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  • What's so shocking? Old M3 against a newer 335i. What did you expect?

  • Im sure this is a high elevation

  • yeah that sucks but hey thats why its got turbos, they will always have the best top end. Plain and simple, the m3 is a master piece of N/A and the 335i was just bmws new line of "cheap power" switching over to Turbos like most euros out there. The next m3 is going to be boosted as well so get ready cuz its cost a NUT sack....

  • Who would honestly take a 335i over an E46 M3. the only reason you would buy a 335i is because you cant afford a E92 M3 simple as.

  • I own a 335i, and I must say it is a bit quicker in a straight line. I'm pretty sure it would change once you start to use the brakes a lot though... The 335 handles beautifully, but it wont stop as well as any M car.

  • lol i owe an e46 m3 i only put an exaust and 335 is sucking all tha way

  • This is utter bull owner of e46 mr cannot drive. I have an e46 m3 and I smoke my friends 07 or 08 335 all the time. To make it fair once I stuffed all my friends in my car and himslef in his car and still pulled about 1 car away from him. All he can say is that his car will be faser once he gets a jbl3 or some bull shit chip. Truth is e46 m3 is a beast although the interior blows compared to the 335

  • @FranciscoHxA310 you really are 1 of those e46 fanboys, stock to stock car the 335i is faster in everyway than the e46 M3( yes even around the track) only then the V8 M3 was better but not by a lot. was really sad that when the 335i coupe came out in 2007, BMW was still selling the e43 by $15k+ more than the 335i. BTW i have taken a lot of stock e43 M3 and now that i have JB4, catless DP and exaust, and DCI my friend that has a new M3 wont even try to race me since he had a 135i JB4 ^^

  • .....ha ha ha ha to all M3 e46 owners.....

  • technology of 2007 vs 2001.

  • ok i would say this again stock to stock car, the 335i is faster than the E46 M3, BMW underates the 335 i saying it comes with 300 HP which in reality come from anywhere from 330 tp 350 HP, btw if you didnt knw the 335 does better in the in the racetrack to(dont believe me LOOK IT UP!) dont get me wrong the E46 M3 is a great car , specially the HORSEPOWERFREAKS 1 but unles you turbo it or super charged it you wont get to much power out of the Natural aspirated E46 engine

  • i doubt that 335 is stock. he most likely has a few mods. unless that M3 is a convertible. the 335 weigh 300lbs. more than an E46 M3 coupe. also the longer you go for the M3 should be slowing waking on the 335, because it breaths better on the top end.

  • I dont know about Europian version but I have a E46 M3 standard and I was a little bit faster than a guy with 135 with a little bit mod and his GF on his car.

  • the 335i must be mapped otherwise this outcome is impossible

  • so that been said for all those e46 M3's lovers ^^ do the math e46 M3 < 335i < V8 M3 2008 and up ^^( all stock cars. jb3 335i another new level ^^)

  • ok for the ppl that dosnt knw this , the 335i is faster in every spec than the e46 m3(acceleration, breaking, turning, 1/4, etc etc); second: the e46 m3 doesnt have more horsepower than the 335i, yes acording to the BMW yes it does but it is proven that the 335i comes with ~350HP stock and no 300HP like they say(which is more that the e46 M3 with ~333HP) ppl believe BMW did this cuz when the 335i came out in 2007 ,BMW was still selling the e46 M3 for about ~$14k+ more than the 335i

  • It's very believable. The E46 was slightly underpowered. Not for its time, but for it's potential.

  • that 335cis is wicked fast. I drove a 2011 model a few miles for work tonite, and that thing is VERY fast. I got a very good feel for it :)

  • This surely proves 335i is faster than e46 m3 stock for stock... hard to believe but darn it, its true... I used to be a e46 m3 fanatic but I just had a "revelation"

  • I love my 328i. Only mod is a Signature Motoring performance intake kit. They run around $170 and add up to 9HP in the E46 323/325/328 and up to 13.9HP in the 330. That's about $17/per extra HP... A good value for the extra oomph. General HP increases are shown:

    E30 series: 6.0-13.4hp gain

    E36 series: 5.5-12hp gain

    E46 series: 6.0-13.9hp gain

    E92 series: 8.5+ hp gain

    Z3/Z4 (all): 5.5-13.9hp gain

    See my channel videos for action!

