First movie: reality does exist, but it is wildly different than what we have been forced to believe/perceive.
Second movie: we have seriously underestimated our opponent; also, we are manifestations of archetypes, and time is cyclical not linear.
Third movie: Neo making love to Trinity changed nothing. Her function is to show Neo The Way. The Matrix is not healed until Rationality/Intellect (Neo) combines with "the soul of the world" (Oracle) IN Smith (out-of-control control system).
I look at these comments now, and it's sad that your missing the whole point of the perception of the Matrix....PEACE. We are all made equal, no brain is more adapt than the people you are arguing with. Spread the love and peace, joy to all!
This is implying a subjective idea / opinion / belief is conducive to reality.
This sentence is therefore a non-sequtitur.
"Your" < == Premise positive
"Truth" , <== Premise negative
Actually, if you wanna get down to it, on this useless level (many do), you'd better start showing me proof of what a so-called "you" is. I'll give you a hint, if your research doesn't encompass *over* 14.6 billion years,
yes, but when u have an opinion that someone else's opinion is false, and that a reality in which u reject my idea is your perception of what reality is, then that contradicts what u said!
Did you know that I assigned your response a 90+ percentile of happening? As in, I could read your head as I was writing my 1st statement
Did you know that therefore I answered your rebuttal in my first statement preemptively? ('qualified my premise')
Did you know that the only way your response was still possible after reading my post, was if you accepted the part you figured you could argue (premise), and ignored the part that qualified it (qualification)
See how the people in this documentary are able to make sense without using phrases like 'Strawman Fallacy' or 'Halls of the Defined Metaphysical'. How presumptuous to think that most people would understand this. Makes you look dumb.
You / external entity on youtube / wanker / person who does not know when to decide on a word sound not like a Philosophy professor, as you might like to think. You come off as an angry junky with too much time on your hands.
You picked about the last/best guy on earth to teach/learn to/from in this exact facet.
Slayer, I'm not busting YOUR chops. I'm simply not allowing you to violate,'the spirit of communication', 'linguistics','valid dictionary definitions' and especially,'defined metaphyics'
"Defender of the defined."
TOO MANY INDEED...
.
Believe they can bully 'defined' mP into the 'abstract' facet. (Strawman is generally the point behind that function/tendency)
haha, how am i breaking the spirit of communication!, what are you some type of philosophy, or english major?
and what i imagine and share with the world isn't a straw man fallacy, i hope to inspire others with my ideas, so that somebody who is a billion times smarter could build from my idea....there's nothing wrong in that. If i knew all the terms and shit, and studied philosophy and english, i'm sure i could say something to counter your statement while sounding intelligent. lol
"i hope to inspire others with my ideas, so that somebody who is a billion times smarter could build from my idea....there's nothing wrong in that""xxxslayerxxx666"
xxx implies __ ?
slayer implies __?
666 implies __?
"The problem with creating ideology is that you too, have to follow it yourself" - Anon.
If you do not see the problem with asking me a question that demands a subjectively objective answer; then, stop your abstract walk through the walls + halls of the defined metaphysical.
how can an answer be a subjective objective? that is self contradictory! i have no doubt that you are more intelligent than me, but refresh my memory cause i can't find the first comment that got this bickering going....plus there is a flaw in your mentality, you go strictly by books, rules change all the time, and laws are proven wrong, if we had stuck to your mentality, we would have never discovered gravity and many other things, and i never demanded anything from u, tell me what i said.
'You and I create our own reality' - loosely parapharsed, is what you had alluded to.
This is where I stated a subjective/objective "fact" is an imploded proposition.
When you, in this post above, replied, "How can an answer be a subjective objective?" I digressed my position immediately, as the point I was attemepting to voice was embraced by you.
Technically, our discussion is finished as we are in agreement about the odd proposition of simultaneous 'sub/objective' propositions.
i agree,but if one is smarter than the other, it doesn't matter, the lesser intelligent beings can have incredible ingenuity.... but i'm sure i'm you're smarter because i did all kinds of shit when i was 9, so i'm sure my brain got fucked, lol....i can't think of the guy that said this,but, he said, you have to become insane in order to be sane.....well, i'm sure it's paraphrased a bit, i don't have good memory, although, i can remember the first 60 digits of pi, lol....that's nothing thought.
i hope that's not sarcasm, lol....and by the way, did you try the left/right brain test on youtube? cause i was so possitive that you would get left brain.
