I thought the guy who was talking about his opposition to gay marriage would get smashed with a ceiling lamp. And thanks how we legalize gay marriage kids, kill all of those opposed to it because we all know they're too dumb to understand :D
Really, I thought the satire of this video would be obvious! 9 in 10 support gay folk, and several of their clips are parody of homophobic opinions and attitudes.
But really "Gay marriage threatens MY marriage..." "Dude! I just paid the strippers to go down on each other!" makes it perfectly obvious where this video stands on the issue.
I'm glad that our only two options are gay marriage or debauchery/adultery. Also, I'm glad that no one understood that last line "homosexuality is just for entertainment," because it made zero sense.
Its um for a comedy contest people , really calm the fuck down and enjoy it , yeah gay marriage is fine but this video doesn't say otherwise because well its a damn joke ... seriously
The main joke of the video is that their fine with lesbians but not gay men its just to show how hypocritical people are of gay marraige and homosexuality as a whole. The other joke in there is that he's talking about how its bad for his marraige and yet he's at a strip club.
For those of you who have no brain cells or sense of irony :)
@shakka219 also, the whole 'if gay marriage threatens straight marriage' then most men won't be married to women, ergo, they'll be stuck either being celibate, or going after hookers.
I think this video is horrible and the people who made it should be punished in a cruel and unusual way. You shouldnt discriminate people based on their religion! Muslim, Christian, Buddhist: everyone should be allowed to... Oh wait, wrong video. Never mind.
First off! This is the most ignorant piece of garbage I have ever seen! I feel sorry for people like the ones in this video. I happen to be a GAY MAN and very proud. So anyone out there whos sippin on their hater-aid just know that this trash inspired me to get active and go Google things about Prop8. Wow! It sure feels nice to know I'm secure enough with myself to not let disappointing individuals like the ones who contribute to filth like this effect my life or anything about me.
This applies to Males and Females alike because strippers have No! Business being married men .GAY People everywhere know each and everyone of yous are FABULOUS with or with out this. #smiles
WFT?! That man and what he represents makes me sick...How is your marriage gonna crumble if gay marriage is legalized? Is your wife an in the closet lesbian or something? AND WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING AT A STRIP BAR WHEN YOUR MARRIED? Gay people gettin' married has NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR OWN FUCKEN MARRIAGE!
If anyone is struggling with the sin and disease of homosexuality, please, seek medical and psychological attention immediately. Seek Christ while He may be found. Christ offer everyone forgiveness and salvation.
@mrchiefofsinners People like you make me sick. Single-minded, and fucking arrogant. Shove the "Christ can save you" bullshit up your nose and learn to accept.
Justin Bieber's penis is the size of the dislike bar. In Soviet Russia, the ground falls on you. Chuck Norris is somehow related to this incident. Rebecca Black sucks. Thumbs up if *insert obvious bullshit here*. My parents thought I was watching porn. 310 views and thousands of likes!? press 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 or 9 and thumbs up. I hate ads and I'm thankful that porn doesn't have them. I pee in the side of the bowl to make less noise!
am I wrong in assuming this ad was trying to be Ironic and make fun of people who are against gay marriage? I maybe wrong but thats what I got, maybe its beacuse I think its stupid to be against it, so I saw it that way........
@Baileycake92 actually reading the comments is as funny as the video itself.
i showed it some gay friends of mine an they doubled up laughing, i'm from austria maybe it's not only a brit sense of ironic homour but a european in general???
@Foreverluv21000 Srsly hun, it was in SARCASM. The person making it was saying about how absolutely stupid it is for these people to go around saying that when this is their entertainment. Not only tat, he was saying "My wife and I" He's married at a strip bar. And Gay marriage is desecrating the bond you have? It's all in complete satirical irony. I AGREE with this commercial because of what it points out. A married guy placing the blame on gays and then watching two girls get it on. IRONY
If it weren't for gays and lesbians who would they get to prevent everyone else from getting book deals, record contracts and acting gigs? No one. People would succeed on merit rather that harrassment, exploitation and all around evil.
@justlooking1902 Only the bigoted idiots in my country. My oldest brother is gay, and has been married just recently. And he and his husband are wonderful for eachother, emotional support and so on. My sister is lesbian and is currently engaged, and are also wonderful together. Unfortunatly, those who only think homosexuality is sex between those of the same gender, have the largest voices. There are those of us out here who don't see it that way. Love is Love, no matter age or gender.
@justlooking1902 no actually where i live thereare a lot of bi or gay people including me i am bi. and i think people should marry who they want to marry no matter the gender. i love a person for them not if they have a penis or a vagina
Sex is supposed to be a symbol of love and bond, straight or gay. There is NO stupid problem with anyone's bond if there is gay marriage. I'm a lesbian and where my girlfriend is, there is a law against it. At least I'm lucky enough to be able to have me and her get married here in my state if we ever do so.
If I were president I would allow gay marriage. I mean, what the fuck? I beat the shit out of people that talk shit about my friends for being gay, your gay? Who cares. Your just as normal as everyone else in the world. I totally support gay, lesbian, and straight love. You hate it and wanna talk shit? Fuck you, have a shitty day ;)
while yes this commercial does show hypocrisy thats not why you should vote yes or no on something. Its mudslinging which in my opinion is something that I consider highly dishonorable no matter whos trying to make the point. I'm fairly certain that a good portion of people who voted for prop 8 don't do this kind of thing. some do but not all and its not the people you're voting for its the proposition
okay so its okay for two girls to do it but not two guys? so guys are allowed to watch " sexy" stuff but girls cant? MOST GIRLS DUN LIEK WATCHING TWO GIRLS DOING IT PPL DX
ur retarded if gay or lesbian people want to fuckin get marrried then they should im not lesbian but its wrong to tell smeone that they cant be witht the one that that love so yeah fuck you whore....we r going to blow shit up.......so u better check ur self for u reck ur self.....
Clearly most people missed the glaringly obvious point to this video. If you think this is against gay marriage, kill yourself. You're too stupid to be using precious resources.
You are all stupid. This is an ad PROMOTING gay marriage. Oh, sorry. You probably don't know what promoting means. because you are stupid. its a joke. jeez...
FUCK YOU! You are a bitch whoever made this movie. You should be ashamed of yourself.Its not like people choose to be gay, "they are born that way"- the words of lady gaga! So stick that in your juice box and suck it bc my fucking uncle is gay you hoe!
Lol, people ARE OBLIVIOUS! This is clearly making fun of the sanctity between a man and a wife, its actually pro gay marriage. READING BETWEEN THE LINES PPL!
I'm straight and I got gay friends theirs nothing wrong with them. There still one of the guys it's not like there fucking u or ur hurl friend so chill.
