When I check the verses you cite on quran(dot)com, the translation listed is different. Is there a problem with this particular translation? If so, can you recommend a different one?
All what you say is great, Muhammad is not the first one to mention these scientific information, but I think also that he was illiterate and doesn't know how to read Arabic, so how he read Greak and Hieroglyphic languages and then translated both into Arabic?
@AhmedFathy80 Mohammed was born into a merchantile culture that traded with Byzantine Greeks on its border. Also Nabateans were helenized Arabs & Mada'in Saleh was 130 km from Medina. The Arab alphabet is Nabatean in origin. Muhammed was a merchant acting as Khadija's agent. He went to Damascus with his Uncle Abu where he traded with Greeks. Greek was the international trading language. There are many possible sources to learn the incorrect Greek version of embryology.
@CHAS1422 My dear you didn't answer the question, I agree completely with you, but, Muhammed was illiterate and was not capable to read ARABIC, do you think that he preferred to learn Greek through his SHORT visits to Damascus and waste his time studying foreign language while he had his whole life in Mecca without learning ARABIC? then to read what ancient Greeks have come up with and translate it into ARABIC (which he didn't know) and write it as a Holy book?
@AhmedFathy80 There was at least one companion - Nafi ibn al-Harith - who had studied Greek Medicine and would have been well acquainted with the teachings of Aristotle, Hippocrates, and Galen. Greek knowledge was the prevalent knowledge at the time. Muhammad didn't have to read it, only hear about it.
@AhmedFathy80 Wasn't Abdullah Ibn Abu Sarh one of Muhammed's scribes? Did Muhammed even need to be literate to listen, or dictate? The supposed "science" in the Koran appears to be descriptions based on simple visual observation (as in Galen). My Junior high school biology book had much more information. Why couldn't God give Muhammed something useful, like a biology or pharmacology text with illustrations? Are biologists better at prophecy?
Why do you take pride in the claims of illiteracy?
@CHAS1422 My dear you didn't answer the question, I agree completely with you, but, Muhammed was illiterate and was not capable to read ARABIC, do you think that he preferred to learn Greek through his SHORT visits to Damascus and waste his time studying foreign language while he had his whole life in Mecca without learning ARABIC? then to read what ancient Greeks have come up with and translate it into ARABIC (which he didn't know) and write it as a Holy book?
@CHAS1422 My dear you didn't answer the question, I agree completely with you, but, Muhammed was illiterate and was not capable to read ARABIC, do you think that he preferred to learn Greek through his SHORT visits to Damascus and waste his time studying foreign language while he had his whole life in Mecca without learning ARABIC? then to read what ancient Greeks have come up with and translate it into ARABIC (which he didn't know) and write it as a Holy book?
@CHAS1422 My dear you didn't answer the question, I agree completely with you, but, Muhammed was illiterate and was not capable to read ARABIC, do you think that he preferred to learn Greek through his SHORT visits to Damascus and waste his time studying foreign language while he had his whole life in Mecca without learning ARABIC? then to read what ancient Greeks have come up with and translate it into ARABIC (which he didn't know) and write it as a Holy book?
@CHAS1422 My dear you didn't answer the question, I agree completely with you, but, Muhammed was illiterate and was not capable to read ARABIC, do you think that he preferred to learn Greek through his SHORT visits to Damascus and waste his time studying foreign language while he had his whole life in Mecca without learning ARABIC? then to read what ancient Greeks have come up with and translate it into ARABIC (which he didn't know) and write it as a Holy book?
@CHAS1422 My dear you didn't answer the question, I agree completely with you, but, Muhammed was illiterate and was not capable to read ARABIC, do you think that he preferred to learn Greek through his SHORT visits to Damascus and waste his time studying foreign language while he had his whole life in Mecca without learning ARABIC? then to read what ancient Greeks have come up with and translate it into ARABIC (which he didn't know) and write it as a Holy book?
@CHAS1422 My dear you didn't answer the question, I agree completely with you, but, Muhammed was illiterate and was not capable to read ARABIC, do you think that he preferred to learn Greek through his SHORT visits to Damascus and waste his time studying foreign language while he had his whole life in Mecca without learning ARABIC? then to read what ancient Greeks have come up with and translate it into ARABIC (which he didn't know) and write it as a Holy book?
@CHAS1422 My dear you didn't answer the question, I agree completely with you, but, Muhammed was illiterate and was not capable to read ARABIC, do you think that he preferred to learn Greek through his SHORT visits to Damascus and waste his time studying foreign language while he had his whole life in Mecca without learning ARABIC? then to read what ancient Greeks have come up with and translate it into ARABIC (which he didn't know) and write it as a Holy book?
@CHAS1422 My dear you didn't answer the question, I agree completely with you, but, Muhammed was illiterate and was not capable to read ARABIC, do you think that he preferred to learn Greek through his SHORT visits to Damascus and waste his time studying foreign language while he had his whole life in Mecca without learning ARABIC? then to read what ancient Greeks have come up with and translate it into ARABIC (which he didn't know) and write it as a Holy book?
@CHAS1422 My dear you didn't answer the question, I agree completely with you, but, Muhammed was illiterate and was not capable to read ARABIC, do you think that he preferred to learn Greek through his SHORT visits to Damascus and waste his time studying foreign language while he had his whole life in Mecca without learning ARABIC? then to read what ancient Greeks have come up with and translate it into ARABIC (which he didn't know) and write it as a Holy book?
IGNORANT: How about Qaba, How About Sea, How about, earth creation, 7 heaven, details about mountains... and so and so ...... you stupid idiot take of this shit video and keep it at your home i have seen all of your videos you are trying to make propaganda about islam Allah will put you in hell, Allah will win you will lose
Shut up stupid idiot what are you making in your computer shit keep it at your home, Qur'an has been proof of Allah, and billions of people follow it because it's true, How about mountains, How about sea, How about heaven and much more
@AllahSucketh First muhammed could not perform miracles he even said it himself the only miracle he brought was the quran. Second the crack you speak of in the moon is called a Lunar Rilles its similiar to the gorges and canyons here on earth today. Theese rilles are hundreds of miles deep and long and also similiar to the ones found on other planets as well. The rilles also are found all over the moon there are hundreds of Lunar Rilles. Therefore this mircale is totally ridiculous.
No, Muhammad did actually split the moon. The crack of the moon makes a complete circle. Then he glued it back together again. You can find some remains of glue at the crack at several places where he applied too much of it.
@AllahSucketh@AllahSucketh No you are wrong what you are takling about a lie. There is no complete circle around the moon. There is no crack that splits the moon theese are called Rilles and there are hundreds on the moon and mars and jupiar moons.
@AllahSucketh They are severall miles deep but they do not split the moon. The rille you speak of is the rima ariadaeus its 300km but it does not split the moon. Rilles are just cannons,valleyes,trenches, etc. similiar to those on earth.
@AllahSucketh Second muhammed says himself that he cannot perform miracles and the only miracle he offers is the quran itself. When asked to perform a mircale the following was stated:
"Glory be to my Lord; am I aught but a mortal messenger?" Q 17:93
Look what allah says about muhammed and his miracles:
And those who disbelieve say: Why has not a sign been sent down upon him from his Lord? You are only a warner.
@mando91614 So you see what im saying to sum it up: 1st its not a crack in the moon its a rille theres hundreds of them on other moons and mars.
2nd int he quran it says that muhammed could not perform miracles. People kept demanding muhammed to perform a mircle but he kept insessting he was just a man messanger and could not perform miracles.
This is not about rilles, this is the miracle of splitting of the moon.
Apparently you don't want to look it up, so:
Surat al-qamar 54.1:
Muhsin Khan: The Hour has drawn near, and the moon has been cleft asunder (the people of Makkah requested Prophet Muhammad SAW to show them a miracle, so he showed them the splitting of the moon).
It is evidently from this holy text that Muhammad split the moon. This is a true scientific miracle, explaining the crack and the glue on the moon.
@AllahSucketh No there is no glue or crack on the moon please show me a picture of it and it better not be the rima ariadaeus. Look here
en(d0t)wikipedia(d0t)org/wiki/Rima_Ariadaeus
Plus you still havent explained how in the quran it says muhammed cannot perform miracles and muhammed kept saying he couldnt perform miracles and the quran was his only miracle.
There is no crack or glue found *yet*. It must be there as it is mentioned in the holy Qu'ran, and the Qu'ran is perfect. This is one of the great scientific predictions from the Qu'ran.
The crack and the glue on the moon was predicted more than 1400 years ago! And scientists still have to discover it.
Verily, this is a sign that Allah is truly most powerful!
