How to know if you are saved

[yellowmoonlaughter]

thank you so much for posting!!! I really needed this message!!!! God bless you!!!!

[NowIamNew]

God Bless Your message.

[JohnnyNokaster]

No, don't read the Lord of the Rings. Read the Word of God.

[1adh5]

when you get saved you know it ..

[rgrggfdgfgr]

Whats more real the bible or the Lord of the Rings?

Yea thats why nobody cares,

your religon is ALREADY DEAD :)

why do you believe is it cause your

A: dumb ?

B: scared ?

C: you like hate crimes?

I'm sorry your minds were corrupted with lies, wait no im not

[HedeenJeff]

@TonyRJ1989 There will be scoffers in the last days...

[HedeenJeff]

@TonyRJ1989 Check out Isaiah 19:2 - and correlate that to what going on over there now. Prophecy fulfilled. ANd check out Hosea chp 4. Prophecy Fufilled (regarding the death of the birds and fish)

[HedeenJeff]

@TonyRJ1989 Nothing is impossible or to hard for GOD.

[HedeenJeff]

@TonyRJ1989 Yes.

[HedeenJeff]

@TonyRJ1989 I said it like a modern day "pharisesism". Those people were the "teachers of religious law who were blind guids, liars and murders. Their ansestors would kill GODS prophets and then build memorials for them. Hypocrits. And yes, they were here on earth before GOD became Jesus Christos in a human body.

[HedeenJeff]

GOD does not like doubt, put on the helmet of salvation given through Christ Jesus. The shedding of his blood for the forgiveness of sins and his ressurrection for your justification by faith. Beleive also in the One who sent him. Father, Son of GOD, and the Holy spirit.

[HedeenJeff]

@TonyRJ1989 NO. That is a modern day phariseism. Transubstiation - a lie. Saint and angel worship is sin. You shall have no graven image. Whats the "charecture" of Christ doing on the cross? There are many things about that church which is heretical an unbiblical.Salvation is found in Christ non other. Not to mention the may persecutions of the roman church to GODs people getting the truth out, etc.Give not specail creedance to the"denomination" but believe in christ.

[sharingtruthdotorg]

This video was a blessing! Praise the Lord.

[RJL738]

I am a Christian and near the time when I first became a Christian I whent through a brief time when I " accepted Jesus Christ several times to be sure" this is very common and it is really a sighn that even though it is unneccisary that person is determined. I am glad for people to want to try and serve the Lord.

[Bosingr]

Also, Romans 6.

[Daikokuten777]

There is no such thing as "Saved" this is a Theology created by Man. Where does Jesus teach of being "SAVED".(as in your ticket to Heaven?) He of course speaks of changing your ways, Trusting in the Lord, putting your Life in the Lord's hands. However GRACE is the ONLY THING that Provides for your Entry into Heaven. It has NOTHING to do with "SAVED". (and if you are speaking of "Saved" as turning your life over to Jesus, you have an entirely different Discussion).

[sharingtruthdotorg]

@Daikokuten777

Here are a couple verses in response to that.

"That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved." (Romans 10:9)

"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:" (Ephesians 2:8-9)

"For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God." (1 Corinthians 1:18)

[cobra178]

God bless you my brother just kip pit upp

[M0THERKN0WSBEST]

I always liked the "tell the mountain to move" bit, ... What exactly doe's he mean by that, how do we apply that statement?... did he not say something to the effect, that if you truly believed, and call upon his name, that he would appear beside you? ... invisibly right? ... like you can move mountains, but the only way to pass the salt, is to physically pass the salt, ... its a sort of vernacular that you either buy into, or you don't.

[agentorangetechno]

Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost:

For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)

Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost.

Act8:15

thats saved!

When this happens to YOU... then your saved,and you will know it,

I experianced the true resurecting power of God,by his holy spirit.,.,

and so can YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Full4God]

The Samaritans received the indwelling of the Holy Spirit when they were baptized into Christ. (Acts 2:38; 5:32; 19:1-5) There is a difference between "indwelling" and "falling upon." The former does not result in the ability to speak in tongues, etc., but the latter does. Apparently, the apostles in Jerusalem believed the Samaritans needed this special gift, which occurred through the laying on of the "apostles hands." That's why the seven men in Acts 6 could later do miracles.