@lizzychizzey34 lol. Mate, the point of the video is that it's hypocritical when people say men having sex with men is wrong, when these same people enjoy women on women sex. It's showing hypocrisy, how some people don't take everything into account, because they like one part of something, but not the other. It's a pro gay ad :) People are people, if you have a problem with someone else who isn't harming you, it's your problem :P. Try not to jump to conclusions, it just makes u look silly :)
I feel sorry for you ..... its a shame that your personal insecurities stop you from being happy with who you are to the point where you actually have to take the piss about the way others live their lives! I dont see why it should matter. if you dont like gays stay out of their way and carry on living it doesnt actually affect you unless you let it!
MARRIAGE FOR EVERYONE! being gay is something you're born with, like having blue or brown eyes. not something that can be helped. THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS is something promised to ALL americans. so why is it that "gay people" have to be less happy because society doesnt approve? fuck that.
@FutureTrophyWife96 Science can suck me off , im an arrogant jerk and im happy with what i believe , so if u can be born gay can we also argue that your genetics determine if ur into little children or animals ?
@timberlyntheterrible Homosexuality isn't something you're born with, it's a personal sexual PREFERENCE, as in, something preferred. It amounts to the difference between liking hamburgers and liking hotdogs- even though you prefer one, if you're starving, you'll eat. Look at the amount of sodomy in prison- are you telling me that 85% of criminals are gay? if so, then that's reason to worry about homosexuals, if not, then your argument is worthless. Think about it.
@DontFxckWithFairys So how do you explain people changing their orientation? There is no evidence whatsoever that homosexuality is anything more than preference, falling in the same category as BDSM, or other deviancies such as bestiality or pedophilia. In fact, there is no functional difference whatsoever. If you want to make gay marriage legal, what of BDSM slave contracts? Think about it for a while. The empirical evidence clearly shows that you aren't born homosexual.
@jack91x Well aren't you just so smart. People (specifically those that are closely affected by their peers) change their sexuality in acordance with their cultural beleifs and a number of other reasons. And as two intelligent beings debating as topic i would appreciate if you didnt slander my opinion as "outlandish" as I wont slander yours.
@Kitten4000 You presented your opinion as fact, and I presented the scientific evidence for my rebuttal. Your claims are completely incorrect, and are thus outlandish. Even the most basic knowledge or the presence of common sense would allow you to see that both your theory on hormones and on cultural sexual plasticity are absolutely false. Perhaps you should take my advice and either do some research so that you can qualify as an "intelligent being" or abstain from debating altogether.
Ugg.. why even try? You are making assumptions here based on opinion. No one gives a shit about your opinion, the only reason people liked this comment is because they feel for the gay community. Do a study on gays being born to be gay, and then i'll believe you. Until then, stop making these remarks that state bullshit facts and irrelevant information.
@simplesnip3z Why don't you do your research and look for the studies that have already been done? They are merely assumptions, but actual fact. His 'opinion' is scientifically supported.
@punisher1045 They say that it may be from genetics or from chemical imbalances within the brain. No one really knows why, but it's most likely not a choice for most gays.
So it's okay for women to 'go down on each other' for the pleasure of men but it is wrong for who ever wants to to do it away from your old, pervert eyes? What bullshit! What gay people do is none of your business!
PS. if your marriage falls apart, it won't be because of gay marriage but because your wife hates your homophobe, pervert ass! What a hypocrite!!!!!!!
@TheGenelara What homosexuals do in the privacy of their own homes has nothing to do with anyone else but marriage is between a man and a woman and not two people of the same sex.
Wrong. Marriage is between two people who love each other. It's wrong to deny civil rights to a segment of the population. It's called discrimination, and that's wrong. Gay marriage is the right thing to do.
@ScienceReasonBelief So what about NAMBLA? THey say they love each other, but they're a group of pedophiles. Should 'love" be a reason to change our laws? What about polygamy? If you love all 4 of your partners, should you be allowed to marry all of them? What about bestiality? Should a woman and her dog be allowed to marry? What about BDSM? Should we honor master/slave contracts as being legally binding? Marriage is a legal term, it has very little to do with love.
NAMBLA is a bunch of pedophiles, they're not gays. What they do is wrong because it involves children. Children cannot enter into a marriage contract. Likewise, animals cannot enter into marriage contracts.
(I can't believe you needed this explained to you!)
As far as polygamy and BDSM is concerned, as long as it involves consenting adults and there's no real abuse involved, why not?
@ScienceReasonBelief I never said that they shouldn't. If you read my posts, never once did I dispute the basic human right to safe, sane, consensual relationships. What I disputed was their argument. If you want a legal marriage, say "I want my right to the legal benefits of marriage". Don't start an argument over your preference, don't make an excuse for what you are or what you want. You weren't born gay, you weren't forced into it, you chose it, so stand by your decision. Understand?
I have ALWAYS said, when talking about this issue, that I want my right to the legal benegits of marriage. Why wouldn't I?
Some people think it matters WHY others are gay. And for them, explanations happen. And yes, some ARE born gay, thru exposure to hormones while in the mother's womb. Others believe it is purely pyschological. But the point is, no one, gay or hetero, choses their sexuality. So when you claim that people aren't born gay and that they chose it, you're wrong.
@ScienceReasonBelief All of the empirical evidence proves that it is a choice. In places like the middle east homosexuality is near ubiquitous, while in places where it's not socially acceptable, the rate drops off sharply. The same is true of microcosms such as prisons. It's entirely a conditioned psychosocial reflex. In ancient Sparta, nearly EVERYONE was gay, at least until marriage (why spartan brides shaved their heads). There is no evidence that homosexuality isn't a choice.
@jack91x Homosexuality is obviously a social choice. But there's always nature vs. nurture. Homosexuality is caused by an overload of the wrong hormone in ones body (ex. a male with too much estrogen), causing a person to be interested the same sex. It IS something that they are born with, and then social life comes into play to determine whether they actually pursue the same gender or not.
@Kitten4000 That would be a great theory, except for the fact that it's completely incorrect. First of all, studies on hormone levels do not show any correlation to sexual preference. Testosterone doesn't make women lesbians, it makes them aroused. Estrogen doesn't make men gay, it makes them fat and depressed. So please check your facts before using them to make an outlandish claim.
Sorry, but you couldn't be more wrong. The empirical evidence shows that sexuality is NOT a choice. I challenge you to present respected, mainstream references that prove your claim. While I can point to the Amer Med Assoc, the Amer Psych Assoc, and a host of other respected scientific bodies, all that affirm that homosexuality is NOT a choice... you have nothing except hardline christian "experts" who have not a shred of evidence.
@ScienceReasonBelief Perhaps if you were paying attention, you'd realize that you were talking to someone who A) Supports gay marriage, and B) I wouldn't be following a conservative christian opinion because my entire family is pagan. What I DO have is an extensive knowledge of neuroplasticity, cellular biology, and anthropsych. As for studies, try Dr. Clements Fry (Yale/DARPA); Cambridge University; Dean Byrd, PhD; Michelle Cretella, MD; etc, as well as common sense. Again, look at the prisons.