  • wow 335i is faster??

  • m3 driver is not so good...but they both so fast...i love both cars..i got a 2005 bmw 325i.i will sell it next week .buy me which one i cant decide..

  • I think they are very close on a drag race. In fact the stock 335i tested up to 340hp in our local dyno ( and not only the claimed 306 hp). The TQ figures are very high too and that favors the 335i in a roll on. Maybe, just maybe, the e46M3 would gain some ground when both reach speeds closer to their top, because the N54 turbo doesn't have a high rpm rush as the old M3.

    But at the race track I think the e46 M3 would easily win over the 135i or the 335i .

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  • its a 8 year old E46 m3 still keeping up with 335i,lets see a e92 m3 stock or modded vs a stock or modded 335i ad get raped.

  • @kay19833

    well thats obvious when one has 120+ BPH more then the other.

    And is about 30 k more expensive. How many 335's have you raped in YOUR e92?

  • It's easy to get 360bhp out of a 335 and once done it will have alot more torque than an e46. But e46 is a wicked car all in I love them :-)

  • they're about even.

  • they guy with the M3 E46 must be a bad driver.. M3 is faster.

  • drag racing a BMW is like taking a hooker fishing, fun but not why you bought her,

  • yesss 335 is fasterrrr

  • The sound of both cars accelerating at 1:14 is awesome

  • ma com'è posibile? secondo me la 335 è elaborata un pò

  • BMW makes everything you need :) to burn rice

  • unless im blind, the 335I was faster then the M3s on all races

  • i am sure the M3 was a convertible cabrio

  • although they are both great cars i dont think bmw will be able to top the last generation of e46 bmw 3's

  • 335 is ein starkes auto aber nicht so stark wie ein M3!!

    die 335 haben meistents eine chiptuning und weil sie eine turbolader haben holen sie mehr leistung raus sonst (serienmäßig) keine chance gegen ein m3!!

    M POWER

  • Good match-up. I think the M3 has a lot more soul and is likely more fun to drive. But, speed-wise, you can't go wrong with the 335i. It's just so cheap to make them really fast.

  • hahahah its same 335i like m3 hahahaha

  • m3 e46 is better on the track than that 335

  • End of the day who cares if a tuned jb 3 could beat an M3. All the time if i owned the 335 your always one step behind an M car. M3 looks nice and I'm a 997 Porsche owner now. Id still get another M3 over any 3333356899i turbo what ever.

  • no none "m" badged standard bmw has ever had factory 0-62 performance figures below "m" cars, e92 335i 0-62 5.5 e46 0-62 4.8 doh!

  • Agree. My old e46 m3 would blow any 335i on the track.

  • DAMN ASS DRIVERS???

  • idk man i'd rather be pushin a m3...

  • Do not underestimate the 335i it's powerful...they say that BMW lied with it figures..it is faster than they say so people won't lose demand on the m3...that what i heard....infact I own a 335i with a Double Clutch Transmission it's deadly fast!! :D

  • your stupid .. there is no such thing as a 335i with double clutch tran.

  • Check againand READ on the BMW website o the 3 series coupe cataloge or the website.....I own a Double Clutch Transmission on my 335i :S

  • @ahmdawi OMG your fuking dumb DTC= M3

  • Well why don't you check the website of BMW? or just Google BMW 335i Double Clutch both for website and images...and then come back here and show us ur comment :) and we will see who's dumb and stupid....even the new Z4 has a Double Clutch

  • @jOeYBMeW

    2011 335iS man, google for it

  • i can not believe it

    wtf

  • @DEADmetal3

    335i has more torque but less hp.

    straighline race is very even between these cars but around the track an m3 with is a bit better.

  • @milzy83 yes but M3 must have more HP than 335i which appear in wider RPM range. And even if 335i is more powerful, E36 is a lot lighter.

  • @DEADmetal3 i think the e46 is not soo much lighter than a 335i.

    yes e36 is really light compared to a 335i. You also have to remember 335i is dct which is super slick shifting is sport mode!!!

    i'm not surprised with the result in the clip. 0-60 m3 would win but from 20/30 with a twin turbo and more torque its even or favouring the 335i.

