@maryam88x The issue for us is not stunning, it is the dedication to Allah said over the animal by the Muslim slaughterman. That is because some Islamic bodies allow stunning if the animal can be shown to be capable of revival if not killed in the meantime. How they argue that an animal having the equivalent of an epileptic fit is alive AND healthy is beyond me, but it is done to satisfy animal welfare demands. Traditionally, halal meat was never stunned before slaughter, you are right.
The bible has been tampered with from it's original form. Rewitten by man, many whom may have had dark intentions. It cannot be verified, but you can be sure there is much misinterpretation, or lack of word for word.
@M1LAD81 The Quran says, Sura 3:3. It is He Who sent down to thee (step by step), in truth, the Book, confirming what went before it; and He sent down the Law (of Moses) and the Gospel (of Jesus) before this, as a guide to mankind, and He sent down the criterion (of judgment between right and wrong).
So as Allah in the Quran approves the Bible, as it stood when Mohammed wrote that down in the 7th Century AD, who tampered with it afterwards, and how?
Thanks for raising this as an issue christianvoice, from an atheist (cultural C of E christian). You're right, atheists are as keen as christians to know what is actually halal.
@YoungHecttick No. All slaughtering in the UK for human consumption is done the same way, the throat of the animal is cut to allow all the blood to drain out. It is the dedication to Allah (the Bismillah) that makes it halal. Without the dedication to Allah it is haram.
This is where allah wants you to slowly slit the animal throat without first stunning the poor unfortunate animal, where the animal slowly bleeds to death in excruciating agony
This is the filth that the muslims serve in their resturants and pizza shops
Where are the liberal do gooders who compaigned against "cruel" fox hunting
@halalisevilll I'm sorry, but in halal slaughtering, kosher slaughtering or any slaughtering, the animal's throat is cut by a very sharp knife very quickly and it bleeds to death in seconds. The issue here is creeping Islamification, keeping consumers in the dark about meat dedicated to Allah by having a Muslim incantation said over it. The argument about stunning before slaughter is a separate argument.
@dives005 It was Waitrose who let the cat out of the bag. They slaughter halal not so Muslims will buy the ordinary meat in their supermarket (cause as soon as it is touched by an infidel it is haram) but so they can sell the offal, which the white folks aren't that keen on, into the halal export market. As the Meerkat says in the advert: 'Simples'.
the claims made by this presenter dont make sense, people who eat meat most of them in this british population dont care how the animal was killed aslong as no health risk so why would the majority care if it was subject to ritual/religious slaughter? the reason why supermarkets label it because there is a market (small one) for halal/kosher and its business to sell what your customers want, dumb argument presented. propaganda to cause alarm usual garbage.
@kisamakara We don't want Sharia by the back door, we don't want creeping Islamification, we don't want a Mohammedan wail to a dodgy deity screamed over our meat and we want proper labelling so we know what we are buying. Not much to ask in a Christian country, is it?
I myself am a pagan, how ever I do not think that a meat that has been prepared for a certain religion should just be sold with out being labels, christian might find this very distressing as well as jewish people , Jewish friendly food always have Kosha (!) on the labels, so why can't hala meat to then people can make there own minds up, also because of the "animal welfare" side of killing for halal meat alot of people wouldn't want to by it never mind there personal beliefs.
@christianvoiceuk The only difference in the way Kosher and Halal are slaughtered is what is said over it, the method of killing is exactly the same.
Also, there's nothing Pagan about Islam. Allahu Akbar simply means God is Great, Islam and Christianity follow the same one God by the way and both believe in Jesus (Peace be upon Him), therefore if you're saying Islam is Pagan you're also saying Christianity is Pagan.
@ThouShaltNotDefy No, you are wrong again. Kosher meat is always killed without stunning and without a prayer to Allah (obviously). Halal meat may be pre-stunned or it may not according to which Islamic authority certifies it. And the Allahu Akbar said over it means 'Allah is Greater' (than other gods or God). The God whom Christians worship said to Jesus 'This is my beloved Son'. Allah denies having a son. So our God is not the same being as your Allah. Duh.
@christianvoiceuk - ignorance, pure ignorance - If you study Islam to any extent you will realize it confirms and establishes the belief in one true God, the creator of every thing. It is your Christian doctrine that is in question. Jesus was not God but chosen by God. whats left of the message of Jesus in the bible today clearly shows he was not God.
@kaz1i Clearly you need to read the Bible. Email me your address and we'll post you a copy. Or search for our 'repentuk' website click on 'The Bible' and you can download Bible Student for free.
@christianvoiceuki thaught halal and kosher were the exact opposite? i.e Kosher meaning kill quicky without pain??? i am sikh and halal meat is gross!!!!
The god of Abraham (Peace be upon him) is the same as the god of Moses (pbuh) is the same god as Jesus (pbuh) is the same god as Mohammad (pbuh). Muslims do not worship any creation ie Moon, sun, idols. Muslims worship one god. The Muslim view on Jesus (PBUH) is that he was born without a father by Mary (PBUH).He was a prophet of god, he was not crucified but rather he was raised to the heaven and will return to fight the Anti-christ. All Abrahamic faiths preach the same thing...
@Sujee21 Another good exposition of why Allah is not the same as Almighty God. The God of the Bible commended his beloved Son, the god of the Koran denies having a son. He is too posh for that. But God humbled himself and became one of us, died on the cross that we might be forgiven and then ascended back into heaven. The Koran denies all of that as well. So the Abrahamic faiths (if that can include Islam, which we strongly doubt) do not 'preach the same thing' at all!
@christianvoiceuk I have one question which i hope you can clarify, So the quraan is 1400 years old, each and every copy in the world is the same, people have memorised the entire book all 6000+ verses, i am fortunate to have memorised it as well. Now the bible, can you say the same ? Muslims believe in the original bible, however that does not exist today. Could you please quote me verses wherein Jesus himself proclaimed to be god ?
@Sujee21 The funny thing is, the Greek Septuagint dates from 300-150BC and the Dead Sea Scrolls confirm the Hebrew Masoretic text of the Old Testament. The New Testament was written in the 1st century and accepted by the 3rd century AD. So the Bible was settled way before the birth of Mohammed. So when Mohammed told Muslims to follow the Law (OT) and the Gospel (NT) in Sura 3:3, he was talking about the Bible as it was then and is now.
@Sujee21 Jesus proclaimed himself to be God every time he referred to himself as 'I Am' as in: John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. Also when Jesus referred to himself as 'the Son of Man' - a reference to Daniel 7:13. Not enough space here but go to the Christian Voice website, click on 'Bible Articles' and you will find an article 'WHO IS THIS SON OF MAN?'
which was first published in Christian Voice in November 2010. Have a read.
@Sujee21 That is the deception. Please tell me why the muslims are the only religion that directly conflicts with another for holy spots? The muslims have been trying to take isreal forever.. That is not their land, it is the land of the jews. I came onto this video after reading a verse in revelations of the holy bible KJV Revelations 2:20 Read it.
I am an atheist but also a cultural Christian and I fully support you, I just hope (perhaps naively) that you are doing it for the welfare of the animals first, and Christianity second, as this would be far more noble.
