1. Its not the scientific minority, its the majority. 2. Kent hovind is not a real scientist and demonstrates ignorance of common ancestry by saying proof of evolution is a dog turning into a cat 3. quoting scripture to prove your point is called "begging the question", its a fallacy 4. Hovinds $250,000 is worded so that its impossible to provide what hes asking 5.calling evolution a model doesnt discredit it....This is exhausting. This is why I run from creationism. They are dishonest.
Here is the deal- We'll agree to teach ID in public schools and Sunday schools, Bible studies, and religious schools teach Darwin's theories of evolution.
@ChristJesussavedall I was not referring to a piece of evidence in particular. I was talking about how when evidence doesn't fit the scientific explanation it is changed to reflect that evidence. Creation doesn't do that as their beliefs cannot be changed even when they are shown to be false.
An example of this is the continued assertion that there are no transitional fossils. Look up the evolution of Whales. This was a creationist favourite in the past, but it's fairly complete now.
@freemind62 the example you give is not an example of evolution. The fossils you refer to are cross breads and also the example isn't a human one. There are no human transitional fossils.
@ChristJesussavedall Every human is "transitional", you are "transitional", I am "transitional". I think you should try to learn what evolution is. Look up *evolution* in wikipedia! : )
it amazes me that this is still being argued. I find it interesting that it's only non-biologists that seem to be screaming about it. I'll take my scietific theories from people qualified to make them.
great commentary..god damn creationists...can someone tell me how to watch the vid without the commentary though? i just love laughing at this vid...again good work man
if you take the time to look at the actual evidence and not just somebodys interpretation you find christianity holding far more weight than most people think...living and serving a God that wants what is best for me and my life is not what i consider a waste...my relationship with my creator has only helped me live a life free from fear and the unknown...a blind leap of faith is not what God wants people to take...and it certainly not what is required...
@stinkyflesh Yes well I read the Koran, and the Koran says that your wrong, so you should come worship my god, because my god is the right god, and he says your god is stupid and anyone who is a christian will go to hell. So looks like I'm right and your wrong. Funny how that works ain't it??? PS, it doesn't take faith to look at reality, your just to stupid, and maybe with a little research and open mindedness you would realize that, and don't tell me to be open minded about god, already did.
As with many so called christians they use a watered down and copyrighted version(someone gets paid).Evolution is a religion and according to it ,it doesn't matter how we treat each other.Is is a coincidence that we are being poisoned in our food ,water and the air we breathe?We as a soceity are being coralled and depopulation is coming soon,its already upon us.There are some questions that simply can not be answered...that should not stop us from seeking truth while it can be found.KJV is truth
2: I know a few fundies who think they can pollute and do whatever they want as when Jebus cums, he'll suck it all clean
3: KJV has many errors in translation and if it is the truth, we know from if that we are to slaughter our enemies, their cattle, the male children and take the young female virgins as our prize.
@dragonloses Evolution isn't a religion. evolution is a theory that best fits our gap of understanding regarding our origin.
there are things we don't know. but normally we can find no empirical evidence to support a theory. so there is no answer in a question we don't know until we can find some information to support a theory.
@nstoner111 I understood it. It made perfect sense. What part did you not understand? English is my second language and still I understand this better than you? Maybe you just don't want to partake in an argument you know you are losing and CHOOSE not to understand? "No one is as blind as he who wish not to see."
A great series to watch is Potholer54. He does a great job of explaining real science stripped of religious and political BS. What does science really say? Watch Potholer 54 for an objective explanation. Soon you will see why creationists are not being honest about what science says. Science does NOT support creationism no matter how much these creationists wish that it did.
Hold up, lets say for a second evolution is completly correct, if it is true the purpose of humanity would be to be born, live, and die... Thats it...now lets ask the question what if your wrong? Well according to biblical belief the evolutionist, if he hasnt been born again, will probably go to hell by what we know from the bible... Now if a christian is wrong... What has he wasted? Absolutly nothing...he will end up in the ground like his evolutionistic brother...
@freemind62 Yes FM62...It's Pascal's wager being re-used again & again....gotta love it !!!
It is still being used like all the rest of the long-dead, but recycled "questions for EVILutionists". Gotta wonder if the people reusing these questions are seriously asking a question or just trying to bog-down the discussion to avoid the inevitable. Oh well, better post a link explaining why there are still apes, why evo. cannot explain gravity on & on. ......sigh....
"Now if a christian is wrong... What has he wasted? Absolutly nothing...he will end up in the ground like his evolutionistic brother..."
And, of course, if the christian is wrong about all other religions, he might just as well burn in any other hell in the history of religion - the muslim hell, Tartaros, Mictlan or naraka, etc.
Also, you would've spent the only life you have chasing phantasms and invisible people that were nowhere to be found.
@stinkyflesh "if it is true the purpose of humanity would be to be born, live, and die." As to Genesis 1:28, where the purpose of humanity is to "Be fruitful and increase in number"?
"what if your wrong" If God is as fickle and unjust to base eternal punishment solely on the position of one "belief", then Hell would be Paradise.
"What has he wasted? Absolutly nothing." Unless you are wrong on the entity. Then you go to Hell while the one who went with the evidence gets to Heaven.
@stinkyflesh I have not seen any proof for the existence of god, you suggest I would lead a very dishonest life, just to save my skin? Would'nt god see that I did not truly believe and send me to hell anyway? You just want me to conform, out of a fear of hell. A christian has condemned people on the basis of an old stuffy book, has wasted time and money on going to church, has told lies to his children, has not used his mind correctly.
@stinkyflesh Atheists live a ful life.. Christians dont... they live a god fearing life and question everything u do whether its right or wrong.. The concept of hell as a whole makes no sense.. Also you are forgetting other religions in this world apart from christians.. What is our purpose it life if we are atheists.. make a better future for man kind.. what is the Purpose of Christians in particular ? To fear god and live with GOD for infinite time after u die.. no thanks...
well sure its just that we dont see enoght evednce in the bible to do this and this argument be uesd for any reliogen say islam is completly true then shouldn't you worship allah so you dont have to suffer in the desert for the rest of your life
i dont think that either you or i want to become muslum becaues of the threat of there hell becaues we dont belive in it and social pressure or a empty warning can not change your true belifes and even if we acted that way and if the god was real
"Now if a christian is wrong... What has he wasted? Absolutly nothing.."
In that case, he then just wasted the only infinitely precious life he got, worshiping a fantasy,
If Christians are right about god, that still renders evolution most plausible by any objective standard regardless of the existence of any god
I am sure any that any Just, knowing, loving and wise god would appreciate that intellectual honesty, cause if god did not, he would not be Wise nor Just nor loving.
@stinkyflesh You say there is nothing to risk with believing the bible is true. Well the bible teaches that we will be here for only a short time. With this type of mentality we will use up our natural resources, not try and discover new types of fuel and basically leave a planet ruined for our childrens children to clean up. So yes there are very horrible consequences to deal with if you are wrong, just not in your life time......
@stinkyflesh And what happens if we're both wrong? What happens if we die and go meet big blue six-armed Vishnu? Who do you think he'll be kinder on, someone who worshiped a false god, or someone who remained neutral on the issue?
7:17 funny how they don't both to read the next sentence where Darwin explains the transitional forms. This is a writing technique called bridging, where you transition to a next point with an ambiguous question or statement. But you know, I'm sure Christians would NEVER bare false witness by quote mining . . .
@stinkyflesh Unless the Christian finds out in the afterlife he's been following the wrong religion and the wrong god all along... oops. Pascal's Wager is self-serving nonsense.
@stinkyflesh hold on besides useing Pascal's Wager your trying to say becouse we evolved that we as humans have no value?your so wrong.we as people have done many great things the only thing i hate us humans doing is when we harm a dog or house cat that depends on us for safety or that wer littering and dumping garbage.if we try to live a good life try not to kill clean our naberhood and try to respect our earth thats just some of the things that put meaning to our life ...
