US is not so great.A kid born in aSwedish Ghetto can make it.Zlatan Ibrahimovich.Google.Anyone can make it anywhere,Frank Sinatra,Google.I know we can make it happen,yeah ...Chicago and Dialogue pt 1 and 2.Google.Your own lives .google.
@goober401 What message is that? That the world isn't perfect? It never will be.
There's rich and poor people and there always will be but what makes the United States great is UNLIKE some other countries even the kid born in the ghetto has a chance to make something of himself if he works hard and doesn't give in to the crime of the ghetto. You wouldn't see all this OCCUPY Bullshit if the economy was humming along like it usually does, things will get better.
@elvispresley718 Ultra Liberal Pseudo Hippie Lyrics?As Chicago said: We are for Revolution ,in any way and in any kind...then there was a bassplayer who took over and now ,,,Peter Cetera is not a revolutionary man,rather a mainstream pop player/composer.The first album was revolutionary,in many ways,The lyrics but also the music,the second sounds like Stan Kenton ,,the third is a wishywashy with Lowdown as a highlight... all double Albums .
@elvispresley718 I know it sounds so fkng silly,but the ultra hippie sound soon changed to ultra ...ever read "Then The World Shrugged".by Ayn Rand?.I have,and I really adored Galt...Just break free.Give the Gvmt a finger and be on your own.Wonderful utopia I thought then,a Dystopia now .If you care about anybody,then you are not as selfish a person you posted .
@MrAladinsane56 that is the danger of the technology theres no way this generation will be able to do anything but text each other and watch other people doing things
I was a kid in Chicagoland when this song came out ('72). Click on Show More to see the lyrics. Have things changed so little. "Don't it make you angry, when war is dragging on?" Reply:"Well I hope the President knows what he's into, I don't know. Oooh, I just don't Know".
The guitar is in the background like you only recorded it on one channel. That solo is on of the best ever. Sorry, I still appreciate you taking the time to post.
horns are way to up in the mix, almost to much over the vocals and even Terrys guitar, it was like we did not get them out front enough the first time and now we are.
Man! When I hear this I wish I could turn back the hands of time..at least for the music. I wish I could hear it all fresh once again! God bless Chicago!
@willc854 They should be playing this song today and see how it relates to people today. People need to think a little more about what is going on around them. Glad others think the same.
CHICAGO V BABY!!! I grew up with this and it still sounds as good today as it did then!!! There is a 100 things going on at once in this song.....try finding that in today`s music let alone a good message!!! R.I.P TERRY!!! WE MISS YOU!!!
Chicago has had many great hits, but this song and Beginnings should be considered all time classics ranked right up there with Zepplin;s Stairway to Heaven, Eagle's Hotel California, and Skinnard's Freebird.
TAKE IT FROM ME...1975 STATE STAGE BAND COMPETITION "OUTSTANDING SOLOIST" (Me and my Trombone!!) Hahahaha!!! MAN, I LOVED THIS BAND...TRIPPLE-TONGUEING RULES!!!! LOL........This song is heard best on vinyl, really loud, with a great component sound system like "back in the day". EXCELLENT SOCIAL COMMENTARY ADDRESSING APATHY AND DISREGARD......LISTEN TO THE TOPICS!!!!!.....THE MORE THINGS CHANGE, THE MORE THEY STAY THE SAME!!! Got it on CD now...will blast it out of my car speakers tomorrow!!!!
@Jacoisms Yup: they had a lot to say with this one. Ageless conversation...still pertinent today. I think I heard this one on an album I bought in Jr. HS: just as I was becoming aware of social consciousness and the cultural movements that were going on at the time. As a young brass instrumentalist, I (and many kids back then) were SOOO inspired by this band. Loved the "full-on" jazz-rock fusion of their first albums (especially CTA)...not so much the commercial sound when they went "pop".
Two ironies I have never been able to get out of my head: Chicago's hit before Terry Kath shot himself "Baby, What a Big Surprise"-hit after his death "I Am Alive Again"; the Supremes last hit before they split up "Someday We'll Be Together". Isn't life funny?
I see a lot of comments about what a great guitarist Terry Kath was, and I agree that he was, but I would rate Lindsay Buckingham higher. I could listen to "Landslide" on a loop and never get tired of it.
radiorick...if they are not in the Rock HOF its because after Chicago 5 they sacrificed their souls on the altar of commercialism and produced the mass of gooey love songs they are famous for today ...instead of the cutting edge jazz/rock work they did on Chicago 3 (IMO their best album)
Music and lyrics were written by the keyboard player (and one of the founding members) Robert Lamm. I think the song is still relevant 39 years later.
Who is the author or such poetry...this is the dialogue we are still having only now it's an argument. Seldom is human nature expressed so eloquently AND so succinctly.
I don't believe any thinking person can explain why Chicago is not in the Hall of Fame. But I can't explain why Yes, the Moody Blues, Carol King (as a performer), Carly Simon, Diana Ross, John Fogerty, Ringo Starr or Steve Winwood are not in there either.
@vctrianfem Chicago is not in the 'Hall of Shame' because of a decades-long feud with Jann Wenner. James Guercio was angry over not being on the cover of Rolling Stone in the 70's and subsequent nasty remarks were made about the magazine. Supposedly Peter Cetera said that when he goes to the bathroom, he wipes his a** with it. Deal breaker!
