I read somewhere that the loco was not correctly constructed , and that now it's been rectified . Is this so? It certainly is a piece of mobile history , and well worth a watch. Thanks for this excellent offering
ive got to say the duke is one of my personal favourites, he always goes past my garden every now and then on a summer sunday hauling the torbay express. such a BEAST!!
I have some video of the lickey with a modern DMU struggling at sub 30 mph to get up the bank under my channel ""stapleford" just to get this achievement in perspective
Some very hard work from the fireman but sounds like the 66 "insurance policy" was working hard as well!!
shame it was in the afternoon as planned to detour in the morning that way on way to south coast and itb went through my home town of oakham later
Thanks Bob, I have to say that I felt cheated! A bit like watching athletics a few years ago - not sure how much performance-enhancing drugs were affecting the result!
@steamontheweb If it means that we carry on seeing steam on the front, then let the diesel push - better that than staggering up the bank, or worse yet stalling...
Obviously the Duke would not have stood a chance with 13 on if the diesel had been a dead weight and it was fair that it should 'pull its weight'. However powerful as 71000 undoubtedly is, I cannot believe that she would have climbed so easily by herself - do not forget we are talking about 13 coaches and an extended gradient of 1 in 37. The diesel therefore helped her effort and thereby unbalanced the 'contest' to everybody's detriment.
@fordlandau Yes. The Duke has always had British Caprotti valve gear. Residual exhaust steam in the cylinders has to be be compressed up to the inlet steam pressure during the final stage of the exhaust stroke. This is done by closing the valves earlier during short cut offs hence the machine gun exhaust beat!
The Duke's perfomance was excellent, so many thanks to your mate, I just cannot believe she could attain 42mph on 1-in-37 with 13 on without substantial assistance. That was the feeling of most people present.
No quibble about the Duke's performance, but I cannot believe she could have attained the 42 mph I have calculated without significant assistance from behind.
Excellent work Mike, quite agree with your comments about the diesel assistance. I would have been very disappointed as a passenger. It would have been far better to allow her to climb with minimal or no assistance and call for more power if required.
Thanks Austin. You clearly have to balance the risks of failure and blocking the line with the spectacle. Given the speed they attained they seemed to err on the side of caution at the cost of diminishing the contest. In fact it's a bit like Formula 1! Maybe Massa in the cab should have allowed Alonso in the diesel to pass.
I read somewhere that the loco was not correctly constructed , and that now it's been rectified . Is this so? It certainly is a piece of mobile history , and well worth a watch. Thanks for this excellent offering
mrhearse777 1 day ago
Question ? how long was you waiting at your first spot to get a good position to film ?? Great Film Aswell !!!
Pmarsh1952 2 weeks ago
@Pmarsh1952
Thanks. We got there maybe an hour beforehand.
steamontheweb 2 weeks ago
ive got to say the duke is one of my personal favourites, he always goes past my garden every now and then on a summer sunday hauling the torbay express. such a BEAST!!
jonwhite06 2 months ago
Why didnt he wave he must have seen the camara man . Ignorant if you ask me
mrmagicroundcircle 5 months ago
F A B.
BR Should have built 500 of these to run 95 MPH express trains right into the 1980s!
SteffanLlwyd 7 months ago 4
@SteffanLlwyd
That would have been nice!
steamontheweb 7 months ago
@SteffanLlwyd They still should.
fouloleron2002 6 months ago
great vid liked
freightliner86501 1 year ago
@freightliner86501
Thanks
steamontheweb 1 year ago
There just has to be a shed. Everywhere you go where there's rails, there has to be a shed. Great video, I'm hoping to catch the DoG this saturday :)
JIMKUltra 1 year ago
@JIMKUltra
Thanks. I did not have time to visit the Lickey Shed
steamontheweb 1 year ago
Great Video, 5 Stars!
60103Henry 1 year ago
great vid n1
locomotive67 1 year ago
@locomotive67
Thanks
steamontheweb 1 year ago
wow that is an old train
watchyourtubenow2009 1 year ago
@watchyourtubenow2009
It was actually the one of the most modern steam locos produced at the time (1950s).
steamontheweb 1 year ago
Nice video. the 66 did a splendid performance!
