L. Jesus is NOT a god, neither son of the god, L. Jesus is a holly profit, and messenger from the great god, this trinity story is addition token from old Egypt, if a new faro wanted to rule Egypt,he needed two more things, royal blood, therefore he has to marry a royal woman, en a relationship with the "god", then people call hem "son of the god", so everybody had to accept these new farao.
@JackFellows786 When Jesus came into the world (God in flesh) I truly believe he came to be all that is man. Meaning the same issues humans have, such as abiding by the "Law" temptation, knowing the hearts of men, but not knowing their mind. I believe he could have known all thing if he chose to, but WILLINGLY didn't to be completely human. Its the same as " no man knows the day nor hour, not the angels, nor the Son, but my father only" not knowing out of his willingness.
@JackFellows786 Revelation 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
to whom jesus pray ...why he need to pray.... he had to pray !!! if he pray daily then the sprit he pray is better then him.. if he pray i do not think he is god or son of god...
@polinpial L. Jesus is NOT a god, neither son of the god, L. Jesus is a holly profit, and messenger from the great god, this trinity story is addition token from old Egypt, if a new faro wanted to rule Egypt,he needed two more things, royal blood, therefore he has to marry a royal woman, en a relationship with the "god", then people call hem "son of the god", so everybody had to accept these new farao.
The big question, if Jesus is a "God", why did he need to pray. I love Jesus very much but will not bring myself to worship him, but the creator that created him, An attribute of God is, No Begining or No end, Jesus has a begining, so he cannot be God. and the book of Acts he is called a servant of God, so no way he is God, yes he has brought the message from God, so when he says come to me and you shall be with God (something like that), he means come learn from me he was a teacher....
@JackFellows786 here's one of the many reasons. You're a follower of Jesus right? It would be awesome to find out you were. But even the most mature Christians have questions. But here: prayer builds relationships. It's like talking. So, imagine Jesus being the Son, which he is, and the Father. Jesus is talking with his dad. That's why he prayed. It's like a child coming to their dad to talk with them, a true image of love. Jesus wanted to stay close to his Father.
@JackFellows786 the whole father,holy spirit,son has been added to the beliefs about jesus throughout time.Jesus(wasn't called jesus in his time)
was a prophet just like mozes,abraham,solomon and the final messenger muhammad.
i not trying to convert you or anything:the bible predicts the coming of muhammad in the song of solomon,bible doesn't say once jesus is god(it does say father,but father can also be translated to lord,god)
Yes the guy is very true we need to take time and pray out loud to god and just like what that guy said pray and talk to him We need to make god happy and please the lord and make him happy
Matthew 26:39 And he (Jesus) went a little farther,and fell on his face,and prayed,saying,O My Father(God),if it be possible,let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will,but as thou wilt.JESUS (PBUH) PRAYED THE WAY MUSILS PRAY
@kingbradley6000 So you wake up early and pray? Do you pray like Jesus said in Matthew 6? Our Father prayer
Do you pray in the name of Jesus like Jesus told us to? Can you tell me how Abraham prayed? This is not an attack I just want to know how think about this;) God bless you
@Ernaldinho1993 well us muslims pray 5 times per day,early morning praying is recomended in islam,i dont know much about matthew 6 but we believe jesus used to pray with his face on the ground.we pray in the name of all prophets who lived....soo yea jesus prayed exactly like abraham we believe.......thank you,may allah's peace be upon you.......
PEOPLE ALWAYS SAY THAT ISLAM TEACHES TO KILL...THATS OUTRAGEOUS! MOSES (PBUH) KILLED PHAROH AND DAVID (PBUH) KILLED GOLIETH...BOTH SLEW AND MURDERED IN THE NAME OF ALLAH. WHATS THE DIFFERENCE..LOL..PEOPLE ARE SUCH FOOLS AND MAKE EVERY ATTEMPT TO SLANDER ISLAM!
And in the morning, a long time before daylight, he got up and went out to a quiet place, and there he gave himself up to prayer. EXACTLY. JESUS PRAYER EARLY PRAYER DAILY THE WAY THE MUSLIMS PRAY--THE PRAYER JESUS PREFORM WAS CALLED FAJR PRAYER WICH MEANS EARLY MORNING PRAYER. MUSLIM RISE TO PRAYER LONG BEFORE THE SUN RISE
Jesus was a muslim prophet and he prayed exactly like the muslims. Infact all of the prophets before and after him were muslims and prayed the in same fassion praising the one same god (allah). The prayer jesus did before the early morning sunrise is called fajr, but before eating food he only thanked his creator allah he did not pray
@BlueMoon858 Christians get up early in the morning and prayer, and there were many ways the Jewish people of Jesus' day prayed.How does this mean he was Muslim? In fact, he was personal with God, calling him"FATHER"--he wasn't talking to a distant force like Muslims do. Jesus also made claims to deity, like saying that before Abraham was, I AM, something a mere prophet would NEVER say. I encourage you to openly look at the claims of Jesus and see he is the Son of God.
@GodLovesUs100 Jesus was a prophet, he only had better mircles. Muslims believe in Jesus to be a prophet. God or Gods son cannot die, If Jesus goes on in a room with no food or drink then he would die. This little point proves he is not God or the son of God. Christians are staright confused, this is why in Christianity you are NOT suppose to ask questions in the first place. Muslims believe in the original bible. torah & injeel, but they all got changed by humans, quron is the last book of God
@BlueMoon858 The quran claims that allah has revealed the torah and gospel(injeel), so then my question to you is "how did they become corrupt"? You claimed they were changed, but if allah has revealed them, how can that be possible?Who can corrupt what is revealed by God? ....there is no proof to this Muslim theory of changing of the Bible, the Bible we read today is what they read back then, and Jesus claimed extraordinary things about himself no mere prophet would claim
@GodLovesUs100 People changed the Biblle, torah and Gospel, when you read it you can tell very easily and also this is known to many Christian and Jewish scholers. People changed these books, but the Quron has bever ever been changed, letter for letter, word for word its still the same because Gods last prophet is Muhammad (seal of the prophets) and last book. This is why the quron will never ever change. Many enemies of Islam tried, but they failed throughout history. continued at P2...
@BlueMoon858 But the Quran says the gospel and Torah were revealed by Allah....how can man change what has been revealed by allah? This no muslim has been able to answer yet.And about your claims about corruption, you may claim it but history does not back you.In fact, the Bible shows to be have been amazingly preserved.We have thousands of manuscripts that confirm this truth.One example of this are the Dead Sea Scrolls which show us the same OT we read today is the one they read back then
@GodLovesUs100 Because there were more prophets to come, Allah did not bless the Bible to remain the same. In fact, The bible, Torah and Gospel were only for the state of Isreal. Jesus was sent only for Isreal and the prophets before him. Muahmmad and the Quron is for the whole world and the last of his prophets and book and therefore God didnt want the Quron to be changed. Even more Muhammad was the ONLY propehtwho asked Allah of this favor. Quron is a bealiveable book and should be believed.
@BlueMoon858 Say: "O People of the Book! Ye have no ground to stand upon unless ye stand fast by the Torah. (sic) The Gospel, and all the revelation that has come to you from your Lord." (S.5, A.68).....by the time this was written, according to Muslims, the Bible had been changed.Yet here allah is telling them to hold fast to the Torah and Gospel!.......and again,historical findings show us the Bible has been preserved incredibly. But the most important truth is the gospel.
@GodLovesUs100 P2.. The confusion in Christianity started when the people changed the words in the later testiments. This is because the bible was sent to many lands and they changed it according to their land law policies, then others tried to correct it and put their own mistakes etcc. The only way to know the true stories of the Bible, Torah, Gospel, is to look in the blessed Quron. The BIble, Torah, Gospel = Quron. Muhammad was mentioned in the Torah by name & hinted in the bible.
@BlueMoon858 No, he didn't.He prayed like no one had every prayed before.And you seem to be confused.Jesus was fully deity BUT TOOK ON HUMAN FLESH in order to be a substitute for humans.He was fully God but he also became fully man, and therefore, for a little while, faced human experiences(like hunger or being tired).This is not a result of his deity but of his humanity, he is the Son of God AND the Son of Man. both fully God and fully man.
@BlueMoon858 you need to accept my friend request in order to conserve through messaging...but my message was "My question: how do Muslims believe people get to heaven?"
@GodLovesUs100 People from prophet Issa's (Jesus's) generation should follow Jesus. Every human being should follow the prophets of their era. We are from Muhammads generation and should follow his teachings and Quron. However, it is not to say that we should forget the past prophets. Jesus is a very respected prophet in Islam, including Adam, Abraham, Jacob, Moses, and the rest which make up 124,000 prophets Allah had sent. According to the Quron onlly Jesus will return, but as a Muslim King!!
@BlueMoon858 the quran was written 600 years after Jesus' generation and yet it is commanded people to observe the teachings of the gospel AND the torah, which goes back even further, about 2000 years earlier in fact......anyways, did you accept my friend request?/
@GodLovesUs100 If one converts to Islam, then he or she will in fact practice Christianity the way Christianity officially outa to be practiced. This is the way to paradise. However, Allah knows best, we are not to judge. The same angel ( Gabrial) that went to Virgin Mary and all the prophets also went to Muhammad. Jews call Muhammad a false prophet because he was not chosen by God to be from Isreal, but instead the Arab peninsula as it mentions in the Bible, a prophet like Moses.