@bze2nlz1 Thank you for sharing this. I wasn't aware of this animosity. Saying that you use Rolling Stone as a wipe surely would not help your cause, but then if I'd sold 38 million albums I wouldn't think I would need to stroke an ego to be selected for a musical hall of fame.
@vctrianfem Chicago is just one example out of many dozens of performers who've also been snubbed over the years. Wenner and his 'committee' have all the control. It's all political...has nothing to do with talent. Time to put Wenner out of business!
I agree this song still applies today. 40 years later and the problems of this country still persist from the same origins. I also agree this was their best work as Terry was as great a guitar player as their ever was. I also agree that Chicago as a band suffered artistically when Terry died. Great posts as it is so nice that we can still discuss and form our opinions based on music that was made so long ago in a land not so far away. Peace
What happened to this country? People and bands like Chicago use to speak out aginst war and injustice. This is one of their best for sure. Cetera is one one the most underrated bassists ever. Kath could play from one end of the fret board to the other all day long. Saw them twice in Seattle. Chicago Transit Authority is one one the greatest discs of all time. at least in my opinion.
What happened to this country? People and bands like Chicago use to speak out aginst war and injustice. This is one of their best for sure. Cetera is one one the most underrated bassists ever. Kath could play from one end of the fret board to the other all day long. Saw them twice in Seattle. Chicago Transit Authority is one one the greatest discs of all time. at least in my opinion
@MrMikey1109 I'm sorry, trickdarking, for the statement bands used to speak out. I was in the moment and just didn't consider all the groups that have something to say these days. I just don't get around like I used to and it was an uninformed comment .And you're right kringles4, just shut up and sing.
@MrMikey1109 You say that as though no bands speak out any more. Try Rise Against - Hero of War, Disparity by Design, Survivor Guilt, Prayer of the Refugee.
@MrMikey1109 Kath is probably playing bass here. He usually played bass on the songs he wrote, greatly enhancing Peter Cetera's reputation in the process.
..So, I see this fitting in today's politics; Obama is the student speaking, and we are the "voice of reason"..And the abrupt ending?? well, lets all hope that doesn't happen..
Hands down one of the Top 10 lyrics of the rock era! I think Chicago lost its way a bit after Terry's death, but even based on their output through just 1976, why they're not in the Rock and Roll HOF is unbelieveable. What Gil Hodges is to baseball, and Jerry Kramer is to football, so is Chicago to popular music.
"We felt at the time that the music was more important then establishing, like I say, a star personality in the band. I think that often it detracts from the contributions from all the members of the band. Terry was my best friend and a unique person, I think had he been in any other group he would have been the guts of the group.. we're a very complex chemistry in this band, every ingredient was essential, and Terry's ingredient was essential, so when we lost him, it was..." - Bobby Lamm '82
Thanks for posting... one of my favorites from the year I graduated HS. My name is Peter... a classmate who was my girlfriend then, her name is Terry... we always knew we could make it happen... we've been married now 37 years. Very sad what happened to Kath... I remember after his death, thinking about the last line he had in Part 1... "I was troubled by the shapes of things to come"
Terry Kath is the best musician in the history and I've heard them all... thats my conclusion.... o how I wish Dialogue was played on the Carnegie Hall album, it would have fit so nicely, I know that they wrote like the first 7 albums in maybe one year i think... it was something rediculous... Chicago was genius'... so happy that I was exposed to them at an early age.
Chicago is truly one of the all time great bands, they were groundbreaking with the way they combined brass and strings to rock n roll, this is one of their best songs, the lyrics and music will never be duplicated, Terry Kath was an innovator on the guitar, I miss his work so much even today. Wish there were bands that still made music like this.
One of the Chicago's greatest songs, I always like this song no matter it is in the 70's, 80's or 90's. Now my son Wilfrid is 21 years old and I recommend this song to him.
@rbertagopetah13 you are correct in regard to songwriting being a lost art, nowadays it seems like all you have to do is put a few profanity laced songs in the record stores and this poorly influenced generation of youths will make them fly off the shelves - they don't know what it's like to listen to music that has meaning !!!
Those of us who grew-up listening to this song in high school still believe in what it's about, and also still believe it's possible no matter what. Yes, some of Chicago's best work (and probably their last good album, though VI was listenable).
Thanks for posting this - I had forgotten just how awesome Chicago was while Katz was alive...and as a Baby Boomer I am ashamed at how we've losted the ideals expressed in the song. I guess the roles Katz & Cetera assumed while recording this were prescient - those who question will be no more, while those who accept the status quo will prosper. I weep for those who come after us...
@radiorickyp Because they, along with the Moody Blues and very few others, would have to STEP DOWN to the level that would get thm into the RRHF! On another note it is amazing how timeless these lyrics are.
@RadioRickyP: I can answer your question re: the reason 'Chicago' has not yet been inducted into the R&R Hall-of-Fame ~ but you might not like the answer... let me know.
@radiorickyp /Chicago isnt in the Rock and Roll hall of fame because the record company execs are idiots, after Terry Kath died,Pete Cetera left ,and Danny Serfine a founding member and great drummer was kicked out by the guy who joined the band from all places California ,the band hasnt had a hit..you might say,well...some songs actually did something,yeah, cause they got some weak singer who tried to sound like Pete Cetera and we see the long term effect, no hits since they left.get it?
We baby boomers are a bunch of hypocrites! We go and constantly accuse young people today for having utter disrespect for older people but we forget how much we trashed and insulted older people too. If you study ancient greece history you will find writings that documented that the older generation in their time were running down the younger generation. Nothing has changed in humanity over thousands of years.
