that's incredible..very nice bottom deal..guys i want to ask something..how many time you need for a perfect bottom deal??months?years?..how many?..i'm practising almost 3 years..but not only on bottom deal of course..for bottom deal i have spent not up to 2 months i think..how many long time it takes for be perfect?(thanks)
well done. No, or very very little second finger movement. I'm tired of these J/O's doing bottoms and have no idea. How about a pitch bottom and not a strike? How is that working for you. You are as good as me.)
Great deal, the lack of finger flash is brilliant. But, this is just my opinion, no criticism intended, I think you can afford to losen up the deal. A lot of the times, the tell when a mechanic does false deals is not actually the deal itself, but the excessive presence of tension. I may not be getting the clearest picture possible, but the wedging of the deck into your hand is sort of a tell because it isn't entirely natural. Just soften up, since your deal is already fantastic. Great job.
I'm not exaggerating - this is the best bottom dealing I have ever seen -its perfect, even better than experts like Richard Turner and Jason England - absolutely no finger flash at all, its awesome -great job
But I'm wondering about the noise it makes... When I do it it makes a scratching sound, but they're plastic, (Casino grade) *sorta :D* and makes a noise when I deal from the bottom, is it noticeable? I mean to someone not knowing?
The technique is good but actually it's impossible to get a good idea of how this would really look like if you have an other angle towards the dealer, and if the sound is not replaced by music
Awesome video, you've got that down to a tee...!! also, the slow motion is great, I'm learning the bottom deal, just ordered Expert Card Technique where I believe the technique you are using is taught... Thanks for a quality video... :)
@4aceentertainment You won't find this technique in ECT, but ECT does teach a version of the bottom deal. I use Marlo's master grip from his book, Revolutionary Card Technique. I definitely recommend both ECT and RCT if you have an interest in slight of hand.
What is the benefit of dealing from the bottom? I don't understand how you could 'set the deck' only if you dealt from the bottom and not from the top?
@BMason3604 By itself, dealing from the bottom serves no purpose. But combined with stacking and a method of nullifying the cut, bottom dealing can be used to control the cards dealt around the card table. It is also very useful in the card magic context.
You are exceptionally good at this deal, up there with Jason England (and perhaps better in a way because you have no push out).
Your pace and rhythm is not as good as the top bottom dealers, but still excellent.
Practice the take with the 1st finger, or open up all the fingers of the and and take with the middle finger. It just looks strange with two fingers sticking out. The only other advice I have is work on "sailing" the cards, it is more difficult, but more natural.
Hi - I think you have mastered the technique, and for various reasons only use it for magic etc, not private poker games. Otherwise - it is really fantastic. Now I have a question for you - How long did it take you to be able to "Bottom Deal"? A reply would be much appreciated - any tips would again be much appreciated. Thanks.
This particular video was made approximately 6 months after I first started working on the bottom deal. During that time, I practiced almost every day and tried many different techniques. Although I could write a lot on the subject of bottom dealing, I don't have much advice to offer other than what is already in print. I think the best thing you can do is just start playing with the bottom deal until you find something that fits your hand and dealing motion.
@goldncards Great! You avoid the tell of the failure to move the thumb finger naturally when it only pretends to deal a card.To the person wanting to learn, avoid the Erdnase technique, I recommend. Hugard's EXPERT CARD TECHNIQUE, a classic, that includes magic tricks for base dealing, assuming you're not an aspiring sharper. If you are a wannabe, take it from me, being caught will disgrace you, get your digits broke or worse. It's the magical possibilities that make the ability so much fun.
the way the card spins through the air as you toss it out... is that just something you're doing instinctively, or is it an actual technique (is it called "the sail"?)?
Last thing!! There is no real dealing grip. Ive been studing for 25 years plus now and play regularly for FUN None of my mates holds the deck the same - learn and adapt what feels comfortable to you!!
Agree with many of the comments below Although why not sail deal to the dealer Too many times I see the dealer deal a straight to his hand and then sail the rest No fluidity in that, in my opinion Check out Dr Elliots for my personal favourite Grip allows all options without change in grip may take a few years to master but hey ho anybody that says you can master any false deal in a short period is talking nonsense Rhythm, consistency, flow are all things that we should work upon.
