If it doesn't have one, why isn't there an onboard compressor to replace a small amount of the air, allowing this car to go even further on one fill up?
@redriverfollow 4 days ago I posted "Because that would be even more stupid than putting big wheels on the back axle so it always rolled down hill" The answer still stands
If we all had these cars the cash we would all globally save on petrol we would all be spending on other things this would put global economy right. And help the environment with zero emissions. But as usual the politicians an d the petrol companies are just way to greedy to allow this to ever happen. They could mass produce the cars and make their cash from that
@funnypoetbob if we all had these cars the world would be a disaster as these short range inefficient pieces of crap would collapse the energy supply. The only reason they are being sold next year, always next year, is because they are a long running con aimed at technically ignorant but wealthy fools
From what I've read on them they've had problems with the thermodynamic effects of compressing and expanding air. It gets hot when you compress it and cold when you release it. Also electric has got better. Very interesting idea though.
@creamyfilling102 i guess you'd go further by a small percentage by also sucking in some outside air and compressing it as shown , and maybe to add breaking power as an engine break ? I'm thinking hybrids like the volt and fisker karma and nina should out do this but its still a cool concept
As with all of these claims of "non polluting" vehicles.. they fail to factor in the pollution that was generated by the electrical power plant that provided energy to compress the air. If all cars were of this design.. (which actually uses gasoline for the first of the two pistons) then more power plants would have to be built to meet the demand.. and more pollution would be created. There is NO free energy.
@Daukk I completely understand what you're saying and I agree; however, you seem to completely rule out the renewable energy sources such as wind and solar. Granted, they are never going to cancel out the pollution already caused, but every step in the right direction is considered progress, no matter how small. This would be ideal in less economically developed countries as an entry vehicle sue to its relative simplicity. :)
@andrewrobotbuilder The problem with this mechanical system is very simply a problem of physics. We are all familiar with the law of Conservation of Energy. A car running on compressed air consumes more energy putting the compressed air into the system than you can ever hope to get back out. If it were otherwise, then we would have found a perpetual motion machine. Unless you can get mother nature to provide the compressed air, this technology (if you wish to call it that) has no future.
@andrewrobotbuilder I have not ruled out renewable energy sources that could produce electricity. I have, however, ruled out compressed air cars and a viable solution. Solar and wind energy could be used to produce electricity, but using electricity to run an electric compressor to charge the air tanks in the car would yield less useable energy than simply using solar power to charge batteries in an electric car.
surely no-one is thinking of compressing air on the fly? how fucking noisy are air-compressors, if it's anything like those then the world would become even more of a sci-fi-dystopia nightmare than it already is.
@callmeshane303 "1Kw of solar panels could run a compressor which could REALLY make heaps of compressed air running day in and day out.'
Nope BECAUSE THEY DON'T WORK WHEN THERE IS NO SUN and this piece of crap needs 6kw for 6 hours to refill the tanks to go an ACTUAL 5 miles not the BULLSHIT they claim but have never demonstrated
@callmeshane303 Remember Conservation of Energy? Remember, every time you convert energy from one form to another their is a loss of "useable" energy in the overall system. You would be better served by using solar panels to charge batteries than to power a mechanical compressor to provide compressed air. Fewer energy conversions with less loss due to heat. Total Input to Total Output Useable energy) ratios are more stable.
this car would have trouble in a canadian winter, the cold air is really hard on compressors, in fact some trains have trouble leaving a siding because the comprssors have trouble charging the brakes
@aspenGF8 - i think the general idea is to have tanks filled with compressed air that are swapped in & out, like batteries in an electric car could be. why the hell would anyone try to compress the air around the car while driving? though that'd be interesting, a whale car that eats air thru its grill as it drives along...
@JustSomePerson888 compress on the go because a air tank simply wouldn't last too long, if the engine compresses air while it drives like mentioned around the begining of the video it's a good chance at free energy
@JustSomePerson888 in the video they do seem noisy, like an old 4cyl and I think it needs to be refilled because as much as the car does compress more air as it runs it doesn't compress as much as it uses to it eventually needs a refill, that's what I got from the video
@aspenGF8 "if the engine compresses air while it drives like mentioned...it's a good chance at free energy"
LOL. That's like saying that if you buy a 1 HP motor and use it to turn a 10 HP generator, you'll get 10x the power out than you put in! So, there you go, invest all your money in that idea and you'll be wealthy beyond your dreams. Uh, except for this thing call the second law of thermodynamics...(yes, the claim in the video is hilariously impossible...)
@codehead1 hey now, read all my comments.. I'm not saying it'll work, and I never mentioned it like your theory, the way it seems to be with the compressing on the fly means it will compress small amounts as it runs, so say it's tank is good for 1 hour, with what it compresses as it runs, maybe it'll last for 1 hour 15 minutes. they had to say something like that because we all know a simple air tank won't last too long
@aspenGF8 "the way it seems to be with the compressing on the fly..."
The problem: Compressing will take some of compressed air energy from the tank, right? Say that it takes X joules per hour. If you had perfect conversion, it could store X joules back to the tank—a gain of nothing. But you can't even do that, because of the 2nd law of thermodynamics. You lose more than half the energy to heat; if you could store/use the heat you could hit 70%, but impractical in a car and still a loser.
@aspenGF8 To put it another way...if this were true, everyone would drive electric vehicles for free. You'd just put a generator on one of the wheels that would recharge the car as it drives.
In the case of electrics, it will take more power from the battery to drive the generator than the generator will make. For air cars, it will take more air from the tank than will be compressed to put back in.
You will always lose, until the second law of thermodynamics is repealed.
@codehead1 you just dont understand what I put, I never said it would work. With that system to compress air as it runs, that it MIGHT make the tank of air last a LITTLE longer than it would without it. I basically said in my first comment that the car would fail, I have no idea why you are trying to tell me that the car won't compress enough air to keep it going, I already know that.
@aspenGF8 "you just dont understand what I put...that it MIGHT make the tank of air last a LITTLE longer than it would without it"
I appreciate that you are giving it some thought, but please try to understand: it can't possible add, only subtract.
I know there is the tendency to think, "the wheels are already turning, why not use that to drive a compressor and get free energy?" But adding that burden of the compressor always uses more energy than you create. Always. Its a law of physics.
@aspenGF8 "so say it's tank is good for 1 hour, with what it compresses as it runs, maybe it'll last for 1 hour 15 minutes" NO you are trying to rewrite the laws of physics. IT TAKES ENERGY TO RUN THE COMPRESSOR MORE THAT IT CAN GENERATE. IT WOULD JUST ACT AS A BRAKE.
@fizzguts of course it'll work, you are all idiots, i'll be laughing at you all when I finish my electro magnetic car because I totally said that this air powered car will be a great success in my first post, by the way, the way I figured that their system might work is almost like a car's alternator.... sure it's friction will cause the car to lose a bit of power and the fuel economy will suffer slightly but it will produce electricity, enough to keep it's battery charged. if i'm wrong, oh well
"when I finish my electro magnetic car" Bwahahaha. See, we are already laughing at you.
Find someone you trust who has an education in science, who doesn't mind hurting your feelings and they will explain how you have made complete a twat of yourself in public.
@fizzguts how won't it work? you make a steel plate at one end and a electro magnet at the other, the magnetism to the steel plate will cause the car to move, more electricity faster the car goes. problem? TROLOLOLOL, I find it funny that you took me seriously on that, I really have little interest in that car but you guys keep posting on my comments so i'm starting to have fun pissing in your cornflakes
@aspenGF8 So you think you are a troll? Wrong you are a nit wit with the same understanding of physics as a concrete lamp post
"I really have little interest in that car" Oh yes you did, you were nicely suckered and now you realize you have made a complete twat of yourself hence the bluster and lies.
