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  • I dont understand crap from what ATC is saying. I used to use voice chat with FSINN, and VATSIM was alot of fun and i had 0 problems understanding the ATC. then I made transition to Squawkbox 4 cus i thought its better. But now im scared to even come online to VATSIM.

  • Honest question: Do some think that to be good at ATC, you need to mush all your words together into one word? When I listen to LiveATC I hear clear normal cadence most of the time. I think if we all just slowed down a tad, it would be a whole lot better for everyone.

  • @absolutsoju I agree. Some controllers seem to think it's cool to make like a hostile, world-weary auctioneer with their commands. They even do this when there is plenty of time, and traffic is light.

    If I don't understand something, I don't hesitate to say, "please say again". And if I still don't understand them, I ask them to send it in text. At that point, they'll talk to you as if you were a child, but whatever... THEY are the ones with the problem, not me.

  • @tommyandmilo haha i like that talk lol.

  • vatsim did in my head. Im too slow for it....in a va, are people joining for something to do..or do they get unknown files about the route they fly which brings in unusual circumstances?

  • @The12rspc i have looked it up but i just dont get how you use it. like is it an atc program for fsx or what?

  • @The12rspc what is vatsim? ive looked it up a million times and i dont understand it.

  • next time try using fraps

  • I wanted to listen and watch Vatsim in action, but I cant even connect..although I was pinged but I couldnt have the green contact stuff connect and show...so, its like everything I own...like my cisco router...SIMPLE, EASY connection....bulldog, I bought two and tons of stuff, names, numbers...Im going crazy...

  • lol, know what is scarey? Its the hassle from the wife...they just dont get it. Its a flipping SIMULTOR, we're not playing with dolls.

  • Im going to try hooking up...i have to watch youtube tutorials so I know how to get this right..its almost as imtimitating as doing it for real radio communication with the tower, lol...see you one day soon I hope on vatsim. makes it more realistic and thats what I like....ciao

  • You are my savior the crads is what I've been looking for I've Bern so confused on the order thinks. So much.

  • @Soccermaniac3555 . CRADS was something I came up with myself. Apparently, there is another one, the official one, CRAFT (Clearance, Route, Altitude,  Frequency (dep), Transponder).

    Good luck.

  • Omg i got lost at the start lol its like a whole different language

  • @TheAG1234 RE: Vatsim...they talk so dang fast, its like "HUH? What was the first thing you said? Oh, thats my aircraft registration numbers, right.." Struth....maybe I should delete fsx and stay with tw08 golf, :)

  • Isn't the age requirement 16 year old+ on VATSIM? Are their 14 year olds on VATSIM cause I'm thinking about joining..I'm nervous cause I haven't mastered ATC 100%, and even if I do I probably will get nervous and mess up or start laughing.

  • @ModelAirports he Vatsim is for any1. Im 14 and im a App controller for vatsim theres no limit for age in vatsim it only matters about skills.

  • @ModelAirports Im just trying to link up my fsx with vatsim and I feel the same way, like the real thing and we dont wanna sound like dummies, too late, newbies like us are expected to ask what, or repeat info...or go slow, etc...Im thinkin of just texting at first...it will get less intimidating as you use it, then it will be old hat and you will be telling someone else, no problem...maybe see you online sometime soon. Rick

  • @ellonysman Yeah I might give it a year till I get the ATC procedures, etc. in my head.

  • @ModelAirports 13 years old is the VATSIM minimum age.

  • is there voice clear or is it the camera that is making there voice not clear?

  • i really want to join vatsim except iheard you cant do direct gps flights and i'm not that confident with and other form of ifr. will i still be able to fly and just put in a note that i'm flying direct gps?

    thanks

  • hey there - i wonder if you can help me. i recently did a computer cleanup. before the cleanup i managed to install fscopilot and fsinn - even though the installation wasn't complete. i uninstalled everything and tried again - this time however, my computer is saying "error opening file" when i click on the "install" icon in fscopilot. do u know what this might mean? did i uninstall a program that reads fspilot/fsinn accidently? plse help.