@BBQFanNo1: I too am a BabyBoomer~ w/ a World History MS, w/ concentration on Greek & Roman civ. Plz don't lump me into a single category by calling us all hypocrites; you don't know me. While some Boomers 'regressed' it doesn't mean we ALL left our youthful spirit in the 60's. To call me a hypocrite, simply because of the era I was born, is no better than saying "19 Muslims terrorized the USA" therefore ALL Muslims are terrorists. That's wrong-and so is bunching all Bommers together.
@unclejeffj Hey we have bit off a lot of people too. You are with respect part correct. The media does give our generation a bad name and rap. Not all baby boomers are chickenhawks either. That's poison PR put out in the media too. We love our male and female troops and all people contributing on duty. The cancer with PR and false info that creates fear is that it has everybody fighting against each other including domestic civilians. con't...
@unclejeffj Dick Cheney had the famous quote"The way to gain control over the world mass public is to create fear" To create by any means of any medium such as the media will complete the perfect agenda of World Government and World Police State. We have only seen the beginning of this in the late 20th Century and early 21st Century.
@BBQFanNo1 i agree with you..i am 58 yrs old....when i was a teenager i thought i knew everything and didnt listen to my elders much..i was suppose to marry the girl up the street....no thanks.....ill find my own wife ty very much lol
@wrp54 You look like the words from the conservative old fart people from the 1930's and 1940's who in the 1950's that were predicting in 1956 that Rock and Roll music would be dead within 10 years. How fuckin' wrong the old fart shits were. The anti establishment movement was the best that happened for us. Why don't you lay off the younger people and let them be creative. We were them too!
We had so much energy and inspiration for the hope of a bright future in the 60's, we fought so hard for what was right, seems like we got tired fat and lazy, myself included, when I see the way our young people trample over the civil rights we fought for it makes me want to sit down and cry, I hope they don't have to start all over.
One of my all time favorites. The words to this song are timeless. If we could all take the time and care about more then ourselves and what others think of us, money, big house, clothes, cars,etc.... It's to the point there is nothing man can make left to buy! So we buy kids and a nanny! Travel the world say look what I did! Isn't this a nice family. Then drive by the kids starving on our streets! Am I the only one who sees this? OK off my soapbox
@ggrm420 Man, and especially Americans, are too fucking vain to care about amyone but themselves. It's a shame that the ideals this song, and the time it came out, exemplified, are long gone. The people that used to feel this way when they were young are the same people that are driving this country to the brink of extinction.
@rick36012 I am not sure what era you are from, but I agree with you about the desire during the Nam age...people were more willing to fight for what was right to make a better world for everyone...although, we are also at fault for the kids in these times, because we raised the "me generation"..our parents gave us the values we have about others.
@rick36012 why just maericans? You judge three billion people just because you see one shitty president? Didnt you realize this song was made by Americans? Im an American and I take offense to that!!!
@rick36012 -- Listen you pitiful bigot, your opinion is worthless because it is full of PURE, uneducated bias instead of facts! The majority of Americans DO NOT want the government we have had for the past several years. Regardless of where you come from, would it be fair to STEREOTYPE you for what YOU have absolutely no REAL control over? Quit spewing trash when you have no idea what you are talking about. Praise Chicago the band for it's awesome music instead of spreading lies and foolishness.
@8secondBusa Read my post with minimal effort to comprehend it. Where is there bigotry? Uneducated bias by stating today's American youth is too busy playing video games and watching reality TV to protest the government from 2000-2008? That's the government that needed to be protested Today's little darlings don't have the intestinal fortitude to protest. No idea what one's talking about? You are obviously the poster child for that sad situation.
@rick36012 -- I read your response to another person's post with complete comprehension. Perhaps you simply used wrong wording to get your point across. The response from me to you was because of your stereotyping ALL Americans, which isn't a fair assessment in the least. Nowhere in your earlier post (reply) did you mention anything about reality tv and video games. When you post something, don't expect us to get into your brain and know what you REALLY mean without stating such. Well wishes---
Terry and Peter goin back and forth
newspapertaxis1 2 days ago
A personal anthem of mine. Good stuff!
jakers1517 1 week ago
US is not so great.A kid born in aSwedish Ghetto can make it.Zlatan Ibrahimovich.Google.Anyone can make it anywhere,Frank Sinatra,Google.I know we can make it happen,yeah ...Chicago and Dialogue pt 1 and 2.Google.Your own lives .google.
69MC97gc 2 weeks ago
This song goes hard. Absolutely love it
spenzalii 3 weeks ago
CHICAGO died with Terry Kath....they never were the same.
455Transam 1 month ago
@455Transam yer right about that those ballds in the eighties made me sick
elvispresley718 1 month ago
@455Transam Try spreading the message anyway, listen to this song.
goober401 3 weeks ago in playlist great music
@goober401 What message is that? That the world isn't perfect? It never will be.
There's rich and poor people and there always will be but what makes the United States great is UNLIKE some other countries even the kid born in the ghetto has a chance to make something of himself if he works hard and doesn't give in to the crime of the ghetto. You wouldn't see all this OCCUPY Bullshit if the economy was humming along like it usually does, things will get better.
455Transam 3 weeks ago
He also hopes to keep a steady high.
Thadesgal 1 month ago
ezt a zenét lopta el Presser Gábor gátlástalanul........
MondTeCarlo 2 months ago
Nice upload, thanks!
