A slap on the wrist for being a rude, disrespectful pain in the ass would set most of the spoiled brats in this country straight.
We can't do anything to children. We cant say no because thats negative, it doesn't help them grow. This is all part of the Mr. Rogers Generation of everyone is special, everyone always wins and get a prize. Well guess what, thats not fucking reality! Children need to know discipline, disappointment and respect.
There's a difference between discipline and abuse.
I was spanked but it didn't go past a couple of slaps on their rearend. What people don't understand, corporal punishment itself isn't the problem. The problem is when people carry it too far.
i oppose corpral punishment be we as individuals should decide whether or not it should be used. if there is corpral punishment in schools the parents should have to give permision. i consider it wrong to hit somone for anything other than defence but it isn't government's job to enforce my moral oppinions. lastly, in regard to what the bible says, i don't think we should take perenting advice from a book that speaks well of a man for attempting to sacrifice his son.
The problem is parents dont want to be parents anymore, they want the trophy(children) without working for it. They expect teachers to not only educate but also mold their children's behavior
@JamesianDGAF you people don't understand the major difference! abuse is when you are beaten, tied and stripped naked. that isn't corporal punishment! corporal punishment is when parents, yes smack, not abuse, just smack their children once or twice! but they must give the child the reason for why they were hit, if they just do it for the hell of it, then yes it is abuse. But there is a fine line between corporal punishment and abuse that many of you don't understand!
the sad part is that alot of people who are against corporeal punishment have never even been punished like this themselves so they think their helping when actually they dont know wtf they're talking about. Unless they took actual domestic violence and corporeal punishment and mixed definitions...I mean i was punished with a belt, hand, and shoe when i was younger and i turned out fine. I really dont see why people think it will hurt the kids past temporary pain and crying. Reflection follows.
It should be done at home before the children even start school, so the school doesn't have to discipline them. But if the parents can't do the job, well then the school should be abel to.
It can be useful not abuseful like some tend to think. Loss of respect to family and teachers is a huge problem. Parents trying to be their kids friends instead of parents. School was in order and quiet when I attended. It started to really get out of hand when they removed CP. I was a witness to that transition.
I've had to spank my son 5 times. hes 12 years old and respects and loves me like no other. Spanking can be a useful tool in raising a child.. However I always try to talk to him first.. Then if he continues, then its time for a spank. I adopted the surprise spank tactic. I tell you once, if you keep doing it, i don't say anything, i just walk by and "SNAG> (Hard)CRACK!" This effectively makes the verbal warning work. Like i said . 12 y/o.. 5 spanks. Respects and loves me like no other.
If no coporal punishment, keep a record of conduct and throw them out for excessive unruly behavior, make the parents pay for their education some other way. Can't pay for education? Guess you have to break out the old leather strap. .
These poor teachers have to be babysitters for parents who only follow through half the time on their yes and no. So the kids manipulate how much they can get away with. Not all kids are misbehaved or course, but we've all seen a huge increase in violent acts and disrespect in school.
@RobLeveille I question your claim that "we've all seen a huge increase in violent acts and disrespect in school".
People said this in the eighties, the seventies, the sixties, the fifties, and the twenties. Claims such as this are what's known as a moral panic. Have violent acts by students been steadily increasing for the past eighty years? And if they have, why were they increasing when corporal punishment was the norm?
Respect has to be earned, by everyone, including teachers, parents, and all other authority figures. It doesn't just come with age, and it certainly doesn't spring up from beatings.
@jerico641 Sometimes it takes a cp to get your point across...if parents would just spank when the children are young and follow through with what they say, then you can avoid most of this in school.
I don't see how meting out physical violence can improve behavior, except maybe in the short run. I myself find the idea appalling. If parents would concentrate on earning thier children's respect and work with them in promoting and encouraging creative, productive ideas, I believe then they could avoid most discipline problems in school. The most important thing for a child to have is a sense of self worth; most other behavioral traits are based on that.
Forget the religous aspect....look what has happened in schools....teachers are fighting a losing battle, kids think that they are already grown-ups, doing whatever they feel like doing, can't even send them to the dean....they want the teachers to handle it.
I wish they hit me in school I would have had higher gradesand treated teachers better. It takes I villige to rase a child. I bet most of the people commenting dont beat there children or got beat as a child. And if your thinking h ave problem no and my parents and family member did not beat me all the time it was a last resort.
@Forever21plus If you had low grades and treated teachers badly thats your fault. You should've pushed yourself harder to get good grades and make sure you treat teachers right. Its not the teachers fault that you didn't do as well in school as you hoped to. Take responsibility for yourself and your choices. Stop blaming others for your mistakes.
@YouthFreedomFighters Your right because once I hit high school and mutured my grades went up. But I still wonder what my grades would have been like if.... oh never mind you don't understand the cultural aspects of a of corporal punishment (if done the right way) and I only have 219 character left. So I just end with your right.
Everybody I know who was punished for wrong have better manners and are all around behaved more.then people who weren't.My wife didn't get her ass beat but she says she should have.but punishing children because of race and disability is uncalled for.
Kids these days need their asses beat they are out of control they have no respect for authority.Thats why kids these days do what they want.i got my ass beat alot when i was a kid and when i look back i deserved every ass beating i got.People who don't understand obviously didn't get punished when they should have.
Principal with the purple shirt is a fool! This kind of punishment does not work when the person who delivers the undesirable stimulus (i.e., the paddling) is not around. Let's teach kids to threaten with physical harm in order to get them to do what we want instead of teaching them how to consider how their behavior impacts their lives and the lives of others. Let's talk about why kids with disabilities and kids who are diverse are more likely to be padddled. This is discrimination, foolish man
I assume that teachers and administrators will agree that they can be wacked for substandard performances. After all, if they dish it out they should be happy to take it.
@trekkicat yeah your kid might report you to the Child Protective Services you will be fined possible jail time if its severe. Have fun abusing your kids. the Bible said to disipline yes but you dont have to smack them or beat the shit out of them. You could make them work out push ups or sit ups and run cardio. dumbass you are brainwashed extremist fuck people like you make christians look bad
New Mexico has just banned corporal punishment! So now its 31 states that ban it and hopefully more states will follow. Those people who are in favor of CP are really losing badly!
@YouthFreedomFighters AMERICAN TEENS ARE DISRESPECTFUL AND THEY DONT CARE ABOUT SCHOOL SOMEONE NEEDS TO SHOW THEM WHOSE BOSS BY USING CORPORAL PUNISHMENT THATS WHY OTHER COUNTRIES ARE EXELLING IN THERE EDUCATION SYSTEMS BECAUSE THEY ARE STRICT
@isaaccontractor Yeah right, as if any teenager would let somebody paddle them in the first place. I will have you know that most teenagers are big enough and strong enough to stop anybody from paddling them. And besides, what if the teenager is a black belt? What then? Anybody who tries paddling a teenager in that case would be really screwed.
@YouthFreedomFighters a child has no right to fight against an adult, the teacher has his or her superiority over the student weather they like it or not. weather the student is good at karate or wrestling it doesnt matter if they misbehave they have to face the consequence.
@isaaccontractor Thats what you say but the fact remains that there are teenagers who are physically able to stop teachers or other faculty from paddling them. So, if a teenager is physically able to stop someone from paddling them, and if the teenager does just that in such a situation, than what?
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@YouthFreedomFighters even if you are capable you are not allowed to beat or assault an adult older than you if you beat a teacher its like you are beating your parents because the teachers represent your parents and it is written in the bible HONOR THY MOTHER AND THY FATHER this not only refers to your parents even teachers are like parents they teach you how to live like your parents so you are deluded with your violent mind
@isaaccontractor Honor thy father and thy mother would not apply to teachers since they aren't your parents. Unless your mom or dad teaches and you're a student in their class, than they are not your parents. And Im not talking about beating teachers. Such a level of force might not be necessary to stop somebody. A teenager could simply say no and refuse to cooperate about getting paddled.
@isaaccontractor Let me make this clear, TEACHERS ARE NOT PARENTS! Nowhere in the Bible does it say to honor your teachers and nowhere in the Bible does it say for teachers to spank, hit, slap, swat or use any kind of physical punishment.
@YouthFreedomFighters yes teachers are not parents but they are the authority over us the student, a parent is not only the person who gave birth to you a parent can also be someone who takes care of you, teaches you right from wrong. look if you don't want to be disciplined thats your choice but look at how many teens are in jail, look how many teens are dropping out, look how many teen girls are getting pregnant.
@isaaccontractor The teen pregnancy rate in Canada is 1/3 of what it is in the USA and teenagers in Canada don't get in as much trouble. Canada has banned paddling in schools and at the home spanking is only allowed on children who are under 12. Teenagers have already been taught right from wrong and can look after themselves. As i said Honor Thy Father And Thy Mother does not apply to teachers. Teenagers shouldn't need discipline because by that point they've got self discipline.