@Areopagitican Sorry to disappoint you! There is no welfare issue with pre-stunned halal slaughter; our campaign is all about resisting creeping Islamification and dishonesty in the retail trade.
I agree with you in the fact that halal meat should be CLEARLY labelled as halal, but I as to Christianity, can you really trust everything in the bible as true? It has been translated from Aramaic to Greek to Latin and more with (I expect) many changes over time. Also, many christian theologians have thought that some parts of the bible are meant figuratively by god not literally, for example Jesus being the son of god is the same as every one of us being sons and daughters of god. After all
@theyoungoutsider Thank you for your support. Yes we can trust everything in the Bible. The Hebrew Old Testament (the Masoretic Text) was settled over two millennia ago and the Greek New Testament (the Textus Receptus) was agreed upon by the church very early. All the NT writers were eye-witnesses of the ministry of Jesus. These two texts (without any Latin!) were the basis of the King James Version of the Bible. The divinty of Jesus is easily confirmed in all the scriptures.
O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God.Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth.
@Birdgull1 Perfect exposition of why Allah is not the same as Almighty God. The God of the Bible commended his beloved Son, the god of the Koran denies having a son. He is too posh for that. But God humbled himself and became one of us, died on the cross that we might be forgiven and then ascended back into heaven. That is how much Almighty God cares. How much does Allah care about mankind? Not a whistle.
@petepedant the way you talk is funny. first of all stop talking about my country precious 'TURKEY' and stop changing the conversation. This is a convo about halal meat not about turkish history, come to yourself and get your facts right. Go get some history books from Waterstones and then come and have a debate with me. Funny now eh?
@christianvoiceuk yes i am looking at the muslim people all around the world. You no what will happen if i report you to the police? you will go in to jail because of being racist. NOT ONLY MUSLIM PEOPLE EAT HALAL. READ THE BIBLE BEFORE YOU COME AND START CHATTING CRAP. delete this video now!
@melisacik1 Unlike Muslim countries, we have (a measure of) freedom of speech in this country. I've read the Bible, thanks! There is a difference between a religion and a race. Race you are born with, religion you can change. Except of course if you are a Muslim, where the penalty for renouncing Islam is death.
Am sure u have accidentally ate Hallal and u r still alive then shut ur mouth. U blaming muslim it supermarket fault. Am sure u pretent to be a muslim to get information. By the way whenever any british is going on holiday in any middle east country for holiday like dudai or even morroco what u think u gona eat there? what silly video.
@nasrineable Good point. Avoid holidays anywhere Muslim. And don't fly Emirates, Qatar or any other Muslim airline. I'll never forget on an Emirates flight (the last I'll ever take - didn't know at the time) the slices of halal turkey painted with red stripes to look like bacon!
Im a turkish muslim and this is being racist! muslim people do not go around hating on christians so why are they? apparently we are chatting crap about the bible etc etc. racist british people are trying to get rid of muslim people, wake up! first they were doing it to black people and now to the muslims. whose next? jewish people? are these people going to be the 'BRITISH NAZIS' ?
@melisacik1 Just out of interest, are you Turks going to own up to the Armenian genicide of over 1.5 million any time soon? Coincidentally, Turkey also happens to consist of between 96 -99% muslim. Just like a ratchet the % muslims in islamic countries only ever goes one way. funny that eh?
@RAGSTAluvsDA90z No, Stunned animals are still bled out just the same. The halal meat secretly on sale on supermarket shelves is stunned before slaughter, when the Shahada is said over it dedicating it to Allah just before the knife goes in. I don't know how the Halal Food Authority can say that an animal having an epileptic fit is healthy but they do it so their meat can be halal and not upset the animal welfare lobby.
What i dont understand is Muslims from abroad, from countries with the Sharia laws over in saudi arabia for instance, whe women are not allowed to drive, you get your hand chopped off for stealing a bit of bread, then they come over here to britain, yeah ok not a problem, but then, they get arrested and theyre families complain when theyre out into prison "oh this punishment is too harsh, would never happen to a white boy" shut up cos in your country the punishments are much worse
So it seems that people have a problem with someone dedicating the killing of an animal to god? It's still going to taste the same, this is being made a big issue for no reason/
@ThaMajed The taste is not the issue! It is being dedicated to a foreign god, and Christians and Sikhs, whose respective religions forbid the eating of meat slaughtered in that way should know what we are buying in the supermarkets so we can avoid it.
@christianvoiceuk Sikhs were around before the prophet of Islam arrive so I think I would be correct in assuming that this decleration of eating halal meat to be a sin is an innovated ideology. That is besides the point though... my understanding is that in the world there are 3 monotheistic religions, and all assuming there is only one God. It can only be logical to recognise that these 3 religions are worshipping the same God but in their own way.
@ThaMajed Sikhism was was created in 1699 by Guru Nanak Dev, ten centuries after Mohammed! It does not follow that if a religion is monotheistic and claims its god is the supreme being, identical to Almighty God, that its point of view is true.
Why are they complaining about halal meat? Muslims too might be tricked at supermarkets where it says halal and its not.If anything Halal is better than non halal meat. All the blood is drained out as is the urine because once cut from the neck the hearts pumping out urine so there is no disease in your meat.the weight of it doesn't trick you like haram meat where its weighed extra coz of blood. Finally the animal submits to the word of God, if you don't believe me watch this watch?v=quhVxLUwiBw
@Illacistmusic Complete nonsense about the urine. That stays in the bladder. All meat in the UK is bled out whether it has the halal chant said over it and whether it is stunned or not.
@TheTalibilm It is not more expensive because the addition of the Islamic Shahada said over the animal adds no cost. The majority of slaughterhouses are killing halal so they can sell the offal which the majority market does not want on to Muslim markets. It was Waitrose who let that piece of information out.
@badboy78620091 Not true. It may come as a shock to a Muslim, but it is possible for someone to take a principled stand and hold an opinion without money changing hands or being related, or having some connection.
That is 1 very single mined guy. What he reads from the bible is his interpitation for it and everyone knows the bible has been miss trancelated over the years and there is no orgeranle copy of it. The Quran is more correct in loads of ways and he didnt dewel too much on the quran passages. 1 thing I nostest is that he didnt talk about kosha meat. That is killed in the same way as halal meat. He can eat halal meat because its been blessed in the name of GOD.
@Layla462 The authority of the Bible was confirmed at the Synod of Carthage in 397 AD so the Christian scriptures were settled two centuries before Mohammed (570 - 622 AD). The Quran says: 5 (The Table) 46: 'And in their footsteps We sent Jesus the son of Mary, confirming the Law that had come before him: We sent him the Gospel: therein was guidance and light, and confirmation of the Law that had come before him: a guidance and an admonition to those who fear Allah.' Quran confirms the Bible!
@MarchToFreedom 'Jesus Christ himself ate according to the Jewish law'. Yes, six and a half centuries before Mohammed was born and invented Islam to protect the pagan god in the Cube in Mecca known as Allah (='the god')! Kosher food does not have a dedication to Allah said over it.