Respond to this video... quit tiptoeing around buddy there are like 3 different evolution getdowns and 1 is abiogensis however its spelled.ihate when evolutionists use that argument when you know it all falls under evolution yet you know theres big holes in the format so u weasel ur way to changed the sub abiogensis is a form of evolution yet you can poke holes in it so u weasel ur way
Both sides are not correct. Evolution still has many holes in it. Micro-evolution makes sense, but macro-evolution has neither been proven or explained. At the same time Christianity is taking a horrible look at the situation. Christians are too closed-minded. Plus their religion is parodied on sun worship. There is a supreme being and a creator. How can there be intelligent design without an intelligent designer?? Scientist cannot seem to answer this question. God is real. Christians are dumb
@nstoner111 All intelligent design as put forward are nothing but arguments from ignorance.
What is basicly does is this "this doesnt look like it could have evolved because all the parts seem to depend on each other, therefore it did not evolve and X did it"
When something is complex you ask "how did this happen", you dont just give up and declare it "unresolvable" - that´s the path to stagnation. In any case, all proposed IC systems have been found to have evolutionary pathways.
@nstoner111 what do you mean that Macro-evolution "hasn't been been proven or explained?" There is actually no real difference between macro-evolution and micro-evolution. It is perfectly logical to think that many small changes in genes will eventually make a new species.
Compare micro evolution to eroding a grain of sand from a rock, and compare macro evolution to changing the rocks shape. If you keep eroding grains of sand from the rock, after a while you dramatically change the rock's shape.
It did not come from some therory that has not been proven it makes me sad to see the people made in my Gods likenes make him look small but he is not small he is bigger than any thing
Wrong!!!!..u have now made useless mutations..that dont function..Evolution is not happening they way we think it is..study the complexity of the flagellum...!!!!!...that never could have evolved !!!..never without dying!!..it needs all of its parts at once to live
It's important to understand that there is a big difference between science and belief systems. Scientific laws and theories are tools used to solve problems. Religions are things you believe in. Evolution is NOT something you believe in. It is a tool used to solve problems... like your hammer. You don't believe in your hammer, you use it to solve problems.
Murat Altun, 26, who was the driver and bodyguard for Bishop Luigi Padovese, was charged with murder on Friday at a court in the southern city of Iskenderun.
"I had a revelation and I killed him," Altun told investigators, the NTV television channel and Milliyet newspaper reported.
God works in mysterious ways but his justice is swift.
@Strikesnake1994 While I don't know about your expertise or patience. I just use plain old MS movie maker. Not ideal for compex videos, but more than enough to do ones like this. I suggest you give it a try one day. I REALLY need to make more videos, just out of the habit really, but it's not too hard. I mean I do it :)
Portuguese navigator and explorer, the first European to cross the Pacific Ocean
The church says the earth is flat, but I know that it is round, for I have seen the shadow on the moon, and I have more faith in a shadow than in the church.
Wow. Nice Darwin quote mining on their part. If they included the rest of the passage it would have destroyed they're argument. This sort of stupidity should be criminal.
Good video. But God is most definitely real and Evolution is most definitely not. If you doubt it, read 'the attempted murder of God' - A critical book at a critical time, it reveals the secrets of science that comprehensively demolish the theory of Evolution and provides scientific proof for God - a scientific certainty kept hidden from the world that in this critical time in history can now be revealed.
@byScrooby Yeah, okay. As if there's a conspiracy to further the agenda of evolution. Perhaps you should read a book about new scientific theories. There's a lot of scrutiny no matter what the theory is. The reason evolution stands is that no empirical data suggests that it's wrong.
@byScrooby Hmmm... Read "a" (one) book and get all the answers... OR get a real education that requires many books and many hours of researching so you don't get the OPINION of some idiot. I'll take a real education everytime...
Kent Hovind :The trial concluded on November 1 with the defense deciding not to present a case.[150] After closing arguments were presented on November 2, the jury deliberated three hours before finding the Hovinds guilty on all counts, 58 for Hovind and 44 for his wife. On January 19, 2007 Hovind was sentenced to ten years in prison and ordered to pay the federal government restitution of over $600,000. After his prison term finishes he will serve another three years of probation.
this is like a video on the positive effects of marijuana where the only people talking are the potheads. maybe they should have asked some evolutionists about their views on the matter. the fact that they didn't completely ruins the validity of this argument
He is in prison for something he didnt do, 501c3 is a minsitry duhh thats how government put people in jail for taxes when the 16th amendment wasnt really ratified lol
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I find it hilarious that from my observations 95% of youtubers are Atheists. And give other Atheists/Evolutionist videos 5 Star ratings while giving creationist videos 1 star ratings. Even if the creationist video has tons of good points nope atheists/evolutionist HAVE to give it 1 star ratings. So since to me 95% of youtubers are atheists this explains the huge bias 5 star athiest videos and the 1 star creationist videos.
Isn't that a contradiction in terms?? Maybe you mean the points like when Hovind says dinosaurs use to be fire breathing dragons. Or how about the one that plants are not really alive because they don't bleed.
what about the possibility that those creationist videos have sub par points that prove nothing. Did you do some sort of census of Youtube or something, how can you make this claim? simply because the creationist videos are voted low? I have honostly yet to see one creationist video with any "good points" and especially not "tons of great points".
Our discovery put an end to a debate as old as the human species: Does life have some magical, mystical essence, or is it, like any chemical reaction carried out in a science class, the product of normal physical and chemical processes? Is there something divine at the heart of a cell that brings it to life? The double helix answered that question with a definitive No. James D. Watson
I was commenting on hat655's comment. It didn't make much sense to me. As far as the chemical reactions, how does that take away from the sanctity of man?
Actually for all practical purposes we ARE just a set of chemical and physical reactions! ALL it is that you do is a series of behavioural responses you learned as you were devloping. A simple neuron will produce an action potential (AP), in a resonise to a stimulus. Connect a few together and they will produce a set of APs that is DIFFERENT for every stimuli. These sets of APs are learned. After a while, any stimulus they encounter will automatically produce a sertain set of APs.
I'm certainly an advocate of science, evolution, and the study of abiogenesis. But I insist...please elaborate on how the double helix answered or proved life is a chemical reaction? To this date, life and its orgins are a immensley complex and difficult subject to even study. How do you correlate Waton's discovery to life's origins?
I did not correlate Waton's discovery to life's origins. I simply meant that nothing in the study of life proves anyone's perception of God as the creation of life. It seems like an accurate statement to say that nothing divine has been found in the heart of the cell. Can you say it has?
The study of life sciences in all fields from abiogenesis to evolutionary biology support design.
Not in the same way traditional religious folk use a common gaps argument, but design can be rationalized with the data we have currently logically and statistically.
We have a Bio-Geneticist by the Name of Laurence Tisdall who is making this theory Flawed. I believe in MICRO-Evolution which is TOTALLY different from Macro, well sorta I believe in the Variation's of Kinds of animals, like short and tall, and different hair etc.. but yeah. Science is Science, it isn't about Morals or origins. Evolution isn't Science, it uses Science to support its theory, but it still explains origins, which is a RELIGION. Anything that explains origins = RELIGION. Sorry.
Evolution is science, however psuedo intellectuality is not actual intelligence. I assume your agree with Kent Hovind and his ilk. Macro-evolution has been witnessed and proven in the fossil record. Also micro evolution leads to macro evolution. Finally evolution is NOT a religion, requires no faith, there is evidence. Please argue FOR your god and NOT against everything else.