Clements Fry died in 1955 (!) and his work supplanted by more accurate, modern research.
Dean Byrd is a Mormon (notoriously anti-gay) & a well known proponent of conversion therapy (pray away the gay), -- condemned by all major med/psych orgs.
Michelle Cretella is a pediatrician, not a sexuality expert. She also believes in conversion therapy & is a advisor to the Nat'l Org for Marriage, also very anti-gay.
It's great that you support gay marrige, but your ref's suck.
@ScienceReasonBelief In every microcosm study, we see that sexuality is a fluid concept, owing more to social factors, neuroplasticity and cognitive restructuring than any physical trait. For example, in the modern day, obese women are not regarded as beautiful. But in the European Medieval Era, beautiful women are depicted as being quite overweight, the reason for this is entirely social- it's a class indicator. In societies where homosexuality is accepted, or indeed encouraged, it flourishes.
While sexuality IS fluid to some extent, you shouldn't assume that there is always a concious choice available to the individual. Some degree of concious choice is available to bisexuals, but not to men who rate a 6 on the Kinsey scale. That should be pretty obvious, even to you.
@ScienceReasonBelief When I was in the middle east, the locals had a saying that women were for children and boys for pleasure. In a society that encouraged it, it was nearly ubiquitous. Again, refer to the prison microcosm. Sodomy in prison is an accepted fact, and high levels of homosexuality are found in every prison, male or female. Are you saying that criminals are mostly born gay? If so, that's disturbing. But common sense dictates that it is a psychosocial reflex.
@ScienceReasonBelief So, logic dictates that one of two choices is correct- that the homosexuality in prisons is caused by social factors, meaning that I am right, and it is nurture, not nature, that determines sexuality; or they are born gay and didn't realize it until they were imprisoned, making the majority of our criminal population homosexuals. This means that either you accept that I'm right, or you try to claim that homosexuality is linked with crime and immorality. Pretty simple choice.
No, you are wrong. Homosexuality in prisons is a completely different issue, with different factors and different psychology. Apples and oranges, obviously.
Your pretty simple choice is: either present some verifiable scientific evidence (i.e., references from med/psych journals) that back up your silly claim that sexuality is a choice, or STFU. You haven't presented one SHRED of evidence.
@ScienceReasonBelief Every microcosm shows the exact same result. Among the Sambia tribe of Papua New Guinea, ALL males participate in homosexual acts as a rite of passage. Any microcosm can be extrapolated onto the macrocosm. If they are homosexual, either they chose to be (consciously or not) or they were born that way. You are choosing to ignore common sense because it refutes your opinion.
@ScienceReasonBelief Out of curiosity, I asked several members of southern Florida's LGBT community, one of the most prominent in the world, how they came into their sexuality. They tend to answer the same way: they had the occasional urge or tendency, and chose to explore it. This led them to associate their sexuality with the same gender, altering their brain structure in accordance with neuroplasticity. As they continued to reinforce these tendencies, the association became stronger.
@ScienceReasonBelief If you were to look at even your own sexual preferences you would find this to be true. The specific acts or anatomies that excite or arouse you have changed over the years, evolving and developing, sometimes leaving prior associations behind as new ones were reinforced. As an example, when I was in my early teens, I thought that lesbians were hot, but as I got older, my sexuality was reinforced by my sex with women, leading me to appreciate penetration more. Think about it.
@ScienceReasonBelief Now, because all of this happens subconsciously, we assume we have no control over it. However, as cognitive restructuring clearly shows, any effort at changing thought patterns will yield results. Try looking into the works of Norman Doidge, MD. I equate it to anger- people claim that they can't control their anger, yet it is a proven fact that you CHOOSE to become angry. Because people never really think about it, they don't understand their own brain functions.
@ScienceReasonBelief A study was done among juvenile offenders in Pennsylvania, at Northwestern Academy, which houses criminals of all crimes, from assault to rape to theft, even murder. It was found that what separated the sex offenders from others were all learned traits. Those who had been molested themselves, became molesters; those that came into contact with child pornography became pedophiles. The same was true for all of the criminals; their sexual preferences were learned.
@ScienceReasonBelief So far it would seem that psychology, anthropology, and biology (as well as common sense) all point to a common trend. Te reason that people have such a hard time thinking about this logically is that the issue is too emotionally charged- insecure heteros want a degree of separation from gays, and the "born that way" theory provides that; homosexuals who experience negative social effects want a reason and a shield, and it provides that too. But logically, it makes no sense.
@ScienceReasonBelief Perhaps if you were to accept that all sexuality is natural, not because you're born with a set of preferences, but because you naturally acquire them as you grow, it'd be easier for you. This also explains people who decide quite late in life that they prefer the same gender. They may have lived for 50 years happily hetero, and then try homosexuality and switch. Hell, that's half the ads on Craigslist. The "born that way" idea doesn't stand up to any scrutiny whatsoever.
@ScienceReasonBelief If it makes it easier for you, think of it like pizza. Someone who has never had pizza will never think about it, let alone crave it. But let's say you try pizza, decide that you like it. Your brain forms a connection between pizza and the satisfied need. The next time you feel that need, you may think of pizza, and the more you eat pizza, the more likely you will associate it. You weren't born liking pizza, or even knowing what it was. Now replace "pizza" with "penis".
I don't have time to read all your crap. Here's the thing....
Millions of gays around the world know that they didn't choose to be gay. You obviously have some personal defect within if you cannot accept the testimony of all these people for who sexuality is not a choice, esp when they tell you it's not. Disbelieve these millions of people if you wish, but you're still wrong.
For a guy who's supposedly hetero, you care far too much about this. Get a life.
@ScienceReasonBelief If you didn't want to be proven wrong, you shouldn't have tried to refute the logic of someone more intelligent than yourself. the subject does not matter to me; the act of delivering fact, truth, and logic to people such as yourself who live in a fantasy world of their own ignorance. YOU are the one who asked for my evidence; YOU are the one who chose to ignore it. Facts are facts. Face them or GTFO.
@ScienceReasonBelief You can deny it all you want. And please don't refer to me as "kid". I am not a child. Though your propensity to ignore facts that don't support your world view is awfully reminiscent of a preadolescent tantrum. So unless you have something more constructive than outright denial of proven fact, kindly GTFO.
I'll refer to you as a kid if I choose to, kiddo. You're certainly acting like a child. Only a fool doesn't realize that their opinion is in the minority. You can deny it all you want, but mainstream medical and psychological research contradicts your opinion. You are in the minority. So GTFO, you're pathetic.
