AMAZING...you censor and delete information you don't like...just like the atheists in communist countries. Do you think that has ANYTHING to do with objective investigation of facts and science????
@dotoree The hell are you talking about? I haven't done that, unless I've been going on youtube in my sleep and doing it without remembering it. Can you provide any evidence of censorship on my part?
@Setar Setar, I apologize...I had been on the same video on another page..and somehow changed to your page without realizing it and so didn't see the comments I expected. I HAVE been banned by several atheists and it's common for atheism to censor and ban ideas and evidence for its rivals. But, sorry for accusing you of something you didn't do.
@dotoree Common for atheism to censor and ban ideas and evidence for its rivals? I smell projection, because virtually all of the "atheists" here - as well as the theists who debunk poor apologetics and creationists - are staunch advocates of free speech. On the contrary, religion and the religious have a long history of censorship, ranging from false flagging/DMCAs all the way to the Inquisition.
@Setar Yes, it's true that some religions, esp. Catholics who are cousins to atheism and major enemies of the Bible (Catholicism and atheism have burned more Bibles and killed more Christians than any other agencies) have censored some. But atheism in govts has obliterated free speech (Russia, China, North Korea, etc.). In scientific establishments it obliterates following the evidence where it leads (bans all evidence for creation science) and many atheists on youtube have banned me and others.
@Setar On censorship, every country that has been officially atheist engaged in extreme forms of censorship and been about the worst violators of freedom of speech in history. The only comparable entity to atheist censorship and suppression of freedom and human rights and liberty would be the Catholic church..which ironically is a cousin of atheism in significant ways (burning many 1000s of Bibles and people who tried to read them) and replacing God's instructions with man's traditions.
@Setar Even in so called free countries,atheists have deceived people into thinking that apriori bias is rational&that no evidence that points to anything except their materialism should be allowed into public schools, academia &often even the media. Atheists are advocates of free speech? That's one of the biggest jokes in history...the only free speech most of them tolerate is speech that supports their ideas. Quite a few of them have also banned me personally from commenting here on youtube.
Sorry, but talkorigins is so dishonest/ignorant so often. “The failure to recognize the importance of introns [so-called junk DNA] may well go down as one of the biggest mistakes in the history of molecular biology.” John S. Mattick, as quoted by W. Wayt Gibbs, “The Unseen Genome: Gems among the Junk,” Scientific American, Vol. 289, November 2003, pp. 49–50.
“What was damned as junk because it was not understood may, in fact, turn out to be the very basis of human complexity.” Ibid., p. 52.
@dotoree Except that this has been addressed by TalkOrigins. If you'd actually read claim CB130, you'd find that we have known for a long time that some "junk" DNA does have important functions.
Also, I love how you say "so often" yet only bring up one example that's not even a very good example =/
@Setar Sorry, but talkorigins didn't address it and is dishonest about so many things. I've visited them for 10 years and been frequently astounded at how many dishonest thing and logical fallacies they post. The ONLY and SOLE reason I don't post dozens if not 100s of cases, is because I have other priorities that are much more urgent, including a major lawsuit against criminals. But, with time I'll do it. Evolution directly hindered study of vestigial organs and junkDNA. Creation didn't.
@Setar I've read Talk Origins for over a decade and their site is often really deplorable scientifically and this cb130 section is embarrassingly ignorant of the issue. Evolutionists based on their myth said that there are vestigial organs and junk DNA left over from previous species that we evolved from. The problem is that we've found functions for nearly everything. Evolutions claim here has been soundly falsified & it hindered scientific investigation for decades in these areas.
@Setar Creation and Bible science have billions of confirmations from science and the Bible has numerous more from history that they are true and that God designed things. So creationists would assume that everything has some function (although sin has caused some degeneration and corruption of the original design, so we should expect some mistakes&damage, and viruses and ancient and modern mixing of DNA could have an impact too) and would advance science in finding that function,not hinder it
@dotoree What confirmations? Pi is not 3, there was no global flood, and if our bodies were designed then God must be MacGyver =/ As for historical confirmations? Corroborate Jesus' resurrection with extra-Biblical documentation (I made a short video on this in response to a claim by ThickShades that Jesus was resurrected) and then we'll talk.
...far better than the evidence for Alexander the Great for example.
