@M3hammerdown I can answer that with the words of a Liberal Democrat, also a Christian, & 1 of the greatest presidents in US history, John F Kennedy: "And yet the same revolutionary beliefs for which our forebears fought are still at issue around the globe—the belief that the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state, but from the hand of God."
JFK reminds us that this country was founded on religious freedom, and we owe allegiance to God as well as country.
@Ironman713x How typical you cite religious freedom and owing it to god in the same sentence. That freedom of which you speak is as much freedom FROM religion as it is freedom to choose one. Incidentally, Kennedy was not one of our forefathers.......they did a much better job of describing it than later politicians who went so far as to add it to money and the pledge for political reasons.
@M3hammerdown First, I didn't cite Kennedy as a forefather. How typical you obscure the statement and sentiment with vitriol. This country was founded "Under God." Look back at the founding documents. Remove every document from our archive that references God, or even premises God, & we would still be British subjects. ALL of our founding documents were political, and pay homage to God. Adding him to the pledge just corrected an oversight. Which founding father would take your view?
@Ironman713x Really? Go find "god" in the constitution. Freedom FROM religion isn't impossible. We are way behind most other countries who are approaching 50% atheist/agnostic rates including our close friends in Europe. Human rights are not granted by God, nor are they even recognized consistently across nations or cultures. If God granted them I would expect a little more global consistency. You're confusing concepts of liberty with human rights granted within a religious framework.
Nor is human morality rooted in "God." In fact I find it rather alarming when Christians say they behave according to moral values "because of God". Does that mean, without him you would be a violent moral-less animal? Civilized behavior is learned behavior. You learn to get along with others in community-oriented species or you are dealt with. Do you think a pride of lions hunts, cooperates, and cares for their young together because God taught them morals?
@M3hammerdown Fortunately a growing number of people have also become intolerant of your Christian policies and the promotion of your imaginary friend. Believe what you want. Keep it to yourself and your church. Government has no business endorsing any of it.
@M3hammerdown There will come a time when the answer to all these questions will be given. I propose that you can't find God for the same reason a thief can't find a policeman. You win the argument. Good fortune in all to you and yours. Thank you.
@Ironman713x Educate yourself on the answer to that question. I have spent enough time with you. search "forefathers on religion". I am not allowed to post the links I want you to read.
@M3hammerdown Freedom FROM religion is impossible. For that, you would have to have the right to stifle every practitioner of every religion. The Constitution delineates no such right. In fact, our right to expression and speech may not be abridged by any law created under the Constitution. These rights also extend to people within the government. Believe as you will, God's hand is still the guiding force in our continuing independence.
@Ironman713x Confused again are you? Individuals have freedom from religion and I exercise it. I don't need to stifle what anyone ELSE is doing. As long as it doesn't govern me I don't care if you worship a watermelon. Typical Christian, not enough for you to have the right to believe, you need everyone else to as well.
@M3hammerdown Betty McCollum is free to express her belief, religious or not. She is free to express it in her private as well as in her public responsibility. The other side of that coin is that she, and all of us, do not live in a country where everyone else must respect her opinion, We are as free to speak out, however critical. That right is endowed by God. Religion might have nothing to do with your patriotism, which I do NOT question at all, but God has much to do with mine.
Even religious people are coming to see that "Under God..." was inserted into the Pledge of Allegiance for political propaganda back in the 1950s, not because it belongs there. More and more people are simply leavingthe phrase out in an effort to return to the original Pledge.
America is a proud Secular Government which will never allow the Middle Eastern Abrahamic Extremists and their Religious Theocracy to overthrow our Proud Secular Government which promotes (The Separation of Church from State). Never Under a Middle Eastern Abrahamic God or Under it's Religious Theocracy. Do you know when the Middle Eastern Abrahamic God was added to American's Pledge of Allegiance?
So what nation is America without God, considering it is God and belief in God that made America great? You have to respect your fathers, forefathers and Father in heaven if you want anything.
@corioa that is yet another false belief. This country was founded on the idea that everyone should be free to practice anything they want, including atheism if that be the case. Most forefathers were deists in the sense that they believed in a nonintervening power, not the christian god.
LORD WE BLESS THEE WHO RULES IN ALL THE HEAVENS AND ALL THE EARTH. WHO DETHRONED ALL powers OF DARKNESS AND GAVE ALL MEN THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A NEW REBIRTH. LORD JESUS WE ASK THAT YOU SET FREE ALL THE SOULS TORMENTED AND ENSLAVED OF THE devil. LET THEM EXPERIENCE YOUR PEACE AND JOY UNTO UNLIMITED LEVELS. WIPE AWAY THEIR TEARS LORD JESUS; REMOVE AWAY ALL OF THEIR FEARS. YOU LOVE DEARLY ALL LOST SOULS. WHOM YOU WISH TO TAKE WITH YOU TO GLORY WHEN YOU REAPPEAR.
There are several perfectly acceptable versions of the "pledge" which, itself has been changed numerous times over the years... all without the original author's permission. A visit to wiki on this makes for fascinating reading.
A catholic secularist? Why is this so surprising? My wife is a catholic secularist. You dont have to be an atheist to be a secularist, many thinking theists are secularists.
@mrt0724 why? she is only saying the origionl pledge before some christian pricks changed it to one nation under god. anyway you dont have to say under god in court or to be president.
@PipeManChuck morons like you dont understand the standards set forth by our founders.it clearly says in the Declaration/Constitution that we have GOD GIVEN RIGHTS!this country WAS founded on religious priciples.if you dont believe in God,your choice,but dont act like it wasnt one of the foundations for this country.This MAY NOT be THE foundation for this country but IT WAS a FACTOR.if you dont like it sorry but thats the way it is.i do remember 1950 was when the government added Under God.
“Almost none of the founding fathers were Christian.” Sorry, but false. The majority WERE Christian. 49 were protestant, and 3 were Catholic. That’s a strong majority. Some were not Christian, but had strong, religious beliefs about God.
So yes, people CAN believe whatever they want. This is a free country, and the state shouldn’t force a religion on anyone or endorse one. However, the founders WERE religious, and the majority WERE Christian, and there’s nothing we can do about that.
Please reference for me when the majority of founding fathers publicly denounced Christianity and called it a “cult of blood and virginity.” In fact, you said that Christianity IS a cult of blood and virginity. Please reference in the last fifty years incidences that make this generalization about all of Christianity justified. It’s simple bigotry and prejudice; nothing more, nothing less. If I were to say Atheists were a group of people with no morals or ethics, it would be equally outrageous.
Hmm, well, I wish you would’ve made some sort of an argument instead of just name calling… but I’ll answer anyway.
“You have… neglected to do any research.” False, period.
“Founding Fathers is an ambiguous term.” Teachers, college professors, historians, and lay-people alike use this term to reference those that were a part of the coalition to defeat Britain and those who wrote the constitution. What makes it ambiguous?
The Declaration of Independence references the creator. The founders were mostly Christian. The third verse of The Star Spangled Banner and the third verse of Our Country Tis of Thee reference God.
I understand the point you are trying to make. We can't force our beliefs on others, and this country is made up of many religions and atheists. We can't say we're all Christian. Fair. But this country WAS indeed founded on Christian principles. It may change, but it was what it was.
@BYUCougarFan31 You have obviously neglected to do any research whatsoever on the topic. Almost none of the "founding fathers" (an ambiguous term employed by hysterical bible thumping nutjobs who can't defend their points on merit) were Christian. Any source will point to most of them being vaguely deistic, and often publicly denouncing Christianity for what it is - a cult of blood and virginity.
THERE WAS A HEAVENBOUND SAINT DRESSED LIKE " RAMBO " AND WAS MANNING A MOUNTED MACHINE GUN IN A COMBAT HELICOPTER WITH THE WORDS PAINTED " HEAVENGLORY HELLFIRE " PILOTED BY GOD IN A WARZONE FULL OF demons! SOME demons LOOKED LIKE MEN! SOME demons LOOKED LIKE WOMEN! SOME demons LOOKED LIKE CHILDREN! AND they ALL WERE FLEEING IN EVERY DIRECTION AS " RAMBO " FIRED AT WILL SLAUGHTERING THEM ALL!!! RATATAT TAT TAT TAT TAT TAT TAT TAT! GET SOME! GET SOME! RATA TAT TAT TAT TAT!
THERE WAS A FILTHY DRUNK HELLBOUND PERVERT THAT STAGGERED INTO THE CORNER LIQUOR STORE TO RE-SUPPLY FOR HIS DAILY DRINKING BINGE!!! THE DRUNK PERVERT STUMBLED TO THE COUNTER WHERE HE OBSERVED satan MANAGING THE CASH REGISTER!!! satan IMMEDIATELY SAYS " WHAT WILL IT BE TODAY BUDDY??? WHITE LIGHTNING(Atheism)??? WILD TURKEY(Witchcraft)??? JACK DANIELS(Money)??? WILD IRISH ROSE(Pride)??? AND ETC.!!! " THE DRUNK SIMPLY REPLIES " I'LL TAKE EM ALL AS LONG AS IT IS NOT GOD!!! "
the courts recognize the value of God in america. and it has been the standard for our morality... but when you try and turn things around and make religion into something bad. then the country will decline into immorality. History is in fact a good teacher... and many kingdoms before us didnt have any problem with immorality.