  • i cant see any traffic help?

  • ah, the old PMDG 737-800 eh?

  • Great video, Im already signed up, just waiting on the software to get here for FSX, then i can start getting into it.

  • you cant hear what they say haha:P

  • Guys use FSINN AND FSCOPILOT. Its much better than sqkbox in my opinion but it is complicated to set up

  • Yeah. Definitely. Not too complicated to set up, however it is a little bit more work.

  • guys if Squck box dosent apeer to work u can use alsow FSINN + FSCOPILOT

  • How can I get that brrrr burrr burrrr deep airline pilot with 500 years flight experience...voice?

  • @ellonysman

    All real world pilots started right where you are. Don't expect so much from yourself so soon. Give yourself a chance. One of the first things I had to learn was that ATC is there to help you, not condemn you. We are a very close knit family in aviation and we all know what it feels like in the beginning.

    This program comes highly recommended. It is for real world ATC communications. It's called

    "Say Again Please."

    Good Luck

  • im scared to use vatsim

  • @ellonysman I had that too in the beginning ( although I'm flying on IVAO ) you just have to do it. Just think like I did:

    The hell with it, I just do it. I think the biggest 'problem' on IVAO and VATSIM is the communication between pilot and ATC. it's hard to say but : get over it is the only solution :) good luck ;)

  • @ellonysman so am I:) its only this that I may not understand ATC commands :)

  • @ellonysman I was very nervous at first too! Prepare what you are going to say, that's what I did first, like wrote down what I was going to say next :)

  • @ellonysman is it because your talking to real people?

  • @ellonysman why?!

  • @point6000x why? well, im older, thus frustrated with the pc enough already, life problems...and never ending options etc on and now i downloaded the components but it didnt hook up with vatsim, no green connection, thus i have to search and go step by step to fix yet another computer related problem....not the patience i should have...sigh!

  • @ellonysman saaaaame

  • It's best to program ur rout into gps, KNOW YOUR ROUT. If u don't and u make a wrong turn, your bound to get one of these controllers who has been on for 24 hrs yelling at you and giving you a smart ellic tone. Some of the controlers are bad about that. Trust me,I know from my early days on fsx.

  • Is it possible to text in a chatbox in VATSIM?

    If so, how do I go about do that?

  • I installed SB4. Installation was successful. but it does not show up in FSX addon menu. Plz help...

  • @aviyanka070 Just run it on the desktop.

  • hey... thanks for the support... i actually gave up on SB & am now using FSInn... no issues... cheers... happy flying...

  • Hello i connected to vatsim but i cant hear anyone

    Is there any way to hear them ?

  • You have to be on the right frequency to hear controllers/pilots. There are different frequencies for delivery, ground, tower, dep, center and etc depending on the number of pilots/controllers online. When you sign on to VATSIM you'll get a list of ATC near by you, if any. Note the frequency they are on and turn the COM1 fquency to the one they have listed. You'll be able to hear/talk then. Make sure to not just blab on the frequency though, everything on this network is done by the book.

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  • Hello I've signed up with Vatsim I don't know how to install it onto my fs9.I don't even quite know how it works. would any one like to reply to this and show me how to use vatsim thanks :D

  • hey ppl I am now on vatsim but there is a problem wat dose it mean by route?? wat do i put in there??

  • for route you add...your route...well to break it down-your departure-en-route-then your arrival.

  • i'm gonna join after I saw the guy make a mistake and the ATC din't go off on him this place seems very laid back and will let you make mistakes

  • up to a point, make sure you know what you're doing, they won't get on you for phraseology, but if you file a chart and fly something else they will get really pissed.

    good luck

    zla artcc controller

  • Where do you control in ZLA? I control at ZNY.

  • check out the website, i'm under AZ or anush saffari, i'm bravo rated, mostly control LAX_TWR. taking a 2 month vacation so i won't be on in the next couple montsh though.

