Martha Nussbaum on Aristotle: Section 1

[djorkaef]

I dont understand, she sais Aristoleles said: we cant actually talk about things that haven't entered our experience at all. She does a comparison with thunder or white. So we could never have talked about thunder or white if no one ever first experienced it. Then what about things like string theory or the big bang theory? Should we also watch those as theory's that are built on experiences while they never been proven? Or are they meaningless nonsense talk?

[German1184]

@djorkaef (Part 1) Aristotle thought there is only one realm: this realm we live in and experience, i.e. the world of appearances. And ‘appearances’, as Martha Nussbaum says, “is a broad and general notion of experience, of how the world strikes us. This covers both our perceptual experience of the world and our ordinary sayings and beliefs.”

[German1184]

@djorkaef (Part2) It’s very important to notice that “experience”, in this context, is a broad and general notion of experience, meaning what can be *possible* perceived by us (community of rational beings) plus our ordinary discourse about the world.

So, even if no one ever experienced it, “thunder” (or “white”) is in the area of our experience, since, “to have the perception of a thunder” is in the sphere of all *possibility* of experience for us.

[German1184]

@djorkaef (Part 3) Now, when Martha Nussbaum says: “He [Aristotle] would say that actually we never can coherently go beyond our experience: the only project that we can really undertake is the mapping, the investigating, of the area of our experience.”

Whatever is outside all *possibility* of experience for us can be nothing to us. Aristotle did not believe that we could find any firm ground *outside* this realm on which to stand.

[MeiSaraiat271]

lol bin reich aber einsam

[SwordInAir]

Is anyone else so glad they watched this instead of some shit on TV?

[gen6k]

i want to do her

[JackWalshFBI]

"unfortunently... [4/5] of those works aristotle prepared for publication... have been lost"

Hah. yeah lost right into the bookshelves of the ruling class. Knowledge is power sheeple.

[jimbopumbapigsticks]

Aristotle is my favourite philosopher. Though I would say Plato was a better philosopher, Aristotle was the better mind, given the variety of his interests and works, and the fact that so much of his stuff was so prescient and still applicable - even his physics went unchallenged for over 1500 years.

[oknarbtal]

Her last name is 'nut tree' in German. Funny.

[Thuggishsplicer1]

Aristotle was the greatest philosopher and will never be matched. He was the first to really describe the anti-concept of claiming reason's "limitations" or "inadequacies" by showing that those who posit such are using the very system which they are attempting to destroy.

[gracer99]

all just BS language games... HUME and WITTGENSTEIN were right...

[mp4401]

thanks for uploading this

[jayqisyou]

I completely agree with her; Aristotle is really flexible and his Ideas are truly beautiful

[alifeofreason]

She talks soooo fast!

[FIDTRO]

Damn that lady is ugly......and the one in the blue isn't that hot either

[Wtfgames]

wtf is this crap

[vinneylim]

Thanks a lot!

These programs are very helpful. I hope that more universities will contribute some programs in this area

[ThomasDeLello]

Martha Nussbaum

[jupiterostselo]

Martha Nussbaum is so brilliant it's encouraging.

[rickmcn1986]

video doesn't work... freezes at 1.24

[Israe5l]

The famous painting of the ancient greek thinkers, I think the young person with the blue clothes is Plato and the older person with the red clothes is Aristotle. Plato seems to me the one who is inspired and wants to go forward (the way he presses his hand forward) and his philosophy is youthful. While Aristotle is the one who is wise and old pointing at the sky for profundity.

[WaywardSun]

@Israe5l

You are on the right track. The image is taken from Raphael's School of Athens. I submit respectfully that you have the two reversed. Plato, the elder, mentor to Aristotle, is pictured on the left, modeled by Raphael after the Master, Da Vinci. He points upward to evoke the unworldly Realm of the Forms. On his left walks Aristotle, his student, who gestures downward as if to remind us that universals are discernible in the world of experience.

[Israe5l]

@WaywardSun I am aware that I am being against the common notion. To me the younger passionate one is Plato. And the older wiser empirical is Aristotle. And if the two are in the same scene Plato will be the older and Aristotle the younger. But thats just artistic license.