@BlueMoon858 one is Christian when they are in Christ and show their faith by following his teachings which are in the Bible. The Bible is historical accurate my friend, we have thousands upon thousands of manuscripts to prove the NT has NOT been changed.It was written and preserved for us, and those are the true words of Jesus, even his claims to be God.and again, did you accept my friend request?
@GodLovesUs100 When people convert to Islam, it is because Allah made it easy for them to convert. Allah is the all seeing, all knowing, master of the day of judgement, king of mercy. Come to Islam, come to the truth. Dont make up your religion as you like it to be, but instead follow the commands of the original texts of the Bible, Torah, Gospel and the Quron which is the very word of God. Since the other 3 books changed, its better to only follow the Quron for less confusion, 4 ur convinience.
@GodLovesUs100 Only in later testiments when people changed and re wrote the Bible is when Jesus supposedly claimed he is the son of God or God. My friend, go research for yourself and please comprehend the Bible better and judge it for yourself and find the power to question yourself to use your wisdom God blessed you with. Dont follow a book that does not make any sense. The Quron in fact fixes your confusion regarding the Bible and Jesus being God or not. Infact since you --continue P3
@GodLovesUs100 Since you are familier with Christianity, now go read the Quron & question everything in the Bible & Quron. Dont follow what people raised you with, but what actually makes sense to you & where you feel more comfortable. If its Christianity then go with Christianity. However, as a Muslim I am suppose to invite you to the one & only true religion of God. Either way, I will always have respect for Christians and Jews alike. You guys still follow the Bible that we Muslims respect.
@BlueMoon858 i actually am familiar with Islamic beliefs since I almost converted to Islam at one time, but the Lord Jesus Christ found me out of my state of blindness and saved me! Praise be to him!
@libbyandtai Before Christ lol ? I know what it means but I have no idea what point you're getting at here. If it has something to do with the video I wasn't about to watch some dumbshit rant about Jesus. You freaken dumbasses that believe in jesus/etc are just idiots. I mean seriously.. Just pure idiocy.
@dsecrup15 God Exists in 3 persons. The Father, The Son and the Spirit. Jesus is our example, The Son, prayed to the Father. As We should Pray to God the Father.
The man in the video didn’t explain how Jesus prayed. He prostrated and prayed with his head on the floor i.e. like Muslim or orthodox Jews (watch?v=0aHWASyMjwg) and that is how Christians are supposed to pray. There is not one statement in the bible were Jesus say worship me and the Holy Ghost and to dance and sing and go church on Sundays get a tree into the house for Christmas. Christianity got hijacked by roman pagans.
It really annoys me when my dad prays the exact same prayer over the food since i can remember! im 16 years old! here's how it goes. "thank you jesus for this food. thank you for blessing it to our bodies. In jesus name, amen."
christians do not see that they have fallen into the trap of idolatry. no wonder when they do not even read the Bible except for the parts they use for propagation.
@SATANWILLSAVEUS1 the bible says that if Satan had known what would happen after Jesus death- he never would have crucified the Lord- he knows he's defeated, he just doesn't want you to know that. He is the father of lies. He'll even lie to you to
to get you in the same place where he is going. He hates you with a passion and will do anything to get you to think your his right hand man.
we muslim prayer like our Prophet (jesus/Muhhamad) .... we prayer 5 times a day ....early in the morning , not like modern christian singing & dancing like crazy .... the Coptik christian in Egypt still pray like jesus do....
Jesus sounds like a he was a Muslim. He prayed early in the morning, (in Islam its called Fajr Prayer). Jesus prayed daily (in Islam this is the most important part of the religion, the remembrance of God). Jesus fasted, abstaining from food for the sake of obedience to his lord, (in Islam this is called the month of Ramadan). Jesus also prayed how Muslims pray, in Matthew 26:39 it says "he fell with his face to the ground and prayed". Also if Jesus was God who was he pray to?
@moali68 he was praying to "supergod". Just like when he was allegedly nailed to the cross and shouted out " Lord Lord why has thou forsaken me". Supergod.
Jesus is the messenger of god people he prayed bowing to god and fore head on the ground Jesus never says he is god worship me at that time god was known as father so people assumed his the son of god read the bible carefully Jesus did not say worship mr never
Jesus is not provable by other people. If you pray to Him, He will reveal Himself to you and then you will have your proof. He reveals Himself to those who seek Him with a pure and humble spirit.
@dooVoob the moment to see that jesus is not provale, that means that he is not god. second thing is that if jesus jesus was god then how could he worship god?
i know that in your bible it says somewhere that jesus used to pray to god. if jesus was god then how could he pray to himeself???
Jesus is divine, He is the son of God but He is one with the Father through the Holy Spirit. When Jesus took human form, He stripped Himself of His divine status and became a servant to the father, praying to Him.
He was not praying to Himself, He was praying to the Father. When we pray to God, the Holy Spirit of Jesus and the Father comes and dwells in us which transform into the children of God.
@dooVoob@dooVoob Muslim means a person who submit to the will of God, so if he (Jesus aka Isoh or Isa in arabic) submits to the will of God then tt makes him a Muslim. Jesus (pbuh) cannot be God cause he never claimed Divinity, Muhammad (pbuh) is a prophet, the Bible tells u to give the test for the false prophet...*.(1 John 4:1-3 NIV).* - Hence Muhammad did proclaim Jesus is from the Spirit of God, he too claim tt Jesus the Son of Mary is the Messiah. Anymore questions? =)
@InocentBystandr You are wrong but entitled to your beliefs. Jesus claimed He is ONE WITH THE FATHER.. He is the Messiah and the SON OF GOD at the same time..
He is Lord and He will be the one to judge the living and the dead..
I know what muslim means being from lebanese origine and speak arabic.
Matthew 26:39 And he went a little farther, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.
How anyone fall on his face and pray?
He prayed same as muslim pray by prostrating before ALLAH.
@rocyoungunna A Christian is a person who believes Jesus Christ died to save their soul from eternal separation from God the Father. He believes Jesus died, was buried, and was resurrected from the dead 3 days later, paying the debt of the sin that we owed, but could not pay. Christians believe Jesus is God, and that the Bible is 100% the message of God. They are supposed to live as Jesus did, but sadly, most aren't.
a perfect example of the Islamic potrayal of Kafir, which English christians would inevitably translate as 'infidel'.... but Kafir actually means 'covered up'.. see how close they are to the original teachings of Jesus (and Islam), but covered them up with fictions and myths.... and ultimately deviated...
"God let this food nourish our bodies" is a very valid prayer. Doctors know that food can harm your body too, despite the fact that it may taste very good. e.g. food may be rich in cholesterol and block your arteries and if eaten a lot give you a heart attack . thats why i pray to allah before every meal to please save me from the evils of this food that i am eating though it may taste very good to me
Just an example of how confused Christians are. You guys say, the father, the son and the holy ghost are one, so he can't pray to himself. Secondly, why doesn't he ever pray to the holy ghost. Well its obvious to everyone except the brainwashed Christians. Jesus was not god, he was praying to the creator. He never prayed to the holy ghost either as the holy ghost is not the creator. You guys got too influenced by the romens, they use to belief in men-gods and thus you have the trinity.
@LittoMoon - Jesus is not the Father, he is the Son. God became a man, he was 100% man.... 100% God.... he still had to pray to the Father. God the Son was in Flesh, God the Father was in heaven. ONE GOD, 3 PERSONS
@HDell1994 3 persons can never be one person. The trinity was fabricated in year 325 - 385. The "Dead Scrolls", the oldest biblical writings confirms that.
@pakifighter I know 3 people can't be one person, that's not what the Trinity is at all. They are three people but one God. I thank you for your attempt to help me but I'm quite sure that the Trinity is Biblical. Thank you.
@HDell1994 Read what I wrote again. The oldest biblical scrolls " The Dead Scrolls " confirms that there was no trinity in the bible before the Nicea conventions. It was there the romans put the trinity in the bible. So if you know its fabricated, why do you believe in it ? And do you know that Jesus Christ isnt his name ?
@dapawa Let me appeal to your logic. Dead scrolls = oldest biblical writings, copies of the hebrew bible. Closer to the source = more authentic.
Now, the RSV, revised Standard Version, of the bible from 1952 is based on these scrolls. They threw out the trinity, they threw out the "begotten son of God", they threw out the main concept of modern christianity because it was fabricated. Now, if your logic tells you, that the closer to the source, the faker they are, then I cant help you.
@pakifighter That still does not answer my question at all. show me in the bible where there is no trinity. Gods thoughts are not your thoughts and his ways are not your ways. Gods ways defy logic.
@dapawa Thats what Im telling you. Your bible is of questionable authenticity. When a book has been changed so many times that it isnt in its original form, it loses its credibility. The roman church made todays bible, which has been again changed numerious times by man. The original word isnt there. How can someone believe in such a book ? Its just like if I rewrote Lords of the rings, changed the plot, changed the name of the characters, changed it beginning to end and served it to you.
