Listen to me Brother, You have no right or any one else to remove evidance of the bible from the holy land. How dare you. WHat it that remained and it was what SParked an Idea in the next group! How dare you I say again. Repent and return what you have stolen. May you not have been the cause of a person missing a sign. In Jesus name I pray that you wash WANT from true belivers minds. Amen
If believers "watch and pray always they can ESCAPE ALL THESE THINGS (as described in Luke's account of the Olivet discourse) and stand before the Son of Man. Is. 26 states God pours His wrath on the inhabitants of the earth while believers are in their heavenly chambers (dwelling places/mansions) that Jesus described.
I Thes. 5:9, Rev. 6:17, I Thes. 1:10, Romans 5:8-10, John 14:1,2, Isaiah 26:19-21, and Luke 21:34-36 clearly teach that true believers are delivered "from the wrath to come" (7 year tribulation period as described in Rev. 6-19.
Also before making a STUPID comment please watch the ENTIRE VIDEO, and put on your critical thinking hat on, and forget what your deceiver preacher told you. BELIEVE THE BIBLE, not me, not anyone. Bottom line follow Jesus Christ and repent your sins because we are all sinners.
OK, the Bible states there will be a rapture, the topic here is: will it be a POST or PRE tribulation rapture. The satanic new age christian churches are telling their flocks to lay down and don't resist the tyrannical new world order governments, since all them good christians will be raptured before the bad stuff goes down. The Bible plainly states if you are TRUE Follower of Jesus you will escape the TRIBULATIONS of the ANTICHRIST... HERE ON Earth. Bottom line Resist EVIL- FOLLOW JESUS!
What are you going to do when the rapture occurs and those who you have led astray decide to hold you personally accountable for them being left behind? Better get your running shoes on.....lol.
@BelieversCentral1 Well friend I am going to tell them. THE BIBLE STATES THE TARES HAVE BEEN BOUND TO HELL AS JESUS STAES HIMSELF IN THE BIBLE, THEY SHOULD REJOICE.
Friend watch the video, I know it's long, but watch all of uit and take notes before responding with a stupid comment. That is all.
@BelieversCentral1 You shouldn't assume that if Jesus comes in Pre-trib that Post tribbers will miss it. Saved and washed in the blood has nothing to do with the interpretation of a different rapture time. Either Pre or Post we should always be ready for either one. And we should, at that time, when ever it is, meet each other in the air. Amen.
Matt 24:31 is not the Rapture. "heaven" in scripture can mean God's home, outer space, and the atmosphere of the earth. Gen. 1:8,15,20
Those indwelt by the Holy Spirit will be like Jesus when He calls, we won't need angels. These people are Tribulation saints, who are taken into the atmosphere by angels, as Jesus kills everyone who has taken the mark of the Beast, beneath them. Read The Spirit of Prophecy, by Daniel Knezacek, see thespiritofprophecy.ca
@dknezacek1 Pre-tribbers have missed the signs of the rapture, as found in Scripture, but this does not mean the Pre-trib rapture is wrong. Imminence is wrong. The Psalm 83 and Ezekiel 38-39 wars will come first, during the Church age, and are signs of the rapture, but it will still occur before Daniel's 70th week.
With the verse in Thessalonians, there are two ways that the pre-tribbers teach it. One is the way that he mentions, and the other teaching is that the part of the verse he's referring to is only referring to the Lord's return at the end of the tribulation, and not the rapture. That the rapture is mentioned further down when it talks about the withholder being taken out of the way before the man of sin can be revealed.
They've separated the rapture from the coming of the Lord to make it fit.
just because numerous prophesy teachers claim to teach something doesn't necessarily mean they are right.
I've seen jack change his understanding of something recently from a teaching he thought was right for the last 20 years.
Jesus himself spoke of his return after the trib and of our gathering at that same time. This is a hard one to accept but he never ever gives another order of things.