@YouthFreedomFighters a parent is someone who guides you, and thats what a teacher does on behalf of your parents............. you bloody americans think of corporal punishment as a form of violence well its not there is labor as a form of punishment, e,t,c if you want to be liberal and rebellious so be it, i am a Christian Conservative and fuck you america for not disiplining children
@isaaccontractor As far as what the Bible says about using the rod, the Bible makes it very clear not to use such methods after a child reaches the age of reason, which was commonly considered to be the age of thirteen. Besides, teenagers are at that age where they need to guide themselves and should take responsibility for themselves. You call me rebellious, well Im a freedom fighter and a freedom fighter is a type of rebel so in a way you're right.
Rightly said. The bible is just some goobly gook written in foreign text that was supposed to leave the sheeple in awe at its wonderment. And wonderment was all it was suipposed to achieve. This is why the catholics fought so hard to resist its translation. People in their right minds read and think WTF was that about and how does this effect me. Middle eastern politics poisons our minds.
oh,... and before you claim this is inmate on inmate abuse.... surprisingly, most of this abuse is staff on inmate. Here's the kicker: mostly female correctional staff on male juvenile inmates. ... Southern female correctional staff. so put that in your grits and smoke it!
According to a report released back in, I believe 2008, by the U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS), there are epidemic levels of sexual abuse of prisoners across the United States. At least 88,500 prison and jail inmates were abused in 2007. This report comes out on the heels of the Prison Rape Elimination Act of 2003. Many things are very troubling in this report - please, don't take my word for it. Look it up. Southern facilitiies are disproportionately represented.
kwalk30, Not to get too far off track here, but let's be very clear about something - there are idiots everywhere: North, South, East and West. However, it took the Southern way of thinking, the Southern mentality, so to speak, to put old W in the Whitehouse. He got there precisely because of the Southern vote. That is a fact. He was the governernor of Texas - a Southern state. And, what is this Southern mentality? Well, just check out jpowers55 statement below. And there you have it.
Boys are disproportionately hit with wooden boards (translation: abused), often for the same infractions that only result in non-physical intervention for their sisters.
The map shows that the Southern states like to paddle - more than the other states. That is a fact.
Weapons of mass destruction; Abu Ghraib; Guantanamo; ...blah...blah...blah...
The Southern states made that happen. There is, however, one exception to this oversimplified, yet accurate, algorithm of predictability: West Virginia. I'm not exactly sure if that is considered in the South or the North. All I know is that State manages to scare the world with its lunacy. Wasn't like the whole Abu Ghraib crew from the same trailer park in WV? Sometimes things are simple.
kwalk30: Of course there are intelligent, decent people everywhere. Don't you, however, find it amazing that whenever social issues are examined across the U.S., it never fails that the Southern states tend to disproportionately produce abusive police officers, correctional officers and, appparently, paddle-wielding teachers. One need not look any further in support of this notion than the election of old whats-his-name a few years back. (W). Cheney, Rumsfeld, and bears oh my!
@tbird123able First of all, the Bush family is from Massachusetts and they're a bunch of carpetbaggers, Cheney was born in the mid-west, and Rumsfeld is from Chicago. I could equally argue that it is very interesting that they were all educated, with graduate training, in snobbish "Northerner" universities. Second of all, I see no evidence that there is more abuse of authority in the south than in the north - cite something.
sharkboatfish: But, please... I do understand your frustration. It is a frustration shared by many adult right-wing, "tough-on-crime," people. Hitting the bad guys - or at the least the concept of it -- makes you feel good. Honestly, isn't that true? Isn't that, honestly, why you support the idea of corporal punishment? Sure, maybe it is also conveniently possible that in so doing (hitting the bad guys) there is a chance at reducing recidivism (although that has consistently proven false).
sharkboatfish: It is not as simple as rural kids obey and are good; and city kids disobey and are bad. Try to imagine yourself having a different path... try imagine yourself not having some of the advantages you have had and probably take for granted. Think about the possibility that we are the products of all our influences -- good and bad. Think about the possibility that what appears to be open defiance is sometimes really not. Hitting people doesn't work - even hitting kids.
sharkboatfish: I do understand the point you are trying to make. I sense that maybe you are simply reacting logically to what appears to be the situation you are in and reaching an oversimplified and inaccurate conclusion - that Southern kids obey and are good, Cidy kids disobey and are bad. It isn't that simple. It once made sense to the scientists of the day that the "world" was flat. After all, what other explanation could there be fore looking out and seeing flat land.
Notice the states on the map where it is still legal, and utlilized. Notice the states that once again seem to be lagging on the logic curve of understanding humane intervention - yep, you guessed it.... those southern states are at it again.
I would like to ask someone from down South... are you sort of embarrassed that your state once again seems to be on the wrong side of decency?
@tbird123able I'm a highschool student, I have never been in trouble at school. However there are plenty of jerk off students, who do whatever they want and just get after school detention. I say bring back the paddle, we are too soft on kids who even get as far as breaking the law at school, it would solve the problem. I'm in the southern states, and the kids, and adults form "The South" are not the problem it's the city kids from "The North".
@sharkboatdivefish Stop cutting the world up into "north vs. south" and "city vs. rural." It will go a long way toward convincing people of your perspective if you just argue your point.
@tbird123able I'm from NY and I now live in the south. Since I've moved here I realized that people in the north are very frequently bigoted against the south (myself included when I was growing up), without understanding the first thing about the south or the civil war that began this "north vs. south" attitude. Please do yourself a favor and try to understand before you criticize.
parents, if you dont smack your children when they are out of control, they will take note, and use that against you , they will expect you parent to be all show and no action. the trick is not to let your children think you hate them, or that your love for then is conditional to their behavior. it can be tricky but a balance can be found that doesnt let your children think they can get away with anything nor that they have to live afraid to say something that will earn them a beating.
@simon1812 so should I smack my parents when they're drunk and making an ass out of themselves? or when they act out of control? you train a kid by hitting them they're going to grow up using violence as a means to try settle things. if your kids acting like an idiot make an ass out of them, or embarrass them, show them what they should be doing instead. dont hit them, thats just foolish and petty.
@Ryandidenow first you dont use violence when you only want to"try" you use violence because it is the only thing left to do after saying "please" 3 times without success, society is trying to suppress violence, that foolish alright , it is part of us, it is in our nature, by suppressing it you do the same thing the church did with celibacy vote now you got perverts for priest touching children, they would be no trouble if they were allowed to marry .
... violence shouldnot be suppressed, it should be regulated instead also .embarass them? thats what you suggest to keep children inline? like what? making fun of them? thats worst than hitting them, words hurt with wounds that leaves scars,physical pain? makes you stronger and prepares them, because later in life somebody else will want to hurt them and they will need to be able to take it so they can suckit up and hit back.
@simon1812 Look i respect where your coming from, and i dont want to be some two bit cunt who comes on here and throws around his ideas. and im not the religious type so i dont want to over generalize anything about religions. but my brother grew up with drugs and defiantly and no one ever hit him growing up, and sometimes i wanted to, but he turned out fine, he turned out an educated man, i just think we shouldnt fight fire with fire.
@Ryandidenow I have to say you have truly been blessed , because not many ppl can tell the same history if it stars with "...my brother grew up with drugs..." hey I have some adorable little cousins I dont think they will ever require getting spanked, as well as many others out there, but if you close to the possibility you will be caught off guard and overwhelmed, behavioral guidelines must be established and sometimes enforced,call it tough love if you like.
it all starts with parenting in the home, i didnt disrespect or hate my parents after they whipped me, they also showed me love as well, i learned to OBEY or deal with the consequences, its the liberal idiots out there who tell our kids..YOUR PARENTS CANT TOUCH YOU, ITS ABUSE...thats where the real problem lies, kids these days are given too many dang options, lets get back to old school, I knew if i got paddled at school, id get it again when i got home....I LEARNED
I'm a calm nice person, but God forbid I see/hear that my child was hit, I dont care if it was obama himself, I would beat the living crap out of that person and leave pallet marks all over their body! I'm glad I live in jersey, cuz I wouldn't hold back. No one will be touching my children ever!!! I didnt even know it was still legal in the US, I remember in school my teacher saying it's not legal, I guess she just meant jersey, and I remember thinking, good for her cuz i'd hit her back LOL
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@vickywog so what if your child did something that got them punished in the first place you are supposed to agree with the teacher and tell your child they deserved it so that they can learn from there mistakes
i was reading the comments and i want to say my oppinion on what the bible says about punishment. i dont think that the bible ment that a "rod' was required to raise kids, i think it ment that you should punish kids when they do bad things (hiting kids was probably the norm so it is understandable that it be in the bible).
ps. i am a agnostic theist (just saying so people know my stand on the bible)
@Personmr yah old school ways were a lot worse. but the bible also says that solomon disciplined his son so much that his son turned into a evil tyrant who was almost stoned to death
like someone who is unable to understand why they are geting spanked (pre-schoolers ect.) also i think it should be illegal to hit a minor that you dont have consent from a guardian. i am somwhat agenst the idea of government getting involved in what parents do in there homes; but i still think it is wrong to use physical force when there is no danger to oneself. thats what i think.
my opinion is that corpral punishment should be done away with, but i dont think that kids should be taken away just because they where spanked. i think it is wrong to hit anyone other then for self defence (espesualy when the one getting spanked is alot weaker). i dont disagree that it can be effective but i think that there are better ways to handle dicipline. while im not convinced that it should be flat out illegal to use spanking i think it should be illegal to hit somone who is too young..
