Cosmic Conflict - The Origin of Evil 2/5 - © AmazingFacts

[frankdip89]

In Revelation 12:7-9. what does the dragon represent?

[ghostgate82]

@frankdip89 Satan. I can break down Revelation to you further through private message if you'd like. There are many good videos on it on You Tube, but most misunderstand the book greatly. Most churches seem to misunderstand it as well. You can't understand Daniel and Revelation if you do't understand the Book of Enoch. Anyways, God bless.

[Forsonjk]

i really love it, i would be grateful if you send some of your videos {Forson Emmanuel,p.o.box 240,Anloga,Kumasi,Ashanti region,Ghana,West Africa.}

[Infoman665]

Prayer for all mankind including myself is much needed.

[profesor1917]

Kick out lucifer and his goons and send them to earth? Good job man *thumbs up*

[shawn2798801]

if God knows all he would of just destroyed lucifer before he even circulated seeds of doubt.

[93n371cfr34k]

@shawn2798801 then there would be another lucifer in the near future. Doubt and rebellion was an unavoidable risk of free will

[leotatis]

nice way to entertain people while taking their money, the great industry of faith

[bheyzlovebigtimerush]

The dog is so cute =)

[MrRavege]

Where do you Get the Principle of being Good or Being Evil? Where did you Get that Idea anyway if your not Basing the Bible or you said the ''Book'', your own experience in life WEW? Maybe your the one who needs more reflection Mr. Wise Guy

[DataWaveTaGo]

@MrFundieKiller

Right, but it's also just part of the lie. It goes like this. "My God can murder, so when my God tells me it's OK to murder then I can with clear conscience murder also." This is how the elite priesthood gets the masses to do their dirty work. All religious peoples at war will kill for their God, makes it legal.

[psycofloyd]

IT WAS NOT SATAN'S WRATH POURED OUT ON JESUS ON THE CROSS. IT WAS GODS WRATH! HOW CAN YOU NOT SEE THIS CRUCIAL PART OF THE GOSPEL?

[toxendon]

@psycofloyd A.M.E.N!

[catmon14]

@MrFundieKiller Actually you couldn't believe Jesus was just a great teacher, actually there are two options when it come down to Jesus. He is who he says he is (being part of the Holy Trinity) or that he was totally insane.

[gammyjoydeaf]

I don't agree about movies it

[bhamerhobley]

I am so glad you put this story together in such a splendid way. I love how you posted the scriptures up along with the movie. This is an awe inspiring story and I bet God is even pleased. Thanks so much for such a creative work!! I would love to see this at the movies.

[TheFford3]

lucifer needs a cooler hairdo

[autumnsapphireblue]

Fail Lucifer, Fail.

[sahnie82]

@autumnsapphireblue thats an understatement...lol

[autumnsapphireblue]

@sahnie82 4:02 fail

[sahnie82]

@autumnsapphireblue oh LOL i see. :o)

[ShawnaANDElroy]

Hello he gave him choice and everyother angel had choice.

[JohnnieNaked]

Bah...if this is true it's erroneous to claim that Lucifer had free will. God knew what he was going to do before he did it and created him anyway. God could have easily created a satan that didn't disobey god.

[0121kasss]

@JohnnieNaked God is a God af Love and rightiousness, wich results in us having a free will! That includes angels as well. What kind of God would we have if he `forced´ us to be calm and obediant by making us that way. We would all be willingless slaves. That´s just not how God is, he´s a loving father!

[JohnnieNaked]

@0121kasss Is there free will in heaven?

[0121kasss]

@JohnnieNaked You bett!, God is a father of love not of demand

[JohnnieNaked]

@0121kasss Ok, so after you die and go to heaven, it's possible to sin and go to hell?

[0121kasss]

@JohnnieNaked if you die or if you live, Jesus needs to come first and then he decides if you go with him or if you will be dead for ever. (hell is a catholic invention and does not exist!)

[psycofloyd]

@0121kasss GOD IS NOT A GOD OF TOLERANCE. 

[0121kasss]

@psycofloyd where did you find this in the bible?