@acledmaiden the fossil record? it proves nothing lol there is no proof for evolution. if we evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys? it takes more faith to be an evolutionist than creationist. Look at what you believe, you believe we all came from a rock! You believe that some how nothing exploded and somehow made everything... but each to his own
I like how you've copypasta'd the five most commonly refuted and most fallacious creationist arguments as if they hadn't been invalid for over a hundred years.
Fossil record shows transitional forms. You'll claim there aren't any, I'll refer you to google.
We didn't evolve form monkeys, we evolved from apes, and that is why we are still apes.
Evolution doesn't require faith, we have evidence.
We claim to come from our parents, you claim we came from dust.
@PCGamerProDude Genes are genes. If you accept the fact that genes mutate over time, you must accept that macro evolution can occur. Otherwise, you're a moron.
17 Those others do not have pure motives as they preach about Christ. They preach with selfish ambition, not sincerely, intending to make my chains more painful to me. 18 But that doesnt matter. Whether their motives are false or genuine, the message about Christ is being preached either way, so I rejoice. And I will continue to rejoice. Philippians 1:17-18
God makes the sun, moon, and stars on the fourth day.
Sadly, that's a bit backwards from how we know it happened. Carbon and iron can only be created in the heart of a sun. The stars came before the earth, and the Sun came before the Earth, and some very long time after that plants were formed.
Tear that page out of your Bible so the book won't be a lie, before you quote any other part of it at us.
God makes the sun, moon, and stars on the fourth day." ONE NIGHT!!!!! Plants survive every night, that's your proof that the Bible is wrong?? Have any of you watched a special on evolution and how they say life evolved? WELL, F.Y.I. it includes Abiogenesis. Cosmology is not included (most of the time) but has been at times. All this video is trying to do is narrow the definition to only include speciation (proof?).
Your arguing over ONE NIGHT???? And your the one who used Bible verses. God is life, He provided the plants what they nedded until He made the sun. He's all powerful, can't be all that hard.
No, your wrong and you shouldn't have used the Bible. God is ALMIGHTY and to use His book to disprove creation, bad ideal. Your trying to make God fictional by using the Bible, that's your mistake. I mean really, a God isn't a true God if He's not all powerful. He can make it happen anyway He wants. Science, only discovers what God leaves behind. Not necessarily in the correct order, but in the order HE puts it in. Order out of chaos?? Kinda sounds like the Big bang theory.? lol
Oh don't be silly. I was wrong because I tried to use the Bible, which is already wrong about everything. It's obvious that Thor created the universe, not God. God doesn't even HAVE a magic hammer, so he couldn't have done it.
@badpanda84 Would a judge let a murderer go free? Would a good parent let their child get away with doing wrong? It doesn't seem wrong to the child? All the suffering in the world was caused by our ancestor's sin which we can't escape except through Jesus.
Would that same judge sentense great grand children of that murderer just because their great grandparent did the wrong? Would the parents have to punish ALL their children for whatever their brother/sister did? And what kind of commandments are those? Half of them don't even make sense, while the rest are common sense! And there are exceptions to every rule... even to those that "God" set... especially if they are in favor of that "God"!
@vbirdieb You're funny. You have no idea how much we know about Evolution because you haven't had a real education (that starts at a respectful University). I am quite a long way into my BcSc (Evo Bio) and for anyone to argue against you is frustrating to see, as man-hours go to waste. So many things you think you know but you really know nothing. Keep posting, it is a good laugh.
thinking that that all people believe in the bible and the god that is protayed in the bible is the most stupidest agrument to ever exsist just because the bible is not totally correct that doesnt mean that other gods are not flawless to claims that are against the bible for all those people that think there so amazing because they beat the bible get over yourself the bible isnt the only portrayl of god and your claims mean nothing if you claim the bible in your theory
Fervent theists seem to think we view science as they view religion: infallible.
They also are stuck in the mindset that since one thing that contradicts God makes him infallible and therefore impossible, one thing that contradicts science has the same effect.
Soon, for the first time in History, a religion will be toppled over - not because it was replaced by another religion - but because logic and rational thinking replaced it. These are interesting times! :-)
This documentary really made me mad. I wanted to argue through the computer screen! But I couldn't. They established afoundation for the argument (weakly) and I wanted to argue it....Very frustrating.
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Lol. Go on thinking u came from a monkey i dont mind.
You can go ahead and argue the ageless wisom all you want, but could make your own video? you just inserted comments in someone elses. Abiogenesis is a different science lol i like that one. Clever way to avoid answering the fact that you cant make life from nothing. The fact we alledgedly evolved from apes, but apes are still around, and no known evolution has taken place in recorded history is a testemant to your faith..blind faith.
Really? Ok. So where is this alledged ancestor to the apes.
Evolution makes some pretty big assumptions. We know civilized mankind has been around way before we have thought. There is no poof of this common ancestor. Unless your referring to lucy which is just a bunch of mix matched bones of an obvious ape. you might have some argument, but house cats and lions look alike too which evolved to what? What did a dodo bird evolve from or to? Dinasours evolved into birds lol? Prolly not.
Abiogenesis is the field of study concerned with how self-replicating systems came into being through chemical processes.
we are apes, and we didn't evolve from the apes that are living today we had a common ancestor.
look up the new species of bacteria that have emerged in the past decade. and don't say "well they are still bacteria" that is like saying "well its still a mammal" bacteria is a very broad term but we have seen both new genus and species arise from evolution
really do you know nothing of evolution we didnt come from apes or monkeys or chimps. evolution says we are related and came from the same ancestor. there is only 4% difference in chimp and human dna that is fact.
that bit with the children is absolubtly disgusting and the allowance for these people to teach children should be banned, since they arent of any regignised form of factual education, these kids will grow up finding it hard to let go of their imaginary friend when they could of had a go at something within science, no wonder why theirs less and less scientists, if these idiots arent stopped, we'll end up back in the dark ages. cheers
This is absolutely hilarious. The program starts with the lady in the courtroom assuring us that we are about to hear an "unbiased view"...then subjects the viewer to a stream of creationist propaganda, without even attempting to represent the views of 95% of the global scientific community!
And as for the disgusting indoctrination of children at 4:42 ...well, that just makes me sick.
haha, crazy people ... ughhh (sigh) eventually the majority will come to their senses and we won't have even hear about this debate anymore. haha Darwin = Jesus, ahhahaha. That's awesome. Nice video
many realms of life after death. move on in an energy state. In this after life there are many levels enlightenment, those who have found peace and love and are open to other realms od possibilty move up in statues. Its very simple. There is in a sence life aftrer death but one that knows no time, time doesent exsist there. Time is am illusion created by the enlightened ones who created the unviverse as a way to go from pure enlightenment source to to a physical form to know a diffent realm.
if the earth is only 6500 years old, then noah's arc was built 4327 years ago. Using exponential functions theres no way you can go from 2 people to 6.8 billion. How do creationists deny carbon dating? Even the pope acknowledges creationism is bs.
The woman in the video fails from the word go. EVEN IF the Bible was 100% accurate and agreed totally with science, it would still not be a science book. Science explains HOW things happen. It gives methods, processes etc. The Bible does not say how God created the world and how he continues to work to this day.
I have no facts that debunk evolution, but I have a fact that proves the reality of Jesus Christ. Its called the Shroud of Turin. Please research this artifact (its the most studied in history, so you should be able to find good scientific journals on it) and then explain to me with "one fact" that debunks Jesus Christ. Remember, science textbooks will all be different in 50 years, but the message of Jesus Christ is timeless, unchanging, eternal.
Hi tommyk77. Science is not "self-correcting" because it needs PEOPLE to make mistakes first, just like religion. Science does not make the mistake. Men APPLYING the science do. For example, just as the Inquisition cannot be found in the teachings of Jesus Christ, reason dictates that PEOPLE MAKE MISTAKES, not the Laws that are not properly understood yet. You fail to realize that religion learns just like science. The only difference is that with FAITH the end justifies the means.
