I think they who decided or made this to be Rom Anthem, did lyrics for Rom ppl and it have great message to all Roma over the world. Beautifful music why fight over it just play it
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@video257 The composer was a writer too,and his admiration for Mussolini ,who invited him personally in Italy, and Hitler was mentioned in his articles,books,memoires.He even suffered political persecution from early communist regime for his political pro-German views.He also wrote Romanian Tangos under pseudonim Claude Romano. SOOO! the Gypsies should stop stealing folklore and music from other nations to avoid embarassing situations!
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@video257 The name of the song is 'Ionel,Ionelule" by George Sbarcea,a Romanian composer (1914-2005) musicolog and writer.This song had its premiere in 7 jan.1937 in Alhambra Music-hall theatre Bucharest.The first part of jelem jelem is IDENTICAL with this song (the refrain of jelem jelem is form another song)Ionel,ionelule was a hit in Romania,has dozens of versions and it's very well known and was pre-ww2 recorded.
@bojycs I appreciate your comment here but please give me 30 days (maximum): I intend to do an indepth study on his claims and will get back to you and publish here the results. Thanks again.
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LOL, this song is a well-known Romanian party song,writtten in 1937 by Romanian composer George Sbarcea, for a Romanian musical in Alhambra Theatre Bucharest. Gypsies did steal a musical song from Romanians and make it 'anthem"? LOL.The composer was a Hitler an Mussolini admirer.Those Gypsies steal music like hillarious fools! LOL
@MrCraiessou Can you document your 3 claims, please, by sending me an email with your facts: 1, that it was written in 1937 by Romanian composer George Sbarcea for a Romanian musical in Alhambra Theater Bucarest, 2, that the composer was a Hitler and Mussolini admirer. I am a Canadian with neither rom nor romanian origins and I will not leave here, in these comments, unsupported claims. If you provide these facts, I will include them here above.
@MrCraiessou Can you document your affirmations please by sending me an email with your facts: your first affirmation that it was written in 1937 by Romanian composer George Sbarcea, for a Romanian musical in Alhambra Theatre Bucharest and your second affirmation that the composer was a Hitler an Mussolini admirer. I am a canadian with neither rom nor romanian origins and I will not leave here, in these comments, unsupported claims. If you provide these facts, I will include them here above.
Esti un bou, daca esti prost stai in banca ta. Melodia e mai veche decat strabunica ta, proasta si ea altfel nu se explica existenta ta.
And to translate for our other friends, this song is very very old and doesn't have any connection with any romanian compositor. In fact it has gypsy russian origins.
After the WW2 holocaust the lyrics were changed with the actual ones in order to exprim the gypsy sufferance and now this is the gypsy anthem.
@bojycs Truth hurts!Jelem jelem is a combination of two stolen tunes.Apart the refrain,the rest is "Ionel,Ionelule"by G.Sbarcea,composed in 1938.Sorry if you are deaf!Cat despre partea in romana se vede clar ce nivel intelectual ai!Insultele de la idioti afoni ca tine ma onoreaza!Tiganii sa inceapa si ei sa compuna melodii originale nu sa fure de unde pot,cum fac si cu manelele.
The facts you present are interesting;however the world unfortunately requires proof - this is how acadamia works! Please be so kind as to put up on Youtube examples (or direct to examples) justifying your declarations.Let it not be said you are victimised - please adequately defend yourself before people decide they have had enough of you.
@Churchillsrevenge Just google the names..You are the victims.The 1971 Congress gave you a fake anthem,fake name,fake history.If you feel comfortable with an 1937 Far Right youngsters hit as an anthem,that's fine with me.A new wailing sound and new lyrics do not change a light music-hall Romanian tune.You can easily delete my comm.but you cannot delete the truth.
Nearly 45% of Y chromosomes belong to haplogroup VI-68, and a single lineage within that haplogroup, found across Romani populations, accounts for almost one-third of Romani males. A similar preservation of a highly resolved male lineage has been reported elsewhere only for Jewish priests
@ToniDeGrandi Regarding this subject, I refer people interested to the web site of the American Journal of Human Genetics entitled Origins and Divergence of the Roma (Gypsies), web site which is shown at the end of my infos above in this video's description.
te aven saste taj bahtale romale pe kada phuv...me sim rom anda jugoslavija....shukar la amari hymna so kerdias jek rom anda jugoslavija ;)....ashen devlesa
Says, "Beautiful! I know you're Roma (dre do sfteto sare - I don't know what he says here). Lucky. Lots of luck and good health.