[psycofloyd]

@0121kasss Psalm 78:56-66; Matthew 10:33-34; Deuteronomy 1:26–46; Joshua 7:1; Psalm 2:1-6; Zephaniah 1:14–15; Romans 12:19 God hates sin. Unrepentant sinners are subjected to God's righteous wrath. If God was tolerent of sin, he would have never brought the flood. If God was both loving AND tolerant, we would all be going to heaven. Love isn't tolerance it is correction. Anyone who calls themselves a Christian and does not know that should not go around calling themselves Christian.

[laflugantabastardo]

@psycofloyd

And what do you suppose this "righteous wrath" is, exactly?

[psycofloyd]

@laflugantabastardo Eternal judgement in the lake of fire. Read the last few chapters of Revelation.

[laflugantabastardo]

@psycofloyd

How righteous! Throwing people in a lake of fire! (With death, too!) Gee, willikers! That judge sounds like a SWELL guy!

[MrRavege]

@laflugantabastardo Research, research, research 

[laflugantabastardo]

@MrRavege

I don't think a lot of research is required to find out whether or not eternal torture in a lake of fire is righteous or not.

[MrRavege]

@laflugantabastardo You don't see the whole perspective, the good question is who will be thrown to the Like of Fire?,did this people thrown in the lake of fire are righteous people?, this are the people who are lawbreakers, sinners that even God give his life for them so that they will be save, they are given a Big Chance to CHANGE BUT still resisted it and continue to do more evil things, the Question is WHEN will be the END OF EVIL if theirs no hell

[laflugantabastardo]

@MrRavege

Oh, I think I do see the whole perspective.

There is nothing whatsoever, in any way shape or form - not murder, not rape, not genocide, and especially not accepting a gift - that warrants eternal torture in a lake of fire. Calling such a horrid thing righteous is beyond disgusting and shows a distinct lack of morality on the side of anyone arguing in favour of it.

[MrRavege]

@laflugantabastardo So you what will do with the sinners to reward them for what they have done or quarantine them and what?Or Maybe God will use his powers to change make them righteous in a snap His mighty Finger, Wheres the Morality to that? It is like taking their free will to choose, We cannot change the Law ,You cannot change the law of Physics if you will drop a an object from a building it will go down to the ground because of the Gravity pulls it unless their some forces objecting it .

[laflugantabastardo]

@MrRavege

I don't "reward" sinners at all, especially not with everlasting torture. Dead is dead. There's no cosmic justice.

But even if there was an afterlife, it's not like you either have to burn everyone for all eternity OR all accept them into heaven.

If God *could* snap His finger to make everyone good, He should do it. That's what a loving person does. It's no more against free will than taking away guns from a child.

Everlasting torture is *never* right. No matter what.

[MrRavege]

@laflugantabastardo If You are my God Mr. Wise guy , I don't know what will happen to this world its more chaotic than today's Present ,I think your an atheist living only in CHANCE their is no God so their is no law, whats the point of living good? no judgement anyway, if i believe what you believe I rape every girl that you know, i shoot every important person you have , whats the point to be good theirs no God to judge you, we will all die anyway w/o afterlife, WHAT A SAD PRINCIPLE

[laflugantabastardo]

@MrRavege

If I was a god (whatever that means), I would not fail since the start, really.

Furthermore, your arguments make no sense whatsoever. I do good because I'm a good person and I want other people to enjoy their only life as well. I am not a psychopath that (unlike you, by your own admission) needs to be restrained by a book. You might want to do some self-reflection or get some psychological help because your advocacy of torture, rape and murder is disturbing to say the least.

[0121kasss]

@JohnnieNaked yes there is!

[catmon14]

@JohnnieNaked But that would go against God's nature. God loved Lucifer/Satan before he even created him. It would go against God's nature not to create Lucifer for God is a God of Love. Not to mention that Lucifer still had a choice to follow God or not.

[ikodru]

Black angels must be faster, stronger and mightier.

[ikodru]

@ikodru did that joke come off bad? was it even funny? well i tried to be funny!

[autumnsapphireblue]

@ikodru  it was awful

lol j/k im black btw

[Mulingman]

The truth cannot make one foolish

[BEEKIND1]

That actor does a great job showing the evil satan face!