The people make up the science. The process of gaining knowledge about our world is self-correcting in that the people who are a part of it make corrections.
The Bible does have verses that allow for inquisitions. It's a highly flawed book. Where do you think people got the idea from in the first place.
Science achieves more than faith. Plus, it doesn't lead to wars and close-mindedness
The only thing intelligent people can do is use the most current, best data. When better data is obtained, you don't act like a stupid muslim and ignore it, you have to actually update your theories.
No. It means current scientific theories are based on the most current, most accurate data available, while religion is based on ignorance and false data. Theories don't "keep chaning", dummy. They change IF better data is discovered that warrants updating them. And people don't "believe 100%" in a theory, they simply recognize that a scientific theory is the most likely and best explanation for some observed phenomena.
Do you believe in the Theory of gravity? How about Germ Theory? Atomic Theory? Relativity?
No Theory will EVER be 100% "correct". A theory is a model that explains observations. Facts. If, indeed, a 3-legged Aardvark is responsible for gravitation, when evidence sheds light on this fact... The Aardvark Theory will come forth. But not until there's evidence. Real evidence.
THAT... is the difference between science and mythology.
1. Its not the scientific minority, its the majority. 2. Kent hovind is not a real scientist and demonstrates ignorance of common ancestry by saying proof of evolution is a dog turning into a cat 3. quoting scripture to prove your point is called "begging the question", its a fallacy 4. Hovinds $250,000 is worded so that its impossible to provide what hes asking 5.calling evolution a model doesnt discredit it....This is exhausting. This is why I run from creationism. They are dishonest.
Johnf85 5 days ago
Here is the deal- We'll agree to teach ID in public schools and Sunday schools, Bible studies, and religious schools teach Darwin's theories of evolution.
Sounds fair to me ...Hitchens rules.
mojo1517 3 months ago
Why is that the the Christian creationists cannot see that quote mining is wrong? Have they never heard of the Ninth Commandment?
stevehayes13 4 months ago
i love how they separate man birds and reptiles lol creationist never cease to amaze me with their stupidity please keep up the good work freemind62
mimarp478 4 months ago
5:16 what is the evidence.
And he didn't just point out problems with hi theory he actually discredited it thee it out the window.
ChristJesussavedall 5 months ago
@ChristJesussavedall I was not referring to a piece of evidence in particular. I was talking about how when evidence doesn't fit the scientific explanation it is changed to reflect that evidence. Creation doesn't do that as their beliefs cannot be changed even when they are shown to be false.
An example of this is the continued assertion that there are no transitional fossils. Look up the evolution of Whales. This was a creationist favourite in the past, but it's fairly complete now.
freemind62 5 months ago
@freemind62 the example you give is not an example of evolution. The fossils you refer to are cross breads and also the example isn't a human one. There are no human transitional fossils.
ChristJesussavedall 5 months ago
@ChristJesussavedall "There are no human transitional fossils."
you mean, the transitional fossils from the common ancestor to modern humans?
there are 16 sub-species between them.
i suggest you do some research first
OmfgItsHenu 4 months ago
@ChristJesussavedall Every human is "transitional", you are "transitional", I am "transitional". I think you should try to learn what evolution is. Look up *evolution* in wikipedia! : )
winterstellar 4 months ago
The King Clone Creosote Bush disproves Creationism.
Owned by a Plant - Pahaha.
bluemoonrising26 6 months ago
Want to find a bunch of evolutionists hanging out go to a university
Want to find a bunch of creationists hanging out go to a trailer park
MrKGatl 6 months ago
great video.. well done
sariglenn 6 months ago
i feel so sorry for her as she has to use lies to support her position.
MrChristainchris 7 months ago
it amazes me that this is still being argued. I find it interesting that it's only non-biologists that seem to be screaming about it. I'll take my scietific theories from people qualified to make them.
squeezycheeseypeas 7 months ago
wouldent he be able to tell your true belifes
supperanter5000 7 months ago
oh god disregard my last comment im an idiot...i should always read the description..sorry!!!!
Ututwhynot 8 months ago
great commentary..god damn creationists...can someone tell me how to watch the vid without the commentary though? i just love laughing at this vid...again good work man
Ututwhynot 8 months ago
Wait weren't those hooded cross burners and Mr Hitler. Christian? LOL Bad example to use theist. Or actually a good one I suppose.
seeker6789 9 months ago
Kent Hovind has a prison release date of August 11, 2015 his inmate number is 06452-017 #FAIL brainwashing #FAIL
HighPoweredLasers 9 months ago
if you take the time to look at the actual evidence and not just somebodys interpretation you find christianity holding far more weight than most people think...living and serving a God that wants what is best for me and my life is not what i consider a waste...my relationship with my creator has only helped me live a life free from fear and the unknown...a blind leap of faith is not what God wants people to take...and it certainly not what is required...
stinkyflesh 10 months ago
@stinkyflesh Yes well I read the Koran, and the Koran says that your wrong, so you should come worship my god, because my god is the right god, and he says your god is stupid and anyone who is a christian will go to hell. So looks like I'm right and your wrong. Funny how that works ain't it??? PS, it doesn't take faith to look at reality, your just to stupid, and maybe with a little research and open mindedness you would realize that, and don't tell me to be open minded about god, already did.
BARNEYRAPEDME69 10 months ago
"Invisible qualities have been clearly seen" ROLF, you couldn't make it up Religious retard shoots self in foot.
TheTomtompiper 1 year ago
As with many so called christians they use a watered down and copyrighted version(someone gets paid).Evolution is a religion and according to it ,it doesn't matter how we treat each other.Is is a coincidence that we are being poisoned in our food ,water and the air we breathe?We as a soceity are being coralled and depopulation is coming soon,its already upon us.There are some questions that simply can not be answered...that should not stop us from seeking truth while it can be found.KJV is truth
dragonloses 1 year ago
@dragonloses:
1: Evolution is not a moral philosophy
2: I know a few fundies who think they can pollute and do whatever they want as when Jebus cums, he'll suck it all clean
3: KJV has many errors in translation and if it is the truth, we know from if that we are to slaughter our enemies, their cattle, the male children and take the young female virgins as our prize.
Some truth.
sol3a1 1 year ago
@dragonloses Evolution isn't a religion. evolution is a theory that best fits our gap of understanding regarding our origin.
there are things we don't know. but normally we can find no empirical evidence to support a theory. so there is no answer in a question we don't know until we can find some information to support a theory.
DebateMeTheists 1 year ago
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@dragonloses "Evolution is a religion and according to it ,it doesn't matter how we treat each other"
Evoultion says nothing about morals and how we treat each other.
".Is is a coincidence that we are being poisoned in our food ,water and the air we breathe"
And yet we have achieved a high life expectancy that the previous generations
badpanda84 11 months ago
@nstoner111 I understood it. It made perfect sense. What part did you not understand? English is my second language and still I understand this better than you? Maybe you just don't want to partake in an argument you know you are losing and CHOOSE not to understand? "No one is as blind as he who wish not to see."
Hopefulfilment 1 year ago
A great series to watch is Potholer54. He does a great job of explaining real science stripped of religious and political BS. What does science really say? Watch Potholer 54 for an objective explanation. Soon you will see why creationists are not being honest about what science says. Science does NOT support creationism no matter how much these creationists wish that it did.
coolgreyoneabby 1 year ago
Hold up, lets say for a second evolution is completly correct, if it is true the purpose of humanity would be to be born, live, and die... Thats it...now lets ask the question what if your wrong? Well according to biblical belief the evolutionist, if he hasnt been born again, will probably go to hell by what we know from the bible... Now if a christian is wrong... What has he wasted? Absolutly nothing...he will end up in the ground like his evolutionistic brother...
stinkyflesh 1 year ago
@stinkyflesh Pascal's Wager? Honestly? You're using Pascal's Wager?
