"Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms." -- James Madison
enn, 26, of 933 Meadow Oak Drive, Apt. 108 , was charged with misdemeanor counts of possession of a firearm at a parade or demonstration, failing to store a firearm to protect a minor, and resisting a public officer. The charges stem from an investigation that began Oct. 17..
Court records also indicate Penn is of “high interest to the FBI because of his alignment with violent demonstrators at abortion clinics.”He turned himself in for questioning and was later arrested.
@tboren5115 A man charged with possessing a handgun outside of a Greensboro abortion clinic last fall was found not guilty last week in Guilford County court.
Penn, 27, was found not guilty July 6 on a charge of possession of a firearm outside of a parade or demonstration.
The court also dismissed two other charges against him regarding failing to secure a firearm to protect a minor and resisting a public officer.
@jrpj1983 that is also true but whats the point in acting like an ass to prove you are right. you have to understand his side that not everybody that has a gun is a nice guy you could have easily shot him at multiple points in that conversation. if you walked u[ on someone that had a gun and was video taping you it would make you nervous as well. i have a permit here is memphis and i carry everyday mostly concealed. even when i do carry open ive always given my I.D. and never had a problem.
@tboren5115 I don't think I acted like an "ass" to prove I was right. You have to understand my side that not every cop that has a gun is a nice guy. He could have easily shot me at multiple points in that conversation. That was more likely as he grabbed his weapon and I never reached for mine.
I never broke the law, screamed, yelled acted threatening, or reached for my weapon.
I think general perception leads people to that conclusion if they ever see anyone challenge authority. People quickly draw a conclusion before thoroughly evaluating if that authority should have been challenged.
@jrpj1983 that is also true but whats the point in acting like an ass to prove you are right. you have to understand his side that not everybody that has a gun is a nice guy you could have easily shot him at multiple points in that conversation. if you walked up on someone that had a gun and was video taping you it would make you nervous as well. i have a permit here is memphis and i carry everyday mostly concealed. even when i do carry open ive always given my I.D. and never had a problem.
1. It is not illegal to record in a public place, 2. It is not illegal to open carry, 3. A cop can not request your ID if there is not probable cause you are or are about to commit a crime, however when you walk up to a police officer with a gun and a camera while he is doing his job and it is a distraction(which this clearly was), that is called OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE and is illegal.
@NazurithStyne wow...the cop never said obstruction, he said trespassing. It is NOT illegal to observe/record from a reasonable distance; the interaction was with two men and was not physical so the 10-15 foot distance I kept was reasonable.
If I was to close, why would he not say something like "keep your distance"??? That never seemed to be the issue. HOWEVER before I was within 30 feet, I was told to "put the phone up". Which sounds like their concern: the phone or obstruction?
If the officer was "distracted" by a citizen acting within all of his Rights, to the point of that distraction reaching "OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE", that officer needs more training or to find another type of work.
Every time I see this video I'm so filled with pride, because we DO have well informed patriotic citizens like jrpj1983 willing to live among those of us that don't have 1% of his courage, patriotism & strength of conviction.
@Atlbraves28 It would pose danger and it's beyond me how you can't understand that. Drawing your weapon on a armed citizen poses no danger??? How do you come to that conclusion?
@jrpj1983 If you're not a bad guy, which obviously you weren't, then there would be no danger. However, if you were a bad guy and felt the need to use your gun on the officer, for whatever reason it may be, then it is in his best interest to be protected. Especially because you were clearly backing away from him.
@Atlbraves28 you are mistaken. You do not have to show ID in NC. I'm not even required to have ID so how can I e required to show ID. I didn't even have my ID on me. You are required to identify yourself if asked but he never asked.
All I would have had to say was name and residence NOT show ID.
If you hold loyalty to your badge thanks for being one of the few, though I doubt that based off of your other comment.
I want to go home to my family too and he posed more threat than a thug.
The NC State law states clearly that you are allowed to own a gun rifle, shotgun, or handgun if you are 18 years of age, a permit is required for concealed carry. For open carry there is no state law in North Carolina. I can back up my comments with the official website on NC gun laws.
Good for you for asserting your legal rights as a law abiding citizen!
And for all the police macho weapons drawn guys who have posted, read up a little on North Carolina state law on open carry and have yourself a refresher course in the second amendment.
To the Jerk Greensboro law enforcement officer on this video ...
Cmon' out to the country of NC and try that BS and see how long you last on the force before the whole community would be in an uproar and have you tossed off the force.
I don't necessarily agree with the pro-life stance but you sure made that cop look pretty dumb. Your reaction to him is quite odd though, something tells me your not a lawyer so I'd have to think you've been in trouble with the law before. Still you clearly know your rights and I think you have guts for standing up to him like that- he was put on the defensive.
dude if you did'nt have that camera and those witness they probably would of took your gun and tased you and charged you with endangering a police officer because they think there the only one's who can carry weapons
Right on man. I love all of the responses from the ignorant people (like this cop) who associate hand guns with crime. I guarantee if you hadn't been holding that camera he would have pulled his own weapon. The only thing I believe the officer could have called you on was if he informed you that your OC in that location was being interpreted as a threat.
The NC State law states clearly that you are allowed to own a gun rifle, shotgun, or handgun if you are 18 years of age, a permit is required for concealed carry. For open carry there is no state law in North Carolina. I can back up my comments with the official website on NC gun laws.
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Being an officer myself I would have drawn my lethal weapon. Wether or not you have to have a permit or not, if you have a gun on one of my scenes I AM going to gain control over the situation.
@Atlbraves28 Being an officer you should be ashamed. Drawing your weapon would have been illegal and would have presented an unnecessary danger to all parties including yourself and bystanders.
@jrpj1983 It doesn't matter what state you are in, if you fail to show i.d. when asked you can legally be arrested. and it would pose no danger at all to draw a weapon. you have no idea what its like for us out on the streets. you have many cops who are dirty and do the wrong thing, but for those of us who hold loyalty to our badge, we want to go home to our families at the end of the day.
@Atlbraves28 Man another corrupt cop. So sad that so many officers are really criminals or have criminal intentions!!! We really need to do away with privileged immunity for this reason.
COPS NEED TO KNOW A LAW TO ENFORCE IT. Its just common sense.
@Atlbraves28 No you wouldnt. I am an officer as well. Open carry is legal. You dont even have the reasonable doubt needed for a terry stop. You cant even question him. If it is not his property you can give him a lawful order to leave the area. if he refuses then you can cite him for a summary offence of loitering. Not even trespassing. its summary offence section 3288 of title 18 crimes code....
The NC State law states clearly that you are allowed to own a gun rifle, shotgun, or handgun if you are 18 years of age, a permit is required for concealed carry. For open carry there is no state law in North Carolina. I can back up my comments with the official website on NC gun laws. Please stop being so ignorant.
It can be inferred from the patches on his sleeve that he wasn't hired yesterday, so what in the world is a veteran officer doing turning his back on an armed man that he is confronting?
I think it's obvious that there was no grounds for detaining you. I would guess he went to check on that before he left. Regardless, I don't think it is a good idea to approach a police officer while having a pistol visible at your side. That's just me though.
Are YOU insane? THERE IS NO PERMIT REQUIRED TO CARRY A GUN ANYWHERE IN NC!!!
Furthermore, you are ASSUMING I don't have a permit. The facts are I didn't show him a permit, never did I deny having a permit. I asked "What kind of permit?"
