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  • Comrade Trotsky, a true and great Communist. :)

  • It's great Stalin died of a stroke thus wetting his pants during the process. Perfect way for way for a person like him to die. Bet his paranoa didnt assume that was going to happen. HA

  • Fuck Trotski, you doesn't have idea of what it means a revolution and how to build a country

  • alot of what comrade trosky did he helped form the CCCP army today i believe a lot of what he did to shape the army into a fighting force exist sir i am not be rude pls do not be at me GOD BLESS RUSSIA good luck in hockey Russia always gives us exciting games.

  • Read Deutscher's 3 volume biography - it is excellent.

    Avoid Robert Service's book - it's bloody terrible.

  • Long live the memory of Comrade Trotsky,but I suspect he would be aghast at the lack of fight from millions of workers in these chaotic times.Capitalism is there for the taking,we should be arming ourselves ready for a fight to the death with the elites,yet all we have are Unions organizing pointless peaceful marches & radical Left parties bickering about things that happened 100 years ago!

  • What would the world be like if it had been Trotsky leading the USSR instead of Stalin?

  • @junkers1337 the wouldnt be an alliance with hitler as trotsky said the best place for a fascist is the concrete pavement

  • But whatever may be the circumstances of my death, I shall die with unshaken faith in the Communist future. This faith in man and in his future gives me even now such power of resistance as cannot be given by any religion . . . I can see the bright green strip of grass beneath the wall and the clear blue sky above the wall, and sunlight everywhere. Life is beautiful. Let the future generations cleanse it of all evil, oppression, and violence, and enjoy it to the full.

    -Leon Trotsky :

  • militant part of CWI ?

  • Wasnt Leiba Bronstein and that Syphilis riddend Lenin bum buddies?

  • Long live to Lev Davidovich Bronstein, the great Trotsky. Red Army URRA!!

  • Just another Zionist Jew. He wasn't even Russian. Look at all the foolish comments here thinking he was a Russian. He was an American Jew from the lower east side of New York. People are still being duped into Jewish-Commuism?

  • @shareyourvideosworld Why hell there, nazitroll. No Lev Davidovitch Bronstein was not from america. Stop smoking meth.

  • Voilà un vrai socialiste, ca c'est un révolutionaire. Autre chose que tout les autres criminels; si il avait su s'imposer face à Staline, la situation aurait été totalemment différente. Jamais le trotskysme n'a été encore appliqué; il est temps de le mettre en place et de tester la doctrine de la 4ème internationale.

    PS : Quelqu'un sait ce que c'est la dernière musique ? Personellement j'adore; j'ai déjà cru l'entandre à une vidéo sur le défilé de la victoire en 45 mais je ne suis pas sur ...

  • long live comrade trotzky! long live the permanent revolution! long live the marxism!

  • trostsky was a jew who helped murder 100,000,000 christians

  • stalin killed him?

  • @Papayarx Yes :(

  • Screw Trotsky and the donkey he rode in on.

  • Long live comrade Trotsky and the international revolution!

  • Long live

  • Stalin, Trotsky, what's the difference? Socialist always lead to Authoritarianism.

  • @chewbaca1989 "Socialist always lead to Authoritarianism."

    Germany in the 1920s/30s -- the Nazis were the bitter enemies of Germany's socialists leading to the most authoritarian society that's ever existed.

    Anyway, forget history. Conditions in the United States resemble those of Weimar Germany in numerous ways. Give it a few more years. Also, for certain segments of America's population, authoritariansim is already here. Arizona anyone?

  • @bapyou

    The bulk of the Bolsheviks leadership, upwards of 80% where Jewish. I look at Communism and I wonder to myself who funded this grand experiment? Germans where nationalists not globalists.

    I agree with you that conditions exist, current events form future trends, of Weimar Republic. I welcome the States exercising power that the Fed has defaulted. The illegal migration is creating a Balkanization manufactured by D.C. We have globalists running D.C. now.

  • I love trotsky, he's a smart guy and i'm a non sectarian trotskyist myself.

