"Two Kennedys" - clip from 1976. Assassination analysis.

[geawelli04]

stuff that, thats a lie look up did the driver shoot jfk, you watch the driver on better footage, be persistant youll find the one im talking about... srry i dont have the link

[cruisersism]

This Evil LBJ statement WE believe refers to the murder of JFK

"It is the Melancholy law of human societies to be compeled sometimes to chose a great evil in order to ward off a greater evil"

YOU want to see a guilty MAN? check this out , = LBJ coments on JFK assasination 1969.wmv

[landis444]

Why this film has never been used to debunk all the assasination hoop-la I will never know. Great craftmentship and soundtrack.

[ninyae]

Amazing how many people believe that Bin Laden was taken down last month. No wonder so many people glibly believe the official version on JFK.

[RedStateRoy]

dig that crazy background music dadio

[xvoy2002]

The ``Second Kennedy`` was proposed by one, Alfred Tamperman, but was quickly stifled by the commission. The Kennedy ``double` was an exact look alike of the president, had been a trained actor and had plastic surgery to replicate him exactly. Little is known about which one actaully was shot, however, Tamperman insists the double, had acuatlly been in the limo.

[wtf66611]

Too darn bad digital cameras were'nt around back in 1963.

[memoir4you]

the negligence of the SS was because the president had ordered the buble top tob e removed and that there were none on the Lincoln convertible,so that the Dallas people could see him and his wife.

[JubalCalif]

Instead of an Italian documentary, I think it was from a German TV movie that was sponsered by their biggest maker of bras. By the way, a bra in Germany is called a "STOPENZEFLOPPIN".

[TheAstradyne]

Is the American government so dumb as to think we still believe there outdated claptrap? Why not do what is right and release the original untampered Zapruder film. I for one believe they still have it.

[Verdelufe]

THIS VIDEO GOT RIGHT !!!

Two heads behind the fence, one to the right from the corner of the fence

and one to the left from the corner of the fence where the smoke came out

and many witnesses saw it. Now the first shot in the neck cause a bullet

hole in the windshield they got wrong saying it came from the same fence.

[datzfast]

suppose you wanted to do it again, six shooters one shot apiece every shot is a head shot, some miss some hit, its all good. that's what it looked like happened

the day kennedy was shot.

[ZebZachary]

@datzfast

excellent observation.

and i think that it's possible that the different shooters

were from different groups...but they were all "aware" of each other.

after all, they were working toward a common goal.

they all wanted to achieve the same result....didn't matter who got it done, as long as it was done.

[datzfast]

so why was it so important that the secret service jump on the back after hes dead but not while hes alive?

[ZebZachary]

@datzfast

the secret service were complacent in the execution of JFK.

(they were in on the conspiracy).

i have no doubt.

it can't be any other way.

(given that one has done his research).

[Bboybobo]

Could anybody has any idee from where to get this documentary ? I Due Kennedy ? free ?

[Soulblackman]

The name of the movie was The Two Kennedys - made in Italy.

[Bboybobo]

how is possible that the second clip has sound ? of the shoots and the car that is getting away ?

[gotch09]

Now how in the flying crying hell can you tell any damn thing from such a poor quality film?

[HearingLossProvider]

@gotch09 I agree. I can't see anything.

[Mobilecheese]

Great video!

[Mobilecheese]

The commentator on the video is speaking English with a definite and almost imperceptible foreign accent - most likely Italian.

[dannybex]

What's the point of posting a video that is of such poor quality that nothing can be deciphered from it?

???

[134jallen]

POSITIVE CIA ID

Want to see the Cuban JFK assassin conspirator, David Sanchez Morales, Operations Chief for CIA JMWAVE, and in the CIA assassination group ZR/RIFLE?

Then look at the Zapruder film.

See Morales dressed in white clothes across the street, just after the freeway sign, and wearing a black type of bullet proof vest. He holds out his arm and then lowers it.

Before Kevlar was developed in 1965, a bullet proof vest material can look like that worn by Morales.

(continued below)

[134jallen]

(continued from above)

Next, look at the Index of Photographers, Phillip Willis, number 6, at jfkmurderphotos(.)bravehost(.) com

Morales is casually walking away in the opposite direction. Notice his look, clothes, hair, sunglasses.