In NC there are 2 permits relating to guns:
a) purchase permit
b) conceal carry permit
The titles denote what they are for; to purchase and to conceal. At the time I was neither purchasing nor concealing a gun.
@1224jwozniak You have NO clue as to what you are talking about. In the united states you are not even required to HAVE identification so how could you be required to show identification? Furthermore NC is NOT a stoop and identify state. And even FURTHERMORE, there is no permit in NC required to carry a gun.
@1224jwozniak lol no your not... what are you even talking about... an officer CAN ask you for ID.. but you dont have to show him nothing if your not under arrest..
@1224jwozniak put it this way... if that guy was REQUIRED to show proof of Id... why didnt the cop arrest him when he refused??? riddle me that batman...
@sinawava42 He was exercising his 4th amendment right! If that makes you a jerk... I'm a huge one. If the police knocked on your door and said they wanted to come in and search your home, computer, personal affects how would you answer? This is the same thing.
let the cop do his job!!! if you were carying a weapon the officer does have the authority to check for your permit. its like a drivers license, if your driving a car the officer has the right to ask for your license. as well as you have the right to not show it to him, although then he has the right to arrest you and suspend your license for a year. same princible
@jrpj1983 thats where federal law meets state law. there is a federal law to have a permit on you if you are carrying a gun. your right, i live in Arizona and am not 100% sure on the NC law. but i do know arizona has the loosest gun laws in the US. if i wanted to i could walk down main ST with my mossberg, and my AR-15 in hand, and it would be perfectly legal. i would show my id because i dont feel i have and reason to hide it and cause trouble
this condescending cop asks his age like most police do because he is insinuated that the man with the gun is acting childish and you can bet the next remark the cop would have made after the guy revealed his age would be about him acting like a baby and not a man. Police really do think citizens are children for simply exercising their rights and not kneeling before police aggression. love the fat cop calling it in and then simple leaving without apologizing. someone ask the cop his age.:)
wow, good for you man. know your rights and know the law. police are there to help us but you're in the right brotha! keep up the fight but against criminals!
I agree with a woman's right to choose. But, i also know that we all can say whatever we want (well, except yelling fire) Whenever we want to express our views....cops can t be trusted...
I think the biggest problem with police officers is that many of them just plain & simply don't know what the law is. I am kind of surprised he didn't draw down on you (Not that you deserved it). It just seemed like what I expected him to do. Bottom line if you don't have that camera on, this story ends differently. Way to stand your ground & use technology to make sure your rights were not treaded on. I think the cop made a good call leaving when he did, otherwise this is nice local news story.
Great Job standing your ground and defending your right to open carry. Pretty gutsy, dont think the people here in the Socialist Republic of California would ever try that. Great Job as many of us Californians are living our dream through you! hahaha
Let's see- you were at an abortion clinic - (see Controversial, Emotionally Charged Gatherings Where Heated Debates Ensue) wearing a pistol. Do you really think him asking you for your permit was some sort of violation of your rights?? If that was the case, why get a permit in the first place? If you're so bad, dont get one. If you do, dont be so uptight when an officer at an emotional forum like that asks you for it. You wasted more time chasing him with your camera than just showing it.
Also, When and where did Clinton/Obama have anything to do with the Patriot Act? From my understanding this was created/written completely under the Bush administration. Wow "Bush administration". Just saying that phrase makes my wallet hurt
Oh yes, the patriot act was written during the Clinton years but it wasn't until Bush took advantage of the terror of 9/11 that it was passed. Obama voted for the reenactment of Th Patriot Act.
The Bush administration is responsible for the Patriot Act I and II, the ridding of Habeas Corpus and the ignoring of Posse Comitatus. You won't here too many republicans talk about that as they yell about how Obama is destroying the country.
"Bush" "Obama" "FEDERAL RESERVE" all make my wallet hurt.
Yeah Whatever Uncle tom. Republicans make the most racist remarks. Do you actually think if MLK or Malcolm X would have voted for Ron Paul if they were alive today?
its always been a touchy subject but if not having an abortion as an option within your family thats your right and your choice. Nobody has the right to force any female in your family to have an abortion much like they do in China. Shoe on the other foot, nobody has the right to tell that woman she CAN'T have an abortion. If a women gets pregnant and doesn't want to have a kid SHE WILL ABORT, doctor or no doctor. Why outlaw the clinics and force women to seek dangerious means?
I'm very much libretrian in my political thinking and I feel the government should do two things: Protect us from foreign countries and protect us from each other, THAT"S IT!
Protecting us from each other would include enforcing contracts in civil courts and protecting us from criminal acts that includes one person violating the rights of another.
A person has a right to do what they please so long as they do not infringe on the right of another. Your rights end where another person's begin.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
Notice the order. LIFE is first because liberty and the pursuit of happiness are pretty useless if we can't protect the most essential right. The right to live.
I have a right to throw a punch whenever I please...so long as no ones face is in the way (barring self defense of course).
Likewise a woman has a right to do whatever she wants to do with her body SO LONG AS SHE DOES NOT INFRINGE ON THE RIGHT OF ANOTHER including the unborn baby inside of her.
If one agrees with the statement: "A person has a right to do what they please so long as they do not infringe on the right of another." then THE ONLY thing that should be up for discussion in the Pro-Life debate is whether or not it's a baby being killed.
If it IS a baby how can we say she has a "right" to kill it?
Do I have a "right" to kill my one year old? I can do what I want with my body right? So no one has he right to tell me what I can do with my body, it's my choice. No one can tell me I can't take the hands on MY BODY and choke my child, their MY HANDS on MY BODY and it's MY CHOICE what I want to do with them.
See how crazy that sounds? We ABSOLUTELY should tell people they can't do something with their body if it infringes on the rights of others.
"A person has a right to do what they please so long as they do not infringe on the right of another"
This is an outrageous example but did you ever consider that the woman's rights are being infringed upon by the child as it syphons the vitamins and neutrients from the females body? Sure we know thats SUPPOSED to happen during pregnancy but if the woman got pregnant via rape and didn't ever plan on having kids in life then why is it justified to force the syphoning?
I've never considered that the baby is violating the mothers right by siphoning vitamins. I see it as the mothers responsibility to provide for the baby just as the parents are responsible to provide for the baby after it's born.
It would be illegal to neglect the basic nutritional needs of a newborn. I could certainly argue that if I were forced to provide nutrition for, say another grown man, I could argue that's a violation of my rights.
Bravo! One question I have and PLEASE Don't think i'm being a smart ass. I'm serious when I ask this.
You were doing alot of backpeddling there for a min. Would you be aloud to give him a verbal non gun related warning to stop closing in on you or you'd be forced to defend yourself?
In any case great job! Why can't they show people like you on cops?
Btw I am a pro abortion atheist and I applaud this man for exercising his rights that Bush's Patriot act has half stripped.
The backing up was for safety. I have heard of LEO closing in and disarming people very quickly. Had I not backed up and he physically attempted to disarm me there would have been an increase in the chance of someone getting hurt.
Legally in NC you are required to attempt to retreat if possible before using DF if not on your property.
I guess a verbal warning would be legal but it's likely he could have perceived the warning as a threat.