  • @milzy83 oh its E46, i'm surprised that i thought it was E36. And yeah i totaly agree with you

  • @milzy83 Actually not the case.. there are plenty of dyno tests of a stock 335i putting down 266 hp at the wheels which translates to 333 hp at the crank... so its dead even... the advantage comes with the 278 lb ft torque at the wheels with the 335i which is better than the E46.... the 335i's hp is underrated by BMW

  • @phv628 True the engine is underated but no sure 260hp translates to 333hp.

    My 135i done 257.5whp and 311hp at the flyweel last summer (hot day)

    It was on a dyno dynamics (heart breaker dyno)

    Still M cars are superior to the 135i/335i as they'remore for comfort/practicality.

  • @phv628 Just bought an e46 m3, ive already beat a 335. we raced all the way to the end of 5th gear and i pulled about 3 cars. This guy in the video whos driving the m3 is a terrible driver. You can here him granny shifting. My m3 is stock, but all and all i cant hate on a 335i they are very nice cars and get better fuel economy than my m3.

  • @integraballa97 I have a 2009 335i xdrive and the power delivery is different. I test drove a 2006 E46 M3 and it was a very well balanced car. The suspension was quite a bit stiffer and I loved the sound of the exhaust. I can't hate on either car because I love them both equally. I found the acceleration to be quite similar with the 335i accelerating with a strong punch once the turbos are at full boost whereas the M3 had instantaneous throttle response.

  • @integraballa97 not you didnt if you e46 is stock

  • 335i automatic is an everyday car, in the traffic is confy and in the track is very fast. The M3 is hard and unconfortable in the traffic. That may be a good reason to choose the 335

  • The n54 (335i's engine) is so underrated. Independent testing revealed that the 335i was making closer to 320hp stock and 310lbs torque than 306/300. Plus with $379 for a Juice Box 3 (or $579 for the easier to install Plug n play) you can make a min of 80whp/92hp to 180whp/207 additional hp... by cranking up the PSI of the turbos.

    The N54 was International engine of the Year 2 times (07'/08')!

    Something about Direct Injection, Twin turbo inline 6's known for their smooth revving power.

  • m3 looks and sounds much better anyway + its a better image.

  • Drivers race! Now let it go. On average 335 is a 13.6 1/4 mile car most of the time. E46 m3 is 13.4 1/4 all day! People have pulled quicker times in both cars. Stock for stock pretty much the same, with all things being equal driver, track, road conditions, temperature, and elevation slight advantage to M3 Stock.

  • Don't know where you're getting your information from, but it's well documented that a stock 335i will run the quarter mile in 13.4 as you claim the M3 will. The 135i will on average be 0.1-0.15 quicker on every test of accelleration vs the 335i and e46 M3.

  • actually, Edmunds did a review on the 135, 335 and the E46, the 135, 335 had quicker salom and 0-100 times, but E46 still had a quicker track time.

    I'm sure u can pretty easily find this review, i found it on youtube last night.

  • top gear power lap times show that the e46 has the same time as a 535d, so a 135i and a 335i would definately be faster.

    just the nature of how technology goes. the GT-R is faster than ferraris around the track. In the end of the day, it's just what car you rather be seen in.

    As fast as the Hyundai genesis gets, that car is still going to be a piece.

    i'll stick to my e92. ^__^

  • What the fuck are BMW thinking... sold my M3 anyway, 996 boy now.

  • Even if the 335i is faster, we probably all agree that we would rather be seen driving an m3 right :-). I would even rather have an e36 M3 instead of that average looking 3-series :-). It's just that all these modern BMW's look so damn average.

  • So true. I think the 335i is ugly and has no appeal. Anything that carries the M badge has respect from everyone on the road even ferraris. They have class, style, speed, and a subtle aggressive look. It will be timeless. I also think the e46 looks better than the e92

  • @pterribilis I own an E46 M3 ///M 2004

    Me too I also think the E46 looks better than the E92... I think it is too bad because obviously the E92 is faster... But due to the fact the E46 is sexier then I feel like keeping it instead of getting the new M3... it sucks really...

  • I own a E92 330i convert...and totally disagree with you.

