81tokits81, you spend a lot of time on my videos for someone who refuses to listen to anything I say. How about spending your time on something productive.
so if you said it is not a problem, this catchweight, why spend almost 5 minutes talking about it
besides, i am sure that if cotto kayo'd pacquiao, this catchweight will not even be an issue at all. i feel like you are just emphasising 'catchweight' before the fight so you have an easy excuse when cotto losses, as he did
"anybody predicting an early knockout, that's just crazy, it's not gonna happen at this level of the game against somebody like Miguel Cotto not against an opponent of his caliber".
Well obviously you were wrong. Cotto was down on the 3rd and 4th round. If Cotto did not start making a retreat on the 6th round, the fight could have ended earlier. I've watched your post fight analysis and i was surprised that you don't have the balls to admit that you were wrong on the details of your prediction.
ome0407, Cotto was stopped in the 12th, and one can argue it should have been stopped at the end of the 9th, so obviously I'm not wrong. In fact, anyone that predicted an early knockout were the ones proven wrong, like Freddie Roach said with his 1st round prediction, so nice try pal.
wrong wrong wrong. lol Manny didn't win the fight by going straight. his punches was going from all direction like cotto said he didn't know where punches were coming from. manny beat the shit of cotto.
Kung Fu boy sucks. Word of Advice to this Asian dude: "NEVER DOUBT A FIGHTER LIKE PAC WHO IS DESTINED TO GREATNESS BECAUSE HE ONLY COMES ALONG ONCE IN A LIFETIME"
Not Available??? Early knock down happened in 4rth round. Pacman did test Cotto's punches. People don't know that Pacman sparred with Porter, the middle weight and hard hitter fighter, many times during Pac's training. Cotto can't hurt the Pacman on that night. Pacman's body has been sensitized since he sparred with Porter.
so you want to see the bull fight the goat then. miguel is fighting a lightweight in this fight. so 2 pounds below the welterweight is not a big deal. Manny is in danger in this fight. so manny has the good reason to ask for a certain weight beetween the welterweight limit. Just admit it. cotto is your man. Cant accept the fact that Manny is the best asian fighter right now. because I dont see any Korean boxer who can hop from division to division.
Wow man, you truly know the sport. I've subscribed to you and haven't watched the videos, ran threw alot of them and I can tell you, you know the sport. Great analysis, I'm picking Pacquiao by 10th round stoppage but I'm not gonna overlook Cotto in this one. Pacquiao has the foot speed to get out of the corner and outbox Cotto. Not to mention, Cotto has been getting cut as of late, may the best man win.
Hints!!! Manny will not run or circle around on Cotto. The truth is, Manny will wait Cotto's left body punch and Manny will swing or bend to Cotto's right which is Manny's left but before Cotto release his punch ,Manny will be the first to release his KILLER PUNCH with a blink of an eye, Don't blink your eyes!!!. Round 1 knock down! if Cotto survives that round it will be 9 or 10 round KO by Pacman!!! I've seen this strategy since Manny was in the Philippines. 100% Guaranteed!!
Really like the analysis because it sounds, well more probable. I do not think Manny will be toe to toe against Cotto unless Manny knows he can really hurt Cotto. If it is the other way around, that Cotto finds out Manny can't hurt him then Manny will be in trouble. THe only way I see Manny winning is by decision because Cotto is a strong dude that can take punches. Still, i think that by round 10th Pacman will be hurt and the fight will be stopped.
I think Manny will go to cotto's left first. If hes far nuf 2 Cotto's left, he'll deal dmg the way he did against ODH & try landing right hooks. If he is 2 Cottos left den Cotto can't really land anything against him (jab will b deflected by the angle and the hook will be 2 far or it will jus b countered due 2 speed difference).This is assuming Manny times Cotto's left hand.I agree that later on in the fight, Manny will start going to Cotto's right only after he lands nuf right hooks 2 the cut.
the jab aint a good tool against southpaws.the shot cotto should use,is his good left hook, wich is a gr8 shot to use against southpaws,left hooks, str8 right crosses all night!with the jab cotto will be pawing into pacs left hand powershot!the jab aint a good shot 4 cotto to use!
cotto should look to lead with his right cross.using it abit like a jab to off set pac!he should circle left making sure he keeps his lead foot on the outside of pacmans.thats the textbook way to fight a southpaw,easy said then done tho lol cotto should look to lead with his best tool.his left hook as much as poss!we sort of know wat pacs bringing to the gunfight,its all about how cotto applys his fight!its a close one to call.cotto has more then a chance
correct me if i am wrong... 10 million dollars is at stake in this fight? is this a fact? is this after paper view?... wow 10 mills is a lot of money man...
The fighters weigh in at 145, but Cotto will be fighting near the Middleweight limit of 160 on fight night. Pacquiao may still be at or near the welter limit (147). He weighed 148 for the Welter fight against De la Hoya when he weighed in at 143 the day before. Cotto will have a huge weight advantage regardless of the catch weight. IMO fighters shouldn't be allowed to gain more than 5 lb when they rehydrate. In all probability on the 14th you'll see a Middle Wt fighting a Welter Wt.
Just to correct you on the Catch weight buddy!!. Before the match was made on both camps, Roach or Team Pac were asking Cotto's camp if they will agree with the 142 or 143 lbs match up but they did not agree. Cotto's camp want to fight Pac at 145 lbs. They're the one who decided that weight coz before Roach was asking Mosley on that weight but he refused it.