ONE OF THE GREATEST MYTHS EVER FORCED UPON MANKIND BY THE devil IS THE MYTH OF A MAN LIVING HAPPILY EVER AFTER IN satanic UNHOLY MATRIMONY WITH ANOTHER MAN AND A WOMAN LIVING HAPPILY EVER AFTER IN satanic UNHOLY MATRIMONY WITH ANOTHER WOMAN!!!
AND IN ADDITION TO THESE ABOMINABLE ARRANGEMENTS YOU DRAG INNOCENT CHILDREN WITHIN THIS REALM OF PERVERSION TO DESTROY THEM ALONG WITH YOURSELVES!!!
REPENT OF THIS EVIL AND ACCEPT CHRIST BEFORE YOU ARE DESTROYED IN THE LAKE OF FIRE WITH satan!!!
CHANGING FROM ONE RELIGION TO ANOTHER RELIGION IS THE EQUIVALENT OF,
TAKING OFF ONE PAIR OF ROTTEN FUNKY RAGGEDY SNEAKERS FOUND IN A GARBAGE DUMP OFF OF YOUR FEET AND REPLACING THEM WITH ANOTHER PAIR OF ROTTEN FUNKY RAGGEDY SNEAKERS FOUND IN THE SAME GARBAGE DUMP!!!
CHANGING FROM A HELLBOUND PERVERT TO A JUSTIFIED SLIMEY SLUG IS THE EQUIVALENT OF,
1) REPENT OF YOUR SINS
2) BE BAPTIZED IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS
The beauty of the world can,should be and is it's diversity, except it seems when it comes to religion! Every other aspect of existence collects unto itself and simply exists! Why cannot the religions of the world do the same? To do otherwise is to exercise continuous futility, since there will be no answers until the end of this system of things! Live and let live, since you actually have no choice....
@YesWeTan And you dare say what is christian enough to receive these protections? You are an example of tyranny of religion!
"Congress shall make no Law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibit the free exercise thereof;"
What you state would unconstitutionally establish "christianity" as the state religion, and prohibit the free exercise part as well by banning other religions.
Using the pledge as a required statement to execute one's pubic duty violates Article 6 clause 3.
INSTEAD OF GETTING ALL DRESSED UP AND HEADING LONELY AND DEPRESSED TO A GODLESS ALCOHOL INFESTED DRINKING PARTY HELLHOLE FULL OF STRANGERS OR OTHER MISERABLE SHALLOW FOLKS WHERE YOU ONLY GET A HANGOVER OR SOME TIME IN JAIL OR WORSE THIS NEW YEARS EVE,
WHY DON'T YOU INSTEAD GO TO A HOLINESS CHURCH OF THE REDEEMED WHERE NO ONE KNOWS ABOUT YOU EXCEPT GOD, AND WHEN THE PREACHER GIVES THE ALTER CALL FOR PRAYER OR BAPTISM IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST, GO BOLDLY TO THE ALTER AND RECEIVE JESUS!!!
While I know a bunch of RWNJs put this video up, it shows exactly what a great Congressperson should be. Good for Betty - this is but one of many reasons why I've voted for her four times now. Thanks, Betty, for standing up for our Secular Nation, a nation that the founders intended to be Secular.
There is no such thing as God as a religion.....God just IS...."In the beginning, GOD!" Who are you athiests anyway? Where are you from? What rock did you crawl out from under? Just because YOU believe there is no God, keep it to yourselves. Majority rules.Gallop Poll 2003,86% said "Under God" stays and the rest will end up WAAAAAY UNDER GOD! If you can't beat us, join us. You'll be glad you did.
@bytemeNWO If, just if, a religion besides your own became the Majority religion, how would you feel about converting? Since Majority rules, and say Mormonism, Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, or any other version of Christianity that exists out there is held above and superior to yours, how far back in the line will you be to convert? As a Secular American, you think I want to "beat" you - whatever - what I want is for your personal & private religious beliefs to remain personal & private. Simple.
@libsechumanist Hi liberal/secular/humanist..... It's just very frustrating to me that what you believe also is faith based. As educated as the decision you believe you've made, how did you come up with the conclusion that there is no God? It is inconceivable that if you truly have sought out the truth you would know for sure that He does exist. The only thing I can say is that you should really dig deep inside yourself because only you know in your heart why you chose not to believe. :(
@libsechumanist Oh, and another thing. The reason why I care so much and am so verbal about the Truth is that I want everyone to be saved. The only reason why I would imagine that your choice was private is because you aren't trying to save me from the Truth and frankly are embarrassed to say that there is no God because it's not very smart to think that way. I'm sorry but I believe you would defend your father in this manner if someone was telling you he didn't exist. Nonsense.
@bytemeNWO Oh - one more thing. You seem to be under the assumption that Secularist don't know what it is like to be raised in a religion or to have experienced what it is like to live with a religion. Most of us have, and we have made a reasoned, sensible, educated, and private choice for ourselves; your choice is religion, my choice is Secularism. Simple - except you seem to have vitriol towards me for my choice while I don't care that you made your choice for yourself.
@proudrebel: cool, a hat awaits us; hope it fits. ;)
Seriously, I love that she's a catholic and still understands that that phrase has no place in the pledge. She possesses a strong religious belief yet maintains integrity as a representative of her country and its fundamental rules. Some people just don't believe in god and shouldn't be made to act as if they do.
@ijudjud This once great nation was founded on Godly principles. They intended for their 'Christian' nation to be led by believers in God. If someone doesn't want to put Him into our Congress, Senate, White House etc.. then they simply shouldn't run for the position PERIOD.
LMWAO, atheists are so ignorant that it just makes me laugh. Every time I hear them talk about God I just have to laugh at them inside knowing hat awaits them, lol.
@proudrebel69 Yes, because you KNOW what awaits them, right? Why don't you clue the rest of us into your omnipotent knowledge, oh great one?!?
Religious types are worse than any atheist...Atheists dont' regularly bomb churches, (the way some religious nut bombs an abortion clinic) or try to push their views like some bible thumper. I sure don't remember any wars being started over Atheism
But hey, God is one of my favorite imaginary characters, right up there with Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck.
@Visionary3rdEye LMWAO, if ignorance is bliss, you must be one heck of a blissful person. Comparing a House of Worship to a "clinic" of murdering the innocent, lol.
If the Congresswoman doesnt believe in God then why does it matter to her? I would think that the word should mean nothing to her. Maybe she just needs a little attention from the media. My point is that if you have personal beliefs about the existance or non existance of a higher power thats YOUR business! Keep it to yourself
IN HELL A MAN IS RAPED, ABUSED, AND TORTURED IN UNSPEAKABLE WAYS BY GIANT DEMONS CAST DOWN FROM HEAVEN AS FALLEN ANGELS TWENTY FOUR HOURS NONSTOP IN DARKNESS WHILE BEING TOSSED TO AND FRO IN FLAMES!!!
IN HELL A WOMAN IS RAPED, ABUSED, AND TORTURED IN UNSPEAKABLE WAYS BY GIANT DEMONS CAST DOWN FROM HEAVEN AS FALLEN ANGELS TWENTY FOUR HOURS NON-STOP IN DARKNESS WHILE BEING TOSSED TO AND FRO IN FLAMES!!!
To all you WICKED EVILDOERS who are interested in MEETING JESUS there are MEN SENT BY GOD all over this planet. They preach about HOLINESS(GODLY LIVING)(, BEING BAPTIZED IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST(WIPES AWAY YOUR SINS), AND BEING FILLED WITH THE HOLY GHOST. You might find these MEN SENT OF GOD in some of the smallest Churches in your communities. Even if there are only five(5) members there, if THE TRUTH is being preached that is where THE POWER OF GOD will meet you.SEEK AND YOU WILL FIND.
A DISEASED LEPEROUS MAN WENT TO THE LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST AND ASKED " LORD, IF YOU ARE WILLING, CAN YOU HEAL ME OF THIS INCURABLE CONDITION, I HEARD ABOUT YOU?"
THE LORD JESUS REPLIED " I AM WILLING, BE THOU CLEAN "
AND THE LEPEROUS MANS SKIN WAS MADE SMOOTHER THAN A NEWBORN BABY!!!
GOD IS READY AND WILLING WHENEVER EACH ONE OF YOU LEPEROUS HELLBOUND SINNERS MAKE THE DECISION TO COME TO HIM AND BE CLEANSED FROM THE INCURABLE DISEASE OF SIN!!!
ATHEISM IS JUST ONE OF MANY LIES AND IDOLS CONCOCTED BY satan SO WICKED HELLBOUND SINNERS CAN PERFORM THE VILEST OF PERVERSIONS ESPECIALLY HOMOSEXUALITY AND PEDOPHILIA!!!
satan HAS A SHORT TIME TO WREAK HAVOC ON THE EARTH BEFORE he IS DESTROYED!!!
A REPENTANT RABID JUNKYARD DOG HAS A BETTER CHANCE OF MAKING IT INTO THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN THAN AN UNREPENTANT SINNER WHO PRACTICES THE FILTHY ABOMINATION OF HOMOSEXUALITY WHICH IS PURE satanism MANIFESTED!!!