Technically there's not real way to write Gypsy, you basically write it how it's pronounced so that's why the few other words couldn't be trnalsated - couldn't get it.
The translation is def. a bit off, it might be some of the same words yes - but he's also singing about meeting up with some gypsies, getting drunk with them, and seeing a beautiful girl, with black hair and eyes, and a red head scarf. He does talk about traveling roads, and the he went, went (djelem), but NOTHING about murder, people dying.
Just for the fact, these Roma are Kalderasha, nothing wrong with it, but my fam is Machuwaya, even though the language is almost the same, there is differences - so it's like getting 80%-90%, not completely clear to me.
Gypsies are entitled not only to their culture but also to their own homeland. The entire world should see to this rightful historical demand. It is Europe's moral responsability to do so, specially after the infamous Gypsy holocaust perpetrated by the Germans and their partners in mass murder. Long live the GYPSY REPUBLIC!!
Great song - first made popular by Romani people from Serbia in the '70. Should check the version by Olivera Katarina/Vuco (from the movie 'Skupljaci Perja'), it's great.
Hello Tziganee: I have 3 more clips from this group on youtube. Search for the word gypsy and Odessa and you will find them. I am happy you liked them.
Greetings from Finland,i really liked theyr performanse alot and if u found these guys playing somewhere dont hesitate to record em,i want to hear moreeeee
Aven bahtale romalen
morath1000 7 months ago
com on romanes you
harundelic901 11 months ago
una dintre melodiile universale nemuritoare.
eliseivirgil1 1 year ago
que lindo//!!!! muita energia
sbellato 1 year ago
You may wanna check this too:
Video DOREL LIVIANU at 83, part 8 of 17, Ionel, Ionelule
watch?v=fzsv6lj8hQc
aofg 1 year ago
Craiessou it's right. This is nothing but a slow-downed part of a well known Romanian song from pre WW2 era called "Ionel, Ionelule".
Check the link below:
watch?v=sHpBWD8gP6U
aofg 1 year ago
I think they who decided or made this to be Rom Anthem, did lyrics for Rom ppl and it have great message to all Roma over the world. Beautifful music why fight over it just play it
Tziganee 1 year ago
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@video257 The composer was a writer too,and his admiration for Mussolini ,who invited him personally in Italy, and Hitler was mentioned in his articles,books,memoires.He even suffered political persecution from early communist regime for his political pro-German views.He also wrote Romanian Tangos under pseudonim Claude Romano. SOOO! the Gypsies should stop stealing folklore and music from other nations to avoid embarassing situations!
MrCraiessou 1 year ago
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@video257 The name of the song is 'Ionel,Ionelule" by George Sbarcea,a Romanian composer (1914-2005) musicolog and writer.This song had its premiere in 7 jan.1937 in Alhambra Music-hall theatre Bucharest.The first part of jelem jelem is IDENTICAL with this song (the refrain of jelem jelem is form another song)Ionel,ionelule was a hit in Romania,has dozens of versions and it's very well known and was pre-ww2 recorded.
MrCraiessou 1 year ago
@video257 The beginning of the first sentence above should be: Can you document your affirmations, please, by sending me an email with your facts:
video257 1 year ago
@video257
You can check by your own on wikipedia ( search gelem gelem) and after please delete his comment.
This type of music, the nomad music, doesn't have a compositor.
I know that it sounds strange, but just to give you an example please check who wroght Romeo and Juliet.
Probably MrCraiessou will say that it was Shakespeare (we already know that he is dumb), but if you make a small search again on wikipedia ....
bojycs 1 year ago
@bojycs I appreciate your comment here but please give me 30 days (maximum): I intend to do an indepth study on his claims and will get back to you and publish here the results. Thanks again.
video257 1 year ago
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LOL, this song is a well-known Romanian party song,writtten in 1937 by Romanian composer George Sbarcea, for a Romanian musical in Alhambra Theatre Bucharest. Gypsies did steal a musical song from Romanians and make it 'anthem"? LOL.The composer was a Hitler an Mussolini admirer.Those Gypsies steal music like hillarious fools! LOL
MrCraiessou 1 year ago
@MrCraiessou Can you document your 3 claims, please, by sending me an email with your facts: 1, that it was written in 1937 by Romanian composer George Sbarcea for a Romanian musical in Alhambra Theater Bucarest, 2, that the composer was a Hitler and Mussolini admirer. I am a Canadian with neither rom nor romanian origins and I will not leave here, in these comments, unsupported claims. If you provide these facts, I will include them here above.