@fizzguts the cake is a lie, i'm no troll but troll physics are fun. and yes I do break the law of physics on a daily basis and your lamp post comment is just rude and absurd.. my grandfather was a wooden lamp post
It was all sounded good until they said "a production plant will be opening soon in Mexico".
With all due respect and sympathy to the Mexican people, that will kill the idea right there. The level corruption, inefficiency, and general ineptitude of the Mexican government will strangle this venture in its cradle.
@ThePhotory check "fun with ultra ultracapacitors" video, this puts batteries to stone age, then check free energy generators, and you will see that batteries or capacitors are not required for an electric car at all :)
of course there is a reason. The gas companies needs money and they don't want this car on the market. Fuck the environment and the other people in the world
@HornetFellow There is absolutey no reason why this shouldn't have hit the ground running by now.
Reasons? First, unless you capture the heat and use it for something else, compressed air energy storage is extremely lossy—much better to charge batteries and make an electric car. A compressed air car doesn't run well in a cold climate (but you get air conditioning for free in a hot one). To make this viable, you need an extremely light car—don't expect to pass US crash tests...
I was wondering, wouldn't it be possible to have the motion (plus maybe a fan that acts as a wind turbine in the car) of the car charge the battery that then powers the air compressor that fills the air tanks? For instance if the tank is low and the car is in motion, the compressor kicks in powered by all the stored energy of the moving vehicle.
Charging a battery pack with energy delivered from any source is much more efficient than storing it as compressed air. I wonder why these engineers don't bring that up. That's why you hear about some electric cars being developed, but hardly any compressed air powered ones.
On the other hand, a compressed air car can have *very* high performance for relatively little cash--if you can tolerate having to fill the tank every 5 km or so :)
@BasementEngineer Thanks so much for the answer. The day before, a friend of mine and I were discussing the problem of energy storage vis a vis solar and wind technology. So, from what you are saying, this is not a solution and batteries, though currently expensive, will probably get there before compressed air. Thanks again.
You got it--Storage has *always* been the killer. Especially today, with very low cost power electronics and brushless DC (or AC) motors, there really is nothing about electric cars that needs to be developed at all. It's fully mature technology. Batteries, on the other hand, could always stand to be lighter, and most of all, much cheaper. There are batteries available today which could already be considered to 'be there', but are very expensive.
This car has never run 200km on one fill-up - that was the theoretical number they came up with based on a short early run. The electricity it takes to compress the air would get an EV several times farther.
@hempev THe point is though, that a car run on compressed air can be filled up and ready to go in about the same time as a car that runs on gas. Forthermore, there are MANY ways of compressing the air with very low Carbon footprint. Compressed air can also be stored and transported very very easily. Generally not true about Electricity and Electric cars.
@saeidmomtahan I think you have no numbers to back those claims - how many psi in How big of a storage vessel (volume) would you need to go 200km? How fast do you think that much compressed air at, let us say, 5000psi can be moved? A 500lb lithium pack can get a car this size farther than 200km, and recharges as you sleep with no more risk than running an air conditioner unsupervised - not something you would do with 5000psi air. And with this, basic physics rears its head.
I would put a Wood gas genny with a wood shredder in the trunk. In the country, just pick some wood, shred it, place it in the drying compartment of the genny, and you can run for free!
awesome. america is like light years behind europe. all the laws and legal bullshit. this wouldn't even be allowed on the road in the US because we have in fact NO FREEDOM. what a way to progress forward.uncle sam.
I.C. CAR: burn fossil fuel in the engine and drive.
ELECTRIC CAR: burn fossil fuel in a power plant to generate electric energy, load a batterie and drive.
AIR CAR: burn fossil fuel in a power plant, generate electric energy to drive a compressor, load an air tank and drive. Make the people believe that this is a pollution free car. Take the development money from government , buy a Porsche and be a happy Guy Négre.
@MrDorfmann Electric car is wrong. What do you expect? The whole coal plant to shut down because one guy bought an electric car? that little tiny insignificant charger isn't going to make that plant that puts out electricity to hundreds and thousands of houses work any harder. Your fucking stupid. Plus if someone was using one to go green you could buy A solar panel and wind turbine which can charge it just as fast. So please think before you speak, You only make yourself look stupid
@14omega28ok car test under realistic conditions in winter showed the i-MiEV electric car to go only half the claimed 144 km with one charging and the actual pollution was calculated 125 gramms CO2 per kilometre. Solar cells would´t charge it in this country. I´ve seen a so-called "Solar"-car rally - they had to use a diesel generator to charge the batteries because it was a cloudy day. So please don´t call me stupid !
pretty cool but skeptical about it the description on how the engine suppose to run is a bit confusing and being as us normal folk arent going to be able to have a look properly at how the engine runs guess we will never know?
dont schools teach basic physics any more? i find it incredible that so many people appear to be either stupid or gullible enough to be taken in by the obvious false claims of con artists such as this, very sad.
Some update please? Last I heard, Guy Negre refuse to pass over the technology for Cat and his excuse was money. But Cat corp got mad and stated that the people are putting investment to Guy but somehow, the process stopped.
@Cotronixco - I can't speak for compressed air cars, but electric cars coming on the market now in the USA run at the equivalent of $1 a gallon gasoline. Electric motors and fossil fuel power plants are much more efficient, so even though the electricity comes from a fossil fuel power plant, total pollution is less than that of a gasoline powered car.
@foxkart61 That is only correct if you are comparing the car to a very tiny internal combustion engine. You have to compare an apples to an apple, not an apple to a grape. One gallon of gasoline provides the equivalent of 33kWH of energy. Doing the math shows little savings, if any. As the cost to produce electricity increases, the fact that the constant waste of producing and recycling huge batteries certainly throws it over the edge.
@Cotronixco But the cost to extract oil will skyrocket in the next few years as we drain the last of the planet's easily-extractable oil. Factor in damage caused by climate change brought on endless burning of fossil fuels and wars for oil makes electric-powered cars, and air cars charged up by electric air pumps, with solar and wind power as the source, far cheaper.
What conservatives simply do not have the mental capacity to get is the Second Law of Thermodynamics.
@Cotronixco The anti-environmentalists and climate-change deniers and those who refuse to make any change in their consumption or lifestyles are the irrational ones who refuse to face facts and the consequences of actions. Solar and wind power people are the only sane energy-supplying businesspeople.
@mphello When solar and wind investments provide a guaranteed payback of less than 10 years, let me know. Until then, stick with the facts, not feelings.
@Cotronixco No technology can get around the Second Law of Thermo. Hence, we have to live at a reduce amount of consumption and reduced population. It can be done fairly, but only if...
we mandate birth control by vasectomies for men, outlawing breeding animals for food,
nuclear power (a colossal waste and expense), and coal, fracking, and oil. Oil must be preserved for materials, not to burn as fuel.
@Cotronixco Well, I know you were joking about your remark about "feelings", since I presented only facts, not feelings (policies that are necessary to sustain the human species; the second law of thermo).
@Cotronixco - the average gasoline powered car is only 15-20% efficient, electric cars are 3-4 times as efficent with energy, that is the cost save. The new lithium car batteries last 100,000 miles, and then are sold into the power utility storage market since they still hold 80% capacity, no large numbers are going to the dump. A typical gas car will dump many lead batteries in the dump over its life, think about that.