@D33veeoss There is something that fits the category of subjective truth. Life is not identical for all individuals. We all have differing sets of gifts and challenges. Born into different families, going to different schools, living in different places.
For some people it almost never rains, for others it rains almost all the time - where they live.
Thus, what is truth for one is not necessarily truth for another.
I've been through this so many times in the last month. The problem here, literally, is you're a victim of the exact point you're making. It's why you don't hear me and it's why I am not allowed to broaden your understanding.
Also, I just had a several hour long discussion about the factor, the practical mechanics at play that are of reflex with psyche.
Environment + psyche = bias
It is this bias you speak of and it is this bias that you will not attribute yourself with.
Dam, i just watched this documentary for the first time and all the bitching comments makes me think you guys didn't quite get it. Just showing off how much philosophy you know (or would like to know). Dam, I'm bitching too now. But I will say this, D33V, you come off as a total retard in 1 page and if people don't get you it's because you are a bad writer and make no sense. Your philosophy remains unknown, so I cannot comment on. I'd sugar coat it but you also come off as a snob so suck it.
'Environment + psyche = bias' = bollocks. Environment + Psyche CAN CREATE bias will do, but that is obvious.
Name one thing that Environment + Psyche doesn't create.
Don't berrate people until you learn to communicate. (or unless they have 6 nonsensical and snobbish comments on 1 page already, in which case call them on their misspelling, punctuation, grammar and apparent ignorance).
Hey, asshole, if you're going to postulate a strawman in which I said or implied or support the idea that, 'environment + psyche = **ONLY** bias, then, yup, you caught me red-handed you fucking nitwit.
Next, if you think that spelling, grammar phrasing, or A-NY-FUH-CK-ING other simplistic thing that has NOHTING to do with the
*INFORMATION*
that I point attention, then you know NOTHING about ad hominem or the abc fallacies. There's several more but I think
If this idea is not on your radar as a paramount connection; or, to be grammatically proper, a connection of paramount concern.....THEN.....well, I need your back and forth to establish your rung on the pecking ladder.
I'm not a pompous, presumptuous ass, like you've shown yourself to be.
The implication of what you labelled,"obvious", is a can you haven't even started to crack. Much less find the tools to do it with.
Since when was that indicative of a facet of reality being true or false?
All that's indicative of.....is your vested interest and opinion....which you still haven't managed to eviscerate yourself of.
I suspect you find them comforting.
Like religion.
No, I won't read your next tell, the fact that you've evaded what will lead into 100s of hours or productive contemplation and conversation...that's enough for me.
"You're preaching to the choir" doesn't even begin to capture the reality of the situation you and I are in. Even such a phrase is patronizing to the point of mental abuse in this particular instance.
At any rate, I hope you have a better sense of who it is you're trying to explain, what you must think is your idea, to.
I could spend all day picking apart your strange sentences which, although they make perfect sense to you, are way too abstract for a sane person.
I understand fully the limitation of words, whether I know the official term for it.
A chemist does not go to a layperson and start shouting obscure chemical names to prove a point. You are doing just that with philosophy, who do you think you're talking to?
You seem more concerned with looking clever than communicating. You fail at both.
thank you, i admire that guy's intelligence, but we live in a world of stupid people, i am proudly ignorant, that stuff is fascinating, but it's a whole other world that people don't understand, partly because we aren't rich like your parents were, but congradulations if you are a hard worker and you prove my stereotyping of intelligent people to be ignorant....and btw learn to communicate in an easy to follow way, other than that, i love how much you know on philosophy, i want to study it too!
You seem more concerned with looking clever than communicating. You fail at both.
Do you afford yourself this generous allowance of speculation in ALL things you label as fact? Or, is this level of 'absolute specualtion' reserved wherein your bias and self-interest dictate?
That's rhetorical by the way.
I've only pointed out what the court acknowledges as fact.
So don't retort or you'll continue your contempt of information into a whole new facet.
