viet ppl tend to b arrogant especially at this level they treat every 1 like shit oohh im better than u cuz im more educaated than u nothing will measure up to me) and mos of them are very racist some kill her out of envy . but who know
So sad. Looking at the girl, she looked like a kid. Its was like if he murdered a 5 year old. What makes it even more sad is the picture of her tiny figure in a green shirt walking & carrying something half her weight its was like nobody was around to help her, and nobody was around to help save her life - again so sad & tragic. I think I am going to grab some kleenex right now.
that girl was fake crying, what the hell?? but that does suck for her fiance cause he doesn't have any chance with another girl :(. poor annie though that sucks!
samuraiyao, you are STUPID BEYOND WORDS. Are you one bitter asian dude who just can't get a woman? She's a victim of violent and violent is UNIVERSAL regardless of your race...stupid bastard ..stfu
FBI recently seized a car belonging to Raymond Clark's father at Super 8 motel. According to an agent, Raymond's dad was at the Super 8 motel before the murder occurred. A SECOND SUSPECT may have helped Raymond hide Annie's body in the wall. His fiancee, sister and brother-in-law also worked in the lab. Ironically, they did not show up to work that they. Raymond probably opened a side window in a bathroom to let his accomplice sneak into the building without being seen. A RAT PACK TEAM murder.
FBI recently seized a car belonging to Raymond Clark's father at Super 8 motel. According to an agent, Raymond's dad was at the Super 8 motel before the murder occurred. A SECOND SUSPECT may have helped Raymond hide Annie's body in the wall. His fiancee, sister and brother-in-law also worked in the lab. Ironically, they did not show up to work that they. Raymond probably opened a side window in a bathroom to let his accomplice sneak into the building without being seen. A RAT PACK TEAM murder.
This is basic class warfare. I saw Clark's other white trash goon buddy on Larry King the other night. Typical cracker low-life thugs stuck in 3 gears...party, fuck, fight. Same trash that scoffs at getting health insurance but ends up in the ER with a tsunami of medical bills on the way out, landing them in bankruptcy or jail. Same trash that ends up working in telemarketing or debt collection. Same trash that can't name the first president of the U.S. but can name the current UFC champ.
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Raymond Clark did the right thing. This asian whitewashed bitch is so arrogant that she needs to be made an example of. These asian whitewashed bitches need to be put into place and show their respect for traditional american culture. Whites marry whites. Or else they will go anywhere insulting and being condescending towards all people, not just asian men. Just take Raymond Clark for an example. I bet this fuckhole bitch just didn't know how to address people the right way.
WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU! 1st of all LOVE should not be separated by race. I think all those fucking asshole who think like you should go fucking go back to where ever you came from cause this is AMERICA where MANY races coexist to make one community. 2nd off nobody deserves to die that way ass hole. even if they did something wrong. which im still stating that interracial marriages are cool. Alright Go to hell.
Sadly, you are correct. I worked at Yale and was seriously mistreated. I always held my composure and never got violent or evasive. I played there games of mistreatment and deceipt but I was always very kind. I wanted to experience this culture.
Later, they were used as my references and said I was a very kind hearted man, considerate of others but was mentally slow- specifically I need extra help with directions.
I'm really an Asshole and Super Smart, They are totally ass backwards !
Don't blame her, blame the people she was associated with.. I can guarantee you if she was more associated with her Asian roots and her people maybe this shit wouldn't of happen.. But I don't really know her so she might have a lot of Asian friends for all I care...
What it got to do is the fact that you need people to watch yo back whether at work, play, or fuck... See a guy like me I roll with about 20 muthafuckas everywhere I fucking go.. I got a big family and when it comes with family it comes with an entourage protecting the family name.. If you rolling with the wrong crowd, town and school and you happen to get in an argument with someone you don't know, you will get stuff in a wall and be all over CNN, having people sympathazing over you!!!