@MarchToFreedom There is no evidence Abraham was ever in Arabia and the book of Genesis says he built an Altar to the true God at Moriah not a Kaaba for 360 idols in Mecca. So you decide which verses in the Koran are fake, do you? If Islam is the worship of the one God, then why does Islam not respect the Jews, whose Scriptures were the Old Testament endorsed by the Quran, or worship the crucified, risen, ascended Jesus, as commanded in the New Testament (also endorsed by the Quran)?
You confused man, You basically said that muslims worship idols and the moon. Are you that dumb. We are abrahamic religions we worship the same god. Untill the bible got corrupted and started saying to worship jesus!
@Treckorz Quran says: 5:46: And in their footsteps We sent Jesus the son of Mary, confirming the Law that had come before him: We sent him the Gospel: therein was guidance and light, and confirmation of the Law that had come before him: a guidance and an admonition to those who fear Allah. Mohammed respected and recommended the Bible which was settled at least two centuries before he was born. So why did the Quran endorse what you say is a corrupted book?
I don't agree with halal methods but neither do I want christian dogma to dictate how I live. You all need a good look at what you're doing and it's time to just keep your religious beliefs to yourselves.
@Spazzletwat Funnily enough, us Christians don't want either Islamic or Atheist/Secularist dogma to dictate how we live. All the freedoms you take for granted in this country come from Christianity oer almost two millennia. You atheists, changing those laws, are cutting off the branch you are sitting on and creating a spiritual vacuum in public policy which Islam is keen to fill.
Everywhere i go i ask if its halal and if it is i boycott it. I have emailed the names given in the video but some of them havent gone through due to unrecognized address. I work in the airport and even the staff canteen is halal down there. What is the world coming to and how can we stop this inhumane, ritualistic meat!
The words spoken, when a Halal animal is slaughtered, do not constitute a prayer, not as Christians, or as most Westerners, would think of a prayer; it is, in fact, a declaration of cultural superiority; it is an aspect of stealth-Jihad.
By the way, more than 5% of the UK population are Muslim. Try 10%. Also, 20% of the UK population under 20 are Muslim. So, in 20 years, the UK Muslim population will be about 30% Things are changing fast; but the native Brits are not noticing. Wake up; you are being replaced, culturally and demographically.
@thespacialone We think it's code for anti-Christian rather than anti-white. Let's not forget there are Muslims now of all races (although at Chrisitan Voice we beliee there is one race, the human race).
@Birdgull1 The Quran says: 5:46. And in their footsteps We sent Jesus the son of Mary, confirming the Law that had come before him: We sent him the Gospel: therein was guidance and light, and confirmation of the Law that had come before him: a guidance and an admonition to those who fear Allah. So as it is the religion of truth, you can now safely read the whole Bible knowing that it is completely endorsed by Islam, can't you?
The presenter is hiding behind islamaphobia rhetoric, as though we muslims is our fault, if ignorant supermarket managers fail to display clealry Halal meet in thier shelves.
I am also sick and tired of being told what to do in the UK by other nationalities. If they don't like our laws and foods etc, let them go back to where they come from. I don't want to eat meat that has been slaughtered in the most barbaric and sadistic way possible, and I don't want to hear the old 'clap-trap' about how the animals feels no pain and it dies quickly.
Halal meat is not healthier. When an animal dies in panic and fear, toxins are released into the blood stream, that taint the meant, regardless whether it is drained or not. In ancient times it was believed that disease was borne by the blood.
Look at the Nilotic tribes of Eastern Africa, who bleed their cattle for food. At least we know pork is not halal. The point is we are not being given an informed choice.
Stephen I just want to say as a British born muslim, I 100% support the motion to label halal meat appropriately. Thank you for your effort of researching into this matter, I was so excited to find out! Abundant halal meal WOOOHOOO!!!! Halal lamb chops here I come! This would save us muslims so much trouble! A lot of us would happily buy halal meat from a non-muslim butcher and the labeling would really help! I pray (to Allah) that you are successful in this particular endeavor.
@DigitalApoc As soon as halal meat is touched by a non-Muslim butcher it becomes haram and you can't eat it. I think Waitrose gave the game away. They want to sell the lesser cuts into the halal market and in essence they just dump the better halal cuts onto the non-halal market, but they can't label them as 'halal' because they have been outside Muslim control and handling and have become haram, as I said at the top. So if they label it as 'ritually-slaughtered' fewer people will buy it.
@christianvoiceuk "As soon as halal meat is touched by a non-Muslim butcher it becomes haram and you can't eat it." Where did you get this from?? That is not true at all and as @DigitalApoc it will be great if all these shops label the meat appropriately to save lot of Muslims travelling miles to buy halal meet. So I add my voice: wish you success in this effort
@jomanjy09 On the yanabi website, a contributor says: 'salam brother the ruling like i have explained before. it dosent matter if its hmc approved, if it goes out of the view of the muslim then its not regarded as halal anymore. if the muslim staff in tesco can cofirm that 24 hours a day its under muslim view then its halal. if it goes out of view even for a minute and the kuffar dont do nothing with it even then according to sharia that product is not for muslims to eat.' HFA say the same.
@christianvoiceuk the last thing I care about is what people say on internet. Anyone can write anything in the internet and it's full of bulshit. I have the original resources which I refer to. The prophet (peace be upon him) ate in non-muslims houses and the Quran told us that the food of the people of book (christians & Jewish) is permitted (ie halal) for us.
@jomanjy09 The verse you refer to is from book 5 (The Table) v5. It assumes the people of the book and their foods are pure (v4) but it does not allow you to eat pork or anything upon which Allah's name is not invoked (v3). So you can't eat whatever Christians eat. Finally, obviously, you have no way of knowing whether the bloke who handled it in Tesco was a practising Christian or Jew at all! That is why all Muslim authorities say meat has to remain under Muslim supervision to stay halal.
@christianvoiceuk First if you read carefully, I didn't say I can can't eat whatever Christians eat. Similarly if a Muslim eats pork (he is still Muslim by the way, although committed a sin) doesn't mean I can eat same as him nor does this mean I can't eat his other food. I don't want to go into an endless discussion about what the that versus or whether Christians are allowed, to start with, to eat pork or not slaughtered animals & when say "all Muslim authorities" its actually no one said that
@jomanjy09 Every Muslim authority I know says that if halal meat goes out of Muslim supervision for just one minute it becomes haram. That is why Tesco et al cannot label their halal-slaughtered kuffir-handled meat 'halal'. If you are telling me different, then tell me which Muslim authorities agree with you.
@christianvoiceuk oh! I didn't realise that you know that much of Muslim authorities! The question actually should be you name these authorities. The burden of proof relies on you because you are who is trying to proof something doesn't exist. Nevertheless, even you name 100 person I still have the original source. The prophet (peace be upon him) ate in non-muslim's house, and that is very enough for me.
Thank you for your work and effort into this information. Halal foods are infiltrating the East Coast in America, so we need to be aware and informed. Thank you again for your work. We'll spread the word.