Robinhood, just because Cotto's camp wanted to at least weigh 145 pounds doesn't mean they 'chose' 145 pounds. It's still a two pound compromise when the fight should be at 147 all along.
i think we are gonna see a knock out but agree with what you said at the top with having it either be a catchweight or a title fight...but like you said i'll take it the way it is rather than leave it
Good video. But, Manny circling to Cotto's right is fundamentally wrong for a southpaw, when fighting a conventional fighter. When a southpaw circles to the direction opposite of his jab hand, he's walking directly in the line of fire of his opponents power hand, (straight right hand) which is the cryptonite against the southpaw fighter. Pac should circle to his own right (his jab hand) and force Cotto to circle to the direction opposite of his own jab hand.
ashy that's all correct but I think Cotto's left hand is the more dangerous of the two so Manny would have a easier time going the other way and still be able to get angles on his own left hand. But who knows, I'm sure Freddy has him working on something.
That's a good point. Cotto is left hand dominant. I guess that's why Roach gets paid the big bucks. It takes a strategist to create a solid gameplan to be successful in this fight. Good video btw. Good break down.
@Hudathan - Ok, how exactly did you come to your conclusion of Manny gets the edge? You mentioned Cotto taking out Zab Judah and Shane Mosley, both better technical BOXERS than Manny. You said you think Manny is good enough to box his way to victory? Based upon what evidence? In his last few fights we've seen no boxing, we've seen two punchbags get beaten. One that didn't throw back and the other with zero defense. Just before that being completely outboxed by Marquez. So, I'm a little confused?
southstar the Mosley win was great but that was a different Cotto and Manny is a different puzzle from Mosley. Cotto had a lot of problems against Judah before Judah's lack of defense and stamina worn him down. Manny is better than Judah and Cotto is still questionable after the Margarito fight. I don't think he was completely outboxed by Marquez, it was a close fight both times.
When I say completely outboxed, I mean in the technical aspect of things. Landing counters, controlling pace, is pretty much what I saw from Marquez, which I equate to technical boxing. Sure Manny held the fight close, but it was more effective aggression, than boxing, thus outboxed- simply just not outfought.
Yeah! You said it right - Stop crying! FCOL! Cotto accepted it because he know's he can beat Pacquiao at 145Lbs. Pacquiao should be the underdog here. Pacquiao is Older, Shorter, and has to jump to welterweight limits. Both fighters will have to sacrifice something to prove themselves. But in my honest opinion Cotto will lose this one co'z of speed. But Cotto can do a lucky punch and if that happens Pacquiao is destroyed! But Manny is wise enough to avoid Cotto's power hook and punch. Pac in 4th
Great analysis. I really do think the words and concept, "finely tuned" and "calibrated" really express and articulate the science and process of making weight and the potential consequences of changing this from the norm.
My point of analysis/prediction would be ring IQ. Although roach is a genius, inside the ring I think Cotto is way smarter than Manny. He has a great sense of timing and I feel he can adjust much better.
ok ok ok.. alot of people are underestimating Manny's height... my opinion is this.. "IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW TALL YOU ARE!!!" as The Rock would say... but no seriously.. he faced guys bigger than him and guess what happened..?? *yeah i thought so...* I respect both fighters but I'm rooting for my man Pacquiao here...!! onto WINNING THE 7TH CHAMPIONSHIP BELT BABY!! GO PACMAN!!..
hey there Huda, although i am a cotto fan i really liked ur analogy of the fight. great job. but 2 things people forget about cotto, is that his straight right is under rated and he has a hook jab like manny does. the same one that put clottey down. he is a crafty fighter. but yea we as fans should be the winner for this fight.
I totally agree with you, but i see cotto winning, but you never no what can happen, plus with manny speed it could be very intresting, i would love tosee a pac man vs floyd that would be great, the fight aint gona be stopped from cuts, look at the cut cotto got fromclottey and carried on, and no way will he allow the fight to be stopped,but i got winnin but it could go either way.
Whaddup bro. I agree man, why have it as a catchweight @ 145lbs and Cotto has to defend it? Doesn't make sense to me at all. This is the best fight to make in boxing period like u said cause of there styles and they both will BRING IT. Now way is Cotto damaged goods btw. Cause he survived against Joshua Clottey (WHO KNOWBODY WANTS TO FIGHT) with that grueling gash in his eyebrows and still managed to win.
anything can happen in this fight. i dont think manny can ko cotto in the early rounds. same goes with cotto. cotto usually ko's his opponents in the late rounds. i'd say this fight will either be a late round tko or decision. i see manny winning by tko if cotto is cut or got tired in the late round because of pac's workrate. i see cotto getting the tko because he's too strong for manny and able to stop pac's quickness. in decision, i think manny has higher chance to win by decision than cotto.
GREAT ANALYSIS! but i think cotto will win by decision. one thing nobody is mentioning is cottos defense. love PACMAN but cotto comes out with the win.
(cont) the contract has 1 million penalty for every 1lb. excess on a catchweight ... roach has stated "cotto can go 147 but if he exceeds more than that we will cancel the fight" .. this is just to inform other guys here.. now lets move on your fight breakdown ... i agree with how rational you think the fight will go ... i think your prediction might be 70% accurate ... but the remaining 30% are for those people who are crazy that believes pacman will KO cotto at the early rounds... including me
Exactly what i've been saying is that if ppl think PACMAN is going to blow Cotto outta the water there NUTS! Cotto's JAB is GREAT and will set up everything else in Cotto's arsenal THE LEFT HOOK TO THE BODY, THE STR8 RIGHT, and of course the jab again. Cotto has fought the BETTER opponents and Pacquiao has never fought a fighter like Cotto's overall fightgame. I do see a WAR in there and the power difference will be evident in the middle rounds. Cotto by tko in 9.
the catchweight was originally proposed at 143-44 by pacman's camp coz its a half way b/w their current weight at that time ... but cotto refused and he will only fight not lower than 145 and the belt wasnt at stake at that time ... to make the fight more exciting Bob Arum convinced cotto to put the belt on the line ... now regarding the 145 weight... it wasnt dictated by pacman's camp.. it was cotto's camp who suggested it ... (to be continued)
u talk as if its the first catchweight that ever happend ! come on men know the history first ! .. some of the boxing legends did that its not pacquiao fault that there is a catchweight ! pacquiao is the pound for pound number 1 he have all the rights to dictate what he want! . besides cotto weight in 146 his last fight whats 1 pound pls !