How do you explain Phearoh's body being preserved for generations untill now (and this is the only body in history which is being preserved, although he wasent the only tyrant on earth there were many, but why did god specifically mention pheroah's body being preserved in the following verse where Allah the almighty says
"This day shall We save you in your body, that you may be a Sign to those who come after you! But verily, many among mankind are neglectful of Our Signs." (Holy Quran 10:90-92)
@AllahSucketh How do you explain In the bible, We find the unlearned Prophet in the Book of Isaiah. "And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned" (Isaiah 29:12)
and guess what? the 1st verse to be reaveled to the unlearned prophet was? Read! In the name of your LORD who created. Created man from a clot of blood. Read! And your LORD is most bountiful. He who taught by the pen. Taught man that which who he knew not.(95:1-5)
@AllahSucketh It is unbefitting for God to leave His Message incomplete and His promise unfulfilled, and leave the believers without preserved Guidance. Jesus did not complete his ministry, but promised to send another prophet from the Father who would guide to the Truth, as stated here:
@AllahSucketh It is unbefitting for God to leave His Message incomplete and His promise unfulfilled, and leave the believers without preserved Guidance. Jesus did not complete his ministry, but promised to send another prophet from the Father who would guide to the Truth, as stated here:John 16:7-14
Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
@AllahSucketh It is unbefitting for God to leave His Message incomplete and His promise unfulfilled, and leave the believers without preserved Guidance. Jesus did not complete his ministry, but promised to send another prophet from the Father who would guide to the Truth, as stated here:John 16:7-14
Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
@AllahSucketh It is unbefitting for God to leave His Message incomplete and His promise unfulfilled, and leave the believers without preserved Guidance. Jesus did not complete his ministry, but promised to send another prophet from the Father who would guide to the Truth, as stated here:John 16:7-14
Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
@AllahSucketh It is unbefitting for God to leave His Message incomplete and His promise unfulfilled, and leave the believers without preserved Guidance. Jesus did not complete his ministry, but promised to send another prophet from the Father who would guide to the Truth, as stated here:John 16:7-14
Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
@AllahSucketh It is unbefitting for God to leave His Message incomplete and His promise unfulfilled, and leave the believers without preserved Guidance. Jesus did not complete his ministry, but promised to send another prophet from the Father who would guide to the Truth, as stated here:John 16:7-14
Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
@AllahSucketh It is unbefitting for God to leave His Message incomplete and His promise unfulfilled, and leave the believers without preserved Guidance. Jesus did not complete his ministry, but promised to send another prophet from the Father who would guide to the Truth, as stated here:John 16:7-14
Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
@AllahSucketh It is unbefitting for God to leave His Message incomplete and His promise unfulfilled, and leave the believers without preserved Guidance. Jesus did not complete his ministry, but promised to send another prophet from the Father who would guide to the Truth, as stated here:John 16:7-14
Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
@AllahSucketh It is unbefitting for God to leave His Message incomplete and His promise unfulfilled, and leave the believers without preserved Guidance. Jesus did not complete his ministry, but promised to send another prophet from the Father who would guide to the Truth, as stated here:John 16:7-14
Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
@AllahSucketh It is unbefitting for God to leave His Message incomplete and His promise unfulfilled, and leave the believers without preserved Guidance. Jesus did not complete his ministry, but promised to send another prophet from the Father who would guide to the Truth, as stated here:John 16:7-14
Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
@AllahSucketh It is unbefitting for God to leave His Message incomplete and His promise unfulfilled, and leave the believers without preserved Guidance. Jesus did not complete his ministry, but promised to send another prophet from the Father who would guide to the Truth, as stated here:John 16:7-14
Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
How do you explain In the bible, We find the unlearned Prophet in the Book of Isaiah. "And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned" (Isaiah 29:12)
and guess what? the 1st verse to be reaveled to the unlearned prophet in the quran was? Read! In the name of your LORD who created. Created man from a clot of blood. Read! And your LORD is most bountiful. He who taught by the pen. Taught man that which who he knew not.(95:1-5)
The only thing miraculous about the Koran is how adults can believe it is meant to be the word of a 'god,' whatever a 'god' is. It's clearly man made nonsense based on previous traditions with a little fantasy added by that fraud Mohammed - who had another revelation every time he wanted sex with someone new, or wanted to justify his actions. His revelations got sillier the older he got. Islam is banal. Couldn't Mr God have revealed 'himself' to a nicer more rounded person than crazy Mohammed?
If you have seen this why dont you search MIRCALES OF THE QURAN @ top and maybe youll be satertifed, if u still dont blelive this then y dont you try MIRCALES OF ALLAH,
all your points that were made, none of them was proven!!! at that time none of them was proven, no1 belived it, so u really think that mohammed (sallhu alhi wasalam) would take a whole risk to "make up an unproven scitntific stuff" wrong, he got it sent down to him from allah almighty so he wasnt feared to spread it, if u accitually disagree with the case that he suffered alot proves my points
you are very stupid, because you dont know that Mohammed didnt know how to write and read, so how did he know about all that, or do you think he was a friend of these people 1400 years ago .... open your eyes you will see ISLAM IS THE RIGHT RELIGION.
muhammad knew that the sun was a shining glory and the moon was a lamp.. dont u think even a child of 4 years old cannot see that with his or her own eyes?
you are very stupid, because you dont know that Mohammed didnt know how to write and read, so how did he know about all that.... open your eyes you will see ISLAM IS THE RIGHT RELIGION.
the problem with u my friend is that u have so much doubt in ur mind. i luk at this world everyday, through these eyes such a complex structure, u c the sun go up and down everyday. such a complex structure. to be honest if u honestly believe this came about by chance all of it then wow u r an idiot. y wud we have been created in the first place, life has no purpose if we just die and then thats it. i admit u have gud points in this video but islam is a way of my life. i hope u c it that way.
im not muslim but how do you explain this? mohammad was an illiterate who didn't meet all these scholars to tell him. He just knew. What do you think? was he just a really smart guy or did god tell him
Realy good video. This BS about the "scientific miracles" of the Quran needs to be refuted. Many young and uneducated don´t realize how much was known in the ancient world before Mohammad.
3:151 We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve
This is taken terribly out of context, which sadly something used against all kinds of scripture, islamic or not
The verse here was in the context of the battle of Badr, urging Muslims to fight in the name of God even when they were totally outnumbered since god would "cast terror ...",
Any time there is any one your "god" wants dead (in reality the hate mongers that wrote that disgusting book) they are cast as infidels.
The fact that some verses are in reference to a specific group they are fighting does not compel me. The verse does not say kill the people that live here or there nor does it say kill those that are trying to kill you.
Tell me what is the penalty under Sharia for apostasy.
Great job strawmaning my position and ignoring the rest of my criticism.
If i said i want the spics dead. You could later rationalize that by saying oh he was talking about the Cubans. He wasn't talking about all Hispanic people nor was he denigrating Hispanics in general. The term spic as offensive as i find it can be exchanged for kafir.
You should be ashamed of this garbage instead of defending it.
Once again prove me wrong what is the penalty for apostasy under sharia?
but If I said, you have to defend your nation so kill those spics, I'm obviously referring to the ones who attacked my nation.
That's mostly the case in Qur'an, except the bit about the denigrating term. since 'kafir' = disbeliever = someone who doesn't believe in your faith. I find it a technical term referring to a non-muslim, since all Quranic directions for the order of society assume a Muslim nation, that's just like saying kill those not American people who attacked America.
That's the propaganda many people hold, but having read the qur'an I find that it's grossly exagerrated as the qur'an sets reasonable guidlines for dealing with non-muslims.
try this one
60:08 Allah forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) Faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for Allah loveth those who are just.
yeah calling it propaganda and ignoring my claims go a long way.
To be honest i lost my patience with you when you defended the murdering of people under sharia law. Maybe if you would have spoken with shame and apologized for their "misapplication" of the hatred towards the Kafir (that the koran teaches) i could have ignored it.
Ive already learned everything i need to learn about you. You would defend those that would have me dead for doing what im doing now.
sometimes people twist religion in there own way to fuck the world up. I have read the holly quran (not all of it) but have read alot of it. I see nothing but just and peacefull statements in there. There are translations that people place on the net to twist the words in the holly quran. If you find that as your source, then maybe ou should even try reading a little, you may be suprised. If not then you can't really judge something you have no idea about.. or am i wrong.?
The Koran is full of hatred aimed at any one that does not believe in that sick cult and it sanctifies this hatred.
Maybe i should spend a lifetime being brainwashed into accepting this hate filled, racist, misogynist crap? No thank you, i can smell shit when i step in it i dont need you to tell me it is a rose.
one last thing, if there was a god he would kill you just for insinuating that hatefilled garbage was his work.
"spoken like a true atheist", the koran teaches that disgusting atheist deserve hell and are evil. Small wonder that instead of addressing anything i say you place me in the category of the other and move on.
You prove my point. thank you.
If you think i should be tolerant of this hate filled garbage read the post under this one. Take out the word non belief and replace it with muslim that will show you how tolerant you are. Imagine i said in a non muslim nation muslms should be put to death.
@qarohc i cant help it if you dont believe in god. Seeing as you are an athiest then i have every right to call you one. LOL i dont get what point your trying to make, if any point at all. No im sorry but you prooved my point lol... Be gone with you little child...
You are implying you dont believe in a sky daddy like Yahweh Alah or Vishnu congratulations. Your other posts seem to imply that you are a diluted nut, so forgive me.
Apostasy : one who commits it is given the choice of either death, or leaving the country, or going back to Islam. and this only applies in the case of an Islamic nation.
Why death ? well, since the only nationality for the Islamic nation we're talking about is Islam itself, the act of apostasy is like saying I denounce this nation and no longer bow to it's constitution, that's the same as capital treason, which in many countries has death an the penalty, naturally.
And again you are distorting the truth, If a person lives under sharia and denounces islam they are to be stoned. The option to run to another country is bullshit that you have some how used to make it acceptable in your mind.
3:151 We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve
Well, the Bible has scaringly accurate scientific facts in it. Round Earth, hydrolic cycle, gravity, etc.
Qu'ran mixes scientific fact with scientific error. Yes, there are some scientific facts, but also errors in the Qu'ran. Muslims say that the accuracies must have come from God, but I say they come from Satan. Satan knows this stuff too.
btw- do me one favor read the line before this one,
The sun rises and the sun sets, and hurries back to where it rises.