@dapawa In the bible, God contradicts himself. If you read the bible, it actually say that the biblical god is satan. But thats the problem with christians. You twist the words so it can suit you. You are inviting trouble. Im asking you, what is it in the bible that makes you stick to it, that is logical ?
@SupernaturalGifts777 1 Chronicles 21:1 - Satan rose up against Israel and caused David to take a census of the people of Israel.
2 Samuel 24:1 - Once again the anger of the LORD burned against Israel, and he caused David to harm them by taking a census. "Go and count the people of Israel and Judah," the LORD told him.
In one verse Satan tells him, in the other God tells him. Meaning its the same person. It is not God who allows Satan to provoce him. But God is telling David himself, so is Satan
@SupernaturalGifts777 Preachers and christians often says " no, its God who is allowing Satan to incite David. " But the verses are clear, Satan TELLS David in one verse, and God TELLS David in another verse. Nowhere is it written that God allows Satan to tell David. Both verses clearly tells you who is saying what to whom. So God = Satan. You can try to explain whatever you want, but it is written so clearly that it cant be misunderstood, or explained othervise.
@HDell1994 The concept of Trinitarianism came about 300 years after Jesus' passing at the Council of Nicaea. So, 300 yrs after Jesus some people thought "Hey, let us alter the bible.". Jesus never preached trinity. The letters written by the followers of Jesus also contradicts the modern bible : watch?v=wDrObm8aotM
The knowledge is out there, you just have to look with an open mind my brother. May peace be upon you.
@LittoMoon To god almighty, there is only one god and jesus was a SON OF GOD, his spirit, he was also SON OF MAN in the flesh. Just like us, the Christ Jesus is different than Jesus the Christ, the point is to be filled with gods grace and become christ like. Just as Jesus was which made him the christ.
Jesus is God in human flesh. God is outside time matter and space, and Jesus is inside time matter and space. But he is one and the same. God had to become human so people can relate to him and to show that he is holy and without sin. Basically thought people how to pray but most importantly he came do die for our sins so we get a chance at eternal life. Either way right and wrong is inside everyone; so we are without excuse. Use common sense. Intelligence only creates intelligence.
Jesus may be god to you but Jesus is not the creator , it is unnecessary for the creator to come in human form...the creator did not die for our sins...the creator just is and always be. your god might be a male but the creator is not a he/she the creator just is ...:) peace be with you
Well to start answering one of the dumbest questions yet. If you read the bible and believe than YES JESUS is the ONLY way and YES he is God. And what do you want him to come to earth back in those days? As a female? Back then nobody would listen to a female, God created male first and intends to use his knowledge for the best. So God is not male he just turned human, and chose male because it JUST MADE SENSE. Peace brother!
@Michaeltanase it is not about f/m i guess you read that wrong I am saying the creator did not come in HUMAN form, nothing to do with f/m ...human form...not a dumb question...? daaaaaaaa the creator is not f/m ever not even on earth it is just a belief system you live in like living inside a box and never seeing beyond
Jesus is God in human form. All the power was still his but he had to follow the same rules as humans. Only then can he show that he was like God. Yet his prayers was directed at God the way we pray to him. Therefore; the same laws of nature that apply to time, matter, and space; I would argue, does not apply outside time matter and space. If you are time matter and space and everything outside that is unknown to humans. Therefore; one hundred percent of the people believe but Jesus
@LittoMoon Jesus is the son of God. But also the son of man. Its part of the Holy Trinity which is Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. Therfor , Jesus was part God, part Man.
@LittoMoon We believe God is one made up of three. For instance for laptop to be complete you need the screen the wires the buttons etcetc. Jesus is Lord but Prays to the Lord as God took form of man to be a direct guide but gave himself man limitations until he needed supernatural powers such as healing and walkin on water.
@FoundersClickMusic Why all this jibberjapper? :p This is just another contradiction where there is one god in one place and three in another. Your explaination is also flawed as god supposedly existed before jesus was born, and therefore one should think that god should be able to exist without jesus.
This whole "three in one" thing isn't even in the bible, it's just theologians making excuses :p
@phpeni I see why you wud think that but God existed before Jesus but when he made Jesus he took form of him in the flesh as Lord but still stayed God in heaven. He gave himself man limitations. And actually it does exist in the Bible. It does not say "God is three" because God is one made up of three. The Holy spirit. Jesus. And God himself are all in the Bible.
@FoundersClickMusic Let's just take a couple of examples. They are seperate in matt 12,31 they are the same in john 10,30 they are seperate again in 1. corin 2,11 :p If the bible is holy shouldn't it be consistent?
Back to the original question, why would jesus pray to god if they are the same (john 10 30)?. Either john is wrong (and thereby making all cristians go to hell for praying to anther god :p) or matthew is wrong. Which one is it, they can't go together.
@phpeni About you saying they are seperate. You are right. But i did not phrase what i said correctly. God is not 3 in one he is one in 3. Yes there are seperate but they all make up the kingdom. While in the old testament it was God and the Holy spirit that made the kindgom. Its like this. Jesus prayed to God as our example but God put himself in Jesus. Jesus wouldnt have been as holy as he was if God didnt put himself in Jesus with certain man limitations such as prayer. He was our example.
@FoundersClickMusic Let's end this 3 in 1, 1 in 3 thing. It is common sence that 3 is 3 and 1 is 1. 3 can't be 1 and vice versa. Are you saying that god, jesus and the holy spirit are seperate enteties but they rule together?
If so, that would make christianity a polytheistic religion, which I think make most sence according to the new testament, but I don't think you find alot of christians who would agree with you on that :p
@phpeni Yeah God is 1 in three and it is possible when it come to God and really? well look on other comments on this vid and then tell me if other Christians do not agree ;)
@FoundersClickMusic You can't be 3 and 1 at the same time I can't see why you can't accept that. The only reason this "3 in 1" thing was made up, is because christianity has to be a monotheistic religion if it has to be consistent with the old testament.
Lets try to break it down, even if I made a perfect clone of myself, me and it wouldn't be the same because we would be able to act on our own, seperate from eachother. So there is 2 you see, not 2 in 1.
@phpeni Thats the thing.We aint talking clones. We talkin God in which anything is possible.If God is the creator how cant he put himself in 3? and yeah you wud both act differently but thats why Jesus was our example. Yeah you wouldact differently in character. But im talking about spirit. See i used to question aswell. Till i become a Christian 7 months ago. I will be praying for you.
@FoundersClickMusic It can't be done no matter who you are, you can't be 3 and 1 at the same time, I've made that very clear and you have agreed that they are seperate. The 3 in 1 argument is a very common cristian apolegetic and it doesn't hold water.
God can't do everything eventhough the bible says so. For example: Can god create a stone that's so heavy he himself cannot lift it?
So you see anything is NOT possible, even for gods ;)
@FoundersClickMusic I don't think we'll come to an agreement on this one so lets agree to disagree. If you ever manage to draw a onesided triangle I would love if you would pm it to me :D
@phpeni In regards to 3 in 1, lets take the example of time. Time is made up of past, present, and future, yet it is still one thing, time. They are 3 separate parts, yet still 1.
In regards to your next argument of God not being all-powerful. God cannot do everything. For example, God cannot sin, or make a square circle. He cannot do things that are against His character or against His nature. However, He can do all things within His nature and character.
@davemwyman Great example, but you can't really say that time is a thing. Lets look at time as a ruler. We split the ruler into three pieces of different lenght. Now, if we apply this analogy to the trinity it's like saying that any piece of the ruler has the same lenght as the entire ruler itself, which is false.
I'm glad you agree that god can't do anything, if we stay in the realm of geometry we can look at the trinity as a triangle where each side is the triangle. Can god draw this?
@phpeni You are right that time is not a 'thing', but rather it is a concept.The analogies made demonstrate a lack of understanding of the trinity.The three 'persons' of the trinity are co-eternal,co-equal,co-powerful and if any one of them were removed,there would be no God.The example of the triangle would actually look like this:The Father,Son,and Holy Spirit each represent a side of a triangle with equal sides.If any side of the triangle is removed, it is no longer a triangle at all.
@davemwyman I think my analogies a spot on, you may want to check out verses such as John 10:30, Acts 5:3,4, Mk. 12:29, 1 Cor. 8:4 and Isa. 45:22. There are not 3 there are 1 (actually there is 3, that's the whole point, you even said it yourself, but the problem is that it makes christianity into a polytheistic religion and therefore not consistent with the old testament).
Your version of the trinity is not found in the bible, and jesus was actually dead(removed) for 3 days...
@phpeni The trinity can be hard to grasp, I understand, but thank you for using verses from the Bible to confirm that God is one being in three persons. Here are some Old Testament verses of the trinity: Gen 1:26, Gen 3:22,Gen 11:7,Psalm 45:6-7 (q. Heb 1:8),Isa 6:8,Isa 48:6. Using the Bible will only result in a trinity.