Every true magician who prides himself on legerdemain, knows that the old school of card mobs and cheats were THE MASTERS You wanna know how to bottom deal? Check your hands. Start with a bridge deck if they're small. Study John Scarne who doubles for Paul Newman in the Sting-- he's using the push off method for seconds, what he does with his thumb that is key. Most bottom dealers MUST read Erdnase or Hugard, and DON'T LIFT UP THEIR THUMB AFTER RETURNING THE TOP CARD. Use only for magic.
ive videod myself and i reckon i have way too much finger flash of left middle, third and little finger. any tips coz u had to slow down and zoom in to notice any, and still only a little
That is pretty impressive. Only a few could catch that with their eyes. The thumb holding and not pushing is the only thing I noticed.(That is only because I knew you were bottom dealing, so I was looking for it. Otherwise I wouldn't even of noticed.) Your finger movement I thought was excellent. It looks like you put a lot of time into it.
I appreciate the comment. You've also touched upon one of the problems of posting a bottom dealing video online - it's easy to spot when you know what's happening. Of course, I'm always looking to improve :)
Oh, I wasn't trying to be an ass, either. I was just expanding on what you had already said (i.e., "That is only because I knew you were bottom dealing, so I was looking for it. Otherwise I wouldn't even of noticed."). My appreciation is genuine! Peace.
Very good... The only slight problem is the speed when you deal the bottom. When you actually deal the bottom you speed up. You cannot detect that the card comes from the bottom, but to a fellow bottom dealer it is a sign of the move. With that said, I envy your bottom deal.
Very fluid - you can only be detected by the Scarne method-- see him deal seconds in the sting and how he moves his thumb. That's the master level; you are right up there
I'm very impressed, I have been training this method for a long time, but there's one thing that trouble me and that's the fingers moviment at the push off , your finger moviment it's minimal and really hard to see, good job!!
excellent keep up to good work. and its actually not impossible to pull it off for what ppl r there to look for . i get fooled stil now. and ima professional magician
well done! i'm still a n00b at this but that doesn't stop me to give a hint:p maybe you should make your top deals exactly like your bottom. When you deal from the bottom you can still see your moving right fingers 2,3 and 4. Maybe move them too when you do a top deal. That would make the action perfect!
No its not i play cards with my friends and have done this many times and one of my friends is an amatuer magician and cant pick up what i am doing if your fast and skilled you can get a way with it
Card cheating and magic are two completely different areas of study. When it comes to card cheating, speed is rarely the best solution. "The inviolable rule of the professional is uniformity of action." You should deal at the same speed you would otherwise deal if not dealing bottoms. Nothing more, nothing less.
yeah your right but you can add card cheating to magic as the pass and second deal. and to be natural is the most important thing even more important in gambling than magic
Well, you do it pretty good. The only thing that attracks my attention is the rhytm in your left thumb. It stops sometimes at the moment you pull off the bottom card.
Great vid. Thanks for the slowmo. I especially liked trying to figure out who was getting the kings during the deals. Very smooth indeed. I am working thru seconds centers and bottoms myself and would love to know if you had problems with step 5... The press in. Are you able to do that at this speed or have you altered your deck corners placement(or anything) to lessen the need. I'm trying to avoid spoilers but would love to know if you had the same sticking point I'm battling. Thanks.
ortiz, and turner are know as masters of the art. the fact that small time hustlers talk shit about them is sad. jordan was the greatest ever, but there is always thatt one story about a playground guy, who could dunk. or about a guy who played ball before ruth, who could just smash it. turner might be blind, but some one has shown him the light. and ortiz is another matter all togther.
I'll consider making another video in the next week; however, I would like to point out that I deal multiple rounds with the Kings face up on the bottom of the deck, including the last two deals which are not only close-up, but slowed-down. It's pretty obvious where those cards are coming from.
Upload a video in wich you show the bottom cards before dealing please. If u do so i'll congratulate with you. Otherwise I'll sorry to tell you that you are badly cheating to appear as a good cheater.
Ortiz is a little shrimp who couldnt hold a mark in the chair if his life depended on it and Turner? Hell he cant even SEE, for crying out loud. Anyway, they are magicians and 99% of all magicians blow.
I saw your work with white borders..it was very good. NEVER mess with me...I know it all.
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I wait everyday, for the son of bitch from Atlanta, you know the drunk weed smokin' mofo to post a video. Either you don't have any money or talent, you can pick. I know your a broke ass cause you owe everyone in Atlanta. I see no changes. You ain't nothing but an old drunk, bitter coward. Hang yourself and do the world a favor you sack of shit!