    However, does anybody else think he looks like a russian colonel sanders? :P

  • Robert Service and other leading British academics have launched a campaign of historical falsification, slandering Trotsky, and denying his historical significance. The purpose of the campaign is to prevent young people coming into political struggle from learning about Trotsky's political legacy. David North of the World Socialist Website has written a number of essays in defence of Trotsky - see "Political biography and the historical lie: An examination of Robert Service’s Trotsky" on wsws

  • MP3 LINK FOR THE SECOND SONG OF THE VIDEO WOULD BE APPRECIATED !

  • Glory to Comrade Lenin and Comrade Trotsky!

  • Can i get the mp3 for the Second song in the video that starts at about 2:50 ? PLEASE or at least a link of the song

  • Trotsky thought it correct to attack Mexico's President Lazaro Cardenas after Cardenas gave him asylum in Mexico. Cardenas who was the only Mexican President that implemented a real socialist agenda, was generous enough to allow Trotsky into Mexico. But Trotsky, who made secret alliances with the CIA. Rockefeller, Mussolini and Hitler, was far from graceful and attacked Cardenas socialist policies as burgeois acts. Trotsky was nothing more than a small and petty mouse in the house of lions.

  • Jacob Shiff gave Lenin $20m to finance the red army because he knew it was a jewish takeover.The socialist revolutionaries or even the anarchists had far more progressive and humanitarian policies unlike the muderous bolsheviks who hated white europeans.Operation Barbarossa was a pre emptive strike against judeo-bolshevism,and the most just war in history.To quote Churchill at the end of ww2 'We slaughtered the wrong pig!'

  • Trostky, Lenin, Stalin, the thing they all had in common was that they were all complete, and utter, power obsessed psychopaths.

  • PROLETARIER ALLER LÄNDER VEREINIGT EUCH!!!!

    WORKER OF THE WORLD UNITE!!!!

  • name of the first song please D:

  • yeah, unfortunately Trotsky didn't succeed Lenin because he was an honest man. He was a dedicated Marxists and hated the NEP because it had capitalist elements to it. He also criticised the growing bureaucracy in the party. The party didn't like that one bit. So, he was exiled. History could have been very different if the party was more like Trotsky and Lenin.

  • @SLASHdaROCKER Trotsky was not an honest man. In fact he was a bigger sponser of state terrorism then Stalin and his ludicrous behavior was what led to his downfall.

  • @UserUK201 Face it!! Why would CIA cryogenicly preserve the Imperialist weapon Trotsky and let him loose renamed to Edward Limonov to make National Bolshevik Party ... Thats the true face of terrorism...

  • @Wyldstylist I couldn't understand your gibberish. CIA wasn't even around in Trotsky's life time moron.

  • @UserUK201 It was around under names such as "the company" or "the agency" Stalin , Kim Jong Il and Causescu are hated by USA-imperialists cause they refused to let the people slave under foreign debt and led their countries prosper in industrialism in each in their own way . Trotsky was just a guy turning to Second International of Traitor Kerensky which nowdays is the criminal terrorist organization called socialistinternational...

  • @Wyldstylist Um CIA didn't come into being until after WW2, proving you are indeed an idiot. You rambling gibberish aside, Communism has killed more people and caused more suffering then any other political system. I hope you one day will get to live in a glorious communist country and reap all the fruits of such a glorious system like starving to death or dying in a gulag.

  • @UserUK201 and what has capitalism brought? a few years of middle class and then a oligarchy! every time!

  • @krevice Um a higher standard of living, increased life expectancy, greater enviromental protection, greater life expecdency, peaceful cooperation, it stimulates advancement, etc. Open a book.

  • @UserUK201 Gulag = 0 years maximum u dont die in 10 years, USA-Guantanamo 300 years = your dead meat Whos the ideot now pal ... lol

  • @Wyldstylist You are since you can't spell idiot or you and are unaware of the millions who parished in stalins death camps.