Why the fuck are you bringing up sexual references when I ain't even talking about it in my comment.. The fuck does that have to do with anything with what I just said, worry about whose fucking your mom in the ass every night, which is me... I was talking about her being murder and the situation it brought, don't bring up personal stuff, you fucking fagot...
this is bull shit this happens everyday but when a yale student gets killed it makes national headlines but it is what is god bless the family and her love ones but people go missing every day why did she make national headlines
My condolences to the fiancee, family and friends. May God be with you and help you get through this. It brought tears to my eyes to know that instead of celebrating what would be the happiest day of her life(her wedding) the family are now instead having to make funeral arrangements. RIP Annie
Are you Asian American Females FINALLY starting to get the message, Whiteboys have serious Asian fetish, they will try and speak Asian, Stalk you, and even KILL you if they can not have you. All Asian men must take a stand against this passive form of genocide of the pure Asian genotype being bread out of existence by these WHITEWASHED ,sellout Asian females who could care less about the future of FULL Asian babies WAKE UP Asian People!!!!!!!!!!!
one fact of the history of crime propose that if the killer is smart ,he or she made one mistake at the crime scene ,, i think the person who did this awful thing knew the building very well and knew the drawing design of the building very well too ,,, entrance ,exit , surveillance camera ,,so the killer take care of those elements and did it clean and net but ,,,,,,,,we will see
May God Bless You with spell check !!! R.I.P ANNIE LE '13 **YOU WILL B MISSED** MY PRAYERS GO OUT TO YOUR FIANCEE', FAMILY AND FRIENDS** STAY STRONG WITH LOVE "YALE DINING WORKER "
My condolences go out to this girls family. If they could find surveillance of her going in the building then they could find surveillance of the person who killed her right?? Come on people it should not be that hard to find her killer and for this family to have justice.
Oh shut up already. I hate hearing unsympathetic a..holes like yourself. Just shut up. You're not cool, you're not funny ... you're just a heartless a..hole.
immaculite, your sick, get some psychological help immediately, it's very sad what happened to this young lady, i hope who did it, is found and put away for life
HER FIANCE KILLED HER! the night prior this she spent tha night in MY arms in MY bed. her pussy rezidue still on my penis as the scent of sex still lingered in the air. i don't know hoe he found out but HE DID! only a matter of time before they figure out that this fuckin jew killed her. bye Annie you'd be greatly missed. what a fuckin waste.
it had to be someone who worked in the building....it sounded like someone was hating on her and her dude..or maybe she was messing with somebody on the side and they flipped out over her getting married..
in this day and age..i wouldn't get close to my classmates or anybody outside of my family....none of these people at that school should have known about her personal business and her getting married..
What?! Are you insane? Are you saying we should compensate for psychopaths? We should live a life of secrets because there could be somebody that may kill you if a certain situation would emerge? You shouldn't give your home address or phone number to everybody but you can be social in school. You can be open to people even in this fucked up world. This kind of thing is NOT a norm and that is why you shouldn't treat it as a norm.
Dude you really need to relax..it's not that deep..i'm just saying how this messed up world is..you can't hardly trust anyone anymore...the world has changed and if you don't watch your back and change with it you will be stuffed in a wall...and that's reality for ya ..don't get mad at me because the world is jacked up..
i don't know what world you live in, but in the one i'm in, women are freaking victimized daily..all im saying is that women need to watch their backs..you live your life your way and i'll survive my way..life sucks and it's not all peaches and cream like you may want to believe..
lol you like to reflect? If you want to live your life scared that is your choice. But you should not let yourself be convinced that you have to be scared to be safe. You should be able to live a secure life. I really don't know where you live but where I live I NEVER have to watch my back. I can walk through the centre of the city at 4AM without any worries. If you are really that scared of people and you think you can't trust them you should move to a saver place or just chill a little.
hahaha yeah. Somebody might be watching me lol. Paranoid of the pink and yellow pills mom used to give you maybe? No sorry but it sounds kinda absurd for me.
my guess is that this was unplanned. she rejected the killer's sexual advances and he killed her. then he realized he had no way to get her out of the building. i think the fire alarm was either a way of getting poeple out of the building so the killer could hide the body OR a way for the killer to get out of the building (with hordes of people) without the video cameras catching him.
This girl was a whore. She was marrying her fiance for his money, not his personality or looks. She was screwing the professor to advance her career. She broke it off with him, because of the upcoming wedding, and she killed him.