@GuitarRockGod951 Unfortunately, I don't think you understand the definitions of the words you want enforced yourself. Enforcing respect does not involve striking children with a wooden board, but it all begins when teachers and other adults model respectful behavior. If teachers and other adults are in the habbit of beating and bullying children, don't be surprised if they immitate the same behaviors they hav witness to themselves or other adults.
Also, while you're there, look up the word discipline. I garentee that hitting children is not part of the definition. I bet it would start like this:
(To instruct/teach). Modern science has shown that hitting doesn't have to be part of discipline and isn't part of discipline to begin with. Hitting children only allows a steam valve to open for adults who can't control their temper. As for your comment on paddling if they screw up, let me point out that we all screw up somewayy in our lives.
@generalcrash777 it doesnt have to be but its a way of getting it across the kid mind not to do it. they say spanking makes kids do it even more? i call bull shit based off of personal experience. i remember when me and my siblings were bad at the mall or somewhere, my mom will take us out to the parking lot at belt us. you can bet that after a while we get smarter. i love watching people scared to hit there kid tell them to stop but they dont listen. put them in time out, they dont stay.
I wouldn't Cry or Beg them. I would just Sull. So that Angered them. Which means they'd beat me harder. This was Assault. But in the 1960's who knew. They should have been Prosecuted. Jailed. Or even Killed for this. But they got away with it. I'd like to drop Nerve Gas on that Town even today. They deserve it. The one's who did it are probably in Nursing Homes or the Cemetary.But maybe I'd Kill some of their Relatives! Time Has No Meaning For Revenge! Evil For Evil! They took something from Me!
I was beaten by My Teachers in a RuralTexasSchool starting in SecondGrade. I say Beaten, Not Spanked. They used a Board that would be Illeagal in Prisons. They left Blood Blisters. It was Sport for them. All based on how much Fear they could instill. Cowards,Thugs,&Bullies. I still don't even remember what it was I did to get that treatment. They didn't like My Family. Why? I don't know? Which means they didn't like Me. Now I'm Quite the Sociopath! A Trained Killer. I'mGood at it!
Cp is not necessary for the most part. A parent that takes a lot of opportunity to give a kind word pat on the back when the kid is doing right/behaving/studing. Then you won’t have many occasion to have use unkind word and sit the kid in a corner. Most parents are just to busy to have kids in the first place
@TheSpiffyGamer Because the Bible commands that adults not to withold the rod of correction in Proverbs or the child will go to hell. IF you need to learn anything about the Bible, try watching Pastor John Hagee. He is the best. Also read Dare to Discipline by James Dobson. great reading
@WTREPUBLICAN Thats the most retardingly offensive shit I have ever heard. Beating your kid so he dosent go to hell. First of all there is no hell, and corporal punishment dosent work at all.
it isnt the education systems place or responsibility to correct kids like that its the parents but alot of people are just not fit to be parents and this whole be fruitful nonsense really gets on my nerves when we have so many kids getting truly abused by there parents .
Spanking is sexual abuse. The buttocks are so close to the genitals and so multiply linked to sexual nerve centers, striking them can trigger powerful and involuntary sexual stimulus in some people. How on earth do this people think it's apropiate to touch a student's butt? This is considered sexual abuse in other places, why not there?
@mickey3348 Yes you're right, and this is especially true if such methods are used with teenagers when hormones are in full swing. Spanking a teenager is no different than rape.
@Christoph777 Thank you, I cannot believe they are letting pervert teachers touch student's butt, what if the principal has a spanking fetish? Poor kids...Thank goodness I live in a more civilized place...Have a nice day.
@bluewolverine40 Bluewolverine Ive trained with Navy SEALS on how to fight and I would personally beat the hell out of any teacher or administrator that tried to paddle me, and I would put them in the hospital!
How about you just behave yourself so you don't need to be paddled in the first place? Show respect, work hard to do your best, and there are no problems.
... besides, not too many school-aged children have trained with Navy SEALS... duh.
@MALIBUMANDY714 Generally I do behave myself, ect. but even if I didn't, a high school student is too old to be paddled. Speaking of which, I've heard of high school students being paddled for such mild infractions as being late to class or not having their shirt tucked in. A teenager is too old to be spanked by their parents and by school administrators. As for training with SEALS, there are programs that any civilian can sign up for, if you know where to find it and if you can afford it.
Yes, high schoolers are too old for spanking to be reliable or effective. And I've seen such training courses. You need to be 21 to attend or get parental permission and a waiver/release. And if my kid were out of control at school, I'm not sure it's too smart to train him how to kill someone with a pinecone or a water bottle.
And if you were in school and found in need of corrective paddling, you would go to juvenile detention for 'beating the hell out of a teacher'.
@MALIBUMANDY714 As for those programs, there are people in their teens that attend some of those programs. Aside from that, there are SEALS that open martial arts schools after a career in the military, so a local martial arts school can teach all that stuff, although they don't teach much how to kill with pinecones, not when you can kill with your bare hands. They do teach defenses against knives, gun's, ect. and they even teach how disarm and turn somebody's own weapon against them.
I'm totally against corporal punishment for nearly all offenses - but it may be the only solution for bullying. Bullying in schools is the one offense that is not taken anywhere near as seriously as it should be. If the victim was an adult it would be treated as criminal assault. Bullying is the main cause of teen suicide. People bully to acquire status so punishment needs to remove that status and cause public humiliation. If that fails then exclusion and psychiatric treatment is needed.
Spankings work in my household. How are the kids gonna learn to respect authority? If a kid acts up, the teacher needs to be able to tear that ass up. My kids are kept in line because all I need to do is to point to my belt buckle with the emblem of the state of texas and they listen right quick!
Not sure the teacher should have that much power. Dealing with 25-30 kids is stressful enough and who knows if that teacher remains calm enough to not lose control while spanking my kid?
I guess I don't want to put that kind of pressure on the teacher. Send a note home and I'll deal with it.
@MALIBUMANDY714 he or she should have all the power she needs for classroom discipline period of course the rethuglicans want all private school for the elites of the nation anyway so they dont give shit
I agree about the authority to have someone paddled, but I wouldn't give the responsibility for actually doing it to her. Send a note home to me, or send the kid to the office for the paddling. Give him time to think about his screw up, and the principal will be even-handed because he's not personalizing the bad kid's behavior.
@Christoph777 Look Boy, we don't take that back talk down here. Maybe you need a spanking. Only problem is that there are guys now that enjoy that kind of stuff. Kids need good old fashoined discipline. deep down they yearn for it. Read Dr. Dobson's book Strong Willed Child. He is an expert in disciplining children.
@WTREPUBLICAN Right, and even James Dobson says that teenagers shouldn't be spanked. Spanking small children is one thing but teenagers are too old, and a teenager can go to the police.
@Christoph777 James Dobson is wrong about that. Teenagers need it even more since they are growing into men and they naturally think that they can challenge what the teachers and parents are saying. Sometimes you need to give them a loving whuppin so they will respect authority. If you do not give a teenager a whuppin when he needs it, he will undoubtedly get a whuppin from a police officer eventually. and that may include getting shot or tazed. Isn't it better to make them respect before hand?
@WTREPUBLICAN There is nothing loving about giving a "whuppin" to a teenager. They're too old, and teenagers have a right to their bodies. Furthermore, a teenaer probably wont let somebody give them a "whuppin." Trying to spank someone whose got an adult sized body is just outright absurd and is done in porn. Be sensible to spank someone you have to be physically able to or they would have to let you. And its you who would get it from the police if you spank a teenager, especially if its a girl.
@Christoph777 Then how is the kid gonna learn right from wrong? How is the kid going to repsect authority? What are you going to do? talk to them? That is a waste of time. IF they do not fear authority, they will break the rules.
@WTREPUBLICAN Kids should learn that before they hit the teen years. By the time a child is a teenager they will know right from wrong if they're brought up proper the first 12 years of life. We dont spank criminals. With teenagers there are other methods of punishment, grounding, detention, ect. Fear is the tool of a bully and people in authority that use fear are just bullies that abuse their positions, and besides if the teenager doesn't let anybody spank them or goes to the police than what?
