Does anyone know if military pilots follow the FAR's like us civilian pilots do? I know they have to when flying in the states, but what about combat zones?
@01shawnjenn This is the perception that everyone gets, but the pilot actually does not listen to the marshaller. He/she should be listening to the crewchief, who is really in charge of directing this beast. The only time both the pilot and crewchief listen is when the marshaller gives us the wave off signal or go around/try again.
I'm a/ was Marine Herk driver and my brother is a Marine everything helo driver to include HMX-1. I used to jump out of CH-53's over the Everglades when I was enlisted w/ 4TH ANGLICO. I have also flown over 16 years as a commercial pilot w/ the big D. This CH-53E did fine. It was work--but it was not a bad landing.
Not that bad, he just got caught on what I call "the cloud". You want to come down but start over thinking everything and just hover there. Once he commited, it was pretty smooth.
Well, it was not pretty but I've seem much worse. The pilot at the controls was in control at all times, he did not let the aircraft get away from him. And the "super shitter" is about the most difficult helo to land on ship. That being said, the pilot did spend way too much time over the spot and that almost never leads to anything good. You got to get stable, and then just land it....
That guy looks scary... I wouldn't fly with him.... Needs a few hundred more hours.
The Army is the only branch of service that really knows how to fly helicopters.
I wonder how many people posting these, "Great Landing," comments here have actually flown in a military helicopter much less, taken off or landed on a moving ship...? If that boat isn't flying into the wind, that CO would be getting relieved. It's NOT a CO's choice in the matter, It's NAVAIR and NATOPS rules written in Blood.
@BCAD01 I agree in the end he obviously did not do any damage or got anyone hurt. This was a junior pilot and the only thing I can say is that overall he was over the spot way too long. SEMPER FI!
@BCAD01 i know i was about to say the same thing, those things cruise at around 35 knots, "40mph". and if it was windy, hell, thats a damn good pilot if you ask me
@Iamnottheyeti Don't get me started on this boat commander, worst ever to any Marine alive. Apparently he got his ass chewed by the Commandant once and since then he has had an internal hate for Marines! Example, if you think I'm being harsh, he left us with peas and a piece of ham to eat two nights in a row for midrats! UP YOURS CAPTAIN FUNK, HOPE YOU GET THE BIG GREEN WEENIE IN YOUR REAR!!!
@Iamnottheyeti That's ridiculous, They ALWAYS Launch and Recover Any Aircraft into the wind..... PERIOD... It's SOP... With the one exception being, actual combat.
@Iamnottheyeti Well that wouldn't have made a lot of difference,a ship launching fixed wing aircraft is turned into the wind in order to create lift for the aircraft on takeoff. The helicopter creates it's on lift thereby making the position of the ship of little importance. During aircraft recovery the ships position is most critical to fixed wing aviators because his/her safe landing depends on the aircraft's [tail hook] engaging one of four cables. He'll improve with practice. YF 17.
Mannn I was waiting for the helicopter to barrel roll and turn into Megatron -_-
akzywakzy 1 week ago
Great flying skills, thanks for sharing
Dennis92NL 2 weeks ago
How was he able to stand? lol 175 mph down wash is pretty brutal
Devildog3203 1 month ago
Such a big heli for sailing!
RaptorGP 1 month ago
Does anyone know if military pilots follow the FAR's like us civilian pilots do? I know they have to when flying in the states, but what about combat zones?
22640cal 1 month ago
better safe than sorry!
Ryanmac317 1 month ago
@01shawnjenn This is the perception that everyone gets, but the pilot actually does not listen to the marshaller. He/she should be listening to the crewchief, who is really in charge of directing this beast. The only time both the pilot and crewchief listen is when the marshaller gives us the wave off signal or go around/try again.
wysocki55 1 month ago
I'm a/ was Marine Herk driver and my brother is a Marine everything helo driver to include HMX-1. I used to jump out of CH-53's over the Everglades when I was enlisted w/ 4TH ANGLICO. I have also flown over 16 years as a commercial pilot w/ the big D. This CH-53E did fine. It was work--but it was not a bad landing.
