A response to Pope Benedict XVI Joseph Ratzinger -Was Islam Spread by the sword?

[TheMrpalid]

The Qur'an is the truth. If anyone is sincere and looking for the truth, you'll find it in the Qur'an. May Allah guide

[Abbujak]

We must differentiate between the expansion of empires and expansion of religion. While empires are expanded by force, the religion [Islam] spread by preaching of its ideology. The power facilitate freedom to preach which is denied by pagan rulers. Roman empire, Byzantines an Persian empires were not built through peaceful means but with power of sword. Same applies to expansion of Muslim empires, with the difference NO FORCED conversions, Spain after 800 years remained Christian.

[zorin85]

Christians often talk about developing a relationship with Christ and accepting him into their lives. They assert that Jesus is much more than a man and died on the cross to free mankind from the original sin. Christians speak of Jesus with love and respect, and it is obvious he holds a special place in their lives and hearts. But what about Muslims; what do they think about Jesus and what place does Jesus Christ hold in Islam? For details, log on to islamreligion(dot)com.

[Maakongo]

Catholics make a god from the Pope!

Catholics believe that Pope speak the truth, when the Pope don't even follow his own scripture; the Bible.

90% of those people never even read the whole Bible. That's sad.

I read the Quran and I believe that Quran is the word of God(Allah in the Arabic language), I hope all you will come to the same conclusion.

[coolHANDluke91101]

Everybody cant be right. For all sides take a stand and just say it.. " We are the right religion". The "lets all be friends even though we secretly think the other is a fool" does not seem to be working. Everyone has those two thing.. an "......" and an opinion. Where is the fact? Where is truth?

[damien115552]

if you are happy being Christian, atheist, etc, well enjoy life while you have it, but dont blame Muslims for your sad life, it's the fault of the west.

[COMBATvtn]

Im a christian and i love the muslim religion for it has so much good in it,the west is not to blame for the state of the world but satanic illuminati is, as well as zionist jews

they want to crush our religion and make us kill one another yet our religions are so similar, their moto is order out of chaos and devide and conquer and they use the name of christainity to do this, i am a catholic but my religion has been infiltrated by freemasons and illuminati the new pope is a puppet

[damien115552]

P.S. Don't use Hate Sites

[unrealrealist]

The first example:

Don't kill a female infant.

Well, what is new about this?

Jesus said: You must not kill. Without any exceptions.

And the story goes on...

[damien115552]

So why did christians and catholics have the crusades and the inquistions? Also read Luke 19:27

[UstaskaOluja]

no what your saying is the opposite of history. i proved to you 400 years before the crusades muslims invaded christian held byzentine lands of the Levant. 300 years before the crusades muslims invaded christian held france, spain,sicily and sacked Rome. hence muslims have no reason to complain about the crusades. Dont deny history! it happened. Just read about it. You are the ones living in a self deluded fantasy which bears no relation to history

[UstaskaOluja]

i am not the one hatemongering and promoting myths so just please be quiet!You muslims dont know your own history then you go on about how bad everyone else is, hypocrites! I just brought up the koran contradictions because you brought up the bible ones. So its ok for you to talk about contradictions but not me? you hypocrite! again you can go search for them yourself on the net if you want to. So my claims are crazy? my god just study history for yourself and youll see!

[damien115552]

I dont have the time to argue with you, You can think whatever you want. You can't provide a valid contradiction. Dont deny Muslims bought Europe out of the dark ages. Islam is for those who wish to submit to the will of God it's your choice, there is no compulsion in Islam. You will be judged for what you do in this life. Why argue with you? Even when I prove you wrong you'll still hate.

[rajapakistani1]

Islam is the most dominant religion in earth.

Christianity is divided up into so many different religions. Christians in Spain will be different then the Christians in America. There are so many different Bibles but only 1 Quran.billions of muslims believe in that 1 Quran. Christians are divided up amongst themselves while the muslims are united. If u go to from one muslim country to the next u will find the same beliefs that are offered in the Quran unlike the christians.

[UstaskaOluja]

how do i know that islam was spread by the sword? Muslims came to my country 500 years ago raping, pillaging, murdering and kidnapping children for the Sultan's janissaries. They forced these little kids to become muslims, brainwashed them so much then used them  against my people. Muslims always go on about the crusade but deny their own brutal past such as the armenian and assyrian genocides. What hypocrites!