@foxkart61 I dont like either. Electric cars are powered off a coal based electric grid in the US. Very ineffecient and polluting. Not to mention coal mining removes whole mountains. Lead batteries dont go to the dump, btw. Lead is too valuable. It's recycled.
@Shiftypop Yes, but for each kilometre of travel an electric car run off power from a coal powered plant is 90% more efficient than a petrol driven car. True on batteries, but surely that is nothing compared to all the crap in the environment from oil.
Another scam powered by desire to get funded. Sounds great but it doesn't work that great. Just buy a 5.7l Tundra and drive it non-stop. The sooner we burn all the oil the sooner we'll be gone. What a relief it will be for the planet.
I see that the Chevy Volt uses as small gasoline engine for the sole purpose of generating electricity, what about using a compressed air engine to do the same thing?
@williamblackfeather "what about using a compressed air engine to do the same thing?" And what runs the air engine? Answer compressed air, and where does that come from? A compressor, and what powers that I know an petrol engine! Thank you for your idea, please go to the remedial science class, your seat has been reserved
are you guys going to sell it here in THE USA ? i mosty drive 500 to 1000 miles and little city driveing .... let us know ! i love the car the truck one
@FORMATERMAN Well as the actual range is 5 miles it is hideously inefficient and takes 6 hours to refill the tank with a 6 kw compressor you might now understand why they have never been put on sale. But if you want to buy a franchise MDI will accept your money no problem
instead of having to fill it up it should an air proccesor in the front so while driving it will capture air and could get compressed while driving so you dont have to worry about refueling air.copyright
2 key items are brushed over: how do they recover lost heat energy generated by compressing air, and testimonials of real customers / sales figures to date / reviews by end users.
If both answers are met, then wait 2 years for safety eval. Tanks age. So, need home test every few by over pressurizing in controlled environment or xray.
Nothing is totally safe: a friend was killed by a car cigarette lighter when it popped, caught napkin & interior on fire while driving. Ah, amenities.
Did anyone else see what I saw? He made a non-fossil-fuel, non-polluting car then at the last minute, decided to cave in to peer pressure and make a gas-guzzler! What a fucking sell-out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
why do these morons put some golf cart looking like car. make it look like a real car real people will drive. every experimental car looks retarded. who wants to drive that. change whats under the hood. convert some hondas, fords, toyota, etc.
@TZMIndy give me $30,000 to convert my suv to compressed air and i'll do it. ;) and their morons because they build obsolete impractical vehicles for everyday life. the US masses are not going to adjust what they need for scientists who want to impose their ideal forms of environmentally low impact cars. I wish it were different because I am an environmentalist. Build an suv so people can transport their family in safety and style. At the same price or lower than whats being produced now.
Only thing is that it is not completely pollution free. It takes energy to compress that air, so you need electricity to run a compressor, and the way that electricity is made will pollute. :(
If you have two carbon-fiber tanks, you can run the engine and accessories, including an air-compressor running off the FEAD belt, off one tank while the other tank is being filled with compressed air. The trick is to make sure that you can fill one tank before you expend the other. Of course, initially you will have to charge at least one tank from an outside source. No solution is 100% pollution-free, but we can get close.
If you have two carbon-fiber tanks, you can run the engine and accessories, including an air-compressor running off the FEAD belt, off one tank while the other tank is being filled with compressed air. The trick is to make sure that you can fill one tank before you expend the other. Of course, initially you will have to charge at least one tank from an outside source. No solution is 100% pollution-free, but we can get close.
electric cars are stupid...batteries are wasteful, take forever to load, and run out fast....this technology is brilliant...Ethanol, Air and Hydrogen are the best solutions
If they could make a easy way to extract the pressured air out of a air tank
or make you able to hook a refillable compressed air tank to a car.. then add
a way to switch the motor too electric or put a electric motor in the trunk to switch too.. then you could fill up on electric while your home and put in a (or turn on) the compressed air tank for more distance. Then you could always refill the air tank. Less demand on electricity. Dont need a plug on the go. Prices dont spike from bio fuel
@davidthe1 "why not make a car like this but add a wagon with an aircompressor and you can drive like forever????" Yeah and the compressor would be powered by a petrol motor so you can waste even more energy!
I like the idea even if it does not work yet. Might still need more work and testing. But if there were no people who tried to find different solutions we all will be have to go back to our feet to move about eventually.
@chocolatesrgood4you There is 150 years of history, the physics is fully understood which is why by the late 1900's they had given up on air vehicles except for very specialized applications. They have been revived on an off by charlatans and con artists over the last 80 years. These arsewipes all have in common ludicrous claims and NEVER an independent test.
This prototype never went into production and in the only public test it ran out of air after 7.22km -- less than 5 miles.
Their project is now a tiny bubble like car. It has also been "next year production" for several years, although they have not yet built a fully functional prototype.
MDI is good at getting publicity and raising money from gullible investors, but hasn't sold a single vehicle.
NEW BRETTON WOODS: On this very same day, the first meeting to completely overhaul the world's financial system will take place. Other countries will now have much more of a say. This is the literal fulfillment of everything Fulford and I have been saying for so long.
This will create a massive wave of prosperity and directly pave the way for the release of clean, 'free' energy technology.
@busguy100 the air tanks are made of carbon fiber so thay dont explode thay just crack, and if thay fit an onboard motor that refills the tanks as you drive then i will buy one, but thay need to muffle the sound.
@regalgsme "the air tanks are made of carbon fiber " and will explode just like a steel tank in simlar impacts. air doesn't know what the container is BOOM. You will never buy a MDI air car because if they sold it everyone would see what a useless con it is.
@gerrilea1 The over pressure rating of a composite tank is just the same as a steel or alloy tank. They are made to meet the same standards. They are much lighter but more expensive. 5 minutes on google will show you examples of composite tanks due to faults or damage exploding don't be a lazy brain and believe every lie MDI spouts.
@gerrilea1 The tanks are made to the same ultimate burst strength as steel or alloy tanks as set by the relevant standard. The result of rupture is just as catastrophic as a steel tank. There are examples on youtube and a bit of googling. Stop believing every nonsense claim put out by MDI
@Sailerrman they probably have, thats why this is the first Ive heard about it and Im in green building. and It's been 4 years since the video was released.
@odissonance No, this con has been around for over 10 years and responsible journalists who can do 5 minutes research on the internet can figure out just what a piece of crap this is. you could do the same but you' won't., you'd rather believe in magic air cars that don't work as claimed. Hint actual range about 5 miles
@fizzguts Wow okay Its called irony. Of course Im not going to look into. If I believed it then I would. I know this may come as a surprise to the denizens of YouTube however just because you're on the internet doesn't mean its okay to automatically answer everything like an ass. Despite the confrontational tone of this post I do appreciate hearing from someone who knows more than me about this.
Well, a little company in France developed a system comparable with the performance of electric cars who cost, the last decade, billions of development. I guess that if 1/10 of this money was invested in this system, they could turn it into a much better solution. The cost of compressing Air is ridiculous and the energy it takes to do so is almost irrelevant.
@GabKoost Cost to run this air car piece of shit, is 5 times an electric vehicle for the same distance. Figures Direct from Shiva Vencat the now ex USA distributor for MDI.
So air compressing is almost free. Well stupid next time you go to have a dive tank filled and refuse to pay the $15 fee can I watch the kicking you will get?