WHEN YOU WICKED EVILDOERS GO INTO YOUR LITTLE DARK ROOMS TO DO YOUR PERVERTED DIRTY LITTLE DEEDS THE GOD OF HEAVEN IS RIGHT THERE SEEING EVERY NASTY FILTHY ACT AS CLEAR AS THE NOONDAY SUN!!!
ON JUDGEMENT DAY THE GOD OF HEAVEN JESUS CHRIST IS GOING TO REPLAY BEFORE YOUR EYES THOSE SECRET EVILS THAT YOU THOUGHT NO ONE KNEW ABOUT LEST YOU REPENT!!!
THEN YOU WILL BE DROPPED DOWN INTO THE UNQUENCHABLE ETERNAL FLAME THAT IS HOTTER THAN THE SURFACE OF THE SUN WITH satan AND his angels FOREVER!!!
@PipeManChuck Itss only been about 60 years since all of that was added. I strongly believe that it is far overdue to be changed as well as a better lesson in history of the nation
SHALLOW HELLBOUND WICKED EVILDOERS FOCUS ALL THEIR ENERGY ON WORTHLESS FLASH AND MEANINGLESS STYLES TO PLEASE OTHER SHALLOW HELLBOUND WICKED EVILDOERS INSTEAD OF SAVING YOURSELVES FROM THE IMPENDING DOOM THAT THE GOD OF HEAVEN JESUS CHRIST ASSURES WILL COME!!!
PLEASING EVIL SINNERS THAT ARE LUSTFILLED PERVERTS WILL LEAD TO YOUR AGONIZING DEATH IN ETERNAL FLAMES!!!
PLEASING THE GOD OF HEAVEN JESUS CHRIST WILL LEAD TO A BLESSED LIFE TO LIFE EVERLASTING!!!
Yea right, You know God like my "A" is green. Your "Jesus" was quite the socialist however and if you really believed you could never vote republican,,,, you must be one of the money changers, right ?
THE SON OF MAN(JESUS CHRIST) WILL SEND OUT HIS(JESUS CHRIST) ANGELS, AND THEY(ANGELS) WILL GATHER OUT OF HIS(JESUS CHRIST) KINGDOM ALL THINGS THAT OFFEND(REJECTERS OF SALVATION), AND THOSE(WICKED EVILDOERS THAT DESPISE CHRIST) WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS, AND WILL CAST THEM INTO THE FURNACE OF FIRE. THERE WILL BE WAILING AND GNASHING OF TEETH. " THEN THE RIGHTEOUS WILL SHINE FORTH AS THE SUN IN THE KINGDOM OF THEIR FATHER(JESUS CHRIST). HE WHO HAS EARS TO HEAR, LET HIM HEAR! (Matthew 13:41-43)
Since the original pledge didn't include the "under God" phrase, Mrs. McCollum would not really be omitting anything at all, if this is even true. The pledge existed for 60+ years before Eisenhower encouraged congress to pass a bill to include the words "under God" as it was somehow believed that this would separate America from the "godless communists". Its inclusion is completely unnecessary for the pledge to have the intended meaning.
And by the way: "I pledge allegiance to my flag and the republic for which it stands: one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all." (original Pledge of Allegiance)
There are tens of millions of Americans who don't believe in the Abrahamic god. I'm sick and tired of idiots telling me I can't be a patriot or a 'true American' unless I'm a Christian. I love my country as much as anyone. I'll defend her when she's right, criticize her when she's in the wrong, and my lack of belief in a deity has NOTHING to do with that.
"when did the word god start to only apply to a Christian god?"
You tell me. The fundamentalist Christians have taken control of the Republican Party in this country, and their demagoguery is largely responsible for the GOP crashing and burning.
I get sick to my stomach every time I hear someone mention god(s). Atheists in the U.S are up too 15% of the population anyways, that's a nice chunk of people to have on your side.
You know, I hope I am up there with my Savior when those ignorant atheists get there just to see the look on their face, lol. Live it up now because you will pay for it when you get there to meet Him, lol.
@proudrebel69 or not...and you would have wasted your entire life following an ignorant cult. If religion is real, I'd still say fuck god, I'd rather burn in hell than spend an eternity with you in heaven.
Even if this was a REAL video, it is not, good for her. The pledge should go back to its original before congress mutilated it. It was originally composed by Francis Bellamy in 1892. So from 1892 to 1954 it was perfectly fine - then politics got in the way. The phrase should also be removed from money and anything that is paid for by tax dollars or is put into existence by our government. Religion has only two places it should exist - at home and at church! NOWHERE ELSE, PERIOD!!!!!
The under God line was added during the McCarthyism era, when cowardly demagogues saw the red peril in every shadow. Innocent people were accused of being Communists or Communist sympathizers. Reputations were lost, lives were ruined.
I'm sure the Founding Fathers were turning over in their graves then, as they are undoubtedly doing again now...
@mynameismatt2010 Are you really this stupid? Most of the founding fathers were at best secularist and at worst deist. Our nation was specifically designed as a non-religious, specifically non-christian, nation and form of government. Ben Franklin said "Lighthouses have more uses than churches". Thomas Jefferson said "The christian god is a being of terrific character - cruel, vindictive, capricious and unjust." These are the people that built this nation - NOT moronic christaholics!!!!
@terryfla Thomas jefferson was in the gross minority. I'm not saying that the founding fathers wanted a christian society, but they wanted a religous one. You say that most wanted a non-religous nation, however that goes against the fundemental purpose of the freemason group, which over 90% of the founding fathers we members. Do research read the constitution. Government can't impose religion, but religion can be active in government. See the establishment clause of the first ammendment.
Even if this was a REAL video, it is not, good for her. The pledge should go back to its original before congress mutilated it. It was originally composed by Francis Bellamy in 1892. So from 1892 to 1954 it was perfectly fine - then politics got in the way. The phrase should also be removed from money and anything that is paid for by tax dollars or is put into existence by our government. Religion has only two places it should exist - at home and at church! NOWHERE ELSE, PERIOD!!!!!
@mynameismatt2010 Yes, the freedom to worship in any religion you choose without the state telling you which religion. The founding fathers wrote the constitution to allow for religous influence in government, but not government influence in religion. If you don't belief me you can read the constitution or do real research on the issue. More than 90% of the founding fathers were freemasons, a group whos purpose is to put a god at the forefront of society.
"traditional values in public policy." ~= supporting separation, and upholding the Constitution, and pluralism...
"UPDATE - for all the people making the argument for separation of Church and State, you are missing the point. McCollum is CATHOLIC and she is omitting GOD." As an atheist quaker I affirm her right as a Catholic to decide on her own about her beliefs, and about the appropriateness of bringing religion into civil discourse..
@AtheistCitizen atheism is ignorance. If this vid is true, than the voters need to 'omit' her att the ballot box, and the group formerly known as ACORN and SEIU needs to stop stuffing the bollot boxes.
Al Franken stole his Minn election this was. more votes than voters.
@wutgodretodd: You mean the bronze fasces- classical Roman symbols of civic authority? FYI:The U.S. adopted the fasces as a symbol of the authority of Congress in part due to their symbolic relationship with Republican Rome, which the founding fathers consciously referenced in the formation of the United States. Also, since fascism wasn't developed until the early 20th Century; your opinion has no basis. You can look all this up on the internet, if you're actually *willing* to learn.
@vitrify Yeah, you're right. By no means at all do they suggest that America is fascist. Of all the symbols ever fashioned in the history of the world (and countless ones nobody has even created yet), America had to put on display fasci, the representative symbol for fascism. Get it? fasci / fascism? You can believe that tripe you posted if you like but Rome did and America does rule their citizens with the same method, threat of violence. Police anyone? lol
"fasci, the representative symbol for fascism." ... Where to begin? First: Fasci did NOT originate from the Fascist movement of the 20th Century. They originated during the Roman Republic (509 BC- 27 BC). Second: The U.S. has used the fasci (as I stated) as representation of civic authority since the founding of this nation. Third: If fasci=fascism; Then the Knights of Columbus, France, British Commonwealth nations, and the Alpha Phi Delta fraternity, among others, are all fascist
Leave out god?, you all suck. Praying and believing have nothing to do with it. Its about being a team player. You would not mangle Abe Lincolns speach because it has a "word" you just dont like. Seems everybody wants their own agenda these days. Everybody wants to be famous.
@TXFireRanger Kind of like congress did when the the phrase was added. Your argument doesn't hold up. For over 60 years the pledge was perfectly fine, then politics got involved and F'd it up as they do with most things in America.
Good for Congresswoman McCollum! I have been doing that for many years. I'm a retired Army officer and I know from personal expense that you can pray from now until the end of time and it will do nothing to stop a bullet.
WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD WANT TO PUT THEIR FAITH AND TRUST IN GODLESS CHRIST HATING CUSSING PERVERTS WITH PHONY SCIENCE BOOKS???
AS SOON AS THEY FINISH PREACHING THEIR FALSE THEORIES TO YOU THEY WILL THEN GO INTO A DARK ROOM TO HAVE ABOMINABLE INTERCOURSE WITH A BEAST AND CALL THEMSELVES gods!!!
PUT YOUR FAITH AND TRUST ONLY IN THE LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST WHO HAS NO DARKNESS IN HIM!!!
So What !!! Vote Republican ? Be slaves to the top 1 tenth of one percent ? Forget about Healthcare ? Privatize schools, fire departments, roads and social security ?