@ScienceReasonBelief Well, this is hilarious. you tell me to get a life, yet you continue to reply. you say I'm acting like a child, yet it is you who has devolved into epithets and immaturity. I'm still standing by DARPA's research since, you know, they have the largest budget in the world. And being in the minority only affects opinion, not fact. There was a time that knowing the earth was round made you a minority. Deal with it.
I fell outa my chair laughing!! XDDDD I'm gay and I GET the sarcasm! lol sanctity....
TheHazel1991 3 days ago
I thought the guy who was talking about his opposition to gay marriage would get smashed with a ceiling lamp. And thanks how we legalize gay marriage kids, kill all of those opposed to it because we all know they're too dumb to understand :D
ADancingOstrich 5 days ago
Really, I thought the satire of this video would be obvious! 9 in 10 support gay folk, and several of their clips are parody of homophobic opinions and attitudes.
But really "Gay marriage threatens MY marriage..." "Dude! I just paid the strippers to go down on each other!" makes it perfectly obvious where this video stands on the issue.
MY PROPS to 9 in 10.
SmashtheCmachine 5 days ago
its stupid!!!
angelito0883 1 week ago
364 people are are too stupid to understand sarcasm.
helpermonkey226 1 week ago 3
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No worries. They went back to playing Farmville right after watching this video.
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I'm glad that our only two options are gay marriage or debauchery/adultery. Also, I'm glad that no one understood that last line "homosexuality is just for entertainment," because it made zero sense.
MiceCrispy 2 weeks ago
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MiceCrispy 2 weeks ago
Its um for a comedy contest people , really calm the fuck down and enjoy it , yeah gay marriage is fine but this video doesn't say otherwise because well its a damn joke ... seriously
stormysolomon 2 weeks ago
Satire at it's best.
imasackya 2 weeks ago
Total dislike!!
Love is love, so what the hell does it matter if it's two guys or two gals, or a man with a woman?
DuelistJohanAnderson 2 weeks ago
@DuelistJohanAnderson Uh, I think that's their point. They're being SARCASTIC.
helpermonkey226 1 week ago
MAJOR dislike
CaitlinAKeim 3 weeks ago
Apparently gay sex also for entertainment purpose too.....for fujoshi ;)
Kuroinekochun 3 weeks ago
its not real its for a comedy contest
GraySeamus 3 weeks ago
People should be able to marry whoever they like. :)
daisyduke769 1 month ago
... same sex marriage is for entertainment purposes only???? wow, that's sexcism
gagangewanhe3x 1 month ago
@gagangewanhe3x what?! blasphamy! .. its lesbian sex. :)
misssecretlovechild 4 weeks ago
The main joke of the video is that their fine with lesbians but not gay men its just to show how hypocritical people are of gay marraige and homosexuality as a whole. The other joke in there is that he's talking about how its bad for his marraige and yet he's at a strip club.
For those of you who have no brain cells or sense of irony :)
shakka219 1 month ago 23
@shakka219 also, the whole 'if gay marriage threatens straight marriage' then most men won't be married to women, ergo, they'll be stuck either being celibate, or going after hookers.
BrunhildaSwecker 2 weeks ago
I still laughed coz its funny but not funny enough for me to like it, its still on my dislike vote,
sagala30 2 months ago
Don't you get it? Bad for him and his Wife? His wife is obviously a stripper, and it would make her lose business.
Watcher863 2 months ago
@Watcher863 no he is saying gay mariadge would be bad for his mariage when he at a strip club wich is worse for his marriadge
thepwningeggnog 1 month ago
@thepwningeggnog No hes not.
Watcher863 1 month ago
@Watcher863 yes he is
Sp4wnm0reOverlords 1 month ago
@Sp4wnm0reOverlords No hes not.
Watcher863 2 weeks ago
I think this video is terrible! The lighting was all wrong, the actors had no idea what they were doing and the location was obviously made up!
Watcher863 2 months ago
I think this video is horrible and the people who made it should be punished in a cruel and unusual way. You shouldnt discriminate people based on their religion! Muslim, Christian, Buddhist: everyone should be allowed to... Oh wait, wrong video. Never mind.
Watcher863 2 months ago
I DONT BELIEVE IN GAY MARRIAGE-there I've said it !!!
So come and exterminate me all you gay normalphobe bigots out there.
garibaldiamy 2 months ago
@garibaldiamy ok fair enough , but tell me why should anyone care in the slightest what you think?
messi996 2 months ago
@robgiss Whether this be a joke or not it reflects real behavior. That's what offends people.
R3I8D 3 months ago
Why so many dislikes? It's a joke. Maybe It's too complex for some people.
robgiss 3 months ago
FUCK THIS.. gay guys turn me on ... :P
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First off! This is the most ignorant piece of garbage I have ever seen! I feel sorry for people like the ones in this video. I happen to be a GAY MAN and very proud. So anyone out there whos sippin on their hater-aid just know that this trash inspired me to get active and go Google things about Prop8. Wow! It sure feels nice to know I'm secure enough with myself to not let disappointing individuals like the ones who contribute to filth like this effect my life or anything about me.
johnmpoe 5 months ago
This applies to Males and Females alike because strippers have No! Business being married men .GAY People everywhere know each and everyone of yous are FABULOUS with or with out this. #smiles
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johnmpoe 5 months ago
He says gay marriage ruins the bond between him and his wife and meanwhile he's at a strip bar. What a fat homo.
BinkySkittleson 5 months ago
@BinkySkittleson um it was meant to be sarcastic
DarqRaynbeaux 5 months ago
WFT?! That man and what he represents makes me sick...How is your marriage gonna crumble if gay marriage is legalized? Is your wife an in the closet lesbian or something? AND WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING AT A STRIP BAR WHEN YOUR MARRIED? Gay people gettin' married has NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR OWN FUCKEN MARRIAGE!
cozygirl47 5 months ago
@cozygirl47 It's supposed to be funny. You should lighten up.
jack91x 4 months ago
If anyone is struggling with the sin and disease of homosexuality, please, seek medical and psychological attention immediately. Seek Christ while He may be found. Christ offer everyone forgiveness and salvation.
mrchiefofsinners 5 months ago
@mrchiefofsinners go fuck yourself, homophobia is a disease.
GBfanatic15 5 months ago
@mrchiefofsinners People like you make me sick. Single-minded, and fucking arrogant. Shove the "Christ can save you" bullshit up your nose and learn to accept.
cozygirl47 5 months ago
Justin Bieber's penis is the size of the dislike bar. In Soviet Russia, the ground falls on you. Chuck Norris is somehow related to this incident. Rebecca Black sucks. Thumbs up if *insert obvious bullshit here*. My parents thought I was watching porn. 310 views and thousands of likes!? press 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 or 9 and thumbs up. I hate ads and I'm thankful that porn doesn't have them. I pee in the side of the bowl to make less noise!