The problem with the vast majority of arguments of atheists is that they make one standard for their ideas and for that of secular history and science..and then a completely different standard for the Bible. Some are unaware that they do this. Maybe you are. But, this is deeply dishonest, immoral and a violation of a genuine search for truth. Another serious problem is the blurring of definitions that distorts history.
A) This is a dishonest standard. Historians don't ask for confirmation of events within Rome or Greece from outside sources. Most of history is based on witnesses who are in the same group they are writing about.
B) But, we do have testimony both within the Bible, from the enemies of Christians (the Jewish leaders) and from other sources as well. And this evidence is better than that of many things in history...
@Setar Sorry, I missed this. I'm extremely busy now, so can't answer in detail, but
A) The Bible never claims that pi=3.
B) look at /watch?v=Id2rZS59xSE and tell me with a straight face that there is a better chance that all that complexity came about by accident than by a designer. Would you ban evidence that a painting was created by an artist or an engine designed by an engineer? That would be deceitful bias. But, banning evidence for a creator is the same thing.
@Setar There are billions of confirmations of creationist biogenesis against the establishments idea of spontaneous generation...billions of confirmations of creationist natural selection (speciation from the species to family level) published long before Darwin's NS (speciation from family to kingdom levels). Many other examples. Why don't you question the establishment's thinking? This is how nearly every advance in science has happened. Also, why have bias toward your own death?
@Setar On evidence for a flood...there's a ton of it. See here for example:
watch?v=D6JWCMG8f3M
Many articles and programs in science journals talk about mass extinctions in history and massive cataclyms and the evidence. They try to attribute it to other things (like a comet for example)...but the evidence cited fits extremely well with a world wide flood (and one creationist theory by Dr. Walter Brown of MIT is that a comet was instrumental in causing this).
WTF?!
You're taking trolling way to far.............. get outta your moms basement bud.
JoshuaFVrooman 3 months ago
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Atheists believe that objects made them what they are.
Evolution is an absolute disgrace to science.
Objects never order anything, mutations never order anything and natural selection will only select what has already been ordered.
Evolution is so irrational that it should be removed from all classrooms.
watch?v=HoKVVYJ8KJM
JungleJargon 4 months ago
AMAZING...you censor and delete information you don't like...just like the atheists in communist countries. Do you think that has ANYTHING to do with objective investigation of facts and science????
dotoree 1 year ago
@dotoree The hell are you talking about? I haven't done that, unless I've been going on youtube in my sleep and doing it without remembering it. Can you provide any evidence of censorship on my part?
Setar 1 year ago
@Setar Setar, I apologize...I had been on the same video on another page..and somehow changed to your page without realizing it and so didn't see the comments I expected. I HAVE been banned by several atheists and it's common for atheism to censor and ban ideas and evidence for its rivals. But, sorry for accusing you of something you didn't do.
dotoree 1 year ago
@dotoree Common for atheism to censor and ban ideas and evidence for its rivals? I smell projection, because virtually all of the "atheists" here - as well as the theists who debunk poor apologetics and creationists - are staunch advocates of free speech. On the contrary, religion and the religious have a long history of censorship, ranging from false flagging/DMCAs all the way to the Inquisition.
Setar 1 year ago
@Setar Yes, it's true that some religions, esp. Catholics who are cousins to atheism and major enemies of the Bible (Catholicism and atheism have burned more Bibles and killed more Christians than any other agencies) have censored some. But atheism in govts has obliterated free speech (Russia, China, North Korea, etc.). In scientific establishments it obliterates following the evidence where it leads (bans all evidence for creation science) and many atheists on youtube have banned me and others.
dotoree 1 year ago
@Setar On censorship, every country that has been officially atheist engaged in extreme forms of censorship and been about the worst violators of freedom of speech in history. The only comparable entity to atheist censorship and suppression of freedom and human rights and liberty would be the Catholic church..which ironically is a cousin of atheism in significant ways (burning many 1000s of Bibles and people who tried to read them) and replacing God's instructions with man's traditions.
dotoree 1 year ago
@Setar Even in so called free countries,atheists have deceived people into thinking that apriori bias is rational&that no evidence that points to anything except their materialism should be allowed into public schools, academia &often even the media. Atheists are advocates of free speech? That's one of the biggest jokes in history...the only free speech most of them tolerate is speech that supports their ideas. Quite a few of them have also banned me personally from commenting here on youtube.
dotoree 1 year ago
Sorry, but talkorigins is so dishonest/ignorant so often. “The failure to recognize the importance of introns [so-called junk DNA] may well go down as one of the biggest mistakes in the history of molecular biology.” John S. Mattick, as quoted by W. Wayt Gibbs, “The Unseen Genome: Gems among the Junk,” Scientific American, Vol. 289, November 2003, pp. 49–50.