Ex: Past, present, and future represent time. When talking about the past we are talking about time, when talking about the present we are still talking about time..
@davemwyman The verses you've shown are actually used by people who are against the trinity :p If there are more gods as in "we" and "us" the trinity fails. Christian apolegetics explain these verses as god speaking in plural because he is seen as king. If you've ever heard a monarch speak you'll notice that they refer to themself in plural as well. This is also common in hebrew.
You've already presented the time argument once and I showed you it was flawed, go back and read again.
@phpeni The refutation of the example of time demonstrated a lack of understanding of the trinity and applying it would be a false analogy. Using verses in the Bible to refute the trinity is simply to ignore what the Bible actually says. The Old Testament kings never actually spoke royal plural. Here are some more verses: John 1:1-3, Gen 1:2. Nevertheless, nothing ever comes from youtube commenting, so I encourage you to continue to read the Bible in order to grasp the concept of the trinity.
@phpeni just to say something about this, you're already assuming the 1's are the same thing. The trinity is not one being+one being+one being=one being. It is one distinct PERSON(different than being)+ one distinct person+ once distinct person= ONE BEING that is, God.
@GodLovesUs100 It's really hard to debate this issue with cristians because you all have your own definisions. What do you mean by a being? Why aren't persons beings? Is the holy spirit a person?
You don't really get anywhere trying defending this, christian theologians has given up on this issue centuries ago, it's simply a logical contradiction that emerged because the text of the NT was mixed with the OT before becoming a religion of the roman empire.
@LittoMoon God exists in 3 Persons. So Jesus the Son, was praying to the God the Father. Jesus came to earth to be an example, So He prayed to the Father as we should.
@gboogie1000 the man in the video didn’t explain how Jesus prayed. He prostrated and prayed with his head on the floor i.e. like Muslim or orthodox Jews (watch?v=0aHWASyMjwg) and that is how Christians are supposed to pray. There is not one statement in the bible were Jesus say worship me and the Holy Ghost and to dance and sing and go church on Sundays get a tree into the house for Christmas. Christianity got hijacked by roman pagans.
This was interesting. He just described the rituals of a practicing muslim. Alhamdulilah, 5 times a day,taking time,withdraw from the crowd,and speak to your creator.
Christians claim, Jesus = God. And yet Jesus prayed to God. Thus, Jesus prayed to himself. Which does not make any sense. I'm sorry Christians but Jesus peace be upon him was only a messenger sent by God to the Children of Israel. The purpose was to maintain the message of monotheism and to reinforce God's laws to the Children of Israel during that time. Simple.
Jesus warned:'' Many will say to me on that day ( Day of resurrection) , Lord Lord did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles? And then I will declare to them, I never knew you; Depart from me, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS" Matthew 7:22
this is so apsurd. christians believe that Jesus is god but they speak about Jesus praying several times a day- how can ''god'' pray?! they answer like, he is our example and teaching us to do so... bla bla... that is the role of prophet on of God. God sends prophets to be examples and to teach people how to be on right path. on my YT account i have only one video go watch for more about this christian cover up. christians! Wake up! you do not follow Jesus but Paul who oltered the message of J.
prayed in the early morning? sounds like muslim morning prayer to me.oeps it is,jesus was muslim. troll : no he wasn't muslim!
me : muslim means one who surrenders,submits himself to the one god,you deny jesus did this?
troll:no..
me:so he is muslim :)
MrProset 2 weeks ago
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L. Jesus is NOT a god, neither son of the god, L. Jesus is a holly profit, and messenger from the great god, this trinity story is addition token from old Egypt, if a new faro wanted to rule Egypt,he needed two more things, royal blood, therefore he has to marry a royal woman, en a relationship with the "god", then people call hem "son of the god", so everybody had to accept these new farao.
Nothing more.
Flying50000Ys 1 month ago
@JackFellows786 When Jesus came into the world (God in flesh) I truly believe he came to be all that is man. Meaning the same issues humans have, such as abiding by the "Law" temptation, knowing the hearts of men, but not knowing their mind. I believe he could have known all thing if he chose to, but WILLINGLY didn't to be completely human. Its the same as " no man knows the day nor hour, not the angels, nor the Son, but my father only" not knowing out of his willingness.
RICCIO5000 3 months ago
@JackFellows786 Revelation 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
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BobSalmonSmacky 3 months ago
to whom jesus pray ...why he need to pray.... he had to pray !!! if he pray daily then the sprit he pray is better then him.. if he pray i do not think he is god or son of god...
polinpial 3 months ago
@polinpial L. Jesus is NOT a god, neither son of the god, L. Jesus is a holly profit, and messenger from the great god, this trinity story is addition token from old Egypt, if a new faro wanted to rule Egypt,he needed two more things, royal blood, therefore he has to marry a royal woman, en a relationship with the "god", then people call hem "son of the god", so everybody had to accept these new farao.
Nothing more.
Flying50000Ys 1 month ago
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Jesus is a ''holly profit'' .. well done, well done.. That says everything about you
MyStIcTrE3 1 month ago
@polinpial he prayed because he was a prophet, the bible never says once he is god,worship me.
don't lose your hope in jesus tho
MrProset 2 weeks ago
The big question, if Jesus is a "God", why did he need to pray. I love Jesus very much but will not bring myself to worship him, but the creator that created him, An attribute of God is, No Begining or No end, Jesus has a begining, so he cannot be God. and the book of Acts he is called a servant of God, so no way he is God, yes he has brought the message from God, so when he says come to me and you shall be with God (something like that), he means come learn from me he was a teacher....
JackFellows786 4 months ago in playlist Pray Like Jesus
@JackFellows786 here's one of the many reasons. You're a follower of Jesus right? It would be awesome to find out you were. But even the most mature Christians have questions. But here: prayer builds relationships. It's like talking. So, imagine Jesus being the Son, which he is, and the Father. Jesus is talking with his dad. That's why he prayed. It's like a child coming to their dad to talk with them, a true image of love. Jesus wanted to stay close to his Father.
natbrain 3 months ago
@JackFellows786 the whole father,holy spirit,son has been added to the beliefs about jesus throughout time.Jesus(wasn't called jesus in his time)
was a prophet just like mozes,abraham,solomon and the final messenger muhammad.
i not trying to convert you or anything:the bible predicts the coming of muhammad in the song of solomon,bible doesn't say once jesus is god(it does say father,but father can also be translated to lord,god)
MrProset 2 weeks ago
Maybe Jesus prayed like this:
youtube.com/watch?v=TRLFeldPG3Y
asuboy75 4 months ago
Yes the guy is very true we need to take time and pray out loud to god and just like what that guy said pray and talk to him We need to make god happy and please the lord and make him happy
abigailvasquez1 5 months ago
Matthew 26:39 And he (Jesus) went a little farther,and fell on his face,and prayed,saying,O My Father(God),if it be possible,let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will,but as thou wilt.JESUS (PBUH) PRAYED THE WAY MUSILS PRAY
beatmonstaznyc 7 months ago
@beatmonstaznyc maybe Muslims pray the way Jesus prayed
ZepShepley 7 months ago
@ZepShepley We muslims pray like abraham did and that traidition was passed on 2 jesus sooo yea we do pray like jesus......
kingbradley6000 4 months ago
@kingbradley6000 So you wake up early and pray? Do you pray like Jesus said in Matthew 6? Our Father prayer
Do you pray in the name of Jesus like Jesus told us to? Can you tell me how Abraham prayed? This is not an attack I just want to know how think about this;) God bless you
Ernaldinho1993 4 months ago
@Ernaldinho1993 well us muslims pray 5 times per day,early morning praying is recomended in islam,i dont know much about matthew 6 but we believe jesus used to pray with his face on the ground.we pray in the name of all prophets who lived....soo yea jesus prayed exactly like abraham we believe.......thank you,may allah's peace be upon you.......
kingbradley6000 4 months ago
PEOPLE ALWAYS SAY THAT ISLAM TEACHES TO KILL...THATS OUTRAGEOUS! MOSES (PBUH) KILLED PHAROH AND DAVID (PBUH) KILLED GOLIETH...BOTH SLEW AND MURDERED IN THE NAME OF ALLAH. WHATS THE DIFFERENCE..LOL..PEOPLE ARE SUCH FOOLS AND MAKE EVERY ATTEMPT TO SLANDER ISLAM!
beatmonstaznyc 7 months ago
And in the morning, a long time before daylight, he got up and went out to a quiet place, and there he gave himself up to prayer. EXACTLY. JESUS PRAYER EARLY PRAYER DAILY THE WAY THE MUSLIMS PRAY--THE PRAYER JESUS PREFORM WAS CALLED FAJR PRAYER WICH MEANS EARLY MORNING PRAYER. MUSLIM RISE TO PRAYER LONG BEFORE THE SUN RISE
beatmonstaznyc 7 months ago
Everyone search... "How the bible led me to islam: a story of a former Christian youth minister - Joshua Evans" Great speach.
BlueMoon858 7 months ago
Go to "ten reasons why jesus is not god" the deen show here on youtube.