This is philosophy, no, this is fringe philosophy being masqueraded as practical practice in ontology and epistemology
I wont bother qualifying myself because it would take a page or 2 to point out the fallacy Besides anyone who believes this 'freedom' idea is in anyway solid or confirmed is religious. Certainly, there is no debate here. It me and my miserable confirmed theses vs imagination
This movie, rather the 1st one, is arguably in the the only movie that touches on all facets of movie making and movie experience ie .audience. I won't list the 'outta 10s' as I don't have the char. space for it. If you need me to send me a PM.
"you think that's air you're breathing?"
Very profound. Yes it is, for our intents and purposes ie. superficially.
Could it also be an open system, wherein our idea and definition of air LACK, and encompass %.0015 of the 'truth of air' ?
2. This whole 'similie' and pattern distinction, metaphors, meaning, these are what I use to find out if an idea is 2+2=4 or 2+2=5.
What is "my" truth? You know, to almost anyone else, that would be a fair question. A stupendous majority. They make they truth.
Myself? I've been developing counteractions against bias and environment and seasoning since I was 5. No, not you, some people, not most..no. Almost me alone.
I don't have a truth, I combat against developing one every single day.
To say again, it's not like religion where you can walk into a temple church or mosque and say, I want to follow.
Realistic objective fact vs subjective assessment/thinking, vested interest, self-serving bias/action, peripheral bias/environmental seasoning; so on and so forth, well, discerning between the two, and adapting an appropriate DYNAMIC filter to deduce the line between is a discipline that you begin at 3-6 years old, or never.
They recognize the fallacy in embracing a subjective reality as "real" and their own, but there is no way to stop the constant feedback from the 'glare on the window' (methaphor inside a bright room looking outside at night)
You can't just turn off the light switch.
You have to unscrew 10s of 1000s or tiny little LCDs. 1 at a time.
And the tools just won't be there,
You can ride coattails and 'cover with scotch tape' but still.
I've thought about information input OBJ and SUB for,
b) a state of vicious, curious, verocity with no give,(or as little as could be expected) to the comfort of subjective complacency. opinion, belief, etc etc.
I have about 15 areas I could get jury agreement on wherein the specific facets of all movies could be clearly defined.
Matrix has no '60s nostalgia. N/A.
Many other categories are 9/10.
Matrix is frankly, objectively, one of the best movies ever made
Well, he does not see everything like that, only machine city, the pods, deus ex machina etc. Remember, he's completely blind inside the ship, can't see Trinity etc. As for why he sees the machines like that? It, could symbolize that the machines aren't actually evil, which they are not.
A man who says there is no God is a fool. He conditions his own reality in exchange for truth. With this mindset he can do anything and everything he wants without being accountable. Chaos without purpose, how depressing.
If you think that's depressing, then you're not that bright.
"There is a green squirrel with a red hat flying around."
Prove that is NOT the case. You can't do that, right? So the burden of proof is on me. If you don't agree, then I can say a thousand things that you can't disprove, and you have to consider them just as probable as the flying jewish zombie.
Who's to say for certain that you or I really exist?
Now, I'm not saying for certain that there is or isn't a green flying squirrel or a zombie jew. You haven't provided any proof one way or the other for either object; how can I be certain they don't really exist? How can you be certain if your only evidence is the lack thereof?
If you wish for your mind to remain closed, you'd might as well take these 'Source' videos off of your page. The lessons are clearly lost on you.
It is true that absence of evidence is not evidence of avsence, but it all has to do with "probability", ok. And the probability that a flying jewish zombie exists is not that big. Just because I can't disprove something does not mean I have to consider that it ´might be the case. If you open your mind too much, the stuff that makes sense spills out. :D
But what it's truth. Do you really now it. I can say there is no god but is it really different if I say there is a god.
A man who says there is a god is a child. He conditions someone els's truth in exchange for reality. With this dream world everything he does is jugded by other and not him self. He needs to be told whats good or wrong without thinking about what is good or wrong, he needs to be scared in order to do good not because he is a good man. It's the boogyman in a other form.
There is no such thing as 'spirit', it's nonsense. The whole concept has eroded Philosophy for centuries and it won't get past the ridiculous nature of Religion until it accepts that.
lol I was just about to say the same thing, glad to see someone did it for me. If you were God you would be the brat kid, as God is everything and everything is God, so the answer is
First movie: reality does exist, but it is wildly different than what we have been forced to believe/perceive.