@Christoph777 You are right, it is important to give young children hard discipline so they learn to fear authority and will behave as teenagers. However, what do you do if they are not brought up proper? What do you do if punishment, grounding, detention don't work. Hell, some of these kids laugh at you if you give them detention. At some point you gotta get physical. All Im saying is why waste time will all that other stuff when you can go right to spanking and get the job done right quick ?
@WTREPUBLICAN If you don't bring them up proper before they're teenagers than you have missed the boat. If grounding and detention don't work than other means must be used but getting physical is not one of those means, it is simply not an option. A boss can demote, suspend, even fire employees but can't get physical with them. Getting physical with teenagers most likely will get you in trouble with the law.
@Christoph777 By the way no teenager wants his ass whupped but it is not his choice. The adults have to act like adults and be willing to dish out a little punishment now and then. Fear is the best motivator. If the child doesn't fear the adult's POWER, then he will not repsect the adult. The best thing my dad did for me was to make me fight him when I was 14. He beat me senseless but I learned that even though I was getting bigger, I was not the boss of the house. Kids need to learn respect.
@WTREPUBLICAN Usually it is the teenager's choice. The teenager can simply not let anybody "whup" him. As for your dad beating you senseless at 14, too bad you didn't know karate. Your dad just sounds like a big bully. As for me, I've trained with Navy SEALS and I can destroy anybody that tries to "whup" me. Hopefully it never comes to that because nobody tries in the first place.
@WTREPUBLICAN Furthermore a teenager can use a weapon. I know a case of a teenager whose stepdad tried to "whup" him and he let his stepdad have it with a baseball bat. Some teenagers will even use guns, BANG! Than what?
@WTREPUBLICAN the worst thing you can do with a teenager is not talk to them like an adult if you say just cuz i said so they are going to rationalize teir whay around your rules fear doesnt motivate anyone i have never done anthing because i was afraid i hav however done things out of spite..BB's in oil of step D's 59 chevy appache.. i grew up in an abusive home i fought most of my stepdads but it wasnt until i had a better reason than BECAUSE I SAY SO to follow the rules that i did
@acewizhyde BECAUSE I SAY SO. Is how society works? The boss pays you to do what he says not to engage in an intellectual debate. In Proverbs it says not to withold the rod of correction or your child will go to hell. Powerful stuff. Fear is a great motivator because the kid fears the ass whuppin, so he does what you tell him to. A good whuppin now and then is not abuse. Abuse is when you beat a child for no reason. Dr. Dobson says that you must not beat a child out of anger.
@WTREPUBLICAN lol you're a moron... i pay my employees to find the best way to do the job that needs to be done for the benifit of the company i trust their judgement and treat them like adults who are capable of framing their own rational thoughts i dont think for them no more than a coach needs to tell a runningback where to run. and for the bible bullshit how bout this one from your "bible" He that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death.--Ex.21:17 so kill your kid
@WTREPUBLICAN" a man resorts to violence only when he runs out of ideas" lao-tzu ive been a stepdad for 17 years and have never had to raise my hand to her kids... ever nether has she yea they mess up they get in trrouble but they take the conseqences of their actions
@WTREPUBLICAN as for fearing an ass whuppin well my step dad used to beat me no not ass whuppin try broken orbital socket at 12 because i broke a dish while washing them just to name an instance well i got to a point i didnt fear an ass whuppin and took a baseball bat and broke both his arms... violence makes people violent push a person enough and people push back its a fact jst because your weak ass submitted to your dad like a dog dont mean everyone is weak willed like you
It does work you didnt used to have mouthy kids when my parents were in school. And after you were paddled in school you were paddled again when you got home when your parents found out
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Christopher711 4 hours ago
A slap on the wrist for being a rude, disrespectful pain in the ass would set most of the spoiled brats in this country straight.
We can't do anything to children. We cant say no because thats negative, it doesn't help them grow. This is all part of the Mr. Rogers Generation of everyone is special, everyone always wins and get a prize. Well guess what, thats not fucking reality! Children need to know discipline, disappointment and respect.
There's a difference between discipline and abuse.
bariguy87 19 hours ago
hmmm what if its a hot girl teacher then would it be ok lol
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kirbysawyer25 6 days ago
I was spanked but it didn't go past a couple of slaps on their rearend. What people don't understand, corporal punishment itself isn't the problem. The problem is when people carry it too far.
connerjd 3 weeks ago
This video is a favorite on Tarawa Atoll
usabbott48g 1 month ago
i oppose corpral punishment be we as individuals should decide whether or not it should be used. if there is corpral punishment in schools the parents should have to give permision. i consider it wrong to hit somone for anything other than defence but it isn't government's job to enforce my moral oppinions. lastly, in regard to what the bible says, i don't think we should take perenting advice from a book that speaks well of a man for attempting to sacrifice his son.
Personmr 1 month ago
@Personmr
The story about Abraham is a bit more complicated than that comment you just made and shows you know nothing about it
bariguy87 1 day ago
@Personmr
The problem is parents dont want to be parents anymore, they want the trophy(children) without working for it. They expect teachers to not only educate but also mold their children's behavior
bariguy87 19 hours ago
@JamesianDGAF you people don't understand the major difference! abuse is when you are beaten, tied and stripped naked. that isn't corporal punishment! corporal punishment is when parents, yes smack, not abuse, just smack their children once or twice! but they must give the child the reason for why they were hit, if they just do it for the hell of it, then yes it is abuse. But there is a fine line between corporal punishment and abuse that many of you don't understand!
pinoy136 1 month ago
@pinoy136
Here here! Right on
bariguy87 19 hours ago
the sad part is that alot of people who are against corporeal punishment have never even been punished like this themselves so they think their helping when actually they dont know wtf they're talking about. Unless they took actual domestic violence and corporeal punishment and mixed definitions...I mean i was punished with a belt, hand, and shoe when i was younger and i turned out fine. I really dont see why people think it will hurt the kids past temporary pain and crying. Reflection follows.
Viataf 1 month ago
It should be done at home before the children even start school, so the school doesn't have to discipline them. But if the parents can't do the job, well then the school should be abel to.
RobLeveille 2 months ago
It can be useful not abuseful like some tend to think. Loss of respect to family and teachers is a huge problem. Parents trying to be their kids friends instead of parents. School was in order and quiet when I attended. It started to really get out of hand when they removed CP. I was a witness to that transition.
RobLeveille 2 months ago
I'd rather get spanked than do detention
chrischoy9 2 months ago
I've had to spank my son 5 times. hes 12 years old and respects and loves me like no other. Spanking can be a useful tool in raising a child.. However I always try to talk to him first.. Then if he continues, then its time for a spank. I adopted the surprise spank tactic. I tell you once, if you keep doing it, i don't say anything, i just walk by and "SNAG> (Hard)CRACK!" This effectively makes the verbal warning work. Like i said . 12 y/o.. 5 spanks. Respects and loves me like no other.
Ravalat 2 months ago
@Ravalat
Yeah, sure, if you say so...
jerico641 2 months ago
@jerico641 I do say so... now go to your room.
Ravalat 2 months ago
@Ravalat
I'll do that; but after all that grabbing and smacking, I'll be in there plotting revenge..
jerico641 2 months ago
@jerico641 Son, never throw a punch at a redwood! lol
Ravalat 2 months ago
If no coporal punishment, keep a record of conduct and throw them out for excessive unruly behavior, make the parents pay for their education some other way. Can't pay for education? Guess you have to break out the old leather strap. .
RobLeveille 2 months ago
These poor teachers have to be babysitters for parents who only follow through half the time on their yes and no. So the kids manipulate how much they can get away with. Not all kids are misbehaved or course, but we've all seen a huge increase in violent acts and disrespect in school.
RobLeveille 2 months ago
@RobLeveille I question your claim that "we've all seen a huge increase in violent acts and disrespect in school".
People said this in the eighties, the seventies, the sixties, the fifties, and the twenties. Claims such as this are what's known as a moral panic. Have violent acts by students been steadily increasing for the past eighty years? And if they have, why were they increasing when corporal punishment was the norm?
patrickthesaint 2 months ago
@RobLeveille
Respect has to be earned, by everyone, including teachers, parents, and all other authority figures. It doesn't just come with age, and it certainly doesn't spring up from beatings.
jerico641 2 months ago
@jerico641 Sometimes it takes a cp to get your point across...if parents would just spank when the children are young and follow through with what they say, then you can avoid most of this in school.
RobLeveille 2 months ago
@RobLeveille
I don't see how meting out physical violence can improve behavior, except maybe in the short run. I myself find the idea appalling. If parents would concentrate on earning thier children's respect and work with them in promoting and encouraging creative, productive ideas, I believe then they could avoid most discipline problems in school. The most important thing for a child to have is a sense of self worth; most other behavioral traits are based on that.
jerico641 2 months ago
Forget the religous aspect....look what has happened in schools....teachers are fighting a losing battle, kids think that they are already grown-ups, doing whatever they feel like doing, can't even send them to the dean....they want the teachers to handle it.