  • @UserUK201 Stalins? lol he did not own shit cept his apartment and 17 ruble when he died , today all of the leaders are hosting country-sized deathcamps poisoning people with modified fabricated foods...

  • @Wyldstylist yeah, that and the huge villa he was in when he died. oh yeah he was also the tyrannical dictator of the ussr but whatever. communists are retarded and deserve what they preach, a life in one of those glorious marxist paradises like n. korea.

  • @UserUK201 The Villa was government property , your silly its like saying the white house was Abraham Lincolns personal property when the US-Government intelligence killed him , if Stalin was that rich as you mention why does Yevgheny Dzuvajkili Stalin not afford a good lawyer to clear his grandpas name?

  • @Wyldstylist Yeah a government which he controlled as complete dictator. That's like saying the massive palace complex in which kim jong il lives isn't really his because it's owned by the "people" as if they could ask him to leave whenever. you are an idiot.

  • @UserUK201 And u mean usa are better that executed billions over the years??? Only Clinton killed many Yugoslavians and supported islamist mafia , Obama and bush are still slaughtering people in their dictator colonies ...

    North Korea aint DICTATED neither by USA , Russia or China ... It is a democratic peoples republic!! The ace of socialism!!!

  • You are so stupid like your fucking mother and father! Fuck off arschhole! TRocki can suck my dick!

  • Fuck comunism stupid swine

  • fuck you mother fucker!! respect to this amaizing man!!!!

  • Trotsky was a fraud, the Bolsheviks were funded by the Rothschild family and many other corperate banks in America.

  • Trotsky was never a Russian patriot - if he would take power he would attack Europe in his idea of "global Revolution". He would then make Paris or London the capital of this new state and base it on foreign culture, structure, policy, etc rather than domestic Russian. Communists is bullshit and I wish Russian Tsardom would prevail.

  • @RodinaZovet

    Red and White were both the same shit man. Both serve foreign masters. I believe bolsheviks served Germany and tha whites served anglo-french alliance.

    Tsars biggest mistake was pulling Russia into WW1. By doing that he doomed russian people to suffer forever.

  • Bronstein/Trotsky was never in the Army before this position right?

  • If Trotsky get rule in USRR, there will be unimaginable totalitarianiism- He will attacked western Europe, America, and rest of world... You in the USA can wrote that communism is good, but me ( I live in Poland, and my great-grandfather died couse Red Army) I think that is terrible. I feel only aggression to men which says that Lenin&Trotsky are good leader of revolution. they kill more people than Hitler!

  • @sigtrigg they killed mor people than hitler? u cant b serious. know ur statistics. hitler started ww2. mayb ur greatgrandpa was in the wrong side of the revolution

  • Cuban press always talk shit about him

  • @folladordeprostis becos theyr stalinists

  • It's rather disappointing to see peoples view of Communism based on Stalin who was a Maniacal , genocidal maniac. Trotsky's ideas were true communism at its best. To bad no country has effectively instilled communism. All people see with communism is " Stalin killed Millions in the Ukraine," and " China's people censored to no other." Hopefully one day a country prospers from Communism to truly show people it is a great political Philosophy.

  • poor Trotsky...

  • @Pasuxl Horrible what happened to him, hey?

  • Long live the memoryand polices of Comrade Trotsky!

  • Death to Stalinism! For our communist movement in the 21st century!Long live Proretarian Internationalism, Workers of the world unite!

    Anti-Stalinism! Anti-Capitalism! Long live Humanism and Democracy! Long live comrade Trotsky!

  • Long live hero L.D.B.Trotsky, founder and first commander of the magnificent Red Army,who fall as a victim of Stalinist evil .

  • @nedeljko18

    Yes. These days there aren"t leaders like Trotsky  to led the working people to freedom from capitalist exploitation.

  • He was one good military leader, no doubt about that.

  • Trotsky saw his country born into communism, destroyed by greed, and defiled by Stalin. Pwned.

  • Title of 1st and 2nd songs pleaseeeeeeeeee. thankssssss.