I guess he's the only one that's right on the topic the rapture. I guess Grant Jeffrey, Joe Mullenix, Donal Perkins, Hal Lindsey, John Hagee, Jack Vam Impe, Chuck Missler, Mike Bickle and a few more which I don't remember now are all wrong when it comes to the rapture theory. Hmmm, ok yeah well I'm still sticking to the pre-rap theory
The dead in Christ rise first,before the Rapture.When do the dead rise?Jesus said 4 times in John 6 that the Resurrection occurs on the LAST DAY,making the Rapture Post-Trib.See also Rev.20,1Cor15:22,23&24&Matt24:29,30&31.
if the tribulation happened in the first century than that would mean the rapture teaching by paul was covenant language he was using. he is not talking about physical bodies, he's talking about living in the presence of god. when jesus came in judgement in 70 a d.that was the consumation of the kingdom, now we have what adam lost, living in god's presence. that''s what they were waiting for, jesus to be reaveled in his kingdom.
the tribulation happened in the fist century, jesus said it would come on that generation, read josefus, every thing jesus said would happen, happened.
@TheRcurtis810 1 But in connection with the coming of our Lord Yeshua the Messiah AND our gathering together to meet him, we ask you, brothers, 2 not to be easily shaken in your thinking or anxious because of a spirit or a spoken message or a letter supposedly from us claiming that the Day of the Lord HAS ALREADY COME... (2 Thes 2:1-6)
@TheRcurtis810 Look at 2 Thes 2:1-6 again. "That day", when the Lord returns and we are gathered together (raptured) with Him are the same day. Therefore, since Y'shua has not yet returned, neither have we been raptured. YAH knew this false teaching would come and warned us in this scripture, "not to be easily shaken in your thinking or anxious because of a spirit or a spoken message or a letter supposedly from us claiming that the Day of the Lord HAS ALREADY COME..."
@Tracie725 Did you WATCH THE VIDEO IN ITS ENTIRETY? If you say yes, you are lying. Watch the video FIRST before replying with SUCH a WEAK citation. You wanna know something else.......... Bottom Line, Follow JESUS Christ Teachings (Ten Commandments) and repent your sinful Life. Jesus will Come when He Comes. THAT IS ALL!
Check out MidnightWatcher's Blogspot and read through a few of the articles in the "Theology and Eschatology" section, particularly the "Not Appointed Unto Wrath" and "The Revelation of Jesus Christ and the Rapture of the Church" articles. I challenge anyone to refute them.
@lebovskii That is what I am saying, obviously you did not watch video. The Bible states the tribulation occurs before the rapture. Therefore all Christians saved by Jesus Christ will leave and enter our heavenly bodies AFTER THE TRIBULATION.NOT BEFORE!
Listen to me Brother, You have no right or any one else to remove evidance of the bible from the holy land. How dare you. WHat it that remained and it was what SParked an Idea in the next group! How dare you I say again. Repent and return what you have stolen. May you not have been the cause of a person missing a sign. In Jesus name I pray that you wash WANT from true belivers minds. Amen
MrDaveJ420 20 hours ago
If believers "watch and pray always they can ESCAPE ALL THESE THINGS (as described in Luke's account of the Olivet discourse) and stand before the Son of Man. Is. 26 states God pours His wrath on the inhabitants of the earth while believers are in their heavenly chambers (dwelling places/mansions) that Jesus described.
AMRFLWI 1 day ago
I Thes. 5:9, Rev. 6:17, I Thes. 1:10, Romans 5:8-10, John 14:1,2, Isaiah 26:19-21, and Luke 21:34-36 clearly teach that true believers are delivered "from the wrath to come" (7 year tribulation period as described in Rev. 6-19.
AMRFLWI 1 day ago
Is it okay if I really don't care when the rapture is as long as I live Godly and be ready for it?
basicman101 2 days ago
@basicman101 of course its okay.
godislove633 2 days ago
Also before making a STUPID comment please watch the ENTIRE VIDEO, and put on your critical thinking hat on, and forget what your deceiver preacher told you. BELIEVE THE BIBLE, not me, not anyone. Bottom line follow Jesus Christ and repent your sins because we are all sinners.