KayAichJay 2 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
You mean 4 ,a double LP Live recorded in NYC,
69MC97gc 2 months ago
Oh, timeless!
Amy06830 3 months ago 4
i really like there music but the ultra-liberal pseudo hippie lyrics sound really ridiculous to me now
elvispresley718 3 months ago
@elvispresley718 Ultra Liberal Pseudo Hippie Lyrics?As Chicago said: We are for Revolution ,in any way and in any kind...then there was a bassplayer who took over and now ,,,Peter Cetera is not a revolutionary man,rather a mainstream pop player/composer.The first album was revolutionary,in many ways,The lyrics but also the music,the second sounds like Stan Kenton ,,the third is a wishywashy with Lowdown as a highlight... all double Albums .
69MC97gc 2 months ago
@69MC97gc revolution against what? a system that allowed them to prosper and not have dreary jobs?
elvispresley718 2 months ago
Still sound just right to me.
TheStubailey 1 month ago
@elvispresley718 I know it sounds so fkng silly,but the ultra hippie sound soon changed to ultra ...ever read "Then The World Shrugged".by Ayn Rand?.I have,and I really adored Galt...Just break free.Give the Gvmt a finger and be on your own.Wonderful utopia I thought then,a Dystopia now .If you care about anybody,then you are not as selfish a person you posted .
69MC97gc 1 month ago
@69MC97gc i agree totally
elvispresley718 1 month ago
@69MC97gc "Atlas Shrugged"----Rand was brilliant, but not always right----unlike Terry's guitar.
philipose66 2 weeks ago
I cried when I first heard this song... and I cry today!
techreptdh 3 months ago 2
@techreptdh Me too. I fear we've forgotten. And I fear our children never knew, how easy it is to become complacent.
MrAladinsane56 2 months ago in playlist Chicago 2
@MrAladinsane56 that is the danger of the technology theres no way this generation will be able to do anything but text each other and watch other people doing things
elvispresley718 1 month ago
I was a kid in Chicagoland when this song came out ('72). Click on Show More to see the lyrics. Have things changed so little. "Don't it make you angry, when war is dragging on?" Reply:"Well I hope the President knows what he's into, I don't know. Oooh, I just don't Know".
ETBrownsfan 3 months ago
The message in the meaningful lyrics is applicable to the nations worldwide, not America alone.A superb piece of music.
NANDIKHANNA 3 months ago 3
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great chicago song, kath gave the band its soul, a great era, before cetera & the rest sold out
SuperRidge39 3 months ago
great chicago song, kath gave the band its soul, agreat time before cetera & the rest sold out
SuperRidge39 3 months ago 2
Classic perfection.
probrojeffro 3 months ago
@probrojeffro absolutely!! no one around that can touch these guys. early Chicago was always the best IMO
fallenrocker100 3 months ago
i'm with ya, barefoot
Just1Listen 3 months ago
Ahhh,,old Chicago,,thanks for posting
Handyman1714 3 months ago
The guitar is in the background like you only recorded it on one channel. That solo is on of the best ever. Sorry, I still appreciate you taking the time to post.
jrogers4072 3 months ago
@jrogers4072 Search soundcloud for Dialogue or Terry Kath. You may be surprised.
jhnstn1 1 month ago
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@jrogers4072 Search soundcloud for Dialogue or Terry Kath. You may be surprised.
jhnstn1 1 month ago
Two people didnt make it happen
canilive0102 4 months ago
Great Chicago classic. All is well.
takemeback2 4 months ago
meant roberts guitar
midlocal 4 months ago
horns are way to up in the mix, almost to much over the vocals and even Terrys guitar, it was like we did not get them out front enough the first time and now we are.
midlocal 4 months ago
@midlocal sounds the same as the original to me... maybe it's your stereo system. lol
prober45 4 months ago
Man! When I hear this I wish I could turn back the hands of time..at least for the music. I wish I could hear it all fresh once again! God bless Chicago!
oldmantook1 4 months ago
so sad that we did so little to "make it happen" to "save the children" - this tells the tale, that we were satisfied to "keep a steady high"
kwgthacher 5 months ago 2
this is a remix as the horns did not have the clarity and stick out front in the original
midlocal 5 months ago
@midlocal sounds the same to me as the version on the Chicago V LP.
BigSailorRobT 5 months ago 3
seems that this song is ESPECIALLY TRUE TODAY...40 years later, and still on the mark
willc854 5 months ago 12
@willc854 They should be playing this song today and see how it relates to people today. People need to think a little more about what is going on around them. Glad others think the same.
goober401 4 weeks ago
CHICAGO V BABY!!! I grew up with this and it still sounds as good today as it did then!!! There is a 100 things going on at once in this song.....try finding that in today`s music let alone a good message!!! R.I.P TERRY!!! WE MISS YOU!!!
DRpretorius39 5 months ago
to the new 20 somethings - songs that mean it all
doorah1948 6 months ago
why can't the US get back to this thinking?
dancefan62 6 months ago
@dancefan62 Why indeed? Yeesh, I never got away from it, myself!!!
RoyFive 5 months ago
This is by far the best piece of Cookie anywhere way to go big fella
ruttingbull 6 months ago in playlist chicago
Terry Kath WAILING opposite the fat horns! Does it get any better?
if66was99 6 months ago 3
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koter1 6 months ago
Chicago has had many great hits, but this song and Beginnings should be considered all time classics ranked right up there with Zepplin;s Stairway to Heaven, Eagle's Hotel California, and Skinnard's Freebird.
koter1 6 months ago
I miss Terry Kath's soul.
cowboybebobb 6 months ago
Keep a steady high.....
birdofprey51 6 months ago
This song takes you on a journey...you`ll never find that in music today my friends!!! R.I.P. Terry Kath!