  • @bokeronbreakz

    1) Kahovka z0mzZdcA8dc

    2) Nash parovoz vperjod letit. fhTj4ljQGq8&feature=related

  • @arb1961 ¡Muchas gracias! Большое спасибо!!

    ¡¡VIVA LA MADRE RUSIA!!

  • Long live comrade Trotsky!

    Long live the Bolshevik Revolution, Victory to the Red Army!

    Solidarity among the workers and peasants of the world, victory to the working class! Crush all opression and exploitation!

    In Lenin's memory, onwards! Freedom, peace, equality, progress.

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  • @PersianMarxist What a load of communist bull. Communism was disproven as a viable economic system within Marxs on lifetime so Commis resort to attacking their detractors motives rather then debating the facts. Communism is a disease.

  • @PersianMarxist Yeah ,right,whatever.Wake me up when it's over.

  • @PersianMarxist what about the countless christian innocents who were exterminated by this jewish marxist pig?

  • Does anybody know the title of the song in this video?

  • Just remember one thing BelayaArmiyaForever

    The Revolutionary Insurgent Army of Ukraine smashed your rear. 

    Enough of your futile attempts to educate these commies on Lenins crimes, stop barking up the wrong tree.

  • Trotsky is ONE UGLY piece of SHIT !!

  • @BelayaArmiyaForever

    He looked like Colonel Sanders... But he was one hell of a military commander.

  • He wasnt a military commander he was an asshole and a murderer that performed anti Russian and cultural genocide. FUCK THIS ASSHOLE and the whore he crawled out of

  • @BelayaArmiyaForever

    You sound like an educated individual.

  • more educated and better educated than you, this is obvious from my political stance. As for caling that idiot Trotsky an asshole? Well when talking to proletariat SHIT about proletariat SHIT you have to call things as you see them.

  • You think so?

    Okay then.

    So your ideology is that the ruling class is best, fuck everyone else.

    Yep.

    Sounds very "intelligent".

    And we thought people like Trotsky and Lenin wiped you all out... Too bad they missed a few.

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  • Oh go figure I was dealing with a dumb kid. That just terminates this entire correspondence as you have yet to pay your dues in life and be worthy of feeling yourself to be my equal. You dont know anything about real life. Go do your parents and the world a favor and self abort !

    Amazing the gene pool you must be from if you are the sperm that made it. No wonder you are foaming at the mouth in favor of world mediocrity. Now FUCK OFF !

  • @BelayaArmiyaForever

    If you had some form of coherent argument, I would respond.

    But all I see here is ad hominem abusive, an excellent characteristic of someone who doesn't have an argument and knows it.

    Shush now, before you embarrass yourself.

  • You are a dumb kid and you arent worthy of wasting my time on. I have noting to prove to a child. I dont give a crap about what you think, you havent earned that right yet.

    You dumb commies have no argument you just misuse and abuse the term "ad hominem" as if it is going out of style and in hopes of bringing an ironically "elitist" air to your weak and pointless rebuttal.

    As I said, grow up, live life, get laid, pay your dues, let your balls drop and then come back. Until then FUCK OFF

  • @BelayaArmiyaForever

    I rest my case.

    You, good sir, are not only by your own admission "older" than myself, but extremely immature as well.

    Not only will you not argue me, you justify this by dismissing me because of my age - one year from the age of majority.

    If you are indeed so superior, why not engage me in argument and settle the deal?

    Make it one for the books.

    If not, then I assume you know you have no argument, and therefore have decided not to engage me.

    Decide your position, my friend.

  • @BelayaArmiyaForever

    P.S.

    I am not a Communist.

  • I dont give a shit about you, wanker . Im not even reading your babble. I dont read incoherent crap from teenagers. You have nothing to offer me or the world. Do realize that your entire previous rant just went UNREAD. I dont waste my time on the rants of dumb kids

  • @BelayaArmiyaForever

    Point taken.

    In a nutshell; you know you have nothing, so you continue to rant and squeal like a child.

    Very well.