Maybe we should leave God out of this and Vote for what is in our interests
@Stevonatt God IS in your interest. He's in your best interest. Like it or not, believe or not, He's stil there watching over you. Christ has your back. You atheists have it pretty sweet. You don't have to do any of the work or thinking, and He's going to watch out for you anyway. Of course, you'll have some 'splaining to do a little later on, but why worry about that now when you don't have to?
And as for the other part of your rant ... That is what CAPITALISM is. Those who work hard, win.
please explain what "work" or "thinking" it takes to be an adult that still believes in fairy tales?
one day christianity will be looked upon the way we look upon the old days of human sacrifice, leeches to cure illness caused by demons, and the burning of witches at the stake. imagine how much "work or thinking" all that took?
@tiyenin Funny, I don't see you out with checkbook paying the bills for the wars, unemployment, road repairs, rail and airport repairs, et al. When did you buy the USA anyway you pea-brained bigoted idiot.
Good for Ms McCollum. That's the way I learned the pledge in the early cold war era before Congress began hacking away at our rights to keep religion or lack of, out of our public lives.
I just noticed something funny. Did she say, "I pledge lee allegiance" or "I pledge the allegiance"? That's like when kids say, I plejuh leejuns or I pledgle eejunce. Makes you wonder about the point of it. I like to say it myself, I leave out God as well but that's only because it seems rude for me to say it if I don't believe it.
@shaggy2Lance Its interesting to see how the left has tried over the years to change history to marginalize the founders, their belief in God, and their divinely inspired work. The progressives have been so successful in that, that today much of what the progressives have "re-written" as history is actually believed and taught in school. Progressives would have you believe that George Washington was a so-so president who was a bumling, wooden-toothed, chretin, with no faith in God.
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notme98 3 weeks ago
One nation under the flying spaghetti monster.
jackborruel 1 month ago
What does our religion have to do with our patriotism? Such a simple question no Christian can seem to answer.
M3hammerdown 2 months ago
@M3hammerdown I can answer that with the words of a Liberal Democrat, also a Christian, & 1 of the greatest presidents in US history, John F Kennedy: "And yet the same revolutionary beliefs for which our forebears fought are still at issue around the globe—the belief that the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state, but from the hand of God."
JFK reminds us that this country was founded on religious freedom, and we owe allegiance to God as well as country.
Ironman713x 3 weeks ago
@Ironman713x How typical you cite religious freedom and owing it to god in the same sentence. That freedom of which you speak is as much freedom FROM religion as it is freedom to choose one. Incidentally, Kennedy was not one of our forefathers.......they did a much better job of describing it than later politicians who went so far as to add it to money and the pledge for political reasons.
M3hammerdown 3 weeks ago
@M3hammerdown First, I didn't cite Kennedy as a forefather. How typical you obscure the statement and sentiment with vitriol. This country was founded "Under God." Look back at the founding documents. Remove every document from our archive that references God, or even premises God, & we would still be British subjects. ALL of our founding documents were political, and pay homage to God. Adding him to the pledge just corrected an oversight. Which founding father would take your view?
Ironman713x 3 weeks ago
@Ironman713x Really? Go find "god" in the constitution. Freedom FROM religion isn't impossible. We are way behind most other countries who are approaching 50% atheist/agnostic rates including our close friends in Europe. Human rights are not granted by God, nor are they even recognized consistently across nations or cultures. If God granted them I would expect a little more global consistency. You're confusing concepts of liberty with human rights granted within a religious framework.
M3hammerdown 3 weeks ago
Nor is human morality rooted in "God." In fact I find it rather alarming when Christians say they behave according to moral values "because of God". Does that mean, without him you would be a violent moral-less animal? Civilized behavior is learned behavior. You learn to get along with others in community-oriented species or you are dealt with. Do you think a pride of lions hunts, cooperates, and cares for their young together because God taught them morals?
M3hammerdown 3 weeks ago
@M3hammerdown Fortunately a growing number of people have also become intolerant of your Christian policies and the promotion of your imaginary friend. Believe what you want. Keep it to yourself and your church. Government has no business endorsing any of it.
M3hammerdown 3 weeks ago
@M3hammerdown I should keep it to myself and allow you the latitude to express yourself? You win. I will.
Ironman713x 3 weeks ago
@M3hammerdown There will come a time when the answer to all these questions will be given. I propose that you can't find God for the same reason a thief can't find a policeman. You win the argument. Good fortune in all to you and yours. Thank you.
Ironman713x 3 weeks ago
@Ironman713x Educate yourself on the answer to that question. I have spent enough time with you. search "forefathers on religion". I am not allowed to post the links I want you to read.
M3hammerdown 3 weeks ago
@M3hammerdown Freedom FROM religion is impossible. For that, you would have to have the right to stifle every practitioner of every religion. The Constitution delineates no such right. In fact, our right to expression and speech may not be abridged by any law created under the Constitution. These rights also extend to people within the government. Believe as you will, God's hand is still the guiding force in our continuing independence.
Ironman713x 3 weeks ago
@Ironman713x Confused again are you? Individuals have freedom from religion and I exercise it. I don't need to stifle what anyone ELSE is doing. As long as it doesn't govern me I don't care if you worship a watermelon. Typical Christian, not enough for you to have the right to believe, you need everyone else to as well.
M3hammerdown 3 weeks ago
@M3hammerdown Betty McCollum is free to express her belief, religious or not. She is free to express it in her private as well as in her public responsibility. The other side of that coin is that she, and all of us, do not live in a country where everyone else must respect her opinion, We are as free to speak out, however critical. That right is endowed by God. Religion might have nothing to do with your patriotism, which I do NOT question at all, but God has much to do with mine.
Ironman713x 3 weeks ago
Even religious people are coming to see that "Under God..." was inserted into the Pledge of Allegiance for political propaganda back in the 1950s, not because it belongs there. More and more people are simply leavingthe phrase out in an effort to return to the original Pledge.
MrDominex 2 months ago
Good for her! God does not belong there.
nhbiker1961 2 months ago
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America is a proud Secular Government which will never allow the Middle Eastern Abrahamic Extremists and their Religious Theocracy to overthrow our Proud Secular Government which promotes (The Separation of Church from State). Never Under a Middle Eastern Abrahamic God or Under it's Religious Theocracy. Do you know when the Middle Eastern Abrahamic God was added to American's Pledge of Allegiance?
MagicTellaVision 2 months ago
I see she won the election.
n9brb 4 months ago
Good for her!
n9brb 4 months ago
I did that this through school starting in 2nd grade. It didn't seem right to me. I never believed we were under anything.
There was me taking that big breath, and, another kid that for some reason got to sit and watch for religious reasons.
ScaperSteph 4 months ago
AND THATS A REP SMARTEN UP MN
shwy23 5 months ago
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God can kiss my ass!
joealaniz 6 months ago
So what nation is America without God, considering it is God and belief in God that made America great? You have to respect your fathers, forefathers and Father in heaven if you want anything.
corioa 7 months ago
@corioa that is yet another false belief. This country was founded on the idea that everyone should be free to practice anything they want, including atheism if that be the case. Most forefathers were deists in the sense that they believed in a nonintervening power, not the christian god.
M3hammerdown 3 weeks ago
IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST,
LORD WE BLESS THEE WHO RULES IN ALL THE HEAVENS AND ALL THE EARTH. WHO DETHRONED ALL powers OF DARKNESS AND GAVE ALL MEN THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A NEW REBIRTH. LORD JESUS WE ASK THAT YOU SET FREE ALL THE SOULS TORMENTED AND ENSLAVED OF THE devil. LET THEM EXPERIENCE YOUR PEACE AND JOY UNTO UNLIMITED LEVELS. WIPE AWAY THEIR TEARS LORD JESUS; REMOVE AWAY ALL OF THEIR FEARS. YOU LOVE DEARLY ALL LOST SOULS. WHOM YOU WISH TO TAKE WITH YOU TO GLORY WHEN YOU REAPPEAR.
AMEN
ClearingStoneProphet 7 months ago
There are several perfectly acceptable versions of the "pledge" which, itself has been changed numerous times over the years... all without the original author's permission. A visit to wiki on this makes for fascinating reading.
lednew2010 7 months ago
why dont you pledge allegiance to god, or yourself and family...must you pledge to a tyrant government slavemaster that rules over you with guns?
longfootbuddy 8 months ago
Good for her!
shawn199500 8 months ago
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To the Republic For Which It Stands, (One FREE Nation, Above All Gods), With Liberty And Justice For All
MagicTellaVision 8 months ago
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you are a moron
TheMerks1 8 months ago
A catholic secularist? Why is this so surprising? My wife is a catholic secularist. You dont have to be an atheist to be a secularist, many thinking theists are secularists.
linuxpenguin73 8 months ago
I hope some woman beats the shit out of that cunt !
mrt0724 8 months ago
@mrt0724 why? she is only saying the origionl pledge before some christian pricks changed it to one nation under god. anyway you dont have to say under god in court or to be president.
TMeerkat8 8 months ago
get rid of this stinkin anti god woman from our congress!
bamissfa 8 months ago
@PipeManChuck i remember history sir, but question is, do you?