Weapons Of the card shark I got it and liked it alot total of 60 bucks But idk If Erdnase expert at the card table would b better Its 80 bucks but seems to come with alot more info
Although not eloquent, you are correct. There are plenty of resources out there that are infinitely better than what can be offered on YouTube. If you are serious about false deals (and slight of hand in general), be prepared to read a lot of classic books and spend a lot of time practicing. That's all it really comes down to.
Yes, I agree that practice is what it comes down to, but what books are used. Your bottom deal is obviously not erdnase, nor expert card technique's version. Nor is it the turner seesaw bottom deal. Then what is it if you dont mind telling?
Well, I first became interested in false deals after watching Mr. Turner's "The Cheat" video. I learned the basics of false dealing from the video. However, my bottom deal is Marlo's strike bottom from a master grip.
when the take is made is it done after the pointer finger or after the middle finger? where did you learn this type of bottom dealing? it looks like a strike but from reading the comments ppl think it is a push-off.. great work, truly inspiring. -take care
i recognized his technique... i learned bottom deal from the erdnase book but it's very difficult to avoid the flash of the left finger pushing the bottom card. then i see a conference of richard turner and now i'm trying to learn his techinique, that is very useful because with the same grip you can do bottom and second deal... but i have some problems to keep the deck in place and squared when taking the bottom...
differently from you i use my third finger to grasp the bottom card, not the index finger... i think it's better because with the same movement is possible to deal second and bottom, at pleasure ! ... of course after many many many hours of training !! ;-) bye
ok and ur not going to explain anything?
513TangoKiller 1 month ago
Wait, so do you never push across the top card for your deal?
JoshoewaGillespie 2 months ago
that's incredible..very nice bottom deal..guys i want to ask something..how many time you need for a perfect bottom deal??months?years?..how many?..i'm practising almost 3 years..but not only on bottom deal of course..for bottom deal i have spent not up to 2 months i think..how many long time it takes for be perfect?(thanks)
pokermanAAKK 5 months ago
@pokermanAAKK It depends on how much you want to practice.
gunperry 4 weeks ago
I watch this everyday starting two days ago... I'm going to practice until my bottom is better then this one!!!
7thLunaDancer 5 months ago
i like your skill.... but you should also master the sail, so you can deal the bottom across the whole table
dommy748 5 months ago
well done. No, or very very little second finger movement. I'm tired of these J/O's doing bottoms and have no idea. How about a pitch bottom and not a strike? How is that working for you. You are as good as me.)
brianzembic 6 months ago
i think this is how those vegas girls rip u off
Bigkahunnatuna 7 months ago
stop bitch slapping my deals.
TheBradTobin 10 months ago
Great deal, the lack of finger flash is brilliant. But, this is just my opinion, no criticism intended, I think you can afford to losen up the deal. A lot of the times, the tell when a mechanic does false deals is not actually the deal itself, but the excessive presence of tension. I may not be getting the clearest picture possible, but the wedging of the deck into your hand is sort of a tell because it isn't entirely natural. Just soften up, since your deal is already fantastic. Great job.
KJ4red 10 months ago
I'm not exaggerating - this is the best bottom dealing I have ever seen -its perfect, even better than experts like Richard Turner and Jason England - absolutely no finger flash at all, its awesome -great job
addictedtocardmagic 1 year ago
But I'm wondering about the noise it makes... When I do it it makes a scratching sound, but they're plastic, (Casino grade) *sorta :D* and makes a noise when I deal from the bottom, is it noticeable? I mean to someone not knowing?
stoneynine 1 year ago
I GOT IT :L|
stoneynine 1 year ago
amazing! you are great ,every nice!
jieandying 1 year ago
very nice video,you can tell you have put a lot of work into this and as it shows it has defentatly paid off
well done
dougall360 1 year ago
Tips to scam your friends:
1- Learn the bottom deal
2-Play poker
3- Scam them out when its ur deal
4- Keep talkin' to misdirect them that you dealt those cards
pimpmymail 1 year ago
your bottom deal is perfect, no finger flash, perfect rhythm. steve forte has some competition!
DeckDudes 1 year ago
y not aces nstead of cowboys?