That was discredited about 20 seconds after it was written. Just read the Wikipedia page and it'll give you the information you need.
freemind62 1 year ago 8
@freemind62 Yes FM62...It's Pascal's wager being re-used again & again....gotta love it !!!
It is still being used like all the rest of the long-dead, but recycled "questions for EVILutionists". Gotta wonder if the people reusing these questions are seriously asking a question or just trying to bog-down the discussion to avoid the inevitable. Oh well, better post a link explaining why there are still apes, why evo. cannot explain gravity on & on. ......sigh....
orangemod 6 months ago
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gregrutz 6 months ago
@stinkyflesh
"Now if a christian is wrong... What has he wasted? Absolutly nothing...he will end up in the ground like his evolutionistic brother..."
And, of course, if the christian is wrong about all other religions, he might just as well burn in any other hell in the history of religion - the muslim hell, Tartaros, Mictlan or naraka, etc.
Also, you would've spent the only life you have chasing phantasms and invisible people that were nowhere to be found.
anglicantian 11 months ago
@stinkyflesh "if it is true the purpose of humanity would be to be born, live, and die." As to Genesis 1:28, where the purpose of humanity is to "Be fruitful and increase in number"?
"what if your wrong" If God is as fickle and unjust to base eternal punishment solely on the position of one "belief", then Hell would be Paradise.
"What has he wasted? Absolutly nothing." Unless you are wrong on the entity. Then you go to Hell while the one who went with the evidence gets to Heaven.
:P
onijester56 10 months ago
@stinkyflesh I have not seen any proof for the existence of god, you suggest I would lead a very dishonest life, just to save my skin? Would'nt god see that I did not truly believe and send me to hell anyway? You just want me to conform, out of a fear of hell. A christian has condemned people on the basis of an old stuffy book, has wasted time and money on going to church, has told lies to his children, has not used his mind correctly.
parzoek 10 months ago
@stinkyflesh Atheists live a ful life.. Christians dont... they live a god fearing life and question everything u do whether its right or wrong.. The concept of hell as a whole makes no sense.. Also you are forgetting other religions in this world apart from christians.. What is our purpose it life if we are atheists.. make a better future for man kind.. what is the Purpose of Christians in particular ? To fear god and live with GOD for infinite time after u die.. no thanks...
Vikramthewhite 9 months ago
well sure its just that we dont see enoght evednce in the bible to do this and this argument be uesd for any reliogen say islam is completly true then shouldn't you worship allah so you dont have to suffer in the desert for the rest of your life
i dont think that either you or i want to become muslum becaues of the threat of there hell becaues we dont belive in it and social pressure or a empty warning can not change your true belifes and even if we acted that way and if the god was real
supperanter5000 7 months ago
@stinkyflesh
"Now if a christian is wrong... What has he wasted? Absolutly nothing.."
In that case, he then just wasted the only infinitely precious life he got, worshiping a fantasy,
If Christians are right about god, that still renders evolution most plausible by any objective standard regardless of the existence of any god
I am sure any that any Just, knowing, loving and wise god would appreciate that intellectual honesty, cause if god did not, he would not be Wise nor Just nor loving.
mindwis3 7 months ago
@stinkyflesh You say there is nothing to risk with believing the bible is true. Well the bible teaches that we will be here for only a short time. With this type of mentality we will use up our natural resources, not try and discover new types of fuel and basically leave a planet ruined for our childrens children to clean up. So yes there are very horrible consequences to deal with if you are wrong, just not in your life time......
sariglenn 6 months ago
@stinkyflesh Most scientists accept God, all of them accept evolution.
gregrutz 6 months ago
@stinkyflesh And what happens if we're both wrong? What happens if we die and go meet big blue six-armed Vishnu? Who do you think he'll be kinder on, someone who worshiped a false god, or someone who remained neutral on the issue?
Beyondisme 6 months ago
7:17 funny how they don't both to read the next sentence where Darwin explains the transitional forms. This is a writing technique called bridging, where you transition to a next point with an ambiguous question or statement. But you know, I'm sure Christians would NEVER bare false witness by quote mining . . .
Beyondisme 6 months ago
@stinkyflesh Unless the Christian finds out in the afterlife he's been following the wrong religion and the wrong god all along... oops. Pascal's Wager is self-serving nonsense.
Akira625 5 months ago
@stinkyflesh hold on besides useing Pascal's Wager your trying to say becouse we evolved that we as humans have no value?your so wrong.we as people have done many great things the only thing i hate us humans doing is when we harm a dog or house cat that depends on us for safety or that wer littering and dumping garbage.if we try to live a good life try not to kill clean our naberhood and try to respect our earth thats just some of the things that put meaning to our life ...
saur2244 1 day ago
@stinkyflesh but if we went with your bit no mater what we do theres no meaning to human kind i dont think so.what do think of that
saur2244 1 day ago
Just give the poof and the money will be yours. You have not given an acceptable reason for not providing the proof.
gbasp10 1 year ago
Respond to this video... quit tiptoeing around buddy there are like 3 different evolution getdowns and 1 is abiogensis however its spelled.ihate when evolutionists use that argument when you know it all falls under evolution yet you know theres big holes in the format so u weasel ur way to changed the sub abiogensis is a form of evolution yet you can poke holes in it so u weasel ur way
12jahwarrior 1 year ago
Both sides are not correct. Evolution still has many holes in it. Micro-evolution makes sense, but macro-evolution has neither been proven or explained. At the same time Christianity is taking a horrible look at the situation. Christians are too closed-minded. Plus their religion is parodied on sun worship. There is a supreme being and a creator. How can there be intelligent design without an intelligent designer?? Scientist cannot seem to answer this question. God is real. Christians are dumb
nstoner111 1 year ago
@nstoner111 All intelligent design as put forward are nothing but arguments from ignorance.
What is basicly does is this "this doesnt look like it could have evolved because all the parts seem to depend on each other, therefore it did not evolve and X did it"
When something is complex you ask "how did this happen", you dont just give up and declare it "unresolvable" - that´s the path to stagnation. In any case, all proposed IC systems have been found to have evolutionary pathways.
Korkzor 1 year ago
@Korkzor When you learn how to make an argument and actually write a complete sentence that makes sense, then maybe I would listen to you. FAIL
nstoner111 1 year ago
@nstoner111 what do you mean that Macro-evolution "hasn't been been proven or explained?" There is actually no real difference between macro-evolution and micro-evolution. It is perfectly logical to think that many small changes in genes will eventually make a new species.
Compare micro evolution to eroding a grain of sand from a rock, and compare macro evolution to changing the rocks shape. If you keep eroding grains of sand from the rock, after a while you dramatically change the rock's shape.
Ant42Lee 1 year ago
My God made the earth and all on
It did not come from some therory that has not been proven it makes me sad to see the people made in my Gods likenes make him look small but he is not small he is bigger than any thing
acespy5000 1 year ago
Not only do you have to much free time, This attempt at a debunk was weak.
Barrelquest 1 year ago
@Barrelquest As is your grasp on reality.
jib1000 1 year ago
Creationists make me ashmed to admit that they're human.
UnderlordZ 1 year ago
4:48 That's how Christianity is still alive. They take hold of young minds and brainwash them when they cannot think for themselves. Pathetic.
BtheAtheist 1 year ago
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The stupid, it burns us!
alexwolff1990 1 year ago
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Wrong!!!!..u have now made useless mutations..that dont function..Evolution is not happening they way we think it is..study the complexity of the flagellum...!!!!!...that never could have evolved !!!..never without dying!!..it needs all of its parts at once to live
5tonyvvvv 1 year ago
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It's important to understand that there is a big difference between science and belief systems. Scientific laws and theories are tools used to solve problems. Religions are things you believe in. Evolution is NOT something you believe in. It is a tool used to solve problems... like your hammer. You don't believe in your hammer, you use it to solve problems.
blaisingm 1 year ago
Hahah scientific minority? Does she mean 99.8% of all scientists? That minority?
censurabass 1 year ago
@censurabass She probably is referring to the "science faculty" at Bible Baptist University or a Missouri Synod Lutheran Seminary.
jknengr796 1 year ago
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VideoAudioDisco09 1 year ago
If there were any evidence for creation, you can bet a creationist would have found something by now. The scientists are right.