UNCboy4293 9 months ago
@PipeManChuck morons like you dont understand the standards set forth by our founders.it clearly says in the Declaration/Constitution that we have GOD GIVEN RIGHTS!this country WAS founded on religious priciples.if you dont believe in God,your choice,but dont act like it wasnt one of the foundations for this country.This MAY NOT be THE foundation for this country but IT WAS a FACTOR.if you dont like it sorry but thats the way it is.i do remember 1950 was when the government added Under God.
UNCboy4293 9 months ago
And she shouldn't be forced to.
gerbil545 9 months ago
“Almost none of the founding fathers were Christian.” Sorry, but false. The majority WERE Christian. 49 were protestant, and 3 were Catholic. That’s a strong majority. Some were not Christian, but had strong, religious beliefs about God.
So yes, people CAN believe whatever they want. This is a free country, and the state shouldn’t force a religion on anyone or endorse one. However, the founders WERE religious, and the majority WERE Christian, and there’s nothing we can do about that.
BYUCougarFan31 10 months ago
Please reference for me when the majority of founding fathers publicly denounced Christianity and called it a “cult of blood and virginity.” In fact, you said that Christianity IS a cult of blood and virginity. Please reference in the last fifty years incidences that make this generalization about all of Christianity justified. It’s simple bigotry and prejudice; nothing more, nothing less. If I were to say Atheists were a group of people with no morals or ethics, it would be equally outrageous.
BYUCougarFan31 10 months ago
@poolopis01
Hmm, well, I wish you would’ve made some sort of an argument instead of just name calling… but I’ll answer anyway.
“You have… neglected to do any research.” False, period.
“Founding Fathers is an ambiguous term.” Teachers, college professors, historians, and lay-people alike use this term to reference those that were a part of the coalition to defeat Britain and those who wrote the constitution. What makes it ambiguous?
BYUCougarFan31 10 months ago
@ PipeManChuck
The Declaration of Independence references the creator. The founders were mostly Christian. The third verse of The Star Spangled Banner and the third verse of Our Country Tis of Thee reference God.
I understand the point you are trying to make. We can't force our beliefs on others, and this country is made up of many religions and atheists. We can't say we're all Christian. Fair. But this country WAS indeed founded on Christian principles. It may change, but it was what it was.
BYUCougarFan31 10 months ago
@BYUCougarFan31 You have obviously neglected to do any research whatsoever on the topic. Almost none of the "founding fathers" (an ambiguous term employed by hysterical bible thumping nutjobs who can't defend their points on merit) were Christian. Any source will point to most of them being vaguely deistic, and often publicly denouncing Christianity for what it is - a cult of blood and virginity.
poolopis01 10 months ago
ONCE UPON A TIME,
THERE WAS A HEAVENBOUND SAINT DRESSED LIKE " RAMBO " AND WAS MANNING A MOUNTED MACHINE GUN IN A COMBAT HELICOPTER WITH THE WORDS PAINTED " HEAVENGLORY HELLFIRE " PILOTED BY GOD IN A WARZONE FULL OF demons! SOME demons LOOKED LIKE MEN! SOME demons LOOKED LIKE WOMEN! SOME demons LOOKED LIKE CHILDREN! AND they ALL WERE FLEEING IN EVERY DIRECTION AS " RAMBO " FIRED AT WILL SLAUGHTERING THEM ALL!!! RATATAT TAT TAT TAT TAT TAT TAT TAT! GET SOME! GET SOME! RATA TAT TAT TAT TAT!
ClearingStoneProphet 11 months ago
@ClearingStoneProphet
You are an odd one, but you made me laugh, so thank you.
naturada137 11 months ago
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ONCE UPON A TIME,
THERE WAS A FILTHY DRUNK HELLBOUND PERVERT THAT STAGGERED INTO THE CORNER LIQUOR STORE TO RE-SUPPLY FOR HIS DAILY DRINKING BINGE!!! THE DRUNK PERVERT STUMBLED TO THE COUNTER WHERE HE OBSERVED satan MANAGING THE CASH REGISTER!!! satan IMMEDIATELY SAYS " WHAT WILL IT BE TODAY BUDDY??? WHITE LIGHTNING(Atheism)??? WILD TURKEY(Witchcraft)??? JACK DANIELS(Money)??? WILD IRISH ROSE(Pride)??? AND ETC.!!! " THE DRUNK SIMPLY REPLIES " I'LL TAKE EM ALL AS LONG AS IT IS NOT GOD!!! "
ClearingStoneProphet 11 months ago
the courts recognize the value of God in america. and it has been the standard for our morality... but when you try and turn things around and make religion into something bad. then the country will decline into immorality. History is in fact a good teacher... and many kingdoms before us didnt have any problem with immorality.
Gods0n1 11 months ago
She's a damn disgrace and Minnesota should be beyond humiliated.
09Chance 1 year ago
ONE OF THE GREATEST MYTHS EVER FORCED UPON MANKIND BY THE devil IS THE MYTH OF A MAN LIVING HAPPILY EVER AFTER IN satanic UNHOLY MATRIMONY WITH ANOTHER MAN AND A WOMAN LIVING HAPPILY EVER AFTER IN satanic UNHOLY MATRIMONY WITH ANOTHER WOMAN!!!
AND IN ADDITION TO THESE ABOMINABLE ARRANGEMENTS YOU DRAG INNOCENT CHILDREN WITHIN THIS REALM OF PERVERSION TO DESTROY THEM ALONG WITH YOURSELVES!!!
REPENT OF THIS EVIL AND ACCEPT CHRIST BEFORE YOU ARE DESTROYED IN THE LAKE OF FIRE WITH satan!!!
ClearingStoneProphet 1 year ago
CHANGING FROM ONE RELIGION TO ANOTHER RELIGION IS THE EQUIVALENT OF,
TAKING OFF ONE PAIR OF ROTTEN FUNKY RAGGEDY SNEAKERS FOUND IN A GARBAGE DUMP OFF OF YOUR FEET AND REPLACING THEM WITH ANOTHER PAIR OF ROTTEN FUNKY RAGGEDY SNEAKERS FOUND IN THE SAME GARBAGE DUMP!!!
CHANGING FROM A HELLBOUND PERVERT TO A JUSTIFIED SLIMEY SLUG IS THE EQUIVALENT OF,
1) REPENT OF YOUR SINS
2) BE BAPTIZED IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS
3) YOU SHALL RECEIVE THE GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST
ClearingStoneProphet 1 year ago
The beauty of the world can,should be and is it's diversity, except it seems when it comes to religion! Every other aspect of existence collects unto itself and simply exists! Why cannot the religions of the world do the same? To do otherwise is to exercise continuous futility, since there will be no answers until the end of this system of things! Live and let live, since you actually have no choice....
dlamusic 1 year ago
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@YesWeTan And you dare say what is christian enough to receive these protections? You are an example of tyranny of religion!
"Congress shall make no Law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibit the free exercise thereof;"
What you state would unconstitutionally establish "christianity" as the state religion, and prohibit the free exercise part as well by banning other religions.
Using the pledge as a required statement to execute one's pubic duty violates Article 6 clause 3.
Zunile03scape 1 year ago
can it be that she might just dont believe in God ?? and thats why she "skipped" it in respect for those that believe in God ! or am i totaly wrong ?
Hoschi0913 1 year ago
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INSTEAD OF GETTING ALL DRESSED UP AND HEADING LONELY AND DEPRESSED TO A GODLESS ALCOHOL INFESTED DRINKING PARTY HELLHOLE FULL OF STRANGERS OR OTHER MISERABLE SHALLOW FOLKS WHERE YOU ONLY GET A HANGOVER OR SOME TIME IN JAIL OR WORSE THIS NEW YEARS EVE,
WHY DON'T YOU INSTEAD GO TO A HOLINESS CHURCH OF THE REDEEMED WHERE NO ONE KNOWS ABOUT YOU EXCEPT GOD, AND WHEN THE PREACHER GIVES THE ALTER CALL FOR PRAYER OR BAPTISM IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST, GO BOLDLY TO THE ALTER AND RECEIVE JESUS!!!
ClearingStoneProphet 1 year ago
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SANTA CLAUS KNOWS WHO HAS BEEN NAUGHTY OR NICE AND WILL EITHER PUT A PRESENT UNDER YOUR TREE OR A COAL IN YOUR SOCK!!!
JESUS CHRIST KNOWS WHO HAS BEEN NAUGHTY OR NICE AND WILL EITHER ALLOW YOU ENTRANCE INTO HEAVEN OR DROP YOU INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE!!!
ClearingStoneProphet 1 year ago
While I know a bunch of RWNJs put this video up, it shows exactly what a great Congressperson should be. Good for Betty - this is but one of many reasons why I've voted for her four times now. Thanks, Betty, for standing up for our Secular Nation, a nation that the founders intended to be Secular.
libsechumanist 1 year ago 2
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DON'T ACT LIKE A WICKED DEFEATHERED SCRAWNY CHICKEN ON THIS GREAT HOLY DAY AND BLESS A TURKEY!!!
ACT LIKE A REAL MAN ON THIS GREAT HOLY DAY AND BLESS THE MAKER OF ALL TURKEYS THE LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST!!!
ClearingStoneProphet 1 year ago
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GOD IS ALL LOVING!!!