A big dilemma for UK is that most of the take-aways these days are run by the Muslim brethren esp. in my area. I am a Sikh and as the journalist said its totally against our 'cultural' ethics to consume Halal, but since I don't wanna waste time cooking I go to Asda. But finding that Asda is also Halal, is soo disheartening.
am I the only one who thinks that meat isn't really this guys problem? Seems like a bit of a hidden agenda, particualrly with the use of emotional imagery like embracing the lamb!?
I think back before the advent of the modern world, halal slaughter was relatively humane for the time, how do you kill an animal humanely without advanced tech to help deliver the a swift death for example? Still, i'm merely an atheist! :) Doesnt really bother me if it's halal providing they stun the animal, and conditions are no worse than they would otherwise be. It would probably annoy me to eat halal if i were christian or jewish however.
Christianvoiceuk- living in fear of Islam. And stirring up trouble over something as simple as Halal meat in their grocery store. Get over it, honestly.
Nothing surprises me in this shitole country we live in. All they care about is money. That's why when the Polish started coming over a "world foods" aisle appears in the supermarket which just so happens to be polish food. The government is always pleasing every other nationality apart from it's own people. I have nothing against any nationality but I'm sick of being treated like a second class citizen in my own country.
I take the point about supermarket not labelling halal as halal. Also what is the point in them selling halal that ain't labelled halal? A muslim's not gonna exactly buy it unless it's label halal. Plus Muslims normally buy their meat from halal meat stores, not supermarkets, so why are they doing this and angering and offending other faiths and giving muslims a bad name? to put this in context it wouldn't be very nice if lets say someone sold pork mislabelled to a muslim as halal lamb. peace
@nightvigilante Good Question! Waitrose said (not in so many words) that if they slaughter halal they can dump the cuts and offal the non-Muslims won't eat onto the Muslim market. That depends on the non-Muslim market accepting halal-slaughtered meat or buying it in ignorance. And that's where we came in!
@bingosocks The issue here, as we have to keep repeating, is not the stunning or lack of it, but the dedication to Allah said over the animal at the point of slaughter. Those of us who are concerned about this issue just do not want to eat food sacrificed to a false god. Halal meat should be labelled as ritually slaughtered whether it has been stunned or not.
@christianvoiceuk It is sad that there exists so much misinformation about this subject. If one does a thorough research, one will find that several veterinary medicine studies done in Germany and elsewhere have very clearly shown that ritual (halal) slaughter of animals did NOT cause any or at least NO MORE pain than killing by stunning! Google the following: German veterinary weekly, volume 85 (1978), pages 62-66.
@sbrebook The animal is bled out in stunned slaughter just as in non-stunned. Our objection is not based on whether the animal is stunned but on the sacrifice or dedication of it to Allah.
@TheLongfords The whole Establishment supports Islam, either out of fear or out of adherence to the anti-Christian multi-cultural dream. But no-one is having a go at Muslins on this channel, we are simply saying our food should be labelled so we know what we are buying.
@red44ever Hey, stop the name-calling both of you - there is no abuse allowed on this channel. Both the Orthodox Jews and the non-stun Muslims claim their way of slaughter is faster and more humane than the stunning method, and I'm not that sure that inducing an epileptic fit in a sheep is the height of animal welfare. The key point being made in the video is the Shahada or declaration to Allah said at the point of slaughter in both stunned and non-stunned Islamic slaughter.
@AtPGaming Maybe because he IS a Christian, the same way Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens blabber on about a godless universe, as if it's irrefutable fact.
Allah is not God. Islam denies Jesus, who says of Himself that He is I AM (Yahweh). Islam also denies Holy Spirit, in other words they do not worship God, only the moon god Allah, which is in fact a demon. I have read the Qu'ran, it denies the Trinity and is therefore antichrist!
The God of the Jews is not entirely the same as the Christian God either, since they leave Jesus Christ out of the picture, the Son of God, who is actually I AM in the flesh.
Acts 21, 25 - that is not an instruction to Christians. It is the Jewish Elders' observation on what they feel to be Christian behaviour. The episode takes place during Paul's visit to Jerusalem - Paul, a man that never met Christ and who does not have a Gospel.
The other thing he said in Corinth was "If any of them that believe not bid you to a feast, and ye be disposed to go; whatsoever is set before you, eat, asking no question for conscience sake."
@Long23 It is an instruction to Gentile Christians, plain as day, and is backed up by Christ's condemnation of the churches of Thyatira and Pergamos. Paul does not have a Gospel? Surely shome mishtake? Go see Acts 16:10, 20:24; Romans 1:1-16, 2:16, 10:15&16, 15:16-29, 16:25; 1Cor 1:17, 4:15 etc, etc. The quote from 1Cor goes on say that if you know the food is dedicated to an idol, don't eat it, as a witness. Precisely what we do when tell a supermarket why we aren't buying their meat.
I remember the scream the cow made when the halal approved slaughter sliced its throat while its legs were bound together kicking trying to get away the sound of pain blood gurgling and look of terror in its eyes ...I never ate halal since and NEVER will ....This is not gods food this is the opposite
This all seems like a lot of fuss over nothing to me. All the animals are stunned before slaughter, but with some you have a daft Muslim giving a silly blessing. I have no problem. The real problem is Islam itself, not some silly ritual.
You are misleading people. The word Allah just means one and only God. Muslims do not worship the so called "moon God" as the person is saying in the video at 5:30. This claim is easily refuted in the Quran Chapter 41 verse 37 which says Bow down in worship neither to the sun nor the moon; but (bow down) to Allah Who created them; if it is Him ye wish to serve.
They should ban halal altogether in the UK in my opinion. Its barbaric n inhumane. The welfare of the animal (something we know exists) should come before the happiness of some God (something we don't know exists)
no the issue is stunning, the animal must not be stunned people just want to change things due to lazyness
maryam88x 3 days ago
@maryam88x The issue for us is not stunning, it is the dedication to Allah said over the animal by the Muslim slaughterman. That is because some Islamic bodies allow stunning if the animal can be shown to be capable of revival if not killed in the meantime. How they argue that an animal having the equivalent of an epileptic fit is alive AND healthy is beyond me, but it is done to satisfy animal welfare demands. Traditionally, halal meat was never stunned before slaughter, you are right.
christianvoiceuk 10 hours ago
@maryam88x Further to our comment, in the UK the Halal Food Authority allow stunning, the Halal Monitoring Committee emphatically do not.
christianvoiceuk 10 hours ago
The bible has been tampered with from it's original form. Rewitten by man, many whom may have had dark intentions. It cannot be verified, but you can be sure there is much misinterpretation, or lack of word for word.
M1LAD81 4 days ago
@M1LAD81 The Quran says, Sura 3:3. It is He Who sent down to thee (step by step), in truth, the Book, confirming what went before it; and He sent down the Law (of Moses) and the Gospel (of Jesus) before this, as a guide to mankind, and He sent down the criterion (of judgment between right and wrong).
So as Allah in the Quran approves the Bible, as it stood when Mohammed wrote that down in the 7th Century AD, who tampered with it afterwards, and how?
christianvoiceuk 2 days ago
@M1LAD81 Has the Ten Commandments been tampered with.