JASONANDTRACI 2 days ago
OK, the Bible states there will be a rapture, the topic here is: will it be a POST or PRE tribulation rapture. The satanic new age christian churches are telling their flocks to lay down and don't resist the tyrannical new world order governments, since all them good christians will be raptured before the bad stuff goes down. The Bible plainly states if you are TRUE Follower of Jesus you will escape the TRIBULATIONS of the ANTICHRIST... HERE ON Earth. Bottom line Resist EVIL- FOLLOW JESUS!
JASONANDTRACI 2 days ago
What are you going to do when the rapture occurs and those who you have led astray decide to hold you personally accountable for them being left behind? Better get your running shoes on.....lol.
BelieversCentral1 2 days ago
@BelieversCentral1 Well friend I am going to tell them. THE BIBLE STATES THE TARES HAVE BEEN BOUND TO HELL AS JESUS STAES HIMSELF IN THE BIBLE, THEY SHOULD REJOICE.
Friend watch the video, I know it's long, but watch all of uit and take notes before responding with a stupid comment. That is all.
JASONANDTRACI 2 days ago
@BelieversCentral1 You shouldn't assume that if Jesus comes in Pre-trib that Post tribbers will miss it. Saved and washed in the blood has nothing to do with the interpretation of a different rapture time. Either Pre or Post we should always be ready for either one. And we should, at that time, when ever it is, meet each other in the air. Amen.
mustangpassurchevy 1 day ago
God bless!
TheStarlovechild 4 days ago
Matt 24:31 is not the Rapture. "heaven" in scripture can mean God's home, outer space, and the atmosphere of the earth. Gen. 1:8,15,20
Those indwelt by the Holy Spirit will be like Jesus when He calls, we won't need angels. These people are Tribulation saints, who are taken into the atmosphere by angels, as Jesus kills everyone who has taken the mark of the Beast, beneath them. Read The Spirit of Prophecy, by Daniel Knezacek, see thespiritofprophecy.ca
dknezacek1 3 weeks ago
@dknezacek1 Pre-tribbers have missed the signs of the rapture, as found in Scripture, but this does not mean the Pre-trib rapture is wrong. Imminence is wrong. The Psalm 83 and Ezekiel 38-39 wars will come first, during the Church age, and are signs of the rapture, but it will still occur before Daniel's 70th week.
dknezacek1 3 weeks ago
@dknezacek1 pre-trib is wrong because of John 6:39-40.
NickelsBuckingBulls 6 days ago
With the verse in Thessalonians, there are two ways that the pre-tribbers teach it. One is the way that he mentions, and the other teaching is that the part of the verse he's referring to is only referring to the Lord's return at the end of the tribulation, and not the rapture. That the rapture is mentioned further down when it talks about the withholder being taken out of the way before the man of sin can be revealed.
They've separated the rapture from the coming of the Lord to make it fit.
Myhopeisinhim 1 month ago
@bravone1
just because numerous prophesy teachers claim to teach something doesn't necessarily mean they are right.
I've seen jack change his understanding of something recently from a teaching he thought was right for the last 20 years.
Jesus himself spoke of his return after the trib and of our gathering at that same time. This is a hard one to accept but he never ever gives another order of things.
Myhopeisinhim 1 month ago
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I guess he's the only one that's right on the topic the rapture. I guess Grant Jeffrey, Joe Mullenix, Donal Perkins, Hal Lindsey, John Hagee, Jack Vam Impe, Chuck Missler, Mike Bickle and a few more which I don't remember now are all wrong when it comes to the rapture theory. Hmmm, ok yeah well I'm still sticking to the pre-rap theory
bravone1 1 month ago
The dead in Christ rise first,before the Rapture.When do the dead rise?Jesus said 4 times in John 6 that the Resurrection occurs on the LAST DAY,making the Rapture Post-Trib.See also Rev.20,1Cor15:22,23&24&Matt24:29,30&31.
samuelamos1 1 month ago
if the tribulation happened in the first century than that would mean the rapture teaching by paul was covenant language he was using. he is not talking about physical bodies, he's talking about living in the presence of god. when jesus came in judgement in 70 a d.that was the consumation of the kingdom, now we have what adam lost, living in god's presence. that''s what they were waiting for, jesus to be reaveled in his kingdom.