Second movie: we have seriously underestimated our opponent; also, we are manifestations of archetypes, and time is cyclical not linear.
Third movie: Neo making love to Trinity changed nothing. Her function is to show Neo The Way. The Matrix is not healed until Rationality/Intellect (Neo) combines with "the soul of the world" (Oracle) IN Smith (out-of-control control system).
JeffreyOfTroy 2 months ago
does any body know the background music from 2:20 onwards
P5videos 2 months ago in playlist Philosophy and the Matrix: Return to the Source
This was INCREDIBLE!! And so well done....YAY! best thing i've seen on Youtube..Thank You for making this, I am blown away (to a good place)
JaneStrange1 4 months ago in playlist Philosophy and the Matrix: Return to the Source
holly shit i think i just understood something . im not joking as im writing this im thinking about it
abc1235222 5 months ago
I look at these comments now, and it's sad that your missing the whole point of the perception of the Matrix....PEACE. We are all made equal, no brain is more adapt than the people you are arguing with. Spread the love and peace, joy to all!
EoPatch 1 year ago
BEST MATRIX SERIES ON THE INTERWEBS
matrixcmitech 1 year ago
Amazing Trilogy and a very good documentary. Thank you!
DeViLiN888 2 years ago 7
My say:
"What is *your* *truth*."
This is implying a subjective idea / opinion / belief is conducive to reality.
This sentence is therefore a non-sequtitur.
"Your" < == Premise positive
"Truth" , <== Premise negative
Actually, if you wanna get down to it, on this useless level (many do), you'd better start showing me proof of what a so-called "you" is. I'll give you a hint, if your research doesn't encompass *over* 14.6 billion years,
then you're not picking up what I'm saying.
:)
D33veeoss 2 years ago
yes, but when u have an opinion that someone else's opinion is false, and that a reality in which u reject my idea is your perception of what reality is, then that contradicts what u said!
xxxslayerxxx666 2 years ago
Did you know that I assigned your response a 90+ percentile of happening? As in, I could read your head as I was writing my 1st statement
Did you know that therefore I answered your rebuttal in my first statement preemptively? ('qualified my premise')
Did you know that the only way your response was still possible after reading my post, was if you accepted the part you figured you could argue (premise), and ignored the part that qualified it (qualification)
This leading into a Strawman fallacy
D33veeoss 2 years ago
See how the people in this documentary are able to make sense without using phrases like 'Strawman Fallacy' or 'Halls of the Defined Metaphysical'. How presumptuous to think that most people would understand this. Makes you look dumb.
You / external entity on youtube / wanker / person who does not know when to decide on a word sound not like a Philosophy professor, as you might like to think. You come off as an angry junky with too much time on your hands.
moneywaker 2 years ago
You come off as an angry junky with too much time on your hands. (to you, within your subjective mindframe, afforded to you by your own bias)
You need to either ignore me or acknowledge the information I communicate.
The ad hominem and 'attack on speech, thus character' is gettin old and it is frankly useless, wasteful gargage.
Fuck how I said what I said, just pay attention and adapt.
D33veeoss 2 years ago
I should have clarified in the first tell:
"Your" = Subjective.
"Reality" = Objective.
*YOUR* truth = implies that DYNAMIC SUBJECTIVE IDEA/OPINION,BELIEF can affect a static objective reality.
Said again,
"your *TRUTH* = implies that STATIC OBJECTIVE REALITY is a product of a subjective idea/opinion.
Your sentence was a non sequitur.
That's not my opinion, belief, or bias.
You sentence is a void.
D33veeoss 2 years ago
"yes, but when u have an opinion"
You picked about the last/best guy on earth to teach/learn to/from in this exact facet.
Slayer, I'm not busting YOUR chops. I'm simply not allowing you to violate,'the spirit of communication', 'linguistics','valid dictionary definitions' and especially,'defined metaphyics'
"Defender of the defined."
TOO MANY INDEED...
.