[WaywardSun]

@Israe5l

I think it is rather more than a 'notion' as the elder carries the Timeus, a metaphysical dialog of Plato's late period, and the younger carries the Ethics ( one assumes the Nicomachean Ethics), his great work on the good life. But as you say. Perhaps they are enjoying one another's work.

[Israe5l]

@WaywardSun Ok, you are right.

[iiNDiTC]

@WaywardSun Little do many people know but Averroes, the Muslim polymath who inspired Thomas Aquinas to make the distinction between faith and reason (the pillar of thought in the Islamic golden age) is also in that painting as a symbol of the indebtedness of Europe to islam and the middle east.

[iiNDiTC]

@iiNDiTC Averroes can be seen on the left (with a mustache and turban) with his head leaning on the edge.

[SAMPINJ]

i love this woman

[FaaarLeft]

Nussbaum is one of those with a robotic mind. I envy her.

[octlacatl]

LOL...she fooled me for a second. she needs to get a better dose of hormones and remove that adam's apple!

[octlacatl]

martha nussbaum looks like a tranny

[cys12141]

@octlacatl

She is NOT???

[Xephon212]

Is she wearing a Snuggie?

[Snotra]

Truth is subjective to liberals.

[greenghost2008]

omg she talks fast

[aymansousa]

very good video

[quintusinferni]

Where I can find the complete work of aristotle in greek? If anybody knows, please, tell me. Thanks

[RPenta]

@quintusinferni

Try the Loeb Classical Library--which I believe has an English Translation on one page and the corresponding Greek text on the opposite page.

Would that someday I can own the entire Greek and Latin libraries--those red covered works in Latin are very sharp looking.

[northofforty68]

Most of the comments here are proof that America is devolving into a country dominated by functionally illiterate white trash morons and fundamentalist conservative boobs with closet deviant sexual urges. Get out while you can.

[jkirk1626]

@northofforty68 That's original. Congratulations. You can parrot what you're told and dutifully think and believe as you're told without question. Martha Nussbaum concedes she's privileged. She grew up rich and connected. She owes her accomplishments to the privilege she condemns and tries to deny to everyone else. She's hot. Though she'd be loathe to admit it, her T&A got her most of the way. She's a conformist snob who will dismiss any differing notion without considering it.

[Marly61]

@northofforty68 Only a real trashy person would attack someone personally without a reference to what that person stated as being functionally illiterate or without an example to back up the attack?

[evilresidence4]

@northofforty68 well, I must say that comment was an epic win.

[SiorafasNaCillini]

@northofforty68

Your own comment on the other hand is further confirmation that America will destroy itself in that ball of flames,division and farce that is the culture war.

[stinkypoodude]

@northofforty68 Ive tried, they wont let me leave. But you no that right.

[MutleeIsTheAntiGod]

@northofforty68 You have no idea how dead-on you are with that analysis.

[iiNDiTC]

@northofforty68 devolving? when had it ever evolved?

[FatManDan156]

@northofforty68 you can't be serious

[AnonymousWhitePerson]

According to Plutarch, Aristotle poisoned Alexander the Great of Macedon.

[CosmicSisyphus]

@AnonymousWhitePerson That's awesome since I'm Persian and love philosophy. The death of Alexander kicks ass...

[AnonymousWhitePerson]

@CosmicSisyphus, thou art King Darius and Prince Xerxes.

[AnonymousWhitePerson]

Aristotle imprisons the mind like a stolid mental lattice.

[vkur123]

Humanities departments are massive affirmative actions programs for White liberals, especially women. Martha Nussbaum is living proof of that.

[favouritedress]

Well done on shoehorning so many different kinds of intolerance into two sentences.

[wsl2107]

@vkur123

GET A LIFE PLEASE THANK YOU

[domoarigato3000]

you just made my day

[knocked44]

one more thing: why the wobble in your gobble? who stuffed the turkey?