Remember there's a false fire alarm going on that day about the time Annie gone missing. Maybe it's a planned one by the killer to create a commotion and drive as many people out from the building as possible and leaving Annie behind for his/her brutal act.
not to be a prick or anything but ..i find it werid that cbs got her "best friend" to interview ..and she was at a supermarket shoppin rather than at the wedding or getting ready for it.... makes me wonder how good of a friend she really was...american news channels make me laugh..
Yeah. I'm thinking someone was jealous of her getting married, probably another girl. Then maybe she either intentionally killed her or killed her by mistake, and then she started to panic and hid her body.
They have to interview anyone logged into the buildings security system during that time frame. Who ever did this will absolutely be discovered. So tragic.
So this poor girl may have been attacked by a stalker. Since it was a security building, it had to be a staff member or another student. My guess it was a student who had an unhealthy fixation with her.
wow its sad rest annie le
smitten40 6 months ago
viet ppl tend to b arrogant especially at this level they treat every 1 like shit oohh im better than u cuz im more educaated than u nothing will measure up to me) and mos of them are very racist some kill her out of envy . but who know
samantha34ize 6 months ago
So sad. Looking at the girl, she looked like a kid. Its was like if he murdered a 5 year old. What makes it even more sad is the picture of her tiny figure in a green shirt walking & carrying something half her weight its was like nobody was around to help her, and nobody was around to help save her life - again so sad & tragic. I think I am going to grab some kleenex right now.
UCSDEngineerDoctor 8 months ago
it was sum white men that did THIS so sad tear: ; (
ladyfine97 9 months ago
lololololol
Jonscomin2 1 year ago
Inside job! Faculty or student? Or Both?
fatsotomuscles 1 year ago
they should put a clip on his penis then run him over with a truck . thad we be so funny
fwaapo 1 year ago
I knew a white boy did it.
vtwzy 2 years ago 4
was this recent?
clumsystranger 2 years ago
that girl was fake crying, what the hell?? but that does suck for her fiance cause he doesn't have any chance with another girl :(. poor annie though that sucks!
stacier333 2 years ago
She was so little and soo pretty!
Soad199Rs 2 years ago 3
she is Vietnamese ! just let u know!
andydo2007vietnam 2 years ago
ok..?
Soad199Rs 2 years ago
that all lol! thx for the compliment about vnmese girls!
andydo2007vietnam 2 years ago
lol i take it you're vietnmese..arent u lol
Soad199Rs 2 years ago
yeah im 101% vietnamses....so wat???
andydo2007vietnam 2 years ago
samuraiyao, you are STUPID BEYOND WORDS. Are you one bitter asian dude who just can't get a woman? She's a victim of violent and violent is UNIVERSAL regardless of your race...stupid bastard ..stfu
nsquarEeee 2 years ago
Does your mom count? I'm fucking her in the ass every night and tell her to stop calling me...
samuraiyao 2 years ago
FBI recently seized a car belonging to Raymond Clark's father at Super 8 motel. According to an agent, Raymond's dad was at the Super 8 motel before the murder occurred. A SECOND SUSPECT may have helped Raymond hide Annie's body in the wall. His fiancee, sister and brother-in-law also worked in the lab. Ironically, they did not show up to work that they. Raymond probably opened a side window in a bathroom to let his accomplice sneak into the building without being seen. A RAT PACK TEAM murder.
dan3956 2 years ago
FBI recently seized a car belonging to Raymond Clark's father at Super 8 motel. According to an agent, Raymond's dad was at the Super 8 motel before the murder occurred. A SECOND SUSPECT may have helped Raymond hide Annie's body in the wall. His fiancee, sister and brother-in-law also worked in the lab. Ironically, they did not show up to work that they. Raymond probably opened a side window in a bathroom to let his accomplice sneak into the building without being seen. A RAT PACK TEAM murder.
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This is basic class warfare. I saw Clark's other white trash goon buddy on Larry King the other night. Typical cracker low-life thugs stuck in 3 gears...party, fuck, fight. Same trash that scoffs at getting health insurance but ends up in the ER with a tsunami of medical bills on the way out, landing them in bankruptcy or jail. Same trash that ends up working in telemarketing or debt collection. Same trash that can't name the first president of the U.S. but can name the current UFC champ.
praizjesus 2 years ago
that guy needs to be electrocuted!!
sammyjny 2 years ago
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Raymond Clark did the right thing. This asian whitewashed bitch is so arrogant that she needs to be made an example of. These asian whitewashed bitches need to be put into place and show their respect for traditional american culture. Whites marry whites. Or else they will go anywhere insulting and being condescending towards all people, not just asian men. Just take Raymond Clark for an example. I bet this fuckhole bitch just didn't know how to address people the right way.