  • Are the session open 24/7 and is it like one giant server so flying from and to places towers might be open

  • yeah the "session" is open 24/7 and different controllers all over the world can log on anytime, they are ussually split into the ARTCCs and VACCs that exist in real life.

  • really wish i still had my FS9 disks...

    Also, when I want to fly on VATSIM, which server do I choose? or doesn't it matter?

  • you choose the closest one, or the one which has smallest ping(use ServInfo, great app!), all are connected so it is only a matter of connection speed, you still can fly anywhere.

  • try going to your local library or call up before you go ask if they have computer games ( most do, or the ones i have been too have ) if they do go there check out fs9 install all 4 disks like your normally would but instead of removing it from your computer when you return them just download a file from fly away simulation called fs9 no cd crack read the instructions to that file do that start up fs9 with no disk and there you go

  • nice tutorial BTW ;)

  • Just out of curiosity -

    Does the tower tell you your F/P to input into the FMC, or can you fly your own rout from the likes of flightaware?

    Also, what is the most common FS version people now fly?

  • Well,

    1. Tower never tell you a full route of youre flight.

    2.You cant fly on own.

    3. The most of people use a Flight Simulator 2004, but if you want you can also use a FS2002 and FSX.

    Cheers.

  • you can also use x-plane, even version 9 with which xsquawkbox works without any problems even though v9 is not mentioned in the manual! I am an x-plane newbie and a vatsim newbie but I already like both :)

  • ja osobiście polecam FS2004, a jeśli potrzebujesz jakiejś pomocy dot. VATSIM-u to służę :)

  • Is that sqauk box or FSINN?

  • squawkbox

  • Is St. Paul Airlines still available?

  • im a pretty well experienced vatsim pilot, ive thought of starting atc, not because ill enjoy it as much as flying, but because doign atc for abit will benefit me with my pilot and navigational skills. :) but first i gotta pas the VATSIM atc exams. :S

  • Anywaone here fly for SWVA? SWVA is AWESOME.

  • it exactly how i started! not knowing what to do or say. takes practice and seeked help and had fun!

  • If you are new to vatsim, I wouldnt start off with a mic straight away. Go with text to learn all the language

  • Grat it is very helpful.

  • What do they usually tell you when they tell you the "route" part of CRADS?

  • Thats your SID (Standard Intrument Departure). Then possibly one or two waypoints after via radar vectors.

  • awesome..thanks for explaining too bc it was kinda hard to understand them..I cant wait to try!

  • thats the thing....you have to learn the aviation language

  • it's not that hard to learn. I'm 13 and I go to CAP where they teach you a bit aviation language.

  • yea, i struggled with it for a sec...but its easy now...:)

  • Thank you so much for this.

  • i joined vatsim quite a while ago but they asked me to download something i did but i could not figure out anything can someone help me i would like to fly on vatsim, thanks.

  • I too have registration problem...

    I cant recive e mail

  • how do u logg on 2 vatsim and still fly fs?

  • lol google it?

  • this was so helpful its going in my fav and Im subscribing..

  • does vatsim affect flight sim frame rates? anyone.

  • for me, yes

  • it depends on ur system, 9/10 it wont.

  • it shouldnt at all...

  • Nope it doesn't.

  • does anyone know how to follow the routes? if so can someone show me

  • FMC

  • If there is no ATC around for the airport you are at, do you contact the nearest one? Thanks

  • No, you contact unicom (122.800) and report to traffic your intentions... but only if local approach/departure or center is not online.

  • Great Its Just Like real, getting a new headset tommorow, cant wait for my first online flight for Thomson Virtual! I have just been flying offline.

  • BTW im not spamming, i will help anyone for free as my time permits, usually after 8pm PST til around 11PM. Gotta have a mic and ventrilo to be able to communicate with you during the lessons.