[Imaginefree69]

"whosoever sinneth, hath not seen him, nor known him.

.. let no man deceive you. He that commmitteth sin is of the devil. Whosoever is born of God, commmitteth not sin: for his seed abideth in him, and he can not sin, because he is born of God."

1 John 3

So...

Are you saved?

[Cabanas751Dunhill]

James 2

26 For just as a human body without a spirit is lifeless, so also faith is lifeless if it is unaccompanied by obedience.

Galatians 3

27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

Philippians 2

5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

Romans 6.3many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

The law of the wise is a fountain of life, to depart from the snares of death.

[TJae1]

if there's a - charge, I'm definitely the +... @@/

[TJae1]

lol... utube has trollers, they exist ;)

[PriestessLeah]

I agree with JF that if you wanna be saved, you need to work to be what God wants you to be.

That said, we are not Saved automatically by "believing" (actions are involved TOO). Therefore, we have no way to know whether we are "saved" until God tells us we are!!

Many Churches believe that we are automatically Saved by simply believing. But there is more involved like behavior. And can we claim to know God's opinion on our behavior? No!

You guys cannot know whether you're saved!! (nor can I)

[ServantoftheLamb]

PrincessLeah,that is soo incorrect. That is ABSOLUTELY WRONG!! Yes you can know if you are automatically saved. WE ARE SAVED BY GRACE NOT OF WORKS lest any man should boast. There is no amount of works that can lead you to heaven, no matter how much is donated to charities, if you help an old lady to cross the street, how much time spent volunteering to help the poor, etc., We are spiritually dead in our sins we can never "work" our way to heaven, no matter how much.

[PriestessLeah]

You born-again folks are just so mistaken. Of course you can't "save yourself". Only God saves. So we agree there. But you need to understand that HE expects you to at least TRY TO ACT, yes *ACT*, like a good person.

Alright?

I will quote from the Bible:

Then He will also say to those on the left hand 'Depart from Me, you cursed . . . for I was hungry and you gave Me no food; I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink; I was a stranger and you did not take Me in . . .'

Matthew 25

[ServantoftheLamb]

If you really want to know how to know if you are really saved we can chat if you like and I will tell you. Just send a message to my inbox.

[PriestessLeah]

ServantoftheLamb: you are the one who is wrong. I'm not saying that we can "save ourselves" through our actions. No one "saves themselves" so don't twist my words. I say that God requires that you ALSO ACT like a good fricking person.

I.e. "You saw me naked, and clothed me. Saw me hungry and gave me water" Do you recognize that scripture? Those are GOOD ACTIONS. HE says that unless you did not do these things you will go to hell!!

You need Grace PLUS action.

Matthew 25:34 Please read it!!!!

[OpusMonk]

Im in real trouble ,, just saw this movie Zeitgeist and feel troubled about my faith... someone please talk me out of these things that I'm seing, documentaries.. someone please tell me that they've seen zeitgeist and talk me out of agnostic reasoning in jesus name...

[aquaman1717]

great video Jezuzfreek

[fishboi87]

ok then that is the standard for morality? what is right and what is wrong? common sense fails in that no one has a common sense of right and wrong.

[NinpoIN]

right and wrong are objective elements of nature. It is only our understanding of right and wrong that is relative.

[pologeo16]

nice

[HolocaustReenactor]

Maybe you need to take your fucking nose out of that book and look up at the real world. You don't even KNOW is christ actually existed, much less a god. You can't simply reject evolution or plate tectonics or archeology just b/c it dosn't fit with the bible. The bible is false in many respects, but you fail to find fault in your ignorance.

[wislee28]

i dare you to go to a church. not any church, a church fulled with the holy ghost and try it for yourself to see if god is real or not

[Quickets]

lol..obviously some one who hasnt seen a demon. They exist.

[silvercade]

That would turn years of groundbreaking physics on it's head, please next time you see a ghost, TAPE IT!

[Quickets]

Do you study physics? If you did you would know that physicists such as Michio Kaku and others have tried to explain ghosts and cannot. The only suggestion they can make is something living in the 11th dimension (M-Theory) which is a "murky" theory and they have no idea what lives in that dimension. My personal beleif is that its the realm of the supernatural.