BlueMoon858 8 months ago
Jesus was a muslim prophet and he prayed exactly like the muslims. Infact all of the prophets before and after him were muslims and prayed the in same fassion praising the one same god (allah). The prayer jesus did before the early morning sunrise is called fajr, but before eating food he only thanked his creator allah he did not pray
BlueMoon858 8 months ago
@BlueMoon858 Christians get up early in the morning and prayer, and there were many ways the Jewish people of Jesus' day prayed.How does this mean he was Muslim? In fact, he was personal with God, calling him"FATHER"--he wasn't talking to a distant force like Muslims do. Jesus also made claims to deity, like saying that before Abraham was, I AM, something a mere prophet would NEVER say. I encourage you to openly look at the claims of Jesus and see he is the Son of God.
GodLovesUs100 8 months ago
@GodLovesUs100 Jesus was a prophet, he only had better mircles. Muslims believe in Jesus to be a prophet. God or Gods son cannot die, If Jesus goes on in a room with no food or drink then he would die. This little point proves he is not God or the son of God. Christians are staright confused, this is why in Christianity you are NOT suppose to ask questions in the first place. Muslims believe in the original bible. torah & injeel, but they all got changed by humans, quron is the last book of God
BlueMoon858 8 months ago
@BlueMoon858 The quran claims that allah has revealed the torah and gospel(injeel), so then my question to you is "how did they become corrupt"? You claimed they were changed, but if allah has revealed them, how can that be possible?Who can corrupt what is revealed by God? ....there is no proof to this Muslim theory of changing of the Bible, the Bible we read today is what they read back then, and Jesus claimed extraordinary things about himself no mere prophet would claim
GodLovesUs100 8 months ago
@GodLovesUs100 People changed the Biblle, torah and Gospel, when you read it you can tell very easily and also this is known to many Christian and Jewish scholers. People changed these books, but the Quron has bever ever been changed, letter for letter, word for word its still the same because Gods last prophet is Muhammad (seal of the prophets) and last book. This is why the quron will never ever change. Many enemies of Islam tried, but they failed throughout history. continued at P2...
BlueMoon858 7 months ago
@BlueMoon858 But the Quran says the gospel and Torah were revealed by Allah....how can man change what has been revealed by allah? This no muslim has been able to answer yet.And about your claims about corruption, you may claim it but history does not back you.In fact, the Bible shows to be have been amazingly preserved.We have thousands of manuscripts that confirm this truth.One example of this are the Dead Sea Scrolls which show us the same OT we read today is the one they read back then
GodLovesUs100 7 months ago
@GodLovesUs100 Because there were more prophets to come, Allah did not bless the Bible to remain the same. In fact, The bible, Torah and Gospel were only for the state of Isreal. Jesus was sent only for Isreal and the prophets before him. Muahmmad and the Quron is for the whole world and the last of his prophets and book and therefore God didnt want the Quron to be changed. Even more Muhammad was the ONLY propehtwho asked Allah of this favor. Quron is a bealiveable book and should be believed.
BlueMoon858 7 months ago
@BlueMoon858 Say: "O People of the Book! Ye have no ground to stand upon unless ye stand fast by the Torah. (sic) The Gospel, and all the revelation that has come to you from your Lord." (S.5, A.68).....by the time this was written, according to Muslims, the Bible had been changed.Yet here allah is telling them to hold fast to the Torah and Gospel!.......and again,historical findings show us the Bible has been preserved incredibly. But the most important truth is the gospel.
GodLovesUs100 7 months ago
@BlueMoon858 i'm going to send a message to you about this next issue that i believe seals the coffin that Islam is not true.
GodLovesUs100 7 months ago
@GodLovesUs100 P2.. The confusion in Christianity started when the people changed the words in the later testiments. This is because the bible was sent to many lands and they changed it according to their land law policies, then others tried to correct it and put their own mistakes etcc. The only way to know the true stories of the Bible, Torah, Gospel, is to look in the blessed Quron. The BIble, Torah, Gospel = Quron. Muhammad was mentioned in the Torah by name & hinted in the bible.
BlueMoon858 7 months ago
@BlueMoon858 No, he didn't.He prayed like no one had every prayed before.And you seem to be confused.Jesus was fully deity BUT TOOK ON HUMAN FLESH in order to be a substitute for humans.He was fully God but he also became fully man, and therefore, for a little while, faced human experiences(like hunger or being tired).This is not a result of his deity but of his humanity, he is the Son of God AND the Son of Man. both fully God and fully man.
GodLovesUs100 8 months ago
@BlueMoon858 you need to accept my friend request in order to conserve through messaging...but my message was "My question: how do Muslims believe people get to heaven?"
GodLovesUs100 7 months ago
@GodLovesUs100 People from prophet Issa's (Jesus's) generation should follow Jesus. Every human being should follow the prophets of their era. We are from Muhammads generation and should follow his teachings and Quron. However, it is not to say that we should forget the past prophets. Jesus is a very respected prophet in Islam, including Adam, Abraham, Jacob, Moses, and the rest which make up 124,000 prophets Allah had sent. According to the Quron onlly Jesus will return, but as a Muslim King!!
BlueMoon858 7 months ago
@BlueMoon858 the quran was written 600 years after Jesus' generation and yet it is commanded people to observe the teachings of the gospel AND the torah, which goes back even further, about 2000 years earlier in fact......anyways, did you accept my friend request?/
GodLovesUs100 7 months ago
@GodLovesUs100 If one converts to Islam, then he or she will in fact practice Christianity the way Christianity officially outa to be practiced. This is the way to paradise. However, Allah knows best, we are not to judge. The same angel ( Gabrial) that went to Virgin Mary and all the prophets also went to Muhammad. Jews call Muhammad a false prophet because he was not chosen by God to be from Isreal, but instead the Arab peninsula as it mentions in the Bible, a prophet like Moses.
BlueMoon858 7 months ago
@BlueMoon858 one is Christian when they are in Christ and show their faith by following his teachings which are in the Bible. The Bible is historical accurate my friend, we have thousands upon thousands of manuscripts to prove the NT has NOT been changed.It was written and preserved for us, and those are the true words of Jesus, even his claims to be God.and again, did you accept my friend request?
GodLovesUs100 7 months ago
@GodLovesUs100 youtube.com/watch?v=xJYvBJFb8CQ
sahelamine 5 months ago
@sahelamine okay it worked this time, thanks.
but just curious, what the reason for your sending?
GodLovesUs100 5 months ago
@GodLovesUs100 When people convert to Islam, it is because Allah made it easy for them to convert. Allah is the all seeing, all knowing, master of the day of judgement, king of mercy. Come to Islam, come to the truth. Dont make up your religion as you like it to be, but instead follow the commands of the original texts of the Bible, Torah, Gospel and the Quron which is the very word of God. Since the other 3 books changed, its better to only follow the Quron for less confusion, 4 ur convinience.
BlueMoon858 7 months ago
@GodLovesUs100 Only in later testiments when people changed and re wrote the Bible is when Jesus supposedly claimed he is the son of God or God. My friend, go research for yourself and please comprehend the Bible better and judge it for yourself and find the power to question yourself to use your wisdom God blessed you with. Dont follow a book that does not make any sense. The Quron in fact fixes your confusion regarding the Bible and Jesus being God or not. Infact since you --continue P3
BlueMoon858 7 months ago
@GodLovesUs100 Since you are familier with Christianity, now go read the Quron & question everything in the Bible & Quron. Dont follow what people raised you with, but what actually makes sense to you & where you feel more comfortable. If its Christianity then go with Christianity. However, as a Muslim I am suppose to invite you to the one & only true religion of God. Either way, I will always have respect for Christians and Jews alike. You guys still follow the Bible that we Muslims respect.
BlueMoon858 7 months ago
@BlueMoon858 i actually am familiar with Islamic beliefs since I almost converted to Islam at one time, but the Lord Jesus Christ found me out of my state of blindness and saved me! Praise be to him!
GodLovesUs100 7 months ago
@GodLovesUs100 @GodLovesUs100 did you see how jewish prays?
here it is: youtube.com/watch?v=xJYvBJFb8CQ&feature=player_embedded
Intelligence lead to the truth,
sahelamine 5 months ago
@sahelamine i cant see the video, i tried to copy and paste but it wouldnt let me.
GodLovesUs100 5 months ago
Let jesus fuck you mate. Watch my channel how to do it.
TheChurchOfLucifer 8 months ago
Its funny because jesus isn't real.
Kkrryyssttaall54 9 months ago
@Kkrryyssttaall54 Krystal?
what do you think BC means?
libbyandtai 8 months ago
@libbyandtai Before Christ lol ? I know what it means but I have no idea what point you're getting at here. If it has something to do with the video I wasn't about to watch some dumbshit rant about Jesus. You freaken dumbasses that believe in jesus/etc are just idiots. I mean seriously.. Just pure idiocy.
