Tchaikovsky - Symphony n.6 "Pathétique" [2/5, Allegro non troppo] - Temirkanov

[thatonelutheran]

3:22 and on, wow, beautiful moments. Tchaikovsky was a genius. I'm a trumpet player...love the brass before 3:22, but the way he progresses after that, wow. 4:32 and 4:39, incredible stuff. It's like, "Where in the world is he going to go from here?!" And then he just takes you on a journey, and you get through and look back, and it's like, "How the heck did he just do that"?

[ThDV1]

At 0:46, in any art (literature, painting, theatre and music of all forms) I can't think of anything more powerful and devastating than this. With exception of the last movement of Mahler 2...

[wwjd19jeff91ynwa]

Tchaikovsky's heart breaks at 3:45...

But there's still a little hope at 7:55

What a masterpiece...

[jaakriaj]

It´s an eartquake or a rough seas??

[jaakriaj]

I think this is the best of all from Tchaikowsky!

[djmaf]

that middle part made me cry. this is the first time i'm hearing this pathetique.

[reubenshephe25]

I ponder exactly where the improper sort of comments are.

[razza1963]

well seems to be enough passion in this for the rest of the world - so were's your problem?

[violinist1990]

I died this was so beautiful.

[musikfric]

I would imagine conducting this would require you to be a very mentally strong person. if i were to conduct this i would cry of the intensity, this is so powerful yet touching at the same time, BEst sympony ever. Tchaikovsky really poured his life into this thing.

[VibrantPride]

i'm extremely mad right now because YouTube has an error and i am not able to listen to this.

[jacobkallman1]

nothing beats 3:45. Fantastic.

[aarandir]

Does this sound, if they close their eyes, to anyone like as if someone is in great agony and finally succumbs and passes away to the pain, their spirit is lifted into heaven and they see their loved in heaven and the final bit is him walking down a path in heaven into eternity. The repetitive descending major scale at the end makes it really apt.

[lyon1535]

@aarandir Heaven doesn't exist

[aarandir]

@lyon1535 Piss off you smart arse, I'm an agnostic and perfectly aware that it is likely heaven doesn't exist.

[lyon1535]

@aarandir :)

[1eloi3]

It is Pathetique!

[MichaelDPorter]

@1eloi3 No it isn't! Tchaikovsky called the 6th his Pateticheskaia Simfoniia, which in Russian means the Impassioned Symphony, not the Sorrowful or Pathétique Symphony.

[dragmio]

@MichaelDPorter Well, "pathetic" means "impassioned". "Pathe" is "passion". The problem is that being impassioned is so very unpopular now. Supposedly, we should all be cool, the very opposite of impassioned. That's how "pathetic" got negative connotations.

[MichaelDPorter]

@dragmio You're right of course - as in Beethoven's Pathétique Sonata. Trouble is, the negative connotations of the word are sometimes used by people who seem to have problems with Tchaikovsky's sexuality even though he himself did not - calling the 6th Symphony the final testament of despair from a 'pathetic' and self-hating homosexual and similar bullshit.

[mayaracello]

LINDO!

[TheTherese3]

You talk of sickness ,the man was a Edrardian, Monster! Everyone followed his course!

[CoplandFan51]

I agree with HerrWozzeck, but I think that the brass at 7:38 sounds amazing!!

[ovyboiax]

anybody knows why such a espectacular thing is named "pathetique"?

[fcmilsweeper9]

Tchaikovsky was a sick man...we all have reaped the benefits of that : P

[Gabrielcellista]

Tchaikovsky, me empresta esse seu dom!!

[Gabrielcellista]

Tchaikovsky, me empresta seu dom!!!!!

[ilyriamoon]

Beautiful. Such an emotional piece. I can see how his brother felt this was cathartic for Tchaikovsky. So sad.

[aznangelz]

7:34 to the end is what heaven sounds like

[Gheorgyi]

@CreckAndNOorth "persinando"??!!! What does that mean??!!!

[doggboy25]

Heard John Williams' Superman piece and heard this one on a CD that had the original song I was looking for, "Pas De Deux" and just said wow. I heard the horns at the end of this one and I was sold. (7:20 to the end) makes listening to this worth my while.

[b2jmx]

Es la expresión del Alma de Tchaikovsky.

[jaakriaj]

Hey,Tchaikovsky! Are you listening for that?

3:24 is amazing...

[jaakriaj]

WOW... come on Tchaikosky! You´re the best!