From an asian guy.
911reddevil 2 years ago
buddy your a fuckin idiot i can see so fuck u
Felton321 2 years ago
I'm not your buddy. A buddy wouldn't stick a pitchfork down your throat.
911reddevil 2 years ago
WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU! 1st of all LOVE should not be separated by race. I think all those fucking asshole who think like you should go fucking go back to where ever you came from cause this is AMERICA where MANY races coexist to make one community. 2nd off nobody deserves to die that way ass hole. even if they did something wrong. which im still stating that interracial marriages are cool. Alright Go to hell.
From another asian guy.
aznpierre92 2 years ago 14
Sadly, you are correct. I worked at Yale and was seriously mistreated. I always held my composure and never got violent or evasive. I played there games of mistreatment and deceipt but I was always very kind. I wanted to experience this culture.
Later, they were used as my references and said I was a very kind hearted man, considerate of others but was mentally slow- specifically I need extra help with directions.
I'm really an Asshole and Super Smart, They are totally ass backwards !
starbrighter 2 years ago
Don't blame her, blame the people she was associated with.. I can guarantee you if she was more associated with her Asian roots and her people maybe this shit wouldn't of happen.. But I don't really know her so she might have a lot of Asian friends for all I care...
samuraiyao 2 years ago
what does this have to do with her friends?
saad1224 2 years ago 2
What it got to do is the fact that you need people to watch yo back whether at work, play, or fuck... See a guy like me I roll with about 20 muthafuckas everywhere I fucking go.. I got a big family and when it comes with family it comes with an entourage protecting the family name.. If you rolling with the wrong crowd, town and school and you happen to get in an argument with someone you don't know, you will get stuff in a wall and be all over CNN, having people sympathazing over you!!!
samuraiyao 2 years ago
I agree, lol =)
saad1224 2 years ago
You sound so bitter dude. Are you sexually frustrated? Can't pick up an Asian girlfriend? Broke your nose first walking into a wall with a boner?
Whatever it may be, I suggest you get some serious counseling. You have mental issues.
cogitoergosum321 2 years ago
Why the fuck are you bringing up sexual references when I ain't even talking about it in my comment.. The fuck does that have to do with anything with what I just said, worry about whose fucking your mom in the ass every night, which is me... I was talking about her being murder and the situation it brought, don't bring up personal stuff, you fucking fagot...
samuraiyao 2 years ago
Haha, that certainly evoked a lot of resentment and sourness.
Samuraiyao, you sound like a screw-up! Getta life dickhead.
cogitoergosum321 2 years ago
i live in New Haven if i went missing it wouldn't make headlines
misfitmarx 2 years ago 2
buddy thats because your an idiot
Felton321 2 years ago
this is bull shit this happens everyday but when a yale student gets killed it makes national headlines but it is what is god bless the family and her love ones but people go missing every day why did she make national headlines
misfitmarx 2 years ago
buddy thats your opinion
Felton321 2 years ago
no buddy i'm stating a fact and your calling it an opinion now ask yourself whos the real idiot
misfitmarx 2 years ago
We don't know if it was self defense or not so we have to wait until the trial is over to make a clear judgement.
GOPChris 2 years ago
White men killing women. WHATS NEW!!
1NCEAGN 2 years ago
White men killing women... WHATS NEW!
1NCEAGN 2 years ago
White men killing women.... WHATS NEW.
1NCEAGN 2 years ago
I knew the killer was a white men. That's what happen when you date a white men. They are so cruel and violent against women and kids
frantzcharles 2 years ago
that yale thing :)
jake42086 2 years ago
My condolences to the fiancee, family and friends. May God be with you and help you get through this. It brought tears to my eyes to know that instead of celebrating what would be the happiest day of her life(her wedding) the family are now instead having to make funeral arrangements. RIP Annie
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Are you Asian American Females FINALLY starting to get the message, Whiteboys have serious Asian fetish, they will try and speak Asian, Stalk you, and even KILL you if they can not have you. All Asian men must take a stand against this passive form of genocide of the pure Asian genotype being bread out of existence by these WHITEWASHED ,sellout Asian females who could care less about the future of FULL Asian babies WAKE UP Asian People!!!!!!!!!!!