Adjutantshalom 1 day ago
Thanks for raising this as an issue christianvoice, from an atheist (cultural C of E christian). You're right, atheists are as keen as christians to know what is actually halal.
guwest2 1 week ago
@guwest2 halah meat is when the throat of the animal is cut and all of the blood is drained out
YoungHecttick 10 hours ago
@YoungHecttick No. All slaughtering in the UK for human consumption is done the same way, the throat of the animal is cut to allow all the blood to drain out. It is the dedication to Allah (the Bismillah) that makes it halal. Without the dedication to Allah it is haram.
christianvoiceuk 10 hours ago
LATEST FROM THE HALAL BARBARIANS
Muslims butchers are proudly claiming that they
Sell "NON_STUNNED" meat only
This is where allah wants you to slowly slit the animal throat without first stunning the poor unfortunate animal, where the animal slowly bleeds to death in excruciating agony
This is the filth that the muslims serve in their resturants and pizza shops
Where are the liberal do gooders who compaigned against "cruel" fox hunting
Has their backbone suddenly turned into jelly
halalisevilll 1 week ago
@halalisevilll I'm sorry, but in halal slaughtering, kosher slaughtering or any slaughtering, the animal's throat is cut by a very sharp knife very quickly and it bleeds to death in seconds. The issue here is creeping Islamification, keeping consumers in the dark about meat dedicated to Allah by having a Muslim incantation said over it. The argument about stunning before slaughter is a separate argument.
christianvoiceuk 10 hours ago
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m3tpd 3 weeks ago
@m3tpd You meant 'whingers' and you were referring to the Muslims who are moaning on this channel. Very good point. Thanks.
christianvoiceuk 3 weeks ago
Very informative vid thanks
AJA7784 3 weeks ago
If its not labeled Halal then Muslims wont buy it... so whats the point???
Stupid!!!
dives005 1 month ago
@dives005 It was Waitrose who let the cat out of the bag. They slaughter halal not so Muslims will buy the ordinary meat in their supermarket (cause as soon as it is touched by an infidel it is haram) but so they can sell the offal, which the white folks aren't that keen on, into the halal export market. As the Meerkat says in the advert: 'Simples'.
christianvoiceuk 3 weeks ago
the claims made by this presenter dont make sense, people who eat meat most of them in this british population dont care how the animal was killed aslong as no health risk so why would the majority care if it was subject to ritual/religious slaughter? the reason why supermarkets label it because there is a market (small one) for halal/kosher and its business to sell what your customers want, dumb argument presented. propaganda to cause alarm usual garbage.
kisamakara 1 month ago
@kisamakara We don't want Sharia by the back door, we don't want creeping Islamification, we don't want a Mohammedan wail to a dodgy deity screamed over our meat and we want proper labelling so we know what we are buying. Not much to ask in a Christian country, is it?
christianvoiceuk 3 weeks ago
I myself am a pagan, how ever I do not think that a meat that has been prepared for a certain religion should just be sold with out being labels, christian might find this very distressing as well as jewish people , Jewish friendly food always have Kosha (!) on the labels, so why can't hala meat to then people can make there own minds up, also because of the "animal welfare" side of killing for halal meat alot of people wouldn't want to by it never mind there personal beliefs.
moonwitch1981 1 month ago
Jesus ate Kosher, Kosher is almost the same as Halal, slaughtered in exactly the same way... Therefore, Jesus pretty much ate Halal.
ThouShaltNotDefy 1 month ago
@ThouShaltNotDefy The Lord Jesus Christ did not eat food over which some pagan Arab had wailed 'Allahu Akbar' as he slaughtered it!
christianvoiceuk 1 month ago
@christianvoiceuk The only difference in the way Kosher and Halal are slaughtered is what is said over it, the method of killing is exactly the same.
Also, there's nothing Pagan about Islam. Allahu Akbar simply means God is Great, Islam and Christianity follow the same one God by the way and both believe in Jesus (Peace be upon Him), therefore if you're saying Islam is Pagan you're also saying Christianity is Pagan.
ThouShaltNotDefy 1 month ago
@ThouShaltNotDefy No, you are wrong again. Kosher meat is always killed without stunning and without a prayer to Allah (obviously). Halal meat may be pre-stunned or it may not according to which Islamic authority certifies it. And the Allahu Akbar said over it means 'Allah is Greater' (than other gods or God). The God whom Christians worship said to Jesus 'This is my beloved Son'. Allah denies having a son. So our God is not the same being as your Allah. Duh.
christianvoiceuk 3 weeks ago
@christianvoiceuk - ignorance, pure ignorance - If you study Islam to any extent you will realize it confirms and establishes the belief in one true God, the creator of every thing. It is your Christian doctrine that is in question. Jesus was not God but chosen by God. whats left of the message of Jesus in the bible today clearly shows he was not God.
kaz1i 1 month ago
@kaz1i Clearly you need to read the Bible. Email me your address and we'll post you a copy. Or search for our 'repentuk' website click on 'The Bible' and you can download Bible Student for free.
christianvoiceuk 3 weeks ago
@christianvoiceuki thaught halal and kosher were the exact opposite? i.e Kosher meaning kill quicky without pain??? i am sikh and halal meat is gross!!!!
mustachiosch 4 weeks ago
The god of Abraham (Peace be upon him) is the same as the god of Moses (pbuh) is the same god as Jesus (pbuh) is the same god as Mohammad (pbuh). Muslims do not worship any creation ie Moon, sun, idols. Muslims worship one god. The Muslim view on Jesus (PBUH) is that he was born without a father by Mary (PBUH).He was a prophet of god, he was not crucified but rather he was raised to the heaven and will return to fight the Anti-christ. All Abrahamic faiths preach the same thing...
Sujee21 1 month ago
@Sujee21 Another good exposition of why Allah is not the same as Almighty God. The God of the Bible commended his beloved Son, the god of the Koran denies having a son. He is too posh for that. But God humbled himself and became one of us, died on the cross that we might be forgiven and then ascended back into heaven. The Koran denies all of that as well. So the Abrahamic faiths (if that can include Islam, which we strongly doubt) do not 'preach the same thing' at all!
christianvoiceuk 1 month ago
@christianvoiceuk I have one question which i hope you can clarify, So the quraan is 1400 years old, each and every copy in the world is the same, people have memorised the entire book all 6000+ verses, i am fortunate to have memorised it as well. Now the bible, can you say the same ? Muslims believe in the original bible, however that does not exist today. Could you please quote me verses wherein Jesus himself proclaimed to be god ?
Sujee21 1 month ago
@Sujee21 The funny thing is, the Greek Septuagint dates from 300-150BC and the Dead Sea Scrolls confirm the Hebrew Masoretic text of the Old Testament. The New Testament was written in the 1st century and accepted by the 3rd century AD. So the Bible was settled way before the birth of Mohammed. So when Mohammed told Muslims to follow the Law (OT) and the Gospel (NT) in Sura 3:3, he was talking about the Bible as it was then and is now.
christianvoiceuk 3 weeks ago
@Sujee21 Jesus proclaimed himself to be God every time he referred to himself as 'I Am' as in: John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. Also when Jesus referred to himself as 'the Son of Man' - a reference to Daniel 7:13. Not enough space here but go to the Christian Voice website, click on 'Bible Articles' and you will find an article 'WHO IS THIS SON OF MAN?'
which was first published in Christian Voice in November 2010. Have a read.
christianvoiceuk 3 weeks ago
@Sujee21 That is the deception. Please tell me why the muslims are the only religion that directly conflicts with another for holy spots? The muslims have been trying to take isreal forever.. That is not their land, it is the land of the jews. I came onto this video after reading a verse in revelations of the holy bible KJV Revelations 2:20 Read it.