Do you need to read anything else?
This is one of the lines that forced the church to imprison Galileo for blasphemy when he said the earth is not the center of the universe. Back when the religious had real power and used the bible as a source for "science".
we are not believe in god because we want to prove a point but because we now the earth is coming to an end all because of the sins. the quran is only telling everyone not to do sins because the more sin the bigger the universe expands and the further the heaven move from us. im a muslim but im not a proud one because i drink alcohol, smoke drugs and the rest but want to say one thing to u and ur organisation, if you cant encourage dont discurrage. i hope allah forgives u for this and see u in?
Fundamentalist christianity attempted to destroy all the advances of the Greeks(among others), The destruction of the christian dark ages was lessened because at the middle east at the time was scientifically literate and maintained and improved the knowledge of the past
The fundamentalist muslim then took over and the muslim dark age began.
To claim religion has in any way helped science is not just a lie it is also a display of ignorance
@slicingwater . we are not trying to use anything to prove anything but only trying to take that blindfold/ permenant cateract away from your eyes that has been passed through the DNA from your non beliver parents. i wish this has helped i doubt it your eyes are permenantly blind. thanks
Shakespeare was understood by ppl who lived in his time, so was the quran ppl then knew the language unlike now,speaking the language doesnt mean u understand it..they didnt think future generations would neglect language.Muslims are a cult.. that sounds very ignorant!!! Pretty big cult dont u think!
Its ok not to beleive but its not ok to be ignorant and spread rumours..Women are not opressed, Hijab is a choice not an order,nobody worships a black box in the desert & terrorism is UNislamic
Why did we change the old language change to begin with? Languages were supposed to be passed on as they are....shortcuts,slang.....etc After a few centuries you won't understand a word, Quran Arabic (formal arabic) is taught everywhere and since the quran descended in arabic is only normal to learn arabic to understand it
language EVOLVES just like everything else. now you have to LEARN old arabic to understand the koran? LOL not a very practical way for allah to communicate LOL
@elpecasjose . we need to have more and more of our younger generations to practice so it could be better understood by the future generations. our ignarent parents are the ones to blame for this not the quran or god.
@MrAfthor The koran was addressed to people who lived 1400 years ago. You CANT STOP the evolution of modern language. "Formal arabic" will be a dead language just like latin. Very few people will understand it in the future. therefore,
it is VERY IMPRACTICAL way for an omnipotent being to communicate with us.
It's also worth mentioning that "those who disbelieve" implies general reference to everyone who's not Muslim, while in the context of the verse it was actually referring to the ones who were assaulting the Islamic nation in Medina.
I believe those ideologues came from political situations rather than just islamic values.Look in the Bible and you'll find just as much verses which can be interpreted similarily, yet you don't find Roman Catholics ordering massacares, but they did when the rulers of europe decided to go on their crusades.
Religious scripts can easily be interpreted (or taken out of context) to justify pretty much any atrocity, but that doesn't mean the script actually ordered it or even justified it.
I was talking about how when people want to justify their fight they always can use misinterpretation of any scripture, meaning that the source of the violence is something in their lives not their holy book, but interpreting any text for their uses is convenient, it gives them holy warrior status and convinces some people of their cause.
checkout the last paragraph of Wikipedia's article on 'Abu Sayyaf' and you'll get what I mean.
We can argue a lot about context, real meaning, interpretation and misinterpretation but we already covered that, didn't we?
Warping your words ? All I did was answer the question directly, but if it seems I missed a reference (like the one with the 'asshole') then you have my apology.
youtube makes communication even more difficult. I asked nomatterhowever what the penalty under sharia was for apostasy and he made an incredible defense where he equated the murdering of nonbelievers to treason. I assumed you had read this discussion because you where replying to my reply to him.
I agree with some of what you have to say but you are ignoring that the koran is full of hatred and marginalization of the "kafir", People will justify their hatred, Islam makes it easy.
It seems to me that you are implying that the us is to blame for all the fundamentalist bullshit going on in the middle east and else where. Playing the role of the victimized muslim.
Let me ask you this, why do they get recruited in mosques if it goes against Islam? Explain that to me.
How do i explain it?- Indoctrination, a feeling that nonbelievers are scum, and the inability to question.
Mosques are buildings with no more than 2 employees, at least 0.7 of the population in any Muslim country goes visits them at least once every 2days, you could recruit for anything there, terrorists just need to install an Imam allied with them.
There's some truth to your explanation, people use their versions of Islam to create those kinds.I live in a peaceful muslim nation and havent met anyone who thinks that way in years, why do you think such people only exist in places of turmoil
Again i agree with some of what you say, and i feel that we are not to far from agreement but i feel that you are ignoring my point. The disgusting stories that justify the hatred of nonbelievers in islam lend themselves to the fundementalist hatred and are ignored by others because they think these stories have some "holy" significance.
Sharia law's treatment of unbelievers is a perfect expression of this. Where do you stand on this point?
Most Muslims don't realize Sharia law is more of a framework than a static law, those who study it know it all relies on basic principles that give way to much flexibility. and principles guiding politics are the most complex, there's even a branch called 'Fiqh Al-waqi' (sharia laws under present reality), it's all more complex than a set of archaic rules. the problem is that Islamic sciences has been in a state of decline and that's when fundamentalists began to rise, that's what ignorance does
Those stories are there and the significance(not necessarily holy)is also there, but they are in the end stories,history not rules, they dealt with situation that are basically not the same anymore and set rules dependant on many variables (Fiqh al-waqi).those you classified as 'fundementalist haters' deliberately ignore that fact and nonbelievers could as well be replaced with 'everyone else',such people are a cancer we need to kill, problem is with some Muslims rather than Islam itself
-i was asking specifically what your thoughts are about the killing of kafir under sharia law and how this could have developed if it is indeed against islam to kill unbelievers ( claiming this goes against islam shows ignorance of history imo)
- You sound like the fundamentalist christians that i am more familiar with claiming that you have the real interpretation of the religion and those other people are delusional idiots that misinterpret the truth.
I don't know how reliable is your information . . . . . but any way muslims don't believe in Islam because of these miracles . and prophet Muhammed (PBUH) never said these info of these verses are miracles . it's just info about our universe we live in . rather than wasting your time trying to fake something , go find where the truth and follow !
Why islam should be backed by science, other religious books, "famous" ppl on tv who converted to islam, can it not stand on one's own ground. They take pains to persuade non muslims. Deep down the followers of Islam are not even conviced themself, but are stuck in a dilemma, "should i leave" which is difficult for the ego and hardsome to their environment or "should i convince others" for my own peace of mind.
Aristotle's remark about water probably had to do with evaporation rather than salt water being denser than fresh water.
however, it looks to me (someone who knows very little of islam, and who has only read translations of the quran) that the remark refers to 2 seas. Wikiislam seems to agree with me.
this video does not to show any proof of what the greek historians and others said theres no english meaning to their writings nor is there any references? what kind of proof is that? for all i know you could be making things up! produce your proof with references and clear meanings from the historians who wrote those things before the quran was revealed if you can do that i will believe you.
Why don't you do some of your own research, you lazy bum? It doesn't take much to do a bit of a Google search on said topic. Discussislam doesn't need to wipe your ass for you, do it yourself.
That's going to be a little hard to believe, well for others that is. I'll just have to take your word for it since you are now the new kim either way...
If u guyz r not da most ignorant n blind thing the world as ever seen i dont knw wat is...sm1 cud possibly read n recite da qur'an n still say such crap...wow! i pity u...nwy xplain dis...it took those scientist their entire lives to hv a clue of what Allah is all About, light, iron, water, seven heavens, planets...xplain how an illeterate being (S.A.W) was able to know all this in a short while...
Aristotle wasn't correct, he assumed that embryo formation was union of sperm & menstrual blood& a tiny man in each sperm which grew to be an embryo.
Stages of embryo formation were not even confirmed until recently with the aid of microscopes and technology, while the Quran explains every stage in detail way before any confirmations. If info in the Quran was copied off Aristotle don't u think it would include his theory? Why not talk about the moon split or the expanding universe.....
No, it really doesn;t please explain to me the passage again and name one slightest bit of microscopic science and I will turn a rag-head straight away.
Every single thing was already knwon funnily enough.
And finally no-one on this earth understands the Qu'ran by the way(more proof it is bullshit). Languages change overtime even Shakespears plays cannot be properly translated to modern english open your eyes and leave this pathetic cult.
Arabic is not as simple as its translation, U MUST understand the very complex grammar behind the language before blabbing ur mouth about what U THINK, I see you took the time to take the reading class maybe you shouldn't have skipped the grammar class,..the language of the Quran is said to be a miracle itself, no scholar could ever right like it. And you should really read the whole sura, dont pick the sentences u dont like and leave the rest of it
Although the Quran was very well written, it is no more a miracle than the writings of Shakespeare.
Impressive...Yes
But still the work of mortal men.
Also, instead of boldly claiming that the maker of the video is "blabbing" and that he doesn't understand Arabic grammar, try refuting the actual arguments presented. So, Are those claims made by the Quran? And are the refutations acceptable? If not, why?
"Arabic is not as simple as its translation, U MUST understand the very complex grammar behind the language..."
If the Koran (or Qu'ran) cannot be translated into any other language because 'special words and grammer', how do you explain the Muslims who do not speak ancient Arabic? Are they all deluded illiterate followers who have no idea what they submit to? This is an insulting, elitist implication. Authority should be clear and concise, not nebulous or obfuscatory.