[rajapakistani1]

What about the Christians coming to North America and South America, and demolishing almost 90% of the Native Americans?? spreading all the diseases to the poor people, and also forcing the Indians to convert into Christianity

[UstaskaOluja]

muslims did the same thing you need to study history more. maybe not with disease that wascaused by the indigenous peoples not having imunity to european diseases. Muslims also massacred many people and forced many to convert like they did with my ancestors yet muslim hypocrites always think theya re better than everyone else. its amyth that islam wasnt spread by the sword jsut study history.

[BurpingZombie]

And I suppose Christianity is a religion of freedom? Have you checked out the bloody track record of the Spanish Inquisition or he Crusades? Don't confuse Islam with the cultures that have hijacked it for violent purposes. The vast majority of the world's Muslims are peaceloving. The media, however, chooses to portray the violent minority who are using it to justify bloodshed. It is impossible for a true practicing Muslim to be a terrorist.

[hanin65]

dear, i happen to be an American so what you are saying here is irrelevant.U want to talk about slavery? look at our history! If you would read you can see that the prophet requested that if someone did wrong and wanted expiation they should first free a slave. The best form of charity was freeing a slave-in long run slavery was gone.By the way, ALGEBRA, csection, geometry, astrolab,and medical advancement when the rest of the world was in the dark ages are from Muslims.w/o these -no youtube lol

[Jakemcstud]

use common sense, not blind submission to writing 2,000 years ago

[hanin65]

Jake, i wish i could make you happy by saying its blind submission but no,, most converts study this very hard before making such a strong decision. Have you ever picked up a translation of the Quran and read something? many things you may find shocking but need explainations and relavance to what it talks about (maybe a specific battle).Some people think they can understand its meanings without explanation. but not true, such as hitting a wife.people take it out of context w/o knowing d rules.

[dhyleck]

U said that "use common sense not blind submission to a writing 2000 years old" I say the same to u. We submit to the writing because it makes sense to us whether it is 2000 years old or 2 years old is irrelevant. As long as it makes sense we will follow it. like Hanin said, as muslims we are commanded by our religion to acquire knowledge, in other words to gain knowledge is an act of worship. We are required to study the quran objectively, we believe that truth stands clear from falsehood.

[hanin65]

personally no. but many of my best friends live there. and i have seen eyewitness footage. It is like child abuse, the abused grows up to do similar as the abuser had done, and this is what is going on.  Would you accept that someone comes and kicks you out of your house with few hours to gather your clothes and leave before they kill your family? My in laws still have the keys to a house that they can no longer return to. Count the dead, the numbers speak louder than anywords.God almighty sees

[sexyarii]

When you think Muslim Ummah in the 20th Century:

Armenian Genocide - 1.5 Million butchered and starved to death by the Muslims

Pontic Genocide - 350,000 people butchered by the Muslims

Assyrian Genocide - 750,000 people brutally butchered by the Muslims

[hanin65]

the armenian genocide is not accurate. Many where displaced to areas such as lebanon, syria, etc..

and we all know that history books are published and written often times with incorrect information. so i dont hold much water to them. Even my dad who is a staunch christian told me this before 30 years.2nd: why dont you look at what goes on in Bosnia, Iraq, Chechneya, Kosovo, Palestine, Kashmer, tell me that those are not massacres also. You need to differentiate between religion and politics.

[hannahr77]

han

so tell us what is going on in plestine? have you ever been to palestine?

[saqib1989]

when you think christianity in the century,

1) Holocaust nuff sed (i kno they are bad people, but they exist in Islam as well dont they?)

BTW. there are more...but to encourage learning, please research so tht u can learn about Muslims as well instead of your biased views and assumptions.

[sexyarii]

SPAIN - 70% of all incarcerated Criminals are Muslim

FRANCE - 50%-60% of all incarcerated criminals are Muslim

NETHERLANDS - 20% of youth prisoners are Muslim, 26% of the entire prison population.

[saqib1989]

well obviously there are bad people in every religion...also note that some of these peoples would be involved in crime because when they immigrate, they move in to "ghettoes" of the cities as they dont know many people.

[umarnawazkhan]

Islam world Order 4 Life

Bible is not the word of God.

[hannahr77]

um

Hmm islam is world chaos and 4 death, yes the Bible is the WORD of the LIVING LOVING GOD, now have a nice weekend and repent to JESUS CHRIST for your sins and get saved there is no salvation in islam only death and destruction

[goldensea099]

i see this website became for illiterate people who dont have moral,and thier mouths full of lies and disrespect for others.u as muslim u shoul all of u have the picture of SHaik Mohammad Maktoom head of Dubai Goverment and obay such an educated & real & good man like him ,not racist people and terrorist like bin laden.u went so far radical muslims.christians are the ones who gave the light of civilisation to the world . (dont bite the hand which does feed u)

[satanischristian]

muslims follow eye for an eye law of the bible.

muslims hit bcak who try 2 hit them.

muslims r terrorists to the real terrorists of the world that is america,israel etc...