Ozzyman200 1 year ago
i wish they would put both view on tv....just once maybe?
akilae0 1 year ago
wow, i wish i had the expertise, programs and shear patience to produce things such as this.
Strikesnake1994 1 year ago
@Strikesnake1994 While I don't know about your expertise or patience. I just use plain old MS movie maker. Not ideal for compex videos, but more than enough to do ones like this. I suggest you give it a try one day. I REALLY need to make more videos, just out of the habit really, but it's not too hard. I mean I do it :)
freemind62 1 year ago
Portuguese navigator and explorer, the first European to cross the Pacific Ocean
The church says the earth is flat, but I know that it is round, for I have seen the shadow on the moon, and I have more faith in a shadow than in the church.
-- Ferdinand Magellan,
SuperSharko 1 year ago
jim03o :And what are your credentials ? Did you finish high school at least ?
lizazoon 1 year ago
That scene with the kids and the anti-science propaganda literally made my stomach churn.
Gilfroyd 2 years ago
Wow. Nice Darwin quote mining on their part. If they included the rest of the passage it would have destroyed they're argument. This sort of stupidity should be criminal.
maggotballs 2 years ago 3
Good video. But God is most definitely real and Evolution is most definitely not. If you doubt it, read 'the attempted murder of God' - A critical book at a critical time, it reveals the secrets of science that comprehensively demolish the theory of Evolution and provides scientific proof for God - a scientific certainty kept hidden from the world that in this critical time in history can now be revealed.
byScrooby 2 years ago
@byScrooby Yeah, okay. As if there's a conspiracy to further the agenda of evolution. Perhaps you should read a book about new scientific theories. There's a lot of scrutiny no matter what the theory is. The reason evolution stands is that no empirical data suggests that it's wrong.
TheSeventhSon 2 years ago 2
@byScrooby Hmmm... Read "a" (one) book and get all the answers... OR get a real education that requires many books and many hours of researching so you don't get the OPINION of some idiot. I'll take a real education everytime...
Parabol0086 1 year ago
Kent Hovind :The trial concluded on November 1 with the defense deciding not to present a case.[150] After closing arguments were presented on November 2, the jury deliberated three hours before finding the Hovinds guilty on all counts, 58 for Hovind and 44 for his wife. On January 19, 2007 Hovind was sentenced to ten years in prison and ordered to pay the federal government restitution of over $600,000. After his prison term finishes he will serve another three years of probation.
Tukiiis 2 years ago
this is like a video on the positive effects of marijuana where the only people talking are the potheads. maybe they should have asked some evolutionists about their views on the matter. the fact that they didn't completely ruins the validity of this argument
deadmoron1 2 years ago 2
at 0:55 shes technically correct, we aren't hearing a scientifically biased veiw, we are hearing a religiosly biased review.
deadmoron1 2 years ago
Hahah I like the last comment. "Creationists get Darwin and Jesus mixed up"
verxintRising 2 years ago
oh no dont trust the godless scientist but trust kent hoving without a dought lol usauk christian bullshit
patrickledford420 2 years ago 3
kent hovind is a scientist?
alexyguillermoreyes 2 years ago 7
@alexyguillermoreyes kent hovind is a scientist? -- lol only in his dreams!
AthenaSchroedinger 6 months ago
The saddest thing about creationists is how many children get turned off by science. America is great because of it's science.
Kent Hovind is in prison for fraud.
aBRUSHforCONFUCIUS 2 years ago 3
He is in prison for something he didnt do, 501c3 is a minsitry duhh thats how government put people in jail for taxes when the 16th amendment wasnt really ratified lol
RideWitChrist 2 years ago
I thought it was the 14th? lol.. maybe I was wrong. :P
PCGamerProDude 2 years ago
Yes, he didn't pay his taxes !
gregrutz 2 years ago
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I find it hilarious that from my observations 95% of youtubers are Atheists. And give other Atheists/Evolutionist videos 5 Star ratings while giving creationist videos 1 star ratings. Even if the creationist video has tons of good points nope atheists/evolutionist HAVE to give it 1 star ratings. So since to me 95% of youtubers are atheists this explains the huge bias 5 star athiest videos and the 1 star creationist videos.
shizza82 2 years ago
95% ? your observations are clearly very limited. I suggest you take another look.
Proudtobeacommie 2 years ago 14
"creationist video has tons of good points"
Isn't that a contradiction in terms?? Maybe you mean the points like when Hovind says dinosaurs use to be fire breathing dragons. Or how about the one that plants are not really alive because they don't bleed.
foxlake02 2 years ago
@shizza82
Did you ever think youtubers were educated or scientists?
Or creationists are incorrect?
Watch this video.
gregrutz 2 years ago
what about the possibility that those creationist videos have sub par points that prove nothing. Did you do some sort of census of Youtube or something, how can you make this claim? simply because the creationist videos are voted low? I have honostly yet to see one creationist video with any "good points" and especially not "tons of great points".
AMP3G 2 years ago 3
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You can't prove evolution in a lab because the second you do so the second you just proved intelligent design!
hat655 2 years ago
Our discovery put an end to a debate as old as the human species: Does life have some magical, mystical essence, or is it, like any chemical reaction carried out in a science class, the product of normal physical and chemical processes? Is there something divine at the heart of a cell that brings it to life? The double helix answered that question with a definitive No. James D. Watson
foxlake02 2 years ago
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So according to you we're all just a bunch of chemical reactions?!?
Then why would you care what some other chemical reaction had to say?
proverbsoneseven 2 years ago
I was commenting on hat655's comment. It didn't make much sense to me. As far as the chemical reactions, how does that take away from the sanctity of man?
foxlake02 2 years ago
Actually for all practical purposes we ARE just a set of chemical and physical reactions! ALL it is that you do is a series of behavioural responses you learned as you were devloping. A simple neuron will produce an action potential (AP), in a resonise to a stimulus. Connect a few together and they will produce a set of APs that is DIFFERENT for every stimuli. These sets of APs are learned. After a while, any stimulus they encounter will automatically produce a sertain set of APs.
Spetsop 2 years ago
@foxlake02
I'm certainly an advocate of science, evolution, and the study of abiogenesis. But I insist...please elaborate on how the double helix answered or proved life is a chemical reaction? To this date, life and its orgins are a immensley complex and difficult subject to even study. How do you correlate Waton's discovery to life's origins?
cagefite007 2 years ago
I did not correlate Waton's discovery to life's origins. I simply meant that nothing in the study of life proves anyone's perception of God as the creation of life. It seems like an accurate statement to say that nothing divine has been found in the heart of the cell. Can you say it has?
foxlake02 2 years ago 2
@foxlake02
I disagree.
The study of life sciences in all fields from abiogenesis to evolutionary biology support design.
Not in the same way traditional religious folk use a common gaps argument, but design can be rationalized with the data we have currently logically and statistically.
cagefite007 2 years ago
cagefite007
Most biologists would disagree with that statement. What evidence are you sighting? I have seen none in the scientific literature.
foxlake02 2 years ago
We have a Bio-Geneticist by the Name of Laurence Tisdall who is making this theory Flawed. I believe in MICRO-Evolution which is TOTALLY different from Macro, well sorta I believe in the Variation's of Kinds of animals, like short and tall, and different hair etc.. but yeah. Science is Science, it isn't about Morals or origins. Evolution isn't Science, it uses Science to support its theory, but it still explains origins, which is a RELIGION. Anything that explains origins = RELIGION. Sorry.
