Adoption - An Adoptee Talks about Intl Adoption

[oiuweroiuwer]

finally, a seed of an intelligent discussion about the human trafficking called, "adoption". thank you Kim Yeon Suke

[DanceRhythMIX]

Everything she says is wrong

1 My parents had me because they wanted to, just like her family chose to adopt her because they wanted to, what's the difference?

2 Korea is above average size for a country.

3 South Korea is not at all impoverished.

4 Korea was never colonized by a Western nation, they were brutally colonized by several Asian nations.

5 Victim syndrome is and unsightly thing. It is good to consider this stuff but don't completely loose yourself to racial thinking.

[tokee1234567]

@DanceRhythMIX some of it is right. Korea is a pretty small country dude. South Korea is half the size of Washington State (not DC) and she was probably referring to South Korea than the entire Korea as a whole with North Korea. Korea was colonized by the Japanese.

[nadeseh]

the us is one of the few countries that exports and imports babies.

[tudorgarden]

 Part 1 `Traveling to Seoul to meet the son we had waited 3 1/2 years. We had prayed for our son, underwent physical testing, home studies, referrals, classes & pediatricians. Preparing for him just made us one step closer. Just counting down the days seemed like more years adding up but we knew the wait was so worth it. Our son Jack, Gym Beoul was to be ours and we were to be his forever. His pictures adorned our house and I started to wash his clothes and pack for our journey to Seoul.

[nursewithapurse]

She's missing the point... her own bio-parent either abandonded her or gave her to a orphanage... How is that western countrys *raping" Korea? Perhaps for the adoptee a core issue is ... "how can my own flesh & blood abandon me" too hurtful to address.

After her abandonment, a entity in Korea "put her up for adoption"... So, how is that the fault of Western Culture. They couldn't do it if their own culture didn't first claim that adoptee is truly an "orphan without a parent" in need of a home.

[itachiXsasukeXluvr]

@nursewithapurse she's referring to the "modern world". Go read up on the relationships asia, the americas, and africa had with western europe in post 1492. Go read about monocultures and the commercialization of asia. That is what she is referring to. The economic changes started in the 16th and 17th centuries created the peripheral countries and influenced a lot of their hardships of today.

[gennanam]

to be honest, I think there is some point in giving a child to her own race. Asians adopting asians etc. I'm a korean living in NZ and I have adapted to the NZ life, but there's always this different sort of a connection when it comes with family. It's important to feel accepted as who u r. Having similar traits with ur parents is a pride u can live with and having parents that understand what ur colour means in the society is something no one can pay for.

[mollykjodykazakhstan]

@gennanam hmm

[bigskybcs]

As an adoptive mom who has struggled to have a loving bond with our adopted daughter, and helping her to know that she enriched OUR lives, and she is OUR gift.. never trying to make her feel like she is supposed to be grateful - watching this film is a reminder that adopted kids will always have the feeling of having to be grateful, no matter how hard we try to convince them otherwise. It's their most useful crutch.. and it stands between them & feeling truly loved. Sad.

[oosnij]

this is a response to her other video. This woman is a fool. she could survive no better in korea than most "american blacks" could survive in africa. The racism and narrowmindness in Skorea is many times that of anywhere in the US. they will judge you on being fat/unattractive; looking korean and not knowing korean; being a bastard(no family bloodline); and being uneducated. The things koreans will like; the fact u r from america; the great fortune u had being adopted by americans

[Bloodgod40]

Wow... what a ridiculously bitter woman.

[coochicrook]

@Bloodgod40

Can you intelligently explain why you think she is "a ridiculously bitter woman."

[Beesahili]

Come on guys!there is nothing wrong of being white!What should be addressed is the blatant racism in the white society& the institutional creation of white supremacy over the rest of the world.Most adoption are carried out to fulfil the need of having a baby(child).The adopting family do not adopt out of charity but to satisfy their crave for a child.The adoptee needs shelter, love & financial support.Thus, a sort of symbiosis.

[theDirtyGupta01]

@americangurl Sorry but WHO else dates, adopts, and has the most admiration and influence from this particular racial group?

[ashatbulaparanormal]

Color doesn't have anything to do with adoption.Stand-in parents want babies,not babies biological families.The farther away the parents are, the happy the stand-in parents are.No one is sure that she's an orphan or her parents gave her up willing.