Einstein said that gods are probobly soo way above our comprehention that they can laugh at us somewhere up there.
As Much as i value your effort to find truth, think about it, if it is soo hard to teach a retarded person to be literate, how much more possibilities can exist above our iq? I'm not saying i dont believe science, i'm just saying i'm sceptical:)
And God said, "Let there be an expanse between the waters to separate water from water." 7 So God made the expanse and separated the water under the expanse from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the expanse "sky."
Clearly this describes sea and sky. Sea = salty, sky = sweet water, and an barrier between them.
It's worth noting that the belief that semen came from the kidneys is possibly due to the Vas Deferens tube takes an indirect route from the testicles around the tube from the kidney to the bladder then to the penis, making it look like the tube originates near the kidneys.
This indirect route is a result of evolution, in fish this route is very short, it's only as we evolved and the penis moved to another part of the body that this route occurred due to the tube being wrapped around the other.
because the word smoke dose not mean co2 it means gas he said smoke means co2 in that time there is some stories they say the tea is hot i can see the smoke coming out
and he lied in 1:40 i searched about it and it dose not exist i found another thing that a scientists converted to islam after seeing this
watch the divin book from noreagaaa
and no.3 i cant describe it better than how qurran did if i was going to write a poem
What do you mean at 1:40 he's lying. I have the Qur'an here with me and I read the very same verse. Also, what does hot tea have to do with the big bang? If you're saying that all matter was a big ball of water before the big bang, you're sorrowfully mistaken. As a matter of fact, the more ambiguous the language and words are the less precise and inaccurate and that leaves it too wide open for interpretation which means it can mean anything and it's stupid to say it means the big bang.
This is something that politicians do. They use vague language & many people can therefore agree with it. In science, they attempt to remove ambiguity to have a precise description of what is being observed, leaving little room for interpretation. The same thing can be said about religious text. Ambiguity (vagueness in language) allows for acceptance & agreement. This becomes a problem when it's scrutinized as you have with verses being interpreted as scientific miracles.
& this makes Islam look like a joke. If you want to understand more about language, I suggest you take a look at a book written about the structure of language titled "The Structure of Magic (don't worry, it has nothing to do with magic, just language) and another book titled the Hypnotic Techniques of Milton H. Erickson which describes how vague language is used to put people into a therapeutic trance. These books describe the art of effective communication & how to purposefully use language
to more effectively produce the results you want when communicating with others. An other great set of books would be Six Blind Elephants Vol I and II. When you read these books, it will give you a perspective on things you would never have had otherwise and expand your capabilities in ways you could scarcely have imagined. If you're daring enough, I hope you enjoy them.
If you're talking about when he's speaking Arabic, well, I can't say much to that since I don't speak Arabic, but if you're talking about Surah 23 verse 14, the Surah and verse I thought you were referring to and written there in English, yes, it is the same. Also, I speak English Fluently, something I'm guessing you don't. Also he didn't say that smoke means C02. I just went to that part of the video and he doesn't say that.
at 3:46 he said muneer means shedding light thats a lie it is closer to shining
at 6:53 quran dosent say that the moon and the sun are swimming around the earth it says they aare swimming in the space
at 7:52 now he said gas and smoke are not the same thing but the word gas did not existed in that time they was using the word smoke to describe any gas
im sorry but if you didnt understand this comment too i wont replay
If it means shining light well that proves his point doesn't it, just like the sun shines light. In regards to the sun and the moon he is inferring that they are orbiting the earth since that can be inferred from the verse as well and would have been inferred in the day it was written since it is a vague verse. In regards to the gaseous thing the other thing you must address is that he is actually speaking to them as though they were conscious if you read the rest of the verse. Since when are
do you know that shiny means some thing reflect the light?
the sun dont shines light you cant say that the fire is shiny its gives light means its the light when you bring a knife for an example near the fire and it reflect the light you say its shiny
Thank you for disregarding everything else I said here like smoke and earth being able to talk and having conscious will and all of the other flaws I pointed out and clinging onto the only ambiguous w
Love it!
What will they come up with... this intelligent religion.
Putnis1 1 year ago
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get a life this is the biggest lump of shit ive ever seen. make ur time a lil more useful and find something else to do when did u become a scientist
kassamone 1 year ago
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get a life this is the biggest lump of shit ive ever seen. make ur time a lil more useful and find something else to do when did u become a scientist
kassamone 1 year ago
get a life this is the biggest lump of shit ive ever seen. make ur time a lil more useful and find something else to do when did u become a scientist
kassamone 1 year ago
get a life this is the biggest lump of shit ive ever seen. make ur time a lil more useful and find something else to do
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blackscanberacisttoo 1 year ago
how can you put science and islam in the same sentence?
justanoldman1 1 year ago
@justanoldman1 Well you didn't find it so difficult just now.
lazyperfectionist1 1 year ago
When I check the verses you cite on quran(dot)com, the translation listed is different. Is there a problem with this particular translation? If so, can you recommend a different one?
lazyperfectionist1 1 year ago
@lazyperfectionist1 Translations can differ.
Look up the USC website for three of the better translations.
discussislam 1 year ago
@discussislam University of South Carolina?
lazyperfectionist1 1 year ago
All what you say is great, Muhammad is not the first one to mention these scientific information, but I think also that he was illiterate and doesn't know how to read Arabic, so how he read Greak and Hieroglyphic languages and then translated both into Arabic?
AhmedFathy80 1 year ago
@AhmedFathy80 Mohammed was born into a merchantile culture that traded with Byzantine Greeks on its border. Also Nabateans were helenized Arabs & Mada'in Saleh was 130 km from Medina. The Arab alphabet is Nabatean in origin. Muhammed was a merchant acting as Khadija's agent. He went to Damascus with his Uncle Abu where he traded with Greeks. Greek was the international trading language. There are many possible sources to learn the incorrect Greek version of embryology.
CHAS1422 1 year ago
@CHAS1422 My dear you didn't answer the question, I agree completely with you, but, Muhammed was illiterate and was not capable to read ARABIC, do you think that he preferred to learn Greek through his SHORT visits to Damascus and waste his time studying foreign language while he had his whole life in Mecca without learning ARABIC? then to read what ancient Greeks have come up with and translate it into ARABIC (which he didn't know) and write it as a Holy book?
AhmedFathy80 1 year ago
@AhmedFathy80 There was at least one companion - Nafi ibn al-Harith - who had studied Greek Medicine and would have been well acquainted with the teachings of Aristotle, Hippocrates, and Galen. Greek knowledge was the prevalent knowledge at the time. Muhammad didn't have to read it, only hear about it.
discussislam 1 year ago
@AhmedFathy80 Wasn't Abdullah Ibn Abu Sarh one of Muhammed's scribes? Did Muhammed even need to be literate to listen, or dictate? The supposed "science" in the Koran appears to be descriptions based on simple visual observation (as in Galen). My Junior high school biology book had much more information. Why couldn't God give Muhammed something useful, like a biology or pharmacology text with illustrations? Are biologists better at prophecy?
Why do you take pride in the claims of illiteracy?
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@CHAS1422 My dear you didn't answer the question, I agree completely with you, but, Muhammed was illiterate and was not capable to read ARABIC, do you think that he preferred to learn Greek through his SHORT visits to Damascus and waste his time studying foreign language while he had his whole life in Mecca without learning ARABIC? then to read what ancient Greeks have come up with and translate it into ARABIC (which he didn't know) and write it as a Holy book?
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@CHAS1422 My dear you didn't answer the question, I agree completely with you, but, Muhammed was illiterate and was not capable to read ARABIC, do you think that he preferred to learn Greek through his SHORT visits to Damascus and waste his time studying foreign language while he had his whole life in Mecca without learning ARABIC? then to read what ancient Greeks have come up with and translate it into ARABIC (which he didn't know) and write it as a Holy book?
AhmedFathy80 1 year ago
@CHAS1422 My dear you didn't answer the question, I agree completely with you, but, Muhammed was illiterate and was not capable to read ARABIC, do you think that he preferred to learn Greek through his SHORT visits to Damascus and waste his time studying foreign language while he had his whole life in Mecca without learning ARABIC? then to read what ancient Greeks have come up with and translate it into ARABIC (which he didn't know) and write it as a Holy book?
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AhmedFathy80 1 year ago
IGNORANT: How about Qaba, How About Sea, How about, earth creation, 7 heaven, details about mountains... and so and so ...... you stupid idiot take of this shit video and keep it at your home i have seen all of your videos you are trying to make propaganda about islam Allah will put you in hell, Allah will win you will lose
ULQININYC 1 year ago
Shut up stupid idiot what are you making in your computer shit keep it at your home, Qur'an has been proof of Allah, and billions of people follow it because it's true, How about mountains, How about sea, How about heaven and much more
ULQININYC 1 year ago
comment test....
mando91614 1 year ago
@mando91614 did you pass it then?
cthulhex 1 year ago
@cthulhex Pass what?
mando91614 1 year ago
@mando91614 the comment test. I've heard they are quite hard... nevermind
cthulhex 1 year ago
@cthulhex Oh yes i see what you mean yes sometimes when i type in a comment it doesnt come come up. This new youtube format is to blame.
mando91614 1 year ago
Other scientific miracles in the Qu'ran:
- Muhammad split the moon, that explains the great moon-crack
- Nothing holds a bird up in the air but Allahs hand. This scientifically explains why and how planes fly.