Believe they can bully 'defined' mP into the 'abstract' facet. (Strawman is generally the point behind that function/tendency)
D33veeoss 2 years ago
haha, how am i breaking the spirit of communication!, what are you some type of philosophy, or english major?
and what i imagine and share with the world isn't a straw man fallacy, i hope to inspire others with my ideas, so that somebody who is a billion times smarter could build from my idea....there's nothing wrong in that. If i knew all the terms and shit, and studied philosophy and english, i'm sure i could say something to counter your statement while sounding intelligent. lol
xxxslayerxxx666 2 years ago
"i hope to inspire others with my ideas, so that somebody who is a billion times smarter could build from my idea....there's nothing wrong in that""xxxslayerxxx666"
xxx implies __ ?
slayer implies __?
666 implies __?
"The problem with creating ideology is that you too, have to follow it yourself" - Anon.
If you do not see the problem with asking me a question that demands a subjectively objective answer; then, stop your abstract walk through the walls + halls of the defined metaphysical.
D33veeoss 2 years ago
how can an answer be a subjective objective? that is self contradictory! i have no doubt that you are more intelligent than me, but refresh my memory cause i can't find the first comment that got this bickering going....plus there is a flaw in your mentality, you go strictly by books, rules change all the time, and laws are proven wrong, if we had stuck to your mentality, we would have never discovered gravity and many other things, and i never demanded anything from u, tell me what i said.
xxxslayerxxx666 2 years ago
'You and I create our own reality' - loosely parapharsed, is what you had alluded to.
This is where I stated a subjective/objective "fact" is an imploded proposition.
When you, in this post above, replied, "How can an answer be a subjective objective?" I digressed my position immediately, as the point I was attemepting to voice was embraced by you.
Technically, our discussion is finished as we are in agreement about the odd proposition of simultaneous 'sub/objective' propositions.
D33veeoss 2 years ago
I will ignore all, but this tell that you sent 3hrs ago.
From now on, I know you like this.
But, you were wrong about one thing...
You said
"I have no doubt that you are more intelligent than me."
If I were to make the exact same claim, with the same sentiment about you....
Then
It be very simple for us to understand how trite, fickle, and therefore useless and meaningless the idea of 'comparative intellect' is
ie. we're of synonymous intellect or "intellect" becomes a non starter :)
D33veeoss 2 years ago
i agree,but if one is smarter than the other, it doesn't matter, the lesser intelligent beings can have incredible ingenuity.... but i'm sure i'm you're smarter because i did all kinds of shit when i was 9, so i'm sure my brain got fucked, lol....i can't think of the guy that said this,but, he said, you have to become insane in order to be sane.....well, i'm sure it's paraphrased a bit, i don't have good memory, although, i can remember the first 60 digits of pi, lol....that's nothing thought.
xxxslayerxxx666 2 years ago
You have my blessing Slayer dude.
Think on buddy, think on.
D33veeoss 2 years ago
i hope that's not sarcasm, lol....and by the way, did you try the left/right brain test on youtube? cause i was so possitive that you would get left brain.
xxxslayerxxx666 2 years ago
No sarcasm at all.
I meant it sincerely.
I tried that test out a long time ago.
If its what I think.
The way it went was that I would go one way, and if I wanted it to go the other, I had to sit there for 2 minutes.
I couldn't swtich easily but I could stay on either side or both.
D33veeoss 2 years ago
@D33veeoss There is something that fits the category of subjective truth. Life is not identical for all individuals. We all have differing sets of gifts and challenges. Born into different families, going to different schools, living in different places.
For some people it almost never rains, for others it rains almost all the time - where they live.
Thus, what is truth for one is not necessarily truth for another.
PsyberSourcerer 2 years ago
@D33veeoss Just in case you don't see my point clearly, here's as clear as I can make it.
Your father is your father, that is the truth - but your father is not my father.
PsyberSourcerer 2 years ago
I've been through this so many times in the last month. The problem here, literally, is you're a victim of the exact point you're making. It's why you don't hear me and it's why I am not allowed to broaden your understanding.
Also, I just had a several hour long discussion about the factor, the practical mechanics at play that are of reflex with psyche.
Environment + psyche = bias
It is this bias you speak of and it is this bias that you will not attribute yourself with.
D33veeoss 2 years ago
Dam, i just watched this documentary for the first time and all the bitching comments makes me think you guys didn't quite get it. Just showing off how much philosophy you know (or would like to know). Dam, I'm bitching too now. But I will say this, D33V, you come off as a total retard in 1 page and if people don't get you it's because you are a bad writer and make no sense. Your philosophy remains unknown, so I cannot comment on. I'd sugar coat it but you also come off as a snob so suck it.