How are you getting on finding a test where this piece of crap has crawled more than 10km?
Man made global warming is a myth that is being exploited by greedy politicians who's sole focus is raising carbon taxes. Pathetic. I'm going to produce as much CO2 as i want because i know it's harmless in the atmosphere
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dont buy into this shit. compressed air has the efficiency of lessthan 1% of that of gasoline. and do you think its cheap to create a machine that can push 4200psi into a tank? or how about the power plants supplying the electricity to power the compressors
You are right about the power plants, but maybe law-makers can act NOW pass a law to have the air-compressors that fill these cars powered just by alternative power sources, such as solar/wind/etc. That way it will be clean power. But I see two more drawbacks: 1) low power, 2) noise. Since they claim the engine is so small, they should try fitting it in a scooter or something.
@jezuz12345 So you'd make people have to buy $20,000 worth of PV's to run the 6kw compressor for 6 hours this piece of crap needs with it's ACTUAL 5 mile range. Well that makes sense. NOT.
@fizzguts Moron. 200km = 125 Miles. 160kmh of top speed = +- 100 mph. Perfect solution. Just need to work out the design but it works for me. Almost free energy, non poluent simple engine. Only american ressources eaters could not like this car.
@ddevineisofine AHAHAHAHAHAH. Man, your an ass. What about power plants to produce electricity for electric cars? That is your worry? Electricity to put air in a container? Ahahahaha.
fuck this, when i get my Tahoe, i'm keeping it!!!!!!!
Tbolt1000TForLife 1 day ago
are you tellin me this sucker is nuclear?
LOPEZdJUNGLIST 5 days ago
If it doesn't have one, why isn't there an onboard compressor to replace a small amount of the air, allowing this car to go even further on one fill up?
redriverfollow 1 week ago
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@redriverfollow 4 days ago I posted "Because that would be even more stupid than putting big wheels on the back axle so it always rolled down hill" The answer still stands
fizzguts 1 week ago
If we all had these cars the cash we would all globally save on petrol we would all be spending on other things this would put global economy right. And help the environment with zero emissions. But as usual the politicians an d the petrol companies are just way to greedy to allow this to ever happen. They could mass produce the cars and make their cash from that
funnypoetbob 3 weeks ago
@funnypoetbob if we all had these cars the world would be a disaster as these short range inefficient pieces of crap would collapse the energy supply. The only reason they are being sold next year, always next year, is because they are a long running con aimed at technically ignorant but wealthy fools
fizzguts 2 weeks ago
From what I've read on them they've had problems with the thermodynamic effects of compressing and expanding air. It gets hot when you compress it and cold when you release it. Also electric has got better. Very interesting idea though.
m0rjc 3 weeks ago
The money powers aren't going to like that are they...
jonnoshore 4 weeks ago
why do they need a first piston to compress the air into the second piston? why not just feed a piston with air directly from the tank??
creamyfilling102 1 month ago
@creamyfilling102 i guess you'd go further by a small percentage by also sucking in some outside air and compressing it as shown , and maybe to add breaking power as an engine break ? I'm thinking hybrids like the volt and fisker karma and nina should out do this but its still a cool concept
toob247 1 month ago
@creamyfilling102 Because that would be even more stupid than putting big wheels on the back axle so it always rolled down hill
fizzguts 2 weeks ago
You look my car electric
fernandes606 1 month ago
if it does what it claims..... i want one now!!!
odinmp5 1 month ago
As with all of these claims of "non polluting" vehicles.. they fail to factor in the pollution that was generated by the electrical power plant that provided energy to compress the air. If all cars were of this design.. (which actually uses gasoline for the first of the two pistons) then more power plants would have to be built to meet the demand.. and more pollution would be created. There is NO free energy.
Daukk 2 months ago
@Daukk I completely understand what you're saying and I agree; however, you seem to completely rule out the renewable energy sources such as wind and solar. Granted, they are never going to cancel out the pollution already caused, but every step in the right direction is considered progress, no matter how small. This would be ideal in less economically developed countries as an entry vehicle sue to its relative simplicity. :)
andrewrobotbuilder 2 months ago
@andrewrobotbuilder The problem with this mechanical system is very simply a problem of physics. We are all familiar with the law of Conservation of Energy. A car running on compressed air consumes more energy putting the compressed air into the system than you can ever hope to get back out. If it were otherwise, then we would have found a perpetual motion machine. Unless you can get mother nature to provide the compressed air, this technology (if you wish to call it that) has no future.
Daukk 1 month ago
@andrewrobotbuilder I have not ruled out renewable energy sources that could produce electricity. I have, however, ruled out compressed air cars and a viable solution. Solar and wind energy could be used to produce electricity, but using electricity to run an electric compressor to charge the air tanks in the car would yield less useable energy than simply using solar power to charge batteries in an electric car.
Daukk 1 month ago
surely no-one is thinking of compressing air on the fly? how fucking noisy are air-compressors, if it's anything like those then the world would become even more of a sci-fi-dystopia nightmare than it already is.
JustSomePerson888 2 months ago
i dont think that the cars are ugly .. just useful construction .. limited to what a car should do ... transport
Dubconferencedotorg 2 months ago
1Kw of solar panels could run a compressor which could REALLY make heaps of compressed air running day in and day out.
callmeshane303 2 months ago
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@callmeshane303 "1Kw of solar panels could run a compressor which could REALLY make heaps of compressed air running day in and day out.'
Nope BECAUSE THEY DON'T WORK WHEN THERE IS NO SUN and this piece of crap needs 6kw for 6 hours to refill the tanks to go an ACTUAL 5 miles not the BULLSHIT they claim but have never demonstrated
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Daukk 1 month ago
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@callmeshane303 Remember Conservation of Energy? Remember, every time you convert energy from one form to another their is a loss of "useable" energy in the overall system. You would be better served by using solar panels to charge batteries than to power a mechanical compressor to provide compressed air. Fewer energy conversions with less loss due to heat. Total Input to Total Output Useable energy) ratios are more stable.
Daukk 1 month ago
why can't I buy this? It works... it's cheap as fuck... WHERE IS THIS?
The US government is run with money... not your best interests.
ClassActionHero 2 months ago
@ClassActionHero "It works." Really so you''ve seen an independent test confirming these totally impossible claims? No one else has.
fizzguts 2 months ago
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KhmerBabeUSA 2 months ago
this car would have trouble in a canadian winter, the cold air is really hard on compressors, in fact some trains have trouble leaving a siding because the comprssors have trouble charging the brakes
aspenGF8 2 months ago
@aspenGF8 - i think the general idea is to have tanks filled with compressed air that are swapped in & out, like batteries in an electric car could be. why the hell would anyone try to compress the air around the car while driving? though that'd be interesting, a whale car that eats air thru its grill as it drives along...
JustSomePerson888 2 months ago
@JustSomePerson888 compress on the go because a air tank simply wouldn't last too long, if the engine compresses air while it drives like mentioned around the begining of the video it's a good chance at free energy
aspenGF8 2 months ago
@aspenGF8 - so are they extremely noisy then, cause air compressors are.
the blurb says it does 200km and can be filled up - isn't that a tank of 200km worth of compressed air then?