[hanin65]

salam, i wish that you would change ur name though cus saying satan is christian is just wrong and this is not what islam teaches us is it.... the prophet pbuh taught us tolerance and in the Quran is tells us to still be respectfull and use good words. fi amanillah.

[satanischristian]

christianity was spread by sword.

go & study history of latin america,asia & even europe where christianity was pushed down people's throats by force.

islam is the truth bcoz even today islam is spreading all over the world but where is the force,which muslim is forcing people 2 accept islam today?none

it is the truth of islam which people with mind understood & accepted it & did not fall into the trap of satanists who want 2 do negative propoganda against islam.

[muhammad269]

if you see something bad (against islam)

you stop it with your hand

if you cant then

you stop with your mouth (speach)

if you still cant then

you hate it in your heart

and that is the lowest of iman

[OnlineBibleMinistry]

And your Spanish history is wrong. Although there was Muslim rule in Spain (Iberia) the population was not majority Muslim and then forced (back) to Christianity as you claim.

[4rif19nop]

It is the western colonialism that spread the christianity, that is a fact.

[OnlineBibleMinistry]

There was no major Greek-Turk population exchange until 1923. Most of the native Greeks who were forced to convert (Cretan Greek speakers) were crypto-Christians who reverted back to Christianity after the expulsion.

Your history is very wrong.

(Crete's history is different to the rest of Greece, especially considering the Ottoman occupations)

[hannahr77]

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it's not machmad in hebrew its machamadim and "im" is plural masculine, it's however also used if you have a crowd of mixed group of ppl like man and women it's also "im" in hebrew like this chaverim plural masculine chaver ot plural female, means friends, in a mixed group of ppl its always chaverim, its from the text you can se if its a mixed group or a man/woman

[OnlineBibleMinistry]

Pardon?

Song of Solomon is mentioned in the video?

[OnlineBibleMinistry]

Islam being spread by the sword is found in the Muslim record of history as well as secular history books.

Why they deny it is a mystery.

And I wouldn't trust Jalal's opinion on anything. In person he is arrogant and ignorant - not a good combination for anyone.

[OnlineBibleMinistry]

Copied this from a few pages back -

I agree with this opinion which was so unjustly attacked

[adarti]

Christianity was infact spread by the sword throughout all of Spain as it was Muslim until the Catholics came and forced them to convert to christian or be killed or sent to Morroco thats why so many Morrocans are light, and look at the Philiphines, North/south america ect, the only reason that people claim Islam was spread by the sword is Because Islam is a Unviversal System not just religion used for politics, economy ect and hence was an 'empire' who united under one flag not divided.

[2Xlovermoe]

i hate to remind you, of all people the white christian should judge no one. How was America conqured from , via GUNS, SLAVERY, MASS EXTinction of native.

[hannahr77]

2x

why remind us if you hate it let it go my friend hate leads to hell

[OnlineBibleMinistry]

I have relatives who were persecuted by the Turks for not accepting Islam in both Crete and Constantinople.

In Crete one of my ancestors was murdered by Muslims for refusing to renounce Christianity. During the Ottomon time in Crete they forced Islam upon the people and those who were forced to convert immediately renounced Islam to their true religion once the Muslims aggressors were expelled.

Year Muslims

1821 47%

1910 8%

[OnlineBibleMinistry]

Copied this from a few pages back -

I agree with this opinion which was so unjustly attacked. My family ancestry has a similar story.

[adarti]

Lsn i am of pure Greek Decent, the greeks never converted to muslim then back to Christain the reason why so many greeks died was because they were constanlty fighting the Turks as my ppl are very stubborn and racist againt the Persians who were the Ottomans

[adarti]

and as far as the populations thats because on March 25, 1821 Greece was offical out of Ottoman rule and from that period on massive exchanges of Muslims and Christians were done throughout the countries for many years,and any greek who was muslim was sent to Turky as he was considered a Turk and vis versa hence the massively decreasing Muslim population in Greece over those years up until around 1920's or so

[dewimelkite]

i didnt post a hateful comment, although you have deleted it I will refresh your memory. I said that it is totally weird to have a rule saying you cant kill this type of person or this type etc.. AND I SAID THAT CHRISTIANS ARE TAUGHT IT IS WRONG TO KILL ANYONE. we are taught to love our enemies. I have muslim friends and family that I love and I certainly don't go around with a distorted view of islam. also I would just like to say that a Christian cannot be racist or sexist. why?