MrOtisMiller 2 years ago
'Environment + psyche = bias' = bollocks. Environment + Psyche CAN CREATE bias will do, but that is obvious.
Name one thing that Environment + Psyche doesn't create.
Don't berrate people until you learn to communicate. (or unless they have 6 nonsensical and snobbish comments on 1 page already, in which case call them on their misspelling, punctuation, grammar and apparent ignorance).
Now for my comment:
:D
MrOtisMiller 2 years ago
Hey, asshole, if you're going to postulate a strawman in which I said or implied or support the idea that, 'environment + psyche = **ONLY** bias, then, yup, you caught me red-handed you fucking nitwit.
Next, if you think that spelling, grammar phrasing, or A-NY-FUH-CK-ING other simplistic thing that has NOHTING to do with the
*INFORMATION*
that I point attention, then you know NOTHING about ad hominem or the abc fallacies. There's several more but I think
I'm over-ample already.
D33veeoss 2 years ago
LAST, son,
'Environment + psyche = bias' = bollocks
If this idea is not on your radar as a paramount connection; or, to be grammatically proper, a connection of paramount concern.....THEN.....well, I need your back and forth to establish your rung on the pecking ladder.
I'm not a pompous, presumptuous ass, like you've shown yourself to be.
The implication of what you labelled,"obvious", is a can you haven't even started to crack. Much less find the tools to do it with.
D33veeoss 2 years ago
As for snobbish?
Since when was that indicative of a facet of reality being true or false?
All that's indicative of.....is your vested interest and opinion....which you still haven't managed to eviscerate yourself of.
I suspect you find them comforting.
Like religion.
No, I won't read your next tell, the fact that you've evaded what will lead into 100s of hours or productive contemplation and conversation...that's enough for me.
I've no use of your belief and self-interest.
D33veeoss 2 years ago
"Everything is "right" by me."
- (PsyberoSourcerer loosly paraphrased.)
I suppose, "...if there were to be a right, which there is not, then everything is "right" by me. If we disagree, we're both right."
Simple.
My favorite color is my favorite color.
To head north we both have to point our compasses north
W E and S will NOT do. This is an objective world.! Within this OBJECTIVE world is your subjective bias and opinion
I've fought bias and seasoning since I was 5 and 1st realized it
D33veeoss 2 years ago
"You're preaching to the choir" doesn't even begin to capture the reality of the situation you and I are in. Even such a phrase is patronizing to the point of mental abuse in this particular instance.
At any rate, I hope you have a better sense of who it is you're trying to explain, what you must think is your idea, to.
D33veeoss 2 years ago
Yes, but both your fathers are your fathers, coherent with objective truth.
I understand the point you're making, but I don't favour the example.
JiubLink 2 years ago
I could spend all day picking apart your strange sentences which, although they make perfect sense to you, are way too abstract for a sane person.
I understand fully the limitation of words, whether I know the official term for it.
A chemist does not go to a layperson and start shouting obscure chemical names to prove a point. You are doing just that with philosophy, who do you think you're talking to?
You seem more concerned with looking clever than communicating. You fail at both.
moneywaker 2 years ago
thank you, i admire that guy's intelligence, but we live in a world of stupid people, i am proudly ignorant, that stuff is fascinating, but it's a whole other world that people don't understand, partly because we aren't rich like your parents were, but congradulations if you are a hard worker and you prove my stereotyping of intelligent people to be ignorant....and btw learn to communicate in an easy to follow way, other than that, i love how much you know on philosophy, i want to study it too!
xxxslayerxxx666 2 years ago
You seem more concerned with looking clever than communicating. You fail at both.
Do you afford yourself this generous allowance of speculation in ALL things you label as fact? Or, is this level of 'absolute specualtion' reserved wherein your bias and self-interest dictate?
That's rhetorical by the way.
I've only pointed out what the court acknowledges as fact.
So don't retort or you'll continue your contempt of information into a whole new facet.
(Leave it at just dumb.)
D33veeoss 2 years ago
everthing is information....nice
EndlessClaw 2 years ago
Very interesting. I don't see any point to it all but it's an interesting intellectual gymnastics game to play.