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xThexMaXx 5 months ago
am I wrong in assuming this ad was trying to be Ironic and make fun of people who are against gay marriage? I maybe wrong but thats what I got, maybe its beacuse I think its stupid to be against it, so I saw it that way........
blacksofia 5 months ago
This....is a joke right?
WillOTreeBee 5 months ago
I'm suprised how many people don't get this. Perhaps us brits understand it better, we've got a more ironic sense of humour.
Baileycake92 5 months ago 33
@Baileycake92 actually reading the comments is as funny as the video itself.
i showed it some gay friends of mine an they doubled up laughing, i'm from austria maybe it's not only a brit sense of ironic homour but a european in general???
loxnix 3 months ago
I really want to smack the person in the face who made this.
MARRIAGE IS FOR EVERYONE!
And "because lesbian sex is for entertainmant only"
That's awful!
Everyone should be happy even people who are a little bit diffrent!
Foreverluv21000 5 months ago
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@Foreverluv21000 You know this is for gay marriage? It's showing how stupid he looks. Sorry if you didn't see this.
Loopsifly 5 months ago
@Foreverluv21000 Srsly hun, it was in SARCASM. The person making it was saying about how absolutely stupid it is for these people to go around saying that when this is their entertainment. Not only tat, he was saying "My wife and I" He's married at a strip bar. And Gay marriage is desecrating the bond you have? It's all in complete satirical irony. I AGREE with this commercial because of what it points out. A married guy placing the blame on gays and then watching two girls get it on. IRONY
painoftheheart12 5 months ago 2
fucking lame
DoctorRainbow8321 6 months ago
FUCKING DICKS.
LadyJaideth 6 months ago
What the hell?
EmmaPinches 6 months ago
Obviously this is sarcasm.
JustTMe04 6 months ago
Fuck marriage, for EVERYONE!
BryanEKS89 6 months ago
If it weren't for gays and lesbians who would they get to prevent everyone else from getting book deals, record contracts and acting gigs? No one. People would succeed on merit rather that harrassment, exploitation and all around evil.
BaronVonLichtenstein 6 months ago
OMFG! ``because lesbian sex is for entertainment purposes only.´´ ??? is that what people in USA think about being gay??? that is so lame...
justlooking1902 6 months ago 17
@justlooking1902
unfortunately you are right.
MidnightChimes 6 months ago 10
@justlooking1902 Only the bigoted idiots in my country. My oldest brother is gay, and has been married just recently. And he and his husband are wonderful for eachother, emotional support and so on. My sister is lesbian and is currently engaged, and are also wonderful together. Unfortunatly, those who only think homosexuality is sex between those of the same gender, have the largest voices. There are those of us out here who don't see it that way. Love is Love, no matter age or gender.
snarryislife 6 months ago
@justlooking1902 no actually where i live thereare a lot of bi or gay people including me i am bi. and i think people should marry who they want to marry no matter the gender. i love a person for them not if they have a penis or a vagina
SiLeNtScReAmEr96 5 months ago
@justlooking1902 it's sarcasm retard.
RachelDoesntknow 4 months ago
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@justlooking1902 it's sarcasm retard.
RachelDoesntknow 4 months ago
@justlooking1902 it's sarcasm retard.
RachelDoesntknow 4 months ago
"Entertainment?"
Sex is supposed to be a symbol of love and bond, straight or gay. There is NO stupid problem with anyone's bond if there is gay marriage. I'm a lesbian and where my girlfriend is, there is a law against it. At least I'm lucky enough to be able to have me and her get married here in my state if we ever do so.
meaganfarr2 6 months ago
If I were president I would allow gay marriage. I mean, what the fuck? I beat the shit out of people that talk shit about my friends for being gay, your gay? Who cares. Your just as normal as everyone else in the world. I totally support gay, lesbian, and straight love. You hate it and wanna talk shit? Fuck you, have a shitty day ;)
madeyes888 6 months ago
This is a joke, though, right?
diemudd1 6 months ago
@diemudd1 if this wasn't that would be really fucked up!!
Joan5788 6 months ago
He's a fucking retard.. It's realy none of he's buissness if two men want to get married..
Chelsey126 6 months ago
muhuhuh sarcastic video.
misskool14 6 months ago
XD omg that was so funny.
rockerchick1378 6 months ago
just curious how would be going to a strip club and watching female's have intercourse with each other be sanctifying a marriage.....
mikeymania93 6 months ago
gay people cant get married then how can any1 get married DUH
partygirl101ist 7 months ago
lollololo
runescapeman809 7 months ago
i think gays should be aloud to marry its not hurting anyone and in america u guys always talk about freedom so why dont you let them marry
nick27ify 7 months ago 2
This is SO true, as a lesbian I hear these kinds of comments from men very often. So fucking tiresome. -_-''
LuRawen 7 months ago
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fuck gays
santariteno21 7 months ago
@santariteno21
that makes you gay!
MidnightChimes 7 months ago 51
@santariteno21 FUCK YOU
RainbowEater54 7 months ago
@santariteno21 FUCK YOU
ladypalida 6 months ago
Love Is Love! Gay Marriage!
RawrrSarahGoes 7 months ago
Yep double standards
TaiyouRyu 7 months ago
while yes this commercial does show hypocrisy thats not why you should vote yes or no on something. Its mudslinging which in my opinion is something that I consider highly dishonorable no matter whos trying to make the point. I'm fairly certain that a good portion of people who voted for prop 8 don't do this kind of thing. some do but not all and its not the people you're voting for its the proposition
DemonDarc 7 months ago
okay so its okay for two girls to do it but not two guys? so guys are allowed to watch " sexy" stuff but girls cant? MOST GIRLS DUN LIEK WATCHING TWO GIRLS DOING IT PPL DX
KaNoKaUcHiHa 7 months ago
ur retarded if gay or lesbian people want to fuckin get marrried then they should im not lesbian but its wrong to tell smeone that they cant be witht the one that that love so yeah fuck you whore....we r going to blow shit up.......so u better check ur self for u reck ur self.....
kajess100 8 months ago
I get your point.. The commercial still sucks.. Sorry...
edelynm89 8 months ago
Clearly most people missed the glaringly obvious point to this video. If you think this is against gay marriage, kill yourself. You're too stupid to be using precious resources.
chrishatespeople 8 months ago 3
LOL
Sanshaino 8 months ago
fuck you!
surfeygirl101 8 months ago
You are all stupid. This is an ad PROMOTING gay marriage. Oh, sorry. You probably don't know what promoting means. because you are stupid. its a joke. jeez...
pikegirl123 8 months ago
I bet you and your wife don't even have sex because she can't find your dick under all the flabcakes.