MrJonny128 1 year ago
The technique is good but actually it's impossible to get a good idea of how this would really look like if you have an other angle towards the dealer, and if the sound is not replaced by music
JochemsKristian 1 year ago
it's good but the camera is in a perspective that a persons eyes would never be
meanman1992 1 year ago
Awesome video, you've got that down to a tee...!! also, the slow motion is great, I'm learning the bottom deal, just ordered Expert Card Technique where I believe the technique you are using is taught... Thanks for a quality video... :)
4aceentertainment 1 year ago
@4aceentertainment You won't find this technique in ECT, but ECT does teach a version of the bottom deal. I use Marlo's master grip from his book, Revolutionary Card Technique. I definitely recommend both ECT and RCT if you have an interest in slight of hand.
dcarrico 1 year ago
what type of bottom deal is this i would appreciate the info.
TheBradTobin 1 year ago
@TheBradTobin This is a strike bottom deal based on Marlo's master grip from his book, Revolutionary Card Technique.
dcarrico 1 year ago
@dcarrico thanks it realy is the most perfect tecnique ive seen so far
TheBradTobin 1 year ago
wow that was amazing, no finger movement what tecqnique are you using, is this the turner bottom deal?
TheBradTobin 1 year ago
What is the benefit of dealing from the bottom? I don't understand how you could 'set the deck' only if you dealt from the bottom and not from the top?
BMason3604 1 year ago
@BMason3604 By itself, dealing from the bottom serves no purpose. But combined with stacking and a method of nullifying the cut, bottom dealing can be used to control the cards dealt around the card table. It is also very useful in the card magic context.
dcarrico 1 year ago 4
@dcarrico Yeap very useful in magic too, like a lot of cheating techniques^^.
Which method are you using ? Is it the strike bottom ? Doesn't look like a push-off bottom.
MarcVincentlam 1 year ago
@BMason3604 top bottom top top bottom top top bottom
richishard 1 year ago
how long have you been practicing that bottom deal when you made that vid? o;
thehuynh 1 year ago
what is the best grip for this deal?
joesatrianiguitargod 1 year ago
I agree..you've mastered it. Great job !!
FmrCQB 1 year ago
well, that's what I call smooth =O
Noreply14 1 year ago
beautiful bottom deal. I love using the master grip also
unclemings 1 year ago
what very very good bottom thanks 5
TheAtfusatfus 1 year ago
Who's BD method do you use?
Featherly1989 1 year ago
Bottom deal from that grip is quite hard. I'm learning to do it with Erdnase grip.
SUBXero92 1 year ago
simply amazing ,without any finger movement!!!
the best of bottom deal
citylida 1 year ago
it is really nice,, but can you make with a bicycle deck?, cause' make that with a bi card deck it is too much more easy,,
plancha222 1 year ago
Anyone have the name of this song?
palmtest 1 year ago
that's a masters grip right?
microminx 1 year ago
can i know where u learn ur bottom deal?
B1ueNikeZ 2 years ago 2
@B1ueNikeZ google
kcg5000 1 year ago
@B1ueNikeZ google
kcg5000 1 year ago
lol, your dealing cards on the bottom,,
myelinsheeth100 2 years ago
Wow, looks very very good. I would like to see it from more of a normal angle where another player or spectator would be sitting.
jwessmiller 2 years ago
I can't say anything original. That was flawless. I can only hope to become half that good in the next 10 years.
Bleach626 2 years ago
How long have you been working on your bottom deal?
insdel2004 2 years ago
dude it's so easy he had duplicate cards or he's really good flourisher......... either one
Alvee501 2 years ago
@Alvee501 or he just bottom dealed...
149scrat 2 years ago
can u o a tut on the bittom deal
CardMadMonster 2 years ago
were u in jail? haha
8TITID 2 years ago 3
thats why u cut the deck , carry a .40 and have a pair of heavy duty bolt cutters to fix this mechanics fingers.
muskie1976 2 years ago
That's why decent card mechanics use false cuts, are good shots, and work with at least one partner.
insdel2004 2 years ago
that is Forte/Maze skill man! Holy crap you need to be selling videos on technique bro. I'd buy one for sure
THEentropyMaker 2 years ago
note to self:
Never play poker with him
J4MM3R5 2 years ago 8
lol id lol if he just placed them there and everyone was like :O, but nah awesome job!fooled me.
tQmuzicz 2 years ago
he fukin put the cards on the bottom and showed you. are you blind?