PCGamerProDude 2 years ago
@PCGamerProDude
"We have a Bio-Geneticist by the Name of Laurence Tisdall who is making this theory Flawed."
Let me know when a peer-reviewed journal is published making evolutionary theory flawed.
If you believe in micro, you should believe in macro. Speciation occurs in a human lifetime.
Why should origins be excluded from science; they can be studied using the scientific method. Orgins is a huge part of science.
cagefite007 2 years ago
Evolution is science, however psuedo intellectuality is not actual intelligence. I assume your agree with Kent Hovind and his ilk. Macro-evolution has been witnessed and proven in the fossil record. Also micro evolution leads to macro evolution. Finally evolution is NOT a religion, requires no faith, there is evidence. Please argue FOR your god and NOT against everything else.
acledmaiden 2 years ago 2
@acledmaiden the fossil record? it proves nothing lol there is no proof for evolution. if we evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys? it takes more faith to be an evolutionist than creationist. Look at what you believe, you believe we all came from a rock! You believe that some how nothing exploded and somehow made everything... but each to his own
jim03o 1 year ago
I like how you've copypasta'd the five most commonly refuted and most fallacious creationist arguments as if they hadn't been invalid for over a hundred years.
Fossil record shows transitional forms. You'll claim there aren't any, I'll refer you to google.
We didn't evolve form monkeys, we evolved from apes, and that is why we are still apes.
Evolution doesn't require faith, we have evidence.
We claim to come from our parents, you claim we came from dust.
Sorry, man. Reality disagrees with you.
rkyeun 1 year ago
@jim03o Shit! You must be a troll...
Parabol0086 1 year ago
So glad you accept M. Evolution.
gregrutz 2 years ago
@PCGamerProDude Genes are genes. If you accept the fact that genes mutate over time, you must accept that macro evolution can occur. Otherwise, you're a moron.
TheSeventhSon 2 years ago 4
No it don't macroevolution don't exist. There's only evolution no micro or macro.
G11EM2 1 year ago
"Scientific minority"?
Why doesn't it occur to these people that if they have to defend something by repeatedly lying, it might not be worth defending?
EyeLean5280 2 years ago 26
17 Those others do not have pure motives as they preach about Christ. They preach with selfish ambition, not sincerely, intending to make my chains more painful to me. 18 But that doesnt matter. Whether their motives are false or genuine, the message about Christ is being preached either way, so I rejoice. And I will continue to rejoice. Philippians 1:17-18
SpiritLedOne 2 years ago
Genesis 1:11-13
God makes plants on the third day.
Genesis 1:14-20
God makes the sun, moon, and stars on the fourth day.
Sadly, that's a bit backwards from how we know it happened. Carbon and iron can only be created in the heart of a sun. The stars came before the earth, and the Sun came before the Earth, and some very long time after that plants were formed.
Tear that page out of your Bible so the book won't be a lie, before you quote any other part of it at us.
rkyeun 1 year ago
Genesis 1:11-13
"God makes plants on the third day.
Genesis 1:14-20
God makes the sun, moon, and stars on the fourth day." ONE NIGHT!!!!! Plants survive every night, that's your proof that the Bible is wrong?? Have any of you watched a special on evolution and how they say life evolved? WELL, F.Y.I. it includes Abiogenesis. Cosmology is not included (most of the time) but has been at times. All this video is trying to do is narrow the definition to only include speciation (proof?).
vbirdieb 1 year ago
Plants don't survive every night without the element of carbon having been formed yet because there were no stars.
rkyeun 1 year ago
Your arguing over ONE NIGHT???? And your the one who used Bible verses. God is life, He provided the plants what they nedded until He made the sun. He's all powerful, can't be all that hard.
vbirdieb 1 year ago
Okay, you caught me. The bible verses are wrong. I shouldn't have used them.
rkyeun 1 year ago
No, your wrong and you shouldn't have used the Bible. God is ALMIGHTY and to use His book to disprove creation, bad ideal. Your trying to make God fictional by using the Bible, that's your mistake. I mean really, a God isn't a true God if He's not all powerful. He can make it happen anyway He wants. Science, only discovers what God leaves behind. Not necessarily in the correct order, but in the order HE puts it in. Order out of chaos?? Kinda sounds like the Big bang theory.? lol
vbirdieb 1 year ago
Oh don't be silly. I was wrong because I tried to use the Bible, which is already wrong about everything. It's obvious that Thor created the universe, not God. God doesn't even HAVE a magic hammer, so he couldn't have done it.
rkyeun 1 year ago
Keep laughing sinner, you won't be laughing when your standing before God on judgement day. Bye
vbirdieb 1 year ago
Sure I will. Thor's a cool guy. We'll laugh and share a hearty flargon of mead.
rkyeun 1 year ago
@vbirdieb Yeah but would an all poweful God allow all the suffering in the word.
Would an all loving God all the inqusition and the crusades
badpanda84 1 year ago
@badpanda84 Would a judge let a murderer go free? Would a good parent let their child get away with doing wrong? It doesn't seem wrong to the child? All the suffering in the world was caused by our ancestor's sin which we can't escape except through Jesus.
vbirdieb 1 year ago
@vbirdieb well according to chirstainity the answer is yes. Just expect Jesus and you walk away free
badpanda84 1 year ago
@vbirdieb
Would that same judge sentense great grand children of that murderer just because their great grandparent did the wrong? Would the parents have to punish ALL their children for whatever their brother/sister did? And what kind of commandments are those? Half of them don't even make sense, while the rest are common sense! And there are exceptions to every rule... even to those that "God" set... especially if they are in favor of that "God"!
Spetsop 1 year ago
@vbirdieb so rethorical speaking that good parent you speak of should beat his kid endlessly if he did the slightest thing wrong? good parentship...
wikuk 1 year ago
@vbirdieb You're funny. You have no idea how much we know about Evolution because you haven't had a real education (that starts at a respectful University). I am quite a long way into my BcSc (Evo Bio) and for anyone to argue against you is frustrating to see, as man-hours go to waste. So many things you think you know but you really know nothing. Keep posting, it is a good laugh.
Parabol0086 1 year ago
Pathetic debunked.I believe it gave more credence to Creationism.
frankielee77 2 years ago
Yes, creationist are so wrong, it should be easy to show how stupid they are.
gregrutz 2 years ago
thinking that that all people believe in the bible and the god that is protayed in the bible is the most stupidest agrument to ever exsist just because the bible is not totally correct that doesnt mean that other gods are not flawless to claims that are against the bible for all those people that think there so amazing because they beat the bible get over yourself the bible isnt the only portrayl of god and your claims mean nothing if you claim the bible in your theory
6nich 2 years ago
Great last point.
Fervent theists seem to think we view science as they view religion: infallible.
They also are stuck in the mindset that since one thing that contradicts God makes him infallible and therefore impossible, one thing that contradicts science has the same effect.
Soon, for the first time in History, a religion will be toppled over - not because it was replaced by another religion - but because logic and rational thinking replaced it. These are interesting times! :-)
thepoet82 2 years ago
what is the name of this woman? i want to do some research on her
Piersmaru 2 years ago
Janet Folger.
"The best part of Waking up, is Folgers in your Cup"
Sorry
freemind62 2 years ago
@freemind62:
Double U *3(dot)f2a(dot)org
And, sit for this, she's married now, Mrs. Janet Porter, so she's unavailable, perhaps.
sol3a1 1 year ago
I love there song "you cant get by the evidence", isn't that what they are doing getting around the evidence.
fireflygirl246 2 years ago
semantics
rddaos 2 years ago
For a man who doesn't accept evolution, Ken Ham does rather spookily resemble an ape.
meekychuppet 2 years ago 4
This documentary really made me mad. I wanted to argue through the computer screen! But I couldn't. They established afoundation for the argument (weakly) and I wanted to argue it....Very frustrating.
bttsstewart 2 years ago
I love it.. "the biased view of a scientific minority".. how about vs "the biased view of an unscientific majority"?
bongojohnuk 2 years ago 3
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Lol. Go on thinking u came from a monkey i dont mind.