Kkrryyssttaall54 8 months ago
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Just fallow the teachings of Jesus Peace Be Upon Him and I am sure it will lead you to Islam.
sadikisfendiyaroglu 11 months ago
Just fallow the teachings of Jesus Peace Be Upon Him and I am sure it will lead you to Islam.
sadikisfendiyaroglu 11 months ago
Just fallow the teachings of Jesus Peace Be Upon Him and I am sure it will lead you to Islam.
sadikisfendiyaroglu 11 months ago
if jesus is god..why he did pray??
dsecrup15 11 months ago
@dsecrup15 God Exists in 3 persons. The Father, The Son and the Spirit. Jesus is our example, The Son, prayed to the Father. As We should Pray to God the Father.
HeavenBound2323 11 months ago
The man in the video didn’t explain how Jesus prayed. He prostrated and prayed with his head on the floor i.e. like Muslim or orthodox Jews (watch?v=0aHWASyMjwg) and that is how Christians are supposed to pray. There is not one statement in the bible were Jesus say worship me and the Holy Ghost and to dance and sing and go church on Sundays get a tree into the house for Christmas. Christianity got hijacked by roman pagans.
REALDAWAH 11 months ago
Did Jesus ever tell people to worship him or the holy ghost?
REALDAWAH 11 months ago
It really annoys me when my dad prays the exact same prayer over the food since i can remember! im 16 years old! here's how it goes. "thank you jesus for this food. thank you for blessing it to our bodies. In jesus name, amen."
mastercheef12345 1 year ago
jesus (pbuh) prayed the way muslims do.
And he (Jesus) went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed..."-(MATTHEW 26:39).
"And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship..."-(JOSHUA 5:14).
"And he (Elijah) cast himself down upon the earth, and put his face between his knees."-(1 KINGS 18:42).
"And they (Moses and Aaron) fell upon their faces..."-(NUMBERS 20:6).
"And Abraham fell on his face..."-(GENESIS 17:3).
AMEEN! BROTHER! salamu alaykum
superflynapoleon 1 year ago
haha really funny that this preacher have, what it looks like, a illuminati sign on his necklace! But anyhow, blessings brothers in christ:D
Benji4231 1 year ago
The pastor mentions more about how he prays than how Jesus did. How about the fact that he prostrated to HIS Lord?
hikmah 1 year ago
to whom jesus prayed for?
anonymous7188 1 year ago
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christians do not see that they have fallen into the trap of idolatry. no wonder when they do not even read the Bible except for the parts they use for propagation.
massrerdean 1 year ago
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pakifighter 1 year ago
When you pray, who do you pray to?, GOD or JESUS??? Does God get mad if you pray to Jesus?
bacteriasnipper 1 year ago
Im wondering why he is wearing a pyramid im not saying he is bad im just wondering why he wears that pyramid.
myeternaldestiny209 1 year ago
You people are all mislead satan is the one who will lead the strong to power
SATANWILLSAVEUS1 1 year ago
@SATANWILLSAVEUS1 the bible says that if Satan had known what would happen after Jesus death- he never would have crucified the Lord- he knows he's defeated, he just doesn't want you to know that. He is the father of lies. He'll even lie to you to
to get you in the same place where he is going. He hates you with a passion and will do anything to get you to think your his right hand man.
dapawa 1 year ago
we muslim prayer like our Prophet (jesus/Muhhamad) .... we prayer 5 times a day ....early in the morning , not like modern christian singing & dancing like crazy .... the Coptik christian in Egypt still pray like jesus do....
aldomovielovers 1 year ago
PRAISE JESUS! HALLELUJAH!
XSDarkMoonZX 1 year ago
Jesus sounds like a he was a Muslim. He prayed early in the morning, (in Islam its called Fajr Prayer). Jesus prayed daily (in Islam this is the most important part of the religion, the remembrance of God). Jesus fasted, abstaining from food for the sake of obedience to his lord, (in Islam this is called the month of Ramadan). Jesus also prayed how Muslims pray, in Matthew 26:39 it says "he fell with his face to the ground and prayed". Also if Jesus was God who was he pray to?
moali68 1 year ago 2
@moali68 he was praying to "supergod". Just like when he was allegedly nailed to the cross and shouted out " Lord Lord why has thou forsaken me". Supergod.
pakifighter 1 year ago
Jesus is the messenger of god people he prayed bowing to god and fore head on the ground Jesus never says he is god worship me at that time god was known as father so people assumed his the son of god read the bible carefully Jesus did not say worship mr never
junel007 1 year ago
whats this? stand up comedy?
wantobabettermuslim 1 year ago
i want to know how to pray to god...not comedy!! maybe the devil is better??
Miiiitch88 2 years ago
jesus (PBUH) was a muslim!!
the one he prayed to was ALLAH!!
i dont now why do christians think that jesus (PBUH) is god??
hammi1286 2 years ago
Jesus is not a muslim, Jesus is God.. Mohamad is a false prophet who got his teachings from satan or one of his demons
dooVoob 1 year ago
@dooVoob OK, then why dont you prove it to me that jesus (PBUH) is god!?
hammi1286 1 year ago
Jesus is not provable by other people. If you pray to Him, He will reveal Himself to you and then you will have your proof. He reveals Himself to those who seek Him with a pure and humble spirit.
Islam is a false religion.
dooVoob 1 year ago
@dooVoob the moment to see that jesus is not provale, that means that he is not god. second thing is that if jesus jesus was god then how could he worship god?
i know that in your bible it says somewhere that jesus used to pray to god. if jesus was god then how could he pray to himeself???
hammi1286 1 year ago
Jesus is divine, He is the son of God but He is one with the Father through the Holy Spirit. When Jesus took human form, He stripped Himself of His divine status and became a servant to the father, praying to Him.
He was not praying to Himself, He was praying to the Father. When we pray to God, the Holy Spirit of Jesus and the Father comes and dwells in us which transform into the children of God.
dooVoob 1 year ago
@dooVoob @dooVoob Muslim means a person who submit to the will of God, so if he (Jesus aka Isoh or Isa in arabic) submits to the will of God then tt makes him a Muslim. Jesus (pbuh) cannot be God cause he never claimed Divinity, Muhammad (pbuh) is a prophet, the Bible tells u to give the test for the false prophet...*.(1 John 4:1-3 NIV).* - Hence Muhammad did proclaim Jesus is from the Spirit of God, he too claim tt Jesus the Son of Mary is the Messiah. Anymore questions? =)
InocentBystandr 1 year ago
@InocentBystandr You are wrong but entitled to your beliefs. Jesus claimed He is ONE WITH THE FATHER.. He is the Messiah and the SON OF GOD at the same time..
He is Lord and He will be the one to judge the living and the dead..
I know what muslim means being from lebanese origine and speak arabic.
Take care my friend..
dooVoob 1 year ago
1. He prayed early in the morning -> Fajr
2. He prayed daily like we muslims
3. He prayed over his food -> we say evertime "bismillah" before we eat and drink, we eat and drink with the right hand
4. Isa was Muslim!
suemer11 2 years ago 2
Matthew 26:39 And he went a little farther, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.
How anyone fall on his face and pray?
He prayed same as muslim pray by prostrating before ALLAH.
He prayed to almighty ALLAH.
He cried out loudly on the cross
ELI ELI LAMA SABACHTANI
(ALLAH ALLAH why have you forsaken me).
He did not want to die.
He was the mighty messenger of ALLAH.
rraashidd 2 years ago
chrisatians are fake ass holes. they need to first put cloths on and stop walking around in G strings. pork faced fucks.
gosillygirl 2 years ago
what's a chrisatian?
rocyoungunna 2 years ago
I think gossillygirl is a chrisatian
dooVoob 1 year ago
@rocyoungunna A Christian is a person who believes Jesus Christ died to save their soul from eternal separation from God the Father. He believes Jesus died, was buried, and was resurrected from the dead 3 days later, paying the debt of the sin that we owed, but could not pay. Christians believe Jesus is God, and that the Bible is 100% the message of God. They are supposed to live as Jesus did, but sadly, most aren't.
djking2d 1 year ago
a perfect example of the Islamic potrayal of Kafir, which English christians would inevitably translate as 'infidel'.... but Kafir actually means 'covered up'.. see how close they are to the original teachings of Jesus (and Islam), but covered them up with fictions and myths.... and ultimately deviated...
sayedurrchy 2 years ago
before jesus pray, he did ablution, that's how muslims do before praying, cleansing ur ownself before god.
upfran 2 years ago
"God let this food nourish our bodies" is a very valid prayer. Doctors know that food can harm your body too, despite the fact that it may taste very good. e.g. food may be rich in cholesterol and block your arteries and if eaten a lot give you a heart attack . thats why i pray to allah before every meal to please save me from the evils of this food that i am eating though it may taste very good to me
khushiawan1 2 years ago
if Jesus is God..Who is he praying to?
LittoMoon 2 years ago 31
The Father.
jway242003 2 years ago
Just an example of how confused Christians are. You guys say, the father, the son and the holy ghost are one, so he can't pray to himself. Secondly, why doesn't he ever pray to the holy ghost. Well its obvious to everyone except the brainwashed Christians. Jesus was not god, he was praying to the creator. He never prayed to the holy ghost either as the holy ghost is not the creator. You guys got too influenced by the romens, they use to belief in men-gods and thus you have the trinity.
fundamentalistish 2 years ago
@LittoMoon, Jesus is the son of God.
jack23620 1 year ago
@LittoMoon - Jesus is not the Father, he is the Son. God became a man, he was 100% man.... 100% God.... he still had to pray to the Father. God the Son was in Flesh, God the Father was in heaven. ONE GOD, 3 PERSONS
810suited 1 year ago
He is praying to God the father who is God just as Jesus and the Holy Spirit are.