“What was damned as junk because it was not understood may, in fact, turn out to be the very basis of human complexity.” Ibid., p. 52.
dotoree 1 year ago
@dotoree Except that this has been addressed by TalkOrigins. If you'd actually read claim CB130, you'd find that we have known for a long time that some "junk" DNA does have important functions.
Also, I love how you say "so often" yet only bring up one example that's not even a very good example =/
Setar 1 year ago
@Setar Sorry, but talkorigins didn't address it and is dishonest about so many things. I've visited them for 10 years and been frequently astounded at how many dishonest thing and logical fallacies they post. The ONLY and SOLE reason I don't post dozens if not 100s of cases, is because I have other priorities that are much more urgent, including a major lawsuit against criminals. But, with time I'll do it. Evolution directly hindered study of vestigial organs and junkDNA. Creation didn't.
dotoree 1 year ago
@Setar I've read Talk Origins for over a decade and their site is often really deplorable scientifically and this cb130 section is embarrassingly ignorant of the issue. Evolutionists based on their myth said that there are vestigial organs and junk DNA left over from previous species that we evolved from. The problem is that we've found functions for nearly everything. Evolutions claim here has been soundly falsified & it hindered scientific investigation for decades in these areas.
dotoree 1 year ago
@Setar Creation and Bible science have billions of confirmations from science and the Bible has numerous more from history that they are true and that God designed things. So creationists would assume that everything has some function (although sin has caused some degeneration and corruption of the original design, so we should expect some mistakes&damage, and viruses and ancient and modern mixing of DNA could have an impact too) and would advance science in finding that function,not hinder it
dotoree 1 year ago
@dotoree What confirmations? Pi is not 3, there was no global flood, and if our bodies were designed then God must be MacGyver =/ As for historical confirmations? Corroborate Jesus' resurrection with extra-Biblical documentation (I made a short video on this in response to a claim by ThickShades that Jesus was resurrected) and then we'll talk.
Setar 1 year ago
...far better than the evidence for Alexander the Great for example.
The problem with the vast majority of arguments of atheists is that they make one standard for their ideas and for that of secular history and science..and then a completely different standard for the Bible. Some are unaware that they do this. Maybe you are. But, this is deeply dishonest, immoral and a violation of a genuine search for truth. Another serious problem is the blurring of definitions that distorts history.
dotoree 1 year ago
Regarding Jesus and extra biblical corroboration:
A) This is a dishonest standard. Historians don't ask for confirmation of events within Rome or Greece from outside sources. Most of history is based on witnesses who are in the same group they are writing about.
B) But, we do have testimony both within the Bible, from the enemies of Christians (the Jewish leaders) and from other sources as well. And this evidence is better than that of many things in history...
dotoree 1 year ago
@Setar Sorry, I missed this. I'm extremely busy now, so can't answer in detail, but
A) The Bible never claims that pi=3.
B) look at /watch?v=Id2rZS59xSE and tell me with a straight face that there is a better chance that all that complexity came about by accident than by a designer. Would you ban evidence that a painting was created by an artist or an engine designed by an engineer? That would be deceitful bias. But, banning evidence for a creator is the same thing.
dotoree 1 year ago
@Setar There are billions of confirmations of creationist biogenesis against the establishments idea of spontaneous generation...billions of confirmations of creationist natural selection (speciation from the species to family level) published long before Darwin's NS (speciation from family to kingdom levels). Many other examples. Why don't you question the establishment's thinking? This is how nearly every advance in science has happened. Also, why have bias toward your own death?
dotoree 1 year ago
@Setar On evidence for a flood...there's a ton of it. See here for example:
watch?v=D6JWCMG8f3M
Many articles and programs in science journals talk about mass extinctions in history and massive cataclyms and the evidence. They try to attribute it to other things (like a comet for example)...but the evidence cited fits extremely well with a world wide flood (and one creationist theory by Dr. Walter Brown of MIT is that a comet was instrumental in causing this).
dotoree 1 year ago
The "Bible" is the Greatest work of Pagan Mythology Ever Writ.
AnonymousWhitePerson 1 year ago