[silvercade]

There's no purpose for me to believe in ghosts so until I actually see one myself or perhaps on tape (convincingly) then I'll accept it. You'd think out of all the years of photography and videography that someone would have caught a glimpse of a real ghost by now. As far as the rubbish goes that's out there, I'm far from convinced.

[Quickets]

There are numerous television programs dedicated to proving the supernatural and some of them such as Ghost Adventures and Ghost Hunters have caught some pretty compelling evidence. I for one have seen ghosts and I am in need of no immediate proof from science as I have witnessed it first hand.

[silvercade]

I'm sorry but I think you're completely ridiculous on this issue.

[Quickets]

I dont blame you for your opinion. Maybe one day you'll start asking questions and do more than peak outside of your box.

[silvercade]

Lol, right.

[TJae1]

There are numerous television programs dedicated to proving the supernatural and some of them such as Ghost Adventures and Ghost Hunters have caught some pretty compelling evidence. I for one have seen ghosts and I am in need of no immediate proof from science as I have witnessed it first hand. hmmm... need 2 watch sci-fi more often... What was Ur 1st hand, experience btw... Quickets. I'll give U a decent discussion... c how it goes though

[TheFragile89]

There is nothing to be saved from.

[lixox1455]

...dwell on God and His glory. God saves you because He is love and He is truth. Thanks for the encouragement Brother.

[commentguy77]

I really like most of this video. Question question question. Hungry for God and spiritually awake. What greater way to show devotion to God than to constantly dwell on what he is trying to tell us. I do not think an omnipotent being is insulted when we wonder if he exists or not. I would also question those who claim to know what God is feeling at any given moment.

[TheChariot777]

God Bless.

[budbandit25]

you are awesome keep it up brother...God Bless

[jeremiahj13]

ignore the haters. i love you my brother :)

[bitterchew]

Many folks equate having doubts with disbelieving. But the degree of remorse you feel for these doubts is proportional to how much you really do beleve. Otherwise why would you care? When you pray for salvation through Jesus Christ and turn from sin to God, you have demonstrated that you believe. Just follow Him each day. You are "sealed" with the Holy Spirit till the day of redemption.

[rolpho]

Yes Jesus is it out there, he exists in the realm of delusion..along with the easter bunny, and santa.

[can1not1find1a1name]

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[eamber246]

I love this video. Thanks so much, jezuzfreek777.

[prokadm]

great vid, thanks

[powermaxxx777]

Yes at times I do not feel worthy of such a wounderful gift as Jesus has offered to give us if we only follow in his footsteps. I dought this sometimes because of the sinful soul that comes with me as a human. But, remember, keep reaching for the life preserver and do not give in to the decieving lies and distractions that come to you by nature. You can only help it by at least trying.

[powermaxxx777]

Hey, I just wanted to tell the person that is not shure if he is saved that he is not alone and many others, including myself, are on a spiritual journey to improve ourselves and find Jesus for ourselves.

[drnoj1]

Stop asking this guy and talk to your god. Jezuzfreek can not help you, for he is a man. Read the book! I don't believe , but I've read the book. As a matter of fact all of you blasphemers on the pc should be ashamed. The materials used to make the pc are of a perversion of the earth that your god gave you. Give up all ur belongings and truly worship. All this youtube preaching is sinning!

[wislee28]

do u know what your talking about?

[xnightxamex]

HAPPY JESUS DAY!!!!

[fanliz]

b4 i was saved.. i would always quiestioned if there is a God. Now i believe 100% that there is. Even though my faith is small, Its growing everyday for living the christian life. But its pretty hard to evangelize lol but i wont stop trying. And agian GREAT VID. !!!

[rolpho]

Dont do it! lol you are being brainwashed....jump ship now, jump ship and never look back!

[alienjesus2012]

lol

[rolpho]

How sad is it to view questions as wrong...my goodness I hope you lose this shitty religion.

[JesusTickles777]

Friend, that would be the religion of the Toilet.

[rolpho]

Ouch, Christianity would not be worthy of holding my shit, sorry.

[JesusTickles777]

Man, if you held your poop in, that would cause major infection and illnesses.