[mice0907]

3：19ら辺が、バイオリンの人たちが 敗北した兵士達 に見えた。

[undyingdarkness610]

breathtaking...

[bgrose78]

Gosh, everytime I hear Tschaikovsky I want to becom a conductor, standing there at the front, controlling the power, feeling it vibrating in my heart and soul...as if there was no yesterday, no tomorrow - just the now with all its mighty emotions!

[jaakriaj]

@bgrose78

Me too... it drives me crazyyyyy!!!!

[feurzauber]

Tchaikovsky is a God among Gods !!!!

[nickmaestro]

Yes Tchaikovsky! Unleash the torrent of emotion, anguish, heartbreak, and torment you've been holding onto for so long. You've let the whole world and generations to come know your might and passion.

[sergiobantam]

A melhor sinfonia jamais feita. Nem Beethoven, Brahms ou Mahler conseguiram algo tão profuso e profundo. Do Paraíso de esperança ao Inferno do medo pleno, todos os matizes da emoção humana como num arco-íris de sentimento.

A narrativa da própria vida pessoal que se remonta como uma pirâmide até sumir no seu cume ao céu!

O maior gênio da Música, simplesmente superlativo em todas as suas nuances.

Venturosos são todos aqueles que participam desse momento sagrado do Universo!

Namastê

[herakles120]

The drums...thundering, victorious drums!!!!

[Carfandevil]

I like it!

[beto3537]

muy buena interpretacion,aparte no se puede negar por quien fue escrita,ahi nos podemos dar cuenta de la vida del celebre tchaikosvsky

[furtif000]

03'44" ... c'est tout simplement magnifique.

[Luzel73]

el sentimiento a todo lo que se puede: Amor-Dolor Dolor-Amor

[roelallen]

The parts especially from 3:19 through 4:49, Tchaikovsky shouted to the whole world the pain and anguish of his heart, and his love and longing for his be loved nephew...

The trombones and trumpets parts especially of 3:49 through 4:35 exchanging cries and plaintives with the rest of the orchestra are especially heart rending and heart breaking in their pain, anguish, and longing for the be loved...

It is the deepest lamentation in music that I have ever heard... I cried too...  ♥ ♥ ♥

[roelallen]

In this part of the Symphony, Tchaikovsky cried out to the whole world the love, pain, anguish, and longing of his heart for his be loved nephew, Vladimir Davydov... (Tchaikovsky was a homosexual, and loved his nephew Vladimir, whom he called "Bob" in his private letters, until his death...) Every note and chord tells of this homosexual pain and anguish for unrequited love... It is heart rending, heart breaking... As a previous poster tells: Tchaikovsky him self was crying when he wrote this...

[apalla1518]

MAGISTRAL!!!!

[sofiabsn]

Bravi, bravi....bello, bello, bello!!! :)

[fcmilsweeper9]

How big is this hall in Milan?

Epicness.

[fbarber9591]

This piece is straight up ballin'

[claraW84]

stupendo tutto e.....un grande Meloni....

[zumpapapa]

@claraW84 oltretutto supergiovane :-)

[Ralph95Mind]

Even if the rumors about Tchaikovsky being gay and this is dedicated to his beloved nephew, I just love how Tchaikovsky pour the magic of music into our ears.

[slamboyslamboy]

i think tchaikovsky know that he will die... Listen the music of this symphonie it's not normal...

[DECBAR]

@ FungoBoy: The timpani crescendo (4:36-4:38) was not supposed to be there as it is not included in the score nor is it used in many recordings. But, knowing that every conductor has his/her own interpretation, I think that Temirkanov wanted the timpanist to crescendo up to the next loud chord; he may have thought it would be more effective to do so.

[psbgabriel]

Beautiful play of the metals. Like Chaikovsky said, "a symphony is more than a musical struggle, is a psychological struggle", this part of the symphony shows what he thought

[FungoBoy]

is the crescendo at 4:36-4:38 in the timpani supposed to be there? it's not in other recordings or in the score.....

trombones always get the cool parts =(

[Mahlerialiszt]

There are two symphonies that mesmerize me, the Pathetique and Mahler 9. Ther is so much in common between the two, from the structure of the movements to being the last pieces they ever completed. I've seen them both performed live and will never forget either performance.

[ceruleanmist111]

Ahhh, Tchaikovksy.  I love him. Don't you?

[1banders]

@ceruleanmist111 In small doses.

[minigarvi]

God, this part make me cry of emotion!!!!!!! What a beauty...so tragical...

[smileadoo]

OMG CLARINET SOLO from 6:30-7:30 = SOOO beautiful. I almost died.