[dewimelkite]

because we believe A woman gave birth to GOD by choice. we cant be racist because we were first called christians in antioch.. which is an eastern country.

[neuropakho]

So when you invaded my country (Spain) the year 711 how did you do it, by the sword or by "peace"? When you even got to enter what now is Austria, what was that, a "peace parole"? Why is it that you are the only religion that is at war with the rest? Why the rest of religions are not at war with eacht other? How many people die in the name of Islam today? How many are threatened just due to criticism. How many people die in the name of the rest of religions? Do you REALLY believe your own lies?

[chickenfevers]

did you watch the documentary called When The Moors Ruled Europa. Its a documentary about the invasion of Spain. Its pretty cool, brings different ideas.

Just type in the title and you can watch it on youtube.

[TheOmnissiah]

are you serious...? Do you think that christians and jews didn't fight each other? do you think catholics and prodistants didn't fight?? seriously dude, they were butchering each otehr long before the muslims invaded.

[neuropakho]

Dude, I know that, and I don't deny that the history of the Church is tainted with big amounts of blood, I KNOW THE PAST. What I say is that TODAY, TODAY, TODAY many years after the French Revolution and second Vatican Council, religious wars are over, because churches have lost political power. However, there's still one whose acolits keep on killing in the name of God, and that is Islam. And if you don't believe me, watch the news. THE WEST MOVED ON, WE CHANGED, BUT THEY HAVEN'T.

[satanischristian]

the west still practices christian terrorism which is preaached in the bible but today they use disguise of democracy.

muslims will kill in the name of GOD who fight them,oppress them,kill thr children,occupy thr lands etc..

muslims dont practice ur filthy law called turn the other cheek,which u christians also dont practice.if u hit me,u also will b hit.

dont expect 4rm muslims that uchristians,jews do terrorism against muslims & muslims will sit back quite doing nothing.

[neuropakho]

Then explain to me why the Pope said firmly and repeatedly NO to both wars, Iraq and Afghanistan. The Church doesn't hold political power any more in the West. Yes, you're under attack, but NOT BY CHRISTIANS PER SE. This is a religious war only for you. And another question: if the problem with the Jews is a territorial problem in Israel/Palestine, why is it that the rest of the Muslim world has made it their problem too? I have my own answer to that, let's see what you have to say.

[adarti]

My friend look at all of these so called Christian nations, look at how diminished the peoples morals are , and government polices which basically oppress and enslave the people workin there 9 to 5s while the politicans are trecherous spreadiny lies and propoganda for their own monetary gain not for the people however disregard the governments as most 'Muslim' leaders are corrupted aswell, if you look at the morals and actions of normal muslims compared to normal christains youll find a great..

[adarti]

differences, as the Christians in majority have been stripped of their relgion and are mostly Atheiests who beleive in evolution, while muslims refute evolution and moral degradation with pure facts and logic and are taking stands against those trying to strip us of our religion to make a one world secular order which should b opposed by all true Christians Jews and Muslims and rather follow God's clear Laws not man's which are full of distortion and loop holes.

[2Xlovermoe]

you guys butchered the jews in Rome and Jersuaslem; you should not speak and the indians

[sweetkitty20008]

Wat r you talking about?? Know your facts "In 1099, Jerusalem was conquered by the Crusaders, who massacred most of its Muslim inhabitants and the remnants of the Jewish inhabitants; the Crusaders later expelled the native Christian population. By early June 1099 Jerusalems population had declined from 70,000 to less than 30,000. According to Benjamin of Tudela, Two hundred Jews were left in the city in 1173" So you should'ne be the one talking

[hannahr77]

swe

what native Christians are you talking abt?

[Joounes]

Now the hadith sexyarii was talking about simply means that the (hukm) ruling of Allah should be all over the world. That includes Politics, economics, judicial system and all other official errands. But if you are a kafir you should pay jizzia, wich will continue untill Jesus comes back. Thats whats meant by the hadith. And if you want historical proof, read about the war during the reign of Abu bakr between the muslims and the mortaddin (apostates).

[Joounes]

Now the hadith sexyarii was talking about simply means that the (hukm) ruling of Allah should be all over the world. That includes Politics, economics, judicial system and all other official errands. But if you are a kafir you should pay jizzia, wich will continue untill Jesus comes back. Thats whats meant by the hadith. And if you want historical proof, read about the war during the rain of Abu bakr between the muslims and the mortaddin (apostates).