  • I've been trying to connect to VATSIM for a while now. I'm afraid i'll do something wrong or make a fool of myself so the attempts to connect have been half hearted. One of these days i'll work up the courage to connect. btw..not braggin either..i have close to 800 hours on fsx on my planes. I can perform ILS approach or land on the numbers using GPS if I make the turns early.

  • That's a PMDG 737. I have over 600 hrs online with VATSIM in that plane. I have over 2000 verifiable hours and more than 800 flights in a PMDG 737 and Level-D 767...Vatsim pilot id #932152, and would be glad to help anyone get started flying online with VATSIM. I can teach you everything you need to know how to fly online with air traffic control. Just send me a message and i will get back to you.

  • what plane is that?

  • i got FS04, and i dont got a mic, can i still do virtual multip[layer flying w/o a mic?

  • yes u can use text. mic is easier but text is good aswell.

  • i got flight sim 04.. where to get deep knowledge of all these things their tutorial r not that good..

  • love the video though!!

  • its not CRADS its CRAFT

    Clearance limit, route, altitude, frequency, transponder

  • Isn't really an "easy" way to remember your clearance, maybe try writing it down so you don't forget as they give it to you...

  • Im a vatsim noob but man, dis is way to hard.

    Ease up on da info. srry

  • if you and i can contact each other i can be a tutor to help u

  • can u show me an easy way to remember IFR clearance? i always forget at the altitude

  • What does Squawk mean?

  • not sure but i think its just a confirmation code

  • Its the code, that u put to ur transponder, so it is a confirmation code. in VRC (ATC client)U tell them to put it in so the speed on the radar dont flash. So we always know if u put it in right or not :D

  • Where is the transponder in MSFS2004? I've never seen it in any of my planes

  • On the radio stack second from the bottom, with 4 digits to put in :)

  • is that the PMDG?

  • somebody reply i have flight simulator 2004 can i play on vatism with other pilots who have flight simulator x or just other fs2004 users?

  • only according to ur game version

  • hey, how do you get the trim sound on the PMDG? :S nice video otherwise

  • And yeah..those ATC guys are awsome! No sweat at all...

  • Ur mentored on the airfield and after time u pick stuff up as u go, so "U can control with ur eyes closed" as they are doing it now

  • Im practicing on my PMDG but I still got a lot to learn about navigation..then Ill go for VATSIM.

  • This two Videos from you are verry informatively...i can learn a lot from them. Can i contact you?..cause i got some questions.....Grettings from LSZB :-)

  • i want to be an air traffic controller and i am finding it hard to start in vatsim

  • hey man great job!, im gondering what kind of FSM do you have, cause i hope u can give me some pointers, for example the aircraft you have, is it from a virtual airline? o where do you download so i can have the closest to a real aircraft, like the sound you have with the computer saying the minimums etc. i will apreciate! good luck and clear skies!

  • when i start squak box there are no controllers listed on the right hand side of it. can u help me?

  • make sure you have the correct frequency of the desired control area (GND, TWR, etc.) tuned into your COMM1 radio.

  • Thanks for posting this vid. Yesterday I made my fisrt flight at IVAO, and i was making so much mistakes, I'm relieved to see that I'm not the only one. I think when you're getting used to it, it's a lot of fun flying online at IVAO/VATSIM. Grtzz

  • nick plese i need ur help how do i connect to ivao and how do i use mic( i tried connectin on the default 737 but it said i was online but i could still use the fsx built-in atc and there was no one and no voice... please send reply to my inbox

  • you set your mic button

  • i just joined VATSIM a few days ago and i dont know what im doing.

  • That's how it starts. your best bet is to read through as much of the pilot resource center material as possible. It has great guides on what do to for your first flight. I used it exclusively for my first flight. Has transcripts on what to say, etc. But also just observe, my first week on VATSIM I didnt even get off the ground. I just sat on the tarmac trying to absorb ATC and the vocabulary. Also start small. I started with the default fs9 cessna and did a small trip. Now I'm flying 767s.

