TPMtv: Sunday Show Roundup: Long Way To Go

[blunderbus21]

Obama and his minions are going to FORCE US into socialist medicine when they THEMSELVES HAVE REFUSED TO SIGN UP FOR THE SAME PLAN! OBAMA<SENATORS AND CONGRESS WILL KEEP THEIR CURRENT HEALTH COVERAGE WHILE WE pissants get the crap! Obama's own people told him that this HCP will bankrupt America. 12-20 illegal alliens do not deserve our hard earned money/free coverage! VOTE THEM OUT IN 2010!!! Democrats & Republicans that support this criminal act MUST GO! OUT IN 2010!!

[jasonsadventure]

wow jim demint is just lying outright.

he did not take a bad economy and make it worse. whose control is he "out of" his.  you, your radical right-wing friends and monied interest should be controlling obama?

it is you & yours jim that use false promises and bogus numbers... here's a few: break obama, greated as liberators, waterloo, mission accomplished, great job brownie

let's slow down = lets kill health care reform

jim demint = lies and the lying liars that tell them

[Smartassawhip]

Don't fall for all this bull crap.. if you want to read the bill for yourself so you don't have to rely on the media see my profile. I have a link to the bill in the comment section as well as several ways including phone numbers so you can contact your representatives. Thanks.

[masterdude787]

hahaha

poking and prodding is what i did to my friend before she became my gf

[EmperorAtahualpa]

Do you want to see Bill O'Reilly getting owned by the Dutch?

Watch this video:

/watch?v=sTPsFIsxM3w

[deadmeat343]

Sen Kent Conrad cant count to 51

[3star2nr]

Republicans do9nt want health care reform. Fuck bi partisan ship

[taoofmichael]

Right on 3star.

The Republicans want America to fail. They are unpatriotic traitors!!!

[thehoaxbuster]

uhh. other way around buddy.

[taoofmichael]

Oh yeah, sorry. I did get it backwards.

Republicans are unpatriotic traitors. They want America to fail.

[thehoaxbuster]

Here, let me help you out, since you still don't get it:

Nobody wants America to fail. The Democrats are being irresponsible with money and Republicans know it, but they aren't smart enough to come up with alternatives. But wait... one can. His name is Ron Paul.

[taoofmichael]

But where were the Republicans hollering "How are we going to pay for it?!!" When Bush wanted to start his 2 trillion dollar war?

Oh I get it. Spending money on bombing people in Iraq is okay. But spending money on health care for Americans is "SOCIALISM!!!"

Everybody sees you for what you are. Hypocritical fear-mongering hacks.

Irresponsible with money?!! Democrats? (Bill Clinton left us a surplus.)

Ron Paul is another hack.

[thehoaxbuster]

Because a lot of what you just said is in line with what Ron Paul believes (i.e. war, pseudo fiscal conservatives [Reagan, Bush, and W, with Clinton's surplus]), I doubt you've ever even read up or seen videos of Ron Paul. Therefore, you're the hack.

[micahgee]

you forgot some more adjectives,

how about:

Racist (comments made about Sotomayor alone)

Moronic (abstinence-only education)

Fundamentalist (George Bush's national day of prayer)

Murderous (Genocide in Iraq, a war of GOP's choice)

[3star2nr]

no its the rigght way where is the republican health care plan?

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[p00lman]

Look, stop this idiotic labeling of "unpatriotic," "un-American," and "anti-American." No American is any of those, and if they are, they've left the country and have no intention of looking back.

[RodgersRevolution]

I just read that home sales are at there highest in 8 years. Republicans hate the truth.

[dkkght46]

Would someone lock her up! What a friggin disgrace! If the lips are moving, she is lying and has absolutely no clue about what she speaks.....Time she went back to California and be put in a nursing home because she has dementia. That would mean under the new unhealthcare she would have to slide the hospice chute. Somebody throw a bucket of water on her, it worked on the wicked witch! Pelosi needs to get stimulated by someone and then maybe she will have something else besides scre**ng us

[almamatters2471]

the American media is pathetic, but not as pathetic as the people in Congress.

[mpost81]

I wish Nazi Pelosi would fall off the planet.

[p00lman]

Nothing more immature than wishing ill of those you disagree with.

[lamouchemorte]

Soon David Duke will and his friends will take over.

[junkforkaryn]

republicans want every american to make their own health decisions...oh unless you're terry shiavo (sp) or some other exploitable american who fits into your political game plan. we should ALL stop paying the insurance companies and switch our healthcare to the local ER. maybe that would wake these fuckers up.

[PharaohNineD]

We don't need our tax dollars to pay for anybodies free healthcare but the congress. Screw us in the name of us some more please.

[kelseywall]

Why is it that Republicans don't mind spending money on wars, but health care is EVIL?!?

[Richardgwm]

I hear there is a clause in the healthcare bill that requires everyone to worship Satan.