[Joounes]

sexyarii since there is no logic in your comments, i would like too see some statistics and proof, especially about the part where you say that muslims have been persecuting a minority of kafirs for no reason. Why would they care first of all? Number two, the quran clearly say: "There is no compulsion in religion" Quran Surat al Baqara 2:255. So bring some substance too your arguments and provide us with authentic proof for your claims.

[waladcoool]

those who comment with vulgar and taboo language they give a bad image of Christianity and show how narrow minded and racist they are,please keep comments clean .

[safeshah]

Pope is German,, which makes him automatically a racist.

[wallyman4260]

allah is not the real GOD and MUHamed is not his messenger.

[1212erer1212]

do u know the real god ? tell me plz {T,T}

[hannahr77]

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And there is only ONE TRUE GOD and that's the HOLY ONE OF ISRAEL, not the unholy one of arabia, period

[hannahr77]

wal

YES alah is nothing but an idol a fake moon god invented by the fals prophet muhammad,

[2Xlovermoe]

Hey hannah; Allah is the god of Abraham , Jesus, Jacob, Isaac and all of the great prophets and righteous men and women of bani Israel. The rest of Israel was dancing naked in front of the gold calf.

[hannahr77]

2x

In noway is alah the god of Abraham or any one to that matter alah is an idol period so how can he be a god of any one?

catholicism and islam goes hand in hand both are destined for hell

[hanin65]

great post-- if they would just pick up the quran and read it from cover to cover they would see and understand so much more, but they are afraid.

[islamoscope]

Poor little Muslims in denial.

[hannahr77]

isalamoscope

yeah as always muslims are in denial, must be pretty tiresome always to be in denial, one slip of the tongue and of goes your head or get a noose around your neck

[saleha250]

Looks to me like the only person in denial is you.

Writing books or holding interviews to absolve the deliberate lies being spread about Islam is not deemed as being in a state of 'denial'.

Even non-Muslims who don't fully agree with the concepts of Islam know that.

I usually tell people to research facts before they say things, but for you it seems like you need to research your vocabulary.

[sexyarii]

I was right!

You people can't refute me so you go to insults.

This can only be taken as you conceding to no response.

[enambabu]

Masaallah, May Allah increase our knowledge..

[saqib1989]

"As I said earlier - why do you deny the spreading of Islam by the sword when Islamic and Secular historical sources are filled with examples?" - wut proof??? also even if u hav evidence cos its very unlikely going to be irrefutable proof, it is all down to interpretation and the dependability.

nd also i onlee lost sum of ma respect for u...i still dnt h8 u cos i dnt kno u...but i do kno wut u r sayin which has made me lost sum respect...see wut im sayin

[voiceofreasoning]

saqib1989

History makes it clear however that the legend of fanatical Muslims sweeping through the world and forcing Islam at the point of the sword upon conquered races is one of the most fanatically absurd myths that historians have ever repeated. (De Lacy O Leary, in Islam at he cross road, London 1923, p.8)

[saqib1989]

thanks man :)

[shinobiung]

look how the idiot is thumbing his/her own comments

[shinobiung]

it doesnt make sense, your deleting some quality posts and keeping the rubbish posted by the fool sexyyari

[Luqmaan1]

Masha Allah great bayan. for anyone opposing this Sheikh please don't bring baseless arguments and criticisim but please debate with an open mind (if there is any debate for this issue!!)

[sexyarii]

Honestly, why are you lying about me? Why are you lying to everyone? Why are you so disrespectful and rude?

Going to such low deceptive tactics exposes that you cannot rebut my historically and theologically accurate claims.

[saqib1989]

so all im sayin is u mite hav evidence but keep it to urself cos its down to interpretation and u hav ur interpretation and everyone has their own. thanks.

[sexyarii]

It saddens me that when you people can't defend your lies you jump off to attacking others with more lies.

Honesty is the best policy. Try and put it into practice one day.

[sexyarii]

As I said earlier - why do you deny the spreading of Islam by the sword when Islamic and Secular historical sources are filled with examples?

Honestly, cowardly attacking me for raising this point is the most pathetic rebuttal you could have provided.

[hanin65]

Dear, sometimes books are not always factual and in some cases like the three tribes that were "massacred" by muslims, this is not factual. The non muslims (jews in that area) kept causing strife and crimes until the muslims found they had to defend themselves and one tribe left, the other faught and then forced to flee, and the third refused to leave so they faught till surrenderd. History books are not always accurate.