GOD IS A CONSUMING FIRE OF EVERYTHING IMPURE AND UNHOLY!!!
THAT IS WHY HE PREPARED A PLACE FOR ALL TO GO THAT ACCEPTS HIS LOVE AND A PLACE FOR ALL TO GO THAT REJECTS HIS LOVE!!!
WORDS FROM A TRUE CHRISTIAN!!!
ClearingStoneProphet 1 year ago
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GOD HAS GIVEN ALL THE INFORMATION ABOUT HIMSELF AND THEN SOME TO WICKED HELLBOUND SINNERS WEARING LAB COATS HIS LIVING HOLY WORD THE BIBLE!!!
IF THAT ISN'T ENOUGH THEN YOU HAVE RESERVED YOUR SPECIAL PLACE IN THE LAKE OF FIRE!!!
THE devil TEMPTED CHRIST TO THROW HIMSELF OFF THE TOP OF A BUILDING TO PROVE HE WAS THE MESSIAH!!!
YOU HELLBOUND EVILDOERS ARE DEMANDING GOD TO DO THE SAME THING!!!
NOT HAPPENING!!!
ClearingStoneProphet 1 year ago
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ClearingStoneProphet 1 year ago
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ALL GODLESS IGNORAMUS UNIVERSITIES SHOULD BE GUTTED AND TRANSFORMED INTO PETTING ZOOS!!!
ClearingStoneProphet 1 year ago
There is no such thing as God as a religion.....God just IS...."In the beginning, GOD!" Who are you athiests anyway? Where are you from? What rock did you crawl out from under? Just because YOU believe there is no God, keep it to yourselves. Majority rules.Gallop Poll 2003,86% said "Under God" stays and the rest will end up WAAAAAY UNDER GOD! If you can't beat us, join us. You'll be glad you did.
bytemeNWO 1 year ago
@bytemeNWO If, just if, a religion besides your own became the Majority religion, how would you feel about converting? Since Majority rules, and say Mormonism, Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, or any other version of Christianity that exists out there is held above and superior to yours, how far back in the line will you be to convert? As a Secular American, you think I want to "beat" you - whatever - what I want is for your personal & private religious beliefs to remain personal & private. Simple.
libsechumanist 1 year ago 2
@libsechumanist Hi liberal/secular/humanist..... It's just very frustrating to me that what you believe also is faith based. As educated as the decision you believe you've made, how did you come up with the conclusion that there is no God? It is inconceivable that if you truly have sought out the truth you would know for sure that He does exist. The only thing I can say is that you should really dig deep inside yourself because only you know in your heart why you chose not to believe. :(
bytemeNWO 1 year ago
@libsechumanist Oh, and another thing. The reason why I care so much and am so verbal about the Truth is that I want everyone to be saved. The only reason why I would imagine that your choice was private is because you aren't trying to save me from the Truth and frankly are embarrassed to say that there is no God because it's not very smart to think that way. I'm sorry but I believe you would defend your father in this manner if someone was telling you he didn't exist. Nonsense.
bytemeNWO 1 year ago
@bytemeNWO Oh - one more thing. You seem to be under the assumption that Secularist don't know what it is like to be raised in a religion or to have experienced what it is like to live with a religion. Most of us have, and we have made a reasoned, sensible, educated, and private choice for ourselves; your choice is religion, my choice is Secularism. Simple - except you seem to have vitriol towards me for my choice while I don't care that you made your choice for yourself.
libsechumanist 1 year ago
@proudrebel: cool, a hat awaits us; hope it fits. ;)
Seriously, I love that she's a catholic and still understands that that phrase has no place in the pledge. She possesses a strong religious belief yet maintains integrity as a representative of her country and its fundamental rules. Some people just don't believe in god and shouldn't be made to act as if they do.
ijudjud 1 year ago
@ijudjud This once great nation was founded on Godly principles. They intended for their 'Christian' nation to be led by believers in God. If someone doesn't want to put Him into our Congress, Senate, White House etc.. then they simply shouldn't run for the position PERIOD.
proudrebel69 1 year ago
LMWAO, atheists are so ignorant that it just makes me laugh. Every time I hear them talk about God I just have to laugh at them inside knowing hat awaits them, lol.
proudrebel69 1 year ago
@proudrebel69 Yes, because you KNOW what awaits them, right? Why don't you clue the rest of us into your omnipotent knowledge, oh great one?!?
Religious types are worse than any atheist...Atheists dont' regularly bomb churches, (the way some religious nut bombs an abortion clinic) or try to push their views like some bible thumper. I sure don't remember any wars being started over Atheism
But hey, God is one of my favorite imaginary characters, right up there with Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck.
Visionary3rdEye 1 year ago
@Visionary3rdEye LMWAO, if ignorance is bliss, you must be one heck of a blissful person. Comparing a House of Worship to a "clinic" of murdering the innocent, lol.
proudrebel69 1 year ago
you forgot UNDER GOD!..you elitist atheist occult loving cunt!
prguy787 1 year ago
If the Congresswoman doesnt believe in God then why does it matter to her? I would think that the word should mean nothing to her. Maybe she just needs a little attention from the media. My point is that if you have personal beliefs about the existance or non existance of a higher power thats YOUR business! Keep it to yourself
SPAD58 1 year ago
OBSERVE AND CONTEMPLATE!!!
IN HELL A MAN IS RAPED, ABUSED, AND TORTURED IN UNSPEAKABLE WAYS BY GIANT DEMONS CAST DOWN FROM HEAVEN AS FALLEN ANGELS TWENTY FOUR HOURS NONSTOP IN DARKNESS WHILE BEING TOSSED TO AND FRO IN FLAMES!!!
IN HELL A WOMAN IS RAPED, ABUSED, AND TORTURED IN UNSPEAKABLE WAYS BY GIANT DEMONS CAST DOWN FROM HEAVEN AS FALLEN ANGELS TWENTY FOUR HOURS NON-STOP IN DARKNESS WHILE BEING TOSSED TO AND FRO IN FLAMES!!!
GOD DID NOT PREPARE THAT PLACE FOR MEN TO GO!!!
ClearingStoneProphet 1 year ago
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To all you WICKED EVILDOERS who are interested in MEETING JESUS there are MEN SENT BY GOD all over this planet. They preach about HOLINESS(GODLY LIVING)(, BEING BAPTIZED IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST(WIPES AWAY YOUR SINS), AND BEING FILLED WITH THE HOLY GHOST. You might find these MEN SENT OF GOD in some of the smallest Churches in your communities. Even if there are only five(5) members there, if THE TRUTH is being preached that is where THE POWER OF GOD will meet you.SEEK AND YOU WILL FIND.
ClearingStoneProphet 1 year ago
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THE GOD OF HEAVEN JESUS CHRIST ETERNAL PENALTY AGAINST SIN(ANYTHING GOD SAYS IS EVIL) WILL ALWAYS BE AND STILL IS DEATH!!!
THE GOD OF HEAVEN JESUS CHRIST ETERNAL GIFT TO MANKIND FOR FAITH IN HIM WILL ALWAYS BE AND STILL IS ETERNAL LIFE!!!
THE LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST IS NOT LIKE WICKED SINFUL MAN THAT HE SHOULD LIE!!!
ClearingStoneProphet 1 year ago
Under God!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
motima3 1 year ago
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A DISEASED LEPEROUS MAN WENT TO THE LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST AND ASKED " LORD, IF YOU ARE WILLING, CAN YOU HEAL ME OF THIS INCURABLE CONDITION, I HEARD ABOUT YOU?"
THE LORD JESUS REPLIED " I AM WILLING, BE THOU CLEAN "
AND THE LEPEROUS MANS SKIN WAS MADE SMOOTHER THAN A NEWBORN BABY!!!
GOD IS READY AND WILLING WHENEVER EACH ONE OF YOU LEPEROUS HELLBOUND SINNERS MAKE THE DECISION TO COME TO HIM AND BE CLEANSED FROM THE INCURABLE DISEASE OF SIN!!!
ClearingStoneProphet 1 year ago
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I CANNOT SEE THE GOD OF HEAVEN JESUS CHRIST!!!
I CANNOT HEAR THE GOD OF HEAVEN JESUS CHRIST!!!
I CANNOT TOUCH THE GOD OF HEAVEN JESUS CHRIST!!!
I CANNOT SMELL THE GOD OF HEAVEN JESUS CHRIST!!!
I CANNOT TASTE THE GOD OF HEAVEN JESUS CHRIST!!!
THEREFORE I DON'T BELIEVE IN THE GOD OF HEAVEN JESUS CHRIST!!!
NOW EVERYBODY DO WHATEVER SEEMS RIGHT TO YOU BEFORE YOU DIE BECAUSE ALL THAT MATTERS IS WHAT SINBLINDED MEN SAYS IS REAL!!!
ClearingStoneProphet 1 year ago
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ATHEISM IS JUST ONE OF MANY LIES AND IDOLS CONCOCTED BY satan SO WICKED HELLBOUND SINNERS CAN PERFORM THE VILEST OF PERVERSIONS ESPECIALLY HOMOSEXUALITY AND PEDOPHILIA!!!
satan HAS A SHORT TIME TO WREAK HAVOC ON THE EARTH BEFORE he IS DESTROYED!!!