Esoparagon 2 years ago
Its a miscarriage of ontology and epistemology
This is philosophy, no, this is fringe philosophy being masqueraded as practical practice in ontology and epistemology
I wont bother qualifying myself because it would take a page or 2 to point out the fallacy Besides anyone who believes this 'freedom' idea is in anyway solid or confirmed is religious. Certainly, there is no debate here. It me and my miserable confirmed theses vs imagination
3:49 "You think that's freedom you're achieving?"
D33veeoss 2 years ago
so what is your take on this movie?....what is your truth? what do u plan on following?
xxxslayerxxx666 2 years ago
This movie, rather the 1st one, is arguably in the the only movie that touches on all facets of movie making and movie experience ie .audience. I won't list the 'outta 10s' as I don't have the char. space for it. If you need me to send me a PM.
"you think that's air you're breathing?"
Very profound. Yes it is, for our intents and purposes ie. superficially.
Could it also be an open system, wherein our idea and definition of air LACK, and encompass %.0015 of the 'truth of air' ?
Yes it could.
D33veeoss 2 years ago
2. This whole 'similie' and pattern distinction, metaphors, meaning, these are what I use to find out if an idea is 2+2=4 or 2+2=5.
What is "my" truth? You know, to almost anyone else, that would be a fair question. A stupendous majority. They make they truth.
Myself? I've been developing counteractions against bias and environment and seasoning since I was 5. No, not you, some people, not most..no. Almost me alone.
I don't have a truth, I combat against developing one every single day.
D33veeoss 2 years ago
"I" don't have a truth.
"I" don't even acknowledge an "I" in full, nor accurate interpretation (of the information available) in the parts I do.
Subjectivity is a funny thing. A non sequitur to some (as much as could be expected) and it's a rusty ship's anchor to others.
D33veeoss 2 years ago
To say again, it's not like religion where you can walk into a temple church or mosque and say, I want to follow.
Realistic objective fact vs subjective assessment/thinking, vested interest, self-serving bias/action, peripheral bias/environmental seasoning; so on and so forth, well, discerning between the two, and adapting an appropriate DYNAMIC filter to deduce the line between is a discipline that you begin at 3-6 years old, or never.
Many today cry and whine and half-try.
D33veeoss 2 years ago
They recognize the fallacy in embracing a subjective reality as "real" and their own, but there is no way to stop the constant feedback from the 'glare on the window' (methaphor inside a bright room looking outside at night)
You can't just turn off the light switch.
You have to unscrew 10s of 1000s or tiny little LCDs. 1 at a time.
And the tools just won't be there,
You can ride coattails and 'cover with scotch tape' but still.
I've thought about information input OBJ and SUB for,
D33veeoss 2 years ago
Well over 2 decades in:
a) directions I have not seen explored.
b) a state of vicious, curious, verocity with no give,(or as little as could be expected) to the comfort of subjective complacency. opinion, belief, etc etc.
I have about 15 areas I could get jury agreement on wherein the specific facets of all movies could be clearly defined.
Matrix has no '60s nostalgia. N/A.
Many other categories are 9/10.
Matrix is frankly, objectively, one of the best movies ever made
D33veeoss 2 years ago
I mean only the first of course.
But it cannot go without saying that it spans a rainbow/plethora of categories that CREATE a movie.
So it can't be compared with say "Gone with the Wind." Letters and Numbers.
But if I HAD to name a movie...I'd have to go Matrix.
It's like underground Noir meets Steven Spielberg.
It touches the most emotion, the most sub-conscious scenery that we call "eyecandy".
Don't get me started. But I can justify and well validate the assertion.
D33veeoss 2 years ago
I dont watch t.v or hollywood this was one movie though I rented and saw many times :-))) thanks for the wonderful posts ..namaste
Nanaeon05 2 years ago
I still don't get why neo sees everything like that (the yellowish view) in real life.
NartSaga 3 years ago
Well, he does not see everything like that, only machine city, the pods, deus ex machina etc. Remember, he's completely blind inside the ship, can't see Trinity etc. As for why he sees the machines like that? It, could symbolize that the machines aren't actually evil, which they are not.
seraph101 3 years ago 2
Thanks. Its been a while
But remember he could see agent smith the same way and I think he is quite evil :)
I mean pause at 4:02
NartSaga 3 years ago
Smith is bad yes. And he is without a doubt a symbol of human egoism, growing bigger all the time.
seraph101 3 years ago
The Aztecs believed that an eclipse meant they had to kill someone to get the light back. Or something like that.