TheRcurtis810 2 months ago
the tribulation happened in the fist century, jesus said it would come on that generation, read josefus, every thing jesus said would happen, happened.
TheRcurtis810 2 months ago
@TheRcurtis810 ok, so what are you saying?
JASONANDTRACI 2 months ago
@TheRcurtis810 1 But in connection with the coming of our Lord Yeshua the Messiah AND our gathering together to meet him, we ask you, brothers, 2 not to be easily shaken in your thinking or anxious because of a spirit or a spoken message or a letter supposedly from us claiming that the Day of the Lord HAS ALREADY COME... (2 Thes 2:1-6)
Tracie725 3 weeks ago
@TheRcurtis810 Look at 2 Thes 2:1-6 again. "That day", when the Lord returns and we are gathered together (raptured) with Him are the same day. Therefore, since Y'shua has not yet returned, neither have we been raptured. YAH knew this false teaching would come and warned us in this scripture, "not to be easily shaken in your thinking or anxious because of a spirit or a spoken message or a letter supposedly from us claiming that the Day of the Lord HAS ALREADY COME..."
Tracie725 3 weeks ago
@Tracie725 Did you WATCH THE VIDEO IN ITS ENTIRETY? If you say yes, you are lying. Watch the video FIRST before replying with SUCH a WEAK citation. You wanna know something else.......... Bottom Line, Follow JESUS Christ Teachings (Ten Commandments) and repent your sinful Life. Jesus will Come when He Comes. THAT IS ALL!
JASONANDTRACI 3 weeks ago
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Check out MidnightWatcher's Blogspot and read through a few of the articles in the "Theology and Eschatology" section, particularly the "Not Appointed Unto Wrath" and "The Revelation of Jesus Christ and the Rapture of the Church" articles. I challenge anyone to refute them.
MidnightWatcher322 3 months ago
So best case scenario pre-tribulation rapture, worst case scenario pos-tribulation rapture. God bless us everyone.
niliaangel 5 months ago
@niliaangel Worst case scenario? I don't think so. Worst case scenario is falling away and being cut asunder. Then thrown into the lake of fire.
SpaceAboveSky 4 months ago
Was pre-trib, watched vid, studied scripture, STILL pre-trib. Shalom
snoopyredhat 7 months ago
@snoopyredhat SORRY YOUR WRONG DISINFO BOY
JASONANDTRACI 7 months ago
@JASONANDTRACI Girl, actually & time will tell. Shalom
snoopyredhat 7 months ago
@JASONANDTRACI , sorry for you, the second comming and rapture are posttrib! You must read scriptures more deeper!
lebovskii 2 months ago
@lebovskii That is what I am saying, obviously you did not watch video. The Bible states the tribulation occurs before the rapture. Therefore all Christians saved by Jesus Christ will leave and enter our heavenly bodies AFTER THE TRIBULATION.NOT BEFORE!
JASONANDTRACI 2 months ago
Pre Trib is a JESUIT LIE
As is ' Rapture ' a damned JESUIT WORD
As is ' Futurist ' and ' Preterist ' , JESUIT LIES to shift focus from the DAMNED ANTICHRIST POPE OF ROME
The man of sin , who thought to change ' Calendar' and 'Commandments'
Ishtar , Xmas , SABBATH to SUN CULT DAY
Ezekiel 8.14 details 40 days Lent weeping for Tammuz ,son of Ishtar ,
Facing EAST ,as PAPIST EVIL CHURCHES do towards SUN GOD SATAN
FKTHPOPE 7 months ago
@FKTHPOPE DID YOU WATCH THE VIDEO?
JASONANDTRACI 7 months ago