the great thing about this movie is that we dont end up hating or pitying one character over another. we have a better understanding of how fragile the things we value most in life can be and how a single act of jealousy and spite can be so destructive.
I still don't understand why Cee stopped Robbie. Briony deserved to be hurt after all she did. She only did it because she's stupid. Briony knew how much they loved each other but she did nothing to clear Robbie's name even though she could've. She let him go to jail because it made her happy to see him there and keep him away from Cee. She knew he was a good man but she had to try and ruin him for what?
@orlandogirl213 Because she was a child. She had seen something that she was not ready to see yet. She did something that she would regret a LOT when she grew older. And she did. Now it's too late to apologize. Imagine you had to live with something like that on your conscious.
@tarjay35 I mean yeah even though I kinda get she was young or whatever, but after it all comes together and she confesses to letting him go to jail, my emotions would just be like >:( and I woulda just snapped.
i'd have to wholly agree with Fkdls, Briony is driven by guilt. she's trying to make up for the mistake tht she did towards Robbie. in such a way tht she drew him out to be this fragile person who is victimized. but the entire story is told from Briony's subjective perspective when she was young. shes blaming herself for everythg bad tht ever happened to both Ce and Robbie. doesn't mean she really is to blame. we as readersdnt kw wht was going on with Robbie or Ce except from her point of view
@rkim64 Briony loved what she did to Ce and Robbie. She was just jealous she didn't have a man like that and never would because she's so malicious, evil. She enjoyed every minuted of torturing Robbie and Ce.
I don't know why Briony backs away from Robbie like a coward. She knowingly and willingly tortured him and Ce, so she should let him beat her up because she deserves to be beaten and tortured like she tortured them. Robbie should've kicked her butt. I would've. Briony wanted Ce&Robbie to be miserable or else she would've told the truth years ago. But she kept her mouth shut for almost 4 years so she's evil. I would've kicked her butt if she did that to me.
Seriously, Ce shouldn't have intervened. Briony deserved to be a patient in her own hospital. I would've beaten her up if I were Ce or Robbie. She wanted Robbie and Ce to suffer so she deserved pain since that's what she put them through. She isn't even human.
Briony is a liar. Ce warns the police in the beginning not to trust Briony because she lies all the time and she's a stupid girl. I don't believe that Robbie died in the war because that only makes Briony happy knowing her sister could never have Robbie. Besides, sad endings are crappy endings. Happy endings are what an audience wants to see.
youre thinking very close mindedly about atonement as just a film about plot. have you never stopped to think that perhaps mcewan, the author of the novel, is not trying to make the reader think about the importance of fact and fiction? even appearance and reality? and i wouldn't agree in saying that briony is always wholly unlikeable. briony is manipulated in the later parts to be sympathetic as a character, by briony the writer. robbie is only painted as a hero because briony feels the need.
Robbie is a hero. He was a good man and for no reason, Briony ruined his life and her sister's. She knew exactly what she was doing and didn't repent or save Robbie. She let him go and didn't care about him or Ce. That's why she's evil. Giving them a different ending doesn't count. She's still evil because she did nothing to help them and acts like a victim. Bottom line, Robbie=good, Briony=bad.
Is he a hero though? Briony is "writing" Atonement with a feeling of guilt about her, so is more likely to paint him as a sympathetic character. Would a hero send or even write a letter of that nature? Would a hero talk about his upbringing in such a way? Would a hero have done what Robbie did in the library?
And you're being slightly close minded if you think Briony didn't care about Cecilia. One of her main motives was through love of Cecilia and protection. (Also, it's "Cee" not "Ce")
As I said, Briony is a liar and she felt no remorse for what she did. Otherwise, if she did, she would've stopped Robbie from going to jail and confessed that she lied. Robbie was just a man in love. A man who can love is a hero. All he did was make love to Cee, I think that's heroic.