DRpretorius39 6 months ago
i love terry kaths voice what a sexy guy how sad to not have him any more
wildthing3722 6 months ago 2
rock & roll hall of fame
music lyrics >worth fame!
yalecheerleder 7 months ago
TAKE IT FROM ME...1975 STATE STAGE BAND COMPETITION "OUTSTANDING SOLOIST" (Me and my Trombone!!) Hahahaha!!! MAN, I LOVED THIS BAND...TRIPPLE-TONGUEING RULES!!!! LOL........This song is heard best on vinyl, really loud, with a great component sound system like "back in the day". EXCELLENT SOCIAL COMMENTARY ADDRESSING APATHY AND DISREGARD......LISTEN TO THE TOPICS!!!!!.....THE MORE THINGS CHANGE, THE MORE THEY STAY THE SAME!!! Got it on CD now...will blast it out of my car speakers tomorrow!!!!
blondwiththewind 7 months ago
@blondwiththewind
Looks like you got the message loud and clear! The words of then are just as real now...
Jacoisms 6 months ago 2
@Jacoisms Yup: they had a lot to say with this one. Ageless conversation...still pertinent today. I think I heard this one on an album I bought in Jr. HS: just as I was becoming aware of social consciousness and the cultural movements that were going on at the time. As a young brass instrumentalist, I (and many kids back then) were SOOO inspired by this band. Loved the "full-on" jazz-rock fusion of their first albums (especially CTA)...not so much the commercial sound when they went "pop".
blondwiththewind 6 months ago
This was our class song. Class of '73
Musk 7 months ago 3
lyrics~ nobody takes the time to listen.
cornball918 7 months ago 2
Two ironies I have never been able to get out of my head: Chicago's hit before Terry Kath shot himself "Baby, What a Big Surprise"-hit after his death "I Am Alive Again"; the Supremes last hit before they split up "Someday We'll Be Together". Isn't life funny?
vctrianfem 7 months ago
I see a lot of comments about what a great guitarist Terry Kath was, and I agree that he was, but I would rate Lindsay Buckingham higher. I could listen to "Landslide" on a loop and never get tired of it.
vctrianfem 7 months ago
We called it "Vintage Rock" at the time.
MultiVideohelp 7 months ago
Cetera once told rolling stone that "we cringe every time we hear the term jazz-rock...we're a pop band."
I know I cringed when I read that...and Jan Wenner did too I betcha...
Jan Wenner- Rolling Stone- R&R Hall Of Fame
that'll leave a mark
I hate hippies but Chicago didn't help their case much...;-)
As much as I love Chicago the real problem is that Terry Kath is so underappreciated. He's the best guitarist in my life time.
cornholiofromtitica 7 months ago 3
radiorick...if they are not in the Rock HOF its because after Chicago 5 they sacrificed their souls on the altar of commercialism and produced the mass of gooey love songs they are famous for today ...instead of the cutting edge jazz/rock work they did on Chicago 3 (IMO their best album)
christrfr 7 months ago 3
Music and lyrics were written by the keyboard player (and one of the founding members) Robert Lamm. I think the song is still relevant 39 years later.
hooeybrown 8 months ago 3
@hooeybrown Yes, very relevant
KDelphi 8 months ago
Who is the author or such poetry...this is the dialogue we are still having only now it's an argument. Seldom is human nature expressed so eloquently AND so succinctly.
klingho77er 8 months ago
Great song!
JimBozeman1956 8 months ago
A great tune, great musicianship, serious lyrics, awesome arrangement. Chicago was in a class by themselves.
frlouie 8 months ago
one of my favorite chicago songs have the second verse as my ring tone what a great band
musicman257 9 months ago
I don't believe any thinking person can explain why Chicago is not in the Hall of Fame. But I can't explain why Yes, the Moody Blues, Carol King (as a performer), Carly Simon, Diana Ross, John Fogerty, Ringo Starr or Steve Winwood are not in there either.
vctrianfem 9 months ago
@vctrianfem Chicago is not in the 'Hall of Shame' because of a decades-long feud with Jann Wenner. James Guercio was angry over not being on the cover of Rolling Stone in the 70's and subsequent nasty remarks were made about the magazine. Supposedly Peter Cetera said that when he goes to the bathroom, he wipes his a** with it. Deal breaker!
bze2nlz1 7 months ago
@bze2nlz1 Thank you for sharing this. I wasn't aware of this animosity. Saying that you use Rolling Stone as a wipe surely would not help your cause, but then if I'd sold 38 million albums I wouldn't think I would need to stroke an ego to be selected for a musical hall of fame.
vctrianfem 7 months ago
@vctrianfem Chicago is just one example out of many dozens of performers who've also been snubbed over the years. Wenner and his 'committee' have all the control. It's all political...has nothing to do with talent. Time to put Wenner out of business!
bze2nlz1 7 months ago
@bze2nlz1 Rolling Stone mag sold out a long time ago - sad really.
tammy8023 7 months ago
I agree this song still applies today. 40 years later and the problems of this country still persist from the same origins. I also agree this was their best work as Terry was as great a guitar player as their ever was. I also agree that Chicago as a band suffered artistically when Terry died. Great posts as it is so nice that we can still discuss and form our opinions based on music that was made so long ago in a land not so far away. Peace
barefoot191 9 months ago 3
@barefoot191
What happened to this country? People and bands like Chicago use to speak out aginst war and injustice. This is one of their best for sure. Cetera is one one the most underrated bassists ever. Kath could play from one end of the fret board to the other all day long. Saw them twice in Seattle. Chicago Transit Authority is one one the greatest discs of all time. at least in my opinion.