The people in this video are exercising their rights to Freedoms of, expression, religion (This was an abortion clinic), to peaceably assemble, to bear arms, to be secure in their persons, papers, and effects. And the right not to be deprived of their life, liberty, or property, and the right to stand up to tyranny. There is nothing more American than this, I wish I had been there, nicely done!
haha your awesome. he was so scared to see a black guy with a gun haha. see him reach for his. he didnt know what to do when someone knew their rights. epic!
ok,, kudos to you but in the future please cooperate...thats why some young black males get shot dude by the cops...lucky u had a camera recording...he realised he wasnt dealing with an uneducated thug. thats why he didnt shoot. but still be smart a black dude open carrying is asking for trouble!!!!!!!!!
Being a black dude while opening carrying is asking for trouble? You mean doing what is a naturally given right is asking for trouble? What the fuck dude?
Watch the response video if you want to know the point.
Reading the description in the response video might help too but I'm not sure you have the mental capacity to read sense you obviously don't have the capacity to recognize who was really being an a** in this video.
Sorry dude, but the officer wasn't just "doing his job." If he was doing his job he would know he doesn't have the authority to detain the man for doing absolutely nothing nor have had to call in to verify a law that is pretty well known.
Doesnt matter open carry ccw whatever when a police officer ask for ur id u have to produce it. and they are allowed to temp seize ur gun when interaction occures...ps have u seen how many officers have been shot lately
If you have a gun at a "Peaceful assembly" or what we call PROTEST which is illegal jn most places, including Gboro, you got the cause to take the firearm . Anytime the police talk to you they are prob, conducting sometype of investigation, unless yall are good friends.
Speaking of laws there is also a law, going armed to the terror of the public. Some one called the police. Not cause they like abortions prob, cause they were scared
Yeah we do agree, the guy shouldnt been breaking the law when he had a gun on his hip.. and its prob not a good idea to have a firearm openly around abortion clinics period, ya know they get blown up and shot up regularly.
If a person has a gun on them legally and is doing there legal duty i find no problem with it.
But if i was doing any form of law enforcement i would not do business with them having a gun, and i wouldnt take there word for there identification....
All bullies are cowards. And bully / coward cops prove that all the time. What a punk. Now he's on the Interent for all the world to see what a punk cop coward bully he is. Good work!
More racism from the cops. Fugg this cop they DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE SYSTEM OF LAW IN WHICH THEY ENFORCE??? the cops got more scared because it's a black man who knows the laws and arms himself like a real citizen.
You got that right look up wearechange camera rights you will find a good one about the rights to film. It's awesome, we will continue to film them at every turn, we will prevail!
@RP4409 Just remember the patriot act, and be careful, alot of wild hogs out there, this man could have seriously been injured or detained. I am going to look for the follow up? I hope he is ok.
I don't accept that "act" or should I say VIOLATION of the free people.
Nor will I accept authority of the INTERPOL or similar when it comes. As if our local po-po's don't abuse their own citizens enough. Foreigners wont care about any of us!
True, an act, we the people understand that, but some of these police think they can get you on some trumped up bs charge because of it or the mentality that comes with it. What I mean to say I guess is, even with the proper papers they are antsy to go jack boot on you. It's hard to do what we know as legal when they are trained opposite. They are trained for like 6 weeks on how we the people are the enemy, and things like we are not going to help them. We just need to keep spreading the truth!
Funny as hell, just goes to show you how when the tables are turned, it proves that they do have a conscience when a person knows their rights,. Look how fast he did the ABOUT FACE LMAO
fucking to many idiots dont' understand what rights are and what it means to enact those rights. Your a bunch of fucking sheep running around not knowing a damn thing.
People like this in the video know what there rights are and know how to enact them, good for him.
If I had walked up on you and you had a gun and you talked to me like that your ass would have been one of two ways depending on how you acted. 1)tazed. 2)shot.
No no, you misunderstood or perhaps I was misguiding.
I meant to say the whole game changes when you are armed. Your analogy of the "unarmed sheep" is correct but the fact that you were armed would make me uncomfortable unless you did show me that you had a permit. By having the permit you tell me that you have taken the class and paid your class cost so you are qualified to carry. By denying me that request, at least in my state, I have the right to place you under arrest.... continued.
YOur a fucking tard, You do not need a permit. its the 2nd amendment. We have a RIGHT to bear arms. Learn what a Inalienable RIGHT is dumb ass. Open carrying isn't threatening either. Stop being a fucking lackey to the NWO and learn something about liberty and rights.
or if you get violent I now have the right to use deadly force if I feel necessary.
I don't quite understand why the officer turned his back on you when you had a gun but that is up to him I guess. Like I said, you're not in my state so the game may be different. This is not a personal attack so please don't take it personally.
Also, once again, in my state just you being there interfering with police business give me the right to ID you and run you through NCIC.
You are not required to have a permit to OC here, permit is for concealing.
You do not have to show ID unless you are concealing.
NC is not a "stop and ID state". We are not required to show ID upon request.
If he felt I was so close while recording that I was interfering with his work, I would have gladly stepped back if he had asked. I think it's clear I was at a reasonable distance and he didn't address my proximity as a concern.
Oh I see. I wish we had OC in Oklahoma. Here you either have a conceal carry license and conceal your weapon or you dont carry (unless you want to be a convicted felon haha)
I'm interested though, in NC anyone can carry a gun on the waistband? Or as it is called "OC"?
Just how was he interfering with police business? He open was simply video taping harrassment of some citizens. The fat pig who didn't know the law and kept putting his hand on the gun was the one who caused a scene.
In the State of North Carolina, whether your are assembling (peaceful or otherwise), protesting, or merely walking onto the property of an abortion clinic, it as explicitly stated in the NC State Statutes, that having any deadly weapon concealed or open-carried is unlawful. Not trying to argue but it is simply against the law.
"...OR MERELY WALKING ONTO THE PROPERTY of an abortion clinic, it as explicitly stated in the NC State Statutes"
No one was on their property. This was private property owned by a third party.
"Not trying to argue but it is simply against the law."
No argument here. The statute says "upon any private health care facility or upon any public place owned or under the control of the State or any of its political subdivisions". The location in question does not meet that description.
Well, with that said, private property, I guess you would be right. I take it you are the person arrested over this? Good luck with all that. But please becareful open carrying in public, I am sure you know that all it takes is someone telling the police that you scare them with your gun on your side and you can be arrested. It may not hold up in court but you can be charged on the spot. Of course, I think they now have your gun(s) anyway.
No, I think guns anywhere except for the privacy of home should be excluded. I would never drive up to an abortion clinic even while just filming, carrying a gun.
I admire your courage and appreciate what your doing for this county of ours... the United States of "Americans"..... God Bless You And Keep Up The Good Work..... Be careful and never go it alone....
is asking for ID harassment? if u have a gun and a permit, u are suppose to show it to an officer when asked. N.C. Gen. Stat. § 14-415.12A. that's no different than being asked for ID when you buy cigs or alcohol. should i then say, y r u asking for my license, i'm not driving a motor vehicle. how crazy does that sound? u show ur ID b/c it is the law. u show your gun permit b/c it is the law. i would hope that the cop does ask if some nut w/o a permit is walking around with a gun.
I just noticed you set up a YouTube account on Nov. 2 and have only watched two videos and made one comment.
You went through all the trouble to get a YouTube acct so you could post on this video, then you post the wrong statute and make up laws about permits and ID requirements for OC.
resisting law enforcement, refusal to ID, and criminal trespass. these are all the laws the you broke and you should have been arrested for.