JustSomePerson888 2 months ago
@JustSomePerson888 in the video they do seem noisy, like an old 4cyl and I think it needs to be refilled because as much as the car does compress more air as it runs it doesn't compress as much as it uses to it eventually needs a refill, that's what I got from the video
aspenGF8 2 months ago
@aspenGF8 "if the engine compresses air while it drives like mentioned...it's a good chance at free energy"
LOL. That's like saying that if you buy a 1 HP motor and use it to turn a 10 HP generator, you'll get 10x the power out than you put in! So, there you go, invest all your money in that idea and you'll be wealthy beyond your dreams. Uh, except for this thing call the second law of thermodynamics...(yes, the claim in the video is hilariously impossible...)
codehead1 2 months ago
@codehead1 hey now, read all my comments.. I'm not saying it'll work, and I never mentioned it like your theory, the way it seems to be with the compressing on the fly means it will compress small amounts as it runs, so say it's tank is good for 1 hour, with what it compresses as it runs, maybe it'll last for 1 hour 15 minutes. they had to say something like that because we all know a simple air tank won't last too long
aspenGF8 2 months ago
@aspenGF8 "the way it seems to be with the compressing on the fly..."
The problem: Compressing will take some of compressed air energy from the tank, right? Say that it takes X joules per hour. If you had perfect conversion, it could store X joules back to the tank—a gain of nothing. But you can't even do that, because of the 2nd law of thermodynamics. You lose more than half the energy to heat; if you could store/use the heat you could hit 70%, but impractical in a car and still a loser.
codehead1 2 months ago
@aspenGF8 To put it another way...if this were true, everyone would drive electric vehicles for free. You'd just put a generator on one of the wheels that would recharge the car as it drives.
In the case of electrics, it will take more power from the battery to drive the generator than the generator will make. For air cars, it will take more air from the tank than will be compressed to put back in.
You will always lose, until the second law of thermodynamics is repealed.
codehead1 2 months ago
@codehead1 you just dont understand what I put, I never said it would work. With that system to compress air as it runs, that it MIGHT make the tank of air last a LITTLE longer than it would without it. I basically said in my first comment that the car would fail, I have no idea why you are trying to tell me that the car won't compress enough air to keep it going, I already know that.
aspenGF8 2 months ago
@aspenGF8 "you just dont understand what I put...that it MIGHT make the tank of air last a LITTLE longer than it would without it"
I appreciate that you are giving it some thought, but please try to understand: it can't possible add, only subtract.
I know there is the tendency to think, "the wheels are already turning, why not use that to drive a compressor and get free energy?" But adding that burden of the compressor always uses more energy than you create. Always. Its a law of physics.
codehead1 2 months ago
@aspenGF8 "so say it's tank is good for 1 hour, with what it compresses as it runs, maybe it'll last for 1 hour 15 minutes" NO you are trying to rewrite the laws of physics. IT TAKES ENERGY TO RUN THE COMPRESSOR MORE THAT IT CAN GENERATE. IT WOULD JUST ACT AS A BRAKE.
fizzguts 2 months ago
@fizzguts of course it'll work, you are all idiots, i'll be laughing at you all when I finish my electro magnetic car because I totally said that this air powered car will be a great success in my first post, by the way, the way I figured that their system might work is almost like a car's alternator.... sure it's friction will cause the car to lose a bit of power and the fuel economy will suffer slightly but it will produce electricity, enough to keep it's battery charged. if i'm wrong, oh well
aspenGF8 2 months ago
@aspenGF8
"if i'm wrong," There is no "if" you are wrong
"when I finish my electro magnetic car" Bwahahaha. See, we are already laughing at you.
Find someone you trust who has an education in science, who doesn't mind hurting your feelings and they will explain how you have made complete a twat of yourself in public.
fizzguts 2 months ago
@fizzguts how won't it work? you make a steel plate at one end and a electro magnet at the other, the magnetism to the steel plate will cause the car to move, more electricity faster the car goes. problem? TROLOLOLOL, I find it funny that you took me seriously on that, I really have little interest in that car but you guys keep posting on my comments so i'm starting to have fun pissing in your cornflakes
aspenGF8 2 months ago
@aspenGF8 So you think you are a troll? Wrong you are a nit wit with the same understanding of physics as a concrete lamp post
"I really have little interest in that car" Oh yes you did, you were nicely suckered and now you realize you have made a complete twat of yourself hence the bluster and lies.
You have been owned
fizzguts 2 months ago
@fizzguts the cake is a lie, i'm no troll but troll physics are fun. and yes I do break the law of physics on a daily basis and your lamp post comment is just rude and absurd.. my grandfather was a wooden lamp post
aspenGF8 2 months ago
It was all sounded good until they said "a production plant will be opening soon in Mexico".
With all due respect and sympathy to the Mexican people, that will kill the idea right there. The level corruption, inefficiency, and general ineptitude of the Mexican government will strangle this venture in its cradle.
R3dp055um 2 months ago
more noisy cars...
TechPro3 3 months ago
@TechPro3 Would prefer a noisy car then a who pollutions, an electric car is still not a funcional since we are so behind with batteries
ThePhotory 3 months ago
@ThePhotory check "fun with ultra ultracapacitors" video, this puts batteries to stone age, then check free energy generators, and you will see that batteries or capacitors are not required for an electric car at all :)
TechPro3 3 months ago
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of course there is a reason. The gas companies needs money and they don't want this car on the market. Fuck the environment and the other people in the world
BnG13 3 months ago
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BnG13 3 months ago
There is absolutey no reason why this shouldn't have hit the ground running by now.
HornetFellow 3 months ago 11
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@HornetFellow "There is absolutey no reason why this shouldn't have hit the ground running by now."
Only perhaps that this air car bullshit is ABSOLUTE NONSENSE??? :-)
joaquinveyron 3 months ago
@HornetFellow There is absolutey no reason why this shouldn't have hit the ground running by now.
Reasons? First, unless you capture the heat and use it for something else, compressed air energy storage is extremely lossy—much better to charge batteries and make an electric car. A compressed air car doesn't run well in a cold climate (but you get air conditioning for free in a hot one). To make this viable, you need an extremely light car—don't expect to pass US crash tests...
codehead1 2 months ago
This is great!!!!
We need 100 people like him to make this world a better place....
GOODLUCK!!!
ca0520 4 months ago
@ca0520 So you want 100 more lying arseholes taking money from technically ignorant investors for a long running CON. Right.how terrific
fizzguts 3 months ago
bla bla bla...I want results(in real life , not just an experiment with 2000 cars)...Could we get rid of petrol powered cars?
sliksQQ 4 months ago
i dont blive that nver ever !!!
azad7907 4 months ago
I was wondering, wouldn't it be possible to have the motion (plus maybe a fan that acts as a wind turbine in the car) of the car charge the battery that then powers the air compressor that fills the air tanks? For instance if the tank is low and the car is in motion, the compressor kicks in powered by all the stored energy of the moving vehicle.
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@stayelusive Or you could use a sprocket on the rear wheels to chain drive a sprocket on the front wheel
fizzguts 3 months ago
@stayelusive WOW the stupidity of humanity is truly AMAZING!!
davetileguy 2 months ago
Where does the energy to compress the air come from?
perlisle 4 months ago
@perlisle
Brilliant question. Care to guess? :)
Charging a battery pack with energy delivered from any source is much more efficient than storing it as compressed air. I wonder why these engineers don't bring that up. That's why you hear about some electric cars being developed, but hardly any compressed air powered ones.