RobLeveille 2 months ago
@RobLeveille
The "religious aspect"; what's that?
jerico641 2 months ago
In the USA if a teacher tried this to an adult, the adult within their right to defend could respond with some hard knuckle.
So then that only leave one point remaining, Why do they do it to children?
Is because children are defensless. Weak fuckers.
Rand0mManic 3 months ago
I wish they hit me in school I would have had higher gradesand treated teachers better. It takes I villige to rase a child. I bet most of the people commenting dont beat there children or got beat as a child. And if your thinking h ave problem no and my parents and family member did not beat me all the time it was a last resort.
Forever21plus 4 months ago
@Forever21plus If you had low grades and treated teachers badly thats your fault. You should've pushed yourself harder to get good grades and make sure you treat teachers right. Its not the teachers fault that you didn't do as well in school as you hoped to. Take responsibility for yourself and your choices. Stop blaming others for your mistakes.
YouthFreedomFighters 4 months ago
@YouthFreedomFighters Your right because once I hit high school and mutured my grades went up. But I still wonder what my grades would have been like if.... oh never mind you don't understand the cultural aspects of a of corporal punishment (if done the right way) and I only have 219 character left. So I just end with your right.
Forever21plus 4 months ago
in sweden it's been illegal for all adults to hit and spank their children for decades and it works just fine with other punishments.
ratmrulesyou1 4 months ago
@ratmrulesyou1 I am curious. How do Swedish schools deal with misbehaving kids? Detention? Extra homework? Other?
Christopher711 4 hours ago
Plenty of ways to punish besides spanking.
connerjd 5 months ago
Article: Corporal Punishment - Discipline
Canadian Counselling and Psychotherapy Association
ccpa-accp.ca/blog/?p=956
You ought to read this article on Corporal Punishment and Discipline
DrAsaDonBrown 5 months ago
So... can the President of the United States paddle all members of Congress or just the ones from the 19 states who support corporal punishment ?
schenkel123 5 months ago 3
Everybody I know who was punished for wrong have better manners and are all around behaved more.then people who weren't.My wife didn't get her ass beat but she says she should have.but punishing children because of race and disability is uncalled for.
deerdestroyer2009 5 months ago
Kids these days need their asses beat they are out of control they have no respect for authority.Thats why kids these days do what they want.i got my ass beat alot when i was a kid and when i look back i deserved every ass beating i got.People who don't understand obviously didn't get punished when they should have.
deerdestroyer2009 5 months ago
WAIT WHAT YEAR ARE WE IN
edwardd668 6 months ago
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U know y asians r smarter?
because of this.
American teens are disrespectful to their elders (teachers) and will further carry out this bad attitude into the working world.
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HE WHO SPARES THE ROD HATES HIS SON BUT HE WHO LOVES HIM IS CAREFUL TO DISCIPLINE HIM. PROVERBS 13:24
isaaccontractor 6 months ago
It's legal to hit children for being children, man the world we live in today
blackandwhiteangel13 8 months ago 3
so what stops your kids from fighting back?
Armando623 8 months ago
@Armando623 Exaxctly Armando, however fighting back might not be necessary. Sometimes a kid can simply say no and not cooperate.
YouthFreedomFighters 6 months ago
Principal with the purple shirt is a fool! This kind of punishment does not work when the person who delivers the undesirable stimulus (i.e., the paddling) is not around. Let's teach kids to threaten with physical harm in order to get them to do what we want instead of teaching them how to consider how their behavior impacts their lives and the lives of others. Let's talk about why kids with disabilities and kids who are diverse are more likely to be padddled. This is discrimination, foolish man
privatepile762 8 months ago
I assume that teachers and administrators will agree that they can be wacked for substandard performances. After all, if they dish it out they should be happy to take it.
hopethrows 8 months ago 3
I hope that mother saves up enough money to bail her son out of jail once he's an adult.
lakebay972 8 months ago
it lasts until adulthood thats for sure. i was beaten tied and stripped naked when i was 6 years old. fuck Corporal Punishment
God doesnt like it when you abuse his children
JamesianDGAF 9 months ago 8
@JamesianDGAF Your god did that to you. He allowed you to be humiliated. You must have done something wrong to anger him so.
deadithink 9 months ago
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@JamesianDGAF
in the Bible it is allowed for parents to hit their kids if necessary
trekkicat 8 months ago
@trekkicat yeah your kid might report you to the Child Protective Services you will be fined possible jail time if its severe. Have fun abusing your kids. the Bible said to disipline yes but you dont have to smack them or beat the shit out of them. You could make them work out push ups or sit ups and run cardio. dumbass you are brainwashed extremist fuck people like you make christians look bad
JamesianDGAF 8 months ago
@JamesianDGAF
Thats not corporal punishment, thats abuse
bariguy87 19 hours ago
haha, they are all southern states
FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 9 months ago 4
New Mexico has just banned corporal punishment! So now its 31 states that ban it and hopefully more states will follow. Those people who are in favor of CP are really losing badly!
YouthFreedomFighters 9 months ago 16
@YouthFreedomFighters AMERICAN TEENS ARE DISRESPECTFUL AND THEY DONT CARE ABOUT SCHOOL SOMEONE NEEDS TO SHOW THEM WHOSE BOSS BY USING CORPORAL PUNISHMENT THATS WHY OTHER COUNTRIES ARE EXELLING IN THERE EDUCATION SYSTEMS BECAUSE THEY ARE STRICT
isaaccontractor 6 months ago
@isaaccontractor Yeah right, as if any teenager would let somebody paddle them in the first place. I will have you know that most teenagers are big enough and strong enough to stop anybody from paddling them. And besides, what if the teenager is a black belt? What then? Anybody who tries paddling a teenager in that case would be really screwed.
YouthFreedomFighters 6 months ago
@YouthFreedomFighters a child has no right to fight against an adult, the teacher has his or her superiority over the student weather they like it or not. weather the student is good at karate or wrestling it doesnt matter if they misbehave they have to face the consequence.
isaaccontractor 6 months ago
@isaaccontractor Thats what you say but the fact remains that there are teenagers who are physically able to stop teachers or other faculty from paddling them. So, if a teenager is physically able to stop someone from paddling them, and if the teenager does just that in such a situation, than what?
YouthFreedomFighters 6 months ago
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@YouthFreedomFighters even if you are capable you are not allowed to beat or assault an adult older than you if you beat a teacher its like you are beating your parents because the teachers represent your parents and it is written in the bible HONOR THY MOTHER AND THY FATHER this not only refers to your parents even teachers are like parents they teach you how to live like your parents so you are deluded with your violent mind
isaaccontractor 6 months ago
@isaaccontractor Honor thy father and thy mother would not apply to teachers since they aren't your parents. Unless your mom or dad teaches and you're a student in their class, than they are not your parents. And Im not talking about beating teachers. Such a level of force might not be necessary to stop somebody. A teenager could simply say no and refuse to cooperate about getting paddled.
YouthFreedomFighters 6 months ago
@isaaccontractor Let me make this clear, TEACHERS ARE NOT PARENTS! Nowhere in the Bible does it say to honor your teachers and nowhere in the Bible does it say for teachers to spank, hit, slap, swat or use any kind of physical punishment.
YouthFreedomFighters 6 months ago 7
@YouthFreedomFighters yes teachers are not parents but they are the authority over us the student, a parent is not only the person who gave birth to you a parent can also be someone who takes care of you, teaches you right from wrong. look if you don't want to be disciplined thats your choice but look at how many teens are in jail, look how many teens are dropping out, look how many teen girls are getting pregnant.
isaaccontractor 6 months ago
@isaaccontractor The teen pregnancy rate in Canada is 1/3 of what it is in the USA and teenagers in Canada don't get in as much trouble. Canada has banned paddling in schools and at the home spanking is only allowed on children who are under 12. Teenagers have already been taught right from wrong and can look after themselves. As i said Honor Thy Father And Thy Mother does not apply to teachers. Teenagers shouldn't need discipline because by that point they've got self discipline.
YouthFreedomFighters 6 months ago 6
@YouthFreedomFighters Dude. I am not for or against corporal punishment BUT STOP TALKING ABOUT A STUPID FANTASY BOOK!
MrWsad 6 months ago
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MrWsad 6 months ago
@YouthFreedomFighters Dude. I am not for or against corporal punishment BUT STOP TALKING ABOUT A STUPID FANTASY BOOK!
MrWsad 6 months ago
@YouthFreedomFighters Spare the rod spoil the child doesn't straight up say spanking.
connerjd 5 months ago
@YouthFreedomFighters a parent is someone who guides you, and thats what a teacher does on behalf of your parents............. you bloody americans think of corporal punishment as a form of violence well its not there is labor as a form of punishment, e,t,c if you want to be liberal and rebellious so be it, i am a Christian Conservative and fuck you america for not disiplining children
isaaccontractor 4 months ago
@isaaccontractor As far as what the Bible says about using the rod, the Bible makes it very clear not to use such methods after a child reaches the age of reason, which was commonly considered to be the age of thirteen. Besides, teenagers are at that age where they need to guide themselves and should take responsibility for themselves. You call me rebellious, well Im a freedom fighter and a freedom fighter is a type of rebel so in a way you're right.