MrBBC1984 1 year ago
@MrBBC1984
1) trespassing is ridiculous: private property where the property owner/manager didn't ask anyone to leave
2) I was never asked to ID myself, I was only asked to produce ID, there's a difference. There's no law in NC to produce ID.
3) They tried to charge me with resisting an officer but a judge dismissed the charge before it even went to verdict.
Hope your not studying law...
jrpj1983 1 year ago
ha ha sent the lying pig running
michaelf1900 1 year ago
i love the dumbfounded look at 0:26
scandmx5atl 1 year ago
Gun owner-1
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PornDawgDaddy 1 year ago
"Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms." -- James Madison
justtex1975 1 year ago
You were completely out of line.If you can't see that you are an idiot.
mompood 1 year ago
@mompood If you cant be more articulate in your claim or back up your statement with any more specifics, it would indicate that you are an idiot.
jrpj1983 1 year ago
enn, 26, of 933 Meadow Oak Drive, Apt. 108 , was charged with misdemeanor counts of possession of a firearm at a parade or demonstration, failing to store a firearm to protect a minor, and resisting a public officer. The charges stem from an investigation that began Oct. 17..
Court records also indicate Penn is of “high interest to the FBI because of his alignment with violent demonstrators at abortion clinics.”He turned himself in for questioning and was later arrested.
tboren5115 1 year ago
@tboren5115 A man charged with possessing a handgun outside of a Greensboro abortion clinic last fall was found not guilty last week in Guilford County court.
Penn, 27, was found not guilty July 6 on a charge of possession of a firearm outside of a parade or demonstration.
The court also dismissed two other charges against him regarding failing to secure a firearm to protect a minor and resisting a public officer.
jrpj1983 1 year ago
@jrpj1983 that is also true but whats the point in acting like an ass to prove you are right. you have to understand his side that not everybody that has a gun is a nice guy you could have easily shot him at multiple points in that conversation. if you walked u[ on someone that had a gun and was video taping you it would make you nervous as well. i have a permit here is memphis and i carry everyday mostly concealed. even when i do carry open ive always given my I.D. and never had a problem.
tboren5115 1 year ago
@tboren5115 I don't think I acted like an "ass" to prove I was right. You have to understand my side that not every cop that has a gun is a nice guy. He could have easily shot me at multiple points in that conversation. That was more likely as he grabbed his weapon and I never reached for mine.
I never broke the law, screamed, yelled acted threatening, or reached for my weapon.
Can you specifically state when I was an "ass"?
jrpj1983 1 year ago
I think general perception leads people to that conclusion if they ever see anyone challenge authority. People quickly draw a conclusion before thoroughly evaluating if that authority should have been challenged.
jrpj1983 1 year ago
@jrpj1983 that is also true but whats the point in acting like an ass to prove you are right. you have to understand his side that not everybody that has a gun is a nice guy you could have easily shot him at multiple points in that conversation. if you walked up on someone that had a gun and was video taping you it would make you nervous as well. i have a permit here is memphis and i carry everyday mostly concealed. even when i do carry open ive always given my I.D. and never had a problem.
tboren5115 1 year ago
1. It is not illegal to record in a public place, 2. It is not illegal to open carry, 3. A cop can not request your ID if there is not probable cause you are or are about to commit a crime, however when you walk up to a police officer with a gun and a camera while he is doing his job and it is a distraction(which this clearly was), that is called OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE and is illegal.
NazurithStyne 1 year ago
@NazurithStyne wow...the cop never said obstruction, he said trespassing. It is NOT illegal to observe/record from a reasonable distance; the interaction was with two men and was not physical so the 10-15 foot distance I kept was reasonable.
If I was to close, why would he not say something like "keep your distance"??? That never seemed to be the issue. HOWEVER before I was within 30 feet, I was told to "put the phone up". Which sounds like their concern: the phone or obstruction?
jrpj1983 1 year ago
@NazurithStyne
If the officer was "distracted" by a citizen acting within all of his Rights, to the point of that distraction reaching "OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE", that officer needs more training or to find another type of work.
Every time I see this video I'm so filled with pride, because we DO have well informed patriotic citizens like jrpj1983 willing to live among those of us that don't have 1% of his courage, patriotism & strength of conviction.
justtex1975 1 year ago
fuck the poice i got harrassed today
bluntedout760 1 year ago
IF U WOULD NOT HAVE HAD THAT CAM IT WOULD HAVE WENT TOTALLY DIFFERENT AS I N!GGA I KNOW DAWG
Groverfargo 1 year ago
@Atlbraves28 It would pose danger and it's beyond me how you can't understand that. Drawing your weapon on a armed citizen poses no danger??? How do you come to that conclusion?
jrpj1983 1 year ago
@jrpj1983 If you're not a bad guy, which obviously you weren't, then there would be no danger. However, if you were a bad guy and felt the need to use your gun on the officer, for whatever reason it may be, then it is in his best interest to be protected. Especially because you were clearly backing away from him.
Atlbraves28 1 year ago
@Atlbraves28 you are mistaken. You do not have to show ID in NC. I'm not even required to have ID so how can I e required to show ID. I didn't even have my ID on me. You are required to identify yourself if asked but he never asked.
All I would have had to say was name and residence NOT show ID.
If you hold loyalty to your badge thanks for being one of the few, though I doubt that based off of your other comment.
I want to go home to my family too and he posed more threat than a thug.
jrpj1983 1 year ago
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ctg18158 1 year ago
The NC State law states clearly that you are allowed to own a gun rifle, shotgun, or handgun if you are 18 years of age, a permit is required for concealed carry. For open carry there is no state law in North Carolina. I can back up my comments with the official website on NC gun laws.
Sting3733 1 year ago
Good for you for asserting your legal rights as a law abiding citizen!
And for all the police macho weapons drawn guys who have posted, read up a little on North Carolina state law on open carry and have yourself a refresher course in the second amendment.
To the Jerk Greensboro law enforcement officer on this video ...
Cmon' out to the country of NC and try that BS and see how long you last on the force before the whole community would be in an uproar and have you tossed off the force.
fancypicker 1 year ago
Too bad the cop didn't grab the bible thumper's bible and beat him with it, that would have been hilarious.
DrKnowEverything 1 year ago
Obviously the cop felt no threat from someone who cherishes life, that's why he was wiping the doughnut sugar off his mouth.
2884040 1 year ago
I don't necessarily agree with the pro-life stance but you sure made that cop look pretty dumb. Your reaction to him is quite odd though, something tells me your not a lawyer so I'd have to think you've been in trouble with the law before. Still you clearly know your rights and I think you have guts for standing up to him like that- he was put on the defensive.
RoadCone411 1 year ago
Acquiited? Yep. Why? Because no laws were broken.
thesawgrassraven 1 year ago
dude if you did'nt have that camera and those witness they probably would of took your gun and tased you and charged you with endangering a police officer because they think there the only one's who can carry weapons
infinity3jif 1 year ago
at altbraves28 then bud you are playing with your life . some folks <<<< will not hesitate on a bully cop .
morgy71373 1 year ago
Congrats on being found NOT GUILTY July 6! Two thumbs up.
WhatLolaWants2 1 year ago
A "pro-life" activist carrying a handgun!
The officer showed remarkable restraint. It's a terrible shame that you were acquitted.