PhilMarl I never said it was the first catch weight that's ever happened. In fact I broke down my opinions on the matter. Just because some fighters have done it before doesn't mean I have to like it now, and I will continue to feel this way when it happens again in the future.
looks like cotto, it also shows that manny has never really weigh in that high. when he fought oscar, he weigh 142lbs. to me, manny is a 135 to 140lbs fighter....he only fights bigger guys because of that's where the big money fights are. this analysis however doesn't give much about the prediction of the fight.
ugot evrything dow nt oa tee man! well done, this will be areal test for Emannuel. i dont think he'll be the same after this fight regardless of the result
manny is the p4p champ(more important than any belts that cotto has) that is the only reason that the fight is made at 145...MANNY HAS ALL THE REASON TO PURSUE THIS ITS COTTOS CHANCE TO BE P4P AND TO HAVE THE BIGGEST PURSE OF HIS CARRER..
its not about coTtos belt...ITS ABOUT THE P4P KINGSHIP OF MANNY IS AT STAKE!!
yes on fight night cotto is gonna weight around 160, thats why the 145 catchweight doesnt bother me, i agree with your analysis and would like to add if this fight goes to the scorecards, the judges will favor manny imo, cotto wont be as big a draw against mayweather and las vegas is pacquiaos adopted hometown
good points. i think there's no such thing as a catchweight, if a fighter agreed to fight a fighter at a certain weight. then there should be no excuse, IMO. once a fighter signed the fight, then there's no excuse at all. I hate to see my favorite fighters fight each other but it's going to be a great historic night. can't wait.
I breakdown of this fight is really something that bugles the mind..I know cotto is not that smart to begin with he cant adjust to a sustain assault from a south paw and manny got his right hook is officially a treat it give him a angle that cotto not account for b-coz of speed that it delivers..KO on 6-7 round.
The catchweight is 145lbs but that doesn't mean cotto can't weigh 147. Roach said in their press con that cotto would be allowed only upto 2lbs over the catch weight so 145+2=147lbs. Above 147 then the match is off.. Please do more research so people will get ACCURATE facts.
DAMN HUDATHAN U TURNED BACK ON YOUR ORIGINAL PREDICTION! I'm sticking with mine TKO or KO before round 9, but you put alot less confidence in my prediction! haha it's fine... either way all the fans will get what they want this fight.
Flowey lol did I pick Cotto at some point? I'm cool with either guy winning, both are good guys, but I do think Manny holds the advantage in this match up.
If he wins this....he should go down in top 20 all time greats IMO but im a nutthugger so idk but i honestly feel pacquiao is on the brink of greatness that few fighters reach.
Pacman will be throwing 80-100 punches per round against a guy like Cotto who he will likely be able to hit very easily. Pacman will be able to land his power punches at will on Cotto. I see Cotto getting real bloodied up around the 7th and 8th round.
funny comments... If Cotto gets destroyed at the weight in which he has the title, then why the hell can't Pac-girl step up and challenge him for that title? ya think about that 1.
That also doesn't make much sense, Lightwelter should be called Lightweight? ok... then should we just tell all banton weights, and star weights they can't compete anymore because we moved everything up, or will we have to create super jr tiny bantonweight division??
True I think it needs to be mandatory that all fighters weigh in before the fight. 2-3hours is enough to rehydrate some liquids, if the fighter had to drain out a bit.
dieallday I would have voiced my objections each one of those times. I'm not arguing that we shouldn't have catch weight fights for belts, because that's not the reality, but merely saying I don't personally like it. And I would like nothing more than to be rid of the junior/super divisions and all the sanctioning bodies until there is only one title in each legit division.
your crazy dawg if u dont think getting KO by Margartio will affect cotto , get hit with cement blocks for 10 rounds and let me know if your the same afterwards , cotto is damaged goods as they would say
gqunit69, no doubt the experience with Margarito lingers with Cotto, but I wouldn't say he is damaged goods until I see how he looks come fight night. So far I'm not convinced.
yea i respect ur opinion but i saw enough in the clottey fight to know cotto is damaged the old cotto would have destroyed clottey, manny gonna put a lot more pressure on cotto than clottey did
we'll see how Manny performs against Cotto. If Manny managed to knock him out or win against a bigger man convincingly then I'll give Pacman a shot at besting Mosley. This fight I think is a barometer if Manny can really compete against a full pledge Welterweight. But if Manny loses then there's no way he'll beat Sugar Shane...
well its not cuz he beats cotto he could beat ssm if he wins in the cotto fight i have a feeling that this is gonna be so contravercial like if cotto wins but pac lasts 12 rounds i feel like they will give the fight to pac cuz they want to see pac vs floyd thats just me being honest,only way i see cotto getting a UD is if pac gets shut down ! but i feel this fight wont make it to round 12 i think cotto is way stronger than freddie & pac give him creadit for!
hey i think for what i have been watching as far as cotto & his training i think cotto is in better shape than ever & i think the fact that cotto can fight big in this fight like he use to in 140 i feel he will dominate pac for the fact i know cotto will land a shot that will make pacquiao want to turn the fight into a brawl! & pac fighting cotto in a brawl is a big no no! for me i think pac can stick to the plan of staying on the out side for only so long,that said i got cotto by ko b4 round 9
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aznracerboi2k5 1 year ago
bro ur sooooo........ wrong on this 1 hehehe
jrtambal 2 years ago
Give me back my Ten Minutes you've wasted.
bantayogband 2 years ago
Can you please give me a favor ! Stop making a video please , You do not know anything about boxing. Thank you <<<
kailikobe 2 years ago
kailikobe. I agree with you a 100%
81tokits81 2 years ago
81tokits81, you spend a lot of time on my videos for someone who refuses to listen to anything I say. How about spending your time on something productive.