On the other hand, a compressed air car can have *very* high performance for relatively little cash--if you can tolerate having to fill the tank every 5 km or so :)
BasementEngineer 4 months ago
@BasementEngineer Thanks so much for the answer. The day before, a friend of mine and I were discussing the problem of energy storage vis a vis solar and wind technology. So, from what you are saying, this is not a solution and batteries, though currently expensive, will probably get there before compressed air. Thanks again.
perlisle 4 months ago
@perlisle
You got it--Storage has *always* been the killer. Especially today, with very low cost power electronics and brushless DC (or AC) motors, there really is nothing about electric cars that needs to be developed at all. It's fully mature technology. Batteries, on the other hand, could always stand to be lighter, and most of all, much cheaper. There are batteries available today which could already be considered to 'be there', but are very expensive.
BasementEngineer 4 months ago
Great concept but what dreadful English!!! Future promotional material will have to do much much better...
thomash2806 5 months ago
This car has never run 200km on one fill-up - that was the theoretical number they came up with based on a short early run. The electricity it takes to compress the air would get an EV several times farther.
hempev 5 months ago 14
@hempev THe point is though, that a car run on compressed air can be filled up and ready to go in about the same time as a car that runs on gas. Forthermore, there are MANY ways of compressing the air with very low Carbon footprint. Compressed air can also be stored and transported very very easily. Generally not true about Electricity and Electric cars.
saeidmomtahan 1 month ago
@saeidmomtahan I think you have no numbers to back those claims - how many psi in How big of a storage vessel (volume) would you need to go 200km? How fast do you think that much compressed air at, let us say, 5000psi can be moved? A 500lb lithium pack can get a car this size farther than 200km, and recharges as you sleep with no more risk than running an air conditioner unsupervised - not something you would do with 5000psi air. And with this, basic physics rears its head.
hempev 1 month ago
I would put a Wood gas genny with a wood shredder in the trunk. In the country, just pick some wood, shred it, place it in the drying compartment of the genny, and you can run for free!
Rhinoch8 5 months ago
awesome. america is like light years behind europe. all the laws and legal bullshit. this wouldn't even be allowed on the road in the US because we have in fact NO FREEDOM. what a way to progress forward.uncle sam.
atrem227 5 months ago
@atrem227
It's a stupid long running con aimed at technically illiterate investors.
fizzguts 5 months ago
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jamestargetedindiv 5 months ago
mr garrison car in south park look like this one
EviljoeMr 5 months ago
watch: Japanese Company Invents Water Fueled Car
MIKELJM01 5 months ago
Oil companies would not let this go unpunished. They already killed those guys
in japan that invented the car that runs in water in 2008.
MIKELJM01 5 months ago
love it ,australia lundove
MrAcnrep 5 months ago
better yet add a Li battery to run and on board compressor?? when the tank get half full it fills it back up ?
thatrandomguy011 6 months ago
I.C. CAR: burn fossil fuel in the engine and drive.
ELECTRIC CAR: burn fossil fuel in a power plant to generate electric energy, load a batterie and drive.
AIR CAR: burn fossil fuel in a power plant, generate electric energy to drive a compressor, load an air tank and drive. Make the people believe that this is a pollution free car. Take the development money from government , buy a Porsche and be a happy Guy Négre.
MrDorfmann 6 months ago
@MrDorfmann Electric car is wrong. What do you expect? The whole coal plant to shut down because one guy bought an electric car? that little tiny insignificant charger isn't going to make that plant that puts out electricity to hundreds and thousands of houses work any harder. Your fucking stupid. Plus if someone was using one to go green you could buy A solar panel and wind turbine which can charge it just as fast. So please think before you speak, You only make yourself look stupid
14omega28ok 5 months ago
@14omega28ok car test under realistic conditions in winter showed the i-MiEV electric car to go only half the claimed 144 km with one charging and the actual pollution was calculated 125 gramms CO2 per kilometre. Solar cells would´t charge it in this country. I´ve seen a so-called "Solar"-car rally - they had to use a diesel generator to charge the batteries because it was a cloudy day. So please don´t call me stupid !
MrDorfmann 5 months ago
@MrDorfmann Please just don't bother, You've already lost this arguement.
14omega28ok 5 months ago
pretty cool but skeptical about it the description on how the engine suppose to run is a bit confusing and being as us normal folk arent going to be able to have a look properly at how the engine runs guess we will never know?
greyandme2 6 months ago
dont schools teach basic physics any more? i find it incredible that so many people appear to be either stupid or gullible enough to be taken in by the obvious false claims of con artists such as this, very sad.
311hwr 6 months ago
Some update please? Last I heard, Guy Negre refuse to pass over the technology for Cat and his excuse was money. But Cat corp got mad and stated that the people are putting investment to Guy but somehow, the process stopped.
I want my air car.
Topazman12 6 months ago
@Topazman12
catecar dot ch has the details. It's the same old scam MDI have been running since 1995
Various burnt investors are grouping at action-group dot co dot cc
MDI jog on promising miracles to technically ignorant investors and physics challenged wooly thinkers
fizzguts 6 months ago
Awsome Short Clip
freesites1 6 months ago
Electric cars and compressed-air cars cost more to run, and pollute the environment more, than gasoline-powered cars.
Cotronixco 7 months ago
@Cotronixco - I can't speak for compressed air cars, but electric cars coming on the market now in the USA run at the equivalent of $1 a gallon gasoline. Electric motors and fossil fuel power plants are much more efficient, so even though the electricity comes from a fossil fuel power plant, total pollution is less than that of a gasoline powered car.
foxkart61 6 months ago
@foxkart61 That is only correct if you are comparing the car to a very tiny internal combustion engine. You have to compare an apples to an apple, not an apple to a grape. One gallon of gasoline provides the equivalent of 33kWH of energy. Doing the math shows little savings, if any. As the cost to produce electricity increases, the fact that the constant waste of producing and recycling huge batteries certainly throws it over the edge.
Cotronixco 6 months ago
@Cotronixco But the cost to extract oil will skyrocket in the next few years as we drain the last of the planet's easily-extractable oil. Factor in damage caused by climate change brought on endless burning of fossil fuels and wars for oil makes electric-powered cars, and air cars charged up by electric air pumps, with solar and wind power as the source, far cheaper.
What conservatives simply do not have the mental capacity to get is the Second Law of Thermodynamics.
mphello 6 months ago
@mphello When it becomes cheaper per horsepower, let me know. Until then, stick with the facts, not feelings.
Cotronixco 6 months ago
@Cotronixco The anti-environmentalists and climate-change deniers and those who refuse to make any change in their consumption or lifestyles are the irrational ones who refuse to face facts and the consequences of actions. Solar and wind power people are the only sane energy-supplying businesspeople.
mphello 6 months ago
@mphello When solar and wind investments provide a guaranteed payback of less than 10 years, let me know. Until then, stick with the facts, not feelings.
Cotronixco 6 months ago
@Cotronixco Well, you're in luck, because they already have for the past 30 years.
So, you need to stop being so irrational and emotional.
Oil, coal, gas have not been guaranteed paybacks, because of all the subsidies that have supported them.
mphello 6 months ago
@Cotronixco No technology can get around the Second Law of Thermo. Hence, we have to live at a reduce amount of consumption and reduced population. It can be done fairly, but only if...
we mandate birth control by vasectomies for men, outlawing breeding animals for food,
nuclear power (a colossal waste and expense), and coal, fracking, and oil. Oil must be preserved for materials, not to burn as fuel.
mphello 6 months ago
@mphello I'm assuming you are joking.
