Freemasonry, Lucifer, & the Strange Case of Léo Taxil (pt. 1/2)

[ryderc69]

Most historians have concluded that it was signed nearly a month after its adoption, on August 2, 1776, and not on July 4 as is commonly believed. The original July 4 United States Declaration of Independence manuscript was lost while all other copies have been derived from this original document.[3]

[caliNYCdoja]

@ryderc69 Hey man, sorry for the late reply, Ive been working a lot recently. Thats interesting, I didnt know that. Although, you do realize you just refuted yourself with that, i.e., your claim that America wasnt founded in 1776?

[ryderc69]

@caliNYCdoja lol I was arguing the day

[ryderc69]

@ryderc69 August 2, 1776 is not july 4 is it

[ryderc69]

@ryderc69 its also the year of the "bilverian illumniati which is what I was saying on the bottom of pyramid on one doller bill reffers to the illuminati and then independance day to " what they call commoners"

[caliNYCdoja]

@ryderc69 Uh, Im not sure what the "bilverian illumniati" is. But I do know of the Bavarian Illuminati. And as far as the one "doller" bill is concerned, I already answered that, youre going around in circles.

[caliNYCdoja]

@ryderc69 Wow.. You said, "1776 was when illuminati was formed, america was founded on a different date.." So you were implying that America was founded in a different year.

[ryderc69]

@caliNYCdoja different date can mean day or year ? and 1776 oct 1 or mayday was ccreation of illuminati of our day they been at the top since then there faimlies hence rockefellers to rothchilds

[ryderc69]

this is what it was the final draft and last signature was signed on the 2nd a year later they approved the final draft for public , im not a historical scholar but I knew july 4th was the "public day" of the document

[ryderc69]

to declare independence from Great Britain, more than a year after the outbreak of the American Revolutionary War. The Independence Day of the United States of America is celebrated on July 4, the day Congress approved the wording of the Declaration.

[ryderc69]

A committee was assembled to draft the formal declaration, to be ready when congress voted on independence. Adams persuaded the committee to select Thomas Jefferson to compose the original draft of the document,[2] which congress would edit to produce the final version. The Declaration was ultimately a formal explanation of why Congress had voted on July 2

[ryderc69]

The New Testament takes the same approach as the Old:

Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, licentiousness, idolatry, sorcery, . . . of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. (Galatians 5:19-21) you see the definition you give is the definition given by those who believe in many gods/ fallen angel ideals

[caliNYCdoja]

@ryderc69 Thanks for that.. although, I dont really know why you posted this? and I have no idea what youre referring to?:

"you see the definition you give is the definition given by those who believe in many gods"

What definition?

[ryderc69]

@caliNYCdoja yeah pegan's believe there is a god for every planet and many deities/ gods hence the story of the fallen angels the fact you dont know about this stuff clearly shows you need to do some homework in to the history of pegan/ occult a lil more and not use it to explian away the bible which they take out of context

[caliNYCdoja]

@ryderc69 Alright buddy, yes I know about this stuff.

*"pegan's believe there is a god for every planet"*

-So what? I dont believe that, and it doesnt bother me what other people believe, as long as their not pushing their beliefs on me.

[ryderc69]

@caliNYCdoja you would be surprised at how much gets pushed on people? look at zeitigist propaganda has facts like alex jones but then promotes lies and trys to cliam bible is wrong taking it out of context to self worshippers and "truther movements" with hidden agenda's, you were asking me about rev qoute and I was showiing how lucifer took the title for himself, truth is eternal the lies will never survive?

[ryderc69]

@caliNYCdoja they also believed in self godship which turned into the new age theology and self worship we see today with david icke to wilcock propaganda

[ryderc69]

Deuteronomy 18:10-12

King James Version (KJV) 10There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch. 11Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. 12For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.

[ryderc69]

@ryderc69 so you think if bible speaks so highly agianst these things why do people like yourself explian the bible using there idealology? this is what I meant you shouldnt use pegan and occult idealology to explian teh word of God , nothing to do with your definition

[caliNYCdoja]

@ryderc69 I see.. Im a little confused though, what is your point?