    Or maybe its just a question of taste....what looks good to u, might not look good to me.

  • better looking or not, its still slower, and speed is the main reason you even thought about buying that M3. get with the times man. your E46 cant even beat the standard non M3 version of the newer line

  • Hmmyeah, and the 335i is the only non-M3 of the 3-series. Nice world you live in dude.

  • Yes, that's true, but a BMW without an M-badge, may also be worth something. Actually, for some people, the badge comes second, first the figures. What do you care about : people THINK a car is fast, or a car that IS fast ?

  • I gotta say... the performance of that 335 can matche that m3......but the driving experience sure can't

  • Only an idiot would post straight line drags of a BMW. BMW is known for speed in the curves. But cool a 335i can match the 9 year old M car design. Who would have figured that given it has a turbo....

  • @krapfeaster exactly. I think you aren't buying a BMW unless it has an M badge. I think Audi's are better appointed then their non-M counterparts. The E46 in my eyes will is timeless. The engineering and performance of the car along with its clever design/subtle aesthetics are just so proper. I don't think they will ever achieve such a beautiful car again.

  • 335 is a very nice car... very sedate, fast, and relatively quiet compared to an E46 ///M3. Who gives a fuck which is faster in straight-line?

    335 is an Everyman car. E46 ///M3 is best appreciated and driven by those that understand her.

  • M3 not for drag.... M3 for track day ;)

  • the reason why the 335i won is because the engine technology is improved in comparison to the old m3 engine.

    for example. I raced my friend´s mini cooper GP (built 2005 with 218 hp, and 1050 kg) with a mini cooper s (built 2009, 175 hp and 1300 kg) and it was !!!! DRAW !!!!

    so there´s no "some maybe have 360hp stock" shit, but the engines get better and better through new technologies...

  • very smart/true statement, i know what you mean like each year they make new changes/updates.....

  • um...no. The S54 inst behind the 335is engine in terms of technology. The 335i has a turbo, thats why it will win. Blow the S54, it has better internals, its a superior platform, period. 335 is a nice car, but its a turboed grocery getter. Lets keep some perspective. The now 9 year old E46M3 still beats the 335i and the 135i around the track.

  • Um...aha...

    first of all...the 335i has two turbos...and to be honest... I don´t hink that the m3 e46 can beat either the 135i or the 335i around a track..but would be an interesting comparison!!! maybe someone will test that ;-)

    Cheers

  • um... firstly when one refers to a car being turboed or having a turbo, it refers to the car having a turbocharger which varies with application. I am well aware the 335i is a twin turbo. The car is slower around the track than an E46M3, stock. You can argue the 335i can be modded easier, true, you can argue the rear end is better, (though I doubt you know the delta), The FI engine is torquey but if its just beating out a 3.2L with its FI3.0L, thats just pathetic. Sry to break the news

  • Ok, I was just not sure if Im talking to an idiot or not. But now I know that I´m not talkin to an idiot...;)

    Im not gonna argue about modding and shit. I just think of M3 stock 335i stock. not more not less...

    I know the delta...Well ok if you´re now giving me a link showing me that the m3 can beat the 135/335i I will believe you, because the rest of what you said, sounds pretty good and logical. Cheers

  • U have to realise that some of the 335i deliver more power stock than the 306HP.

    Some are even rated at 360HP stock.

  • uhh..i'm pretty sure most stock 335s have the stock 300 hp

  • not really

    Some 335i were brought from the dealer to the dyno and it said 360 HP.

  • i have a 335i and i was racing a e46 m3 and beat it but it was just a lil difernt

  • the 335i in the video is NOt chipped

  • Both E46 M3 and 335i coupe are a great cars and no doubt about that! Rice sucks!

  • H guys , here in France the M3 E46 is 343 HP . And a few days ago i have beaten a 335i stock which is 306Hp . The difference between both cars was really not big but enough to say that my "old" M3 is a littl bite beeterin straight line acceleration....and for your information my M3 is also completely stock ;-)

  • my cousin done the same test and 335i wins

  • this is fuck

  • man ur m3 i busted, the 335 provably has a chip

  • ya that makes alot of sense so your saying an old e46 m3 is faster then 335i... so when i look at numerous videos of a 335i with a chip beating brand new m3s your saying an e46 can beat the new 400 somethin hp m3?