MrMikey1109 8 months ago
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@barefoot191
What happened to this country? People and bands like Chicago use to speak out aginst war and injustice. This is one of their best for sure. Cetera is one one the most underrated bassists ever. Kath could play from one end of the fret board to the other all day long. Saw them twice in Seattle. Chicago Transit Authority is one one the greatest discs of all time. at least in my opinion
MrMikey1109 8 months ago
@MrMikey1109 I'm sorry, trickdarking, for the statement bands used to speak out. I was in the moment and just didn't consider all the groups that have something to say these days. I just don't get around like I used to and it was an uninformed comment .And you're right kringles4, just shut up and sing.
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MrMikey1109 8 months ago 13
@MrMikey1109 U Are so right!
Killa1949 6 months ago
@MrMikey1109 the greatest band of all time mikey i have every album love them with a passion!!! cheers buddy
TheSimonBoyd 6 months ago
@MrMikey1109 Now music is all about Pro war. Shootin people and getting into trouble. A change is coming and something wonderful is going to happen.
Thadesgal 5 months ago 2
@MrMikey1109 Three M's killed this vibe for a generation: MtV, Madonna, Materialism. But now people are fighting back!
BrickLaneBetty 4 months ago
@MrMikey1109 You say that as though no bands speak out any more. Try Rise Against - Hero of War, Disparity by Design, Survivor Guilt, Prayer of the Refugee.
trickdarking 4 months ago
@MrMikey1109 Kath is probably playing bass here. He usually played bass on the songs he wrote, greatly enhancing Peter Cetera's reputation in the process.
1tbo 3 months ago
@1tbo I wondered if it was Terry, as well. Sounds like him.
sindilee 2 days ago
@MrMikey1109 my response being a conservative, just shut up and sing......love this song and no offense.
kringles4 3 months ago
This song applies always, I did a full research paper on this song!
upyanuts 9 months ago
How many people agree this song applies today as well????
JennaP46 9 months ago
..So, I see this fitting in today's politics; Obama is the student speaking, and we are the "voice of reason"..And the abrupt ending?? well, lets all hope that doesn't happen..
rfck450 10 months ago
Chicago was such a great band when Terry Kath was still singing, before they became a Cetera-driven wimp rock band
SpocksBrain425 10 months ago 2
@SpocksBrain425 You've got that right.
frlouie 8 months ago
Chicago was one of the best rock groups the horns is what set them apart.
endless441 10 months ago
when i was 14,take me back to Chicago!
82768916 10 months ago
Dedicated to the sheeple of America- say goodbye to your once great country
freedom013102 10 months ago
Hands down one of the Top 10 lyrics of the rock era! I think Chicago lost its way a bit after Terry's death, but even based on their output through just 1976, why they're not in the Rock and Roll HOF is unbelieveable. What Gil Hodges is to baseball, and Jerry Kramer is to football, so is Chicago to popular music.
caljees 10 months ago
"We felt at the time that the music was more important then establishing, like I say, a star personality in the band. I think that often it detracts from the contributions from all the members of the band. Terry was my best friend and a unique person, I think had he been in any other group he would have been the guts of the group.. we're a very complex chemistry in this band, every ingredient was essential, and Terry's ingredient was essential, so when we lost him, it was..." - Bobby Lamm '82
ekahiway 11 months ago
Thanks for posting... one of my favorites from the year I graduated HS. My name is Peter... a classmate who was my girlfriend then, her name is Terry... we always knew we could make it happen... we've been married now 37 years. Very sad what happened to Kath... I remember after his death, thinking about the last line he had in Part 1... "I was troubled by the shapes of things to come"
ekahiway 11 months ago
I just NEVER get tired of hearing this song ~ a fine piece of musical art!
unclejeffj 11 months ago
They were great because they really studied music instead of today where they study ripping everyone else off.
FreeClassicFlix 11 months ago
@FreeClassicFlix Good point. They were professionals, in every best sense of the word.
frlouie 8 months ago
I love this song especially the guitar into...I even draw a cartoon about it...oh about 20 years ago lol
TheUrukhai1 11 months ago
Terry Kath is the best musician in the history and I've heard them all... thats my conclusion.... o how I wish Dialogue was played on the Carnegie Hall album, it would have fit so nicely, I know that they wrote like the first 7 albums in maybe one year i think... it was something rediculous... Chicago was genius'... so happy that I was exposed to them at an early age.
upyanuts 11 months ago 2
@upyanuts: REALLY?? You've heard them ALL? Like Mozart? Lennon? Lil Stevie? Gershwin? Bach? Flemming? Strummer?
unclejeffj 11 months ago
THEY ARE AND WILL ALWAYS BE THE BEST BAND EVER !!!
classicrockdrumming 11 months ago
Chicago is truly one of the all time great bands, they were groundbreaking with the way they combined brass and strings to rock n roll, this is one of their best songs, the lyrics and music will never be duplicated, Terry Kath was an innovator on the guitar, I miss his work so much even today. Wish there were bands that still made music like this.
dschom5 11 months ago
nearly 40 years later and has much changed? We still have a huge social divide in which one group doesn't understand the other one.
izzonj 1 year ago 3
@izzonj "one group doesn't understand the other one" WHAT !? You don't really mean that , do you ?