[marniespeaks]

Washington hates the American People,- they line their pockets, steal to create wars and give our hard earned savings to banks - they rush bills through to spy and take away our rights - they see us all as cattle to produce riches for them and take power. They see us as slaves.

They are now handing our live to for profit businesses whose sole purpose it is to maximize income and NOT provide health. watch?v=W-W035ADw0s

[TheSteelGeneral]

not Washington, but traitor Dems and RepubliKKKunts

[tonycapricorny]

Any time someone says "that's impossible," they are essential begging someone to prove them wrong. History his proven this again and again. Why do people keep saying "impossible" when it comes to passing legislation? We're not curing cancer; we're insuring the health care of a nation. Get behind it or step aside. It's gonna happen.

[DarkManS32]

It's amazing...

When Bush puts through both a Bailout and a Stimulus, Re(tard)publicans were all for it.

But now... -.-

[BigPurple121]

Maybe instead of a gov run health-insurance company, we should just regulate the shit out of existing insurance companies.

Making money off of people's ill health is morally wrong anyway

[boots920]

Let the market regulate costs and services. Run medical like Travel Insurance

- Government covers for basic (everyone pays for unforeseen medical , such as accidents ($100 per person per year ?)

- Taxpayers add on benefits that feel they need and pay premiums for coverage ?

The market place will regulate itself with supply and demand principle that would be reflected in the benefit premiums charged to the consumer.

Main thing is to keep it simple or everything goes into administration.

[TheSteelGeneral]

boots920' daddy no doubt works as some janitor at some HMO,'s and his job is first on the line when they ACTUALLY have to compete.

They're not scared of a govt that doesn't function, they're scared of a govt that DOES.

[boots920]

As soon as the government touches anything in the free market you know its going to be a disaster.

What entity hasn't the government touched that isn't a total clusterfuck.

Pick anyone, government touches it , turns into disaster.

[eric3141k]

technically they make money off peoples good health.

[bernlin2000]

agreed

[MrHelldogger]

Henry Gates just cost the President any chance he might have had getting The Dr. Mangele Act passed. Health care should be a states rights issue. Let the states decide and we'll see how well free health care works. Ask people in Mass. & Tenn how they like it.

[boots920]

Eligibility Requirements for (POTUS) Top Eagle

"Natural Born" and 35yrs of age, 14 years permanent residence.

Where's the Democratic party's paper work on Obama's Eligibility ?

Why would you trust any law if the Democrats can't even prove Obama is eligible to be (POTUS).

BANANA REPUBLIC !!!

[p00lman]

Should've thought about that last year. Good going.

[boots920]

Where's the paper work that the Democratic party did before they put Obama forward ?

If they didn't do any that makes them a Political Party in a Banana Republic.

If you haven't noticed yet the main stream only ridicules to divide and conquer the taxpayers (Propaganda)

[jakehr3]

well, i think you misunderstand something...the democratic party did not put Obama up to nomination. Obama put Obama up for nomination and the democrats said that he could be a representative of their party. as for the whole birth issue, it's been solved you just don't look for it. finally, i'm assuming you think that every president since nixon has been a puppet and no matter who would've been elected would of been a puppet as well so your whole issue over Obama's birth is a distraction

[boots920]

"The Democrats said he could be a representative of their party"

Where 's the paperwork on that acknowledgment ?

Or did they even bother ?

If Obama isn't eligible you have to go through the whole process again (election) because any law signed by Obama would be void.

[p00lman]

Nope. Obama's the US president.

[p00lman]

Should've asked about that paperwork a year ago before he was nominated.

[boots920]

They did but the court kept shutting them down ?? WTF...

[p00lman]

If this was a court case, then what was the case called?

[boots920]

Well just do a google and check it out, so many have been dismissed its getting ridiculous. Major Cook though, just google that one.

[p00lman]

No, that's your job. I'm asking you to defend your position with evidence. I'm not going hunting to find something that doesn't exist.

[p00lman]

I looked up Cook, and he seems like a nutjob. First he volunteered for the armed services, then he suddenly refuses to go and files a suit, claiming that Obama isn't a citizen. Why did he sign up in the first place?

[boots920]

He's not claiming Obama isn't a citizen, he's claiming that Obama isn't "Natural Born".

Therefore Obama can't be "Commander in Chief" and his orders would be illegal under international law.

[p00lman]

But he has no evidence, and furthermore he signed up in May and filed a lawsuit in July. Why did he sign up at all? Furthermore, why did he file a lawsuit and not just cancel his tour?

[boots920]

"But he has no Evidence" except the truth, truth stands alone.

Obama is Kenyan by Birth because in international law the fathers citizenship passes on to the child.

[p00lman]

You nutbag, there is no "international law." US law is that if you're born inside the US, you have US citizenship.

The "debate" is over. Grow the hell up.

[Realizalize]

know what ?

call your local security or intelligence bereau!

[p00lman]

It really doesn't matter, since on July 27, a House resolution containing language that affirmed that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii passed the House unanimously.