Briony can't protect her sister. Cee is wise enough to know if Robbie is trying to hurt her. If Briony loved her, she wouldn't have lied. She had no right to send Robbie away. She just didn't want Cee 2 be happy
i think robbie, in his own right may be a hero. but the kind of hero that that person was making robbie out to be, is one straight from fairy tales - where men are virtuous and follow decorum perfectly. HOWEVER, having sex in a library in a fit of lustful passion would never fit that stereotype of hero.
i was merely saying that perhaps robbie breaks the conventions of a hero-type in that sense. not that heroes don't have sex. because we all know what "happily ever after" means. :P
Why did Ce stop him? She should've let him beat the crap out of Briony. Seriously, Briony is not human and completely evil or else Robbe and Ce wouldn't have suffered so long. How come Briony didn't die or go to jail for perjury? She should've died since she callously hurt everyone. Robbie should've beat her up. He could do it and she can't say a thing.
12 seconds of footage and it made me cry
xlovingirlx 2 weeks ago
Whoa! Talk about a powerful scene.
nitexblssm 1 month ago
i HATED this movie but ii LOVED iT SO MUCH!! *TEEEEEAAAAAAAAARS!!
Maddluv4eric 3 months ago
12 seconds and i'm weeping.
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO ME ATONEMENT?
smileyourperfect 4 months ago
Full version?
SupahKennyD 5 months ago
Anyone know where i can find the entire scene with Robbie actually yelling at Briony?
Mixedup92 7 months ago
This scene is so emotionally charged and well-acted.
tarjay35 8 months ago 2
the great thing about this movie is that we dont end up hating or pitying one character over another. we have a better understanding of how fragile the things we value most in life can be and how a single act of jealousy and spite can be so destructive.
yurtubsuks 9 months ago 8
I feel like this scene and whole visit is stronger in the novel, but it is so damn awesome either way.
Lkr721993 11 months ago
The beginning scared the crap out of me!
AllisonluvsGoodMusic 1 year ago
mmmmmmhmn...sooo good:)
lovesababe 1 year ago
I still don't understand why Cee stopped Robbie. Briony deserved to be hurt after all she did. She only did it because she's stupid. Briony knew how much they loved each other but she did nothing to clear Robbie's name even though she could've. She let him go to jail because it made her happy to see him there and keep him away from Cee. She knew he was a good man but she had to try and ruin him for what?
orlandogirl213 1 year ago 3
@orlandogirl213 Because she was a child. She had seen something that she was not ready to see yet. She did something that she would regret a LOT when she grew older. And she did. Now it's too late to apologize. Imagine you had to live with something like that on your conscious.
Artemisss1 11 months ago
@orlandogirl213 That's what i was thinking. I would've let him beat the shit out that bitch.
Pardon the language.
tarjay35 8 months ago
@tarjay35 I mean yeah even though I kinda get she was young or whatever, but after it all comes together and she confesses to letting him go to jail, my emotions would just be like >:( and I woulda just snapped.
tarjay35 8 months ago
i'd have to wholly agree with Fkdls, Briony is driven by guilt. she's trying to make up for the mistake tht she did towards Robbie. in such a way tht she drew him out to be this fragile person who is victimized. but the entire story is told from Briony's subjective perspective when she was young. shes blaming herself for everythg bad tht ever happened to both Ce and Robbie. doesn't mean she really is to blame. we as readersdnt kw wht was going on with Robbie or Ce except from her point of view
rkim64 2 years ago
@rkim64 Briony loved what she did to Ce and Robbie. She was just jealous she didn't have a man like that and never would because she's so malicious, evil. She enjoyed every minuted of torturing Robbie and Ce.
orlandogirl213 1 year ago
Second best scene in the movie. Very well played. Moving and powerful
Alienshadow5 2 years ago 39
@Alienshadow5 what is the first?
Lovecrraft 1 month ago
@Lovecrraft I've got to say I'm pretty partial to the library scene, personally ;)
Alienshadow5 1 month ago
@Alienshadow5 oh, i forgot about it))) but as for me they are equivalent 'cause are quite different in type)))
Lovecrraft 1 month ago
@Lovecrraft I have to agree. Apples and oranges, both scenes are awesome.