Hudathan 2 years ago
OK David, I'll try.
Though I mostly have negative comments, I think your channel is a good forum since you try to respond to the comments, negative or positive.
I will just wait for your spin for on the upcoming Pacquiao-Mayweather fight.
Thanks
81tokits81 2 years ago
so if you said it is not a problem, this catchweight, why spend almost 5 minutes talking about it
besides, i am sure that if cotto kayo'd pacquiao, this catchweight will not even be an issue at all. i feel like you are just emphasising 'catchweight' before the fight so you have an easy excuse when cotto losses, as he did
simianne 2 years ago
simianne, I said Manny was going to win the fight, why do I need an excuse for Cotto losing?
Hudathan 2 years ago
"despite being almost an EVEN fight, I'm gonna have to give the slight JUST A SLIGHT EDGE to the filipino phenom Manny pacquiao".
Well bro, it was a lopsided victory. Are you still going to insist that you were not wrong on the details of your prediction?
ome0407 2 years ago
"anybody predicting an early knockout, that's just crazy, it's not gonna happen at this level of the game against somebody like Miguel Cotto not against an opponent of his caliber".
Well obviously you were wrong. Cotto was down on the 3rd and 4th round. If Cotto did not start making a retreat on the 6th round, the fight could have ended earlier. I've watched your post fight analysis and i was surprised that you don't have the balls to admit that you were wrong on the details of your prediction.
ome0407 2 years ago
ome0407, Cotto was stopped in the 12th, and one can argue it should have been stopped at the end of the 9th, so obviously I'm not wrong. In fact, anyone that predicted an early knockout were the ones proven wrong, like Freddie Roach said with his 1st round prediction, so nice try pal.
Hudathan 2 years ago
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ome0407 2 years ago
wrong wrong wrong. lol Manny didn't win the fight by going straight. his punches was going from all direction like cotto said he didn't know where punches were coming from. manny beat the shit of cotto.
lxink 2 years ago
mexifanatic it'll be up before the end of the night brother.
Hudathan 2 years ago
Thank you mexifanatic. ; )
Hudathan 2 years ago
Kung Fu boy sucks. Word of Advice to this Asian dude: "NEVER DOUBT A FIGHTER LIKE PAC WHO IS DESTINED TO GREATNESS BECAUSE HE ONLY COMES ALONG ONCE IN A LIFETIME"
JOAQUINPINOI 2 years ago
boy you were wrong...
jbombita 2 years ago
Not Available??? Early knock down happened in 4rth round. Pacman did test Cotto's punches. People don't know that Pacman sparred with Porter, the middle weight and hard hitter fighter, many times during Pac's training. Cotto can't hurt the Pacman on that night. Pacman's body has been sensitized since he sparred with Porter.
Robinhood0328 2 years ago
you mean desensitized.
ihiphopanonymous 2 years ago
You talked too much....Just do karate in the ring. All ur analysis are all WRONG.
MariaIsabellaVanessa 2 years ago
Clottey at 147 lbs
Cotto at 146 lbs
Cotto won the fight and never complained about the weight.
Manny at 144
Cotto at 145
Manny won the fight
Cotto said "I have fought all the greatest welterweights," he said, "and Manny is the best"
Robinhood0328 2 years ago
the fight reminded me of the david diaz, so sad for cotto.
souther 2 years ago
ok no more talk... pacquiao won... close this thread.. again pacquiao proves you're wrong...
d0npep0t 2 years ago
so you want to see the bull fight the goat then. miguel is fighting a lightweight in this fight. so 2 pounds below the welterweight is not a big deal. Manny is in danger in this fight. so manny has the good reason to ask for a certain weight beetween the welterweight limit. Just admit it. cotto is your man. Cant accept the fact that Manny is the best asian fighter right now. because I dont see any Korean boxer who can hop from division to division.
402aquino 2 years ago
What's up?
JOAQUINPINOI 2 years ago
Wow man, you truly know the sport. I've subscribed to you and haven't watched the videos, ran threw alot of them and I can tell you, you know the sport. Great analysis, I'm picking Pacquiao by 10th round stoppage but I'm not gonna overlook Cotto in this one. Pacquiao has the foot speed to get out of the corner and outbox Cotto. Not to mention, Cotto has been getting cut as of late, may the best man win.
ViolenceJigsaw 2 years ago
Hints!!! Manny will not run or circle around on Cotto. The truth is, Manny will wait Cotto's left body punch and Manny will swing or bend to Cotto's right which is Manny's left but before Cotto release his punch ,Manny will be the first to release his KILLER PUNCH with a blink of an eye, Don't blink your eyes!!!. Round 1 knock down! if Cotto survives that round it will be 9 or 10 round KO by Pacman!!! I've seen this strategy since Manny was in the Philippines. 100% Guaranteed!!
Robinhood0328 2 years ago
pac wins in the later rounds when those 2 lost pounds make a difference to cotto's ability to fight. great anaylsis as always.
hume12345 2 years ago
Really like the analysis because it sounds, well more probable. I do not think Manny will be toe to toe against Cotto unless Manny knows he can really hurt Cotto. If it is the other way around, that Cotto finds out Manny can't hurt him then Manny will be in trouble. THe only way I see Manny winning is by decision because Cotto is a strong dude that can take punches. Still, i think that by round 10th Pacman will be hurt and the fight will be stopped.
rmY5 2 years ago
I think Manny will go to cotto's left first. If hes far nuf 2 Cotto's left, he'll deal dmg the way he did against ODH & try landing right hooks. If he is 2 Cottos left den Cotto can't really land anything against him (jab will b deflected by the angle and the hook will be 2 far or it will jus b countered due 2 speed difference).This is assuming Manny times Cotto's left hand.I agree that later on in the fight, Manny will start going to Cotto's right only after he lands nuf right hooks 2 the cut.
ruikotsuki 2 years ago
the jab aint a good tool against southpaws.the shot cotto should use,is his good left hook, wich is a gr8 shot to use against southpaws,left hooks, str8 right crosses all night!with the jab cotto will be pawing into pacs left hand powershot!the jab aint a good shot 4 cotto to use!