  • Hehehe, heres some usefull information; where are these cars running, at the reef or high altitude?? it makes a helluva difference when it comes to a aspirated motor as apposed to a forc induced one...one more thing; see who's infront when these two are drag from standstill; and yes; e46 m3's do 12.6 quatermile, with a chip and exhaust and will easily outrun the sluggish 400sumthin v8 m3; and if you dont believe me...i'll be too happy to prove it

  • so what happens when a new m3 uses the same chip as the 335? I think it's ridiculous to compare 2 cars that are not on the same page. m3 beats 335. 335 beats old m3. fuck mods, or do the same for both.

  • lol e46 better then 335i? i think not buddy if a 335i can beat a brand new e92 m3 with just a chip it would rape a e46 old m3

  • ARE YOU DUMB?

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  • The reason the 335i is slightly faster even though it has less power is because the figure quoted is peak power. The M3 has a very peaky power curve, whereas the 335i's is more flat meaning it has a higher average power output across the rev range. This is of course due to forced induction.

  • and the Bi-TURBO!!

  • peaps says: .... "This is of course due to forced induction."

    aka TWIN TURBO you dipstick ;)

  • just to let you guys know that the 335i beats the E46 M3 as i read in the PAS Magazine. Although 335i has less horsepower its twin turbo.

  • i would eat this 335 in my m3 smg ll

  • i dont know if you guys are paying attention but the 335 is new and the M3 is the old model not the new one, so its a no brainer why the 335 won

  • 335i has less horsepower and its much heavier than a M3 e46... So its a nonsense if e46 lose that race... unless the driver makes crap with it.

  • e46 may have more HP about 333, while the 335i only has 300 however with a Vishnu ECU tune the 335i gets on avg of 50-60ish HP extra and can reach 60 in about 4.6-4.7 so it really does come down to the driver

  • so wut does an equivalent tune to the vishnu get the e46 m3?

  • turbo 335i man

    turbo tell the story

  • m3 M/// power man racin purposes end of the story.

  • why do people have these stupid debates there both really fast cars but theres a clear winner to be honest but then again its turbo power vs N/A

  • never underestimate the ///M-Power engines... look at the Mclaren F1 and just wait till the X6 M comes out :D

  • its not the cars but the drivers that matter. Guy in the M3 is probably driving it for the first time.

    But still E90 is capable enuf to race E46.

  • m is still m

  • turbo engine power!!

  • ///M3 racing power no ///M335i

  • they are brothers ......brothers don't fight:

    have the same GOD shaped power...

    B M W has nothing to proove....

  • PROPAGANDA!!! e46 is still the best!

  • why is it that nether of these cars have passengers in them .Who's holding the camera?If the m3 is smg it must be in auto mode and therefore not accelerating to the best of its ability.

  • Am I right in that the 335 wins on each occasion??? Must admit to being surprised by that...

  • no your wrong man there were no passengers to hold the camera sooo pretty much the m3 must be in auto mode

  • the m3 would take it. depends on driver. dude in m3 didnt know how to drive. m3 tops 335. read the paperwork and all these test

  • the video SUCKSSS

  • wonder what the elevation is here?

  • hum thats intersting, i got an e46 m3 and i managed to walk 2 335i's at two different occasions.

  • nice to see the 335i win

  • rich ass spoiled motherfuckers

  • ill race anyone here.

  • I ripped the 335 in my stock 01' BMW Z3M. Told the dude I had 170HP and ran his pockets for $500.

  • well rip everybody on the road with my brabus SL roadster....and no less than 1000 pounds to race me

  • how quick is your brabus? 0-60 ??

    i wonder if you can take a e55

  • No shit hey!!! 0-100 3.6 AND top speed 350km/h thats 0-60 3.6 and top speed 218mph

    but i prefer my brabus built it has four seats

  • dude honestly, my friends turbo swapped hatchback will take you

  • okay hmmmm your friend you say......well why dont you get a car...and if you still amazed at saying you car has a turbo i think your in a lower league..