    Thank you for engaging me. As for those that read this little discussion, I think they can determine for themselves who has the better argument.

    Or rather, who has any argument at all and who is raging like a lunatic.

    Once again, thank you for your dose of right wing logic and reason.

  • blah blah blah blah. The only people I "engage" in debate are the ones worthy of my respect. I DO NOT respect snot nosed kids.

  • @BelayaArmiyaForever

    Snot nosed child?

    I am seventeen, my friend.

    I do not think this qualifies me as a child.

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  • Reghedable= Idiotic CHILD.!

  • @BelayaArmiyaForever

    Once more, please stop acting like such a child.

    And capping every odd word does not make you seem more intelligent.

    If you truly mean to ignore me, then do so; as of yet, you've replied to every comment I've made, and have gone so far as to post insults on my profile.

  • You are only worthy of INSULTS as you are an IDIOT. You arent old enough or intelligent enough to warrant any type of debate. GROW UP and until then FUCK OFF !

  • @BelayaArmiyaForever

    A quick side note; I do believe my grammar is quite accurate, thank you very much.

    As for incoherency, well, that is in the eye of the beholder, is it not?

  • ramble all you want, I am IGNORING you = )

    You are an underaged moron and have NOTHING of relevance to say. = )

    You are ignored !!

  • If you would not read his argument, admitting to this would mean you are "scared," if you will, of his argument, though, you're letting him known in advance that you did not read his argument, as to not be branded idiotic later in the "conversation" for not understanding(him assuming you had read it).

    It is even lulzier that your saying "blah blah blah" and ridiculing him, while he presents valid arguments that you disregard. Grow up, kiddy.

  • The problem with you idiot commies is that all you can do is ARGUE and yet your bullshit no matter how gilded in vocabulary is nothing more than utopian BULLSHIT .

    There is no historical proof that your bullshit will ever work, all there is proof of is how the experiment murdered 100,000.000 people to date.

    Arguing with some 17 yo piece of entitled shit is pointless as the pubescent shithead isnt worthy or capable of rational, adult thought, most likely neither are you.

  • You do realize he said he was not a communist, right? The assumption that I am a communist for pointing out the obvious is ... idiotic? Stalinism(along with its sister and brother ideologies) are responsible for those deaths. The leaders. Dictatorships. Not our ideology, which was originally based on Democracy. Please, do learn your history properly. Ridiculing me further will imply you lack an argument, and will result in me not chatting with someone who is not "worthy," as you put it.

  • democratic? Ha Ha You need to learn some history. Ever heard of Krondstadt and Tambov? Places where LENIN and TROTSKY killed at least 20,000 people using captured German gasses from WWI to kill Red supporters who simply demanded that the soviets deliver on the promise of the revolution?

    As for ridiculing you yu deserve nothing but ridicule for taking communism seriously. It is a utopian pipe dream responsible for 100,000,000 deaths worldwide in the 20th century. Still like it?

  • I still don't see how that is relevant. Communism was mean't to be democratic, regardless of what you claim Lenin did.

  • I dont claim it. The records even in Russia, where I grew up indicate this as FACT ! Communism might be meant to be democratic but ends up being the most tyrranical and murderous dictatorship EVER, regardless of what culture adopts it.

    Thats like saying "cyanide is intended to cure cancer, not kill people" and then knowing the effect it actually has still prescribing it and singing it's praises.

    OK idea initially? Maybe. Awful result always, DEFINITELY !

  • Indeed, Communism has provided quite awful results.

    I have searched for incidents in which Lenin has killed people - Never found anything. Care to tell me where you heard Lenin did any such crimes?

  • Krondstadt and Tambov under the leadership of Trotsky and Marshall Tuhachevsky for starters. There is much documentation and even actual orders signed by Lenin in the Moscow archives that support this. Ex KGB Colonel Dimitri Volkagonov did a fantastic biography and history of Lenin based on these documents which he had access to in the mid 1990s. He gives much evidence to the deranged and tyrranical abuse of power by Lenin. The man was a sadistic NUTCASE on par with Hitler

  • Yes, Lenin did kill rebels, as would most/all governments.