Cotronixco 6 months ago
@Cotronixco Well, I know you were joking about your remark about "feelings", since I presented only facts, not feelings (policies that are necessary to sustain the human species; the second law of thermo).
mphello 6 months ago
@Cotronixco - the average gasoline powered car is only 15-20% efficient, electric cars are 3-4 times as efficent with energy, that is the cost save. The new lithium car batteries last 100,000 miles, and then are sold into the power utility storage market since they still hold 80% capacity, no large numbers are going to the dump. A typical gas car will dump many lead batteries in the dump over its life, think about that.
foxkart61 6 months ago
@foxkart61 I dont like either. Electric cars are powered off a coal based electric grid in the US. Very ineffecient and polluting. Not to mention coal mining removes whole mountains. Lead batteries dont go to the dump, btw. Lead is too valuable. It's recycled.
Shiftypop 6 months ago
@Shiftypop Yes, but for each kilometre of travel an electric car run off power from a coal powered plant is 90% more efficient than a petrol driven car. True on batteries, but surely that is nothing compared to all the crap in the environment from oil.
goosoid 6 months ago
Google Wiki compressed air car to see why this is a waste of time.
LifesVoyager 7 months ago
yes i SAW THIS ON BEYOND 2000 ... 11 YEARS AGO!!!!! It is still not in production because it is a scam!!!!!!!!
kookyuke 7 months ago
Olny 10 thousand dollars? And it's completely clean? I want one :)
FrigidPhoenix 7 months ago 3
the world is full of real intelligent n responsivle people but the mass media dont show these.
**censur**
GreenDevilAngel 7 months ago
interesting engine, too bad the vehicles they're put in are ass ugly!
FANADICALCOWHEAD 7 months ago 10
This man would be killed in america
klippymatt2 8 months ago 29
Another scam powered by desire to get funded. Sounds great but it doesn't work that great. Just buy a 5.7l Tundra and drive it non-stop. The sooner we burn all the oil the sooner we'll be gone. What a relief it will be for the planet.
dismotrov 8 months ago
This video is 3.5 years old. This awesome air car will never come to the USA. Too many fucked-in-the-head people in the USA.
I went ahead and bought an electric-assist tricycle (E-trike) from Omega Stores,
to replace my gas-powered car. I'll get a lot of exercise in the process.
mphello 8 months ago
@mphello LOL you might as well just walk.
Cotronixco 6 months ago
solar panels on the car roof would make sense
KOmaSHOOTER 8 months ago
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@KOmaSHOOTER solar panels on the car roof would make as much sense and be as much use as a chocolate teapot
fizzguts 8 months ago
I see that the Chevy Volt uses as small gasoline engine for the sole purpose of generating electricity, what about using a compressed air engine to do the same thing?
williamblackfeather 8 months ago
@williamblackfeather "what about using a compressed air engine to do the same thing?" And what runs the air engine? Answer compressed air, and where does that come from? A compressor, and what powers that I know an petrol engine! Thank you for your idea, please go to the remedial science class, your seat has been reserved
fizzguts 8 months ago
i visited france once, and i gotta tell ya, its very polluted country just like india and china.
Tennessee44444 8 months ago
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@Tennessee44444 I visited France twice, and I have to tell you, it's nothing like as polluted as India and China, and you are making things up.
fizzguts 8 months ago
are you guys going to sell it here in THE USA ? i mosty drive 500 to 1000 miles and little city driveing .... let us know ! i love the car the truck one
mikey
FORMATERMAN 8 months ago
@FORMATERMAN Well as the actual range is 5 miles it is hideously inefficient and takes 6 hours to refill the tank with a 6 kw compressor you might now understand why they have never been put on sale. But if you want to buy a franchise MDI will accept your money no problem
fizzguts 8 months ago
instead of having to fill it up it should an air proccesor in the front so while driving it will capture air and could get compressed while driving so you dont have to worry about refueling air.copyright
patent pending
PiNo36pO 8 months ago
@PiNo36pO not a new idea bro!! :D already a concept car is there... if i find the link ill post it
bornegod88 8 months ago
@PiNo36pO OR you could put big wheels on the back so it always rolls down hill! Patent not pending but stupidity detector reading eleven
fizzguts 8 months ago
2 key items are brushed over: how do they recover lost heat energy generated by compressing air, and testimonials of real customers / sales figures to date / reviews by end users.
If both answers are met, then wait 2 years for safety eval. Tanks age. So, need home test every few by over pressurizing in controlled environment or xray.
Nothing is totally safe: a friend was killed by a car cigarette lighter when it popped, caught napkin & interior on fire while driving. Ah, amenities.
degarb 8 months ago
what happens during collision? will it coupe up with up hill driving? during cold season air pressure drops.
russellniels 8 months ago
what happens during collision? will it coupe up with up hill driving?
russellniels 8 months ago
Did anyone else see what I saw? He made a non-fossil-fuel, non-polluting car then at the last minute, decided to cave in to peer pressure and make a gas-guzzler! What a fucking sell-out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Itsmeeman1 8 months ago
And have a response to when the opposition will challenge its safety, reliability, and infastructure to service and fuel it.
GJ3200 9 months ago
why do these morons put some golf cart looking like car. make it look like a real car real people will drive. every experimental car looks retarded. who wants to drive that. change whats under the hood. convert some hondas, fords, toyota, etc.
GJ3200 9 months ago
@GJ3200
Why don't you do it? I hardly see these people as Morons.
TZMIndy 9 months ago
@TZMIndy give me $30,000 to convert my suv to compressed air and i'll do it. ;) and their morons because they build obsolete impractical vehicles for everyday life. the US masses are not going to adjust what they need for scientists who want to impose their ideal forms of environmentally low impact cars. I wish it were different because I am an environmentalist. Build an suv so people can transport their family in safety and style. At the same price or lower than whats being produced now.
GJ3200 9 months ago
@GJ3200 No you won't because if you do the numbers you will realize 200 LITER
fizzguts 8 months ago
The air can be compressed using solar or wind-generated electricity ;-)
MsJunglebird 9 months ago
Can't wait to drive and own one!!!!
MrKEGreene 9 months ago
@csummersproductions You will need a $20,000 PV setup to recharge this POC and the actual range will still be 5 miles.
I have a bridge for sale would you like to take an option
fizzguts 9 months ago
@csummersproductions You will need a $20,000 PV setup to recharge this POC and the actual range will still be 5 miles.
I have a bridge for sale would you like to take an option
fizzguts 9 months ago
but the problem in tropica air tank compressor always have water when u not decompress the air tank
nazifdaniel 9 months ago
by using battery to refueling compress air wow it can go far
nazifdaniel 9 months ago
Only thing is that it is not completely pollution free. It takes energy to compress that air, so you need electricity to run a compressor, and the way that electricity is made will pollute. :(
forrest225 9 months ago
@forrest225
If you have two carbon-fiber tanks, you can run the engine and accessories, including an air-compressor running off the FEAD belt, off one tank while the other tank is being filled with compressed air. The trick is to make sure that you can fill one tank before you expend the other. Of course, initially you will have to charge at least one tank from an outside source. No solution is 100% pollution-free, but we can get close.
pmkraa 9 months ago
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@forrest225
If you have two carbon-fiber tanks, you can run the engine and accessories, including an air-compressor running off the FEAD belt, off one tank while the other tank is being filled with compressed air. The trick is to make sure that you can fill one tank before you expend the other. Of course, initially you will have to charge at least one tank from an outside source. No solution is 100% pollution-free, but we can get close.
pmkraa 9 months ago
electric cars are stupid...batteries are wasteful, take forever to load, and run out fast....this technology is brilliant...Ethanol, Air and Hydrogen are the best solutions
dumapies 9 months ago
If they could make a easy way to extract the pressured air out of a air tank
or make you able to hook a refillable compressed air tank to a car.. then add
a way to switch the motor too electric or put a electric motor in the trunk to switch too.. then you could fill up on electric while your home and put in a (or turn on) the compressed air tank for more distance. Then you could always refill the air tank. Less demand on electricity. Dont need a plug on the go. Prices dont spike from bio fuel
unholynationmorons 9 months ago
why not make a car like this but add a wagon with an aircompressor and you can drive like forever????
davidthe1 9 months ago
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@davidthe1 "why not make a car like this but add a wagon with an aircompressor and you can drive like forever????" Yeah and the compressor would be powered by a petrol motor so you can waste even more energy!