THE RICH EXPLOITS THE WEAKNESS OF THE POOR - they always have, and always will !
They sure as h*ll understand the situation - that's their might.
"The LOVE OF MONEY is the root of all kinds of evil" 1 Tim 6:10
"whoever loves wealth is never satisfied" Eccl. 5:10 - - There was a VISION in late -60s/early -70s : a Vision of a Change of Heart of Mankind !
> Matthew 7:12 < !! Look it up !!!
buildelectriccarsnow 11 months ago
This is till so relevant Mister Socialconscience v.Mister I Dont Really Care....I get political on facebook,and people get mad at me....!!
sofieann59 1 year ago
@sofieann59 yeah keep going and don't worry I see the starvation in the city i'm living
JOHNSTIER23 11 months ago
they aren't in the hall of fame?????????......that is pathetic!
iceman169able 1 year ago
Real Music
ngml320 1 year ago
Yeah, we can make it HA HA HA HA
raelkids 1 year ago
I`ll never get sick of this song....this IS music!
DRpretorius39 1 year ago
Listen folks. we CAN make it happen.
ottlakerambler 1 year ago
I will specially dedicate this great Chicago song to my old pal Christina Choy Chee Foong in Singapore: Chris, this song is all about me!
allenchenn 1 year ago
One of the Chicago's greatest songs, I always like this song no matter it is in the 70's, 80's or 90's. Now my son Wilfrid is 21 years old and I recommend this song to him.
allenchenn 1 year ago
They got in and got out with their message in 7:13 seconds! (Songwriting is a lost art)
rbertagopetah13 1 year ago 22
@rbertagopetah13 you are correct in regard to songwriting being a lost art, nowadays it seems like all you have to do is put a few profanity laced songs in the record stores and this poorly influenced generation of youths will make them fly off the shelves - they don't know what it's like to listen to music that has meaning !!!
awamhf 11 months ago
@rbertagopetah13 You are so very TRUE!!!
Killa1949 6 months ago
@rbertagopetah13
MsDago1 5 months ago
@rbertagopetah13 One of Chicago's best songs, only station that played it was WLS. I bet thats Jim Guercio playing bass!
MsDago1 5 months ago
@765tony Terry Kath shot himself with a gun loaded with blanks, thinking he wouldn't get hurt. Sad to say, he was wrong.
mesastorm 1 year ago
@mesastorm It had bullets my friend.Was an accident..Grew up next to the kaths here in chicago..
richiek1000 1 year ago
My favorite Chicago song hands down!! THANKS for posting!
DRpretorius39 1 year ago
@765tony ---terry kath-- r.i.p. terry!!!!!
DRpretorius39 1 year ago
Sarah Palin's favorite song..... (Me sarcastic!lolololololo!) Good rockin, and thank you!
Legolas2112 1 year ago
Those of us who grew-up listening to this song in high school still believe in what it's about, and also still believe it's possible no matter what. Yes, some of Chicago's best work (and probably their last good album, though VI was listenable).
n6bhu 1 year ago 3
This is a great Song!
clifbuel 1 year ago
God damn I feel like an idiot - KATH, not KATZ...
mnchipster 1 year ago
Thanks for posting this - I had forgotten just how awesome Chicago was while Katz was alive...and as a Baby Boomer I am ashamed at how we've losted the ideals expressed in the song. I guess the roles Katz & Cetera assumed while recording this were prescient - those who question will be no more, while those who accept the status quo will prosper. I weep for those who come after us...
mnchipster 1 year ago
This is by far their greatest work....Can someone explain to me just why Chicago is NOT in the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame ?? It's a travisty...
radiorickyp 1 year ago 40
@radiorickyp Because they, along with the Moody Blues and very few others, would have to STEP DOWN to the level that would get thm into the RRHF! On another note it is amazing how timeless these lyrics are.
RNParamedic03 1 year ago
@radiorickyp 100% agreed, I thought all these years they were in, damm shame.
kulditbeme 1 year ago
@RadioRickyP: I can answer your question re: the reason 'Chicago' has not yet been inducted into the R&R Hall-of-Fame ~ but you might not like the answer... let me know.
unclejeffj 1 year ago
@radiorickypAlthough you have not spelled the word travesty quite right, your opinion is 100% bang on from
where I sit.
17865329 10 months ago
@radiorickyp
There is no good explanation. Same with the Doobies.
jwmellott 8 months ago
@radiorickyp /Chicago isnt in the Rock and Roll hall of fame because the record company execs are idiots, after Terry Kath died,Pete Cetera left ,and Danny Serfine a founding member and great drummer was kicked out by the guy who joined the band from all places California ,the band hasnt had a hit..you might say,well...some songs actually did something,yeah, cause they got some weak singer who tried to sound like Pete Cetera and we see the long term effect, no hits since they left.get it?
MrStoney2011 6 months ago
@radiorickyp Because it is jann Wenner's hall and crap like Mandonna gets in.
BrickLaneBetty 6 months ago
@BrickLaneBetty jann wenner will not let the moody blues or ted nugent in and also rush
elvispresley718 1 month ago
Still their greatest song!!!
beautifulady2003 1 year ago
We baby boomers are a bunch of hypocrites! We go and constantly accuse young people today for having utter disrespect for older people but we forget how much we trashed and insulted older people too. If you study ancient greece history you will find writings that documented that the older generation in their time were running down the younger generation. Nothing has changed in humanity over thousands of years.