video257 1 year ago
@MrCraiessou Can you document your affirmations please by sending me an email with your facts: your first affirmation that it was written in 1937 by Romanian composer George Sbarcea, for a Romanian musical in Alhambra Theatre Bucharest and your second affirmation that the composer was a Hitler an Mussolini admirer. I am a canadian with neither rom nor romanian origins and I will not leave here, in these comments, unsupported claims. If you provide these facts, I will include them here above.
video257 1 year ago
@MrCraiessou
Esti un bou, daca esti prost stai in banca ta. Melodia e mai veche decat strabunica ta, proasta si ea altfel nu se explica existenta ta.
And to translate for our other friends, this song is very very old and doesn't have any connection with any romanian compositor. In fact it has gypsy russian origins.
After the WW2 holocaust the lyrics were changed with the actual ones in order to exprim the gypsy sufferance and now this is the gypsy anthem.
bojycs 1 year ago
@bojycs Truth hurts!Jelem jelem is a combination of two stolen tunes.Apart the refrain,the rest is "Ionel,Ionelule"by G.Sbarcea,composed in 1938.Sorry if you are deaf!Cat despre partea in romana se vede clar ce nivel intelectual ai!Insultele de la idioti afoni ca tine ma onoreaza!Tiganii sa inceapa si ei sa compuna melodii originale nu sa fure de unde pot,cum fac si cu manelele.
MrCraiessou 1 year ago
@MrCraiessou
The facts you present are interesting;however the world unfortunately requires proof - this is how acadamia works! Please be so kind as to put up on Youtube examples (or direct to examples) justifying your declarations.Let it not be said you are victimised - please adequately defend yourself before people decide they have had enough of you.
Best wishes.
Churchillsrevenge 1 year ago 9
@Churchillsrevenge Just google the names..You are the victims.The 1971 Congress gave you a fake anthem,fake name,fake history.If you feel comfortable with an 1937 Far Right youngsters hit as an anthem,that's fine with me.A new wailing sound and new lyrics do not change a light music-hall Romanian tune.You can easily delete my comm.but you cannot delete the truth.
MrCraiessou 1 year ago 2
SUKARO ROMA FINLAADEZ, XAVE BACTALIO
karjalanyman 1 year ago
Bellissima canzone!!!! from Hungary
Cristiny85 2 years ago 2
Nearly 45% of Y chromosomes belong to haplogroup VI-68, and a single lineage within that haplogroup, found across Romani populations, accounts for almost one-third of Romani males. A similar preservation of a highly resolved male lineage has been reported elsewhere only for Jewish priests
ToniDeGrandi 2 years ago
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@ToniDeGrandi Regarding this subject, I refer people interested to the web site of the American Journal of Human Genetics entitled Origins and Divergence of the Roma (Gypsies), web site which is shown at the end of my infos above in this video's description.
video257 1 year ago
Nope, real Roma gypsies originate form India. There language Romani is similar to Hindi/ Punjabi do the research bud!
MASTERJAX 2 years ago
Roma Gypsies originate from the Rajasthan region of India
MASTERJAX 2 years ago
TOOO!!
Bravi bravi bravi :D
Very nice!!
omicronxy 2 years ago
nice))
Nusulamun 2 years ago
San rom from Romania . Proud of being roma , iven if i dont speak so well rromani
barro27 2 years ago 7
Wow really nice, i love gypsy music!
Emmakissa 2 years ago 5
Excellent Music!
zarthoshti 2 years ago 2
ive heard some 20 versions of this song, this is quite unique. great job.
ZuzerHun 3 years ago 7
They are very good indeed. See my other videos of this trio.
video257 3 years ago
СПАСИБО БРАТАНАМ!!!
ПРИВЕТ ИЗ МОКВЫ!
solomonzx 3 years ago 2
I'm a part Romany Scottish girl, and I'm proud as punch of it :D
Great music, makes me smile :)
MrsSatan 3 years ago
i´m roma from austria but my grandmother was was a hungarian romni
i´m proud to be roma
latscho drom
Gsp2008now 3 years ago 6
Love the music Kind Regard Laszlo auszrtalia
laszlosirsom 3 years ago
catar san prala?
amorrlatino 3 years ago
Me sim katar USA.