[ryderc69]

@caliNYCdoja becasue you are trying to explian the bible using the theology of the things spoken agianst in the bible, regardless of the definition lucifer still tried to take God and christs Title

[WarlockBloodfire]

Taxil's claims in "Devil Worship in France" are SO crazy that it's a wonder anyone fell for it at all. Like a circus that defies the laws of physics, he describes the most cartoonish scenarios and dupes believed his obviously bogus stories. Everyone should read that book before getting into this stuff.

[noelpattern]

SO WAS TAXIL A JESUIT?? Its very possible,because his behaviour is similar to how the Jesuits operate, they wrote the NIV bible to combat the reformation, in addition to that Adam Weishaupt was a Canon Law Scholar and Jesuit, who infiltrated masonry left it took its secrets and founded the Illuminate, now all crimes the Illuminate commit Freemasons get the blame. Jesuit Infiltration. it's a serious charge, I challenge anyone to refute it.

[caliNYCdoja]

@noelpattern No Taxil was not a Jesuit. He was an anticlericalist. Weishaupt wasnt a Jesuit either, he hated the tyranny of the Jesuits in Bavaria. The Illuminati was a group of free thinkers, who advocated separation of church and state, and freedom of religion. The only reason the Illuminati has a bad rap is because of the writings of Barruel, and Robison, which have since been refuted. "New England and the Bavarian Illuminati" by Vernon Stauffer, is a good book.

[caliNYCdoja]

@caliNYCdoja Also, Weishaupt didnt need to "infiltrate" the lodge, and he had trouble getting funds to join, he thought the secrets of Freemasonry were to readily available to the public:

"..his (Weishaupt) study of such Masonic books as came into his hands persuaded him that the "mysteries" of Freemasonry were too puerile and too readily accessible to the general public to make them worth while."

(Vernon Stauffer, "New England and the Bavarian Illuminati," p. 150.)

[noelpattern]

@caliNYCdoja Léo Taxil, originally Marie Joseph Gabriel Antoine Jogand-Pagès (March 21, 1854–March 31, 1907), a French writer & journalist who became known for his strong anti-clerical views. Leo Taxil was born in Marseille & at the age of five was placed into a Jesuit seminary. After spending his childhood years in the seminary he became disillusioned with the Catholic faith & began to see the religious ideology as socially harmful. Striking Simularities to Adam Weishaupt.

[noelpattern]

@caliNYCdoja continued ..After Pope Clement XIV’s suppression of the Society of Jesus in 1773, Weishaupt became a professor of canon law,[13] a position that was held exclusively by the Jesuits until that time. In 1775 Weishaupt was introduced

,,, so there is irrefutable evidence that he was a Jesuit to spite he being married, but priests married in them days as did the popes and bishops. the goals of the Jesuit is to combat all reformationst ideals both Luther & Masonry are target

[caliNYCdoja]

@noelpattern Thats because the Jesuits controlled Bavaria, so yes Weishaupt was educated by the Jesuits, which is where his animosity came form. See, "Weishaupt became a professor of canon law, a position that was held exclusively by the Jesuits until that time." - That means that Weishaupt filled a position that had always been occupied by a Jesuit, until he took the position.

[ryderc69]

@caliNYCdoja reasson why illuminati have a bad rap is the fact they worship lucifer and interperate the bible improperly and they promote the new world religion and order of the nwo/ anti-christ agenda of the book of revelations

[caliNYCdoja]

@ryderc69 "they worship lucifer" - No, they actually didnt - past tense, because the Order of the Illuminati doesnt exist anymore. Im assuming when you say "Illuminati" you are referring to the international banking cartel, am I right?

"interperate the bible improperly" - Im glad you brought that up. Because I wanted to ask someone who knows the bible.. whats up with Rev. 22:16?

And whats up with this definition:

"Lucifer -brilliant star- a title given to the king of ..[cont.]..

[caliNYCdoja]

@caliNYCdoja ..[cont.].. Babylon (Isa. 14:12) to denote his glory."

(Easton's Illustrated Bible Dictionary, 1893. p. 429.)