I mean sure I'm a clarinetist, so I tend to care more, but between Tchaikovsky's talent and this clarinetist's, that minute is absolutely enthralling. I rewound 3 times to listen to it.

[tubadude62]

The last thing this conductor seems to be is detached from what is going on.

[futureviolinvirtuoso]

Best Symphony Ever. I'm crying my eyes out right now. This piece resembles in my mind hope for a better tomorrow. So melodic and the bass part is AMAZING :D

[bartolemeo]

Very well said. This piece, to me, bears hope, grace, joy, love and optimism. It always has. Thank you, Mr. Tchaikovsky......from the bottom of my heart.

[dreyxxyz]

@futureviolinvirtuoso Nice Comment-One of my favorite pieces-especially the march-also the Nutcracker, and Sleeping Beauty-also love Tomita's version of the Planets, Bach Brandenburg #3 Allegro version, and Eric Satie's Gymnopedie #1-the version with strings-Love that much more than the piano version, and Debussy Snowflakes are Dancing.

[dragmio]

LOL this must be a provocation! This is THE most passionate performance of this piece available on YouTube. Especially the part from 3:21 to 4:48. It's unrivalled in its pathos. So what if the conductor seems a bit detached there? The sound is what matters. Maybe if he was more immersed the performance wouldn't be this good ...

[MariaCaIIas]

I do agree that this is an amazing performance and an inspired conductor... But do you honestly feel he looks detached!?

That shows the wonder of different conceptions... I see him thoroughly connected and every bit deeply moved!

Furthermore, and I thing we are in accordance there, I have had the luck to experience him live many times and I can almost say he is one of the few genius musicians I know.

[fepiano90]

also during one of the best and most intensive parts of the piece (letter Q ff., 3:21) the cond. seems a bit disconnected, he keeps looking at his scores without "feeling" this extraordinary climax TOGETHER with the orchestra.He keeps on doing the same movement with his arm and even picks his nose in 4:12...

Anyway, I am not saying that he is a bad cond., just a bit more passion needed i m o... however, the orchestra plays beautifully and just the piece itself makes it worth listening to it!

[otherjoe1234]

well, since the orchestra did manage to play so hyper-passionately, perhaps he did all that stuff in rehearsal, so that he needn't be worried about going crazy at the podium at the actual concert. i know conductors that do that.

[fepiano90]

sorry to say that, but I'm a bit disappointed by the conductor in this part. I can't understand how anybody can conduct this peace with such indifference... This is one of the best pieces ever written!! The conductor really doesn't seem very concerned.

The syncopes starting at ~ 1:20 (bar 211) are supposed to last until bar 228, but in this recording at the latest from 1:30 on brass, wind and strings are impeccably together, but they shouldn't! I am afraid the conductor doesn't even notice...

[lsdvine]

jealous

[drizztman101]

what does Pathetique mean?

[jhasua]

It means expressive in this sense

[BernardProfitendieu]

poignant or moving, full of pathos (but usually not pathetic as it's used in English)

[mdavidcma]

hmm, seems some of you dont know what this symphony is really about..

Love for the forbidden.'

If you dont understand do a little research.

[KlimViolinov]

and i'm crying too

[ARNOLDcHU]

He was crying when he wrote this!

[jhasua]

who?

[ARNOLDcHU]

Tchaikovsky

[JohnLowe86]

Absoluely transfixing. Tchaikovsky unleashes the Russian winter of his soul, then closes with a hint of spring. The melodies and orchestration -- and execution thereof -- leave nothing to be desired.

[julienbencze]

En effet, excellente direction du chef d'orchestre et excellente interprétation de l'orchestre, Il n'y a pas un moment "d'absence". C'est fantastique!

[dermann1]

3::21 the musical cell on the Tschaikowsky develop all his impression about his death. Farewell life, in this Music we can see the abyss, the deepest dizziness of a man.

[HerrWozzeck]

3:21: The best part of the whole symphony!!!

[mrdiablodalerojo]

@HerrWozzeck I agree. I listen to this symphony in teatro colón play by buenos aires filamonic. That part was beatifull.

[lispifina]

Grande grande grande. Il piu' grande direttore vivente. Nessuno puo' competere con lui.

Questo è Tchaikovsky!

[permea]

esatto!finalmente un tchaikovsky come si deve!!!

[im2good4aname]

A MASTERPIECE !!!!!!!

[tawtsai]

Bravissimo!!

[gurtrom]

Belissimo ! The Great Maestro !