My wife and I are two that have become one flesh... we exist in one family, with one purpose.
We are ONE together as God is ONE in three persons!!!!! Its like a Dad, Mom, and Son they are ONE Family that lives in fellowship and community.
nels7118 1 year ago
@LittoMoon Jesus is the Son. He prayed to the Father.
djking2d 1 year ago
@LittoMoon Jesus is God the Son (the second person of the trinity) and he is praying to God the Father (the first person of the trinity).
HDell1994 1 year ago
@HDell1994 3 persons can never be one person. The trinity was fabricated in year 325 - 385. The "Dead Scrolls", the oldest biblical writings confirms that.
pakifighter 1 year ago
@pakifighter I know 3 people can't be one person, that's not what the Trinity is at all. They are three people but one God. I thank you for your attempt to help me but I'm quite sure that the Trinity is Biblical. Thank you.
HDell1994 1 year ago
@HDell1994 Read what I wrote again. The oldest biblical scrolls " The Dead Scrolls " confirms that there was no trinity in the bible before the Nicea conventions. It was there the romans put the trinity in the bible. So if you know its fabricated, why do you believe in it ? And do you know that Jesus Christ isnt his name ?
pakifighter 1 year ago
@pakifighter The dead sea scrolls are not holy writ- show me in the bible the scriptures that there is no trinity.
dapawa 1 year ago
@dapawa Let me appeal to your logic. Dead scrolls = oldest biblical writings, copies of the hebrew bible. Closer to the source = more authentic.
Now, the RSV, revised Standard Version, of the bible from 1952 is based on these scrolls. They threw out the trinity, they threw out the "begotten son of God", they threw out the main concept of modern christianity because it was fabricated. Now, if your logic tells you, that the closer to the source, the faker they are, then I cant help you.
pakifighter 1 year ago
@pakifighter That still does not answer my question at all. show me in the bible where there is no trinity. Gods thoughts are not your thoughts and his ways are not your ways. Gods ways defy logic.
dapawa 1 year ago
@dapawa Thats what Im telling you. Your bible is of questionable authenticity. When a book has been changed so many times that it isnt in its original form, it loses its credibility. The roman church made todays bible, which has been again changed numerious times by man. The original word isnt there. How can someone believe in such a book ? Its just like if I rewrote Lords of the rings, changed the plot, changed the name of the characters, changed it beginning to end and served it to you.
pakifighter 1 year ago
@dapawa In the bible, God contradicts himself. If you read the bible, it actually say that the biblical god is satan. But thats the problem with christians. You twist the words so it can suit you. You are inviting trouble. Im asking you, what is it in the bible that makes you stick to it, that is logical ?
pakifighter 1 year ago
@pakifighter
Where ok show me this verse where is says The Biblical God is Satan ?
SupernaturalGifts777 1 year ago
@SupernaturalGifts777 1 Chronicles 21:1 - Satan rose up against Israel and caused David to take a census of the people of Israel.
2 Samuel 24:1 - Once again the anger of the LORD burned against Israel, and he caused David to harm them by taking a census. "Go and count the people of Israel and Judah," the LORD told him.
In one verse Satan tells him, in the other God tells him. Meaning its the same person. It is not God who allows Satan to provoce him. But God is telling David himself, so is Satan
pakifighter 1 year ago
@SupernaturalGifts777 Preachers and christians often says " no, its God who is allowing Satan to incite David. " But the verses are clear, Satan TELLS David in one verse, and God TELLS David in another verse. Nowhere is it written that God allows Satan to tell David. Both verses clearly tells you who is saying what to whom. So God = Satan. You can try to explain whatever you want, but it is written so clearly that it cant be misunderstood, or explained othervise.
pakifighter 1 year ago
@pakifighter
Yes you are so Correct
SupernaturalGifts777 1 year ago
@HDell1994 The concept of Trinitarianism came about 300 years after Jesus' passing at the Council of Nicaea. So, 300 yrs after Jesus some people thought "Hey, let us alter the bible.". Jesus never preached trinity. The letters written by the followers of Jesus also contradicts the modern bible : watch?v=wDrObm8aotM
The knowledge is out there, you just have to look with an open mind my brother. May peace be upon you.
pakifighter 1 year ago
@pakifighter Everyone knows it all nowadays... Thank you for this "knowledge."
HDell1994 1 year ago
@HDell1994 Are you holding on to your faith just because ou are afraid that you might be wrong ?
pakifighter 1 year ago
@LittoMoon Jesus is in God's image.....so Jesus its actually praying to his father.
gotens24 1 year ago
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@LittoMoon
Jesus is not God he is the son of God,
SupernaturalGifts777 1 year ago
@LittoMoon To god almighty, there is only one god and jesus was a SON OF GOD, his spirit, he was also SON OF MAN in the flesh. Just like us, the Christ Jesus is different than Jesus the Christ, the point is to be filled with gods grace and become christ like. Just as Jesus was which made him the christ.
theuppro 1 year ago
@LittoMoon
Jesus is God in human flesh. God is outside time matter and space, and Jesus is inside time matter and space. But he is one and the same. God had to become human so people can relate to him and to show that he is holy and without sin. Basically thought people how to pray but most importantly he came do die for our sins so we get a chance at eternal life. Either way right and wrong is inside everyone; so we are without excuse. Use common sense. Intelligence only creates intelligence.
Michaeltanase 1 year ago
@Michaeltanase
Jesus may be god to you but Jesus is not the creator , it is unnecessary for the creator to come in human form...the creator did not die for our sins...the creator just is and always be. your god might be a male but the creator is not a he/she the creator just is ...:) peace be with you
missionaryoffaith 1 year ago
@missionaryoffaith
Well to start answering one of the dumbest questions yet. If you read the bible and believe than YES JESUS is the ONLY way and YES he is God. And what do you want him to come to earth back in those days? As a female? Back then nobody would listen to a female, God created male first and intends to use his knowledge for the best. So God is not male he just turned human, and chose male because it JUST MADE SENSE. Peace brother!
Michaeltanase 1 year ago
@Michaeltanase it is not about f/m i guess you read that wrong I am saying the creator did not come in HUMAN form, nothing to do with f/m ...human form...not a dumb question...? daaaaaaaa the creator is not f/m ever not even on earth it is just a belief system you live in like living inside a box and never seeing beyond
missionaryoffaith 1 year ago
@Michaeltanase YOU ARE WRONG GOD IS MALE
topshotter001 1 year ago
@topshotter001 God is God unlike his creation. He is nor male or female he is the most high the most beautiful.
REALDAWAH 11 months ago
@LittoMoon the father
masternate61 1 year ago
@LittoMoon The Flying Spaghetti Monster. =/
nctrls2 1 year ago
@LittoMoon to His Father. :-)
Guntis77 1 year ago
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@LittoMoon to His Father. :-)
Guntis77 1 year ago
@LittoMoon
Jesus is God in human form. All the power was still his but he had to follow the same rules as humans. Only then can he show that he was like God. Yet his prayers was directed at God the way we pray to him. Therefore; the same laws of nature that apply to time, matter, and space; I would argue, does not apply outside time matter and space. If you are time matter and space and everything outside that is unknown to humans. Therefore; one hundred percent of the people believe but Jesus
Michaeltanase 1 year ago
@LittoMoon hes god in flesh but he still prays to GOD the Father,who is the head of the trinity,Jesus was sent to do God the fathers will.:)
andymcq2509 1 year ago
@LittoMoon Jesus is the son of God. But also the son of man. Its part of the Holy Trinity which is Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. Therfor , Jesus was part God, part Man.
VASINGER 1 year ago
@LittoMoon Wow, you know no Christian has ever thought of this before. I think I'd better become Islamic.
AlveusLacuna 1 year ago
@LittoMoon We believe God is one made up of three. For instance for laptop to be complete you need the screen the wires the buttons etcetc. Jesus is Lord but Prays to the Lord as God took form of man to be a direct guide but gave himself man limitations until he needed supernatural powers such as healing and walkin on water.
FoundersClickMusic 11 months ago
@FoundersClickMusic Why all this jibberjapper? :p This is just another contradiction where there is one god in one place and three in another. Your explaination is also flawed as god supposedly existed before jesus was born, and therefore one should think that god should be able to exist without jesus.
This whole "three in one" thing isn't even in the bible, it's just theologians making excuses :p
phpeni 11 months ago
@phpeni I see why you wud think that but God existed before Jesus but when he made Jesus he took form of him in the flesh as Lord but still stayed God in heaven. He gave himself man limitations. And actually it does exist in the Bible. It does not say "God is three" because God is one made up of three. The Holy spirit. Jesus. And God himself are all in the Bible.