  • Interesting fact is that the Tsar did NOT kill socialists and revolutionaries, they were sent to live in exile. Alexander III even pardoned one man who was part of the group that assasinated his father, Alexander II the liberator of the serfs. Alexander III pardoned him simply because he admitted his crimes while all others denied their guilt. This man, I will get back to you with the name, saw the error of his ways and went on to write brilliant pro monarchist philosophy.

  • Would you have pardoned the murderer of your father?

    I smell a conspiracy.

  • No conspiracy here. The man wasnt directly responsible but simply one of the people plotting the situation. Alexander III was a devout Christian and functioned on Christian priniciples and ideas. Something hard to understand in today's cynical, pragmatic world. There was far more benevolence and forgiveness from the Tsars than from the atheists that followed. Nicholas II was told that he would have to agree to kill 10,000 in order to quiet the revolution and he did not agree to it. Lenin did.

  • Personally I wish he was less benevolent as I think those that took followed were nothing more than power mad animalistic nihilists on an international looting binge. Referencing what you said earlier I think all the Revolutionaries should have been executed without trial and all Red Army soldiers should have been executed on the spot for treason

  • Then he was a moron, unless he thought his regime was less legitimate than the aggressor's.

  • This is where to much refinement and to much faith in the Russian people came into play. I wouldnt call him a moron, simply a man who wasnt a tyrant and had faith in his people. Perhaps he was too far removed from reality. If he had a greater understanding of what was boiling in Russia perhaps he would have dealt with it differently. I do agree he was weak in character for an autocratic monarch, then again he never wanted to be Tsar.

  • Oh yeah, like Lenin's own fucking brother, a Narodnik socialist who was killed by the Tsar's regime. You really must be a complete idiot.

    AnarchistAvenger87, anarchists are communists as well (they advocate a stateless classless society) so why call us 'commies'?

  • @BelayaArmiyaForever the fact that you point out that it was the leaders that wronged, does not mean the idea itself is not feasible... if you yourself are so aware of the potential corruption of it, how about i nominate you to be our socialist leader so that real socialism can be achieved under your leadership?

  • @BelayaArmiyaForever there is a lot of proof you idiot

  • Great rebuttal and argument from you there. You just proved you dont know SHIT = )

  • @BelayaArmiyaForever

    And a whitey, go figure.

    Idiot.

  • look at him, he's so clumsy and frail. The most uncharismatic leader I've ever seen, the little Jewish rat

  • FUCK YOU, WHITE SHIT-EATER!!

  • Троцкий был еврейский мудак

  • dont call him a dumbass

  • No wonder the Red Army killed scum like you in the Civil War and alongside Nazi troops. Grow up, kid.

  • @hectorbolshevik Each Shit you CommuCunt piece of dirt. The only mistake the White Army ever made was that they didnt line more shit like you up against the wall and cut you down like the pigs that you are !!

    You dont know SHIT about history, there were no Nazis in 1917 you stupid son of a WHORE

  • They couldn't do it, even with the backing 17 of the most advanced armies, your White Army was put in it's grave. I said AND alongside the Nazis, when you cockroaches tried to take power by fighting alongside them. Even a chimp would've known that.

  • @hectorbolshevik blah blah blah blah !! If the red pieces of shit were so great why did General Vlasov, an ex SOVIET side with the NAZIS instead of trying to escape. The Ukranians greeted the NAZIS as liberators from the red terror. Imagine what SHIT you communists were if your own people were looking forward to the NAZIS? I think that was a definite first in history !!NOW SHUT THE FUCK UP stupid CommuCunt

  • I'll tell you why. Because the Red Army WON. They hung Vlasov and his scum like the cockroaches that they were, after saving the world from fascism. They then crushed the UPA cutthroats. The Nazis, plus 6 of their stooges in addition to collaborationist locals; and the Red Army still won. Looking forward to the Nazis, huh? Go read a book, and try getting a job. Shaved-headed society degenerate.