RealityBiteyou 2 years ago 3
one fact of the history of crime propose that if the killer is smart ,he or she made one mistake at the crime scene ,, i think the person who did this awful thing knew the building very well and knew the drawing design of the building very well too ,,, entrance ,exit , surveillance camera ,,so the killer take care of those elements and did it clean and net but ,,,,,,,,we will see
fastEAGM 2 years ago
May God Bless You with spell check !!! R.I.P ANNIE LE '13 **YOU WILL B MISSED** MY PRAYERS GO OUT TO YOUR FIANCEE', FAMILY AND FRIENDS** STAY STRONG WITH LOVE "YALE DINING WORKER "
SEXCBEDROOMEYEZ 2 years ago
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im glad she is dead
biomedtekk 2 years ago
how could u come out your face and say something like that?
SEXCBEDROOMEYEZ 2 years ago
u think ur safe? i hope u dont die from disease that will make u suffer.
But its true everyone will eventually die.
supertrex2 2 years ago
I've been to New Haven. It's just as ghetto as Newark, Camden and Philly.
bigart1993 2 years ago
her killer either ex lover or someone who afraid of her research in certain field in pharmacology
fastEAGM 2 years ago
I doubt she was having a fling with the janitor
DotiBump 2 years ago
I hope that when they find the killer, the fiancee gets to kill him.
I3ecause 2 years ago
My condolences go out to this girls family. If they could find surveillance of her going in the building then they could find surveillance of the person who killed her right?? Come on people it should not be that hard to find her killer and for this family to have justice.
elabonty 2 years ago
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huhuhu she's death...that body is her huhuhu i wanna cry huhuhu why is her? ppl killed the next Einstein
kk4769 2 years ago
Oh shut up already. I hate hearing unsympathetic a..holes like yourself. Just shut up. You're not cool, you're not funny ... you're just a heartless a..hole.
EndlessDark16 2 years ago
immaculite, your sick, get some psychological help immediately, it's very sad what happened to this young lady, i hope who did it, is found and put away for life
lovelydiva06 2 years ago 4
He's obviously looking for the attention.
I don't really think he believes what he's writing on Youtube.
AWDracer 2 years ago
this so sad i have a 3 friend died i was crying so bad i was careing alot to my friends
asianvicky8811 2 years ago
how sad. someone so intelligent too and could've contributed so much in her lifetime
xdramaturge 2 years ago
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HER FIANCE KILLED HER! the night prior this she spent tha night in MY arms in MY bed. her pussy rezidue still on my penis as the scent of sex still lingered in the air. i don't know hoe he found out but HE DID! only a matter of time before they figure out that this fuckin jew killed her. bye Annie you'd be greatly missed. what a fuckin waste.
Immaculite 2 years ago
Get a life!
Thudothwacker 2 years ago
What the hell is wrong with you Immaculite? You're sick! Get some psychiatric help.
mrr1980 2 years ago
definitely a student or someone who worked there. geez what a creep! hope he gets locked up for life!!!
princessasdfghjkl 2 years ago
Wonder how you came up with those conclusions...
So obvious.
AWDracer 2 years ago
it had to be someone who worked in the building....it sounded like someone was hating on her and her dude..or maybe she was messing with somebody on the side and they flipped out over her getting married..
Machelle3200 2 years ago
in this day and age..i wouldn't get close to my classmates or anybody outside of my family....none of these people at that school should have known about her personal business and her getting married..
Machelle3200 2 years ago
What?! Are you insane? Are you saying we should compensate for psychopaths? We should live a life of secrets because there could be somebody that may kill you if a certain situation would emerge? You shouldn't give your home address or phone number to everybody but you can be social in school. You can be open to people even in this fucked up world. This kind of thing is NOT a norm and that is why you shouldn't treat it as a norm.
philateliceun 2 years ago
Dude you really need to relax..it's not that deep..i'm just saying how this messed up world is..you can't hardly trust anyone anymore...the world has changed and if you don't watch your back and change with it you will be stuffed in a wall...and that's reality for ya ..don't get mad at me because the world is jacked up..