ExperienceHrt 3 weeks ago
I am an atheist but also a cultural Christian and I fully support you, I just hope (perhaps naively) that you are doing it for the welfare of the animals first, and Christianity second, as this would be far more noble.
Thanks.
Areopagitican 1 month ago
@Areopagitican Sorry to disappoint you! There is no welfare issue with pre-stunned halal slaughter; our campaign is all about resisting creeping Islamification and dishonesty in the retail trade.
christianvoiceuk 1 month ago
I agree with you in the fact that halal meat should be CLEARLY labelled as halal, but I as to Christianity, can you really trust everything in the bible as true? It has been translated from Aramaic to Greek to Latin and more with (I expect) many changes over time. Also, many christian theologians have thought that some parts of the bible are meant figuratively by god not literally, for example Jesus being the son of god is the same as every one of us being sons and daughters of god. After all
theyoungoutsider 1 month ago
@theyoungoutsider Thank you for your support. Yes we can trust everything in the Bible. The Hebrew Old Testament (the Masoretic Text) was settled over two millennia ago and the Greek New Testament (the Textus Receptus) was agreed upon by the church very early. All the NT writers were eye-witnesses of the ministry of Jesus. These two texts (without any Latin!) were the basis of the King James Version of the Bible. The divinty of Jesus is easily confirmed in all the scriptures.
christianvoiceuk 1 month ago
There is absolutely nothing wrong with the halal method of slaughtering an animal.
abdulmuhyemin 1 month ago
@abdulmuhyemin ... Except for the incantation to Allah said over it ....!
christianvoiceuk 1 month ago
Only buy British meat and i will not buy Halal Meat, Thank you Morrisons.
MrsLeanneElliott 1 month ago
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O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God.Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth.
Birdgull1 1 month ago
@Birdgull1 Perfect exposition of why Allah is not the same as Almighty God. The God of the Bible commended his beloved Son, the god of the Koran denies having a son. He is too posh for that. But God humbled himself and became one of us, died on the cross that we might be forgiven and then ascended back into heaven. That is how much Almighty God cares. How much does Allah care about mankind? Not a whistle.
christianvoiceuk 1 month ago
@petepedant the way you talk is funny. first of all stop talking about my country precious 'TURKEY' and stop changing the conversation. This is a convo about halal meat not about turkish history, come to yourself and get your facts right. Go get some history books from Waterstones and then come and have a debate with me. Funny now eh?
melisacik1 1 month ago
@christianvoiceuk yes i am looking at the muslim people all around the world. You no what will happen if i report you to the police? you will go in to jail because of being racist. NOT ONLY MUSLIM PEOPLE EAT HALAL. READ THE BIBLE BEFORE YOU COME AND START CHATTING CRAP. delete this video now!
melisacik1 1 month ago
@melisacik1 Unlike Muslim countries, we have (a measure of) freedom of speech in this country. I've read the Bible, thanks! There is a difference between a religion and a race. Race you are born with, religion you can change. Except of course if you are a Muslim, where the penalty for renouncing Islam is death.
christianvoiceuk 1 month ago
its the junk food people has to watch out for
RAGSTAluvsDA90z 1 month ago
Sorry to the guy whose post about Morrisons and M&S was accidentally deleted.
christianvoiceuk 2 months ago
thats canterbury asda
acccc909 2 months ago
@acccc909 Swansea. They all look alike!
christianvoiceuk 2 months ago
what is this biased person on about, 'the quran misundersatnds this and denies it' he is disrespecting islam, that not right at all.
MohasDarkTech35 2 months ago
Am sure u have accidentally ate Hallal and u r still alive then shut ur mouth. U blaming muslim it supermarket fault. Am sure u pretent to be a muslim to get information. By the way whenever any british is going on holiday in any middle east country for holiday like dudai or even morroco what u think u gona eat there? what silly video.
nasrineable 2 months ago
@nasrineable Good point. Avoid holidays anywhere Muslim. And don't fly Emirates, Qatar or any other Muslim airline. I'll never forget on an Emirates flight (the last I'll ever take - didn't know at the time) the slices of halal turkey painted with red stripes to look like bacon!
christianvoiceuk 2 months ago
Im a turkish muslim and this is being racist! muslim people do not go around hating on christians so why are they? apparently we are chatting crap about the bible etc etc. racist british people are trying to get rid of muslim people, wake up! first they were doing it to black people and now to the muslims. whose next? jewish people? are these people going to be the 'BRITISH NAZIS' ?
melisacik1 2 months ago
@melisacik1 No, a quick look at how Islam operates all around the world shows that you are.
christianvoiceuk 2 months ago
@melisacik1 Just out of interest, are you Turks going to own up to the Armenian genicide of over 1.5 million any time soon? Coincidentally, Turkey also happens to consist of between 96 -99% muslim. Just like a ratchet the % muslims in islamic countries only ever goes one way. funny that eh?
peterpedant 2 months ago
Great video Stephen Green. It's amazing that the supermarkets have kept this information from us
MarvinsKitchen 2 months ago
Does Steven green the host is against halal meat because he's racist against islam or his religion prohibited eating halal meat ?
ayaanle33 2 months ago
@ayaanle33 It's the latter as clearly explained on the video, and you can't be racist against a religion, only against a race.
christianvoiceuk 2 months ago
if the food is not halal ...they have either injected or stuned the animal and left the blood inside making it poisenous...
RAGSTAluvsDA90z 2 months ago
@RAGSTAluvsDA90z No, Stunned animals are still bled out just the same. The halal meat secretly on sale on supermarket shelves is stunned before slaughter, when the Shahada is said over it dedicating it to Allah just before the knife goes in. I don't know how the Halal Food Authority can say that an animal having an epileptic fit is healthy but they do it so their meat can be halal and not upset the animal welfare lobby.
christianvoiceuk 2 months ago
What i dont understand is Muslims from abroad, from countries with the Sharia laws over in saudi arabia for instance, whe women are not allowed to drive, you get your hand chopped off for stealing a bit of bread, then they come over here to britain, yeah ok not a problem, but then, they get arrested and theyre families complain when theyre out into prison "oh this punishment is too harsh, would never happen to a white boy" shut up cos in your country the punishments are much worse
robdeacon100 2 months ago
this guy is so stupid
Meth0001 2 months ago
@Meth0001 Actually, this guy has woken up to the creeping Islamification in his nation
christianvoiceuk 2 months ago
When muslims scream " allahuakbar ", They are NOT saying that "God is great",
They are, in fact, saying " allah is greater(than the God of Christianity & Judaism) "
THIS IS AN ABSOLUTE FACT, -
muslims will deny this, of course,
because they are liars.