PoPPiNT 2 years ago
Antonio Esfandiari
swingdocta 2 years ago
Wow, very smooth man! You're flow is perfect!
How long have you been practicing?
OWSNubbles 2 years ago 2
beautifully done mate, very smooth!
blockz86 2 years ago 2
:O damn
SrCobaya 2 years ago
What's the music..?
And by the way nice bottom deal!
Kusmanex 2 years ago
Best I've ever seen - up there with Richard Turner and Ricky Jay - fantastic!
nickalexander0703 2 years ago 2
I am never playing poker with you.
jedimaster1534 2 years ago 11
are u shittin' me?PERFECT DUDE !
dusmanug 2 years ago
Sick bottom deal ! Im magician and i had no idea when u did deal from the bottom and when you didnt.
--yytinen
Yytinen 2 years ago
ive seen ur video b4 but dont think i comment it
i love ur bottom deal man its great
LilGunner030 2 years ago
flawless
cbtorneros 2 years ago
ur the best i've seen so far, can u make a tutorial or am i asking 2 much?
TheRebelMonkey 2 years ago 3
askin 2 much
sandharbasant 2 years ago
perfect!
brusko3269 2 years ago
WOW Dude that was soooo smooth!!! i have senn some good bottom deals in my life as a magician and this is in my top 5!!! very good 5/5
beoho 2 years ago
WOW!!!!!!! how long did it take u to get it down so well?
A7Xsnoopy 2 years ago
hay wa
likecobac 2 years ago
U're extremely good
ILessHawk 2 years ago
yeah it's a really perfect very nice Job
SeungMinKing 2 years ago
maaaaaaan i dont get how u do it, ive practiced but it doesnt look right, any tips please ?
rsmanimation 2 years ago
i need a good tutorial on bottom deal please can some one help me
magicmaster21188 2 years ago
wow wtf....u wld have huslted me easy i didnt even see it at all....it was perfect...props man
Shabaa92 2 years ago
Nice video . Could someone tell me the name of the music please?
leonardoamorimmm 2 years ago
SIIIIICK!
asskickerfoo 2 years ago
wow thats a pretty good setup
hadersnffc 2 years ago
WOW! It doesn't even look like your fingers even move.
Tyrannol 3 years ago
I just want to know what all your removed comments said
kcg5000 3 years ago
wats da music? plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
uzbek95 3 years ago
it beat my bottom deal.
:-)
dancedany 3 years ago
Fantastic!
cardmastervn 3 years ago
Exceptional technique - very well done.
EssexBoy696969 3 years ago
You are exceptionally good at this deal, up there with Jason England (and perhaps better in a way because you have no push out).
Your pace and rhythm is not as good as the top bottom dealers, but still excellent.
Practice the take with the 1st finger, or open up all the fingers of the and and take with the middle finger. It just looks strange with two fingers sticking out. The only other advice I have is work on "sailing" the cards, it is more difficult, but more natural.
Superb job!
sullivanl 3 years ago
Wow! I couldn't even imagine that it was possible to do the bottom deal that smooth. Everything seems possible. 5/5
zzMagic88 3 years ago
I've been practicing the bottom deal for nearly a week and I think i'm no where near proficient yet. You though, you're a pro.
777agic777an 3 years ago
Hi - I think you have mastered the technique, and for various reasons only use it for magic etc, not private poker games. Otherwise - it is really fantastic. Now I have a question for you - How long did it take you to be able to "Bottom Deal"? A reply would be much appreciated - any tips would again be much appreciated. Thanks.
goldncards 3 years ago
This particular video was made approximately 6 months after I first started working on the bottom deal. During that time, I practiced almost every day and tried many different techniques. Although I could write a lot on the subject of bottom dealing, I don't have much advice to offer other than what is already in print. I think the best thing you can do is just start playing with the bottom deal until you find something that fits your hand and dealing motion.
dcarrico 3 years ago
@goldncards Great! You avoid the tell of the failure to move the thumb finger naturally when it only pretends to deal a card.To the person wanting to learn, avoid the Erdnase technique, I recommend. Hugard's EXPERT CARD TECHNIQUE, a classic, that includes magic tricks for base dealing, assuming you're not an aspiring sharper. If you are a wannabe, take it from me, being caught will disgrace you, get your digits broke or worse. It's the magical possibilities that make the ability so much fun.