32braveheart 1 year ago
@32braveheart Are you implying that owning a handgun somehow makes one anti-life"??? That's silly...
jrpj1983 1 year ago
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acquitted of what? i did not see anyone get charged with a violation.
ctg18158 1 year ago
Right on man. I love all of the responses from the ignorant people (like this cop) who associate hand guns with crime. I guarantee if you hadn't been holding that camera he would have pulled his own weapon. The only thing I believe the officer could have called you on was if he informed you that your OC in that location was being interpreted as a threat.
templeofvesarius 1 year ago
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wardbr549 1 year ago
@wardbr549 stop showing your ignorance. Yo are not required to posses nor show ID in NC regardless of if you are carrying a gun or not.
If you think otherwise, simply post the statute that proves your point or be quiet.
jrpj1983 1 year ago 8
@jrpj1983 Two months is a long time to find a statute...
DeadeyeSteve 1 year ago
@wardbr549 and spell fault correctly.
jaybeesworld 1 year ago
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@wardbr549
The NC State law states clearly that you are allowed to own a gun rifle, shotgun, or handgun if you are 18 years of age, a permit is required for concealed carry. For open carry there is no state law in North Carolina. I can back up my comments with the official website on NC gun laws.
Sting3733 1 year ago
@wardbr549 "Fault" has a little "u" hidden in there, and you sir are wrong.
smith45acp 1 year ago
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Being an officer myself I would have drawn my lethal weapon. Wether or not you have to have a permit or not, if you have a gun on one of my scenes I AM going to gain control over the situation.
Atlbraves28 1 year ago
@Atlbraves28 Being an officer you should be ashamed. Drawing your weapon would have been illegal and would have presented an unnecessary danger to all parties including yourself and bystanders.
jrpj1983 1 year ago 10
@jrpj1983 It doesn't matter what state you are in, if you fail to show i.d. when asked you can legally be arrested. and it would pose no danger at all to draw a weapon. you have no idea what its like for us out on the streets. you have many cops who are dirty and do the wrong thing, but for those of us who hold loyalty to our badge, we want to go home to our families at the end of the day.
Atlbraves28 1 year ago
@Atlbraves28 Man another corrupt cop. So sad that so many officers are really criminals or have criminal intentions!!! We really need to do away with privileged immunity for this reason.
COPS NEED TO KNOW A LAW TO ENFORCE IT. Its just common sense.
GenitalGrinder69 1 year ago
@Atlbraves28 No you wouldnt. I am an officer as well. Open carry is legal. You dont even have the reasonable doubt needed for a terry stop. You cant even question him. If it is not his property you can give him a lawful order to leave the area. if he refuses then you can cite him for a summary offence of loitering. Not even trespassing. its summary offence section 3288 of title 18 crimes code....
RJYEMS 1 year ago 2
@Atlbraves28 see how possessive and controlling your words are? id suppose your actions mirror your sentiments.
control freak. psychotic control freaks.
jaybeesworld 1 year ago
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@Atlbraves28
The NC State law states clearly that you are allowed to own a gun rifle, shotgun, or handgun if you are 18 years of age, a permit is required for concealed carry. For open carry there is no state law in North Carolina. I can back up my comments with the official website on NC gun laws. Please stop being so ignorant.
Sting3733 1 year ago
@Atlbraves28 your a disgrace to the badge
garciajayd 1 year ago
way to go jrpj1983 you did a great job of asserting your rights and answering the posted comments.
ctg18158 1 year ago
It can be inferred from the patches on his sleeve that he wasn't hired yesterday, so what in the world is a veteran officer doing turning his back on an armed man that he is confronting?
dasnasdi 1 year ago
I think it's obvious that there was no grounds for detaining you. I would guess he went to check on that before he left. Regardless, I don't think it is a good idea to approach a police officer while having a pistol visible at your side. That's just me though.
WPowell420 1 year ago
You have a handgun in Greensboro and yet your not aware you need a permit to carry it around? Are you insaine?
Babylauncher3000 1 year ago
Are YOU insane? THERE IS NO PERMIT REQUIRED TO CARRY A GUN ANYWHERE IN NC!!!
Furthermore, you are ASSUMING I don't have a permit. The facts are I didn't show him a permit, never did I deny having a permit. I asked "What kind of permit?"
In NC there are 2 permits relating to guns:
a) purchase permit
b) conceal carry permit
The titles denote what they are for; to purchase and to conceal. At the time I was neither purchasing nor concealing a gun.
Take your sanity questions elsewhere...
jrpj1983 1 year ago 2
@Babylauncher3000 why is it none of you can spell anything correctly?
im sensing some sort of discrepancy in intellegence here.
betcha ten bucks he has a badge AND a gun.
jaybeesworld 1 year ago
in the united states YouARE required to show proof of identification to a officer of the law no matter what the sit.
1224jwozniak 1 year ago
@1224jwozniak You have NO clue as to what you are talking about. In the united states you are not even required to HAVE identification so how could you be required to show identification? Furthermore NC is NOT a stoop and identify state. And even FURTHERMORE, there is no permit in NC required to carry a gun.
Do some research prior to posting next time...
(BTW whats "proof" of identification?)
jrpj1983 1 year ago
@1224jwozniak lol no your not... what are you even talking about... an officer CAN ask you for ID.. but you dont have to show him nothing if your not under arrest..
PezkeyWabbitz 1 year ago
@1224jwozniak put it this way... if that guy was REQUIRED to show proof of Id... why didnt the cop arrest him when he refused??? riddle me that batman...
PezkeyWabbitz 1 year ago
That cop was being very reasonable. You were being a total jerk.
sinawava42 1 year ago
@sinawava42 ok
jrpj1983 1 year ago
@sinawava42 He was exercising his 4th amendment right! If that makes you a jerk... I'm a huge one. If the police knocked on your door and said they wanted to come in and search your home, computer, personal affects how would you answer? This is the same thing.
smith45acp 1 year ago
let the cop do his job!!! if you were carying a weapon the officer does have the authority to check for your permit. its like a drivers license, if your driving a car the officer has the right to ask for your license. as well as you have the right to not show it to him, although then he has the right to arrest you and suspend your license for a year. same princible
mino117american 1 year ago
@mino117american you are obviously ignorant of NC law. There IS NO PERMIT to carry a gun here.
jrpj1983 1 year ago
@jrpj1983 thats where federal law meets state law. there is a federal law to have a permit on you if you are carrying a gun. your right, i live in Arizona and am not 100% sure on the NC law. but i do know arizona has the loosest gun laws in the US. if i wanted to i could walk down main ST with my mossberg, and my AR-15 in hand, and it would be perfectly legal. i would show my id because i dont feel i have and reason to hide it and cause trouble
mino117american 1 year ago
@mino117american What Federal Law says you have to have a permit?
jrpj1983 1 year ago
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evo313 1 year ago
@mino117american It's nothing like driving a car. Driving a car is not a constitutionally recognized right
smith45acp 1 year ago
this condescending cop asks his age like most police do because he is insinuated that the man with the gun is acting childish and you can bet the next remark the cop would have made after the guy revealed his age would be about him acting like a baby and not a man. Police really do think citizens are children for simply exercising their rights and not kneeling before police aggression. love the fat cop calling it in and then simple leaving without apologizing. someone ask the cop his age.:)
XXXXXpimptaddyone 1 year ago
wow, good for you man. know your rights and know the law. police are there to help us but you're in the right brotha! keep up the fight but against criminals!
italianppf2 1 year ago
@italianppf2
most cops are criminals that just never got caught
XXXXXpimptaddyone 1 year ago
how old are you? what the fuck does his age have to do with anything
XXXXXpimptaddyone 1 year ago
I agree with a woman's right to choose. But, i also know that we all can say whatever we want (well, except yelling fire) Whenever we want to express our views....cops can t be trusted...
meyerd1 1 year ago
poor cops, dont want to share......want the guns all to themselves.