BBQFanNo1 1 year ago
@BBQFanNo1: I too am a BabyBoomer~ w/ a World History MS, w/ concentration on Greek & Roman civ. Plz don't lump me into a single category by calling us all hypocrites; you don't know me. While some Boomers 'regressed' it doesn't mean we ALL left our youthful spirit in the 60's. To call me a hypocrite, simply because of the era I was born, is no better than saying "19 Muslims terrorized the USA" therefore ALL Muslims are terrorists. That's wrong-and so is bunching all Bommers together.
unclejeffj 1 year ago
@unclejeffj Hey we have bit off a lot of people too. You are with respect part correct. The media does give our generation a bad name and rap. Not all baby boomers are chickenhawks either. That's poison PR put out in the media too. We love our male and female troops and all people contributing on duty. The cancer with PR and false info that creates fear is that it has everybody fighting against each other including domestic civilians. con't...
BBQFanNo1 1 year ago
@BBQFanNo1: OK Jarrod...
unclejeffj 1 year ago
@unclejeffj Dick Cheney had the famous quote"The way to gain control over the world mass public is to create fear" To create by any means of any medium such as the media will complete the perfect agenda of World Government and World Police State. We have only seen the beginning of this in the late 20th Century and early 21st Century.
BBQFanNo1 1 year ago
@BBQFanNo1 every generation scorns the next!
MelMelsNRich 1 year ago
@BBQFanNo1 i agree with you..i am 58 yrs old....when i was a teenager i thought i knew everything and didnt listen to my elders much..i was suppose to marry the girl up the street....no thanks.....ill find my own wife ty very much lol
woodroow2 1 year ago
No,I'm sorry. It was just sex,drugs and rock and roll! YOU are the youngins who have the future in your hands.DON'T WASTE IT! cc:1954
wrp54 1 year ago
@wrp54 You look like the words from the conservative old fart people from the 1930's and 1940's who in the 1950's that were predicting in 1956 that Rock and Roll music would be dead within 10 years. How fuckin' wrong the old fart shits were. The anti establishment movement was the best that happened for us. Why don't you lay off the younger people and let them be creative. We were them too!
BBQFanNo1 1 year ago
Every bit as meaningful today, as it was back then! Great song ~ thanx for posting!
unclejeffj 1 year ago
We used the 30 second intro to this for just about everything you can think of at our campus radio station back in the day.
jhnstn1 1 year ago
We had so much energy and inspiration for the hope of a bright future in the 60's, we fought so hard for what was right, seems like we got tired fat and lazy, myself included, when I see the way our young people trample over the civil rights we fought for it makes me want to sit down and cry, I hope they don't have to start all over.
bluestreakbuck 1 year ago
This song just makes me cry.
BrickLaneBetty 1 year ago
Damn! I haven't heard this in years ~ until tonight; it still holds up as one of Rock & Roll's best anthems EVER !!
unclejeffj 1 year ago 2
One of my all time favorites. The words to this song are timeless. If we could all take the time and care about more then ourselves and what others think of us, money, big house, clothes, cars,etc.... It's to the point there is nothing man can make left to buy! So we buy kids and a nanny! Travel the world say look what I did! Isn't this a nice family. Then drive by the kids starving on our streets! Am I the only one who sees this? OK off my soapbox
ggrm420 1 year ago
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@ggrm420 Man, and especially Americans, are too fucking vain to care about amyone but themselves. It's a shame that the ideals this song, and the time it came out, exemplified, are long gone. The people that used to feel this way when they were young are the same people that are driving this country to the brink of extinction.
rick36012 1 year ago 7
@rick36012 I am not sure what era you are from, but I agree with you about the desire during the Nam age...people were more willing to fight for what was right to make a better world for everyone...although, we are also at fault for the kids in these times, because we raised the "me generation"..our parents gave us the values we have about others.
Paulatomaszewski 1 year ago
@rick36012 why just maericans? You judge three billion people just because you see one shitty president? Didnt you realize this song was made by Americans? Im an American and I take offense to that!!!
ChrisisBass13 1 year ago
@rick36012 -- Listen you pitiful bigot, your opinion is worthless because it is full of PURE, uneducated bias instead of facts! The majority of Americans DO NOT want the government we have had for the past several years. Regardless of where you come from, would it be fair to STEREOTYPE you for what YOU have absolutely no REAL control over? Quit spewing trash when you have no idea what you are talking about. Praise Chicago the band for it's awesome music instead of spreading lies and foolishness.
8secondBusa 1 year ago 2
@8secondBusa Read my post with minimal effort to comprehend it. Where is there bigotry? Uneducated bias by stating today's American youth is too busy playing video games and watching reality TV to protest the government from 2000-2008? That's the government that needed to be protested Today's little darlings don't have the intestinal fortitude to protest. No idea what one's talking about? You are obviously the poster child for that sad situation.
rick36012 1 year ago
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8secondBusa 1 year ago
@rick36012 -- I read your response to another person's post with complete comprehension. Perhaps you simply used wrong wording to get your point across. The response from me to you was because of your stereotyping ALL Americans, which isn't a fair assessment in the least. Nowhere in your earlier post (reply) did you mention anything about reality tv and video games. When you post something, don't expect us to get into your brain and know what you REALLY mean without stating such. Well wishes---
8secondBusa 1 year ago