951thompsonn 2 years ago
951 the jab won't be the key but if Cotto don't use it then he'll find himself in a lot of trouble. If he can't get that left hand working he's done.
Hudathan 2 years ago
cotto should look to lead with his right cross.using it abit like a jab to off set pac!he should circle left making sure he keeps his lead foot on the outside of pacmans.thats the textbook way to fight a southpaw,easy said then done tho lol cotto should look to lead with his best tool.his left hook as much as poss!we sort of know wat pacs bringing to the gunfight,its all about how cotto applys his fight!its a close one to call.cotto has more then a chance
951thompsonn 2 years ago
good analysis david, 2 more days until firepower.
P4p775 2 years ago
whats the problem with the weight dude???
making excuses? (-_-)
TSK TSK TSK..
neorybackz 2 years ago
correct me if i am wrong... 10 million dollars is at stake in this fight? is this a fact? is this after paper view?... wow 10 mills is a lot of money man...
musikerongpinoy 2 years ago
musiker there are no losers in a mega fight I guess.
Hudathan 2 years ago
The fighters weigh in at 145, but Cotto will be fighting near the Middleweight limit of 160 on fight night. Pacquiao may still be at or near the welter limit (147). He weighed 148 for the Welter fight against De la Hoya when he weighed in at 143 the day before. Cotto will have a huge weight advantage regardless of the catch weight. IMO fighters shouldn't be allowed to gain more than 5 lb when they rehydrate. In all probability on the 14th you'll see a Middle Wt fighting a Welter Wt.
pijoe7752 2 years ago
Just to correct you on the Catch weight buddy!!. Before the match was made on both camps, Roach or Team Pac were asking Cotto's camp if they will agree with the 142 or 143 lbs match up but they did not agree. Cotto's camp want to fight Pac at 145 lbs. They're the one who decided that weight coz before Roach was asking Mosley on that weight but he refused it.
Robinhood0328 2 years ago
Robinhood, just because Cotto's camp wanted to at least weigh 145 pounds doesn't mean they 'chose' 145 pounds. It's still a two pound compromise when the fight should be at 147 all along.
Hudathan 2 years ago
i think we are gonna see a knock out but agree with what you said at the top with having it either be a catchweight or a title fight...but like you said i'll take it the way it is rather than leave it
strikehearts 2 years ago
YES, i agree and GREAT BREAKDOWN
rshadio 2 years ago
I am Filipino and definitely a Pacman fan. But I value your opinion. Thanks.
nilofc 2 years ago
Pacquiao box his way to victory? Since when has Pacquiao been a "boxer" he is only a fighter he does not outbox his opponents he just KO's them.
If anything Cotto is a better boxer, and he has better footwork, defense, weaving punches, good punch rate, great jab.
Pacquiao's only real advantage is speed. He doesn't have a jab, no defense (always takes a punch then raises his hands in the air which is annoying)
Pacquiao's been outboxed before by Morales 1st fight & by Marquez (won more rounds)
mjxiv2325 2 years ago
well maybe your right but if pacquiao beats the shyt outa cotto then you won't have shyt to say.
8rll6 2 years ago
Good video. But, Manny circling to Cotto's right is fundamentally wrong for a southpaw, when fighting a conventional fighter. When a southpaw circles to the direction opposite of his jab hand, he's walking directly in the line of fire of his opponents power hand, (straight right hand) which is the cryptonite against the southpaw fighter. Pac should circle to his own right (his jab hand) and force Cotto to circle to the direction opposite of his own jab hand.
ashyknuckles1 2 years ago
ashy that's all correct but I think Cotto's left hand is the more dangerous of the two so Manny would have a easier time going the other way and still be able to get angles on his own left hand. But who knows, I'm sure Freddy has him working on something.
Hudathan 2 years ago
That's a good point. Cotto is left hand dominant. I guess that's why Roach gets paid the big bucks. It takes a strategist to create a solid gameplan to be successful in this fight. Good video btw. Good break down.
ashyknuckles1 2 years ago
@Hudathan - Ok, how exactly did you come to your conclusion of Manny gets the edge? You mentioned Cotto taking out Zab Judah and Shane Mosley, both better technical BOXERS than Manny. You said you think Manny is good enough to box his way to victory? Based upon what evidence? In his last few fights we've seen no boxing, we've seen two punchbags get beaten. One that didn't throw back and the other with zero defense. Just before that being completely outboxed by Marquez. So, I'm a little confused?
southstaronline 2 years ago
southstar the Mosley win was great but that was a different Cotto and Manny is a different puzzle from Mosley. Cotto had a lot of problems against Judah before Judah's lack of defense and stamina worn him down. Manny is better than Judah and Cotto is still questionable after the Margarito fight. I don't think he was completely outboxed by Marquez, it was a close fight both times.
Hudathan 2 years ago
When I say completely outboxed, I mean in the technical aspect of things. Landing counters, controlling pace, is pretty much what I saw from Marquez, which I equate to technical boxing. Sure Manny held the fight close, but it was more effective aggression, than boxing, thus outboxed- simply just not outfought.
southstaronline 2 years ago
Yeah! You said it right - Stop crying! FCOL! Cotto accepted it because he know's he can beat Pacquiao at 145Lbs. Pacquiao should be the underdog here. Pacquiao is Older, Shorter, and has to jump to welterweight limits. Both fighters will have to sacrifice something to prove themselves. But in my honest opinion Cotto will lose this one co'z of speed. But Cotto can do a lucky punch and if that happens Pacquiao is destroyed! But Manny is wise enough to avoid Cotto's power hook and punch. Pac in 4th
98Mojo 2 years ago
good analysis but i think cotto will get knocked out in the 5th 6th or 7th round..
coNsPirAcy083 2 years ago
Slight edge to Manny. The X factor would be Freddie Roach. Manny + Freddie can switch to plan B and still work wonders.