XXXXXpimptaddyone 1 year ago
HAHA, good one
i like the idea of cops cant have guns, only us citizens..i bet the world would be a way better place..
meyerd1 1 year ago
that's funny! but sorry i'm not sharing with anyone except my wife and two daughters!!
italianppf2 1 year ago
Good work! Glad to know you know your rights and good to see you open carrying! :)
l1nuxun1l 1 year ago
I think the biggest problem with police officers is that many of them just plain & simply don't know what the law is. I am kind of surprised he didn't draw down on you (Not that you deserved it). It just seemed like what I expected him to do. Bottom line if you don't have that camera on, this story ends differently. Way to stand your ground & use technology to make sure your rights were not treaded on. I think the cop made a good call leaving when he did, otherwise this is nice local news story.
lbcjustin 1 year ago
Great Job standing your ground and defending your right to open carry. Pretty gutsy, dont think the people here in the Socialist Republic of California would ever try that. Great Job as many of us Californians are living our dream through you! hahaha
speeedracerr 1 year ago 2
Excellent video jrpj1983. Way to stand your ground.
merrillj4431 1 year ago
Let's see- you were at an abortion clinic - (see Controversial, Emotionally Charged Gatherings Where Heated Debates Ensue) wearing a pistol. Do you really think him asking you for your permit was some sort of violation of your rights?? If that was the case, why get a permit in the first place? If you're so bad, dont get one. If you do, dont be so uptight when an officer at an emotional forum like that asks you for it. You wasted more time chasing him with your camera than just showing it.
scooter72 1 year ago
There's no permit required to OC in NC.
jrpj1983 1 year ago
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scooter72 1 year ago
Also, When and where did Clinton/Obama have anything to do with the Patriot Act? From my understanding this was created/written completely under the Bush administration. Wow "Bush administration". Just saying that phrase makes my wallet hurt
Maxipad44142 2 years ago
Oh yes, the patriot act was written during the Clinton years but it wasn't until Bush took advantage of the terror of 9/11 that it was passed. Obama voted for the reenactment of Th Patriot Act.
The Bush administration is responsible for the Patriot Act I and II, the ridding of Habeas Corpus and the ignoring of Posse Comitatus. You won't here too many republicans talk about that as they yell about how Obama is destroying the country.
"Bush" "Obama" "FEDERAL RESERVE" all make my wallet hurt.
jrpj1983 2 years ago
Don't blame me I voted for Ron Paul!
jrpj1983 2 years ago
Yeah Whatever Uncle tom. Republicans make the most racist remarks. Do you actually think if MLK or Malcolm X would have voted for Ron Paul if they were alive today?
j05baker 1 year ago
What are you talking about???
jrpj1983 1 year ago
its always been a touchy subject but if not having an abortion as an option within your family thats your right and your choice. Nobody has the right to force any female in your family to have an abortion much like they do in China. Shoe on the other foot, nobody has the right to tell that woman she CAN'T have an abortion. If a women gets pregnant and doesn't want to have a kid SHE WILL ABORT, doctor or no doctor. Why outlaw the clinics and force women to seek dangerious means?
Maxipad44142 2 years ago
I'm very much libretrian in my political thinking and I feel the government should do two things: Protect us from foreign countries and protect us from each other, THAT"S IT!
Protecting us from each other would include enforcing contracts in civil courts and protecting us from criminal acts that includes one person violating the rights of another.
A person has a right to do what they please so long as they do not infringe on the right of another. Your rights end where another person's begin.
jrpj1983 2 years ago
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
Notice the order. LIFE is first because liberty and the pursuit of happiness are pretty useless if we can't protect the most essential right. The right to live.
I have a right to throw a punch whenever I please...so long as no ones face is in the way (barring self defense of course).
jrpj1983 2 years ago
Likewise a woman has a right to do whatever she wants to do with her body SO LONG AS SHE DOES NOT INFRINGE ON THE RIGHT OF ANOTHER including the unborn baby inside of her.
If one agrees with the statement: "A person has a right to do what they please so long as they do not infringe on the right of another." then THE ONLY thing that should be up for discussion in the Pro-Life debate is whether or not it's a baby being killed.
If it IS a baby how can we say she has a "right" to kill it?
jrpj1983 2 years ago
Do I have a "right" to kill my one year old? I can do what I want with my body right? So no one has he right to tell me what I can do with my body, it's my choice. No one can tell me I can't take the hands on MY BODY and choke my child, their MY HANDS on MY BODY and it's MY CHOICE what I want to do with them.
See how crazy that sounds? We ABSOLUTELY should tell people they can't do something with their body if it infringes on the rights of others.
jrpj1983 2 years ago
Exactly as you said!
"A person has a right to do what they please so long as they do not infringe on the right of another"
This is an outrageous example but did you ever consider that the woman's rights are being infringed upon by the child as it syphons the vitamins and neutrients from the females body? Sure we know thats SUPPOSED to happen during pregnancy but if the woman got pregnant via rape and didn't ever plan on having kids in life then why is it justified to force the syphoning?
Maxipad44142 2 years ago
I've never considered that the baby is violating the mothers right by siphoning vitamins. I see it as the mothers responsibility to provide for the baby just as the parents are responsible to provide for the baby after it's born.
It would be illegal to neglect the basic nutritional needs of a newborn. I could certainly argue that if I were forced to provide nutrition for, say another grown man, I could argue that's a violation of my rights.
jrpj1983 2 years ago
To say it violates the mothers right to provide for the unborn is like saying it's a violation for the newborn to siphon nutrition.
As for the rape thing, hat's a horrible situation. Nevertheless, horrible situations don't constitute violating the rights of the innocent.
If someone violated my rights by stealing from me, that does not constitute me stealing from a third party because I can't pay my bills now.
Likewise a woman being violated doesn't constitute her violating a baby's right.
jrpj1983 2 years ago
BTW, I appreciate the healthy debate. I understand that this can be a VERY inflammatory topic; I'm glad we can discuss it in a tactful manner.
jrpj1983 2 years ago
btw, this video could use some captions
Maxipad44142 2 years ago
Bravo! One question I have and PLEASE Don't think i'm being a smart ass. I'm serious when I ask this.
You were doing alot of backpeddling there for a min. Would you be aloud to give him a verbal non gun related warning to stop closing in on you or you'd be forced to defend yourself?
In any case great job! Why can't they show people like you on cops?
Btw I am a pro abortion atheist and I applaud this man for exercising his rights that Bush's Patriot act has half stripped.
Maxipad44142 2 years ago
The backing up was for safety. I have heard of LEO closing in and disarming people very quickly. Had I not backed up and he physically attempted to disarm me there would have been an increase in the chance of someone getting hurt.
Legally in NC you are required to attempt to retreat if possible before using DF if not on your property.
I guess a verbal warning would be legal but it's likely he could have perceived the warning as a threat.
jrpj1983 2 years ago
Also, the Patriot act written under Clinton, passed under Bush and voted on by Obama is definitely an assault on our rights.