VanillaTwister 8 months ago
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FUCK YOU! You are a bitch whoever made this movie. You should be ashamed of yourself.Its not like people choose to be gay, "they are born that way"- the words of lady gaga! So stick that in your juice box and suck it bc my fucking uncle is gay you hoe!
stoneforlife11 8 months ago
Lol, people ARE OBLIVIOUS! This is clearly making fun of the sanctity between a man and a wife, its actually pro gay marriage. READING BETWEEN THE LINES PPL!
betyychan 8 months ago
I'm straight and I got gay friends theirs nothing wrong with them. There still one of the guys it's not like there fucking u or ur hurl friend so chill.
dkwats95 8 months ago
You guys are stoopid!! Gay mariage is our futur.. And the girls in the video are fat
LoveFacinelli 8 months ago
does not one of you commenters understand the concept of satire? my goodness.
maryelaineellis 8 months ago
I hope this is ironical. Seriously.
CaliCaliente00 8 months ago
You know what? It's your opinion, but... you're an asshole... I hope you fall in love for a guy! I'm not gay, but i could be, one day!
neckitas 8 months ago
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lizzychizzey34 9 months ago
@lizzychizzey34
watch it again. watch it with a friend who can explain it to you.
MidnightChimes 9 months ago 25
@lizzychizzey34 lol. Mate, the point of the video is that it's hypocritical when people say men having sex with men is wrong, when these same people enjoy women on women sex. It's showing hypocrisy, how some people don't take everything into account, because they like one part of something, but not the other. It's a pro gay ad :) People are people, if you have a problem with someone else who isn't harming you, it's your problem :P. Try not to jump to conclusions, it just makes u look silly :)
Gagtag1 8 months ago
@lizzychizzey34 hahaha fags
serbski500 8 months ago
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say this video is a joke...
queenfrostine97 9 months ago 2
I like gays.
khoomadee 9 months ago 2
I feel sorry for you ..... its a shame that your personal insecurities stop you from being happy with who you are to the point where you actually have to take the piss about the way others live their lives! I dont see why it should matter. if you dont like gays stay out of their way and carry on living it doesnt actually affect you unless you let it!
yarty1 9 months ago
wtf
awonderland123 9 months ago
It works lol
Shigager82 9 months ago
you douce bag
surfeygirl101 9 months ago
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MARRIAGE FOR EVERYONE! being gay is something you're born with, like having blue or brown eyes. not something that can be helped. THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS is something promised to ALL americans. so why is it that "gay people" have to be less happy because society doesnt approve? fuck that.
timberlyntheterrible 10 months ago 54
@timberlyntheterrible prove your born with it
JSMyst 7 months ago
@JSMyst No one knows what causes heterosexuality, homosexuality or bisexuality. That's as stupid as saying 'prove you were born straight.'
DontFxckWithFairys 7 months ago
@JSMyst
okay..... I was born bi because I had a huge crush on Fran Drescher when I was 4 years old (before I knew what homo/bisexuality was)
Thousands of spiecies in the animal kingdom (including dogs,chimps, cats, and swans) can be gay
It is a PROVEN SCIENITIFIC FACTthatsexuality is determined by horomones exposed to you in the womb
FutureTrophyWife96 7 months ago
@FutureTrophyWife96 In the animal kingdom, bats have the 3rd ranking highest percentage of homosexuality 8D
Kitten4000 7 months ago
@JSMyst
okay..... I was born bi because I had a huge crush on Fran Drescher when I was 4 years old (before I knew what homo/bisexuality was)
Thousands of spiecies in the animal kingdom (including dogs,chimps, cats, and swans) can be gay
It is a PROVEN SCIENITIFIC FACT that sexuality is determined by horomones exposed to you in the womb.
Homophobic jerk.
FutureTrophyWife96 7 months ago
@FutureTrophyWife96 Science can suck me off , im an arrogant jerk and im happy with what i believe , so if u can be born gay can we also argue that your genetics determine if ur into little children or animals ?
JSMyst 4 months ago
@JSMyst Well, if you make the assumption genetics defines your sexual preferences, yes.
robgiss 3 months ago
@timberlyntheterrible Homosexuality isn't something you're born with, it's a personal sexual PREFERENCE, as in, something preferred. It amounts to the difference between liking hamburgers and liking hotdogs- even though you prefer one, if you're starving, you'll eat. Look at the amount of sodomy in prison- are you telling me that 85% of criminals are gay? if so, then that's reason to worry about homosexuals, if not, then your argument is worthless. Think about it.
jack91x 7 months ago
@jack91x No, thats sexual preference. Being gay is more commonly a sexual orientation.
DontFxckWithFairys 7 months ago
@DontFxckWithFairys So how do you explain people changing their orientation? There is no evidence whatsoever that homosexuality is anything more than preference, falling in the same category as BDSM, or other deviancies such as bestiality or pedophilia. In fact, there is no functional difference whatsoever. If you want to make gay marriage legal, what of BDSM slave contracts? Think about it for a while. The empirical evidence clearly shows that you aren't born homosexual.
jack91x 7 months ago
@jack91x Well aren't you just so smart. People (specifically those that are closely affected by their peers) change their sexuality in acordance with their cultural beleifs and a number of other reasons. And as two intelligent beings debating as topic i would appreciate if you didnt slander my opinion as "outlandish" as I wont slander yours.
Kitten4000 6 months ago
@Kitten4000 You presented your opinion as fact, and I presented the scientific evidence for my rebuttal. Your claims are completely incorrect, and are thus outlandish. Even the most basic knowledge or the presence of common sense would allow you to see that both your theory on hormones and on cultural sexual plasticity are absolutely false. Perhaps you should take my advice and either do some research so that you can qualify as an "intelligent being" or abstain from debating altogether.
jack91x 6 months ago
@timberlyntheterrible
Ugg.. why even try? You are making assumptions here based on opinion. No one gives a shit about your opinion, the only reason people liked this comment is because they feel for the gay community. Do a study on gays being born to be gay, and then i'll believe you. Until then, stop making these remarks that state bullshit facts and irrelevant information.
simplesnip3z 6 months ago 2
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@simplesnip3z Why don't you do your research and look for the studies that have already been done? They are merely assumptions, but actual fact. His 'opinion' is scientifically supported.
monkeysthatkill 6 months ago
@timberlyntheterrible you are guareenteed happiness. just the right to pursue it.
ConradStriker 6 months ago
@timberlyntheterrible that's what you all say. I just can't believe it. Are we done?
THUNDERFFF 6 months ago
@timberlyntheterrible i have nothing against gays but how are you born being gay?
punisher1045 6 months ago
@punisher1045 They say that it may be from genetics or from chemical imbalances within the brain. No one really knows why, but it's most likely not a choice for most gays.
monkeysthatkill 6 months ago
@timberlyntheterrible It's a choice. You aren't "born" gay. You can't be born to like a dick up your ass.
iTutsByBeano 6 months ago
are you born to want one in your pussy?