CEOLISSS 2 years ago
Great analysis. I really do think the words and concept, "finely tuned" and "calibrated" really express and articulate the science and process of making weight and the potential consequences of changing this from the norm.
My point of analysis/prediction would be ring IQ. Although roach is a genius, inside the ring I think Cotto is way smarter than Manny. He has a great sense of timing and I feel he can adjust much better.
nadagain 2 years ago
I like the way you analysis this fight I'm picking Cotto late round TKO
freddy092934 2 years ago
dude stop hating..thats why cotto got 4 months to train for that weight. stop hatin' ching ching.
sprpacman 2 years ago
ok ok ok.. alot of people are underestimating Manny's height... my opinion is this.. "IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW TALL YOU ARE!!!" as The Rock would say... but no seriously.. he faced guys bigger than him and guess what happened..?? *yeah i thought so...* I respect both fighters but I'm rooting for my man Pacquiao here...!! onto WINNING THE 7TH CHAMPIONSHIP BELT BABY!! GO PACMAN!!..
B33ZMR 2 years ago
hey there Huda, although i am a cotto fan i really liked ur analogy of the fight. great job. but 2 things people forget about cotto, is that his straight right is under rated and he has a hook jab like manny does. the same one that put clottey down. he is a crafty fighter. but yea we as fans should be the winner for this fight.
rikenpapi 2 years ago
cotto has to much respet for the sport to do wut mayweather did to marquez with the whole weigh in thing!
MrSamslab 2 years ago
I totally agree with you, but i see cotto winning, but you never no what can happen, plus with manny speed it could be very intresting, i would love tosee a pac man vs floyd that would be great, the fight aint gona be stopped from cuts, look at the cut cotto got fromclottey and carried on, and no way will he allow the fight to be stopped,but i got winnin but it could go either way.
keep[ thevids comin
PeAcE
FNWO1 2 years ago
FNWO1, I feel the same way, no one will stop this fight except Cotto himself. The referee definitely won't, and certainly not Cotto's green corner.
Hudathan 2 years ago
@Hudathan
Whaddup bro. I agree man, why have it as a catchweight @ 145lbs and Cotto has to defend it? Doesn't make sense to me at all. This is the best fight to make in boxing period like u said cause of there styles and they both will BRING IT. Now way is Cotto damaged goods btw. Cause he survived against Joshua Clottey (WHO KNOWBODY WANTS TO FIGHT) with that grueling gash in his eyebrows and still managed to win.
585WeDaBest 2 years ago
anything can happen in this fight. i dont think manny can ko cotto in the early rounds. same goes with cotto. cotto usually ko's his opponents in the late rounds. i'd say this fight will either be a late round tko or decision. i see manny winning by tko if cotto is cut or got tired in the late round because of pac's workrate. i see cotto getting the tko because he's too strong for manny and able to stop pac's quickness. in decision, i think manny has higher chance to win by decision than cotto.
aznvedz 2 years ago
GREAT ANALYSIS! but i think cotto will win by decision. one thing nobody is mentioning is cottos defense. love PACMAN but cotto comes out with the win.
MrSamslab 2 years ago
(cont) the contract has 1 million penalty for every 1lb. excess on a catchweight ... roach has stated "cotto can go 147 but if he exceeds more than that we will cancel the fight" .. this is just to inform other guys here.. now lets move on your fight breakdown ... i agree with how rational you think the fight will go ... i think your prediction might be 70% accurate ... but the remaining 30% are for those people who are crazy that believes pacman will KO cotto at the early rounds... including me
d0npep0t 2 years ago
d0npep0t here's to hoping Cotto doesn't pull a Floyd Mayweather come weigh in.
Hudathan 2 years ago
@Hudathan
Exactly what i've been saying is that if ppl think PACMAN is going to blow Cotto outta the water there NUTS! Cotto's JAB is GREAT and will set up everything else in Cotto's arsenal THE LEFT HOOK TO THE BODY, THE STR8 RIGHT, and of course the jab again. Cotto has fought the BETTER opponents and Pacquiao has never fought a fighter like Cotto's overall fightgame. I do see a WAR in there and the power difference will be evident in the middle rounds. Cotto by tko in 9.
585WeDaBest 2 years ago
the catchweight was originally proposed at 143-44 by pacman's camp coz its a half way b/w their current weight at that time ... but cotto refused and he will only fight not lower than 145 and the belt wasnt at stake at that time ... to make the fight more exciting Bob Arum convinced cotto to put the belt on the line ... now regarding the 145 weight... it wasnt dictated by pacman's camp.. it was cotto's camp who suggested it ... (to be continued)
d0npep0t 2 years ago
d0npep0t that's one way to put it.
Hudathan 2 years ago
To Much Talkingggggggggg!!! leave it all to the two fighters on the ring and enjoy the show!!!
khoamizmo 2 years ago
u talk as if its the first catchweight that ever happend ! come on men know the history first ! .. some of the boxing legends did that its not pacquiao fault that there is a catchweight ! pacquiao is the pound for pound number 1 he have all the rights to dictate what he want! . besides cotto weight in 146 his last fight whats 1 pound pls !
PhilMarl 2 years ago
PhilMarl I never said it was the first catch weight that's ever happened. In fact I broke down my opinions on the matter. Just because some fighters have done it before doesn't mean I have to like it now, and I will continue to feel this way when it happens again in the future.