lancedero 1 month ago
Not everyone is perfect, you all started somewhere...
xCh34pShOtx 1 month ago
I think it is too difficult to land on a ship, if i were a pilot i will land on radar system of ship :))
00thelastottoman00 1 month ago
Salvaged it and made it look good at the last 10 seconds.
xxxrn 1 month ago
Not that bad, he just got caught on what I call "the cloud". You want to come down but start over thinking everything and just hover there. Once he commited, it was pretty smooth.
mutluv4130 1 month ago
Well, it was not pretty but I've seem much worse. The pilot at the controls was in control at all times, he did not let the aircraft get away from him. And the "super shitter" is about the most difficult helo to land on ship. That being said, the pilot did spend way too much time over the spot and that almost never leads to anything good. You got to get stable, and then just land it....
StreetRodDude 1 month ago
As they say every landing when you can reuse the aircraft carrier is a good landing.
krbosak 2 months ago
That guy looks scary... I wouldn't fly with him.... Needs a few hundred more hours.
The Army is the only branch of service that really knows how to fly helicopters.
I wonder how many people posting these, "Great Landing," comments here have actually flown in a military helicopter much less, taken off or landed on a moving ship...? If that boat isn't flying into the wind, that CO would be getting relieved. It's NOT a CO's choice in the matter, It's NAVAIR and NATOPS rules written in Blood.
RunningSwimmingMan 2 months ago
thats not a bad landing he was having to deal with rotor wash the natures wind and then hes trying to land on a moving vessel
afbrat19 2 months ago
This looks like the a Great landing, everyone walked away and they get to use the aircraft again.
ToyoHabu 2 months ago
@ToyoHabu especially in a 53. Worst landing ever was in a 53 on an LHD at night (Pilot using NVG) we were freaking out in back. Thought we crashed.
kuramaya 2 months ago
where's the bad landing? any safe landing is good enough...
bomichu 2 months ago
Damn fine job! The pilot did a great job landing that beast on a moving carrier!
BCAD01 2 months ago 9
@BCAD01 I agree in the end he obviously did not do any damage or got anyone hurt. This was a junior pilot and the only thing I can say is that overall he was over the spot way too long. SEMPER FI!
wysocki55 2 months ago 3
I thought there was gonna be an explosion and all i could think was "Just set the damn thing down on the deck!"
BSheehan0011 1 month ago
@BCAD01 I applaud his effort but that was a very bad landing.
jpo2084028 1 month ago
@BCAD01 i know i was about to say the same thing, those things cruise at around 35 knots, "40mph". and if it was windy, hell, thats a damn good pilot if you ask me
Ricky32908 1 month ago
Landing with crosswind on a boat... Damn boat commander could have turned his boat into the wind to make it easier :)
Iamnottheyeti 2 months ago 3
@Iamnottheyeti Don't get me started on this boat commander, worst ever to any Marine alive. Apparently he got his ass chewed by the Commandant once and since then he has had an internal hate for Marines! Example, if you think I'm being harsh, he left us with peas and a piece of ham to eat two nights in a row for midrats! UP YOURS CAPTAIN FUNK, HOPE YOU GET THE BIG GREEN WEENIE IN YOUR REAR!!!
wysocki55 2 months ago 4
@Iamnottheyeti That's ridiculous, They ALWAYS Launch and Recover Any Aircraft into the wind..... PERIOD... It's SOP... With the one exception being, actual combat.
RunningSwimmingMan 2 months ago
@Iamnottheyeti Well that wouldn't have made a lot of difference,a ship launching fixed wing aircraft is turned into the wind in order to create lift for the aircraft on takeoff. The helicopter creates it's on lift thereby making the position of the ship of little importance. During aircraft recovery the ships position is most critical to fixed wing aviators because his/her safe landing depends on the aircraft's [tail hook] engaging one of four cables. He'll improve with practice. YF 17.
jpo2084028 1 month ago
this is not that bad. my 'fake' chopper landing many times worse than this (fsx lol).
capespring 2 months ago
wow that man risks his life there... a wrong move from the pilot and he's chopped
iSwayzak 3 months ago