[Amirsoosool]

In 33:36 did he say:

Let's talk about this mercy sh**?

LOL

[romanali1]

he said "Let's talk about the mercy, Sheikh"

(not sh*t)

It wasn't too clear, but listen to it again. :)

[Amirsoosool]

I know he didn't say it, But it was funny.

[naddogg89]

Oh I look Silly? I don't see your point of islam being spread by the sword through this stated hadith, but since your a scholar and know how to interpret Sahih Bukhari!!! I guess I'll take your word, for it!

Your assumption was wrong I read it, why did you cut it short? You didn't include the entire hadith? do you know what a Hadith is, do you know who it was narrated by or are you just another guy on YOUTUBE who thinks people care what they think

[sexyarii]

I don't care what you think of me - did I ever allude to that...ever?

Why wasn't an 800 character hadith included in a comment box with a 500 character limit? I'll let you work that out yourself, genius.

As is evident, you couldn't refute my statement so you went straight to talking crap.

[sexyarii]

"Allah's Apostle said, 'I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.' And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally and their reckoning will be with Allah.'"

Sahih Bukhari V1B8N387

[AuthenticDeen]

You did not finish the hadeeth. Here it is fully.

Narrated Anas bin Malik:

Allah's Apostle said, "I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.' And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally and their reckoning will be with Allah."

[AuthenticDeen]

You did not finish the hadeeth. Here it is the rest of it.

Narrated Maimun ibn Siyah that he asked Anas bin Malik, "O Abu Hamza! What makes the life and property of a person sacred?" He replied, "Whoever says, 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah', faces our Qibla during the prayers, prays like us and eats our slaughtered animal, then he is a Muslim, and has got the same rights and obligations as other Muslims have."

[shinobiung]

in keeping with tradition the pope is a liar.

[oofeewise]

hahaha the pope is too ignorant and yes we're ruining their evil dream, too bad ,, less people accept truths than lies, less people accept humbleness than wealth ,, thats y we're the strangers ,, haha

[oofeewise]

Christianity was spreaded by the sword, we didnt try to spread that hatred =) Philippines, the whole of the Americas, the natives were slaughtered, they lost everything, souther part africa, everywhere ,, =))) alhamdulillah

[shinobiung]

also the 800 yrs of crusades, christian canabals  homosexuals and tyrants descended on peacful people. Then theres the british empire and the Australia.

[kaiwaig]

But ramming Islam down the throats of conquered countries is considered ok?

[Joounes]

No city was ever forced to become muslim, but every town conquered by islamic forces was forced too accept islamic ruling. And not in any aspect does that include becoming muslim. Exept in Mackah or Madina, so you need to seperate between the terms.

[sexyarii]

Sorry but you are wrong. I have relatives who were persecuted by the Turks for not accepting Islam in both Crete and Constantinople.

In Crete one of my ancestors was murdered by Muslims for refusing to renounce Christianity. During the Ottomon time in Crete they forced Islam upon the people and those who were forced to convert immediately renounced Islam to their true religion once the Muslims aggressors were expelled.

Year Muslims

1821 47%

1910 8%

[LothairLorraine]

Was any town forced to become Muslim? Absolutely! All the evidence can be found in the Hisory of al-Tabari. Read the volumes dealing with the conquest of Iran, Iraq and Egypt. All the proof is clear and present.

[sexyarii]

Islam being spread by the sword is found in the Muslim record of history as well as secular history books.

Why they deny it is a mystery.

And I wouldn't trust Jalal's opinion on anything. In person he is arrogant and ignorant - not a good combination for anyone.

[naddogg89]

Can you please show me where in muslim books muslims are commanded to spread islam by the sword? Please

[sexyarii]

I assume you didn't even bother to read my last post before making your comment.

You look pretty silly right now

[saqib1989]

"Your assumption was wrong I read it, why did you cut it short? You didn't include the entire hadith? do you know what a Hadith is, do you know who it was narrated by or are you just another guy on YOUTUBE who thinks people care what they think "

as u sed...

"You look pretty silly right now"

[sexyarii]

Excuse me?

Go, go baseless illogical insults!

[saqib1989]

illogical...it jus sounded ironic...

wut is reeli illogical is y ur here if all u got is hate for human beings

[sexyarii]

Once again, excuse me?

Hate for human beings?

What on earth are you on about?

Honestly, I would prefer it if you avoided lying about me.