YouthFreedomFighters 4 months ago
@YouthFreedomFighters Who cares what bible says? It's just a book.
MrWsad 4 months ago
@MrWsad Some people care.
YouthFreedomFighters 4 months ago
@MrWsad
Rightly said. The bible is just some goobly gook written in foreign text that was supposed to leave the sheeple in awe at its wonderment. And wonderment was all it was suipposed to achieve. This is why the catholics fought so hard to resist its translation. People in their right minds read and think WTF was that about and how does this effect me. Middle eastern politics poisons our minds.
Christs bible is actually very antisemetic.
Rand0mManic 3 months ago
@YouthFreedomFighters the bible also says to stone your children if they disobey you... not a good source for child rearing practices at all
fmesa8704 3 months ago
@YouthFreedomFighters
Yeah and look at how children behave, worse than ever. Plenty of us got spanked as kids and we're fine.
bariguy87 1 day ago
@bariguy87 Plenty of people smoke and don't get lung cancer, it doesn't mean that smoking is a good healthy idea.
YouthFreedomFighters 1 day ago
@YouthFreedomFighters
That is a pathetic and stupid comparison.
bariguy87 19 hours ago
Discipline, remember to act responsibly kids don't fool around
Stavol2Dual 9 months ago
oh,... and before you claim this is inmate on inmate abuse.... surprisingly, most of this abuse is staff on inmate. Here's the kicker: mostly female correctional staff on male juvenile inmates. ... Southern female correctional staff. so put that in your grits and smoke it!
tbird123able 10 months ago
According to a report released back in, I believe 2008, by the U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS), there are epidemic levels of sexual abuse of prisoners across the United States. At least 88,500 prison and jail inmates were abused in 2007. This report comes out on the heels of the Prison Rape Elimination Act of 2003. Many things are very troubling in this report - please, don't take my word for it. Look it up. Southern facilitiies are disproportionately represented.
tbird123able 10 months ago
kwalk30, Not to get too far off track here, but let's be very clear about something - there are idiots everywhere: North, South, East and West. However, it took the Southern way of thinking, the Southern mentality, so to speak, to put old W in the Whitehouse. He got there precisely because of the Southern vote. That is a fact. He was the governernor of Texas - a Southern state. And, what is this Southern mentality? Well, just check out jpowers55 statement below. And there you have it.
tbird123able 10 months ago
Do what ur told and u wont get that ass beat. Simple.
jpowers55 10 months ago
Boys are disproportionately hit with wooden boards (translation: abused), often for the same infractions that only result in non-physical intervention for their sisters.
The map shows that the Southern states like to paddle - more than the other states. That is a fact.
tbird123able 10 months ago
And it is simply clear that hitting kids with wooden boards is immoral, ineffective and, well,... just stupid.
tbird123able 10 months ago
Weapons of mass destruction; Abu Ghraib; Guantanamo; ...blah...blah...blah...
The Southern states made that happen. There is, however, one exception to this oversimplified, yet accurate, algorithm of predictability: West Virginia. I'm not exactly sure if that is considered in the South or the North. All I know is that State manages to scare the world with its lunacy. Wasn't like the whole Abu Ghraib crew from the same trailer park in WV? Sometimes things are simple.
tbird123able 10 months ago
kwalk30: Of course there are intelligent, decent people everywhere. Don't you, however, find it amazing that whenever social issues are examined across the U.S., it never fails that the Southern states tend to disproportionately produce abusive police officers, correctional officers and, appparently, paddle-wielding teachers. One need not look any further in support of this notion than the election of old whats-his-name a few years back. (W). Cheney, Rumsfeld, and bears oh my!
tbird123able 10 months ago
@tbird123able First of all, the Bush family is from Massachusetts and they're a bunch of carpetbaggers, Cheney was born in the mid-west, and Rumsfeld is from Chicago. I could equally argue that it is very interesting that they were all educated, with graduate training, in snobbish "Northerner" universities. Second of all, I see no evidence that there is more abuse of authority in the south than in the north - cite something.
kwalk30 10 months ago
I'd love to see how they controlled these so called studies....
kwalk30 10 months ago
sharkboatfish: But, please... I do understand your frustration. It is a frustration shared by many adult right-wing, "tough-on-crime," people. Hitting the bad guys - or at the least the concept of it -- makes you feel good. Honestly, isn't that true? Isn't that, honestly, why you support the idea of corporal punishment? Sure, maybe it is also conveniently possible that in so doing (hitting the bad guys) there is a chance at reducing recidivism (although that has consistently proven false).
tbird123able 11 months ago
sharkboatfish: It is not as simple as rural kids obey and are good; and city kids disobey and are bad. Try to imagine yourself having a different path... try imagine yourself not having some of the advantages you have had and probably take for granted. Think about the possibility that we are the products of all our influences -- good and bad. Think about the possibility that what appears to be open defiance is sometimes really not. Hitting people doesn't work - even hitting kids.
tbird123able 11 months ago
sharkboatfish: I do understand the point you are trying to make. I sense that maybe you are simply reacting logically to what appears to be the situation you are in and reaching an oversimplified and inaccurate conclusion - that Southern kids obey and are good, Cidy kids disobey and are bad. It isn't that simple. It once made sense to the scientists of the day that the "world" was flat. After all, what other explanation could there be fore looking out and seeing flat land.
tbird123able 11 months ago
Notice the states on the map where it is still legal, and utlilized. Notice the states that once again seem to be lagging on the logic curve of understanding humane intervention - yep, you guessed it.... those southern states are at it again.
I would like to ask someone from down South... are you sort of embarrassed that your state once again seems to be on the wrong side of decency?
tbird123able 11 months ago
@tbird123able I'm a highschool student, I have never been in trouble at school. However there are plenty of jerk off students, who do whatever they want and just get after school detention. I say bring back the paddle, we are too soft on kids who even get as far as breaking the law at school, it would solve the problem. I'm in the southern states, and the kids, and adults form "The South" are not the problem it's the city kids from "The North".
sharkboatdivefish 11 months ago
@sharkboatdivefish Stop cutting the world up into "north vs. south" and "city vs. rural." It will go a long way toward convincing people of your perspective if you just argue your point.
kwalk30 10 months ago
@kwalk30 Trying to prove a point to tbird123able
sharkboatdivefish 10 months ago
@tbird123able I'm from NY and I now live in the south. Since I've moved here I realized that people in the north are very frequently bigoted against the south (myself included when I was growing up), without understanding the first thing about the south or the civil war that began this "north vs. south" attitude. Please do yourself a favor and try to understand before you criticize.
kwalk30 10 months ago
parents, if you dont smack your children when they are out of control, they will take note, and use that against you , they will expect you parent to be all show and no action. the trick is not to let your children think you hate them, or that your love for then is conditional to their behavior. it can be tricky but a balance can be found that doesnt let your children think they can get away with anything nor that they have to live afraid to say something that will earn them a beating.
simon1812 11 months ago
@simon1812 so should I smack my parents when they're drunk and making an ass out of themselves? or when they act out of control? you train a kid by hitting them they're going to grow up using violence as a means to try settle things. if your kids acting like an idiot make an ass out of them, or embarrass them, show them what they should be doing instead. dont hit them, thats just foolish and petty.
Ryandidenow 11 months ago
@Ryandidenow first you dont use violence when you only want to"try" you use violence because it is the only thing left to do after saying "please" 3 times without success, society is trying to suppress violence, that foolish alright , it is part of us, it is in our nature, by suppressing it you do the same thing the church did with celibacy vote now you got perverts for priest touching children, they would be no trouble if they were allowed to marry .
simon1812 11 months ago
... violence shouldnot be suppressed, it should be regulated instead also .embarass them? thats what you suggest to keep children inline? like what? making fun of them? thats worst than hitting them, words hurt with wounds that leaves scars,physical pain? makes you stronger and prepares them, because later in life somebody else will want to hurt them and they will need to be able to take it so they can suckit up and hit back.
simon1812 11 months ago
@simon1812 Look i respect where your coming from, and i dont want to be some two bit cunt who comes on here and throws around his ideas. and im not the religious type so i dont want to over generalize anything about religions. but my brother grew up with drugs and defiantly and no one ever hit him growing up, and sometimes i wanted to, but he turned out fine, he turned out an educated man, i just think we shouldnt fight fire with fire.