[rolpho]

I plan on depositing it at Falwell's grave site.....

[JesusTickles777]

Ok, just make sure not to get arrested ;)

[Rhjannon]

PracticingCatholic--Why r u so afraid?

[Rhjannon]

Pt 1:Pretty interesting PC, that u think that u know me or my views; it just bugs u that I won't come out and say what you want me to say. U did not offend me. You did not want a TRUE DEBATE(it doesn't take a genius to figure that out), u just want

[practicingcatholic]

brad, I notice you have lucaslabrador on your favorites. He is a bigger nut than you are. I also noticed that you think the 1611 King James Version is the only inspired version and all other English translations are corrupt. Do you know how stupid this is. How did you decide this? Are you a mind reader of The Lord God Almighty? You're so funny!!!!!

[practicingcatholic]

You are a cafeteria Christian bradidu. You pick the scripture you like and dismiss what you do like. And even then you take those out of context. I've given you a clear understanding about confession and you just ignor it.

[practicingcatholic]

continued.........

You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone. And in the same way was not Rahab the harlotjustified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out another way? For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, so faith apart from works is dead.

[practicingcatholic]

continued......

Even the demons believe - and shudder. Do you want to be shown, you foolish fellow, that faith apart from works is barren? Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he offered his son Isaac upon the alter? You see that faith was active along with his works, and faith was completed by works, and the scripture was fulfilled which says, "Abraham believed God, and it was reckoned to him as righteousness"; and he was called the friend of God.......

[practicingcatholic]

continued.....

without giving them the things neededfor the body, what does it profit? So faith by itself, if it has no works, is dead. But some will say, "You have faith and I have works." Show me your faith apart from your works, and I by my works will show you my faith. You believe that God is one; you do well........

[practicingcatholic]

Goduse, James 2:14-26 What does it profit, my brethren, if a man says he has faithbut has not works? Can his faith save him? If a brother or sister is ill-clad and in lack of daily food, and one of you says to them "Go in peace, be warmed and filled,".........

[Kunado]

Stop making a big deal about how Jesus died because his deaths pain is a mere rough weeekend compared to some other(Even Christian) martyrs. I won't even consider bringing up the story of Prometheus and the origin of mortal fire.

(Credits to Russellsteapot)

[Kunado]

I want proof that you're a Christian before I take any of your words into consideration, Mark 17:16 - "These signs will accompany those who believe."They will drive out demons in my name, they will pick up snakes with their bare hands, they will drink poison and be unharmed and they will speak in tongues. So grab some cobras and a mug with some drano!=), and prove to me that YOU are saved, because if that's the requirement I sure as hell am not.

[HisWillBeDone]

Great video. Praise God. :)

[seifer222]

That is a good metaphor. And I can really relate to you, lock577, that's how I feel a lot. I want to believe, I try to believe but I'm just not sure if I am. Thanks for the video, jezuzfreek, it really helped me out, thanks for the question, lock577, and God bless you all. <><

[braundiealte]

Exodus 21:7 - If a man sells his daughter as a female slave, she is not to go free as the male slaves do.

Exodus 35:2 - For six days work may be done, but on the seventh day you shall have a holy day, a sabbath of complete rest to the LORD; whoever does any work on it shall be put to death.

Corinthians 11:14 - Does not even nature itself teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a dishonor to him.

[nic8194]

i could see how this kid is worried about being saved. not only am i worried about that, but im also worried about purgatory and if im SUPPOSED to believe in it in order to be a Christian. and it also scares me that most definitions of Purgatory is a place where most Christians go to when they die

[Catholickid77]

The sacrements help us get the fullness of God. All seven sacrements can be found in the Bible, you don't have to complete all of them to be "saved" but they make it easier to attain salvation. A faith without works is a dead faith.

[bradidup]

Sacraments are Unbiblical!

The word "Sacrament" is NOT even found in the Word of God, nor is it found in the Catholic Bible. The definition of "Sacrament" is: "A formal religious act conferring a specific grace on those who receive it." The teaching is that there is a "power" to the Sacraments. This false teaching is NOT taught in the Bible. The Seven Sacraments of the Catholic religion were first affirmed in 1439 A.D.