[saqib1989]

well i aint lyin abt u i hope...cos last time i chekd muslims are humans,

and i aint gt no hate for n e one, but obviously u gt hate for muslims but i still dnt understand y u here if u aint gt nutin useful to say?? i cud go nd bomb on sum videos but i dnt cos i gt sumfin called respects...i cud go sayin certain things abt CATHOLIC PRIESTS and CHILDREN and then say "I GT PROOF" but i dnt...cos i gt respect for catholics and more important for ma peeps who r not jus muslims but rather earthlings

[sexyarii]

Excuse me, once again?

Of course you are lying. You said I am full of hate for human beings.

Was there any reason for you to say this? Of course not!

Don't pretend you have respect as your lie about me clearly demonstrates you are very disrespectful.

[saqib1989]

u've gt this all wrong...i hav no respect for u at the moment because u r insulting a group of human beings(namely muslims). I have made no lie but perhaps i have made an assumption, as a result of ur previous comments. Nd yes there is reason y i sed u hav h8 towards humans, for saving a person is like saving humanity but hatin on a person is like h8in on humanity as well.

I hope u understand wut i m sayin which is -

If one h8s a group of pppl(in this case muslims) - its like h8in humanity.

[sexyarii]

But I didn't do any of the false claims you are attributing to me.

When did I hate on anyone? It is you who has been hating on me for no reason. By your logic it is you who is hating on humanity.

Look in the mirror first.

[saidpls]

"Allah does not forbid you to deal justly and kindly with those who fought not against you on account of religion and did not drive you out of your homes. Verily, Allah loves those who deal with equity." Quran(60-8)

[siara191]

mashalah

[dewimelkite]

umm... why would anyone need to have a rule so specific about whom you cannot murder? Christians are taught not to kill ANYONE. quite obviously most of the peoples of the world have never killed their daughters. What a stupid point for that man to make.

[az11z9]

You have problem with what he said? what's the problem?

[adarti]

yes Christians are taught not to kill anyone which is in the 10 commandments I believe which all major monothesitic religions(Judaism,Christianity­,and Islam) beleive in, however in Islam it is more specific like in the case of a murderer to be killed ect. However Christians do not have any right according to their religion to kill at any time, so what was the crusades all about,colonization and whats going on today??For crusaders and colonizers spreading Christianity by killing isnt accepted

[dewimelkite]

the crusades were about land. both sides were to blame for the murder. but tell me whom were the invaders? christians or muslims. the answer of course (even though there were many western christians involved) is that the crusades were in response to muslim aggression and discrimination.

[adarti]

When did muslims ever try and invade Britan were alot of the crusaders came from and secondly the muslims were not aggresive they were only defensive, when the Christains took over Jerusalem they would slaughter muslims n throw there bodies up agaisnt the walls of mosques and when the Muslims won back thier provinces they didnt persecute any Christians and slaughter the people like the christians did in fact they were given the opportunity to revert to muslim stay there as citizens or go back.

[adarti]

infact many desendants from the crusaders who stayed can still be seen in Jordan there are white blonde haired green and blue eyes Beduins who who are not of french colonial desent they claim to be Jordinians which they clearly are not, and i didnt delete your comment i have no way how to and if you look my posts are gone also.

[kaiwaig]

Then you know fuck all about what the pope did of that time in regards to this issue. Get a history book and learn something for a change instead of spouting shit.

[satanischristian]

islam was not pushed down peoples throats like the christians did.

ur a idiot 2 believe that bcoz even today islam is the fastest accepted religion by non muslims in the world & who is forcing them?

christians just cant tolerate the fact that islam bought back monotheism 2 the world which was almost killed by christianity,islam came 2 liberate people 4rm christian terrorism which was practiced by the byzantine empire of that time.

[hanin65]

do me a favor and clean your mouth first before you open it. You can make your points much better with smart language

[kaiwaig]

Interesting, you attack people for how they say something rather than what they say; speaks volumes for the lack of intellectual honesty with the Muslim community. You can't defend your cult so instead you complain about the method in which the ideas are communicated.

[saqib1989]

well isnt the medium important too? the way something is communicated is part of the message after all...

[kaiwaig]

No it isn't. If you need to complain about swear words (which actually increase emphasis and elevate the power of the words) then you've lost the argument. Stick to the subject and stop getting dragged into whether swear words are used or not. The moment you start whining about swear words is the moment you say, "I can't debate this person based on the content of what was said, so I'll sit here like a child complaining about whining about nothing to do with the conversation at hand".