Ryandidenow 11 months ago
@Ryandidenow I have to say you have truly been blessed , because not many ppl can tell the same history if it stars with "...my brother grew up with drugs..." hey I have some adorable little cousins I dont think they will ever require getting spanked, as well as many others out there, but if you close to the possibility you will be caught off guard and overwhelmed, behavioral guidelines must be established and sometimes enforced,call it tough love if you like.
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@Ryandidenow HE WHO SPARES THE ROD HATES HIS SON BUT HE WHO LOVES HIM IS CAREFUL TO DISCIPLINE HIM. PROVERBS 13:24
isaaccontractor 6 months ago
it all starts with parenting in the home, i didnt disrespect or hate my parents after they whipped me, they also showed me love as well, i learned to OBEY or deal with the consequences, its the liberal idiots out there who tell our kids..YOUR PARENTS CANT TOUCH YOU, ITS ABUSE...thats where the real problem lies, kids these days are given too many dang options, lets get back to old school, I knew if i got paddled at school, id get it again when i got home....I LEARNED
maddy22042001 11 months ago
"thank you sir, may i have another?"
ZOSOrulz1 11 months ago
I'm a calm nice person, but God forbid I see/hear that my child was hit, I dont care if it was obama himself, I would beat the living crap out of that person and leave pallet marks all over their body! I'm glad I live in jersey, cuz I wouldn't hold back. No one will be touching my children ever!!! I didnt even know it was still legal in the US, I remember in school my teacher saying it's not legal, I guess she just meant jersey, and I remember thinking, good for her cuz i'd hit her back LOL
vickywog 1 year ago
@vickywog i would let obama hit my kid
paulinotou 11 months ago
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@vickywog so what if your child did something that got them punished in the first place you are supposed to agree with the teacher and tell your child they deserved it so that they can learn from there mistakes
isaaccontractor 6 months ago
Corporal punishment is wrong! Its all about the capitol punishment.
..just kidding..
rajy09 1 year ago
We need it in the UK.
milojohn94 1 year ago
i was reading the comments and i want to say my oppinion on what the bible says about punishment. i dont think that the bible ment that a "rod' was required to raise kids, i think it ment that you should punish kids when they do bad things (hiting kids was probably the norm so it is understandable that it be in the bible).
ps. i am a agnostic theist (just saying so people know my stand on the bible)
Personmr 1 year ago
@Personmr yah old school ways were a lot worse. but the bible also says that solomon disciplined his son so much that his son turned into a evil tyrant who was almost stoned to death
paulinotou 11 months ago
like someone who is unable to understand why they are geting spanked (pre-schoolers ect.) also i think it should be illegal to hit a minor that you dont have consent from a guardian. i am somwhat agenst the idea of government getting involved in what parents do in there homes; but i still think it is wrong to use physical force when there is no danger to oneself. thats what i think.
Personmr 1 year ago
my opinion is that corpral punishment should be done away with, but i dont think that kids should be taken away just because they where spanked. i think it is wrong to hit anyone other then for self defence (espesualy when the one getting spanked is alot weaker). i dont disagree that it can be effective but i think that there are better ways to handle dicipline. while im not convinced that it should be flat out illegal to use spanking i think it should be illegal to hit somone who is too young..
Personmr 1 year ago
@squid4947 LOL thats the gayest shit ive ever heard omg. Americans...siick
Hrko1992 1 year ago
I believe it should be legal in the home but illegal in the school.
gunzrkewl 1 year ago
as long as its only when they fuck up, i dont see the problem with enforcing discipline and respect in a kid, especially in this day and age
GuitarRockGod951 1 year ago
@GuitarRockGod951 Unfortunately, I don't think you understand the definitions of the words you want enforced yourself. Enforcing respect does not involve striking children with a wooden board, but it all begins when teachers and other adults model respectful behavior. If teachers and other adults are in the habbit of beating and bullying children, don't be surprised if they immitate the same behaviors they hav witness to themselves or other adults.
generalcrash777 1 year ago
Also, while you're there, look up the word discipline. I garentee that hitting children is not part of the definition. I bet it would start like this:
(To instruct/teach). Modern science has shown that hitting doesn't have to be part of discipline and isn't part of discipline to begin with. Hitting children only allows a steam valve to open for adults who can't control their temper. As for your comment on paddling if they screw up, let me point out that we all screw up somewayy in our lives.
generalcrash777 1 year ago
@generalcrash777 it doesnt have to be but its a way of getting it across the kid mind not to do it. they say spanking makes kids do it even more? i call bull shit based off of personal experience. i remember when me and my siblings were bad at the mall or somewhere, my mom will take us out to the parking lot at belt us. you can bet that after a while we get smarter. i love watching people scared to hit there kid tell them to stop but they dont listen. put them in time out, they dont stay.
paulinotou 11 months ago
Exactly what can a 3-year-old do that requires paddling?
MondoBeno 1 year ago 2
I wouldn't Cry or Beg them. I would just Sull. So that Angered them. Which means they'd beat me harder. This was Assault. But in the 1960's who knew. They should have been Prosecuted. Jailed. Or even Killed for this. But they got away with it. I'd like to drop Nerve Gas on that Town even today. They deserve it. The one's who did it are probably in Nursing Homes or the Cemetary.But maybe I'd Kill some of their Relatives! Time Has No Meaning For Revenge! Evil For Evil! They took something from Me!
ZEEMADMAN 1 year ago
I was beaten by My Teachers in a RuralTexasSchool starting in SecondGrade. I say Beaten, Not Spanked. They used a Board that would be Illeagal in Prisons. They left Blood Blisters. It was Sport for them. All based on how much Fear they could instill. Cowards,Thugs,&Bullies. I still don't even remember what it was I did to get that treatment. They didn't like My Family. Why? I don't know? Which means they didn't like Me. Now I'm Quite the Sociopath! A Trained Killer. I'mGood at it!
ZEEMADMAN 1 year ago
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The damn kid told him mom that he's been spanked but he didnt tell his mom WHAT HE DID WRONG AND WHY THE TEACHER SPANK HIM! Smart kid lol
TAC412 1 year ago
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TAC412 1 year ago
Cp is not necessary for the most part. A parent that takes a lot of opportunity to give a kind word pat on the back when the kid is doing right/behaving/studing. Then you won’t have many occasion to have use unkind word and sit the kid in a corner. Most parents are just to busy to have kids in the first place
samten10a 1 year ago
Funny it remains legal in the bible belt. I wonder why its like that..... oh wait.
TheSpiffyGamer 1 year ago
@TheSpiffyGamer Because the Bible commands that adults not to withold the rod of correction in Proverbs or the child will go to hell. IF you need to learn anything about the Bible, try watching Pastor John Hagee. He is the best. Also read Dare to Discipline by James Dobson. great reading
WTREPUBLICAN 1 year ago
@WTREPUBLICAN Thats the most retardingly offensive shit I have ever heard. Beating your kid so he dosent go to hell. First of all there is no hell, and corporal punishment dosent work at all.
TheSpiffyGamer 1 year ago
it isnt the education systems place or responsibility to correct kids like that its the parents but alot of people are just not fit to be parents and this whole be fruitful nonsense really gets on my nerves when we have so many kids getting truly abused by there parents .
Azicpok1 1 year ago
Spanking is sexual abuse. The buttocks are so close to the genitals and so multiply linked to sexual nerve centers, striking them can trigger powerful and involuntary sexual stimulus in some people. How on earth do this people think it's apropiate to touch a student's butt? This is considered sexual abuse in other places, why not there?
mickey3348 1 year ago
@mickey3348 Yes you're right, and this is especially true if such methods are used with teenagers when hormones are in full swing. Spanking a teenager is no different than rape.
Christoph777 1 year ago
@Christoph777 Thank you, I cannot believe they are letting pervert teachers touch student's butt, what if the principal has a spanking fetish? Poor kids...Thank goodness I live in a more civilized place...Have a nice day.
mickey3348 1 year ago
@mickey3348 Even if the principal doesn't have a spanking fetish its the act itself thats sexual. The principal should be shot.
Christoph777 1 year ago
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mickey3348 1 year ago
1:27 my 4th grade teacher had one just like that
bluewolverine40 1 year ago
@bluewolverine40 Bluewolverine Ive trained with Navy SEALS on how to fight and I would personally beat the hell out of any teacher or administrator that tried to paddle me, and I would put them in the hospital!
Christoph777 1 year ago
@Christoph777
How about you just behave yourself so you don't need to be paddled in the first place? Show respect, work hard to do your best, and there are no problems.
... besides, not too many school-aged children have trained with Navy SEALS... duh.
MALIBUMANDY714 1 year ago
@MALIBUMANDY714 Generally I do behave myself, ect. but even if I didn't, a high school student is too old to be paddled. Speaking of which, I've heard of high school students being paddled for such mild infractions as being late to class or not having their shirt tucked in. A teenager is too old to be spanked by their parents and by school administrators. As for training with SEALS, there are programs that any civilian can sign up for, if you know where to find it and if you can afford it.