You can go ahead and argue the ageless wisom all you want, but could make your own video? you just inserted comments in someone elses. Abiogenesis is a different science lol i like that one. Clever way to avoid answering the fact that you cant make life from nothing. The fact we alledgedly evolved from apes, but apes are still around, and no known evolution has taken place in recorded history is a testemant to your faith..blind faith.
Symbolc0729 2 years ago
humans did not evolve from apes we eveolved from a commen ansester
applefrog111 2 years ago
Really? Ok. So where is this alledged ancestor to the apes.
Evolution makes some pretty big assumptions. We know civilized mankind has been around way before we have thought. There is no poof of this common ancestor. Unless your referring to lucy which is just a bunch of mix matched bones of an obvious ape. you might have some argument, but house cats and lions look alike too which evolved to what? What did a dodo bird evolve from or to? Dinasours evolved into birds lol? Prolly not.
Symbolc0729 2 years ago
Abiogenesis is the field of study concerned with how self-replicating systems came into being through chemical processes.
we are apes, and we didn't evolve from the apes that are living today we had a common ancestor.
look up the new species of bacteria that have emerged in the past decade. and don't say "well they are still bacteria" that is like saying "well its still a mammal" bacteria is a very broad term but we have seen both new genus and species arise from evolution
ShikaNinja 2 years ago 2
really do you know nothing of evolution we didnt come from apes or monkeys or chimps. evolution says we are related and came from the same ancestor. there is only 4% difference in chimp and human dna that is fact.
Nibielari 2 years ago
1.2% difference in chimp and human DNA, if you don't count the repeats
gregrutz 2 years ago
It was hard enough watching this the first time, but I'll bare with it to see some intelligent rebuttal.
CommonSensation 2 years ago 2
Their is absolutely NO evidence for divine creation. god damb it I hate religion. Good video by the way, keep up the debunking.
GoodDaySquire 2 years ago
This video is very stupid.
sfpkent 2 years ago
Oh my goodness...creationist propaganda. Again. It sucks they prey on the young. Thx again for doing a debunking of these videos :)
InFromTheVoid 2 years ago
Thank goodness you made these videos. I remember watching the originals in the past thinkg WTF???
InFromTheVoid 2 years ago 2
that bit with the children is absolubtly disgusting and the allowance for these people to teach children should be banned, since they arent of any regignised form of factual education, these kids will grow up finding it hard to let go of their imaginary friend when they could of had a go at something within science, no wonder why theirs less and less scientists, if these idiots arent stopped, we'll end up back in the dark ages. cheers
01101100d 2 years ago
This is absolutely hilarious. The program starts with the lady in the courtroom assuring us that we are about to hear an "unbiased view"...then subjects the viewer to a stream of creationist propaganda, without even attempting to represent the views of 95% of the global scientific community!
And as for the disgusting indoctrination of children at 4:42 ...well, that just makes me sick.
garethac81 2 years ago 4
haha, crazy people ... ughhh (sigh) eventually the majority will come to their senses and we won't have even hear about this debate anymore. haha Darwin = Jesus, ahhahaha. That's awesome. Nice video
mylesfalconer 2 years ago
many realms of life after death. move on in an energy state. In this after life there are many levels enlightenment, those who have found peace and love and are open to other realms od possibilty move up in statues. Its very simple. There is in a sence life aftrer death but one that knows no time, time doesent exsist there. Time is am illusion created by the enlightened ones who created the unviverse as a way to go from pure enlightenment source to to a physical form to know a diffent realm.
davesevaw 2 years ago
if the earth is only 6500 years old, then noah's arc was built 4327 years ago. Using exponential functions theres no way you can go from 2 people to 6.8 billion. How do creationists deny carbon dating? Even the pope acknowledges creationism is bs.
illacabrerabmr 2 years ago 4
Freemind i think you need to listen and not just hear what the guy said.
2:29
Saibot00 2 years ago
GOD IS DEATH!
DenizliCalcio 2 years ago
wrong.
Saibot00 2 years ago
The woman in the video fails from the word go. EVEN IF the Bible was 100% accurate and agreed totally with science, it would still not be a science book. Science explains HOW things happen. It gives methods, processes etc. The Bible does not say how God created the world and how he continues to work to this day.
tommyk77 2 years ago 3
Is there a Christian out there who can read? If so, give me a reason why evolution can`t be true. One fact that debunks evolution. Good luck.
theillestgreek 2 years ago
It`s been a minute now. Guess you can`t then.
theillestgreek 2 years ago
I have no facts that debunk evolution, but I have a fact that proves the reality of Jesus Christ. Its called the Shroud of Turin. Please research this artifact (its the most studied in history, so you should be able to find good scientific journals on it) and then explain to me with "one fact" that debunks Jesus Christ. Remember, science textbooks will all be different in 50 years, but the message of Jesus Christ is timeless, unchanging, eternal.
God bless!
vesiu5 2 years ago
Science is self correcting. Religion stays put because it is dogmatic, not because it is correct.
Plus, the word of Christ is mainly to do with ethics and has nothing to do with science at all.
tommyk77 2 years ago
Hi tommyk77. Science is not "self-correcting" because it needs PEOPLE to make mistakes first, just like religion. Science does not make the mistake. Men APPLYING the science do. For example, just as the Inquisition cannot be found in the teachings of Jesus Christ, reason dictates that PEOPLE MAKE MISTAKES, not the Laws that are not properly understood yet. You fail to realize that religion learns just like science. The only difference is that with FAITH the end justifies the means.
vesiu5 2 years ago
The people make up the science. The process of gaining knowledge about our world is self-correcting in that the people who are a part of it make corrections.
The Bible does have verses that allow for inquisitions. It's a highly flawed book. Where do you think people got the idea from in the first place.
Science achieves more than faith. Plus, it doesn't lead to wars and close-mindedness
tommyk77 2 years ago 3
Science changes as newer, better, more accurate data is obtained. Religion is static. No matter how stupid it is proven to be, it can't change.
rddaos 2 years ago
When something keep changing, can you believe the something??
Imagine if your loved one keep changing sex partner, can you believe your love one?
sfpkent 2 years ago
The only thing intelligent people can do is use the most current, best data. When better data is obtained, you don't act like a stupid muslim and ignore it, you have to actually update your theories.
rddaos 2 years ago
Which mean the current theories are not actually 100% correct? So, so question is why should I believe in something is not 100% correct?
If a theory keep chaning, then when will the theory 100% correct so that I can believe?
sfpkent 2 years ago
No. It means current scientific theories are based on the most current, most accurate data available, while religion is based on ignorance and false data. Theories don't "keep chaning", dummy. They change IF better data is discovered that warrants updating them. And people don't "believe 100%" in a theory, they simply recognize that a scientific theory is the most likely and best explanation for some observed phenomena.
rddaos 2 years ago
Do you believe in the theory of gravity? Even though it has changed? lol. stupid question.
rddaos 2 years ago
Do you believe in the Theory of gravity? How about Germ Theory? Atomic Theory? Relativity?
No Theory will EVER be 100% "correct". A theory is a model that explains observations. Facts. If, indeed, a 3-legged Aardvark is responsible for gravitation, when evidence sheds light on this fact... The Aardvark Theory will come forth. But not until there's evidence. Real evidence.
THAT... is the difference between science and mythology.
Exmech2 2 years ago
vesiu5.
Science moves on. Religion holds on.
theillestgreek 2 years ago 4
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vesiu5 2 years ago