Earth Story Episode 2 The Deep (BBC)

[drav1dan]

33:40 Why does this lady have a moustache as you can see at 33:49?

[AscendingParadigm]

The universe must be abundant with life. I wish we could experience lifeforms with brain capacities greater than ours.

[2eelShmeal]

@AscendingParadigm Think how much other life forms would love to see our planet...

[drav1dan]

@AscendingParadigm: Humans are a lifeform with a brain capacity greater than the chicken or the cow. Guess who is the predator & who is the prey. Greater brain capacity does not mean spiritual improvement. If you still want to meet lifeforms with brain capacities greater than ours then all you have to do is go to any Kentucky Fried Human restaurant on the planet Plethgonn, where you will be main course.

[AscendingParadigm]

@drav1dan You're making a false correlation between brain capacity and the food chain. Predator-prey relationships are not contingent on brain capacity; if they were, we'd have Cape Buffalo eating Lions and wouldn't have brainless parasites eating us. You're also assuming that a lifeform with a greater brain capacity than ours will be omnivorous, at least. This lifeform could be an herbivore, posing no predatory threat.

[drav1dan]

@AscendingParadigm: My point was that if the aliens are smarter than us then they are likely to regard us merely as food, just as we regard the cow & the chicken or even dolphins & monkeys (or even chimps - yes they used to eat chimps in some parts of Africa). The aliens will not be oh so nurturing & kind & helpful & what not towards us as a lot of people like to believe naively.

[AscendingParadigm]

@drav1dan I understand what your point is... and addressed it. You're assuming the smarter aliens would be carnivores, or at least omnivores. You're assuming they will be predatory towards us, because we are predatory towards lessors on our food chain. But the food chain relationship depends on the diets of those in it, not the brain capacities. The smarter aliens could be strictly vegetarian, posing no predatory threat to us. It is a possibility we'd be prey, but there's no reason to assume so.

[drav1dan]

@AscendingParadigm: The assumptions u make are baseless. Larger brain does not imply higher morals or vegetarianism- most Nobel Prize winners eat meat; nukes were invented by very smart people. If aliens do not like to eat us, they may use us as slave labor (just as we use horses,camels etc even other humans). It is naive to think of aliens as benevolent saviors.They will have the same effect on us as the Europeans on the natives in Americas, Australia & Africa 200 years ago.

[AscendingParadigm]

@drav1dan I have not made any assumptions. I'm only considering all possibilities, which is what all speculation should be. Aliens could treat us as slaves... or they could ignore us... or they could eat us. There's no reason to assume either. To treat us as slaves, you're assuming they would have use for slave labor... there is no reason to start with that assumption since you know nothing about their nature. We know nothing about them, so all we can do is speculate on potential possibilities.

[drav1dan]

@AscendingParadigm: The possibility that aliens who are smarter than us will see us as either prey or slaves is very much greater than any other. Even Stephen Hawking said so. We must not repeat the blunders the native people of North & South America made when Europeans first landed.

[0952031ify]

@AscendingParadigm I think encountering lifeforms with brain capacities greater than homo sapiens will bring doom to ourself. We are intelligent ,but extremely violent creatures. That is why we survive. We attack before we think. We often settle quarrels by force. Why wouldn't other planet's dominant species so different from us? One trivial misunderstanding occur and wars are inevitable.

[AscendingParadigm]

@0952031ify That is one possibility. Another may be that our relationship to the aliens is that of a fox to an elephant. The elephant has a greater brain capacity to the fox, but doesn't really pose a threat to the fox. They have different natures and non conflicting agendas, although the elephant could smash the fox if so desired.

[0952031ify]

@AscendingParadigm Your point of view is absolutely correct, but using elephant vs. fox as analogy for human vs. aliens isn't quite appropriate. The best and simplest explanation would lie on the fact that humans have sophisticated thoughts. Animals do think, but not as complex as humans do. They may be capable of proposing strategies to hunt preys efficiently. Still, they are not intelligent enough to create prosperous civilization like us. After all, they know nothing but eat, sleep, survive.

[0952031ify]

@AscendingParadigm But we don't just eat, sleep, and survive. We are treacherous creatures. We do everything with intentions. Proof? Every war humans have fought. If aliens approach us, wouldn't it be reasonable to suspect that they have their intentions too? Even more absurd, we can't even tolerate other humans with different skin colors. How dare we propose such a fallacy that we can tolerate aliens? If humans really encounter aliens, the hypocritical peace probably would

[0952031ify]

@AscendingParadigm sustain mostly by benefits. Once we are no use to the others, the outbreak of wars is at any moment.

[kryo101]

fantastic series, i'm really happy this channel is back.

thank you uploader..

[dumbnetworks]

nice show

[Aanthanur]

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[bigboy45454545]

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