0XDracuIaX0 2 months ago
So it seems that people have a problem with someone dedicating the killing of an animal to god? It's still going to taste the same, this is being made a big issue for no reason/
ThaMajed 2 months ago
@ThaMajed The taste is not the issue! It is being dedicated to a foreign god, and Christians and Sikhs, whose respective religions forbid the eating of meat slaughtered in that way should know what we are buying in the supermarkets so we can avoid it.
christianvoiceuk 2 months ago
@ThaMajed In that case it should not be a problem for muslims to eat non-halal meat while living in the shari'ah non-compliant UK.
peterpedant 2 months ago
why cant sikhs eat halal meat?
ThaMajed 2 months ago
@ThaMajed It is one of four cardinal sins for a Sikh to eat meat slaughtered in the Muslim way.
christianvoiceuk 2 months ago
@christianvoiceuk Sikhs were around before the prophet of Islam arrive so I think I would be correct in assuming that this decleration of eating halal meat to be a sin is an innovated ideology. That is besides the point though... my understanding is that in the world there are 3 monotheistic religions, and all assuming there is only one God. It can only be logical to recognise that these 3 religions are worshipping the same God but in their own way.
ThaMajed 2 months ago
@ThaMajed Sikhism was was created in 1699 by Guru Nanak Dev, ten centuries after Mohammed! It does not follow that if a religion is monotheistic and claims its god is the supreme being, identical to Almighty God, that its point of view is true.
christianvoiceuk 1 month ago
Why are they complaining about halal meat? Muslims too might be tricked at supermarkets where it says halal and its not.If anything Halal is better than non halal meat. All the blood is drained out as is the urine because once cut from the neck the hearts pumping out urine so there is no disease in your meat.the weight of it doesn't trick you like haram meat where its weighed extra coz of blood. Finally the animal submits to the word of God, if you don't believe me watch this watch?v=quhVxLUwiBw
Illacistmusic 2 months ago
@Illacistmusic Complete nonsense about the urine. That stays in the bladder. All meat in the UK is bled out whether it has the halal chant said over it and whether it is stunned or not.
christianvoiceuk 2 months ago
Halal meat is more expensive so why would Markets swap it and sell it at cheaper prices? Morons.
TheTalibilm 2 months ago
@TheTalibilm It is not more expensive because the addition of the Islamic Shahada said over the animal adds no cost. The majority of slaughterhouses are killing halal so they can sell the offal which the majority market does not want on to Muslim markets. It was Waitrose who let that piece of information out.
christianvoiceuk 2 months ago
this guy hass connection with morrisons chief manager off course he will endorse morrisons
badboy78620091 2 months ago
@badboy78620091 Not true. It may come as a shock to a Muslim, but it is possible for someone to take a principled stand and hold an opinion without money changing hands or being related, or having some connection.
christianvoiceuk 2 months ago
That is 1 very single mined guy. What he reads from the bible is his interpitation for it and everyone knows the bible has been miss trancelated over the years and there is no orgeranle copy of it. The Quran is more correct in loads of ways and he didnt dewel too much on the quran passages. 1 thing I nostest is that he didnt talk about kosha meat. That is killed in the same way as halal meat. He can eat halal meat because its been blessed in the name of GOD.
Layla462 2 months ago
@Layla462 The authority of the Bible was confirmed at the Synod of Carthage in 397 AD so the Christian scriptures were settled two centuries before Mohammed (570 - 622 AD). The Quran says: 5 (The Table) 46: 'And in their footsteps We sent Jesus the son of Mary, confirming the Law that had come before him: We sent him the Gospel: therein was guidance and light, and confirmation of the Law that had come before him: a guidance and an admonition to those who fear Allah.' Quran confirms the Bible!
christianvoiceuk 2 months ago
Halal meat is the same as Kosher... Jesus Christ himself ate according to the Jewish law.
So a Christian saying that Halal food is somehow a bad thing is quite funny to me.
MarchToFreedom 2 months ago
@MarchToFreedom 'Jesus Christ himself ate according to the Jewish law'. Yes, six and a half centuries before Mohammed was born and invented Islam to protect the pagan god in the Cube in Mecca known as Allah (='the god')! Kosher food does not have a dedication to Allah said over it.
christianvoiceuk 2 months ago
@christianvoiceuk Mohammed didn't "invent" Islam..Islam is the worship of the one God just as all the prophets before told us to do.
"pagan god in the cube in Mecca" ?
The Ka'ba in Mecca is the first place of worship built on earth by Abraham.
Islam, you would know had you ever actually read the Qur'an (don't try to look clever by copypasting fake and out of context quotes now)
denounces paganism and tells us to worship the one God who created the heavens and the earth.
MarchToFreedom 2 months ago 2
@MarchToFreedom There is no evidence Abraham was ever in Arabia and the book of Genesis says he built an Altar to the true God at Moriah not a Kaaba for 360 idols in Mecca. So you decide which verses in the Koran are fake, do you? If Islam is the worship of the one God, then why does Islam not respect the Jews, whose Scriptures were the Old Testament endorsed by the Quran, or worship the crucified, risen, ascended Jesus, as commanded in the New Testament (also endorsed by the Quran)?
christianvoiceuk 2 months ago
You confused man, You basically said that muslims worship idols and the moon. Are you that dumb. We are abrahamic religions we worship the same god. Untill the bible got corrupted and started saying to worship jesus!
Treckorz 2 months ago
@Treckorz Quran says: 5:46: And in their footsteps We sent Jesus the son of Mary, confirming the Law that had come before him: We sent him the Gospel: therein was guidance and light, and confirmation of the Law that had come before him: a guidance and an admonition to those who fear Allah. Mohammed respected and recommended the Bible which was settled at least two centuries before he was born. So why did the Quran endorse what you say is a corrupted book?
christianvoiceuk 2 months ago
I don't agree with halal methods but neither do I want christian dogma to dictate how I live. You all need a good look at what you're doing and it's time to just keep your religious beliefs to yourselves.
Spazzletwat 2 months ago
@Spazzletwat Funnily enough, us Christians don't want either Islamic or Atheist/Secularist dogma to dictate how we live. All the freedoms you take for granted in this country come from Christianity oer almost two millennia. You atheists, changing those laws, are cutting off the branch you are sitting on and creating a spiritual vacuum in public policy which Islam is keen to fill.
christianvoiceuk 2 months ago
butterball turkeys =halal.
MrDiscobill 2 months ago
Everywhere i go i ask if its halal and if it is i boycott it. I have emailed the names given in the video but some of them havent gone through due to unrecognized address. I work in the airport and even the staff canteen is halal down there. What is the world coming to and how can we stop this inhumane, ritualistic meat!
BBKINTERNATIONAL 2 months ago 2
..i'm a muslim in uk .....i don't mind labeling the meat to prevent confusion
jsmam1 3 months ago
The words spoken, when a Halal animal is slaughtered, do not constitute a prayer, not as Christians, or as most Westerners, would think of a prayer; it is, in fact, a declaration of cultural superiority; it is an aspect of stealth-Jihad.
capturedpilot 3 months ago 5
By the way, more than 5% of the UK population are Muslim. Try 10%. Also, 20% of the UK population under 20 are Muslim. So, in 20 years, the UK Muslim population will be about 30% Things are changing fast; but the native Brits are not noticing. Wake up; you are being replaced, culturally and demographically.