ArgoLupus 1 year ago
the way the card spins through the air as you toss it out... is that just something you're doing instinctively, or is it an actual technique (is it called "the sail"?)?
ilovetoeatrice 3 years ago
While there are is some technique behind the sail in print, most notably Marlo's comments in RCT, it is primarily a instinctive motion for me.
dcarrico 3 years ago
Last thing!! There is no real dealing grip. Ive been studing for 25 years plus now and play regularly for FUN None of my mates holds the deck the same - learn and adapt what feels comfortable to you!!
Magicwithcards 3 years ago
Agree with many of the comments below Although why not sail deal to the dealer Too many times I see the dealer deal a straight to his hand and then sail the rest No fluidity in that, in my opinion Check out Dr Elliots for my personal favourite Grip allows all options without change in grip may take a few years to master but hey ho anybody that says you can master any false deal in a short period is talking nonsense Rhythm, consistency, flow are all things that we should work upon.
Magicwithcards 3 years ago
this is really very good. most fluid bottom from that grip I've seen at that speed.
aflex631 3 years ago
Every true magician who prides himself on legerdemain, knows that the old school of card mobs and cheats were THE MASTERS You wanna know how to bottom deal? Check your hands. Start with a bridge deck if they're small. Study John Scarne who doubles for Paul Newman in the Sting-- he's using the push off method for seconds, what he does with his thumb that is key. Most bottom dealers MUST read Erdnase or Hugard, and DON'T LIFT UP THEIR THUMB AFTER RETURNING THE TOP CARD. Use only for magic.
devonianfarm 3 years ago
DO NOT TRAIN FIRST WITH A BRIDGE SIZE.
it's better to learn it PERFECT with a poker size and than do it BETTER with bridge size
D21400 3 years ago 4
awesome.
ive videod myself and i reckon i have way too much finger flash of left middle, third and little finger. any tips coz u had to slow down and zoom in to notice any, and still only a little
stryka000 3 years ago
That is pretty impressive. Only a few could catch that with their eyes. The thumb holding and not pushing is the only thing I noticed.(That is only because I knew you were bottom dealing, so I was looking for it. Otherwise I wouldn't even of noticed.) Your finger movement I thought was excellent. It looks like you put a lot of time into it.
Ifthatisevenim4odd 3 years ago
I appreciate the comment. You've also touched upon one of the problems of posting a bottom dealing video online - it's easy to spot when you know what's happening. Of course, I'm always looking to improve :)
dcarrico 3 years ago
I wasn't trying to be an ass, like I said if I never knew, I wouldn't of noticed. I thought you were damn good.
I know skill like that takes a lot of practice.
lol
Ifthatisevenim4odd 3 years ago
Oh, I wasn't trying to be an ass, either. I was just expanding on what you had already said (i.e., "That is only because I knew you were bottom dealing, so I was looking for it. Otherwise I wouldn't even of noticed."). My appreciation is genuine! Peace.
dcarrico 3 years ago
very good! But ur fingers hardly move! Perfection
WrexhamAsh 3 years ago
Very good... The only slight problem is the speed when you deal the bottom. When you actually deal the bottom you speed up. You cannot detect that the card comes from the bottom, but to a fellow bottom dealer it is a sign of the move. With that said, I envy your bottom deal.
LandonLockhart15 3 years ago
Practising cardwork for about 5 years now but never saw such great bottom deal! Well done!
Never practised btd, but other technics but now probably will ;)
Gorkilein 3 years ago
This was truly beautiful. It's almost perfect, very good job dude.
Myrdrahl 3 years ago
Very fluid - you can only be detected by the Scarne method-- see him deal seconds in the sting and how he moves his thumb. That's the master level; you are right up there
MTyeWolfe 3 years ago
Definitely. Moving the thumb is one of the finer details that I have been working on. Thanks for the comment.
dcarrico 3 years ago
I'm very impressed, I have been training this method for a long time, but there's one thing that trouble me and that's the fingers moviment at the push off , your finger moviment it's minimal and really hard to see, good job!!
v2swimmer 3 years ago
Thank you!
dcarrico 3 years ago
excellent keep up to good work. and its actually not impossible to pull it off for what ppl r there to look for . i get fooled stil now. and ima professional magician
kirbysir675 3 years ago
well done! i'm still a n00b at this but that doesn't stop me to give a hint:p maybe you should make your top deals exactly like your bottom. When you deal from the bottom you can still see your moving right fingers 2,3 and 4. Maybe move them too when you do a top deal. That would make the action perfect!