Christoph777 1 year ago
Yes, high schoolers are too old for spanking to be reliable or effective. And I've seen such training courses. You need to be 21 to attend or get parental permission and a waiver/release. And if my kid were out of control at school, I'm not sure it's too smart to train him how to kill someone with a pinecone or a water bottle.
And if you were in school and found in need of corrective paddling, you would go to juvenile detention for 'beating the hell out of a teacher'.
Way to stay logical.
MALIBUMANDY714 1 year ago
@MALIBUMANDY714 As for those programs, there are people in their teens that attend some of those programs. Aside from that, there are SEALS that open martial arts schools after a career in the military, so a local martial arts school can teach all that stuff, although they don't teach much how to kill with pinecones, not when you can kill with your bare hands. They do teach defenses against knives, gun's, ect. and they even teach how disarm and turn somebody's own weapon against them.
Christoph777 1 year ago
@MALIBUMANDY714 exactly well said :)
bluewolverine40 1 year ago
@Christoph777 well prison has three hots and a cot for ya and some guy named bubba
bluewolverine40 1 year ago
@bluewolverine40 Self defense is a God given right and completely allowed by law.
Christoph777 1 year ago
I'm totally against corporal punishment for nearly all offenses - but it may be the only solution for bullying. Bullying in schools is the one offense that is not taken anywhere near as seriously as it should be. If the victim was an adult it would be treated as criminal assault. Bullying is the main cause of teen suicide. People bully to acquire status so punishment needs to remove that status and cause public humiliation. If that fails then exclusion and psychiatric treatment is needed.
EqualAndFree 1 year ago
Spankings work in my household. How are the kids gonna learn to respect authority? If a kid acts up, the teacher needs to be able to tear that ass up. My kids are kept in line because all I need to do is to point to my belt buckle with the emblem of the state of texas and they listen right quick!
WTREPUBLICAN 1 year ago
@WTREPUBLICAN
Not sure the teacher should have that much power. Dealing with 25-30 kids is stressful enough and who knows if that teacher remains calm enough to not lose control while spanking my kid?
I guess I don't want to put that kind of pressure on the teacher. Send a note home and I'll deal with it.
MALIBUMANDY714 1 year ago
@MALIBUMANDY714 he or she should have all the power she needs for classroom discipline period of course the rethuglicans want all private school for the elites of the nation anyway so they dont give shit
bluewolverine40 1 year ago
I agree about the authority to have someone paddled, but I wouldn't give the responsibility for actually doing it to her. Send a note home to me, or send the kid to the office for the paddling. Give him time to think about his screw up, and the principal will be even-handed because he's not personalizing the bad kid's behavior.
MALIBUMANDY714 1 year ago
@WTREPUBLICAN Texas, only steers and queers come from Texas and you don't look like a steer to me so that pretty much narrows it down.
Christoph777 1 year ago
@Christoph777 Look Boy, we don't take that back talk down here. Maybe you need a spanking. Only problem is that there are guys now that enjoy that kind of stuff. Kids need good old fashoined discipline. deep down they yearn for it. Read Dr. Dobson's book Strong Willed Child. He is an expert in disciplining children.
WTREPUBLICAN 1 year ago
@WTREPUBLICAN Right, and even James Dobson says that teenagers shouldn't be spanked. Spanking small children is one thing but teenagers are too old, and a teenager can go to the police.
Christoph777 1 year ago
@Christoph777 James Dobson is wrong about that. Teenagers need it even more since they are growing into men and they naturally think that they can challenge what the teachers and parents are saying. Sometimes you need to give them a loving whuppin so they will respect authority. If you do not give a teenager a whuppin when he needs it, he will undoubtedly get a whuppin from a police officer eventually. and that may include getting shot or tazed. Isn't it better to make them respect before hand?
WTREPUBLICAN 1 year ago
@WTREPUBLICAN There is nothing loving about giving a "whuppin" to a teenager. They're too old, and teenagers have a right to their bodies. Furthermore, a teenaer probably wont let somebody give them a "whuppin." Trying to spank someone whose got an adult sized body is just outright absurd and is done in porn. Be sensible to spank someone you have to be physically able to or they would have to let you. And its you who would get it from the police if you spank a teenager, especially if its a girl.
Christoph777 1 year ago
@Christoph777 Then how is the kid gonna learn right from wrong? How is the kid going to repsect authority? What are you going to do? talk to them? That is a waste of time. IF they do not fear authority, they will break the rules.
WTREPUBLICAN 1 year ago
@WTREPUBLICAN Kids should learn that before they hit the teen years. By the time a child is a teenager they will know right from wrong if they're brought up proper the first 12 years of life. We dont spank criminals. With teenagers there are other methods of punishment, grounding, detention, ect. Fear is the tool of a bully and people in authority that use fear are just bullies that abuse their positions, and besides if the teenager doesn't let anybody spank them or goes to the police than what?
Christoph777 1 year ago
@Christoph777 You are right, it is important to give young children hard discipline so they learn to fear authority and will behave as teenagers. However, what do you do if they are not brought up proper? What do you do if punishment, grounding, detention don't work. Hell, some of these kids laugh at you if you give them detention. At some point you gotta get physical. All Im saying is why waste time will all that other stuff when you can go right to spanking and get the job done right quick ?
WTREPUBLICAN 1 year ago
@WTREPUBLICAN If you don't bring them up proper before they're teenagers than you have missed the boat. If grounding and detention don't work than other means must be used but getting physical is not one of those means, it is simply not an option. A boss can demote, suspend, even fire employees but can't get physical with them. Getting physical with teenagers most likely will get you in trouble with the law.
Christoph777 1 year ago
@Christoph777 By the way no teenager wants his ass whupped but it is not his choice. The adults have to act like adults and be willing to dish out a little punishment now and then. Fear is the best motivator. If the child doesn't fear the adult's POWER, then he will not repsect the adult. The best thing my dad did for me was to make me fight him when I was 14. He beat me senseless but I learned that even though I was getting bigger, I was not the boss of the house. Kids need to learn respect.
WTREPUBLICAN 1 year ago
@WTREPUBLICAN Usually it is the teenager's choice. The teenager can simply not let anybody "whup" him. As for your dad beating you senseless at 14, too bad you didn't know karate. Your dad just sounds like a big bully. As for me, I've trained with Navy SEALS and I can destroy anybody that tries to "whup" me. Hopefully it never comes to that because nobody tries in the first place.
Christoph777 1 year ago
@WTREPUBLICAN Furthermore a teenager can use a weapon. I know a case of a teenager whose stepdad tried to "whup" him and he let his stepdad have it with a baseball bat. Some teenagers will even use guns, BANG! Than what?
Christoph777 1 year ago
@WTREPUBLICAN the worst thing you can do with a teenager is not talk to them like an adult if you say just cuz i said so they are going to rationalize teir whay around your rules fear doesnt motivate anyone i have never done anthing because i was afraid i hav however done things out of spite..BB's in oil of step D's 59 chevy appache.. i grew up in an abusive home i fought most of my stepdads but it wasnt until i had a better reason than BECAUSE I SAY SO to follow the rules that i did
acewizhyde 1 year ago
@acewizhyde BECAUSE I SAY SO. Is how society works? The boss pays you to do what he says not to engage in an intellectual debate. In Proverbs it says not to withold the rod of correction or your child will go to hell. Powerful stuff. Fear is a great motivator because the kid fears the ass whuppin, so he does what you tell him to. A good whuppin now and then is not abuse. Abuse is when you beat a child for no reason. Dr. Dobson says that you must not beat a child out of anger.
WTREPUBLICAN 1 year ago
@WTREPUBLICAN lol you're a moron... i pay my employees to find the best way to do the job that needs to be done for the benifit of the company i trust their judgement and treat them like adults who are capable of framing their own rational thoughts i dont think for them no more than a coach needs to tell a runningback where to run. and for the bible bullshit how bout this one from your "bible" He that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death.--Ex.21:17 so kill your kid
acewizhyde 1 year ago
@WTREPUBLICAN" a man resorts to violence only when he runs out of ideas" lao-tzu ive been a stepdad for 17 years and have never had to raise my hand to her kids... ever nether has she yea they mess up they get in trrouble but they take the conseqences of their actions
acewizhyde 1 year ago
@WTREPUBLICAN as for fearing an ass whuppin well my step dad used to beat me no not ass whuppin try broken orbital socket at 12 because i broke a dish while washing them just to name an instance well i got to a point i didnt fear an ass whuppin and took a baseball bat and broke both his arms... violence makes people violent push a person enough and people push back its a fact jst because your weak ass submitted to your dad like a dog dont mean everyone is weak willed like you
acewizhyde 1 year ago
It does work you didnt used to have mouthy kids when my parents were in school. And after you were paddled in school you were paddled again when you got home when your parents found out
zzbunch 1 year ago
It does work you didnt used to have mouthy kids when my parents were in school.
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