  • since the the air pressure is low in Gauteng should'nt the 335i do better with it's force fed induction compared to the M3 Natural aspirated induction

  • This is in South Africa right...>? I bet it was in Gauteng so M3 loose about 15% of its power due to altitude but 335i is still pretty fast

  • even stock 335i can make 340 horse power

  • us-spec european cars suck period. the gayest bumpers and lights. americans deserve american cars (ok-not all americans, but most)

  • LOL you gotta be kidding me you fucking freak you mean you prefer rectangles to stuff that has actually been designed by professionals not little kids with a ruler and a pencil and much more engineering go into european cars by far... might want to get that turd out of your brain doesn't sound like its doing too much good...

  • did anyone dial 0?? are you seriously trying to tell me uscars are better than european??HAHA-HA!!better in looking shitty,wasting gas and having NO grip in curves..come on we all know your cars go down the drain,nobody wants to buy them,thats why they are 40%off stateside-rofl-US CARS SUCK-FACE IT you GOBSHITE!!

  • lol i thought you meant american cars were better than european the way you said it! lmao just about tio say.... thought u said european cars suck period...

  • listen you fagget did any american cars company has the best name in the history as the BMW has it? i don't think so and there is a realy good reason why is the BMW has that name The Ultimate Driving Mashine

  • you don´t know shit,boy. i was talking about us-SPEC-european cars,which are blemished by funky bumpers, gay lights and sometimes less power or a rpm-limiter due to gawky us-safety regulations.

  • do you have a bmw.....because once you drive the cars its different...get a job and a good salary then you call people faggets because it sounds like you pissed that i have a good life and you cant even get a job

  • Yeah, Brabus Benzs are nice. I'll race you no less than 10k.

    P.S you will lose

  • They're all idiots, know how I know? All the windows are down.

  • bmw made the 335i as fast as the old m3 in a striaght line becuase thats were most people drive them . they made it that way so people with the older m3 would buy the new e90 but if you take the e46 m3 and the 335i on the track thats where the M3 takes off

  • i think thast the 335i that comes stock twin turbo.

  • Only assholes run with M3 on HIGHWAY!...

  • The steering-wheel is on the wrong side

  • in this race its all the driver

  • at that speed the difference is in 100's of a seconds and that depends on the driver

  • Question to ALL BMW M3 E46 fans:

    Can the car have heated seats without having the "cold weather package" which includes heated seats, headlight washers and ski bag.

    I am about to get an M3 e46 and it has heated seats but no headlight washers. I want to make sure the front of the car wasn't damaged and replaced while forgetting the washers.

    Thanks to all.

  • Yes it can!

    Sometimes cars come with individual options and not with whole packages!!!

    For example: Sunroof without premium packg.

  • All M3 E46's have xenon headlights, therefore as requested for an MOT they have to have a wash system fitted. I have necer seen an M3 E46 without wash headlights.

  • all e46 M3's do NOT have xenon headlights, they were an option, I have the original sticker of my 06 M3 and it clearly shows my xenons as an option

  • you can hear the M3 over the 335i so much. M cars rule.

  • 343 fatality..  321power.

  • ...i will never love some other car!! no mather how many m3's will born! M3 CSL E46 will be a great car!4 ever!

  • I saw a NEW M3 driving on a lot, and when he juiced it a little I nearly shot a load in my shorts.

  • the m3 driver don't know how to drive

  • The e46 still looks A LOT better

  • The M3 can not drive

    was ist des für ein fahrer im m3 miserabel 335i hat nie eine chance normal

  • 1st let me tell you i have both cars, the m3 is smg and the 335 stickshift.. the 335 is fast but the m3 will eat it. from 0 to 155 there is no way the 335 comes close.

    oh im putting a chip on the 335, well see what happens then, they say it goes almoust the same. this 335 pobably has a chip

  • dont like turbos, would still want the e46 m3 no matter what, just looks more aggressive

  • 335i vs e46 is about the same speed trust me on this one and and my friend raced about 20 times local and freeway. stock to stock.

  • hmmm i thought the m3 would take the cake everytime since it has 33 more hp... and i thought it might be lighter.

  • dont race with windows down, more air resistance.

  • e46 all the way baby

  • worthless of comparing a NA machine with a Turbo machine.

    give the E46 M3 a twin-turbo kit, and then race again. lol