FoundersClickMusic 11 months ago
@FoundersClickMusic Let's just take a couple of examples. They are seperate in matt 12,31 they are the same in john 10,30 they are seperate again in 1. corin 2,11 :p If the bible is holy shouldn't it be consistent?
Back to the original question, why would jesus pray to god if they are the same (john 10 30)?. Either john is wrong (and thereby making all cristians go to hell for praying to anther god :p) or matthew is wrong. Which one is it, they can't go together.
phpeni 11 months ago
@phpeni About you saying they are seperate. You are right. But i did not phrase what i said correctly. God is not 3 in one he is one in 3. Yes there are seperate but they all make up the kingdom. While in the old testament it was God and the Holy spirit that made the kindgom. Its like this. Jesus prayed to God as our example but God put himself in Jesus. Jesus wouldnt have been as holy as he was if God didnt put himself in Jesus with certain man limitations such as prayer. He was our example.
FoundersClickMusic 11 months ago
@FoundersClickMusic Let's end this 3 in 1, 1 in 3 thing. It is common sence that 3 is 3 and 1 is 1. 3 can't be 1 and vice versa. Are you saying that god, jesus and the holy spirit are seperate enteties but they rule together?
If so, that would make christianity a polytheistic religion, which I think make most sence according to the new testament, but I don't think you find alot of christians who would agree with you on that :p
phpeni 11 months ago
@phpeni Yeah God is 1 in three and it is possible when it come to God and really? well look on other comments on this vid and then tell me if other Christians do not agree ;)
FoundersClickMusic 11 months ago
@FoundersClickMusic You can't be 3 and 1 at the same time I can't see why you can't accept that. The only reason this "3 in 1" thing was made up, is because christianity has to be a monotheistic religion if it has to be consistent with the old testament.
Lets try to break it down, even if I made a perfect clone of myself, me and it wouldn't be the same because we would be able to act on our own, seperate from eachother. So there is 2 you see, not 2 in 1.
phpeni 11 months ago
@phpeni Thats the thing.We aint talking clones. We talkin God in which anything is possible.If God is the creator how cant he put himself in 3? and yeah you wud both act differently but thats why Jesus was our example. Yeah you wouldact differently in character. But im talking about spirit. See i used to question aswell. Till i become a Christian 7 months ago. I will be praying for you.
FoundersClickMusic 11 months ago
@FoundersClickMusic It can't be done no matter who you are, you can't be 3 and 1 at the same time, I've made that very clear and you have agreed that they are seperate. The 3 in 1 argument is a very common cristian apolegetic and it doesn't hold water.
God can't do everything eventhough the bible says so. For example: Can god create a stone that's so heavy he himself cannot lift it?
So you see anything is NOT possible, even for gods ;)
phpeni 11 months ago
@phpeni Clever. But his power has no limits and your talking gods. But im talking God. God bless you bro
FoundersClickMusic 11 months ago
@FoundersClickMusic I don't think we'll come to an agreement on this one so lets agree to disagree. If you ever manage to draw a onesided triangle I would love if you would pm it to me :D
Cya m8, nice talking with you.
phpeni 11 months ago
@phpeni In regards to 3 in 1, lets take the example of time. Time is made up of past, present, and future, yet it is still one thing, time. They are 3 separate parts, yet still 1.
In regards to your next argument of God not being all-powerful. God cannot do everything. For example, God cannot sin, or make a square circle. He cannot do things that are against His character or against His nature. However, He can do all things within His nature and character.
davemwyman 11 months ago
@davemwyman Great example, but you can't really say that time is a thing. Lets look at time as a ruler. We split the ruler into three pieces of different lenght. Now, if we apply this analogy to the trinity it's like saying that any piece of the ruler has the same lenght as the entire ruler itself, which is false.
I'm glad you agree that god can't do anything, if we stay in the realm of geometry we can look at the trinity as a triangle where each side is the triangle. Can god draw this?
phpeni 11 months ago
@phpeni You are right that time is not a 'thing', but rather it is a concept.The analogies made demonstrate a lack of understanding of the trinity.The three 'persons' of the trinity are co-eternal,co-equal,co-powerful and if any one of them were removed,there would be no God.The example of the triangle would actually look like this:The Father,Son,and Holy Spirit each represent a side of a triangle with equal sides.If any side of the triangle is removed, it is no longer a triangle at all.
davemwyman 11 months ago
@davemwyman I think my analogies a spot on, you may want to check out verses such as John 10:30, Acts 5:3,4, Mk. 12:29, 1 Cor. 8:4 and Isa. 45:22. There are not 3 there are 1 (actually there is 3, that's the whole point, you even said it yourself, but the problem is that it makes christianity into a polytheistic religion and therefore not consistent with the old testament).
Your version of the trinity is not found in the bible, and jesus was actually dead(removed) for 3 days...
phpeni 11 months ago
@phpeni The trinity can be hard to grasp, I understand, but thank you for using verses from the Bible to confirm that God is one being in three persons. Here are some Old Testament verses of the trinity: Gen 1:26, Gen 3:22,Gen 11:7,Psalm 45:6-7 (q. Heb 1:8),Isa 6:8,Isa 48:6. Using the Bible will only result in a trinity.
Ex: Past, present, and future represent time. When talking about the past we are talking about time, when talking about the present we are still talking about time..
davemwyman 11 months ago
@davemwyman The verses you've shown are actually used by people who are against the trinity :p If there are more gods as in "we" and "us" the trinity fails. Christian apolegetics explain these verses as god speaking in plural because he is seen as king. If you've ever heard a monarch speak you'll notice that they refer to themself in plural as well. This is also common in hebrew.
You've already presented the time argument once and I showed you it was flawed, go back and read again.
phpeni 11 months ago
@phpeni The refutation of the example of time demonstrated a lack of understanding of the trinity and applying it would be a false analogy. Using verses in the Bible to refute the trinity is simply to ignore what the Bible actually says. The Old Testament kings never actually spoke royal plural. Here are some more verses: John 1:1-3, Gen 1:2. Nevertheless, nothing ever comes from youtube commenting, so I encourage you to continue to read the Bible in order to grasp the concept of the trinity.
davemwyman 11 months ago
@davemwyman Try reading the wiki on majestic plural, there is a part about this.
The way the trinity should be understood is 1+1+1=1 (wiki trinity) which as you can see is impossible.
You explain it as 1/3+1/3+1/3=1, this makes sence, but turns christianity into a polytheistic religion.
Either way it is a massive selfcontradiction in some of the most important doctrine, which questions the credibility of the entire religion
phpeni 11 months ago
@phpeni just to say something about this, you're already assuming the 1's are the same thing. The trinity is not one being+one being+one being=one being. It is one distinct PERSON(different than being)+ one distinct person+ once distinct person= ONE BEING that is, God.
GodLovesUs100 8 months ago
@GodLovesUs100 It's really hard to debate this issue with cristians because you all have your own definisions. What do you mean by a being? Why aren't persons beings? Is the holy spirit a person?
You don't really get anywhere trying defending this, christian theologians has given up on this issue centuries ago, it's simply a logical contradiction that emerged because the text of the NT was mixed with the OT before becoming a religion of the roman empire.
phpeni 8 months ago
@LittoMoon God exists in 3 Persons. So Jesus the Son, was praying to the God the Father. Jesus came to earth to be an example, So He prayed to the Father as we should.
HeavenBound2323 11 months ago
muslims prayed like jesus because the torah was out way before the quran came in to play
gboogie1000 2 years ago 15
@gboogie1000 the man in the video didn’t explain how Jesus prayed. He prostrated and prayed with his head on the floor i.e. like Muslim or orthodox Jews (watch?v=0aHWASyMjwg) and that is how Christians are supposed to pray. There is not one statement in the bible were Jesus say worship me and the Holy Ghost and to dance and sing and go church on Sundays get a tree into the house for Christmas. Christianity got hijacked by roman pagans.
REALDAWAH 11 months ago
This was interesting. He just described the rituals of a practicing muslim. Alhamdulilah, 5 times a day,taking time,withdraw from the crowd,and speak to your creator.
versaflex 2 years ago
Christians claim, Jesus = God. And yet Jesus prayed to God. Thus, Jesus prayed to himself. Which does not make any sense. I'm sorry Christians but Jesus peace be upon him was only a messenger sent by God to the Children of Israel. The purpose was to maintain the message of monotheism and to reinforce God's laws to the Children of Israel during that time. Simple.
BabaRizwan 2 years ago 4
Jesus warned:'' Many will say to me on that day ( Day of resurrection) , Lord Lord did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles? And then I will declare to them, I never knew you; Depart from me, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS" Matthew 7:22
filsabillilah 2 years ago 2
i can give you answers from the bible refuting your claim
massrerdean 2 years ago 2
this is so apsurd. christians believe that Jesus is god but they speak about Jesus praying several times a day- how can ''god'' pray?! they answer like, he is our example and teaching us to do so... bla bla... that is the role of prophet on of God. God sends prophets to be examples and to teach people how to be on right path. on my YT account i have only one video go watch for more about this christian cover up. christians! Wake up! you do not follow Jesus but Paul who oltered the message of J.
massrerdean 2 years ago 2