MidnightChimes 6 months ago
@MidnightChimes That's being straight, no? I think you've misunderstood me, I'm against homosexuality.
iTutsByBeano 6 months ago
@timberlyntheterrible thank you at least someone understands...this commercial made me tear up!
posidonyaoi 6 months ago
So...Gay marriage is going to ruin his marriage with his lovely wife... While he is in a strip club XD Blackmail photo anyone? owo
sugarcaffeine4blood 10 months ago
Yes to GAY marraige because Lesbians are more than friends ;)
1yellowapple 10 months ago
that was pretty spot on lol
danagirl23 10 months ago
So it's okay for women to 'go down on each other' for the pleasure of men but it is wrong for who ever wants to to do it away from your old, pervert eyes? What bullshit! What gay people do is none of your business!
PS. if your marriage falls apart, it won't be because of gay marriage but because your wife hates your homophobe, pervert ass! What a hypocrite!!!!!!!
TheGenelara 11 months ago 2
@TheGenelara What homosexuals do in the privacy of their own homes has nothing to do with anyone else but marriage is between a man and a woman and not two people of the same sex.
Nukethelotofthem1 10 months ago
@Nukethelotofthem1
Wrong. Marriage is between two people who love each other. It's wrong to deny civil rights to a segment of the population. It's called discrimination, and that's wrong. Gay marriage is the right thing to do.
ScienceReasonBelief 10 months ago
@ScienceReasonBelief How can two men love each other as a man and woman can love ?
Nukethelotofthem1 10 months ago
@Nukethelotofthem1
the same way.... the heart.
ScienceReasonBelief 10 months ago 3
@ScienceReasonBelief So what about NAMBLA? THey say they love each other, but they're a group of pedophiles. Should 'love" be a reason to change our laws? What about polygamy? If you love all 4 of your partners, should you be allowed to marry all of them? What about bestiality? Should a woman and her dog be allowed to marry? What about BDSM? Should we honor master/slave contracts as being legally binding? Marriage is a legal term, it has very little to do with love.
jack91x 7 months ago
@jack91x
Some mistakes in your comments:
1-NAMBLA is actually a group of hebephiles (Not pedophiles)
2-It is called zoosexuality and not bestiality.
3-Animals can't consent to marriage in a legal way, so is ridiculous to even mention it.
DogsneedpIeasuretoo 7 months ago
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jack91x 7 months ago
@jack91x
Was just trying to make help you to make more accurate commend... don't know why you can't take positive feedback.
DogsneedpIeasuretoo 7 months ago
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jack91x 7 months ago
@jack91x
Are you really that stupid?
NAMBLA is a bunch of pedophiles, they're not gays. What they do is wrong because it involves children. Children cannot enter into a marriage contract. Likewise, animals cannot enter into marriage contracts.
(I can't believe you needed this explained to you!)
As far as polygamy and BDSM is concerned, as long as it involves consenting adults and there's no real abuse involved, why not?
ScienceReasonBelief 7 months ago
@ScienceReasonBelief I never said that they shouldn't. If you read my posts, never once did I dispute the basic human right to safe, sane, consensual relationships. What I disputed was their argument. If you want a legal marriage, say "I want my right to the legal benefits of marriage". Don't start an argument over your preference, don't make an excuse for what you are or what you want. You weren't born gay, you weren't forced into it, you chose it, so stand by your decision. Understand?
jack91x 7 months ago
@jack91x
I have ALWAYS said, when talking about this issue, that I want my right to the legal benegits of marriage. Why wouldn't I?
Some people think it matters WHY others are gay. And for them, explanations happen. And yes, some ARE born gay, thru exposure to hormones while in the mother's womb. Others believe it is purely pyschological. But the point is, no one, gay or hetero, choses their sexuality. So when you claim that people aren't born gay and that they chose it, you're wrong.
ScienceReasonBelief 7 months ago
@ScienceReasonBelief All of the empirical evidence proves that it is a choice. In places like the middle east homosexuality is near ubiquitous, while in places where it's not socially acceptable, the rate drops off sharply. The same is true of microcosms such as prisons. It's entirely a conditioned psychosocial reflex. In ancient Sparta, nearly EVERYONE was gay, at least until marriage (why spartan brides shaved their heads). There is no evidence that homosexuality isn't a choice.
jack91x 7 months ago
@jack91x Homosexuality is obviously a social choice. But there's always nature vs. nurture. Homosexuality is caused by an overload of the wrong hormone in ones body (ex. a male with too much estrogen), causing a person to be interested the same sex. It IS something that they are born with, and then social life comes into play to determine whether they actually pursue the same gender or not.
Kitten4000 7 months ago
@Kitten4000 That would be a great theory, except for the fact that it's completely incorrect. First of all, studies on hormone levels do not show any correlation to sexual preference. Testosterone doesn't make women lesbians, it makes them aroused. Estrogen doesn't make men gay, it makes them fat and depressed. So please check your facts before using them to make an outlandish claim.
jack91x 7 months ago
@jack91x
Sorry, but you couldn't be more wrong. The empirical evidence shows that sexuality is NOT a choice. I challenge you to present respected, mainstream references that prove your claim. While I can point to the Amer Med Assoc, the Amer Psych Assoc, and a host of other respected scientific bodies, all that affirm that homosexuality is NOT a choice... you have nothing except hardline christian "experts" who have not a shred of evidence.
Fail. Try again....
ScienceReasonBelief 5 months ago
@ScienceReasonBelief Perhaps if you were paying attention, you'd realize that you were talking to someone who A) Supports gay marriage, and B) I wouldn't be following a conservative christian opinion because my entire family is pagan. What I DO have is an extensive knowledge of neuroplasticity, cellular biology, and anthropsych. As for studies, try Dr. Clements Fry (Yale/DARPA); Cambridge University; Dean Byrd, PhD; Michelle Cretella, MD; etc, as well as common sense. Again, look at the prisons.
jack91x 5 months ago
@jack91x
Part 2:
Clements Fry died in 1955 (!) and his work supplanted by more accurate, modern research.
Dean Byrd is a Mormon (notoriously anti-gay) & a well known proponent of conversion therapy (pray away the gay), -- condemned by all major med/psych orgs.
Michelle Cretella is a pediatrician, not a sexuality expert. She also believes in conversion therapy & is a advisor to the Nat'l Org for Marriage, also very anti-gay.
It's great that you support gay marrige, but your ref's suck.
ScienceReasonBelief 5 months ago
@ScienceReasonBelief In every microcosm study, we see that sexuality is a fluid concept, owing more to social factors, neuroplasticity and cognitive restructuring than any physical trait. For example, in the modern day, obese women are not regarded as beautiful. But in the European Medieval Era, beautiful women are depicted as being quite overweight, the reason for this is entirely social- it's a class indicator. In societies where homosexuality is accepted, or indeed encouraged, it flourishes.
jack91x 5 months ago
@jack91x
Part 3:
While sexuality IS fluid to some extent, you shouldn't assume that there is always a concious choice available to the individual. Some degree of concious choice is available to bisexuals, but not to men who rate a 6 on the Kinsey scale. That should be pretty obvious, even to you.