So this is and always has been a non-issue.

[p00lman]

And just in case you're confused, "unanimously" means even the Republicans voted for it - all of them.

[boots920]

...and in case you don't know what truth is:

"It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself." Thomas Jefferson

Obama being put forth as a candidate for (POTUS) is in error because he has Kenyan citizenship by birth.

He has to got through process to become a US citizen, naturalized.

[p00lman]

See my previous comment.

[boots920]

Obama isn't "Natural Born", his father was Kenyan, when a child is born of two countries you use the Father's citizenship to establish the citizenship of the child. To be (POTUS) only a "Natural Born" or US citizenship at birth is mandatory to meet one of the eligibility requirements.

Notice the media doesn't even explain basic requirements. (Total Spin of Error). Divide and Conquer - "birthers"

[TheZackFiler]

wait, why the father? I love this ......

[boots920]

Why the father because when you determine the citizenship of the child, the "Father's citizenship" supersedes the mother's.

That's why the citizenship of the parents is stated on the long form, so the citizenship of the child can be established.

Pretty basic...Obama has Kenyan citizenship by birth.

He's not "Natural Born".

[UltraSWG]

Citizenship of the parents only factors in when a child is born OUTSIDE the United States, as was the case with John McCain.

The 14th Amendment provides that any person born on United States territory and being subject to the jurisdiction thereof is considered a born U.S. citizen.

[boots920]

Nope "Natural Born" can't be interpreted that's why there's no definition.

McCain wasn't eligible either, they print and spin as the go.

POTUS eligibility requirements (US Constitution)

Do you see the 14 amendment mentioned anywhere ?

Yea keep on spinning it up now...what a joke...

USA = Banana Republic, where's the Democrats paperwork on Obama ? They didn't even bother.

[UltraSWG]

The requirements in the US Constitution do not define what "natural born" means. We can only go by a logical assumption of what the founding father's meant.

Considering that most of the founding fathers we first generation Americans, it is illogical to think that they would require the father of the US President to be an American Citizen.

The 14th Amendment defined what our modern definition of "natural born" is.

[boots920]

A Truth has no definition its not open to interpretation. A Truth must stand alone.

How do you ensure any future President has no conflict of interest with his Presidency . You put a TRUTH as a eligibility requirement.

How many flags (citizenships) should a leader swear allegiance to ? One only right ?

[p00lman]

That's always been the case and it still is.

Stop making baseless accusations and spreading hate.

[TheSteelGeneral]

TRUTH : you're as batty as rotten fruit, as one of $arah Failin' Palins retarded kids.

Repubs are traitors, therefor not real Americans. They sabotage govt, and they want it to fail. How patriotic is that?

[TheSteelGeneral]

boots920:

" the "Father's citizenship" supersedes the mother's."

What you think this is the 19th century??? Oh wait, you must be some escapee from such a Mormon styled harem, where 50 year old men fuck 17 year olds and call them "wife" ... all six of them.

I rest my case.

[Realizalize]

"Father's citizenship" supersedes the mother's.

whereas the mother is more valid from the start as the father could be the milk man.

remember the dude is likelly the father

and the other one mothr.

[p00lman]

US policy: born on US soil = US citizen.

That's all there is to it. There's no "international law." Unless you're born at sea or in fucking outer space, you are privy to the laws of a nation.

Get over it.

[boots920]

Born on US soil = US Citizen

Born on US soil with father's citizenship "Natural Born" US citizen.

Its Uncle Sam's child naturally no interpretation needed.

[p00lman]

That's exactly the same thing. And the United States Constitution requires that Presidents of the United States be natural born citizens of the United States.

So I'm glad you finally agree and you've given up this crusade to express your closet racism.

[boots920]

Its not the same thing buddy, you don't want a person in power that has a conflict of interest with citizenships.

"Natural Born US citizen" is different than a US citizen.

The reason the states is in such shamble is they don't even follow simple "rules of law". (US Constitution)

Looks at the US its no better than a Banana Republic.

[p00lman]

Listen nutbag, the constitution says "Presidents of the United States be natural born citizens of the United States." That conforms with what you said.

Every member of Congress and the Senate agreed that Obama is a natural born citizen. Every new network besides Fox found evidence. Hawaii confirmed it.

Why are you so desperate to see him removed from office?

[zzx2847]

It wouldn't be an issue if Obama's relatives said he was born in Kenya. No doubt.

[p00lman]

Why should they lie? Why would you prefer they lie? Are you so racist that you want him removed as president?

[boots920]

How many Taxpayin citizens voted on the bull crap ?

[p00lman]

What are you referring to?

[TheSteelGeneral]

@boots920: "Born on US soil = US Citizen"

Aha! So you agree that Obama is your President. I am glad. Try to learn MORE things, if that is possible with your inbreeding history and all that.

[boots920]

So Sorry Obama isn't Natural Born Obama , Kenyan by birth.

So now the media spins the error...birthers

[jakehr3]

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