Great bottom deal!
M4xim4x 3 years ago 2
sexy, which method do you use?
fireflourisher808 3 years ago
he is doing a strike bottom deal.
zarrow50 3 years ago
this is impossible to pull off against someone who knows what to look for.
irateyourvideo2 3 years ago
Actually... no it's not.
gongtatoot 3 years ago 2
No its not i play cards with my friends and have done this many times and one of my friends is an amatuer magician and cant pick up what i am doing if your fast and skilled you can get a way with it
inuy101 3 years ago
Card cheating and magic are two completely different areas of study. When it comes to card cheating, speed is rarely the best solution. "The inviolable rule of the professional is uniformity of action." You should deal at the same speed you would otherwise deal if not dealing bottoms. Nothing more, nothing less.
dcarrico 3 years ago
yeah your right but you can add card cheating to magic as the pass and second deal. and to be natural is the most important thing even more important in gambling than magic
korvlada 3 years ago
can you make a tutorial of it please?
BCObozeman 3 years ago
What method do you use and where can I find it published? Erdnase's method just isn't seeming to work for me.
TheMagicalSock 3 years ago
I'd love to see this with no music covering the sound. The snapping is a major tell on the Bottom Deal.
JeffSCorn 3 years ago
My other video does not feature any music.
dcarrico 3 years ago
That is a really sweet bottom deal right there.
Bijlogg 3 years ago 3
can someone please tell me wich is the DVD where you can lear the bottom deal??
edmalita 4 years ago
Ian Kendall has a great DVD on false deals.
StJ4Mez 4 years ago
thanks a lot ;)...Allan Ackerman has some ...
edmalita 4 years ago
Well, you do it pretty good. The only thing that attracks my attention is the rhytm in your left thumb. It stops sometimes at the moment you pull off the bottom card.
Work on that and your bottom deal is perfect!
vintagemetal 4 years ago
Great vid. Thanks for the slowmo. I especially liked trying to figure out who was getting the kings during the deals. Very smooth indeed. I am working thru seconds centers and bottoms myself and would love to know if you had problems with step 5... The press in. Are you able to do that at this speed or have you altered your deck corners placement(or anything) to lessen the need. I'm trying to avoid spoilers but would love to know if you had the same sticking point I'm battling. Thanks.
tsalbwoble 4 years ago
ortiz, and turner are know as masters of the art. the fact that small time hustlers talk shit about them is sad. jordan was the greatest ever, but there is always thatt one story about a playground guy, who could dunk. or about a guy who played ball before ruth, who could just smash it. turner might be blind, but some one has shown him the light. and ortiz is another matter all togther.
kcg5000 4 years ago
and show the remainig cards too to assure that in the deck there are 4 and not 8 Kings.
gallolibero 4 years ago
I'll consider making another video in the next week; however, I would like to point out that I deal multiple rounds with the Kings face up on the bottom of the deck, including the last two deals which are not only close-up, but slowed-down. It's pretty obvious where those cards are coming from.
dcarrico 4 years ago
Upload a video in wich you show the bottom cards before dealing please. If u do so i'll congratulate with you. Otherwise I'll sorry to tell you that you are badly cheating to appear as a good cheater.
gallolibero 4 years ago
Get rid of the Bee cards. Otherwise you aren't doing shit.
And if you're a dumbass magician, then you REALLY aren't doing shit.
This deal is fair and nothing more. Stop having orgasms over it. fools.
JoeLeeBush 4 years ago
Is that so? I suppose Steve Forte, Darwin Ortiz, and Richard Turner aren't doing shit, either, since they are known to use borderless cards.
Nonetheless, I'll be uploading another video soon using a bordered deck, just for you.
dcarrico 4 years ago
Ortiz is a little shrimp who couldnt hold a mark in the chair if his life depended on it and Turner? Hell he cant even SEE, for crying out loud. Anyway, they are magicians and 99% of all magicians blow.
I saw your work with white borders..it was very good. NEVER mess with me...I know it all.
Also I am better looking than you.
Deal with that, pup
JoeLeeBush 4 years ago
I must say, you do make me laugh. Thanks for the comments.
dcarrico 4 years ago
You sir, are a jackass and nothing besides.