AllahSucketh 1 year ago
@AllahSucketh First muhammed could not perform miracles he even said it himself the only miracle he brought was the quran. Second the crack you speak of in the moon is called a Lunar Rilles its similiar to the gorges and canyons here on earth today. Theese rilles are hundreds of miles deep and long and also similiar to the ones found on other planets as well. The rilles also are found all over the moon there are hundreds of Lunar Rilles. Therefore this mircale is totally ridiculous.
mando91614 1 year ago
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No, Muhammad did actually split the moon. The crack of the moon makes a complete circle. Then he glued it back together again. You can find some remains of glue at the crack at several places where he applied too much of it.
See surat al-qamar 54.1
AllahSucketh 1 year ago
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mando91614 1 year ago
@AllahSucketh @AllahSucketh No you are wrong what you are takling about a lie. There is no complete circle around the moon. There is no crack that splits the moon theese are called Rilles and there are hundreds on the moon and mars and jupiar moons.
mando91614 1 year ago
@AllahSucketh They are severall miles deep but they do not split the moon. The rille you speak of is the rima ariadaeus its 300km but it does not split the moon. Rilles are just cannons,valleyes,trenches, etc. similiar to those on earth.
mando91614 1 year ago
@AllahSucketh @AllahSucketh So who made the cracks on jupitars moons and mars since they also have rilles? Please see this to learn about rilles:
en(d0t)wikipedia(d0t)org/wiki/Rille
mando91614 1 year ago
@AllahSucketh Second muhammed says himself that he cannot perform miracles and the only miracle he offers is the quran itself. When asked to perform a mircale the following was stated:
"Glory be to my Lord; am I aught but a mortal messenger?" Q 17:93
Look what allah says about muhammed and his miracles:
And those who disbelieve say: Why has not a sign been sent down upon him from his Lord? You are only a warner.
Qur'an 13:7
mando91614 1 year ago
@mando91614 So you see what im saying to sum it up: 1st its not a crack in the moon its a rille theres hundreds of them on other moons and mars.
2nd int he quran it says that muhammed could not perform miracles. People kept demanding muhammed to perform a mircle but he kept insessting he was just a man messanger and could not perform miracles.
mando91614 1 year ago
@mando91614
This is not about rilles, this is the miracle of splitting of the moon.
Apparently you don't want to look it up, so:
Surat al-qamar 54.1:
Muhsin Khan: The Hour has drawn near, and the moon has been cleft asunder (the people of Makkah requested Prophet Muhammad SAW to show them a miracle, so he showed them the splitting of the moon).
It is evidently from this holy text that Muhammad split the moon. This is a true scientific miracle, explaining the crack and the glue on the moon.
AllahSucketh 1 year ago
@AllahSucketh No there is no glue or crack on the moon please show me a picture of it and it better not be the rima ariadaeus. Look here
en(d0t)wikipedia(d0t)org/wiki/Rima_Ariadaeus
Plus you still havent explained how in the quran it says muhammed cannot perform miracles and muhammed kept saying he couldnt perform miracles and the quran was his only miracle.
mando91614 1 year ago
@mando91614
"there is no glue or crack on the moon"
...yet.
There is no crack or glue found *yet*. It must be there as it is mentioned in the holy Qu'ran, and the Qu'ran is perfect. This is one of the great scientific predictions from the Qu'ran.
The crack and the glue on the moon was predicted more than 1400 years ago! And scientists still have to discover it.
Verily, this is a sign that Allah is truly most powerful!
AllahSucketh 1 year ago
How do you explain Phearoh's body being preserved for generations untill now (and this is the only body in history which is being preserved, although he wasent the only tyrant on earth there were many, but why did god specifically mention pheroah's body being preserved in the following verse where Allah the almighty says
"This day shall We save you in your body, that you may be a Sign to those who come after you! But verily, many among mankind are neglectful of Our Signs." (Holy Quran 10:90-92)
abakarabrar 1 year ago
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Indeed. In the whole of human history, there has been only one mummified body found. And it was mentioned in the Qu'ran!
Amazing isn't it? Only *one* mummy in the whole wide world, ever found. And the Qu'ran mentions it....
Verily, Allah is pretty astonishing, as 1400 years ago nobody on Earth had ever heard of mummies. Ever.
AllahSucketh 1 year ago
@AllahSucketh How do you explain In the bible, We find the unlearned Prophet in the Book of Isaiah. "And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned" (Isaiah 29:12)
and guess what? the 1st verse to be reaveled to the unlearned prophet was? Read! In the name of your LORD who created. Created man from a clot of blood. Read! And your LORD is most bountiful. He who taught by the pen. Taught man that which who he knew not.(95:1-5)
abakarabrar 1 year ago
@AllahSucketh It is unbefitting for God to leave His Message incomplete and His promise unfulfilled, and leave the believers without preserved Guidance. Jesus did not complete his ministry, but promised to send another prophet from the Father who would guide to the Truth, as stated here:
abakarabrar 1 year ago
@AllahSucketh It is unbefitting for God to leave His Message incomplete and His promise unfulfilled, and leave the believers without preserved Guidance. Jesus did not complete his ministry, but promised to send another prophet from the Father who would guide to the Truth, as stated here:John 16:7-14
Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
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@AllahSucketh It is unbefitting for God to leave His Message incomplete and His promise unfulfilled, and leave the believers without preserved Guidance. Jesus did not complete his ministry, but promised to send another prophet from the Father who would guide to the Truth, as stated here:John 16:7-14
Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
abakarabrar 1 year ago
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@AllahSucketh It is unbefitting for God to leave His Message incomplete and His promise unfulfilled, and leave the believers without preserved Guidance. Jesus did not complete his ministry, but promised to send another prophet from the Father who would guide to the Truth, as stated here:John 16:7-14
Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
abakarabrar 1 year ago
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@AllahSucketh It is unbefitting for God to leave His Message incomplete and His promise unfulfilled, and leave the believers without preserved Guidance. Jesus did not complete his ministry, but promised to send another prophet from the Father who would guide to the Truth, as stated here:John 16:7-14
Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
abakarabrar 1 year ago
@AllahSucketh Lol I love your sarcasim.
mando91614 1 year ago
@AllahSucketh It is unbefitting for God to leave His Message incomplete and His promise unfulfilled, and leave the believers without preserved Guidance. Jesus did not complete his ministry, but promised to send another prophet from the Father who would guide to the Truth, as stated here:John 16:7-14
Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
abakarabrar 1 year ago
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@AllahSucketh It is unbefitting for God to leave His Message incomplete and His promise unfulfilled, and leave the believers without preserved Guidance. Jesus did not complete his ministry, but promised to send another prophet from the Father who would guide to the Truth, as stated here:John 16:7-14
Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
abakarabrar 1 year ago
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@AllahSucketh It is unbefitting for God to leave His Message incomplete and His promise unfulfilled, and leave the believers without preserved Guidance. Jesus did not complete his ministry, but promised to send another prophet from the Father who would guide to the Truth, as stated here:John 16:7-14
Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
abakarabrar 1 year ago
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@AllahSucketh It is unbefitting for God to leave His Message incomplete and His promise unfulfilled, and leave the believers without preserved Guidance. Jesus did not complete his ministry, but promised to send another prophet from the Father who would guide to the Truth, as stated here:John 16:7-14
Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
abakarabrar 1 year ago
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@AllahSucketh It is unbefitting for God to leave His Message incomplete and His promise unfulfilled, and leave the believers without preserved Guidance. Jesus did not complete his ministry, but promised to send another prophet from the Father who would guide to the Truth, as stated here:John 16:7-14
Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
abakarabrar 1 year ago
@AllahSucketh It is unbefitting for God to leave His Message incomplete and His promise unfulfilled, and leave the believers without preserved Guidance. Jesus did not complete his ministry, but promised to send another prophet from the Father who would guide to the Truth, as stated here:John 16:7-14
Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
abakarabrar 1 year ago
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How do you explain In the bible, We find the unlearned Prophet in the Book of Isaiah. "And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned" (Isaiah 29:12)
and guess what? the 1st verse to be reaveled to the unlearned prophet in the quran was? Read! In the name of your LORD who created. Created man from a clot of blood. Read! And your LORD is most bountiful. He who taught by the pen. Taught man that which who he knew not.(95:1-5)
abakarabrar 1 year ago
The only thing miraculous about the Koran is how adults can believe it is meant to be the word of a 'god,' whatever a 'god' is. It's clearly man made nonsense based on previous traditions with a little fantasy added by that fraud Mohammed - who had another revelation every time he wanted sex with someone new, or wanted to justify his actions. His revelations got sillier the older he got. Islam is banal. Couldn't Mr God have revealed 'himself' to a nicer more rounded person than crazy Mohammed?
CorporalNym 1 year ago
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If you have seen this why dont you search MIRCALES OF THE QURAN @ top and maybe youll be satertifed, if u still dont blelive this then y dont you try MIRCALES OF ALLAH,
pkrynopvp 1 year ago
all your points that were made, none of them was proven!!! at that time none of them was proven, no1 belived it, so u really think that mohammed (sallhu alhi wasalam) would take a whole risk to "make up an unproven scitntific stuff" wrong, he got it sent down to him from allah almighty so he wasnt feared to spread it, if u accitually disagree with the case that he suffered alot proves my points
pkrynopvp 1 year ago
you are very stupid, because you dont know that Mohammed didnt know how to write and read, so how did he know about all that, or do you think he was a friend of these people 1400 years ago .... open your eyes you will see ISLAM IS THE RIGHT RELIGION.
waleedyama 1 year ago
@waleedyama stupid fool. adam and eve LMFAO
volound 1 year ago
muhammad knew that the sun was a shining glory and the moon was a lamp.. dont u think even a child of 4 years old cannot see that with his or her own eyes?