On Yahoo Search put in: morales jmwave.

Then click on: David Sanchez Morales, at spartucus,schoolnet. See his pics. Same look, clothes, hair, sunglasses.

CONSPIRACY Proof

The CIA is proven to be on Elm St. with an extended arm signal to begin shooting at JFK.

[Snow8Man975]

You can see the president' s car slowing down and then accelerating faster than on the altered version.

[NEABALDO]

yeh you're right snowman

[giantshadows]

as far as the drain, it would be easy to hit the limo from there and make a get away.

Something you might not know, the drain was replaced and sealed off years after after the execution, but before it led to a 8 foot drainage pipe that was a 20 minute walk to the trinity and an easy escape..

Not saying a shot came from there, but it would be easy for an ape to make that shot and disappear without a trace..

[ezesanty]

si seguro vinieron tiros de todos lados, no seas boludo x dios !!!!!!

[metallica11194]

everyone says he got shot from a sewer. a tree, bush. i mean come on.

[domandcaro]

where else would he get shot from? he got shot from his right side, the bullet came from about the northeast side of him. THATS WHY HIS HEAD SNAPPED BACK!!!!!

[tovasdad]

I actually own "the two Kennedy's " on beta I bought it in the early 80's great documentry thanks for posting

[MJG956]

Ya kin tell someone had wanted him dead real bad. They all were a bunch of chicken shits who offed him.

[stracenerdanny]

You can't be a CSI from manipulated footage,but to this point there was a shot from a drain.

[domandcaro]

yeah possibly. from the northeast side of him for sure, thats why his head went backwards

[MubbytheMan]

Keep in mind people this government let alone normal people can no keep a secret to save its life so how do we figure that over 100 people can keep one which is at least how many would have to be involved!

[domandcaro]

because this isnt your average secret at work about who ate the other persons lunch. this is complicated stuff here

[starryian007]

Hmmm, excuse me if I remain skeptical of these so-called 'discoveries'. I didn't see a man behind the fence, no matter how often I replayed it. That shape could be anything. However, I do not doubt that there was indeed another gunman laying-in-wait for Kennedy and he fired from the front, right position from Kennedy's car. The Zupruder footage sealed that. Exactly where the fatal head-shot came from remains a mystery. However, the testimony of Lee Bowers provides perhaps the best clues.

[BobLillo]

Bill Curtis Investigates has a far better quality film where you can see the outline of two men, one in a police uniform, with the rifle. Also, it has been proven, has it not, that a shot from the sewer was too low to make the shot?

[squirevet]

There were at least three assassins involved, possibly four. I'd be interested to know where the Umbrella and Dark Complected men were standing in relation to that manhole cover. If there was an assassin hidden there, they would've been smart to be standing on top or pretty close to it. There are witnesses listed in Jim Marrs book Crossfire that the last shot seemed to sound like it came from "a cave." I take this to mean the echo from the shot inside the drain.

[JHalpert84]

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really, have you ever been there? that's impossible to shoot from the drainage pipe.

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[squirevet]

You moron. In 1963, it would have been easy to squeeze off a round at the limousine. Keep laughing, but there was a conspiracy you shit for brains.

[JHalpert84]

It doesn't matter WHAT fucking year it was, there's absolutely NO way to shoot at the president from that drainage pipe. If you actually look at it, one would have only a handgun and would have to shoot blindly, which is completely illogical. Why don't you actually go to the spot and say the same thing? You're still an idiot for your previous comments, nonetheless...

[domandcaro]

impossible??? dude all you have to do is pull up the sewer lid you weak s.o.b

[JHalpert84]

NO, there was a drain on the side of the road, which didn't have ANYTHING to do with lids. It was the curbside variety that they were speaking of. It was incredibly small, and the only thing that would've fit was a handgun.

[cesaremario1968]

and as soon as he lifts the bike up he leans his head as to listen more carefully for noises coming from that drain. it's so obvious

[cesaremario1968]

there was a shot from the drain for sure, the motorbike policeman stops there in a hurry and drops the bike, and while he lifts it up again keeps on looking at the drain. the cop noticed something strange in that drain, nobody can deny this, so there was a conspiracy ideed.