  • @hectorbolshevik explain then, ASSHAT, why it is that in no other time in history did common people greet an invading army with such welcome?Ukranians greeted Nazis with flowers, there are even videos of such things. Why was there a Russian operated Russian Liberation Army with the Germans if CommuCuntism is so good?

    That right there is absolute proof of how much regular people despised and abhored the commie tyrants !!

  • Does anyone know the name of the first song?

  • What are the names of the first two songs?

  • Yeah what is the first song, I'm really curious?

  • What the fuck does being Jewish have to do with anything?

  • Yeah... but this guy is implying that being Jewish makes you a bad person... That's racist if you haven't noticed...

  • Wow, who gave me a thumbs down for standing against racism?

  • @LoopholemanIII nothing, but why did he not use hes jewish name lev bronstein,why change ur name if theres nothing wrong

  • Because he was sent to Siberia as a political prisoner by the czar. He needed an alias to hide his name. Thus he changed it to Trotsky, just like Ulyanov changed his name to Lenin, and Jughashvili changed his name to Stalin. Taking an alias was not uncommon then.

  • @DevoutSkeptic some prison, these shitheads were sent into exile not prison. They lived there in the lap of luxure with personal chefs and spent all day hunting and living it up. What the Tsarist governement should have done was SHOOT all such filth on the spot.

  • Long live hero L.D.B.Trotski, legendary first commander and founder of the Red Army, eternal glory !

  • Trotsky Leon a true revolutionary

  • you can say whatever you want about the commies but they surely were 1st class singers !

  • WORKERS OF THE WORLD UNITE!

    we all work together we all get the SAME reward.

  • against all that sh*t they have give us

  • FUCK YOU CAPITALIST SWINE!

  • @LoopholemanIII What a load of communist bull. Communism was disproven as a viable economic system within Marxs on lifetime so Commis resort to attacking their detractors motives rather then debating the facts. Communism is evil.

  • @UserUK201 so I take it you're comfortable in not knowing what the hell you're talking about, right? Like, when was communism implemented in Marx's lifetime? I'm sure he would have loved to hear about that around 1848-50, when he was dodging his landlord whilst scrambling for the signs that the European Revolution would be revived. Glenn Beck is evil.

  • Communism, like any economic theory, can be examined and reviewed without being implemented you moron. As their fellow economists pointed out to them, Marx and Engels theories were based on faulty reasoning and the utter failure of socialist countries like the USSR proved their point. Communists are more delusional then Nazis.

  • @UserUK201 oh, I see. So which economists successfully rebuffed Marx in his lifetime? I'm gonna be lenient here and assume you're actually talking about communism, and not the state-directed capitalism that was actually implemented in the USSR. I'm also gonna assume that you've read at least significant portions of Capital or the Grundrisse, before resorting to the 'rebuffs' you claim occurred in their own lifetimes. This is all very generous, and I have my suspicions, but I believe in fairness.

  • I read Marx and Engels books as part of a course in economics, and even I could see the fault within their logic. The entire theory is based on a faulty understanding of the Labor Theory of Value which has been rebuked by economists. When this was pointed out to Marx by his fellow economists, he retorted with cheap ad hominem attacks. And what is this state directed capitalism nonsense? Capitalism can not, by definition, be state directed you idiot.

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  • @UserUK201 by the way, if you think state capitalism is a neologism, you're a bigger poseur than I thought. How could you have gone through an economics class where you learned all the niceties of Marxian economics, and not stumble across the phrase "state capitalism" or some variant at least once? How could you have missed all the articles in international relations journals and mainstream media, talking about the Chinese shift to state capitalism? It's because you're a fake.

  • @DIOPJR Um thats what we would call corporatism you moron. Because you fail to grasp basic economic terms, as you did with military terms I have to assume you know as much about economics as you do about warfare. Corporatism is just another form of government intervention which makes it diametrically opposed to true free market capitalism and along the lines of socialism.

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