[practicingcatholic]

brad, you say the word "sacrament" is not even found in the bible. Whooo! I'm so glad you told me that's how we determine what's true. I am so stupid. I've been thinking the Trinity is true all this time. And the word Trinity is not even in the bible. WOW! LOL -

[bradidup]

The Catholic "sacrament" of confirmation is of the Devil.

It is GOD who gives His Spirit, and NOT men.

Even the wicked Pharisees of Jesus' day were not so arrogant as to claim the power to forgive sin (Luke 5:21), as do Catholic priests in another unbiblical "sacrament" called confession.

The claim that a priest has the power to impart the Holy Spirit to people is blasphemy!

[practicingcatholic]

brad, you're so funny. Of course the Pharises didn't claim to have the power to forgive sins. They were not given the authority. The disciples were. You really need to get a grasp on this scripture thing. LOL

[practicingcatholic]

brad, also I am curious. I see on your site that you have the sinners prayer on there. Where is that in the bible?

[bradidup]

Romans 10 vs 9 & 10 would contain everything that would be said in that prayre. It is a prayre that is ment to be from the heart and not to be rattled off in vein reputition.

"That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

"For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation". (Romans 10 vs 9 & 10 )

[practicingcatholic]

Mt. 18:18 - Truly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

Mt. 16:19 - I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

[practicingcatholic]

cont...Jn. 20:23 - If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.

2 Cor.5:18 - All this is from God, who through Christ reconciled us to Himself and gave us the ministry of reconciliation;

2 Cor.2:10 - Any one whom you forgive, I also forgive. What I have forgiven, if I have forgiven anything, has been for your sake in the presence of Christ,

[practicingcatholic]

cont...

James. 5:16 - Therefore confess your sins to one another,and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The power of a righteous man has great power in its effects.

1 Jn. 1:9 - If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just, and will forgive our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

Here it is clear that we must acknowledge our sins, unlike some who say that our sins are already forgiven.

[bradidup]

When I confess my sins I confess direct to God through Jesus Christ who is my mediator. I dont need any "middle men" to be listening into my personal conversation with the lord, particularly another sinner.

[practicingcatholic]

cont....Mk. 2:7 - Why does this man speak thus? It is blasphemy! Who can forgive sins but God alone?

Here the scribes were pitted against our Lord for forgiving sins. And as you can see from these other verses He has given this authority to the apostles.

[whiteflares]

Everybody is always talking about getting "saved", but what does getting "saved" get you? You are saved = you get heaven-rights? Love that word by the way, it implies that a person needs to be saved from something and that there are two kinds of life: before and after being saved... It has some kind of forcing quality to it for the people who believe in it.

[whiteflares]

That it's a common argument shouldn't tell you it's poor a poor argument, it should tell you that a lot of people acknowledge this information. You can't know that what is written today is how a person once said it, or if he even said it.

[Catholickid77]

Believe me without God there is no salvation, he does get all the credit. No one can work to get into heaven but Christ does expect us to follow his commandments. You can't say "I'm saved" and then go kill a guy and say "Oh it's ok because Jesus died for my sins." It doesn't work that way. You have to have faith in God AND try your absolute best to follow his commandments. Read Matt 31:46.

[jezuzfreek777]

I wish you would decide to support a christian that is actually doing some christian work here on Youtube instead of being a detractor because im not deep enough for you.

[Catholickid77]

You can never KNOW you are "saved". It is an onging struggle throughout life to obtain salvation, BUT we can trust in our savior and hope he will count us among the worthy.

[jezuzfreek777]

christianity does not need to be very deep. God wants us to follow him and the path is easy.

[SheepOfChrist]

But many walk on the broad road.

[CagedSongBird]

Of all your videos, this one touched my heart the most. Thank you.

(((Hugs))) to you...

Paula

[jbooks888]

Here's another thing to remember when those doubts set in - when Jesus died on the cross for our sins, how many sins had we committed? NONE! We weren't born yet. But he already knew what we would do and what the price was before we were even born. We might be disappointed by our own behavior, but God is not - he already knew it!

[alamo11]

very interesting point

[jbooks888]

Hey there JF - I was listening to this vid and watching you on it and I started to drift off zzz ... (sorry) and in this state of semi-consciousness, it occurred to me that if you grew your beard another three inches longer, you would look like Jesus!