5*
KBRAILVIDEOS 1 year ago
@KBRAILVIDEOS
Thanks, and nicely put! It looks as if you were on nearby, hard up against the fence and caught the train a bit earlier.
steamontheweb 1 year ago
Great video.
I have some video of the lickey with a modern DMU struggling at sub 30 mph to get up the bank under my channel ""stapleford" just to get this achievement in perspective
Some very hard work from the fireman but sounds like the 66 "insurance policy" was working hard as well!!
shame it was in the afternoon as planned to detour in the morning that way on way to south coast and itb went through my home town of oakham later
Oh well another day
stapleford 1 year ago
@stapleford
It was impossible to say with assurance how much effort the 66 was putting in, but you are correct, they were erring on the side of caution.
steamontheweb 1 year ago
More superb footage Mike, and what a climb up the Lickey, assisted or not...Bob
robmasterman 1 year ago
@robmasterman
Thanks Bob, I have to say that I felt cheated! A bit like watching athletics a few years ago - not sure how much performance-enhancing drugs were affecting the result!
steamontheweb 1 year ago
@steamontheweb If it means that we carry on seeing steam on the front, then let the diesel push - better that than staggering up the bank, or worse yet stalling...
keelar001 1 year ago
re the assitance factor: surely however the Diesel cannot be dead weight..it must provide some power to at least to overcome its considerable mass..?
Does 71000 atill have the British Caprotti poppet valves..the valve sounds seem to confirm this ?
fordlandau 1 year ago
@fordlandau
Obviously the Duke would not have stood a chance with 13 on if the diesel had been a dead weight and it was fair that it should 'pull its weight'. However powerful as 71000 undoubtedly is, I cannot believe that she would have climbed so easily by herself - do not forget we are talking about 13 coaches and an extended gradient of 1 in 37. The diesel therefore helped her effort and thereby unbalanced the 'contest' to everybody's detriment.
steamontheweb 1 year ago
@steamontheweb thanks for that .. anyway its beautiful photography here and a wonderful loco..hugely enjoyable !!
fordlandau 1 year ago
@fordlandau Yes. The Duke has always had British Caprotti valve gear. Residual exhaust steam in the cylinders has to be be compressed up to the inlet steam pressure during the final stage of the exhaust stroke. This is done by closing the valves earlier during short cut offs hence the machine gun exhaust beat!
drummerliam 1 year ago
@drummerliam thanks for the info. This is one magnificent locomotive.
fordlandau 1 year ago
Fantastic video, I filmed the Duke at Souldrop late in the evening. First time i've seen the loco up front and its absolutely magnificent.
HomeMoviePerson 1 year ago
@HomeMoviePerson
Thanks
steamontheweb 1 year ago
Great Video, 5 Stars! I saw her at Harpenden.
60103Henry 1 year ago
@60103Henry
Thanks
steamontheweb 1 year ago
my m8 he had drive of her and hhe just opened the reg :)
MrTllr 1 year ago
@MrTllr
The Duke's perfomance was excellent, so many thanks to your mate, I just cannot believe she could attain 42mph on 1-in-37 with 13 on without substantial assistance. That was the feeling of most people present.
steamontheweb 1 year ago
Didn't sound as if the 66 was full out. I'd say he had the power handle open a few notches, but the Duke was certainly giving its fair share.
AndreiTupolev 1 year ago
@AndreiTupolev
No quibble about the Duke's performance, but I cannot believe she could have attained the 42 mph I have calculated without significant assistance from behind.
steamontheweb 1 year ago
Excellent work Mike, quite agree with your comments about the diesel assistance. I would have been very disappointed as a passenger. It would have been far better to allow her to climb with minimal or no assistance and call for more power if required.
acw71000 1 year ago
@acw71000
Thanks Austin. You clearly have to balance the risks of failure and blocking the line with the spectacle. Given the speed they attained they seemed to err on the side of caution at the cost of diminishing the contest. In fact it's a bit like Formula 1! Maybe Massa in the cab should have allowed Alonso in the diesel to pass.
steamontheweb 1 year ago
Excellent video! Thanks for sharing! - Mike
NN2Blue 1 year ago
@NN2Blue
Thanks, glad you enjoed it. We certainly did!
steamontheweb 1 year ago