[seoulflower]

@flubno-no they do adopt, they go for foster kids because they want to help the kid not get the "perfect baby" from overseas where they don't have to deal with court, birthparents, the supposed issues from the us foster systems....also their not shopping for a specific skin color or exotic location......i was an international adoption worker, now work with child protective services/foster care system, volunteered in korea etc....

[sindyk117]

No one can judge unless you were in her shoes. What makes eveyone think she will be illiterate and poor if she stayed in Korean ophanage? My father,s best friend was an orphan but he is a CEO of a company. She could had a better life or may be better of in us. Who knows but at least she would felt belonged to the same race.

[ACTINGDRAMA]

@sindyk117 Because you have assholes who have the white savior complex. It is the same thing that is going on in Haiti, children being taken away from their homeland, without making sure their parents are dead or have relatives that could help them.

They would rather spend thousands of dollars taking the child from their family, then sponsoring the family, for less then that amount.

[ttiiyy]

There is a big difference between Japanese and Japanese Americans.

The later has the Japanese blood, but they are Americans.

It's ridiculous that some Japanese say that the American government made a huge mistake while some Japanese accuse Japanese American soldiers of being "traitors" during WWII.

Japanese did not care about Japanese Americans, and they still don't today.

These small-minded Japanese still expect Japanese Americans to be loyal to Japan. It makes me sick.

[scott97]

When was Korea a colony of a western country? The only raping in Korea that I learned about in school was by the Japanese, certainly an imperialist country but not western.

[hppy4ever]

i don't think saying westernization has "raped" the east is fair. actually it's more of a willing relationship. look at the numbers of people "running" to america verses running to korea. thus, there's something valued and desired in the West that the East does not have. I'm not being racist here, I'm just telling u the facts. Think about it!

[Jennyftb11771]

I think the whites writing nasty comments on here should learn and research a bit more before making uneducated remarks (I'm white too by the way). Adventurousvictor hit the nail on the head- how would one of you white people like to grow up in an Asian country, looking different than everyone around you, not knowing anything about your real culture and heritage??? What makes you think these kids WANT to be adopted? They had no choice!

[LyeLye]

@Jennyftb11771 As a white person, I would love to have grown up in an Asian culture because I find that culture very interesting and beautiful. Also I think no matter who you are if you are young and dont have parents and are adopted you just want to have a home and be loved not live in the orphanage or be homeless all your life.

[nomorefunds]

@Jennyftb11771 Most Americans have no desire to emigrate to Asian countries. If that helps to answer your question.

[yexey]

wtf Korea isn't poor

She's gonna get a huge shock when she actually goes to Korea.

Wait until some halmoni screams at her in public, or her co workers tell her she's too fat, or she gets insulted for not being married.

Then she can write another masters thesis about that.

[Rallow]

Yes, I'm sure you would have been much happier raised a a ward of the state!

[weberockinyo]

If I were her adoptive mother, I think I would be hurt to hear this.

[laleebee]

I tend to think that had you not been adopted you wouldn't be the well spoken educated young woman we see on this video. I guess to preserve your culture they should have left you in an orphanage in Korea where you would have been illiterate and probably drooling in the corner.

[Smithson445]

Wow, you're a moron. She would have been adopted by a Korean family and grown up in Korea.

[nateproof]

Actually, of the 230,635 Korean children who have been adopted since 1958 only 30% were adopted domestically. So odds are she would not have been adopted at all had it not been for international adoption. But go ahead and call someone a "moron" when you don't know what you're talking about.

[aliciaftw]

She probably wouldn't have been adopted; though what laleebee said was rather insensitive and moronic, I'll agree.

[oosnij]

Blood and family are a huge deal in Korea. The culture (unfortunately) isn't big on adoption for those very reasons.

Orphans(when old enough) of mixed parents are given the option of going to the US because staying would mean a harder life w/very few options.

[jeishun]

Korea's not a fucking third world country. It's a very prosperous country. You're so stupid just because you live in the U.S. you think everyone is worse off than you? I hate it when people think U.S. is SO fucking great and fabulous when it's NOT and I live there!

[nateproof]

There isn't enough to explain how Korea's prosperity is directly linked to the U.S. but in any case, no one said Korea is a third-world country nor did anyone say Ms. Navarre would be worse off in Korea. What was said is that she would have been worse off as a orphan in Korea. The U.S. is not perfect but it most certainly is "great and fabulous." If it wasn't there wouldn't be a million new immigrants here every year.