Alienshadow5 1 month ago
I don't know why Briony backs away from Robbie like a coward. She knowingly and willingly tortured him and Ce, so she should let him beat her up because she deserves to be beaten and tortured like she tortured them. Robbie should've kicked her butt. I would've. Briony wanted Ce&Robbie to be miserable or else she would've told the truth years ago. But she kept her mouth shut for almost 4 years so she's evil. I would've kicked her butt if she did that to me.
orlandogirl213 2 years ago
Seriously, Ce shouldn't have intervened. Briony deserved to be a patient in her own hospital. I would've beaten her up if I were Ce or Robbie. She wanted Robbie and Ce to suffer so she deserved pain since that's what she put them through. She isn't even human.
orlandogirl213 2 years ago
well since that scene is invented...and robbie dies at war, i don't think it matters much
Fkdls 2 years ago
Briony is a liar. Ce warns the police in the beginning not to trust Briony because she lies all the time and she's a stupid girl. I don't believe that Robbie died in the war because that only makes Briony happy knowing her sister could never have Robbie. Besides, sad endings are crappy endings. Happy endings are what an audience wants to see.
orlandogirl213 2 years ago
youre thinking very close mindedly about atonement as just a film about plot. have you never stopped to think that perhaps mcewan, the author of the novel, is not trying to make the reader think about the importance of fact and fiction? even appearance and reality? and i wouldn't agree in saying that briony is always wholly unlikeable. briony is manipulated in the later parts to be sympathetic as a character, by briony the writer. robbie is only painted as a hero because briony feels the need.
Fkdls 2 years ago
Robbie is a hero. He was a good man and for no reason, Briony ruined his life and her sister's. She knew exactly what she was doing and didn't repent or save Robbie. She let him go and didn't care about him or Ce. That's why she's evil. Giving them a different ending doesn't count. She's still evil because she did nothing to help them and acts like a victim. Bottom line, Robbie=good, Briony=bad.
orlandogirl213 2 years ago
Is he a hero though? Briony is "writing" Atonement with a feeling of guilt about her, so is more likely to paint him as a sympathetic character. Would a hero send or even write a letter of that nature? Would a hero talk about his upbringing in such a way? Would a hero have done what Robbie did in the library?
And you're being slightly close minded if you think Briony didn't care about Cecilia. One of her main motives was through love of Cecilia and protection. (Also, it's "Cee" not "Ce")
Fkdls 2 years ago
As I said, Briony is a liar and she felt no remorse for what she did. Otherwise, if she did, she would've stopped Robbie from going to jail and confessed that she lied. Robbie was just a man in love. A man who can love is a hero. All he did was make love to Cee, I think that's heroic.
Briony can't protect her sister. Cee is wise enough to know if Robbie is trying to hurt her. If Briony loved her, she wouldn't have lied. She had no right to send Robbie away. She just didn't want Cee 2 be happy
orlandogirl213 2 years ago
I hope you aren't studying english or film at school/college if that's how you think about films and texts.
Fkdls 2 years ago
I'm not yet. I plan to be a lit major and a minor in theater.
orlandogirl213 2 years ago
... the person you're arguing with is kind of dumb, but are you really saying heroes don't have sex?
hazel61kinzel 2 years ago
haha no no no
i think robbie, in his own right may be a hero. but the kind of hero that that person was making robbie out to be, is one straight from fairy tales - where men are virtuous and follow decorum perfectly. HOWEVER, having sex in a library in a fit of lustful passion would never fit that stereotype of hero.
i was merely saying that perhaps robbie breaks the conventions of a hero-type in that sense. not that heroes don't have sex. because we all know what "happily ever after" means. :P
Fkdls 2 years ago
your a bitch!
howieandolivia 2 years ago
mature(!)
Fkdls 2 years ago
@howieandolivia *you're
thtktgrl 1 year ago
Why did Ce stop him? She should've let him beat the crap out of Briony. Seriously, Briony is not human and completely evil or else Robbe and Ce wouldn't have suffered so long. How come Briony didn't die or go to jail for perjury? She should've died since she callously hurt everyone. Robbie should've beat her up. He could do it and she can't say a thing.
orlandogirl213 2 years ago
this is so romantic! love it!
SylvanaLove 3 years ago 2
loved this scene. Loved the movie. Masterpiece.
Glimerelle 3 years ago 30
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this was disgusting, really
mdoub 3 years ago
Why? It's like her famous line in this entire movie xD
maidenrukia 3 years ago
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urgh...this scene was awful. just too maudlin for my taste.
wildterp 3 years ago
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God this scene is ridiculous...
daVani10 3 years ago
this was my favourite moment in the book and the movie.. along with when she grabs his lapel n says the same thing when hes arrested soo romantic
EmEclecticfan 3 years ago 3