ClearingStoneProphet 1 year ago
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A REPENTANT RABID JUNKYARD DOG HAS A BETTER CHANCE OF MAKING IT INTO THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN THAN AN UNREPENTANT SINNER WHO PRACTICES THE FILTHY ABOMINATION OF HOMOSEXUALITY WHICH IS PURE satanism MANIFESTED!!!
ClearingStoneProphet 1 year ago
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THE GOD OF HEAVEN JESUS CHRIST HAS NOTHING BUT EVERLASTING LOVE TO GRANT TO ALL THOSE WHO PUT THEIR FAITH AND TRUST IN HIS WORD!!!
THE GOD OF HEAVEN JESUS CHRIST HAS NOTHING BUT EVERLASTING LOVE TO GRANT TO THOSE THAT DESPISE AND HAVE UTTER CONTEMPT FOR HIS WORD!!!
HEAVEN FOR THE FAITHFUL!!!
HELL FOR THE DESPICABLE!!!
ClearingStoneProphet 1 year ago
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All religion is evil.
wutgodretodd 1 year ago
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WHEN YOU WICKED EVILDOERS GO INTO YOUR LITTLE DARK ROOMS TO DO YOUR PERVERTED DIRTY LITTLE DEEDS THE GOD OF HEAVEN IS RIGHT THERE SEEING EVERY NASTY FILTHY ACT AS CLEAR AS THE NOONDAY SUN!!!
ON JUDGEMENT DAY THE GOD OF HEAVEN JESUS CHRIST IS GOING TO REPLAY BEFORE YOUR EYES THOSE SECRET EVILS THAT YOU THOUGHT NO ONE KNEW ABOUT LEST YOU REPENT!!!
THEN YOU WILL BE DROPPED DOWN INTO THE UNQUENCHABLE ETERNAL FLAME THAT IS HOTTER THAN THE SURFACE OF THE SUN WITH satan AND his angels FOREVER!!!
ClearingStoneProphet 1 year ago
Looks to me like Atheist Citizen is in need of a life. Glad you got your early "Xmas" present, and I'm glad that I don't live in your state.
openroad88 1 year ago
@leonarddaccardi a pause of conscience is a "petty agenda"? get a little perspective.
AtheistCitizen 1 year ago
@themoon73 a reelected "piece of shit anti-American communist twat" TO YOU.
AtheistCitizen 1 year ago
Nice to see that she won re-election
AtheistCitizen 1 year ago
Your all a bunch of sickos on your way to the Fema gas camps (where Godless citizens in Godless countries end up.Look up "fema camps for americans"
minchingpennys 1 year ago
@minchingpennys don't look now but the men in black are following you.. [paranoid simpleton that you are]
AtheistCitizen 1 year ago
@PipeManChuck Itss only been about 60 years since all of that was added. I strongly believe that it is far overdue to be changed as well as a better lesson in history of the nation
ichleibemeinenvr6 1 year ago
SHALLOW HELLBOUND WICKED EVILDOERS FOCUS ALL THEIR ENERGY ON WORTHLESS FLASH AND MEANINGLESS STYLES TO PLEASE OTHER SHALLOW HELLBOUND WICKED EVILDOERS INSTEAD OF SAVING YOURSELVES FROM THE IMPENDING DOOM THAT THE GOD OF HEAVEN JESUS CHRIST ASSURES WILL COME!!!
PLEASING EVIL SINNERS THAT ARE LUSTFILLED PERVERTS WILL LEAD TO YOUR AGONIZING DEATH IN ETERNAL FLAMES!!!
PLEASING THE GOD OF HEAVEN JESUS CHRIST WILL LEAD TO A BLESSED LIFE TO LIFE EVERLASTING!!!
ClearingStoneProphet 1 year ago
Yea right, You know God like my "A" is green. Your "Jesus" was quite the socialist however and if you really believed you could never vote republican,,,, you must be one of the money changers, right ?
Stevonatt 1 year ago
you know, i think i think it should be "over god" instead of "under god"
PhazonShroom 1 year ago
Rock on Betty!
schobd 1 year ago
Good for her!
BrooklynRagtag 1 year ago
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THE SON OF MAN(JESUS CHRIST) WILL SEND OUT HIS(JESUS CHRIST) ANGELS, AND THEY(ANGELS) WILL GATHER OUT OF HIS(JESUS CHRIST) KINGDOM ALL THINGS THAT OFFEND(REJECTERS OF SALVATION), AND THOSE(WICKED EVILDOERS THAT DESPISE CHRIST) WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS, AND WILL CAST THEM INTO THE FURNACE OF FIRE. THERE WILL BE WAILING AND GNASHING OF TEETH. " THEN THE RIGHTEOUS WILL SHINE FORTH AS THE SUN IN THE KINGDOM OF THEIR FATHER(JESUS CHRIST). HE WHO HAS EARS TO HEAR, LET HIM HEAR! (Matthew 13:41-43)
ClearingStoneProphet 1 year ago
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Since the original pledge didn't include the "under God" phrase, Mrs. McCollum would not really be omitting anything at all, if this is even true. The pledge existed for 60+ years before Eisenhower encouraged congress to pass a bill to include the words "under God" as it was somehow believed that this would separate America from the "godless communists". Its inclusion is completely unnecessary for the pledge to have the intended meaning.
farewellsyndicate 1 year ago
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farewellsyndicate 1 year ago
@mynameismatt2010 The founding fathers attempted to build this country on religious FREEDOM. Guess you're proof they failed.
DarkCoughDrop 1 year ago
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And by the way: "I pledge allegiance to my flag and the republic for which it stands: one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all." (original Pledge of Allegiance)
vitrify 1 year ago
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vitrify 1 year ago
Really - who gives a damn?
There are tens of millions of Americans who don't believe in the Abrahamic god. I'm sick and tired of idiots telling me I can't be a patriot or a 'true American' unless I'm a Christian. I love my country as much as anyone. I'll defend her when she's right, criticize her when she's in the wrong, and my lack of belief in a deity has NOTHING to do with that.
bushputz 1 year ago 3
@bushputz Excuse me, when did the word god start to only apply to a Christian god?
mynameismatt2010 1 year ago
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@mynameismatt2010
"when did the word god start to only apply to a Christian god?"
You tell me. The fundamentalist Christians have taken control of the Republican Party in this country, and their demagoguery is largely responsible for the GOP crashing and burning.
bushputz 1 year ago
@mynameismatt2010 When they usurped it from all other civilizations.
terryfla 1 year ago
I get sick to my stomach every time I hear someone mention god(s). Atheists in the U.S are up too 15% of the population anyways, that's a nice chunk of people to have on your side.
deaftone311 1 year ago
@deaftone311 Needs to be higher, I think I read somewhere that the UK has somewhere around a 40% atheist population.
DarkCoughDrop 1 year ago
Wow - a supreme example of being a complete loser.
cbale07 1 year ago
I just paypaled her opponent 25 bucks.
mccommas2 1 year ago
You know, I hope I am up there with my Savior when those ignorant atheists get there just to see the look on their face, lol. Live it up now because you will pay for it when you get there to meet Him, lol.
proudrebel69 1 year ago
@proudrebel69
I'd rather rather be in hell then in heaven with you.
Oh, btw, I'm a stone-cold Atheist and I have one of the highest GPA's in my school.
villanonickXgmail 1 year ago
@proudrebel69 or not...and you would have wasted your entire life following an ignorant cult. If religion is real, I'd still say fuck god, I'd rather burn in hell than spend an eternity with you in heaven.
holydiver3210 1 year ago
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@proudrebel69
your idle threats are of no use here...they are one of the reasons we do not believe in your chosen 'god' anyway.
flashoftruth 1 year ago
I sure hope Teresa C. gets the election by a landslide. This once great Christian nation is going to hell in a handbasket, literally.
proudrebel69 1 year ago
@proudrebel69
when exactly was this a "great christian nation"? and it couldn't be any worse today than say...during the witch hunts.
forgive some of us if we DON'T go back to sleep...
flashoftruth 1 year ago
Even if this was a REAL video, it is not, good for her. The pledge should go back to its original before congress mutilated it. It was originally composed by Francis Bellamy in 1892. So from 1892 to 1954 it was perfectly fine - then politics got in the way. The phrase should also be removed from money and anything that is paid for by tax dollars or is put into existence by our government. Religion has only two places it should exist - at home and at church! NOWHERE ELSE, PERIOD!!!!!
terryfla 1 year ago
@terryfla
The under God line was added during the McCarthyism era, when cowardly demagogues saw the red peril in every shadow. Innocent people were accused of being Communists or Communist sympathizers. Reputations were lost, lives were ruined.