'절이 싫으면, 중이 떠난다'

[asian897]

I agree

[nateproof]

This poor woman. It is heartbreaking to think that she wasn't allowed to grow up in a Korean orphanage. It's terrible that she was forced to come to the U.S. and been afforded the oppurtunity to pursue a master's degree. 입시전쟁 aside there is no doubt she could have done that as an orphan in Korea. 불상해죽겠습니다.

고마와할줄 모르는김윤숙 정신차려!

[nateproof]

미국에 입양한 아이 보다 하국에 고아가 더 잘사는것을 주장하고있어요? 한국 문화에대해 몰라요? 또한 오바마 대통령에대한 말씀이 무쓴뜻이에요? 'They' 누구이에요? 한국에 인간차별 없는줄로알아요?

[seoulflower]

@nateproof -are you il chu mo (1.5)?

[oosnij]

You need 1 of three things to live properly. Either money or an education, or family. Chances are if this girl stays at the orphanage, she doesn't get adopted. It is probable that she leaves the orphanage w/no money, family, or education(college). At that point her best chance at living a decent life depends on how well she marries. Men are looking for educated, attractive women from established families, and money doesn't hurt either. Chances are she never makes it to middle class.

[tmkpk]

Dear djacobox372, to be Chinese and/or Korean does not mean a person needs to be Buddhist. Chinese and Korean identity includes Christianity and in particular, Catholicism. Many Chinese and Koreans both in China and Korea and in the world-wide diaspora are Christian. To say that the Christian God has no bearing on the ancestry of a child from Korea or China is ignorance.

[oosnij]

You can tell this woman has "identity" issues. She probably was the only asian in her town and always thought of herself as different. It looks like she was unable to overcome her appearence and accept the fact that we are all different in our own way. Her struggle (stemming from childhood) must have been much tougher and it seems she wasn't able to overcome it. Instead she seems to play the victim. I am not judging her. I am only trying to explain her rational.

[adventurousvictor]

Well, duh. Of course this woman has a identity issue, she was adopted why whites family for god sake. You don't Asian people adopting whites do you. You would have an outcry in America because that would be too low for whites. Asia is not a factory for whites to fulfill their selfish desire. If they want to help, they should just send money.

[catherinesara]

Bless you for this.

[camiguin]

this clip is too short, i wanted to hear her talk a bit more. i Didn't get a sense of her hating america as abbymicah heard and i don't see how where she went wrong by talking about european exploitation and colonialization of asia and africa. this is basic history.

Abbymicah, when did the lady in this clip say international adoption was evil?

[octoberbreeze]

She never SAID it was evil, but in her other video, she said that her Korean culture was "raped" from her when she was adopted. She talked about how she's only here because she's a citizen and "she guesses" she's thankful to be one, but feels connected to Korea. She then went on to claim that ALL adoptees are working towards the same goal - ending international adoption.

She sure makes it sound like she thinks it's evil. I also definitely got the sense that she dislikes America.

[oosnij]

She definitely has the "victims mentality". And she's talking out of her ass about moving back to Korea. She has been told from a very young age (verbally and non verbally) that she doesn't fit in here and is still trying to find her identity. She is basically rejecting the society that has rejected her. I wonder if she will ever grow out of it.

[adventurousvictor]

What she is saying is true? International adoption is bad. It promotes white privilege by fostering an image of a "white savior". There are plenty of white kids who needs adoptions, yet they want to have their "china dolls". They wants to promote the idea that they are the stewardship of "good". International adoption is just another institution of selfish white privilege.

[americangurl]

Why do people assume that everyone living in the West adopting a child is white?

[flubno]

@americangurl Most people of color do not adopt. Sence people of color are poorer, they tend to go for taking in foster kids because they get money from the state for every kid they take in. They rarely adopt.

[cymonebreathe]

@americangurl because that's basically who is middle class and above doing the majority of these adoptions. duh.

exceptions prove the rule.

[abbymicah]

She certainly is not a role model for Asian adoptees. Its unfortunate her "hate America" taints the beauty of adoption. I am an adoptive white mom to 2 beautiful children from China & Korea. I am well aware of the awesome responsiblity of raising my children in a white priviledge world while fostering a healthy self-concept, however not impossible. Not impossible w/ the love & trust in God. I love the way my family was created. Int'l adoption is not wrong, abnormal or evil.

[djacobox372]

Don't you mean love and trust in Buddha? The Christian God has no bearing on your children's ancestry.

[oosnij]

South Korea has one of the largest Christian populations in Asia, sending missionaries all over the world(2nd only to the US).

[adventurousvictor]

Yes after they been brainwashed by whites.