[theskepticantidote]

I like your life preserver analogy....

good video

[batmancheesecake]

that verse had me worried. i thought it was harsh sending people to hell even if they believed and went to church.

[LiberateTeExInferis]

"Not everyone who says to me: Lord, Lord! goes to Heaven" You've gotta give your life to Him.

[jbooks888]

True - it's a matter of letting go of your sovereignty and telling God His will comes first - this is why so many people refuse to accept salvation, and even try to deny the existence of God!

[whiteflares]

This is exactly the problem that atheïst people have with this way of life: we see that PEOPLE wrote down the rules you abide. And even if I were a Christian, I would still accept the knowledge that the bible has been dilluted over time, from time telling to when it was written down. That would be a good reason for me not to blindly follow G_d's will.

[james48890743]

thank you so much I love this video I feel so abandon by everyone I love god but have no idea weather he forsake me.

[xnightxamex]

hmmm, sounds like the beginnings of atheism to me. he has two paths. he could read the bible and find something to boost his faith, and live happily as a christian. or he could find nothing, maybe even something to make it worse, and doubt more and more until he's comfortable with his disbelief and sees the religion as a load of bs.

[rd1999]

I thought all you had to do was confess "Jesus is the Christ" and "bingo" you are saved, easy, isn't that what you believe?

[Aedak33]

Telling anyone that are unsaved/lost is morally wrong if you ask me... along the lines of mental abuse.

[Tychicus1769]

Allowing a soul to spend eternity in hell is morally wrong to me.

[Locke577]

Thank you very much for this response. It really helped me with reassuring myself of my beliefs.

[ifrit1780]

you would make a good pastor

[Locke577]

I agree, are you?

[jmorley88]

You should watch

watch?v=z_-XE1ZYr9I

By VenomFangX

Gives you about five criteria to know if you are saved its really goos :)

[Rhjannon]

What do you think of Joel Osteen?

[Tychicus1769]

Fraud. Ignorant carnival barker with no biblical understanding whatsoever.

[jezuzfreek777]

Id be interested in hearing why you feel this way. I dont really listen to Mr. Olsteen but I havnt heard anything to object to yet.

[Rhjannon]

don't you think that you are being harsh? He is a really good and thoughtful motivational person who only tries to help others focus on positivity and not negativity...I listen to him sometimes and I have seen a sermon in person. . .

[Tychicus1769]

Sadly, if the bible were TNT, Joel couldn't blow his nose. What is really harsh is when a soul ends up in hell after sitting in a pew every Sunday for so many years. There is so little proper doctrine coming from his ministry, it is hard for me to credit his "feel good" message with anything other than more book sales.

[SheepOfChrist]

Amen.

[Tychicus1769]

Joel is a "give to get - prosperity" preacher. He's a modern day Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker. Peaches and cream, riches and blessings with Christ. His is a book seller of feel good psychology, not a theologian. Also, he will not commit to Christ's death, burial and resurection being the only way to salvation.

[Tychicus1769]

By the way, it is PRECISELY this method of preaching that leads to doubts, feeling forsaken, and even loss of faith when the promised riches and bliss don't come. God promises all gifts in HEAVENLY places today, NOT here on earth. Joel is a danger to every soul he encounters.

[SheepOfChrist]

Joel is preaching a humanistic gospel.

[Tychicus1769]

P.S. Same for the disasterous theology of Rick Warren.

[practicingcatholic]

Rja, I've only listened to him (Osteena) few times, and what I witnessed during an interview. They tried several times to get his stance on things such as abortion. He would not give an answer. That causes me not to have trust in him. A man of God should never sound like a politician. He should speak the truth and not try to be evasive.

[Rhjannon]

I disagree. We do not necessarily have to know his thoughts on abortion (or a another controversial issue) to except his guidance towards god. I have seen him in person and he is a man of the Lord; his message is one of Positivity and Motivation.

[practicingcatholic]

rhj, I disagree with you. When asked a question, would Jesus avoid the truth? No He spoke the truth no matter what. If you claim to be a follower of His but are affraid to speak the truth, then you are a liar. Abortion is an evil and must be spoken against. He will not say what is true. Therefore, I cannot trust him Osteen).