JesusOrMuhammad 1 year ago
you are very stupid, because you dont know that Mohammed didnt know how to write and read, so how did he know about all that.... open your eyes you will see ISLAM IS THE RIGHT RELIGION.
waleedyama 1 year ago
the problem with u my friend is that u have so much doubt in ur mind. i luk at this world everyday, through these eyes such a complex structure, u c the sun go up and down everyday. such a complex structure. to be honest if u honestly believe this came about by chance all of it then wow u r an idiot. y wud we have been created in the first place, life has no purpose if we just die and then thats it. i admit u have gud points in this video but islam is a way of my life. i hope u c it that way.
TheRulaBaby 1 year ago
shut up you lier,so pathetic.
egorger2008 1 year ago
im not muslim but how do you explain this? mohammad was an illiterate who didn't meet all these scholars to tell him. He just knew. What do you think? was he just a really smart guy or did god tell him
ubercute1sf 1 year ago
Realy good video. This BS about the "scientific miracles" of the Quran needs to be refuted. Many young and uneducated don´t realize how much was known in the ancient world before Mohammad.
Faidros62 1 year ago
just a small note about #7, the verse never mentions the earth, it just mentions orbits but doesn't describe around what.
@qarohc
3:151 We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve
This is taken terribly out of context, which sadly something used against all kinds of scripture, islamic or not
The verse here was in the context of the battle of Badr, urging Muslims to fight in the name of God even when they were totally outnumbered since god would "cast terror ...",
nomatterhowever 1 year ago
@nomatterhowever
ive hear that claim before, i just dont buy it.
Any time there is any one your "god" wants dead (in reality the hate mongers that wrote that disgusting book) they are cast as infidels.
The fact that some verses are in reference to a specific group they are fighting does not compel me. The verse does not say kill the people that live here or there nor does it say kill those that are trying to kill you.
Tell me what is the penalty under Sharia for apostasy.
qarohc 1 year ago
@qarohc
You don't buy that the verse wasn't generalized ?
Well, if you refer back to the script you'll find that it tells a specific story.
You can't expect every verse with "kill" to have the quote 'only if they try to kill you', that would make the Qur'an about 70 times longer.
My point is, verses in the qur'an are like lines of a book, you can't read it out of context
example:
30:4 In a few years, God decides all, and in that day believers will rejoice
um, huh ? what years ? what day ?
nomatterhowever 1 year ago
Great job strawmaning my position and ignoring the rest of my criticism.
If i said i want the spics dead. You could later rationalize that by saying oh he was talking about the Cubans. He wasn't talking about all Hispanic people nor was he denigrating Hispanics in general. The term spic as offensive as i find it can be exchanged for kafir.
You should be ashamed of this garbage instead of defending it.
Once again prove me wrong what is the penalty for apostasy under sharia?
qarohc 1 year ago
@qarohc
but If I said, you have to defend your nation so kill those spics, I'm obviously referring to the ones who attacked my nation.
That's mostly the case in Qur'an, except the bit about the denigrating term. since 'kafir' = disbeliever = someone who doesn't believe in your faith. I find it a technical term referring to a non-muslim, since all Quranic directions for the order of society assume a Muslim nation, that's just like saying kill those not American people who attacked America.
nomatterhowever 1 year ago
@nomatterhowever
Like i said before i dont buy your explanation.
tell me where im wrong.
1-"God" inspired the koran
2-The koran makes it a point numerous times that the kafir should be treated poorly (death, hell, marginalized, ect)
3-This point is repeated numerous times in different circumstances (not just preparing for battle)
4- the perfect word of "god" teaches us to respect and love the kafir????
Where do the followers of sharia get the crazy idea that apostates should be killed?
qarohc 1 year ago
@qarohc
That's the propaganda many people hold, but having read the qur'an I find that it's grossly exagerrated as the qur'an sets reasonable guidlines for dealing with non-muslims.
try this one
60:08 Allah forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) Faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for Allah loveth those who are just.
nomatterhowever 1 year ago
@nomatterhowever
yeah calling it propaganda and ignoring my claims go a long way.
To be honest i lost my patience with you when you defended the murdering of people under sharia law. Maybe if you would have spoken with shame and apologized for their "misapplication" of the hatred towards the Kafir (that the koran teaches) i could have ignored it.
Ive already learned everything i need to learn about you. You would defend those that would have me dead for doing what im doing now.
qarohc 1 year ago
The whole kafer thing means unbeliever.. unbeliever meaning someone who denounces god and his prophets.
trancegurl84 1 year ago
sometimes people twist religion in there own way to fuck the world up. I have read the holly quran (not all of it) but have read alot of it. I see nothing but just and peacefull statements in there. There are translations that people place on the net to twist the words in the holly quran. If you find that as your source, then maybe ou should even try reading a little, you may be suprised. If not then you can't really judge something you have no idea about.. or am i wrong.?
trancegurl84 1 year ago
@trancegurl84
I you are flat out lying, have you no shame?
The Koran is full of hatred aimed at any one that does not believe in that sick cult and it sanctifies this hatred.
Maybe i should spend a lifetime being brainwashed into accepting this hate filled, racist, misogynist crap? No thank you, i can smell shit when i step in it i dont need you to tell me it is a rose.
one last thing, if there was a god he would kill you just for insinuating that hatefilled garbage was his work.
qarohc 1 year ago
@qarohc spoken like a true athiest,,,.... why do i bother....
trancegurl84 1 year ago
"spoken like a true atheist", the koran teaches that disgusting atheist deserve hell and are evil. Small wonder that instead of addressing anything i say you place me in the category of the other and move on.
You prove my point. thank you.
If you think i should be tolerant of this hate filled garbage read the post under this one. Take out the word non belief and replace it with muslim that will show you how tolerant you are. Imagine i said in a non muslim nation muslms should be put to death.
qarohc 1 year ago
@qarohc i cant help it if you dont believe in god. Seeing as you are an athiest then i have every right to call you one. LOL i dont get what point your trying to make, if any point at all. No im sorry but you prooved my point lol... Be gone with you little child...
trancegurl84 1 year ago
@trancegurl84
The guy that pretends there is an imaginary daddy in the sky protecting him and threatening him calls me a child.
qarohc 1 year ago
@qarohc sorry im not catholic nor am i christian. so um yehhhhhh WRONG REPLY mwa mwa love u
trancegurl84 1 year ago
@trancegurl84
You are implying you dont believe in a sky daddy like Yahweh Alah or Vishnu congratulations. Your other posts seem to imply that you are a diluted nut, so forgive me.
qarohc 1 year ago
@qarohc
Apostasy : one who commits it is given the choice of either death, or leaving the country, or going back to Islam. and this only applies in the case of an Islamic nation.
Why death ? well, since the only nationality for the Islamic nation we're talking about is Islam itself, the act of apostasy is like saying I denounce this nation and no longer bow to it's constitution, that's the same as capital treason, which in many countries has death an the penalty, naturally.
nomatterhowever 1 year ago
@nomatterhowever
your post actually stunned me.
This sick religion has warped your mind.
Are you honestly defending this shit ?
And again you are distorting the truth, If a person lives under sharia and denounces islam they are to be stoned. The option to run to another country is bullshit that you have some how used to make it acceptable in your mind.
3:151 We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve
id rather be dead
qarohc 1 year ago
@qarohc
btw, the aforementioned Islamic nation does not exist nowadays
nomatterhowever 1 year ago
Well, the Bible has scaringly accurate scientific facts in it. Round Earth, hydrolic cycle, gravity, etc.
Qu'ran mixes scientific fact with scientific error. Yes, there are some scientific facts, but also errors in the Qu'ran. Muslims say that the accuracies must have come from God, but I say they come from Satan. Satan knows this stuff too.
maxhiner699 1 year ago
@maxhiner699
Seriously? "the Bible has scaringly accurate scientific facts"
Round earth? like a circle FLAT!
hydrologic cycle?
"For He draws up drops of water,
Which distill as rain from the mist,
Which the clouds drop down"
This is the hydrologic cycle? ok - that would be true of you had zero understanding of what the hydrologic cycle is.
gravity?? ive never hear that one before are you implying that pre bible people where to stupid to realize they where being attracted to the floor?
qarohc 1 year ago
@qarohc
Look up Ecclesiastes 1:7
I'm am Atheist now, but I still can't debunk this one. Can you help me?
maxhiner699 1 year ago
i dont understand your question.
I think you are implying that this verse gives us some sort of understanding about the nature of the water cycle but i just dont see it.
It, like most things in the bible, it is flowery gibberish.
All rivers flow into the ocean yet it never fills, this is a display of ignorance of our geological ocean depth changes.
But this line of criticism is unfair in my eyes because how could these people know? They dint know because they had no way of knowing.
qarohc 1 year ago
@maxhiner699
btw- do me one favor read the line before this one,
The sun rises and the sun sets, and hurries back to where it rises.
Do you need to read anything else?
This is one of the lines that forced the church to imprison Galileo for blasphemy when he said the earth is not the center of the universe. Back when the religious had real power and used the bible as a source for "science".