ScienceReasonBelief 5 months ago
@ScienceReasonBelief When I was in the middle east, the locals had a saying that women were for children and boys for pleasure. In a society that encouraged it, it was nearly ubiquitous. Again, refer to the prison microcosm. Sodomy in prison is an accepted fact, and high levels of homosexuality are found in every prison, male or female. Are you saying that criminals are mostly born gay? If so, that's disturbing. But common sense dictates that it is a psychosocial reflex.
jack91x 5 months ago
@ScienceReasonBelief So, logic dictates that one of two choices is correct- that the homosexuality in prisons is caused by social factors, meaning that I am right, and it is nurture, not nature, that determines sexuality; or they are born gay and didn't realize it until they were imprisoned, making the majority of our criminal population homosexuals. This means that either you accept that I'm right, or you try to claim that homosexuality is linked with crime and immorality. Pretty simple choice.
jack91x 5 months ago
@jack91x
No, you are wrong. Homosexuality in prisons is a completely different issue, with different factors and different psychology. Apples and oranges, obviously.
Your pretty simple choice is: either present some verifiable scientific evidence (i.e., references from med/psych journals) that back up your silly claim that sexuality is a choice, or STFU. You haven't presented one SHRED of evidence.
ScienceReasonBelief 5 months ago
@ScienceReasonBelief Every microcosm shows the exact same result. Among the Sambia tribe of Papua New Guinea, ALL males participate in homosexual acts as a rite of passage. Any microcosm can be extrapolated onto the macrocosm. If they are homosexual, either they chose to be (consciously or not) or they were born that way. You are choosing to ignore common sense because it refutes your opinion.
jack91x 5 months ago
@ScienceReasonBelief Out of curiosity, I asked several members of southern Florida's LGBT community, one of the most prominent in the world, how they came into their sexuality. They tend to answer the same way: they had the occasional urge or tendency, and chose to explore it. This led them to associate their sexuality with the same gender, altering their brain structure in accordance with neuroplasticity. As they continued to reinforce these tendencies, the association became stronger.
jack91x 5 months ago
@ScienceReasonBelief If you were to look at even your own sexual preferences you would find this to be true. The specific acts or anatomies that excite or arouse you have changed over the years, evolving and developing, sometimes leaving prior associations behind as new ones were reinforced. As an example, when I was in my early teens, I thought that lesbians were hot, but as I got older, my sexuality was reinforced by my sex with women, leading me to appreciate penetration more. Think about it.
jack91x 5 months ago
@ScienceReasonBelief Now, because all of this happens subconsciously, we assume we have no control over it. However, as cognitive restructuring clearly shows, any effort at changing thought patterns will yield results. Try looking into the works of Norman Doidge, MD. I equate it to anger- people claim that they can't control their anger, yet it is a proven fact that you CHOOSE to become angry. Because people never really think about it, they don't understand their own brain functions.
jack91x 5 months ago
@ScienceReasonBelief A study was done among juvenile offenders in Pennsylvania, at Northwestern Academy, which houses criminals of all crimes, from assault to rape to theft, even murder. It was found that what separated the sex offenders from others were all learned traits. Those who had been molested themselves, became molesters; those that came into contact with child pornography became pedophiles. The same was true for all of the criminals; their sexual preferences were learned.
jack91x 5 months ago
@ScienceReasonBelief So far it would seem that psychology, anthropology, and biology (as well as common sense) all point to a common trend. Te reason that people have such a hard time thinking about this logically is that the issue is too emotionally charged- insecure heteros want a degree of separation from gays, and the "born that way" theory provides that; homosexuals who experience negative social effects want a reason and a shield, and it provides that too. But logically, it makes no sense.
jack91x 5 months ago
@ScienceReasonBelief Perhaps if you were to accept that all sexuality is natural, not because you're born with a set of preferences, but because you naturally acquire them as you grow, it'd be easier for you. This also explains people who decide quite late in life that they prefer the same gender. They may have lived for 50 years happily hetero, and then try homosexuality and switch. Hell, that's half the ads on Craigslist. The "born that way" idea doesn't stand up to any scrutiny whatsoever.
jack91x 5 months ago
@ScienceReasonBelief If it makes it easier for you, think of it like pizza. Someone who has never had pizza will never think about it, let alone crave it. But let's say you try pizza, decide that you like it. Your brain forms a connection between pizza and the satisfied need. The next time you feel that need, you may think of pizza, and the more you eat pizza, the more likely you will associate it. You weren't born liking pizza, or even knowing what it was. Now replace "pizza" with "penis".
jack91x 5 months ago
@jack91x
I don't have time to read all your crap. Here's the thing....
Millions of gays around the world know that they didn't choose to be gay. You obviously have some personal defect within if you cannot accept the testimony of all these people for who sexuality is not a choice, esp when they tell you it's not. Disbelieve these millions of people if you wish, but you're still wrong.
For a guy who's supposedly hetero, you care far too much about this. Get a life.
ScienceReasonBelief 4 months ago
@ScienceReasonBelief If you didn't want to be proven wrong, you shouldn't have tried to refute the logic of someone more intelligent than yourself. the subject does not matter to me; the act of delivering fact, truth, and logic to people such as yourself who live in a fantasy world of their own ignorance. YOU are the one who asked for my evidence; YOU are the one who chose to ignore it. Facts are facts. Face them or GTFO.
jack91x 4 months ago
@jack91x
You didn't use any logic, kid.
ScienceReasonBelief 4 months ago
@ScienceReasonBelief You can deny it all you want. And please don't refer to me as "kid". I am not a child. Though your propensity to ignore facts that don't support your world view is awfully reminiscent of a preadolescent tantrum. So unless you have something more constructive than outright denial of proven fact, kindly GTFO.
jack91x 4 months ago
@jack91x
I'll refer to you as a kid if I choose to, kiddo. You're certainly acting like a child. Only a fool doesn't realize that their opinion is in the minority. You can deny it all you want, but mainstream medical and psychological research contradicts your opinion. You are in the minority. So GTFO, you're pathetic.
ScienceReasonBelief 4 months ago
@ScienceReasonBelief Well, this is hilarious. you tell me to get a life, yet you continue to reply. you say I'm acting like a child, yet it is you who has devolved into epithets and immaturity. I'm still standing by DARPA's research since, you know, they have the largest budget in the world. And being in the minority only affects opinion, not fact. There was a time that knowing the earth was round made you a minority. Deal with it.
jack91x 4 months ago
@jack91x
Apparently you still think the world is flat, son. Hilarious!
ScienceReasonBelief 4 months ago
@ScienceReasonBelief I find it amusing that your comments have gone from on-topic discussion to nothing more than jibes. And please don