[Rhjannon]

Just because he does not tell someone how he feels or thinks about "everything" does not mean he is not truthful or a liar. He is honest and his appeal is that he is open to all--as Jesus Christ was and is. Maybe you shouldn't be so narrow yourself.

[practicingcatholic]

Once again. He is not open and honest. He is not like Jesus. Jesus always spoke the truth, even though He was killed for it. Osteen, is a pleaser and doesn't want to lose his followers. He tells people what makes them feel good. He is a motivational speaker like you said. That's not his job as a man of God. His job is to preach the Gospel. I'm sorry you thing Jesus is narrow minded.

[Rhjannon]

Ok- so here we go. . .u are "putting words into my mouth" (& misconstruing my words, as well)! I did not say that Joel was Jesus or that Jesus was narrow minded. I said that YOU ARE narrow minded. And who are you to JUDGE what anybodies job is here on earth. Peace, Rhjannon

[practicingcatholic]

You are saying I'm narrow minded because I believe the truth should always be spoken. That's what Jesus taught. Therefore, you are calling him narrow minded. I cannot judge another's salvation. That does not mean I can't think and discern right from wrong. You really need to read your bible more. Peace be with you.

[Rhjannon]

u make me laugh. thx for that. Butterflies and Bees, Rhjannon P.S. I am pretty confident in my ability to discern what you are really trying to say. . .that you are right and ONLY you can be right. If it makes u feel better I will tell you that u r right; oh yea & I will read my bible more! & I am saying u r narrow because u r--nothing more 2 it!

[practicingcatholic]

Rhj, you know dude, you can act silly or you can just answer a simple question. Did Jesus not answer every question with complete truth? The scriptures says to always have an answer. We are not supposed to ever avoid the truth. We are called to always proclaim it. Scripture also tells us to be Christ like. Now if someone is avoiding telling the truth, does that sound Christ like?  Just think about it.

[Rhjannon]

First of all, I am not a dude. Secondly, I am not avoiding the truth. Thirdly, you are acting self righteous. Forthly, you are not being very "Christ-like". And Finally, my name is Rhjannon(pronounced RE-ANN-ON), not Rhj. . .P.S. I really am enjoying this open discussion. Lovingly, Butterflies & Bees, Rhjannon

[practicingcatholic]

Okay, Rhjannon I shorten the names because when I use full names sometimes it says I'm entering a URL or Email and won't let me proceed with my posts. Dude is just an expression, sorry! But on a serious note. I have a question for you. Do you think abortion is sinful or is okay or is okay in some cases or what? What is your opinion on this matter? Sincerly the person who give you butterflies and bees. Although I'm not sure what that means.

[Rhjannon]

Butterflies and Bees is my "sincerely".U know pc, I wasn't really offended by anything that u wrote( I get "dude" & why u shortened my name & your whole "practicing catholic" speil); I just think that your comments are way too rigid.U want 2 know what I think, so that u can judge me? convert me, further? It is simple- I believe in truth, honesty, God & good, Jesus the man & the holy spirit of the man, & I like Joel Osteen.

[practicingcatholic]

That's what I thought. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that you're pro-choice, which is why you were offended in the first place. So since it is not conducive to have a conversation with someone who will not be open and truthful, I will take my leave. No hard feelings. I just can't continue and I am debating with numerous people at the same time, so I stay busy. But good luck. Peace be with you.

[Rhjannon]

Pt 2: everybody to be like u, see like u, think like u...so here it is smarty pants, I am not what you think I am. R U only "friends" w/people exactly like u? Why can't we get along and openly debate? The issue is really abortion PC, it is whether You can Debate, right?

[Rhjannon]

Pt 3: I AM NOT PRO CHOICE! What do you think about that? Do you approve now?

[theBigTakeover]

what percent of christians are saved jezuz?

[jezuzfreek777]

should be 100% but sadly too many people consider themselves "christian" when they are lost(unsaved)

[Locke577]

Well, in my opinion, true Christians already are saved, it is just a matter of truly accepting Jesus that saves you and makes you Christian.

[JDBDCS]

It's not as much as everbody thanks that it will be.