Hudathan 2 years ago
yeah...cotto usually comes in 146 or 146 1/2. so losing 1 pound is no sweat for cotto. also, he started 1 month early.
aznvedz 2 years ago
Last fight weigh ins.
Cotto: 146 lbs
Pacquiao: 138 lbs
This coming fight is for 145 lbs
Cotto needs to lose 1 lb
Pacquiao needs to gain 7 lbs
Whose advantage?
bochokorog 2 years ago
bochokorog, regardless of the weight, no excuses once both men step into the ring.
Hudathan 2 years ago
looks like cotto, it also shows that manny has never really weigh in that high. when he fought oscar, he weigh 142lbs. to me, manny is a 135 to 140lbs fighter....he only fights bigger guys because of that's where the big money fights are. this analysis however doesn't give much about the prediction of the fight.
aznvedz 2 years ago
ugot evrything dow nt oa tee man! well done, this will be areal test for Emannuel. i dont think he'll be the same after this fight regardless of the result
shevyblaze 2 years ago
manny is the p4p champ(more important than any belts that cotto has) that is the only reason that the fight is made at 145...MANNY HAS ALL THE REASON TO PURSUE THIS ITS COTTOS CHANCE TO BE P4P AND TO HAVE THE BIGGEST PURSE OF HIS CARRER..
its not about coTtos belt...ITS ABOUT THE P4P KINGSHIP OF MANNY IS AT STAKE!!
queenessful 2 years ago
Great show5*, i do feel your points, but I believe in Cotto conditining to take the fight down the stretch. Peace Vick
13oct1992 2 years ago
I agree with your deduction. I see Manny making boxing history and i'll be there to witness that awesome event. Mabuhay si Manny!!
PsychTech 2 years ago
PsychTech have a good time!
Hudathan 2 years ago
david .. ur the shit man... all ur ponts make sense...i agree with u on the catch weigh bs.. and for the belt.. psh... bs..
i want cotto to win!!!!
bigasstire 2 years ago
Good vid and I agree Pac will win this one.
balistik94 2 years ago
PacMan all da way lol =)
Let me know the results as I wont be able to see it
Love this angle and shot, awesome top =D
**slides up on ur lap pwahaha**
kurostorm 2 years ago
just get to the prediction.... PANCAKE FACE!
theblunttruth 2 years ago
What about gaining weight? from 100- 145 lbs
ReyGilliano 2 years ago
yes on fight night cotto is gonna weight around 160, thats why the 145 catchweight doesnt bother me, i agree with your analysis and would like to add if this fight goes to the scorecards, the judges will favor manny imo, cotto wont be as big a draw against mayweather and las vegas is pacquiaos adopted hometown
thisisgame 2 years ago
i got many also.peace
kg21carlito 2 years ago
manny will win
jr503jr 2 years ago
good vid like always, keep it up!
phook85 2 years ago
the fight haven't even started yet and WOW so many excuses already, IMO Cotto fans are just too scared their champ will go down on November 14 LOL
mighk21 2 years ago
LMAO @ the bloodsport theme music in the beginning... classic!
luvinalize 2 years ago
one of the more intelligent analysis of Cotto Vs Pacquiao I have heard so far. All points are valid and can used as an advice to both boxing camps.
Kudos to you and with the magnitude of the fight; may the best man win.
Truly, the fans are the one who comes out victorious in this fight.
Thank you Cotto and Pacquiao for being a gentleman and honorable sportsmen.
You are both equal as role models to future boxers.
alphamarket 2 years ago
good points. i think there's no such thing as a catchweight, if a fighter agreed to fight a fighter at a certain weight. then there should be no excuse, IMO. once a fighter signed the fight, then there's no excuse at all. I hate to see my favorite fighters fight each other but it's going to be a great historic night. can't wait.
pincan07 2 years ago
good video sir.
XSneakerHead818X 2 years ago
good analysis.... but i got the slight edge to cotto.. but thats just my opinion lol...
may the best man win this weekend
AirJohnston 2 years ago
When cotto fight clottey his 146 lbs now its 145 with pacman cotto will end up weighing 147 on the night the fight.
raiden1019 2 years ago
I breakdown of this fight is really something that bugles the mind..I know cotto is not that smart to begin with he cant adjust to a sustain assault from a south paw and manny got his right hook is officially a treat it give him a angle that cotto not account for b-coz of speed that it delivers..KO on 6-7 round.
shinobio9 2 years ago
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raiden1019 2 years ago
Wasn't cotto the one who asked for 145 in his terms.
Its not just the belt is in the line but its also for P4P title, which is an asset itself to be named as the number one P4P.
Cotto can go in at 147 if he wants to
GuEnavEre408 2 years ago
This fight will only go only 3 rounds..cotto has no speed and has low defense..While Manny is on Steriods.
nil1230 2 years ago
YES cotto is allowed to weigh 147 >.>
The catchweight is 145lbs but that doesn't mean cotto can't weigh 147. Roach said in their press con that cotto would be allowed only upto 2lbs over the catch weight so 145+2=147lbs. Above 147 then the match is off.. Please do more research so people will get ACCURATE facts.
2007006096 2 years ago
He's gonna lose a LOT of pocket change if he comes in over 145.
overlordkrull 2 years ago
Cotto will come to the weight in, UNDER 145, id say 144.
odin422 2 years ago
DAMN HUDATHAN U TURNED BACK ON YOUR ORIGINAL PREDICTION! I'm sticking with mine TKO or KO before round 9, but you put alot less confidence in my prediction! haha it's fine... either way all the fans will get what they want this fight.
FloweySkillz 2 years ago
Flowey lol did I pick Cotto at some point? I'm cool with either guy winning, both are good guys, but I do think Manny holds the advantage in this match up.