DrewOchsner 3 years ago
Latcho Dives!
Sarshin Rrom?
Nais tu ta shukra gilli!!
Oprey Roma!
But bacht ta latcho Drom!
shahnee66 3 years ago
What a beautiful performance! Very cool : )
mochi2222 3 years ago
tejaven tumie bahtale ciavale bahtumenge tumare semjenge adai cindi romano ciavo litvatir
baxtalociavo 3 years ago
Nais Tuke for posting this!
Beautiful!
OPRE ROMA!!!
RhiannonRawnie 3 years ago
Šukar gili. Gelem gelem hini amari hymn, Romale!
baribul 4 years ago
te aven saste taj bahtale romale pe kada phuv...me sim rom anda jugoslavija....shukar la amari hymna so kerdias jek rom anda jugoslavija ;)....ashen devlesa
romanoilo1 4 years ago
siukar!!! Jawen tume e sare Roma dre do sfeto sare, bachtełe. But bacht, sastypen!!! Turyno.
turyno 4 years ago
I am the one who filmed this video. Can someone translate what turyno wrote above? Thanks, Robert.
video257 4 years ago
Says, "Beautiful! I know you're Roma (dre do sfteto sare - I don't know what he says here). Lucky. Lots of luck and good health.
Technically there's not real way to write Gypsy, you basically write it how it's pronounced so that's why the few other words couldn't be trnalsated - couldn't get it.
Puppybur 4 years ago
Oops, lol. This is my brother's account, I thought I was on mine - JulianaKartsona.
Puppybur 4 years ago
Puppybur: please relay my thanks to your sister, JulianaKartsona.
video257 4 years ago
I just wanted to say "nais tuke" (thank you) to you for posting these videos. :)
Sastipe.
ArisztidZ 3 years ago
The translation is def. a bit off, it might be some of the same words yes - but he's also singing about meeting up with some gypsies, getting drunk with them, and seeing a beautiful girl, with black hair and eyes, and a red head scarf. He does talk about traveling roads, and the he went, went (djelem), but NOTHING about murder, people dying.
JulianaKartsona 4 years ago
Just for the fact, these Roma are Kalderasha, nothing wrong with it, but my fam is Machuwaya, even though the language is almost the same, there is differences - so it's like getting 80%-90%, not completely clear to me.
JulianaKartsona 4 years ago
Bravo phrales , sastipe, bahtale me sim rom ando Canada
Phralo1 4 years ago
te jawen saste bahtale sykade lenge syr ruskes bagalpe
stiven15 4 years ago
To zapewne najlepsze wykonanie Hymnu Romów !!!
EGON5750 4 years ago
Gypsies are entitled not only to their culture but also to their own homeland. The entire world should see to this rightful historical demand. It is Europe's moral responsability to do so, specially after the infamous Gypsy holocaust perpetrated by the Germans and their partners in mass murder. Long live the GYPSY REPUBLIC!!
globalconsult 4 years ago 2
My heart is going to sing and dance with You.
Great...
basiaxol 4 years ago 2
Zivjeli Braca Moja... Long live my brothers..
Daniele3251976 4 years ago 2
long live the Roma!
phaethon1979 4 years ago 2
thank you so much for putting this up!!
ressetar 4 years ago 2
romale te aven bartale, me sim rrom katar o brasil ay me dilabav dik murre videos
euaeu 4 years ago
this is beatiful song,i love it,and I play this song on accordion...
guerrini001 4 years ago
good song this is the oldschool gypsy track
buczo213 4 years ago
Great song - first made popular by Romani people from Serbia in the '70. Should check the version by Olivera Katarina/Vuco (from the movie 'Skupljaci Perja'), it's great.
MyLovelyPlanet 4 years ago
The best version is ofcourse the one of Saban Bajramovic!!!!The great legend! He sings it in an incredible way!
devladevla 4 years ago 2
Awesome video, I love this song, one of my favorite vids on YouTube. There pretty good Roma musicians. We appreciate you for uploading this!
JulianaKartsona 5 years ago
Hello Tziganee: I have 3 more clips from this group on youtube. Search for the word gypsy and Odessa and you will find them. I am happy you liked them.
video257 5 years ago
Is there link to download this clip?
im new user in youtube..
Tziganee 5 years ago
Greetings from Finland,i really liked theyr performanse alot and if u found these guys playing somewhere dont hesitate to record em,i want to hear moreeeee
Tziganee 5 years ago