  • VATSIM uses FS2004 and a program such as Squawkbox to connect to VATSIM's server so that you can fly with other flying enthusiasts and air traffic controllers

  • You can also use FSX or X-Plane.

  • what is VATSIM. is it flight sim 2004?

  • hi i joined VATSIM now and have had a few flights already and its fantastic....on sunday there is an event at vatsim UK called 'cross the pond' where we going from one of three u.s. airports including philadelphia to london heathrow-are you going to be at this please

  • hi im just interested-do ATC basically apart from enroute give you directions to adhere to the sids and stars and then the approaches of the airports u using in vatsim....also do u have these charts to hand when you fly

    thanks

  • yea, they tell you what sids to fly, and stars occasionally.

    they vector you for ils approaches etc. you can get all charts from ais. just type it in on google

  • yeah fantastic...i cant wait to get going with vatsim.....got proficient at default flight sim x ...awaiting the pmdg 747x and then hopefully see u then!

  • this is real good, i do UPS flying its pretty fun to do and i do vUSAF.

  • Good point!

    I'm still confused on connecting to vatsim :S

  • well looking at the top bar is looks FSX

  • Yeah but this video was added at the beginning of 2006. I don't think FSX was released then

  • Wait is this FSX or 2004?

  • Looks like 2004 to me.

  • Looks good, would've been better with fraps.

    I'm just confused about connecting to Vatsim and such

  • where is the ptt button and how do you tune the frequencies

  • Can someone tell me how i get into the attcully vatsim and what programs i use, please reply :P

  • vatsim(dot)net....to fly all u need is flight simulator....X is the lastest... to control (atc) you just need to join....you dont hav to buy any software for atc

  • Australia clearance consists of

    Clearance

    Departure

    Route

    Runway

    Altitude

    Transponder

    Frequency

    And we dont give, Initial climb 5,000 climb FL310 10 mins after departure

  • did you guys know that if your clearence does not deviate from your filed flight plan all you have to readback is your transponder code.

  • just to let you know, an easier mnemonic for clearance is C.R.A.F.T.S.:

    Clearance

    Route

    Altitude

    Frequency

    Squawk

  • agreed

  • Yay for Vatsim =]]

  • when u r on vatsim, do u half to use ur voice?

  • Its more realistic and fun if you do, but you can still just type.

  • you don't, you can use your FS's chat window or your client's chat window to type, but like coventelite said, it's much more fun and realistic if you use voice. you can still use text at the same time use voice if you want.

  • I've found that out, ive been flying on VATSIM for about 3 months now. Thanks for the info anyway!

  • Vatsim huh? feels like ur a real pilot... looks fun i should join.

  • why not x-plane? i dont understand? i dont get it?

    sombody tell me why fs2004 is prefered to x-plane? why?

  • Ah, didn't see the edit..well then my mistake :)

  • A couple of points. When anthony read back his clearance, you stepped on the controller. You are supposed to wait until the controller says either "SPA 991, readback correct, Push and start at your discression. Contact me when ready to taxi" (since it was tower obviously ground and clearance were not online so there would be no need to switch freqs). The tower did the right thing and put you on request (kind of a slap on the hands)

  • Thanks for the comments. I did not step on. Controller had already acknowledged SPA991's readback. It just did not make it on the video. If you listen carefully, SPA991 is ready to taxi, this only happens after controller says read back correct.

  • Looks like the PMDG 737, thought it may be the Level-D Sim 767. I have both but have been flying GA and warbirds for the past few months on VATSIM so I am not sure.

  • Deftinatley PMDG 737, the 767 cockpit has a fixed layout with mostly analogue gauges and 2 screens on top of each other (ND and PFD), and also has a beige colouration instead of grey. New Gen 737's have screens side by side and only the Standby gauges are Analogue, cockpit primarily grey-blue colour.

  • Cool panel, is it payware?

  • Hey what kind of graphics card is that? And i notice you have no lag what so ever!!!

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