Hudathan 2 years ago
Ya and you had a ton of valid points. I think both of them will go for the KO at some point, defaintly fight of the year if it goes that way.
FloweySkillz 2 years ago
Manny out boxing Cotto I don't think would happen & if it does then damn lol
Voice4Vendetta 2 years ago
Riddler if Manny looks good in this fight I think he will finally deserve a lot of the credit he's been given since the De La Hoya victory.
Hudathan 2 years ago
If he wins this....he should go down in top 20 all time greats IMO but im a nutthugger so idk but i honestly feel pacquiao is on the brink of greatness that few fighters reach.
Voice4Vendetta 2 years ago
Pacman will be throwing 80-100 punches per round against a guy like Cotto who he will likely be able to hit very easily. Pacman will be able to land his power punches at will on Cotto. I see Cotto getting real bloodied up around the 7th and 8th round.
jmagik2 2 years ago
pacman is gonna get raped nov 14th
anikin69 2 years ago
in the modern day boxing
i feel that the weight division are no longer title properly
I think that the light welter weight should be called welter weight
lightweight should be called light welter weight and so on
dieallday 2 years ago
funny comments... If Cotto gets destroyed at the weight in which he has the title, then why the hell can't Pac-girl step up and challenge him for that title? ya think about that 1.
That also doesn't make much sense, Lightwelter should be called Lightweight? ok... then should we just tell all banton weights, and star weights they can't compete anymore because we moved everything up, or will we have to create super jr tiny bantonweight division??
FloweySkillz 2 years ago
dude i am talking about same day weight in where the fighters have only 8to7 hours to rehydrate not 24 hours
and you are missing the point on the label of the titles
all i am saying is that in the old days fighters used to fight with in close range to their weight limit not like these days
when paul williams comes in 147 and the next day he is fucking 165
thats fucking almost 20 pounds over the 147
dieallday 2 years ago
True I think it needs to be mandatory that all fighters weigh in before the fight. 2-3hours is enough to rehydrate some liquids, if the fighter had to drain out a bit.
FloweySkillz 2 years ago
wow dave slow down homie
Leonard won the title at 168 and the 175 belt
and he forced the 175(sorry cant remember his name) champ come down to 168 and fight him for his belt
what about bhop and winky
ur argument is somewhat weak my man
i say fuck it and make it the same day weigh in
and cotto gets creamed even if he comes in 147 for the weigh in
the catch weight is to prevent cotton coming in at 162 -158
manny is the only true welter in this fight caz he will come in 147 during fight
dieallday 2 years ago
dieallday I would have voiced my objections each one of those times. I'm not arguing that we shouldn't have catch weight fights for belts, because that's not the reality, but merely saying I don't personally like it. And I would like nothing more than to be rid of the junior/super divisions and all the sanctioning bodies until there is only one title in each legit division.
Hudathan 2 years ago
yeah me too
but unfortunately it is not going to happen unless we have big network like cbs,fox, abc(whose pockets are almost endless)
take over boxing and do the governing
you know what i mean
It can happen but it would take a lot of green to make it happen
caz we as fans cant really do anything
caz we love this shit so much to boycott it
you know what i mean
a week without good fight(dose not have to be a title fight )is bad week for me lol
lol
dieallday 2 years ago
dieallday you're right about that brother, we're all fight junkies.
Hudathan 2 years ago
i think i need rehab lol
dieallday 2 years ago
so you are saying manny will win? didnt catch any prediction here.
shacasulu 2 years ago
shacasulu yeah I got Manny winning by decision.
Hudathan 2 years ago
your crazy dawg if u dont think getting KO by Margartio will affect cotto , get hit with cement blocks for 10 rounds and let me know if your the same afterwards , cotto is damaged goods as they would say
gqunit69 2 years ago
gqunit69, no doubt the experience with Margarito lingers with Cotto, but I wouldn't say he is damaged goods until I see how he looks come fight night. So far I'm not convinced.
Hudathan 2 years ago
yea i respect ur opinion but i saw enough in the clottey fight to know cotto is damaged the old cotto would have destroyed clottey, manny gonna put a lot more pressure on cotto than clottey did
gqunit69 2 years ago
manny vs suga shane for the real 147 belt would have been a better figth
gqunit69 2 years ago
no way dude ssm would easly beat pac why do you think roach wont let pac fight ssm even at 140 lol..
FU3G024 2 years ago
we'll see how Manny performs against Cotto. If Manny managed to knock him out or win against a bigger man convincingly then I'll give Pacman a shot at besting Mosley. This fight I think is a barometer if Manny can really compete against a full pledge Welterweight. But if Manny loses then there's no way he'll beat Sugar Shane...
sf49ers510 2 years ago
well its not cuz he beats cotto he could beat ssm if he wins in the cotto fight i have a feeling that this is gonna be so contravercial like if cotto wins but pac lasts 12 rounds i feel like they will give the fight to pac cuz they want to see pac vs floyd thats just me being honest,only way i see cotto getting a UD is if pac gets shut down ! but i feel this fight wont make it to round 12 i think cotto is way stronger than freddie & pac give him creadit for!
FU3G024 2 years ago
Good video! No excuses after the fight.
mariodelmindo 2 years ago
damn dude the blood sport song on this thats old school lol...
FU3G024 2 years ago
You know it FU3G0!
Hudathan 2 years ago
hey i think for what i have been watching as far as cotto & his training i think cotto is in better shape than ever & i think the fact that cotto can fight big in this fight like he use to in 140 i feel he will dominate pac for the fact i know cotto will land a shot that will make pacquiao want to turn the fight into a brawl! & pac fighting cotto in a brawl is a big no no! for me i think pac can stick to the plan of staying on the out side for only so long,that said i got cotto by ko b4 round 9
FU3G024 2 years ago
Agree with the weight issue, as well as the importance of Cotto's jab.
overlordkrull 2 years ago