A bit of irony, you being perplexed by that line.
qarohc 1 year ago
@maxhiner699
never mind i found the article you must be reading in answers in genesis.
They say jesus is a metaphor for gravity because he holds all things together.
WOW!
Why dint we split the atom once we read such a scientifically enlightening revelation???
qarohc 1 year ago
we are not believe in god because we want to prove a point but because we now the earth is coming to an end all because of the sins. the quran is only telling everyone not to do sins because the more sin the bigger the universe expands and the further the heaven move from us. im a muslim but im not a proud one because i drink alcohol, smoke drugs and the rest but want to say one thing to u and ur organisation, if you cant encourage dont discurrage. i hope allah forgives u for this and see u in?
MrAfthor 1 year ago
And i thought religion and science can't get along. I never thought religion was trying to con people by using "science". That's a new step.
slicingwater 1 year ago
It was religion that created science, refer to islamic civilization. And refer to the scientific method created after Islam by muslims.
faro0485 1 year ago
"religion that created science"
What a load of shit.
Fundamentalist christianity attempted to destroy all the advances of the Greeks(among others), The destruction of the christian dark ages was lessened because at the middle east at the time was scientifically literate and maintained and improved the knowledge of the past
The fundamentalist muslim then took over and the muslim dark age began.
To claim religion has in any way helped science is not just a lie it is also a display of ignorance
qarohc 1 year ago
@slicingwater . we are not trying to use anything to prove anything but only trying to take that blindfold/ permenant cateract away from your eyes that has been passed through the DNA from your non beliver parents. i wish this has helped i doubt it your eyes are permenantly blind. thanks
MrAfthor 1 year ago
Shakespeare was understood by ppl who lived in his time, so was the quran ppl then knew the language unlike now,speaking the language doesnt mean u understand it..they didnt think future generations would neglect language.Muslims are a cult.. that sounds very ignorant!!! Pretty big cult dont u think!
Its ok not to beleive but its not ok to be ignorant and spread rumours..Women are not opressed, Hijab is a choice not an order,nobody worships a black box in the desert & terrorism is UNislamic
MsElsawah 1 year ago
why would allah create a book that future generations could not understand or interpret ? LOL
elpecasjose 1 year ago 4
Why did we change the old language change to begin with? Languages were supposed to be passed on as they are....shortcuts,slang.....etc After a few centuries you won't understand a word, Quran Arabic (formal arabic) is taught everywhere and since the quran descended in arabic is only normal to learn arabic to understand it
MsElsawah 1 year ago
language EVOLVES just like everything else. now you have to LEARN old arabic to understand the koran? LOL not a very practical way for allah to communicate LOL
elpecasjose 1 year ago
its up to an individual to understand. God knows whats in your heart weather you praise god or denounce god.
trancegurl84 1 year ago
eh future generation accepts this.. ignorant idiot
Welle92 1 year ago
spoke like a true muslim lunatic
elpecasjose 1 year ago
man you r funny x)
Welle92 1 year ago
@elpecasjose . we need to have more and more of our younger generations to practice so it could be better understood by the future generations. our ignarent parents are the ones to blame for this not the quran or god.
MrAfthor 1 year ago
@MrAfthor The koran was addressed to people who lived 1400 years ago. You CANT STOP the evolution of modern language. "Formal arabic" will be a dead language just like latin. Very few people will understand it in the future. therefore,
it is VERY IMPRACTICAL way for an omnipotent being to communicate with us.
elpecasjose 1 year ago
@MsElsawah
what a bunch of lies and bullshit.
size has nothing to do with a cult. Yes its a big cult.
The all knowing creator dint realize that language would change ? Thats just retarded.
women not oppressed? LOL ok,
Terrorism unislamic? -
3:151 We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve "its not ok to be ignorant and spread rumours"
Welcome to the internet where you cant just rant about your preferred cult and have people stay in silent fear.
qarohc 1 year ago
It's also worth mentioning that "those who disbelieve" implies general reference to everyone who's not Muslim, while in the context of the verse it was actually referring to the ones who were assaulting the Islamic nation in Medina.
nomatterhowever 1 year ago
@nomatterhowever
If some one said kill all the Muslims i would not make excuses for them. I would say that those hate filled bigots should be shunned and marginalized.
This garbage has wrapped the minds of many fanatical ideologues because people like you make excuses for it.
Lets all be glad that we have the anonymity of the internet or else the one true tool islam has would be used to silence any "kafir" , fear.
Again what is the penalty under sharia for apostasy?
qarohc 1 year ago
@qarohc
I believe those ideologues came from political situations rather than just islamic values.Look in the Bible and you'll find just as much verses which can be interpreted similarily, yet you don't find Roman Catholics ordering massacares, but they did when the rulers of europe decided to go on their crusades.
Religious scripts can easily be interpreted (or taken out of context) to justify pretty much any atrocity, but that doesn't mean the script actually ordered it or even justified it.
nomatterhowever 1 year ago
@nomatterhowever
".Look in the Bible and you'll find just as much verses which can be interpreted similarily"
The old testament is one of the most disgusting books ever compiled, It makes the koran look mild in comparison.
That doesnt make your point any more valid. All that it proves is that these ancient superstitions where venomous and should all be eradicated.
Or tell us again how Islam teaches you that the murdering of nonbelievers can be justified under the right political conditions
qarohc 1 year ago
@qarohc
I was talking about how when people want to justify their fight they always can use misinterpretation of any scripture, meaning that the source of the violence is something in their lives not their holy book, but interpreting any text for their uses is convenient, it gives them holy warrior status and convinces some people of their cause.
checkout the last paragraph of Wikipedia's article on 'Abu Sayyaf' and you'll get what I mean.
your 2nd point: simple, war? self defense?
AmmarNotes 1 year ago
@AmmarNotes
If your "holy" books has many examples of genocide being commanded by "god" how is it a misinterpretation?
These disgusting things are in there, the problem is that "believers" ignore it.
onto my second point- i dont appreciate you warping my words to be misunderstood and made meaningless.
I was referring to that asshole defending the murder of nonbelievers under sharia. Not war, and not self defense.
qarohc 1 year ago
@qarohc
We can argue a lot about context, real meaning, interpretation and misinterpretation but we already covered that, didn't we?
Warping your words ? All I did was answer the question directly, but if it seems I missed a reference (like the one with the 'asshole') then you have my apology.
AmmarNotes 1 year ago
youtube makes communication even more difficult. I asked nomatterhowever what the penalty under sharia was for apostasy and he made an incredible defense where he equated the murdering of nonbelievers to treason. I assumed you had read this discussion because you where replying to my reply to him.
I agree with some of what you have to say but you are ignoring that the koran is full of hatred and marginalization of the "kafir", People will justify their hatred, Islam makes it easy.
qarohc 1 year ago
@AmmarNotes
I dont get your point about that terrorist group.
It seems to me that you are implying that the us is to blame for all the fundamentalist bullshit going on in the middle east and else where. Playing the role of the victimized muslim.
Let me ask you this, why do they get recruited in mosques if it goes against Islam? Explain that to me.
How do i explain it?- Indoctrination, a feeling that nonbelievers are scum, and the inability to question.
qarohc 1 year ago
@qarohc
Mosques are buildings with no more than 2 employees, at least 0.7 of the population in any Muslim country goes visits them at least once every 2days, you could recruit for anything there, terrorists just need to install an Imam allied with them.
There's some truth to your explanation, people use their versions of Islam to create those kinds.I live in a peaceful muslim nation and havent met anyone who thinks that way in years, why do you think such people only exist in places of turmoil
AmmarNotes 1 year ago
@AmmarNotes
Again i agree with some of what you say, and i feel that we are not to far from agreement but i feel that you are ignoring my point. The disgusting stories that justify the hatred of nonbelievers in islam lend themselves to the fundementalist hatred and are ignored by others because they think these stories have some "holy" significance.
Sharia law's treatment of unbelievers is a perfect expression of this. Where do you stand on this point?
qarohc 1 year ago
Most Muslims don't realize Sharia law is more of a framework than a static law, those who study it know it all relies on basic principles that give way to much flexibility. and principles guiding politics are the most complex, there's even a branch called 'Fiqh Al-waqi' (sharia laws under present reality), it's all more complex than a set of archaic rules. the problem is that Islamic sciences has been in a state of decline and that's when fundamentalists began to rise, that's what ignorance does
AmmarNotes 1 year ago
@qarohc
Those stories are there and the significance(not necessarily holy)is also there, but they are in the end stories,history not rules, they dealt with situation that are basically not the same anymore and set rules dependant on many variables (Fiqh al-waqi).those you classified as 'fundementalist haters' deliberately ignore that fact and nonbelievers could as well be replaced with 'everyone else',such people are a cancer we need to kill, problem is with some Muslims rather than Islam itself
AmmarNotes 1 year ago
@AmmarNotes
2 points
-i was asking specifically what your thoughts are about the killing of kafir under sharia law and how this could have developed if it is indeed against islam to kill unbelievers ( claiming this goes against islam shows ignorance of history imo)
- You sound like the fundamentalist christians that i am more familiar with claiming that you have the real interpretation of the religion and those other people are delusional idiots that misinterpret the truth.
qarohc 1 year ago
"Do they not consider the Qur'an (with care)? Had it been from other Than Allah, they would surely have found therein Much discrepancy". 4:80
Go ahead and find one!
Sohyb09 1 year ago
yahya is a charlatan.