[THEROYALKINGOFDRAGON]

the cop LOOKS like oswald and he has a gun pionted at him and he seems calm at 0:24 and oswald might have took his rifle to trick people into thinking he was alone

[kruns11]

"You can make out what is the outline of a sniper leaning on the roof af a car." I couldn't make out shit.

[ChrizGT07]

what the hell is the black thingy in the drains at o.33 at the left part?

[themeaningoflife38]

there was no sound on any film of the shooting.The sound in this clip is not the actual sound.

[princess11222]

I don't think this particular footage is real. Look at the car speeding up. Never happened.

[smallfry9999]

yeah it did

[princess11222]

You're right, the car did speed up but something about this footage just seems...off.

[bradH2414]

ok 4 shooters is complete crap. if he was shot from the front of the head and the back he wouldnt have a head anymore. and u can clearly only hear 3 shots. i dont rule out the grassy knoll shooter but there were only those tow even if that

[DrPeterBeter]

Have you ever noticed that the Zapruder film does not have Kennedy centered in the frame when the fatal shot happened. Listen to my AUDIO LETTER #3 to find out why.

[dnaslinky369]

ohh fuck off first ppl say theres 2 shooters... now theres 4? hahaaaaa

[pdrogama]

At 0:15 you can clearly hear 5 shots...

[anthonylewis71]

I agrre 0:15 5 shot!!! i dont know about everything else but there was 5 shots.

[sindoniproductions]

In the video response I submitted, pay particular attention to two men standing behing two Dallas Police Officers ( 1 minute 31 seconds) one of the men is Phil Ochs legendary folk singer who was found dead of an apparant hanging suicide. I wonder.....

[OcracokeSurfer]

Pardon me for not knowing but what video is being shot starting at 0:25 in this compilation? It's being shot from a moving vehicle apparently included in the motorcade.

[moviesonline55]

what a shame he was a great president i think he did something bad and somebody got revenge

[VinnyVoom444]

The Single Bullet Myth is a fraud based upon drawings and conjecture, not X-Rays, Photos, or the FBI's report. Arlen Specter is exposed with the facts here...

watch?v=aS3zrdkoCdY

No SBT, no Lone Nut gunman. Ooops! Sorry Sheeple Squad, your fairy tale is just that, and Dale Myers bullshit propoganda cartoon is as valid for scientific evidence as Elmer Fudd is valid for rabbit hunting, and Popeye is for the health benefits of spinach.

[VinnyVoom444]

Hey Lone nut losers, why did the Dallas PD find a 7.65 Mauser and 3 shells (perfectly aligned and an inch apart... another first in the history of firearms and rifle fire) from a 6.5 Carcano in the TSBD?

watch?v=-WQr4y1j4Gw

watch? v=1AqqNKsWCGY

watch?v=dPIo8B7S1k4

And don't even try to post some bullshit cover story from McAdams. Mark Lane destroys any doubt about the reality of the rifle being a Mauser with the official documents he covers from 7:00 on in this film.

watch?v=UFEx8hjD8kE

[trou8226]

Wait a minute you're saying Mark Lane the man who's worked for Jim Jones is a credible source, but think McAdams who's done nothing but research the assassination and cite what he's found isn't. wow. keep your mouth shut and quit watching oliver stone films

[VinnyVoom444]

McAdams is a souless, pathetic, lying sack of shit disinformation agent, and you are a braindead fucktard.

jfkmurdersolved . com/mcadams . htm

Get your mouth off of his shriveled spunk spewing prick and your facts straight lil' Bo Sheeple. Then get back to me.

[trou8226]

the icpsr claims are weak at best 500 schools have reps are all of them cia too? he claims isr the group icpsr came from received ghost grants and its documented but doesn't give us a way to figure this out for ourselves. his covert activity in going to a copa meeting under an assumed name makes perfect sense. he's spying on his enemy. he has to and why risk blowing your cover. everything else is trying to discredit him for being an ass. i'm not convinced he's a liar

[xsitegaming1]

vinnyvoom,jfkmurdersolved is a brilliant site with about as much truth as we will ever get. and these lone nut people are nuts themselves there is so many hole sin warr/comm its just funny my 6 year old could write better shit than that. oh and another thing the rifle lho is pictured with is the long barrel version of carcano rifle and the 1 dallas police found and show is the short barraled version the conspiracy assholes didnt know there was 2 versions of the rifle..lol keep the faith vinny