[rainbowgirlkim8]

praise god



[fjalcamo]

I love this movie. Thank you for posting it. God is awesome and gives us the capacity to love Him. God help us to use it by His grace to love Him to the uttermost. Heb. 7:25

[CRX35SE]

Read my Book, "Pawns in the Game"

[munku121]

Listen very carefully, slow witted one. God had to punish those people because they were being evil. The account of the creation of the universe in Genesis is unique and not grotesque, like in other religions' mythologies. Moses wrote it while in the 40 year trip to Canaan from Egypt. He was never in Babylon or Sumeria. So DO NOT claim that the Bible plagarised other religions. If anything, they plagarised the Hebrews accounts of what happened.

[punkstreak7]

Understand that the angels, when created, did not come into a world of sin- but a perfect Heaven. The angels were very content and happy and because of that CHOSE to love and honor God. Understand that Lucifer had amazing influential abilities. If he can deceive angels of Heaven, think how much easier it is to influence already sinful beings? Understand (this will be hard) as sinful humans, we'll never fully understand God, heaven, his love, etc. until were in heaven ourselves. That's faith.

[sonoki82]

If angels had free will to either love or reject God, and if they would be punished or rewarded based on their choices, then there would seem to be no reason for God to have created man.

[Severe777]

God wouldn't destroy Satan because if he did all the other angels will think a government cover up is going on? lol... is this video serious? Well if that's the case then god IS beatable. Be logic stupid people. The bible sounds like a hoax.

[TheTruthUntainted]

@Severe777 God didnt kill satan, because everyone would think satan had a point in claiming Gods government to be unjust. So then Sin would spread all over the galaxy and cause huge destruction. thats why God left satan alive, to let the beings of Gods world see for themselves how horrible sin is. so that sin wouldnt spread over the whole world. and now Gods plan to completely erase sin is almost complete.

[Severe777]

@TheTruthUntainted is almost complete? wtf are you talking about? this world is at it's worse, and it's just getting worser. pfft, preach to someone else.

[kingerlys]

@Severe777 bad things most happen first. then God will make it new again.

[Severe777]

@kingerlys I think we both can agree any god that sends people to a burning lake of fire because they do not give worship to him is an evil, NOT caring or loving god.

[fairy274]

@Severe777 If you knew about the santuary, you would know that fire is the only way to forever get rid of sin

[Severe777]

@fairy274 lol, so a gay person deserves to burn in hell for all eternity? is that what you're saying?

[fairy274]

@Severe777 my best friend is gay, dont u think that I think about what will happen to him, i love him like a brother, and he's only 15. But what he chooses to do with his life is up to him. God doesnt force us to love him, but there are consequences for our actions, unless we repent

[Severe777]

@fairy274 lol... /sigh you still don't get it. If that was the case then this all would be a sick game. God wouldn't create a hell then stick us on earth without ANY evidence he exists and just expects us to believe him and his Jesus? If you believe in this you are a slave to your own thoughts. If you don't, then you risk eternal hellfire. It's CRAZY and it's a vicious hoax upon humanity. YOUR ANCESTORS were all brutally murdered and their spiritual beliefs destroyed because of this religion.

[Severe777]

@fairy274 Mine as well... you need to think about THAT. These new age religions like Christianity and Islam ENSLAVE us. And that's what they are meant for. Even white people are victims, their European druidism beliefs and ancestors destroyed... replaced with orthodox Christianity. The difference between our ancient ancestors religions and the religions now. The old religions taught self-reliance, wisdom, and free will. These religions teach AUTHORITY TO GOD. You do the math.

[Severe777]

@fairy274 You seem look a good person, most Christians are... but I just simply want them to see the truth... that's all.

[HighOnPaint]

The effects are laughable and the creative scope leaves much (and I do mean much) to be desired. But we cannot forget that just because this is a poor visual adaptation of the alleged war in heaven does not dismiss the biblical events (according to scripture) as being logically impossible. Remember, our human minds cannot comprehend what heaven is like, so anything we come up with will look nothing short of ridiculous. Observe with your mind, not with your eyes. Impressions can be deceiving.

[bass109]

@MrFundieKiller that is sad you turned your back of jesus christ, he loves you more then any person on earth. Christ is only way out of this wicked world. World grows more wicked but jesus christ people will be the salt and light.