AcanLord 1 year ago
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jaf8max 1 year ago
Why islam should be backed by science, other religious books, "famous" ppl on tv who converted to islam, can it not stand on one's own ground. They take pains to persuade non muslims. Deep down the followers of Islam are not even conviced themself, but are stuck in a dilemma, "should i leave" which is difficult for the ego and hardsome to their environment or "should i convince others" for my own peace of mind.
zxcvbnm7644 1 year ago
Aristotle's remark about water probably had to do with evaporation rather than salt water being denser than fresh water.
however, it looks to me (someone who knows very little of islam, and who has only read translations of the quran) that the remark refers to 2 seas. Wikiislam seems to agree with me.
Telamnar 1 year ago
this video does not to show any proof of what the greek historians and others said theres no english meaning to their writings nor is there any references? what kind of proof is that? for all i know you could be making things up! produce your proof with references and clear meanings from the historians who wrote those things before the quran was revealed if you can do that i will believe you.
ayunus7 1 year ago
are you deaf?
he said quran copies accuracies as well as inaccuracies. qurn claims emen comes from the spine and ribs
jigglyfidda125 1 year ago
@ayunus7
Why don't you do some of your own research, you lazy bum? It doesn't take much to do a bit of a Google search on said topic. Discussislam doesn't need to wipe your ass for you, do it yourself.
KimDonesia 1 year ago
Isn't the original kimdonesia supposed to have closed her account?
faro0485 1 year ago
@faro0485 I did, however opened it again. Just kind of hiding now.
KimDonesia 1 year ago
That's going to be a little hard to believe, well for others that is. I'll just have to take your word for it since you are now the new kim either way...
faro0485 1 year ago
5 STARS!
finnsia 1 year ago
If u guyz r not da most ignorant n blind thing the world as ever seen i dont knw wat is...sm1 cud possibly read n recite da qur'an n still say such crap...wow! i pity u...nwy xplain dis...it took those scientist their entire lives to hv a clue of what Allah is all About, light, iron, water, seven heavens, planets...xplain how an illeterate being (S.A.W) was able to know all this in a short while...
xadyck1 1 year ago
sorry to say that your study of HOLY QURAN is very weak.i would like your debate with doctor zakir naik
faisalkhan257 1 year ago
@faisalkhan257 Zakir Naik is a liar period!
Abbodine1 1 year ago
Prove it
sultanms7 1 year ago
Aristotle wasn't correct, he assumed that embryo formation was union of sperm & menstrual blood& a tiny man in each sperm which grew to be an embryo.
Stages of embryo formation were not even confirmed until recently with the aid of microscopes and technology, while the Quran explains every stage in detail way before any confirmations. If info in the Quran was copied off Aristotle don't u think it would include his theory? Why not talk about the moon split or the expanding universe.....
MsElsawah 1 year ago
@MsElsawah
No, it really doesn;t please explain to me the passage again and name one slightest bit of microscopic science and I will turn a rag-head straight away.
Every single thing was already knwon funnily enough.
403766 1 year ago
@MsElsawah
And finally no-one on this earth understands the Qu'ran by the way(more proof it is bullshit). Languages change overtime even Shakespears plays cannot be properly translated to modern english open your eyes and leave this pathetic cult.
403766 1 year ago
i dont need to study the quran to know that is all bullshit.
tbcslayer 1 year ago 2
Arabic is not as simple as its translation, U MUST understand the very complex grammar behind the language before blabbing ur mouth about what U THINK, I see you took the time to take the reading class maybe you shouldn't have skipped the grammar class,..the language of the Quran is said to be a miracle itself, no scholar could ever right like it. And you should really read the whole sura, dont pick the sentences u dont like and leave the rest of it
MsElsawah 1 year ago
Although the Quran was very well written, it is no more a miracle than the writings of Shakespeare.
Impressive...Yes
But still the work of mortal men.
Also, instead of boldly claiming that the maker of the video is "blabbing" and that he doesn't understand Arabic grammar, try refuting the actual arguments presented. So, Are those claims made by the Quran? And are the refutations acceptable? If not, why?
norcofreerider604 1 year ago
@MsElsawah you said
"Arabic is not as simple as its translation, U MUST understand the very complex grammar behind the language..."
If the Koran (or Qu'ran) cannot be translated into any other language because 'special words and grammer', how do you explain the Muslims who do not speak ancient Arabic? Are they all deluded illiterate followers who have no idea what they submit to? This is an insulting, elitist implication. Authority should be clear and concise, not nebulous or obfuscatory.
CHAS1422 1 year ago
Einstein said that gods are probobly soo way above our comprehention that they can laugh at us somewhere up there.
As Much as i value your effort to find truth, think about it, if it is soo hard to teach a retarded person to be literate, how much more possibilities can exist above our iq? I'm not saying i dont believe science, i'm just saying i'm sceptical:)
KiddaDevonHiHi7 1 year ago
"The two waters" is from Genesis 1:6
And God said, "Let there be an expanse between the waters to separate water from water." 7 So God made the expanse and separated the water under the expanse from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the expanse "sky."
Clearly this describes sea and sky. Sea = salty, sky = sweet water, and an barrier between them.
TheRationalizer 1 year ago
It's worth noting that the belief that semen came from the kidneys is possibly due to the Vas Deferens tube takes an indirect route from the testicles around the tube from the kidney to the bladder then to the penis, making it look like the tube originates near the kidneys.
This indirect route is a result of evolution, in fish this route is very short, it's only as we evolved and the penis moved to another part of the body that this route occurred due to the tube being wrapped around the other.
TheRationalizer 1 year ago
Prove it! please show us where he's lying and back it up with facts.
Abbodine1 1 year ago
because the word smoke dose not mean co2 it means gas he said smoke means co2 in that time there is some stories they say the tea is hot i can see the smoke coming out
and he lied in 1:40 i searched about it and it dose not exist i found another thing that a scientists converted to islam after seeing this
watch the divin book from noreagaaa
and no.3 i cant describe it better than how qurran did if i was going to write a poem
jaf8max 1 year ago
and if he will say mohamed read all of those things he will be a lier because mohamed cannot read in the first place
i couldnt answer every thing its too long
peace
jaf8max 1 year ago
What do you mean at 1:40 he's lying. I have the Qur'an here with me and I read the very same verse. Also, what does hot tea have to do with the big bang? If you're saying that all matter was a big ball of water before the big bang, you're sorrowfully mistaken. As a matter of fact, the more ambiguous the language and words are the less precise and inaccurate and that leaves it too wide open for interpretation which means it can mean anything and it's stupid to say it means the big bang.
Abbodine1 1 year ago
This is something that politicians do. They use vague language & many people can therefore agree with it. In science, they attempt to remove ambiguity to have a precise description of what is being observed, leaving little room for interpretation. The same thing can be said about religious text. Ambiguity (vagueness in language) allows for acceptance & agreement. This becomes a problem when it's scrutinized as you have with verses being interpreted as scientific miracles.
Abbodine1 1 year ago
& this makes Islam look like a joke. If you want to understand more about language, I suggest you take a look at a book written about the structure of language titled "The Structure of Magic (don't worry, it has nothing to do with magic, just language) and another book titled the Hypnotic Techniques of Milton H. Erickson which describes how vague language is used to put people into a therapeutic trance. These books describe the art of effective communication & how to purposefully use language
Abbodine1 1 year ago
to more effectively produce the results you want when communicating with others. An other great set of books would be Six Blind Elephants Vol I and II. When you read these books, it will give you a perspective on things you would never have had otherwise and expand your capabilities in ways you could scarcely have imagined. If you're daring enough, I hope you enjoy them.
Abbodine1 1 year ago
minute 1 second 40 in the video and i dont think you have the quran because in surah one there is only 7 verses
in the video he said smoke means CO2 but smoke means gas
what the hell in english is your mother language?
i didnt said that what so ever i know its cant be a big ball of water
jaf8max 1 year ago
If you're talking about when he's speaking Arabic, well, I can't say much to that since I don't speak Arabic, but if you're talking about Surah 23 verse 14, the Surah and verse I thought you were referring to and written there in English, yes, it is the same. Also, I speak English Fluently, something I'm guessing you don't. Also he didn't say that smoke means C02. I just went to that part of the video and he doesn't say that.
Abbodine1 1 year ago
at 3:46 he said muneer means shedding light thats a lie it is closer to shining
at 6:53 quran dosent say that the moon and the sun are swimming around the earth it says they aare swimming in the space
at 7:52 now he said gas and smoke are not the same thing but the word gas did not existed in that time they was using the word smoke to describe any gas
im sorry but if you didnt understand this comment too i wont replay
have a nice day
jaf8max 1 year ago
If it means shining light well that proves his point doesn't it, just like the sun shines light. In regards to the sun and the moon he is inferring that they are orbiting the earth since that can be inferred from the verse as well and would have been inferred in the day it was written since it is a vague verse. In regards to the gaseous thing the other thing you must address is that he is actually speaking to them as though they were conscious if you read the rest of the verse. Since when are
Abbodine1 1 year ago
is the earth conscious or smoke (in your interpretation gas) conscious and able to speak?
Abbodine1 1 year ago
do you know that shiny means some thing reflect the light?
the sun dont shines light you cant say that the fire is shiny its gives light means its the light when you bring a knife for an example near the fire and it reflect the light you say its shiny
jaf8max 1 year ago
Thank you for disregarding everything else I said here like smoke and earth being able to talk and having conscious will and all of the other flaws I pointed out and clinging onto the only ambiguous w