I´m astonished what a good job was made of the movie. It managed to tread a path, in cinematic terms, that gives us something of the flavour of Ospensky´s relationship with Gurdieff, the importance of G´s teaching AND the nature of the Work .It also manages to avoid sensationalism (almost) and to evoke a healthy curiosity as to what was at stake then ANA now. The period newsreel and film adds another whole dimension and I applaud the director´s skill and respect for his subject matter. Thanks
Gudjieff's wife had been given energy from all the members so that she could remain alive for few more days as she was so near. Same energy transmission phenomenon happened in the life of Shankar too. Ouspensky later departed from Gurdjieff and referred the old G saner than the recent mad one but the Gudjieff knew that time has come when he would rather become a hindrance, the last hindrance between him and the awakened man. Perhaps he's right, like socrates, Ouspensky died consciously.
He could not drop the last parts of his " EGO" and open himself to the Gurdjief. According to the OSHO, when a pupil comes higher and higher in its spiritual level the difficulties in ones way will grow and to be able to overcome these difficulties the pupil needs to open himself for the master. It needs great sacrifices and the person in question need drop all of his ego. It was not the case with the Ouspensky, he still wanted to be a popular scentist.
It is not that simple. It can never be with a man like Gurdjiev. Ego,higher,Osho,spiritual level are just words on youtube. What ouspensky experienced You cannot know, and far more important cannot understand. But it can be said, that ouspensky had to conquer a need to Teach someone. If he did it only He and Gurdjiev knew. He played an important role in this, and you should not show but feel Gratitude towards this man.
I´m astonished what a good job was made of the movie. It managed to tread a path, in cinematic terms, that gives us something of the flavour of Ospensky´s relationship with Gurdieff, the importance of G´s teaching AND the nature of the Work .It also manages to avoid sensationalism (almost) and to evoke a healthy curiosity as to what was at stake then ANA now. The period newsreel and film adds another whole dimension and I applaud the director´s skill and respect for his subject matter. Thanks
Caspar33 1 month ago
Gudjieff's wife had been given energy from all the members so that she could remain alive for few more days as she was so near. Same energy transmission phenomenon happened in the life of Shankar too. Ouspensky later departed from Gurdjieff and referred the old G saner than the recent mad one but the Gudjieff knew that time has come when he would rather become a hindrance, the last hindrance between him and the awakened man. Perhaps he's right, like socrates, Ouspensky died consciously.
ajayhooda 11 months ago
Ouspensky had problems with Gurdjieff - Yes Gurdjieff shtooked his wife. Plus Ouspensky complained about some of the sex magic practices.
TheKikaha 1 year ago
why did ouspensky have difficulties with Gurdjieff such that he could not work with him later in life?
TheGschwartz86 1 year ago
@TheGschwartz86
He could not drop the last parts of his " EGO" and open himself to the Gurdjief. According to the OSHO, when a pupil comes higher and higher in its spiritual level the difficulties in ones way will grow and to be able to overcome these difficulties the pupil needs to open himself for the master. It needs great sacrifices and the person in question need drop all of his ego. It was not the case with the Ouspensky, he still wanted to be a popular scentist.
jawfrosh 1 year ago
@jawfrosh
It is not that simple. It can never be with a man like Gurdjiev. Ego,higher,Osho,spiritual level are just words on youtube. What ouspensky experienced You cannot know, and far more important cannot understand. But it can be said, that ouspensky had to conquer a need to Teach someone. If he did it only He and Gurdjiev knew. He played an important role in this, and you should not show but feel Gratitude towards this man.
Oramireally 1 year ago
@TheGschwartz86
Ouspensky had problems with Gurdjieff . . . because there was something fundamentally incomplete about Gurdjieff's teaching.
Gurdjieff couldn't transmit essential states of being to his students.
It's certainly very puzzling . . . because the Gurdjieff teaching is recognizably about those essential states.
But for some reason . . . although he himself apparently realized them . . . Gurdjieff couldn't evoke them in his students.
greenrate 1 year ago
@greenrate
The Work as transmitted today (books, videos and mainly inexperienced teachers) remains useful for unlearning and mental body development.
kenif 1 year ago
@greenrate thats not strictly true, i dont know where you get that from, there are many documented stories of transmission by gurdjieff
gurdjieff2001 1 year ago
what a nice way to present the ideas via a movie.
thanks a lot for posting.
manishxp 2 years ago
Thank you for posting.
wallywhoo 3 years ago
Superb - what a combination Milorad Pavic and Ouspensky? Dazzling.
jerebuck 3 years ago
This works surprisingly well.
pierremagne 3 years ago
Thanks from an old man for your lasting history-work!
Magnum3579 3 years ago
Fine Job, thank you for posting this....much appreciated
Seidoshi 3 years ago
Hi 'aashti', thanks for sharing the search of the miraculous!
Best,
Gus
gr2s 4 years ago