[sebax1984x]

no its not just christian rationalization its what the bible says and if your a believer that the Bible is inspired by the Holy spirit then it is so, if not i cant help you but God alone by our prayers, so maybe someday the answers to the questions you have may be answered, ive gone from evolutionist, to occultist, satanist, and there is nothing more concrete than the bible, i had a long search for the truth some need longer journeys to find the answers each experience is different God bless you

[sebax1984x]

Let us all pray for Vanillashoelace

[VanillaShoelace]

Lord of the Rings is more believable than this shit.

[StMaule]

Verry interesting.

[RabMaksim]

@spiritslain How can you have prefect love for Jesus and recieve his grace in your body and soul if you disobey the commandmends of Jesus and corrupt your body with sin? Withouth God we are powerless to do anything, and as such he gives his ethernal grace to help us uphold his law.

[fishintheflow]

Sorry to contradict you here, maker of this movie, but "The Satan" was a part of the court of heaven. Read Job, if you dont believe me. When you understand this role as one ordained by God, to test mankind, it avoids all the back-breaking mental and spiritual gymnastics about angels being able to rebel against God.

[awesomepeople100]

@fishintheflow he didnt say that he wasnt part of the court.

[fishintheflow]

@awesomepeople100

The presentation here is that Satan was chucked out after rebelling, rather than being a God-appointed tester of mankind.

[awesomepeople100]

@fishintheflow he was "chucked out" when he rebelled. do you not believe that fact?

[fishintheflow]

@awesomepeople100

I see no evidence of that. What I do see are numerous biblical passages quoted in isolation, without regard to the context of the surrounding text; both in regard to Jesus and to Satan.

The pastor is a great public speaker, and makes some good points, but there are significant flaws in his theology which are not substantiated.

[awesomepeople100]

@fishintheflow he was talking to God in job because they held a meeting. Satan represented this world, so he had the right to be there. and revelation 12: 7-9: ...The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.

[awesomepeople100]

@awesomepeople100 it doesnt say that they had a meeting in the bible, but it says it in its words, just like it never says the word trinity, but it shows that it does exist.

[fishintheflow]

@awesomepeople100

Nothing in Job suggests that Ha-Satan "represents this world", rather the description implies reconnoitering the world. If Satan was thrown out of heaven how come he can attend the meeting of the Bene Elohim ("Sons of God"....angels)? That doesn't make sense. Its like going to a meeting at an office you were fired from, or being asked to give counsel to a king you sought to depose. :-/

As I said, the Pastor's Theology is faulty; he's representing a battle which never occured.

[awesomepeople100]

@fishintheflow he had the right to go to heaven because he represented this world, this world was his since adam and eve failed the test. but since Jesus came down and died on the cross, satan has no right to be there at all anymore. it makes a lot of sense. Revelation says that there was a battle in heaven. Revelation 12:7:

[awesomepeople100]

@awesomepeople100 Then war broke out in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. 8 But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven.

[fishintheflow]

@awesomepeople100

Where is this "right" and "representation" mentioned in scripture?

And Revelation is neither here nor there as its validity rests on notions regarding Satan which have yet to be supported.

[awesomepeople100]

@fishintheflow you read between the lines. satan has claimed this world since adam and eve failed the test! of course the bible won't plainly say "oh and by the way, satan has the right and represents this world..." and do u not believe the book of revelations??

[Passion827]

@awesomepeople100 the bible does claim that satan has the right and represent this world. he is known as the prince of the air and he has power over nations and such.

[505bazza]

Genesis 1:26: God went on to say: “Let us make man in our image, according to our likeness,

[505bazza]

Concerning first-century Christians, History of the Christian Church says: “There was no use of the crucifix and no material representation of the cross.”—(New York, 1897), J. F. Hurst, Vol. I, p. 366.

[Smileydanger]

Im a student at SWAU (Southwestern Adventist University) I would love to see an animated version of this.

[subanima]

I'm a graduate of biblical studies myself and when the minister here says God could have vaporized the adversary that's not accurate hence why the evil souls of this earth burn forever in hell. And to answer the question of weapons used. Try handcuffs and shackles. The bible uses the old englishword 'bound' which literally means arrested. When describing the fates of demons and ultimately Satan come the end of the tribuation period

[subanima]

I still want to make this into a movie that doesn't need narroration. It can be done.

[abtz830]

I like your example in Love. Your right, Love can't be forced. I was desperately trying for two people to Love me, but it backfires, the outcome will be hatred.