I'm sure the Founding Fathers were turning over in their graves then, as they are undoubtedly doing again now...
bushputz 1 year ago
@bushputz The founding fathers build this nation on a religous backbone, see the first ammendment.
mynameismatt2010 1 year ago
@mynameismatt2010 Are you really this stupid? Most of the founding fathers were at best secularist and at worst deist. Our nation was specifically designed as a non-religious, specifically non-christian, nation and form of government. Ben Franklin said "Lighthouses have more uses than churches". Thomas Jefferson said "The christian god is a being of terrific character - cruel, vindictive, capricious and unjust." These are the people that built this nation - NOT moronic christaholics!!!!
terryfla 1 year ago
@terryfla Thomas jefferson was in the gross minority. I'm not saying that the founding fathers wanted a christian society, but they wanted a religous one. You say that most wanted a non-religous nation, however that goes against the fundemental purpose of the freemason group, which over 90% of the founding fathers we members. Do research read the constitution. Government can't impose religion, but religion can be active in government. See the establishment clause of the first ammendment.
mynameismatt2010 1 year ago
Even if this was a REAL video, it is not, good for her. The pledge should go back to its original before congress mutilated it. It was originally composed by Francis Bellamy in 1892. So from 1892 to 1954 it was perfectly fine - then politics got in the way. The phrase should also be removed from money and anything that is paid for by tax dollars or is put into existence by our government. Religion has only two places it should exist - at home and at church! NOWHERE ELSE, PERIOD!!!!!
terryfla 1 year ago 9
warning: idiots incoming.
Feared01 1 year ago
@terryfla The Pledge is for the Socialist Youth not for Americans.
Robbob9933 1 year ago
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ClearingStoneProphet 11 months ago
@mynameismatt2010
"The founding fathers build this nation on a religous backbone, see the first ammendment."
No, they believed not only in freedom OF religion, but also freedom FROM religion.
Please see the U.S. Constitution Article VI, paragraph 3.
"...no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."
bushputz 1 year ago 4
@mynameismatt2010 Yes, the freedom to worship in any religion you choose without the state telling you which religion. The founding fathers wrote the constitution to allow for religous influence in government, but not government influence in religion. If you don't belief me you can read the constitution or do real research on the issue. More than 90% of the founding fathers were freemasons, a group whos purpose is to put a god at the forefront of society.
mynameismatt2010 1 year ago
"traditional values in public policy." ~= supporting separation, and upholding the Constitution, and pluralism...
"UPDATE - for all the people making the argument for separation of Church and State, you are missing the point. McCollum is CATHOLIC and she is omitting GOD." As an atheist quaker I affirm her right as a Catholic to decide on her own about her beliefs, and about the appropriateness of bringing religion into civil discourse..
AtheistCitizen 1 year ago
@AtheistCitizen atheism is ignorance. If this vid is true, than the voters need to 'omit' her att the ballot box, and the group formerly known as ACORN and SEIU needs to stop stuffing the bollot boxes.
Al Franken stole his Minn election this was. more votes than voters.
TAXtheAtheist 1 year ago
@TAXtheAtheist
"atheism is ignorance."
yes, and this is truly credible coming from someone who believes in talking snakes and invisible men in the sky.
how's that steak?
flashoftruth 1 year ago
@TAXtheAtheist LOL & I pay taxes & vote.
AtheistCitizen 1 year ago
@TAXtheAtheist You are a complete idiot! You're the one who believes in the invisible, mythical sky god and we are the ignorant ones, yeah, right!!!
When you understand why you reject all other possible gods then you will understand why I reject yours.
terryfla 1 year ago
good luck Betty!
AtheistCitizen 1 year ago
Can any of you believers please explain to me how an eternal soul develops from the joining of a sperm and an egg?
Oh, you can't? I didn't think so. lolz
wutgodretodd 1 year ago
@wutgodretodd God puts it there. Duh.
5061304072 1 year ago
@5061304072 I can't tell. Is this sarcasm? lol
wutgodretodd 1 year ago
Everyone notice the two huge fasci (the symbol for fascism) on the wall behind the speakers?
America has always been and is currently a fascist nation. lolz? :/
wutgodretodd 1 year ago
@wutgodretodd: You mean the bronze fasces- classical Roman symbols of civic authority? FYI:The U.S. adopted the fasces as a symbol of the authority of Congress in part due to their symbolic relationship with Republican Rome, which the founding fathers consciously referenced in the formation of the United States. Also, since fascism wasn't developed until the early 20th Century; your opinion has no basis. You can look all this up on the internet, if you're actually *willing* to learn.
vitrify 1 year ago
@vitrify Yeah, you're right. By no means at all do they suggest that America is fascist. Of all the symbols ever fashioned in the history of the world (and countless ones nobody has even created yet), America had to put on display fasci, the representative symbol for fascism. Get it? fasci / fascism? You can believe that tripe you posted if you like but Rome did and America does rule their citizens with the same method, threat of violence. Police anyone? lol
wutgodretodd 1 year ago
@wutgodretodd
"fasci, the representative symbol for fascism." ... Where to begin? First: Fasci did NOT originate from the Fascist movement of the 20th Century. They originated during the Roman Republic (509 BC- 27 BC). Second: The U.S. has used the fasci (as I stated) as representation of civic authority since the founding of this nation. Third: If fasci=fascism; Then the Knights of Columbus, France, British Commonwealth nations, and the Alpha Phi Delta fraternity, among others, are all fascist
vitrify 1 year ago
Leave out god?, you all suck. Praying and believing have nothing to do with it. Its about being a team player. You would not mangle Abe Lincolns speach because it has a "word" you just dont like. Seems everybody wants their own agenda these days. Everybody wants to be famous.
TXFireRanger 1 year ago
@TXFireRanger Kind of like congress did when the the phrase was added. Your argument doesn't hold up. For over 60 years the pledge was perfectly fine, then politics got involved and F'd it up as they do with most things in America.
terryfla 1 year ago
Good for Congresswoman McCollum! I have been doing that for many years. I'm a retired Army officer and I know from personal expense that you can pray from now until the end of time and it will do nothing to stop a bullet.
paulc1939 1 year ago 11
@paulc1939 Well Agreed sir. Hooah! I too have been omitting it for many years
ichleibemeinenvr6 1 year ago
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WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD WANT TO PUT THEIR FAITH AND TRUST IN GODLESS CHRIST HATING CUSSING PERVERTS WITH PHONY SCIENCE BOOKS???
AS SOON AS THEY FINISH PREACHING THEIR FALSE THEORIES TO YOU THEY WILL THEN GO INTO A DARK ROOM TO HAVE ABOMINABLE INTERCOURSE WITH A BEAST AND CALL THEMSELVES gods!!!
PUT YOUR FAITH AND TRUST ONLY IN THE LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST WHO HAS NO DARKNESS IN HIM!!!
ClearingStoneProphet 1 year ago
@ClearingStoneProphet
ALL CAPS MAKE YOU LOOK EVEN MORE STUPID
And all hail Lord Satan
maxine2win 1 year ago
So What !!! Vote Republican ? Be slaves to the top 1 tenth of one percent ? Forget about Healthcare ? Privatize schools, fire departments, roads and social security ?
Maybe we should leave God out of this and Vote for what is in our interests
Stevonatt 1 year ago
@Stevonatt God IS in your interest. He's in your best interest. Like it or not, believe or not, He's stil there watching over you. Christ has your back. You atheists have it pretty sweet. You don't have to do any of the work or thinking, and He's going to watch out for you anyway. Of course, you'll have some 'splaining to do a little later on, but why worry about that now when you don't have to?
And as for the other part of your rant ... That is what CAPITALISM is. Those who work hard, win.
5061304072 1 year ago
@5061304072
please explain what "work" or "thinking" it takes to be an adult that still believes in fairy tales?
one day christianity will be looked upon the way we look upon the old days of human sacrifice, leeches to cure illness caused by demons, and the burning of witches at the stake. imagine how much "work or thinking" all that took?
flashoftruth 1 year ago
If your congresswoman was a polytheist, would you be mad if she omitted "one nation, under GODS" from the pledge? No, you wouldn't.
Separation of Church and State, nigga.
tiyenin 1 year ago 6
@tiyenin your point would be taken more seriously if you left the word "nigga" out of it. kind of immature, don't you think?
lunarelf 1 year ago
@lunarelf Duly noted, nigga. Now get out of my country.
tiyenin 1 year ago
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@tiyenin once again, you proved my point.
lunarelf 1 year ago
@tiyenin Funny, I don't see you out with checkbook paying the bills for the wars, unemployment, road repairs, rail and airport repairs, et al. When did you buy the USA anyway you pea-brained bigoted idiot.
terryfla 1 year ago
@terryfla Trolling ftw
tiyenin 1 year ago
Me too. I leave out the under god. Good for her. The Pledge is a public display of patriotism and religion has nothing to do with it.
dkw12002 1 year ago
@dkw12002 Precisely
ichleibemeinenvr6 1 year ago
Good for Ms McCollum. That's the way I learned the pledge in the early cold war era before Congress began hacking away at our rights to keep religion or lack of, out of our public lives.
peculiarman 1 year ago 2
good for her
Nibielari 1 year ago
I just noticed something funny. Did she say, "I pledge lee allegiance" or "I pledge the allegiance"? That's like when kids say, I plejuh leejuns or I pledgle eejunce. Makes you wonder about the point of it. I like to say it myself, I leave out God as well but that's only because it seems rude for me to say it if I don't believe it.
jcisbell 1 year ago
Left wing numb nuts!
shaggy2Lance 1 year ago
@shaggy2Lance Its interesting to see how the left has tried over the years to change history to marginalize the founders, their belief in God, and their divinely inspired work. The progressives have been so successful in that, that today much of what the progressives have "re-written" as history is actually believed and taught in school. Progressives would have you believe that George Washington was a so-so president who was a bumling, wooden-toothed, chretin, with no faith in God.
5061304072 1 year ago