Machelle3200 2 years ago 2
i don't know what world you live in, but in the one i'm in, women are freaking victimized daily..all im saying is that women need to watch their backs..you live your life your way and i'll survive my way..life sucks and it's not all peaches and cream like you may want to believe..
Machelle3200 2 years ago
lol you like to reflect? If you want to live your life scared that is your choice. But you should not let yourself be convinced that you have to be scared to be safe. You should be able to live a secure life. I really don't know where you live but where I live I NEVER have to watch my back. I can walk through the centre of the city at 4AM without any worries. If you are really that scared of people and you think you can't trust them you should move to a saver place or just chill a little.
philateliceun 2 years ago
well that's good for you..but you probably think you're safe when you probably don't know whose watching you...
Machelle3200 2 years ago 2
hahaha yeah. Somebody might be watching me lol. Paranoid of the pink and yellow pills mom used to give you maybe? No sorry but it sounds kinda absurd for me.
philateliceun 2 years ago
my guess is that this was unplanned. she rejected the killer's sexual advances and he killed her. then he realized he had no way to get her out of the building. i think the fire alarm was either a way of getting poeple out of the building so the killer could hide the body OR a way for the killer to get out of the building (with hordes of people) without the video cameras catching him.
Mobee211 2 years ago 2
The girl with the pink jacket is hamming it up for attention on camera.
interneti 2 years ago
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This is what happened.
This girl was a whore. She was marrying her fiance for his money, not his personality or looks. She was screwing the professor to advance her career. She broke it off with him, because of the upcoming wedding, and she killed him.
Happens all the time.
interneti 2 years ago
Remember there's a false fire alarm going on that day about the time Annie gone missing. Maybe it's a planned one by the killer to create a commotion and drive as many people out from the building as possible and leaving Annie behind for his/her brutal act.
bbjujuju 2 years ago
sexylongears ..... california is 3000 miles away
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turbulente007 2 years ago
not to be a prick or anything but ..i find it werid that cbs got her "best friend" to interview ..and she was at a supermarket shoppin rather than at the wedding or getting ready for it.... makes me wonder how good of a friend she really was...american news channels make me laugh..
sexylongears 2 years ago
why would she prepare if the bride is missing?
tedhellcaster 2 years ago
when i first heard of this i thought maybe just ONE TIME this wouldn't end like this and maybe she just was nervous about the wedding :(
Juntahh 2 years ago
Yeah. I'm thinking someone was jealous of her getting married, probably another girl. Then maybe she either intentionally killed her or killed her by mistake, and then she started to panic and hid her body.
BlackKingX 2 years ago
0:23 is that a misspelled "police" on the car?
lucidferd 2 years ago
welcome to USA! now u know what ur country is and this is certainly not the last...of such crzy & brutal killing...
jbejibear 2 years ago
This is Societal collapse... Criminals deserve falling market at the wall street.
NauticalFILMS 2 years ago
Very sad! I hope the guy is caught soon who did it! Although it is a crime that there can be no equalization in justice for.
mattmurd0ck 2 years ago
how do you stuff someone in a wall and not have anyone see it . thats just insane.
fl3xt0r 2 years ago 2
So horrible! Hope the person is caught and put away for life for taking away such an innocent and nice person
hencydponci 2 years ago 2
They have to interview anyone logged into the buildings security system during that time frame. Who ever did this will absolutely be discovered. So tragic.
leahbanayan 2 years ago
So sad! I hope that her friends and family will be able to get the support they need to recover from this shocking situation.
ILoveTeaDogs 2 years ago
So this poor girl may have been attacked by a stalker. Since it was a security building, it had to be a staff member or another student. My guess it was a student who had an unhealthy fixation with her.
pacanime1 2 years ago 10
or a prof
ieodksnw787 2 years ago
whats wrong with people? why would someone kill her? awful
SAYESTOHEALTHCARE1 2 years ago
A very tragic end. A very sad story.
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What a sad story...
davidperi 2 years ago