[knocked44]

Martha, can we start by discussing the seeming discordance between your feminism and your adopted faith of Judaism.. Also lets discuss your infamously unprofessional and ad hominem review of Alan Bloom's book The Closing of The American Mind, shall we? Or perhaps we should begin with a pure critique of your ghastly pretentiousness and snobbish and unmerited blue blood pride.

[NameFrUtube]

I dislike this kind of 'i memorised a whole bunch of shite in order to recite it' type of philosophy. There's no love in it.

[carlsunshine]

Dr Nussbaum, a personal associate of mine, once remarked to me in passing, that the only thing one need know about aristotle is that, for him, deductive infallible logic was to being qua being as meat is to a vegetarian. I think this holds true for her own philosophy which concerns itself with what she terms the 'grapevine of the maladaptive being-in-the-soul'

[myjizzureye]

Yeah she told me that the other day but i couldn't quite hear it properly. She was laying face down in a pillow and i was wiping her chit of my cawk on her curtins.

[mjplantan]

Martha Nussbaum is so brilliant it's frightening.

[vegtam1]

she seems to start to answer his question completely, but then doesn't. she sounds like she is starting to explain kant at times.....to me at least

[SulleM07]

@mjplantan nothing particular brilliant about him. He is just educated.

[jkirk1626]

@SulleM07 That's quite a judgement. It shows he's a professional and mannered enough to understand that he's the host. She's the guest and the spotlight's on her. His being a fool and doing his best to steal the show does not indicate that he is brilliant or is not brilliant.

[thundermik]

it's just a shame she was always reading from her notes lol

she should have spoken better for an expert

[bahramf]

@thundermik So??? she has a bad memory.

[Alexsteen]

@mjplantan Plus she's a TOTAL fox. 

[emshaw27]

woah....i care

[spinoza1111]

The synthetic apriori, if it exists, has no contradiction that is ruled out. An experienced space of more than three dimensions, or less, is not "space", because "experienced space" refers ONLY to 3-d space.

A bold claim, but Kant I think makes it.

The synthetic apriori, if it exists, has a different logic in which the law of excluded middle need not apply. p v ~p would not even be well-formed.

I base this on the feeling one gets from Kant: "this is bullshit or there's no alternative".

[RationalEmotive]

she's hot!

[spinoza1111]

She's a serious runner. Marathons.

It must be hard for her, since most philosophy majors are testosterone-sodden men.

Pity Guy Goma, the jobseeker who was put on air by accident at the dear old BBC, didn't wander onto Brian Magee's set and wing it on Wittgenstein.

[LiberalVichy]

Tell me about it.

[berthos2]

Brian Macgeé use teleprompter. Hitler is so nervous looking.

[avastyer]

So Nussbaum is looking at notes now again. So what? Reading notes doesn't mean that you don't understand it.

Hitler was famous for not reading off notes.

[berthos2]

The modern man always is so nervous looking. Brian Macgeé is so nervous looking, everybody. Consider the truth

[HowardTheFrog]

Do you think he's nervous? what's he nervous about? maybe cause subconsciously he knows everything he's saying is a bunch of baloney?

[berthos2]

Well, the minds and hearts suffer in vain search lights, but I think we should not despise the little light that might be inside their minds

[darkpal123]

who know? its a just a philosophical

theres millions of them

many choice god

i wish i could beleave in such a thing..

[ashburnhouse]

She is so nervous looking.

[HowardTheFrog]

you think she's nervous cause basically everything she's such an "expert" on is just a bunch of fluffy nonsense/baloney that only rich kids have the leisure time to study?

[jjlover01]

Do I detect abit of resentment Kermit? Oh feel free to give me a thumb down or comment I know your type needs to retaliate to experience some fufillment. :)

[berthos2]

Winston Churchill used notes, I think that that isn´t important. The memory is delicate and she is a miss

[vamarilla]

Reading notes, are you, Ms. Nussbaum? ;-) You're a class act.

[ClaretotheZ]

woah, there ARE notes there on the couch.Cheek of them! How could they not find somebody capable of discussing Aristotle without recourse to notes? I sincerely hope they didn't comp her flights...

[JamLittlepie]

Thanks a lot, flame0430.

[himuramon]

great video thanks!