[VinnyVoom444]

Cyril Wecht schools Vincent Bugliosi:

watch?v=lyIhZWYRokU

wa tch?v=M-ZdEhSRqyA

watch?v=qo1EIsyoc8U

Now we know what happened to that bullet... it was removed from Connally's leg (as confirmed by Dr. Shaw), and disposed of along with all the other damning evidence of a 2nd gunman. CE399 is as realistic as cdthimblprick and his umpteen sock puppet aliases.

The Lone Nut Sheeple Squad is sinking fast in their quicksand of lies.

intoevidence . net

Your sad Lil' Bo Sheeple faces here --> :-(

[dannidale]

bush and all other presidents since jfk are members of the secret society called illuminati. If you listen to jfk's campain speech he impies about these secret powers. and that's why they couldn't let him live.

if it sounds like history, there is a pretty new event of this secret society which has hijacked us decades ago. it's 9/11. look up the word illuminati and you might as well want to listen to one of david icke's speeceh. im sure it'll make everything cyristal clear for u

[ToritoNL]

presidents can't change a nation, the people must do it. In a speech, JF Kennedy asked for help, against a conspiracy of secret societies.

GH Bush is related to the killing of JFK, he hated JFK, because the Bushes want a WHOLE NEW WORLD ORDER. Still. And Obama wants it too, he thinks, but It's the CIA pulling the strings. Kennedy was fighting the CIA.

[grassyknollkiller]

Henry Luce, owner of Time-Life magazine, close friend of Dulles(CIA head), purchased original Z film.

If you want the answer on the agents super-human speed in getting to the limo, just think CONSPIRACY.

The Zapruder film was heavily edited to fool the people.

On a search engine type in "jfk assassination film hoax". Go to the bottom of the page and enjoy the Z film clips that show HOW your government is making a fool out of you.

Yes...agents move fast on edited and cut and pasted film.

[VinnyVoom444]

Bill Newman: "The shot came from behind us, and hit the president in the temple."

watch?v=pweuPLTVfl4

Bill Newman was one of the closet people to JFK, only 50 feet away. HE WAS THERE. The lying disinformation agents that gave you the "official" government reports, and professional truth spinning charlatans like Bugliosi and Posner weren't.

As for the head moving forward first, go here:

jfkmurdersolved . com/headshot . htm

CASE CLOSED!

[SmittyHeWasNumber1]

This whole thing is very symbolic,it was aimed at the American people and nation,for any and all reasons known or unknown.This is why other presidents haven't gotten any funny ideas of changing the nation since.RIP John Fitzgerald Kennedy,we loved you!

[mikeyohioo]

creepy and eerie

[p101James]

For the Seventies- that was a lot closer to the truth then the "Warren Report"- or History Channels- "after the Conspiracy".

[quartiernord13mal]

is real sound??????????????

[BigPeteTV]

lol im beign honest with yall...i didnt see anything he was talkin bout at all

[jjjryanjjj]

to have a PERSONAL machine that is able to take home movies in the 1960s was un realat the time. only the super rich had them an even that was rare. most tv camras back than are about as heavy as most small cars of the time

[thistlewarrior]

Thats just silly, lots of people had them. Yes you had to have a disposable income to purchase one but you certainly didnt have to be "super rich".

[aristotele77]

8 millimeter was cheap. It was as videocameras. It was a film not a tape. Lots of people had them. Zapruder. Anyway, this film sums up the main ideas. Don`t know all the details, but the main idea of number of shots is as i think of it. I think this film is really good showing the skull fragment. Poor quality...

[adr58]

Not true, the camera used in the Z movie is small as todays ones are.

[vpxg0tryc]

Bush

[72jamminjimmy]

any way of finding out if the shouts were over dubbed? I heard five, if they are actual audio I mean. I do hear music and all over the crowd so? Just wondering if there was a copy of the original out there anywehre.

[stupididiot13]

why do all these vids blur at all the wrong times?...