Give me strength
fizzguts 9 months ago
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@davidthe1, Indeed this is why they do not put it on the market.
mitchdebever 9 months ago
I like the idea even if it does not work yet. Might still need more work and testing. But if there were no people who tried to find different solutions we all will be have to go back to our feet to move about eventually.
chocolatesrgood4you 9 months ago
@chocolatesrgood4you There is 150 years of history, the physics is fully understood which is why by the late 1900's they had given up on air vehicles except for very specialized applications. They have been revived on an off by charlatans and con artists over the last 80 years. These arsewipes all have in common ludicrous claims and NEVER an independent test.
fizzguts 9 months ago
This prototype never went into production and in the only public test it ran out of air after 7.22km -- less than 5 miles.
Their project is now a tiny bubble like car. It has also been "next year production" for several years, although they have not yet built a fully functional prototype.
MDI is good at getting publicity and raising money from gullible investors, but hasn't sold a single vehicle.
Charlieutube99 10 months ago
Não consigo enteder o porque de não ver esses carros circulando nas ruas, pelo que parecem são uma ótima alternativa ao petróleo.
masgoz 10 months ago
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NEW BRETTON WOODS: On this very same day, the first meeting to completely overhaul the world's financial system will take place. Other countries will now have much more of a say. This is the literal fulfillment of everything Fulford and I have been saying for so long.
This will create a massive wave of prosperity and directly pave the way for the release of clean, 'free' energy technology.
mikehanoo33 10 months ago
@roboboxA Easily fooled, green wash believer, lacking the ability to do any research or think critically about the obvious flaws in this MDI SCAM
fizzguts 10 months ago
@roboboxA The only way this piece of crap with it's 6hp motor would exceed 100kph was if it was dropped from a plane at 5,000m
It's a slow short range pathetic CON
fizzguts 10 months ago
It takes energy to compress it...
OmnipresentPazuzu 10 months ago
I am surprised the oil companies haven't killed these people. I want an air car. Where can I buy one?
Sailerrman 10 months ago 27
@Sailerrman Not where, when and the answer is next year always next year
goole
e.volution south africa Same lies in 2001
fizzguts 10 months ago
@Sailerrman Why would you want a air car that runs slow and runds no more than 20 miles. And what happens if you hit another car?
busguy100 10 months ago
@busguy100 the air tanks are made of carbon fiber so thay dont explode thay just crack, and if thay fit an onboard motor that refills the tanks as you drive then i will buy one, but thay need to muffle the sound.
regalgsme 9 months ago
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@regalgsme "the air tanks are made of carbon fiber " and will explode just like a steel tank in simlar impacts. air doesn't know what the container is BOOM. You will never buy a MDI air car because if they sold it everyone would see what a useless con it is.
fizzguts 9 months ago
@fizzguts If you really believe that then you don't understand the tensile strength of carbon fiber tanks. It's used in the military and aerospace...
gerrilea1 9 months ago
@gerrilea1 The over pressure rating of a composite tank is just the same as a steel or alloy tank. They are made to meet the same standards. They are much lighter but more expensive. 5 minutes on google will show you examples of composite tanks due to faults or damage exploding don't be a lazy brain and believe every lie MDI spouts.
fizzguts 9 months ago
@gerrilea1 The tanks are made to the same ultimate burst strength as steel or alloy tanks as set by the relevant standard. The result of rupture is just as catastrophic as a steel tank. There are examples on youtube and a bit of googling. Stop believing every nonsense claim put out by MDI
fizzguts 9 months ago
@Sailerrman they probably have, thats why this is the first Ive heard about it and Im in green building. and It's been 4 years since the video was released.
odissonance 7 months ago
@odissonance No, this con has been around for over 10 years and responsible journalists who can do 5 minutes research on the internet can figure out just what a piece of crap this is. you could do the same but you' won't., you'd rather believe in magic air cars that don't work as claimed. Hint actual range about 5 miles
fizzguts 7 months ago
@fizzguts Wow okay Its called irony. Of course Im not going to look into. If I believed it then I would. I know this may come as a surprise to the denizens of YouTube however just because you're on the internet doesn't mean its okay to automatically answer everything like an ass. Despite the confrontational tone of this post I do appreciate hearing from someone who knows more than me about this.
odissonance 7 months ago
Well, a little company in France developed a system comparable with the performance of electric cars who cost, the last decade, billions of development. I guess that if 1/10 of this money was invested in this system, they could turn it into a much better solution. The cost of compressing Air is ridiculous and the energy it takes to do so is almost irrelevant.
GabKoost 10 months ago
@GabKoost Cost to run this air car piece of shit, is 5 times an electric vehicle for the same distance. Figures Direct from Shiva Vencat the now ex USA distributor for MDI.
So air compressing is almost free. Well stupid next time you go to have a dive tank filled and refuse to pay the $15 fee can I watch the kicking you will get?
How are you getting on finding a test where this piece of crap has crawled more than 10km?
fizzguts 10 months ago
Man made global warming is a myth that is being exploited by greedy politicians who's sole focus is raising carbon taxes. Pathetic. I'm going to produce as much CO2 as i want because i know it's harmless in the atmosphere
HRHooChicken 10 months ago
Great!!
CSoleil90 10 months ago
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OmegaDun 10 months ago
dont buy into this shit. compressed air has the efficiency of lessthan 1% of that of gasoline. and do you think its cheap to create a machine that can push 4200psi into a tank? or how about the power plants supplying the electricity to power the compressors
ddevineisofine 10 months ago
@ddevineisofine
You are right about the power plants, but maybe law-makers can act NOW pass a law to have the air-compressors that fill these cars powered just by alternative power sources, such as solar/wind/etc. That way it will be clean power. But I see two more drawbacks: 1) low power, 2) noise. Since they claim the engine is so small, they should try fitting it in a scooter or something.
jezuz12345 10 months ago
@jezuz12345 So you'd make people have to buy $20,000 worth of PV's to run the 6kw compressor for 6 hours this piece of crap needs with it's ACTUAL 5 mile range. Well that makes sense. NOT.
fizzguts 10 months ago
@fizzguts Moron. 200km = 125 Miles. 160kmh of top speed = +- 100 mph. Perfect solution. Just need to work out the design but it works for me. Almost free energy, non poluent simple engine. Only american ressources eaters could not like this car.
GabKoost 10 months ago
@ddevineisofine AHAHAHAHAHAH. Man, your an ass. What about power plants to produce electricity for electric cars? That is your worry? Electricity to put air in a container? Ahahahaha.
GabKoost 10 months ago
Bless you! When can we buy these in California?
Can we make them here and create some Jobs?
Thank you.
Kathy Fann
LuxuryLapDen@aol.com
serventofTheMostHigh 10 months ago