wow... This is one of those pieces that I can see why people were so shocked and appalled by it in the past, but at the same time, why it has endured as such an amazing piece of composition. Love it
being from an American school of thought, I take no offense to anything said in your comment. Actually, I found it rather enlightening. I might add, it is important to any individual that he or she is aware of the sound they would like to produce at all times. The more I learn about the timpani, the more I see the history in my teachers approach. I am comfortable modeling my approach after his because I know that his technique has been proven in musical situations occurring elsewhere...
...As my education progresses and I encounter opportunities to study under other musicians, my hope is to gain perspective from as many different angles I can. The more knowledge we can foster about any subject, the better we are equipped to succeed in future decision making processes.
What is your philosophy on sitting lower? I'm really just curious as to your side of this. I was always taught to be nearly standing and not sitting at all. Is it because you want your wrists to be as parallel to the heads as possible? I guess that would be proper Duff technique, but would you not agree that you can get the same parallel wrist to the drum regardless of your height?
Hm. Please take no offence at this, none is meant whatsoever. I just think that Americans (note I'm making an assumption that you are, seeing as you mention Cloyd Duff) perhaps overthink these things a bit too much. I've always been told that you should just sit in your most comfortable, relaxed position. Just imagine you're sitting watching the TV, for example.
My philosophy is that if you are told to grip the stick like this, put this finger here, that one there, sit here, no not there, your
arms aren't exactly parallel to the floor, that's better NOW RELAX. It seems a bit counter-productive, don't you think? If you're thinking about how to grip (which is an awful word to use, I think I prefer 'hold') the stick all the time, how can you possibly be relaxed? And then how can you possibly get a good sound out of the drum?
I think this is the problem with American timpani playing (like I said, I don't want to offend anyone or get into an argument about this.
It's just a personal observation and I'd like to express it). The sound it tends to produce is just quite clunky and unpleasant, to my ears. Then again, I'm English and there is quite a big difference between the two schools.
Anyway. I basically said they're both sitting too high because to me, it looks like they're playing almost at knee level. And for me, and most people I've met, that's fairly uncomfortable. I can understand sitting almost that high if playing on a set of Ringers or Ludwig-Ringers, but I wouldn't normally. It's all personal, anyway. There's no right or wrong way to play anything. It's just unfortunate that so many people in this country and in America are still taught that there is.
it will be really great when you are able to tune a minor third, instead of a flatish major third. good luck.
timpani25 5 months ago
whoa
jin12345678 7 months ago
I'm really enjoying these "macro videos" of the Rite on Youtube. The shaking camera really makes up for the sound quality in terms of excitement.
Well played too, for an early rehearsal, may I say. Is there a video of the final performance available?
JohnHillEU 8 months ago
more women and timpanis please!
madberlin 10 months ago
What was it like with Rainer as the coach?
youngergermanpope 1 year ago
Wooooooo the 1st trombone was a half step sharp in the beginning and the last note came a bit too early, but still, this is an interesting video!
kongming819 1 year ago
Very nice and interesting.
ThePianoRebellion 2 years ago
Cool perspective!
Who is the girl? Is she a timpani student from Seegers? Or is she from america (because she is playing american set-up)?
marshmcdan 2 years ago
wow... This is one of those pieces that I can see why people were so shocked and appalled by it in the past, but at the same time, why it has endured as such an amazing piece of composition. Love it
BrachioInGen 2 years ago
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OJones,
being from an American school of thought, I take no offense to anything said in your comment. Actually, I found it rather enlightening. I might add, it is important to any individual that he or she is aware of the sound they would like to produce at all times. The more I learn about the timpani, the more I see the history in my teachers approach. I am comfortable modeling my approach after his because I know that his technique has been proven in musical situations occurring elsewhere...
DrumsAndMisc 2 years ago
...As my education progresses and I encounter opportunities to study under other musicians, my hope is to gain perspective from as many different angles I can. The more knowledge we can foster about any subject, the better we are equipped to succeed in future decision making processes.
DrumsAndMisc 2 years ago
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DrumsAndMisc 2 years ago
This perspectives is sooooooooo awesome.
ChastainProductions 2 years ago
Huuuuuh!!!
Kwanelauda 3 years ago
Who is the timpanist?
I like the way she plays (from the very little that you can see in the video)
pauljackson99 3 years ago
Andywank, you're so dumb. Quit trolling Youtube.
purplefunkrock 3 years ago
explosion drums???
andywank 3 years ago
Bad assness is what this is! Thanks for posting :)
linguamortua 3 years ago
You both need to sit lower. Much lower.
OJones777 3 years ago
What is your philosophy on sitting lower? I'm really just curious as to your side of this. I was always taught to be nearly standing and not sitting at all. Is it because you want your wrists to be as parallel to the heads as possible? I guess that would be proper Duff technique, but would you not agree that you can get the same parallel wrist to the drum regardless of your height?
SnareFlare07 3 years ago
Hm. Please take no offence at this, none is meant whatsoever. I just think that Americans (note I'm making an assumption that you are, seeing as you mention Cloyd Duff) perhaps overthink these things a bit too much. I've always been told that you should just sit in your most comfortable, relaxed position. Just imagine you're sitting watching the TV, for example.
My philosophy is that if you are told to grip the stick like this, put this finger here, that one there, sit here, no not there, your
OJones777 3 years ago
arms aren't exactly parallel to the floor, that's better NOW RELAX. It seems a bit counter-productive, don't you think? If you're thinking about how to grip (which is an awful word to use, I think I prefer 'hold') the stick all the time, how can you possibly be relaxed? And then how can you possibly get a good sound out of the drum?
I think this is the problem with American timpani playing (like I said, I don't want to offend anyone or get into an argument about this.
OJones777 3 years ago
It's just a personal observation and I'd like to express it). The sound it tends to produce is just quite clunky and unpleasant, to my ears. Then again, I'm English and there is quite a big difference between the two schools.
OJones777 3 years ago
Anyway. I basically said they're both sitting too high because to me, it looks like they're playing almost at knee level. And for me, and most people I've met, that's fairly uncomfortable. I can understand sitting almost that high if playing on a set of Ringers or Ludwig-Ringers, but I wouldn't normally. It's all personal, anyway. There's no right or wrong way to play anything. It's just unfortunate that so many people in this country and in America are still taught that there is.
OJones777 3 years ago
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DrumsAndMisc 2 years ago
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DrumsAndMisc 2 years ago
What's so special about the mallets? Sorry, I'm not a percussionist.
weas89el 3 years ago
Without percussions the orchestra wouldn't be the same...
ososa174 3 years ago 9
Herberts are amazing.
bebres 3 years ago
thanks, herbert is indeed amazing.
oztimpanist 3 years ago
cutlet?
drumach1ne 3 years ago
bad place to put the camera
aaronpw3000 3 years ago
Dude, are those Herbert mallets? They're like butter...
nrlang86 4 years ago
butter butter?
oztimpanist 4 years ago
@nrlang86 Do they make any of their shafts from hickory?
Capcoor 5 months ago
I can play those instruments!
Ponting100notout 4 years ago
I can play those instruments!
Ponting100notout 4 years ago
i think everyone can cuz they r extremely easy
ilikepancakes13 3 years ago
that was average..
loho174 4 years ago
thanks, that was first of our 3 rehearsals, an orchestra never play together
oztimpanist 4 years ago
me 2 lol
EKESKOG 4 years ago
i'm just watching this for homework the horror
CRIDY450 4 years ago