UltimateMint2 4 years ago
Of course, that was directed to JoeLeeBush.
UltimateMint2 4 years ago
UltimateMint2?
I am so happy I ruin your time on here. It makes me very happy to know I can piss you off and control you like I do.
By the way, pup, it's MISTER Jackass to you.
JoeLeeBush 4 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
I wait everyday, for the son of bitch from Atlanta, you know the drunk weed smokin' mofo to post a video. Either you don't have any money or talent, you can pick. I know your a broke ass cause you owe everyone in Atlanta. I see no changes. You ain't nothing but an old drunk, bitter coward. Hang yourself and do the world a favor you sack of shit!
UltimateMint2 4 years ago
Great!
I really wish i could learn these but i cant find a video tell me how.
Matty b
matthewbombaci 4 years ago
Weapons Of the card shark I got it and liked it alot total of 60 bucks But idk If Erdnase expert at the card table would b better Its 80 bucks but seems to come with alot more info
Guitaraddict185 4 years ago
dude please teach me!!. i dont really know any grips or what grips are used best for bottoms centers or seconds
DeSorteyouknow 4 years ago
where can i find Mr.Turner's videos?
markali00a 4 years ago
Fantastic! It is the best bottom dealI have ever seen.
gigaww 4 years ago
man u rawk........
speechlessforever 4 years ago
What finger are you using to push, or strike the card off the bottom of the deck? Is that your pointing- or middlefinger?
yorivdkruijs 4 years ago
This video is just too good. A little too good perhaps.
chrisbeer 4 years ago
Good dealing. Can you punch and cold deck, too? I'm hiring
MagicandMovieCritic 4 years ago
Good God!
toddzilla16 4 years ago
wow. just gosh darn amazing.
Vinco 4 years ago
It's all practise, stop asking for tuts you greedy laymen
don1161 4 years ago
Although not eloquent, you are correct. There are plenty of resources out there that are infinitely better than what can be offered on YouTube. If you are serious about false deals (and slight of hand in general), be prepared to read a lot of classic books and spend a lot of time practicing. That's all it really comes down to.
dcarrico 4 years ago
Yes, I agree that practice is what it comes down to, but what books are used. Your bottom deal is obviously not erdnase, nor expert card technique's version. Nor is it the turner seesaw bottom deal. Then what is it if you dont mind telling?
drawingmaniac21 4 years ago
I've already answered that question.
dcarrico 4 years ago
so with the seesaw bottom deal, you obviously move the middle finger back very little...inspiring
drawingmaniac21 4 years ago
I'm not sure what you mean, as I've never seen Mr. Turner's see-saw bottom deal.
dcarrico 4 years ago
what? But you've said before that you've watched Mr. Turner perform his bottom deal...which is a see-saw bottom
drawingmaniac21 4 years ago
Well, I first became interested in false deals after watching Mr. Turner's "The Cheat" video. I learned the basics of false dealing from the video. However, my bottom deal is Marlo's strike bottom from a master grip.
dcarrico 4 years ago
as learned from...Seconds, Centers, and Bottoms?
drawingmaniac21 4 years ago
Yes.
dcarrico 4 years ago
when the take is made is it done after the pointer finger or after the middle finger? where did you learn this type of bottom dealing? it looks like a strike but from reading the comments ppl think it is a push-off.. great work, truly inspiring. -take care
AnfractuousPattern 4 years ago
nice.....man....u sould put a tutorial.....
culochinonlegge2 4 years ago
very impressive, you avoid any flash of the left fingertips moving to let the card pass. very good job. have you seen richard turner's videos ?
uferrero 4 years ago
Yes, I learned the basic techniques by watching Mr. Turner's videos repeatedly, and moved on from there.
dcarrico 4 years ago
i recognized his technique... i learned bottom deal from the erdnase book but it's very difficult to avoid the flash of the left finger pushing the bottom card. then i see a conference of richard turner and now i'm trying to learn his techinique, that is very useful because with the same grip you can do bottom and second deal... but i have some problems to keep the deck in place and squared when taking the bottom...
uferrero 4 years ago
differently from you i use my third finger to grasp the bottom card, not the index finger... i think it's better because with the same movement is possible to deal second and bottom, at pleasure ! ... of course after many many many hours of training !! ;-) bye
uferrero 4 years ago