Point is, they didn't do it on a whim, they simply did the best they could with what they had at he time.
I PROMISE YOU, if you were to go back and challenge the claim, they'd be able to justify the logic with convincing premise.
Suspend judgement.
Give it a 34% likely hood ( majority over the other 9 theses that deserve due diligence too)
..and let's observe some ontology.
D33veeoss 2 years ago
flying jews? Please explain:)))
Something you made up or???
timesplitters333 2 years ago
He sees the sourch. The machine mainframe.
Terrorkarel 3 years ago
because there is nor real life
mindaCat 3 years ago
A man who says there is no God is a fool. He conditions his own reality in exchange for truth. With this mindset he can do anything and everything he wants without being accountable. Chaos without purpose, how depressing.
AdamsSeed 3 years ago
No, what's really depressing is that there is actually a lot of people who think that there is a jewish zombie flying around.
seraph101 3 years ago
What's more depressing are people claiming that he isn't flying around without actually proving it.
mpaulino 3 years ago
If you think that's depressing, then you're not that bright.
"There is a green squirrel with a red hat flying around."
Prove that is NOT the case. You can't do that, right? So the burden of proof is on me. If you don't agree, then I can say a thousand things that you can't disprove, and you have to consider them just as probable as the flying jewish zombie.
seraph101 3 years ago
Who's to say for certain that you or I really exist?
Now, I'm not saying for certain that there is or isn't a green flying squirrel or a zombie jew. You haven't provided any proof one way or the other for either object; how can I be certain they don't really exist? How can you be certain if your only evidence is the lack thereof?
If you wish for your mind to remain closed, you'd might as well take these 'Source' videos off of your page. The lessons are clearly lost on you.
mpaulino 3 years ago
It is true that absence of evidence is not evidence of avsence, but it all has to do with "probability", ok. And the probability that a flying jewish zombie exists is not that big. Just because I can't disprove something does not mean I have to consider that it ´might be the case. If you open your mind too much, the stuff that makes sense spills out. :D
seraph101 3 years ago 2
Oh wow, I totally forgot all about these videos.
Anyhow, what is the probability of us humans living in 'the Matrix'?
mpaulino 2 years ago
But what it's truth. Do you really now it. I can say there is no god but is it really different if I say there is a god.
A man who says there is a god is a child. He conditions someone els's truth in exchange for reality. With this dream world everything he does is jugded by other and not him self. He needs to be told whats good or wrong without thinking about what is good or wrong, he needs to be scared in order to do good not because he is a good man. It's the boogyman in a other form.
Terrorkarel 3 years ago
There is no such thing as 'spirit', it's nonsense. The whole concept has eroded Philosophy for centuries and it won't get past the ridiculous nature of Religion until it accepts that.
Blasphy1337 3 years ago
There is no God, the first movie was good, then 2nd and 3rd movies SUCKED!!! You know it's true.
Blasphy1337 3 years ago
Philosophy: good.
Latter two moves: bad.
Sorry, I have to agree. They really weren't that good in terms of movies and films.
mpaulino 3 years ago
to be human isn't the construct that makes you what you are, stop fooling your self.
freepress666 3 years ago
the shawshank redemption, v for vendetta.. maybe lotr, also attempt to capture these metaphysical dimension ideas
aannkk 3 years ago
the shawshank redemption, v for vendetta.. maybe lotr, also attempt to capture these metaphysical dimension ideas
aannkk 3 years ago
if i was god and some brat came knocking at my door to wipe out all that i had achieved. Would i let him in. The answer is
jjccccc 4 years ago
That brat is you. god one and the same.
panthercoolcat 4 years ago
lol I was just about to say the same thing, glad to see someone did it for me. If you were God you would be the brat kid, as God is everything and everything is God, so the answer is
mos619 4 years ago
Nice videos.. could you possibly upload the other documentary: The Hard Problem.
Mig440 4 years ago
really nice videos... tks
Meo4web 5 years ago 2