I can respect the fact that you can see the right of these men even if you disagree with the message.
You sound like a libertarian minded individual; do you mind if I ask why you are pro abortion?
jrpj1983 2 years ago
The people in this video are exercising their rights to Freedoms of, expression, religion (This was an abortion clinic), to peaceably assemble, to bear arms, to be secure in their persons, papers, and effects. And the right not to be deprived of their life, liberty, or property, and the right to stand up to tyranny. There is nothing more American than this, I wish I had been there, nicely done!
DanceRooster 2 years ago
haha your awesome. he was so scared to see a black guy with a gun haha. see him reach for his. he didnt know what to do when someone knew their rights. epic!
crownvic1776 2 years ago
Way to stand up for yourself!
"Let me see your drivers license" "Am I driving a motor vehicle?" Awesome response.
jakael78 2 years ago
ok,, kudos to you but in the future please cooperate...thats why some young black males get shot dude by the cops...lucky u had a camera recording...he realised he wasnt dealing with an uneducated thug. thats why he didnt shoot. but still be smart a black dude open carrying is asking for trouble!!!!!!!!!
shobia99 2 years ago
Being a black dude while opening carrying is asking for trouble? You mean doing what is a naturally given right is asking for trouble? What the fuck dude?
kaliniteeffusion 1 year ago
dont you hate it when the police try to act like there the boss !!
sargon08 2 years ago
What is the point in this? Besides proving to the world that you can be a complete ass to an officer who is just trying to do his job?
leahb318 2 years ago
Watch the response video if you want to know the point.
Reading the description in the response video might help too but I'm not sure you have the mental capacity to read sense you obviously don't have the capacity to recognize who was really being an a** in this video.
jrpj1983 2 years ago
Sorry dude, but the officer wasn't just "doing his job." If he was doing his job he would know he doesn't have the authority to detain the man for doing absolutely nothing nor have had to call in to verify a law that is pretty well known.
kaliniteeffusion 1 year ago 4
Keep up the good work men. They are killing babies inside and he care not about that.
noplannedparenthood 2 years ago
looks like you guys were protesting a deserted parking lot
fecalbell 2 years ago
Doesnt matter open carry ccw whatever when a police officer ask for ur id u have to produce it. and they are allowed to temp seize ur gun when interaction occures...ps have u seen how many officers have been shot lately
hbha2445 2 years ago
"when a police officer ask for ur id u have to produce it."
This is not always true anymore. Police generally must first be actively conducting an investigation of a crime. ID can be given verbally.
Please research the Supreme Court case 'Hiibel' for more information.
Pafoofnik1 2 years ago
If you have a gun at a "Peaceful assembly" or what we call PROTEST which is illegal jn most places, including Gboro, you got the cause to take the firearm . Anytime the police talk to you they are prob, conducting sometype of investigation, unless yall are good friends.
Speaking of laws there is also a law, going armed to the terror of the public. Some one called the police. Not cause they like abortions prob, cause they were scared
hbha2445 2 years ago
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Pafoofnik1 2 years ago
So we are in agreement that police need to be conducting an investigation before they have the power to require identification.
(Sorry for the deleted comment. It had a typo.)
Pafoofnik1 2 years ago
No one called the cops because of the gun. The cop saw the gun on the hip of the camera man.
kwikrnu 2 years ago
Yeah we do agree, the guy shouldnt been breaking the law when he had a gun on his hip.. and its prob not a good idea to have a firearm openly around abortion clinics period, ya know they get blown up and shot up regularly.
If a person has a gun on them legally and is doing there legal duty i find no problem with it.
But if i was doing any form of law enforcement i would not do business with them having a gun, and i wouldnt take there word for there identification....
People do lie.
hbha2445 2 years ago
cops hate it when law abiding citizens carry gus.... careful you dont get shot by some trigger happy cop...
jesseakers 2 years ago
What is the cop's name? I didn't quite catch that.
CPSSucks 2 years ago
Please remember, whether you are dealing with CPS baby snatchers or lesbo cops: All bullies are cowards. Act accordingly.
CPSSucks 2 years ago
All bullies are cowards. And bully / coward cops prove that all the time. What a punk. Now he's on the Interent for all the world to see what a punk cop coward bully he is. Good work!
CPSSucks 2 years ago 2
They seem to forget that most states does allow open carry, you only need CCW when you're concealing it. That officer must have felt real dumb.
Another words the camera man is within his rights!
jlac2xmglock 2 years ago 2
God bless you brother
OnlyJesusCanSaveYou 2 years ago
More racism from the cops. Fugg this cop they DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE SYSTEM OF LAW IN WHICH THEY ENFORCE??? the cops got more scared because it's a black man who knows the laws and arms himself like a real citizen.
vesperus1981 2 years ago
Shocking harrassment.
It seems the police the world over don't like to me filmed by the public.
As the saying goes "what goes around, comes around".
If they want CCTV and a police state, we want CCTV to film the police state.
Well done on the video!
UKSecretCourts 2 years ago 2
You got that right look up wearechange camera rights you will find a good one about the rights to film. It's awesome, we will continue to film them at every turn, we will prevail!
whatsnextnow19791 2 years ago
Good job!
SAUNDERSacts2618 2 years ago 2
hhahahahahahahah bitch slapped
OMG a man with a gun....lol
last time I checked this was America....I cannot believe how they freak out like like you are the enemy...WTF
RP4409 2 years ago
@RP4409 Just remember the patriot act, and be careful, alot of wild hogs out there, this man could have seriously been injured or detained. I am going to look for the follow up? I hope he is ok.
whatsnextnow19791 2 years ago
whatsnextnow19791....the patriot act is just that....an act. It has no rule of law and does not trump the constitution.
I simply don't acknowledge the patriot act.
RP4409 2 years ago
@RP4409
You got THAT right!
I don't accept that "act" or should I say VIOLATION of the free people.
Nor will I accept authority of the INTERPOL or similar when it comes. As if our local po-po's don't abuse their own citizens enough. Foreigners wont care about any of us!
GodGunsGutsGlory777 2 years ago
True, an act, we the people understand that, but some of these police think they can get you on some trumped up bs charge because of it or the mentality that comes with it. What I mean to say I guess is, even with the proper papers they are antsy to go jack boot on you. It's hard to do what we know as legal when they are trained opposite. They are trained for like 6 weeks on how we the people are the enemy, and things like we are not going to help them. We just need to keep spreading the truth!
whatsnextnow19791 2 years ago
Typical bad cop who is part of the new world order weather he realizes it or not.
They want civilians to think they are not permitted to carry a firearm. Only the government.
That is complete nonsense and I rely on my firearms far more than I'd rely on the police to come protect my family or personal self.
Thug Cop here is probably one who is in bed with CPS. The evil cop who will escort a CPS agent when they go to your house to STEAL your child(ren)!
GodGunsGutsGlory777 2 years ago
@GodGunsGutsGlory777 Your wife is fat.
skanktimonious 2 years ago
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Abortion isint wrong in gods eyes, if he even exists he lists how to perorm an abortion in leviticus.
Look at all the infantcide in the old testement.
And its legal and the bible says to obey the law.
If anything we need more abortions.
1robster1 2 years ago
I'd be interested to know what scriptures you are referring to in regards to abortion...
jrpj1983 2 years ago
This is the best pirate encounter I have ever seen!!! LOL! Stupid tub of lard pig.