[TrueNovice]

They are crappy home movies taken by bystanders. They put the film car, filled with professional photographers in the back of the motorcade. It was alway in front of Kennedy car to facilitate photograpy in all other motorcades, but not the one where they might have provided clear photographic evidence of the assassination. Just an accidental oversight on the part of the Secret Service, i guess. What do you think?

[chip8989]

This is just silly.

[biscoeboyz]

Kennedys were good people.. and Bushs dont like good people

[hickman200584]

yeah the sounds are fake shots are two close together

[Tomb60]

The picture was to distorted for me to see anything clearly. I think the sound effects we added.

I am sure that the CIA was involved. Perhaps even Geroger H.W. Bush.

[1JAG136]

Do you really think his body is in his tomb at Arlington? His original casket along with many personal effects (maybe his missing brain) are at the bottom of the Atlantic....put there by the Kennedy family.....maybe that is why John Jr was laid to rest at sea???.

[wodanowitz]

The audio sound in the beginning is FAKE. US Films in the seventies, shown in Italy were all synchronisized with italian audio. Insteed of V8 Engines, you here motorsounds of a FIAT, lol. Exactly like here. You dondt heare a Lincoln, you heare a FIAT....

[matt605]

yes, well, it was for Italian viewers, so to create the sound of the limo increasing speed, the sound of a Fiat was needed

the film also shows color film as black and white to help add continuity

[translationwiz]

funny very funny.

[StringViolin]

What's so funny about a great presidents assanation?

[translationwiz]

Im sorry...I know for sure I didnt mean it is a comical situation that the Kennedys were killed. I dont know about Robert; I was 4 when JFK was killed and my family was weeping as if they were at a funeral and the dead person was in the next room. I apologize if I offended anyone by using this phrase. I will be more careful the next time.

[StringViolin]

It's fine. I just think this was a tragic day in our country. Robert and John were heros in our nation.

[hans421]

Yes, they were. Two leaders who stood up against evil and paid the ultimate price,as so many heroes have done before. Now it looks like people have surrendered to evil, to terror, they keep quiet, as they know what can be the consequences. A few men, maybe a few families, a small group of people taking the greatest nation ever, hostage. Incredible.

[TheFordMan98]

why is someone dying funny!!??

[10Garmonbozia01]

An italian documentary was made in 1969 called "I Due Kennedy" (Two Kennedys), and did as I understand it, air in 1976 as seen here. IF this is from that documentary that is. The important matter, is that "I Due Kennedy" contained the Nix film, copied BEFORE the original turned missing in 1978.

[10Garmonbozia01]

I do not know for certain, but I can agree that some of the sound effects must have been added on top of the video. No of the amateur footage taken, recorded sound. Those who ask for a continuation, please read my description

[occisMORT]

excellent analysis, but...is there a continuation anywhere?

in th begining the sounds ve been added (or what?) I bet so

[Blackstone1955]

From the very beginning it was clear that Oswald was the only shooter. The Warren Report got it correct the first time and the only reason we have this unpleasant rehashing of this horrible event is for the sole purpose of selling books and movies. Is nothing but money sacred in this country?

[coopsnon]

blackstone1955<>if you believe that you are the most stupid person in the world and

[Blackstone1955]

...and what? You're a genious? I doubt it. LOL I've read just about every book and most of the important magazine articles about Kennedy's death. The whole mess is a mess until you examine the facts, not the fiction. I'll bet you think about digging JFK up just so you can satisfy your sick curiosity.

[hirte777]

the cia would never allow JFK to be dug up. It would prove that there were at least two gunmen and a conspiracy.

[Autobogg]

Is the sound we hear a re-creation from sound effects or was this sound recorded at the event? Sounds like added SFX for the program. Were all the films silent?

[killaskeem]

Ive never seen this footage very nice. I believe there were at least two snipers, maybe three.

[scumctv]

Smoke? Smokeless cartridges have been around for quite a while. When Oliver Stone made JFK, he had to use a smoke machine when he found out he couldn't produce any visible smoke from the rifle...

[californiaOC82]

I remember watching this video in 1976.

[kruns11]

this mainly creaps me out. however, this shows nothing to significant, because the grassy knoll is just a blot of black. no view of a shooter. that is why this video was not confinscated by the fbi.

[jpindayton]

Good job!