[ryderc69]

@caliNYCdoja if they dont worship lucifer/ didnt then why in pikes moreals and dogma's does he say they worship lucifer? lucifer is not jesus, yeah in the rev qoute Jesus is claiming the title which lucifer tried to steal from him? in genisis it calls lucifer a fallen angel and prince and power of the air, he use to be a great angel till eniquity was found in him please see alternaterealities7 he can explian the bible better then I can, he is a 30 year minister who explians the deceptions

[ryderc69]

@ryderc69 everything from freemasons to occult/ new age ufo dogma's ? its those titles the liers give to lucifer to confuse people into thinking things like lucifer is jesus/ yeshua and all the rest of it? you should see how much cathlics take out of context ? or mormons regardless all these liers/ lies have ties to the occult/ luciferians / freemasons and illuminati, if there is no illuminati then why on 1 doller bill does it have the year they were created on bottomof luciferianallseeineye ?

[caliNYCdoja]

@ryderc69 Are you from Quebec? and, 1776 is when America was founded.

[ryderc69]

@caliNYCdoja 1776 was when illuminati was formed, america was founded on a different date , no I am not from qeubec and I know what the pegan defintion for morning star is, but that is wrong to interperate bible with pegan/ occult meanings which is spoken agianst threw out the bible

[caliNYCdoja]

@ryderc69 The Declaration of Independence was signed on July 4th, 1776, and yes, the Illuminati was also formed in 1776. Its called a coincidence. You mean the Latin - English translation of the word Lucifer is a pagan/occult interpretation. LOL!

[ryderc69]

@caliNYCdoja no july 4th 1776 was the public date the declerqation wasnt signed on that day and I mean using occult/ pegan theology to explian the word of god you are not sopose to do, I dont argue with your translation

[caliNYCdoja]

@ryderc69 Look man, no offense.. but youre just spitting out a bunch of jibberish, and Im getting a headache reading what you write.

*"1776 was the public date the declerqation wasnt signed on that day"* - Oh ok.. so the date on the declaration of independence is wrong? and all the correspondence, letters, etc.. from the founding fathers are wrong? Geez man.

[ryderc69]

@caliNYCdoja no the founding fathers decided to have it publicly reconized on that day when the last state signed, it was signed before hand or something but not all the states were included or somehting I forget exsactly what it was but I know it was signed in oct or something like that

[ryderc69]

@ryderc69 I know it wasnt july 4 1776 which is a common misconception, I seen it on conspiracy theory and decoded shows/ in history before

[caliNYCdoja]

@ryderc69 If it was signed in October, it wasnt until July 4th that Congress approved it.

[ryderc69]

@caliNYCdoja and when the last state signed on with the last signature at the bottom and approved it to rally america together, first anti-gov party was called the anti-freemason party and used the "dont tread on me flag first"

[caliNYCdoja]

@ryderc69 What do you mean the last state? There were no states, there were colonies. And the Anti-masonic party was formed in 1828, like 52 years after the signing of the Declaration of Independence. Anything else?

[ryderc69]

@caliNYCdoja state/ colonie what ever you got my point

[caliNYCdoja]

@ryderc69 No I dont get your point, because the colonies became states after the Declaration of Independence.

[ryderc69]

@caliNYCdoja then it was a colonie fact is july 4th was the "public day" it was signed before it by the others

[caliNYCdoja]

@ryderc69 Pike doesnt say he worships Lucifer, you have been mislead. Ill send you some quotes from "Morals and Dogma."

In Rev. 22:16, Jesus says he is the "morning star," which in latin would translate to lucifer. And in genesis it never mentions the word lucifer, you are inserting your own interpretation. Easton's Dictionary says lucifer is the king of Babylon. Soooo somebody's wrong somewhere.

[ryderc69]

@caliNYCdoja sorry qoute came from isaih or what have you, and its satan/ devil that isnt used? lucifer was always the devils name, fact still remians lucifer tried to take the throne of the most high , you should look into the bible more then just interperating it with occult/ pegan descriptions but that is another reason why I suggested to listen to a 30 year minister and ask him he be able to answer your questions better then I can, I am just a researcher like yourself and human with mistakes

[LiquidSmooth]

WOW. What an interesting video.

About the only other youtuber I liked this much was Changeling9au. He use to do some really good stuff, but hasn't been online for months.

As far as this subject and the subject of the Assasination of Lincoln, I haven't heard anyone cover the Lincoln assination as well. I haven't heard anyone ever bring up the points you brought up in this video. And they seem to be very valid.

ALot of interesting info to consider.