[hannahr77]

ad

because jennah is reserved for jihadist not a young virgin girl being hung or beheaded for something she might or might not have done way to go islam way to go make this place a better place but plz do it without me I would rather be somewhere else like in heaven with JESUS CHRIS than here with islam ruling

[furian786]

addition to below reply for example, if a man/woman steals then his hands should be cut off. yes they should but there are conditions to this. The man/woman in the state they live in must be provided with all necessities etc etc. And if they get all this and they still steal then why not. And if this law was implemented im sure no one would steal. You must understand Islam is a perfect religion but people are not perfect. Please research before commenting

[hanin65]

Hannah, heaven is reserved for people who do good, are charitable, know the rules of brotherhood, help others, worship only God almighty and not any others next to Him be it Mary, or Jesus, or money or power etc. Yes those who defended Islam and die hope for heaven, but that doesnt mean it is reserved for them. Please educate yourself better.

[saqib1989]

jannah is just arabic for heaven

[adarti]

and as far as killing daughters in older times it was very common to kill a daughter because women were seen as inferior all acrosss the globe some cultures wouldnt kill thier daughthers they would just disown them as they didnt want them or the parents disown them however Islam came with a message that haveing a daughther or a son is a blessings and men and women are both equals, regardless of what distorted views you might have about this issue concerning islam...

[hannahr77]

ad

so it was common to kill daughters in older times, and this where done across the globe, hmm really now, and of course islam came to their rescue how noble of islam, the only problem I have with this is this why are daughters still being seen as inferior in islam? some woman even kill their new born babies if they are baby girls, and what abt the FGM, the stoning, hanging cutting of hands and feet, the raping of young girls before they get hung or beheaded, in case she is a virgin

[furian786]

what you are referring to is cultural not islamic. And wayward islamists who do not know what they are talking about like the taliban. In Islam if you research you will see that a women holds the highest place and is in now way below a women. And yes in olden times it was common to kill female daughters, and yes when Islam did come it did forbid this. The stoning, hanging etc is all with reasons and certain conditions.

[saqib1989]

isnt that what they did in China? not in Islam as far as I know, maybe if it is done by so called "muslims", but then it would be more of a cultural practice, for Islam prohibits such things

[adarti]

And lastly if you have nothing kind to polite to say why do you watch videos like this or any for that matter just to hate or criticze negatively?

[dewimelkite]

I watch to learn! and truly if you can give me any evidence of daughter slaying in europe or any civilized area (not china) I would eat my hat

[adarti]

"Many early civilizations, including the Greeks, left ailing babies on hillsides to die. Eskimos would kill one of most sets of twins; the Chinese would sacrifice an infant daughter to save the cost of a dowry. The English grappled with the not-uncommon killings of newborns by poor mothers and unmarried servant girls'.. From the New York Times Published: December 22, 1996

[adarti]

this is while england was a so called Christain nation not in the pagan times might i add.

[dewimelkite]

let me just add something that I think is overlooked here. The crusades were to re claim land that muslims had taken over. The natives of the land taken by the muslims sent for help and got it. You have given me a quote by the new york times.. If you are talking about a mother unable to afford to keep a child considering an abortion or something of that nature I understand the quote. infanticide did not occur in Britain you are mistaken.

[nmbr1rascal4eva]

whats his name? abu al rub? father of the god? can someone please correct my misunderstanding?

[adarti]

rub doesnt mean God im not sure what rub or alrub means but what you are thinking of is Rabbi or Rabb which is lord however it isnt pronounced rub so im not sure what his name means however it is not mean father of the God or lord as that is Haraam(forbidden) and if by my mistake it is lord then thats my mistake and God will punish him for having such a name.

[RuellAuled]

no he is thinking about RUB and it means Lord.

[salafeebrother]

I know him personnaly i asked him that he said his name means a spicy yogurt drink that waht rub is. its diffrent one rabb. and allah forbade changing your last name in the quran even if it is shirk.

[Mgtpputh]

Masha ALlah.....! May Allah reward this brother!

Jazakh Allah Khair

[j40505]

oh that was a nice and early reply!

thats the muslims for you, just buttons that the kuffar push and they react to it, simple reactionaries.

Its time for the muslims to dominate the topic discussed in public not the other way round.

don't get me wrong, this is still good that you have a reply to the pagan pope.

Muslims need to initiate.

[layziethabone]

jazak Allah khair

[eurosoul]

thank you,but you should have put it in the respone area for the other video

also there's a jewish israeli researcher proved that islamic age was the best age that all religions witnessed

[letsknow]

Jazakallah o khairan very nice, good ...