G95G95 2 years ago
Funny as hell, just goes to show you how when the tables are turned, it proves that they do have a conscience when a person knows their rights,. Look how fast he did the ABOUT FACE LMAO
handsofgod7 2 years ago
I'm sure that fat slob pig cop will go far in his promotions.
M14Mann 2 years ago
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friction405 2 years ago
fucking to many idiots dont' understand what rights are and what it means to enact those rights. Your a bunch of fucking sheep running around not knowing a damn thing.
People like this in the video know what there rights are and know how to enact them, good for him.
Frozin1234 2 years ago
If I had walked up on you and you had a gun and you talked to me like that your ass would have been one of two ways depending on how you acted. 1)tazed. 2)shot.
01Vortec 2 years ago
So you would have tazed or shot e because of how I "talked"? What's legal or moral bout that?
You're real tough...BTW, don't forget, I was armed too so the playing field would hae been lil more even than shooting an unarmed sheep :)
jrpj1983 2 years ago
No no, you misunderstood or perhaps I was misguiding.
I meant to say the whole game changes when you are armed. Your analogy of the "unarmed sheep" is correct but the fact that you were armed would make me uncomfortable unless you did show me that you had a permit. By having the permit you tell me that you have taken the class and paid your class cost so you are qualified to carry. By denying me that request, at least in my state, I have the right to place you under arrest.... continued.
01Vortec 2 years ago
YOur a fucking tard, You do not need a permit. its the 2nd amendment. We have a RIGHT to bear arms. Learn what a Inalienable RIGHT is dumb ass. Open carrying isn't threatening either. Stop being a fucking lackey to the NWO and learn something about liberty and rights.
Frozin1234 2 years ago
@ frozin1234: Okay dipshit, I'm telling you in OK you MUST have a permit to conceal and carry. There is no such thing as Open Carry in OK.
01Vortec 2 years ago
or if you get violent I now have the right to use deadly force if I feel necessary.
I don't quite understand why the officer turned his back on you when you had a gun but that is up to him I guess. Like I said, you're not in my state so the game may be different. This is not a personal attack so please don't take it personally.
Also, once again, in my state just you being there interfering with police business give me the right to ID you and run you through NCIC.
01Vortec 2 years ago
I got you now.
Here is the scoop in NC.
You are not required to have a permit to OC here, permit is for concealing.
You do not have to show ID unless you are concealing.
NC is not a "stop and ID state". We are not required to show ID upon request.
If he felt I was so close while recording that I was interfering with his work, I would have gladly stepped back if he had asked. I think it's clear I was at a reasonable distance and he didn't address my proximity as a concern.
jrpj1983 2 years ago
Oh I see. I wish we had OC in Oklahoma. Here you either have a conceal carry license and conceal your weapon or you dont carry (unless you want to be a convicted felon haha)
I'm interested though, in NC anyone can carry a gun on the waistband? Or as it is called "OC"?
01Vortec 2 years ago
Basically. As long as you can legally posses a firearm (i.e. 18 or older, no felonies, no mental issues, domestic violence etc.).
Of course there are restricted areas but they usually apply to conceal and OC (open carry).
The only exception I can thin of is a financial institution (bank/credit union). You CAN OC in a FI but you CAN NOT conceal in a FI.
jrpj1983 2 years ago
Wow, very interesting! Thanks for sharing. Remind me to never go in a bank in NC haha
01Vortec 2 years ago
LOL
jrpj1983 2 years ago
Just how was he interfering with police business? He open was simply video taping harrassment of some citizens. The fat pig who didn't know the law and kept putting his hand on the gun was the one who caused a scene.
kwikrnu 2 years ago
In the State of North Carolina, whether your are assembling (peaceful or otherwise), protesting, or merely walking onto the property of an abortion clinic, it as explicitly stated in the NC State Statutes, that having any deadly weapon concealed or open-carried is unlawful. Not trying to argue but it is simply against the law.
tekwatcher 2 years ago
"...OR MERELY WALKING ONTO THE PROPERTY of an abortion clinic, it as explicitly stated in the NC State Statutes"
No one was on their property. This was private property owned by a third party.
"Not trying to argue but it is simply against the law."
No argument here. The statute says "upon any private health care facility or upon any public place owned or under the control of the State or any of its political subdivisions". The location in question does not meet that description.
jrpj1983 2 years ago
Well, with that said, private property, I guess you would be right. I take it you are the person arrested over this? Good luck with all that. But please becareful open carrying in public, I am sure you know that all it takes is someone telling the police that you scare them with your gun on your side and you can be arrested. It may not hold up in court but you can be charged on the spot. Of course, I think they now have your gun(s) anyway.
tekwatcher 2 years ago
@ mrrayco
Thank you! And God Bless...
jrpj1983 2 years ago
MIKMA WAS HERE
mikma 2 years ago
What kinda dummy carries a gun around while protesting.. with how scared society is you'd think that you would show up without one.
DimitrisduchessXD 2 years ago
So your thought process is to not carry a gun in situations where people might get scared?
Also, what makes you so sure it was a protest and that I was a part of it?
jrpj1983 2 years ago
No, I think guns anywhere except for the privacy of home should be excluded. I would never drive up to an abortion clinic even while just filming, carrying a gun.
DimitrisduchessXD 2 years ago
OK. Well now I have a better understanding of where you come from.
Just so I have a clearer picture, should law enforcement have guns outside of the privacy of their homes?
Do you believe people have an unalienable right to protect their life?
Do you believe people have an unalienable right to bear arms?
Do you think rights derive from gov. or our creator?
What's your take on the 2nd amendment?
I'm really intrigued to your view of this...
jrpj1983 2 years ago
I admire your courage and appreciate what your doing for this county of ours... the United States of "Americans"..... God Bless You And Keep Up The Good Work..... Be careful and never go it alone....
mrrayco 2 years ago 2
Your a dumb-ass.........!!!
mrrayco 2 years ago
Good luck man. Sorry about that officer infringing your rights. A lot of us have been following the case and.
CatExplosion 2 years ago
Don't cops have certain physical standards? Why are there so many fat-ass cops? We don't need cops anyway. We need Nationalist vigilantes.
Death to pigs.
Helter Skelter will rise.
Exterminance uber alles.
IggyHazard 2 years ago
too bad your state is turning "blue"
jparish62 2 years ago
it appears the whole country turned "blue" last November (I bet a lot of people regret it now).
The worst part is being "red" wouldn't change anything (just MHO).
jrpj1983 2 years ago
is asking for ID harassment? if u have a gun and a permit, u are suppose to show it to an officer when asked. N.C. Gen. Stat. § 14-415.12A. that's no different than being asked for ID when you buy cigs or alcohol. should i then say, y r u asking for my license, i'm not driving a motor vehicle. how crazy does that sound? u show ur ID b/c it is the law. u show your gun permit b/c it is the law. i would hope that the cop does ask if some nut w/o a permit is walking around with a gun.
pq1117u2009 2 years ago
The statute you cited says nothing of the sort.
There is no permit required to OC and you must present your permit and ID if CONCEALING...
jrpj1983 2 years ago
I just noticed you set up a YouTube account on Nov. 2 and have only watched two videos and made one comment.
You went through all the trouble to get a YouTube acct so you could post on this video, then you post the wrong statute and make up laws about permits and ID requirements for OC.
That is HILARIOUS! LOL...ROFL...HA HA HA HA
jrpj1983 2 years ago