2030 Collective says: wake up.
capturedpilot 3 months ago
great consumer advice
raymondykc 3 months ago 6
How many multiculturalists are going to Asian countries and preaching to them the wonders of "diversity"?
How many multiculturalists are going to Arabic and African countries and preaching to them the wonders of "diversity"?
Are they just lazy? Or do they really believe the “wonders” apply only to their own countries - that only white people need to be "diversified"?
Diversity is code for Anti-White.
It's genocide against white people.
thespacialone 3 months ago 3
@thespacialone We think it's code for anti-Christian rather than anti-white. Let's not forget there are Muslims now of all races (although at Chrisitan Voice we beliee there is one race, the human race).
christianvoiceuk 2 months ago
Islam is the religion of truth
Birdgull1 3 months ago
@Birdgull1 The Quran says: 5:46. And in their footsteps We sent Jesus the son of Mary, confirming the Law that had come before him: We sent him the Gospel: therein was guidance and light, and confirmation of the Law that had come before him: a guidance and an admonition to those who fear Allah. So as it is the religion of truth, you can now safely read the whole Bible knowing that it is completely endorsed by Islam, can't you?
christianvoiceuk 2 months ago
The presenter is hiding behind islamaphobia rhetoric, as though we muslims is our fault, if ignorant supermarket managers fail to display clealry Halal meet in thier shelves.
jamaal12345 3 months ago
@jamaal12345 you muslims throw that word around - phobia means fear, I do not fear Islam, Idespise what it is all about
kidsarocker 3 months ago
Excellent Video. Thank you.
academysounds 3 months ago 3
Wanted to point out that this video makes no sense.
The Halal way actually severs the nerves, so the receptors to their brains and defunct.
Stunning them acts like any taser would.
The electric bolt does not always knock them out. It can possible kill the, or render them incapacitated but awake.
So if you think Halal is "Barbaric".
Slaughtering an Animal via a Machine after a failed "Stun" isn't?
mab999 4 months ago
I am also sick and tired of being told what to do in the UK by other nationalities. If they don't like our laws and foods etc, let them go back to where they come from. I don't want to eat meat that has been slaughtered in the most barbaric and sadistic way possible, and I don't want to hear the old 'clap-trap' about how the animals feels no pain and it dies quickly.
clioandminnie 4 months ago
Halal meat is not healthier. When an animal dies in panic and fear, toxins are released into the blood stream, that taint the meant, regardless whether it is drained or not. In ancient times it was believed that disease was borne by the blood.
Look at the Nilotic tribes of Eastern Africa, who bleed their cattle for food. At least we know pork is not halal. The point is we are not being given an informed choice.
EagleThrust 4 months ago
Stephen I just want to say as a British born muslim, I 100% support the motion to label halal meat appropriately. Thank you for your effort of researching into this matter, I was so excited to find out! Abundant halal meal WOOOHOOO!!!! Halal lamb chops here I come! This would save us muslims so much trouble! A lot of us would happily buy halal meat from a non-muslim butcher and the labeling would really help! I pray (to Allah) that you are successful in this particular endeavor.
Kindly yours
DigitalApoc 4 months ago 2
@DigitalApoc As soon as halal meat is touched by a non-Muslim butcher it becomes haram and you can't eat it. I think Waitrose gave the game away. They want to sell the lesser cuts into the halal market and in essence they just dump the better halal cuts onto the non-halal market, but they can't label them as 'halal' because they have been outside Muslim control and handling and have become haram, as I said at the top. So if they label it as 'ritually-slaughtered' fewer people will buy it.
christianvoiceuk 4 months ago
@christianvoiceuk "As soon as halal meat is touched by a non-Muslim butcher it becomes haram and you can't eat it." Where did you get this from?? That is not true at all and as @DigitalApoc it will be great if all these shops label the meat appropriately to save lot of Muslims travelling miles to buy halal meet. So I add my voice: wish you success in this effort
jomanjy09 4 months ago
@jomanjy09 On the yanabi website, a contributor says: 'salam brother the ruling like i have explained before. it dosent matter if its hmc approved, if it goes out of the view of the muslim then its not regarded as halal anymore. if the muslim staff in tesco can cofirm that 24 hours a day its under muslim view then its halal. if it goes out of view even for a minute and the kuffar dont do nothing with it even then according to sharia that product is not for muslims to eat.' HFA say the same.
christianvoiceuk 4 months ago
@christianvoiceuk the last thing I care about is what people say on internet. Anyone can write anything in the internet and it's full of bulshit. I have the original resources which I refer to. The prophet (peace be upon him) ate in non-muslims houses and the Quran told us that the food of the people of book (christians & Jewish) is permitted (ie halal) for us.
jomanjy09 4 months ago
@jomanjy09 The verse you refer to is from book 5 (The Table) v5. It assumes the people of the book and their foods are pure (v4) but it does not allow you to eat pork or anything upon which Allah's name is not invoked (v3). So you can't eat whatever Christians eat. Finally, obviously, you have no way of knowing whether the bloke who handled it in Tesco was a practising Christian or Jew at all! That is why all Muslim authorities say meat has to remain under Muslim supervision to stay halal.
christianvoiceuk 4 months ago
@christianvoiceuk First if you read carefully, I didn't say I can can't eat whatever Christians eat. Similarly if a Muslim eats pork (he is still Muslim by the way, although committed a sin) doesn't mean I can eat same as him nor does this mean I can't eat his other food. I don't want to go into an endless discussion about what the that versus or whether Christians are allowed, to start with, to eat pork or not slaughtered animals & when say "all Muslim authorities" its actually no one said that
jomanjy09 4 months ago
@jomanjy09 Every Muslim authority I know says that if halal meat goes out of Muslim supervision for just one minute it becomes haram. That is why Tesco et al cannot label their halal-slaughtered kuffir-handled meat 'halal'. If you are telling me different, then tell me which Muslim authorities agree with you.
christianvoiceuk 4 months ago
@christianvoiceuk oh! I didn't realise that you know that much of Muslim authorities! The question actually should be you name these authorities. The burden of proof relies on you because you are who is trying to proof something doesn't exist. Nevertheless, even you name 100 person I still have the original source. The prophet (peace be upon him) ate in non-muslim's house, and that is very enough for me.
jomanjy09 4 months ago
@jomanjy09 You can't name one.
christianvoiceuk 4 months ago
What a disgrace stop allowing muslims to have thier way in England, muslims would never adapt to other people culture or way of living.
uk1980s1 4 months ago
atleast there is no halal bacon :D
ishy321 4 months ago
Thank you for your work and effort into this information. Halal foods are infiltrating the East Coast in America, so we need to be aware and informed. Thank you again for your work. We'll spread the word.
meyersonfire 4 months ago
I boycott asda and all muslim shops and stores.
I do not buy anything marked with the halal sign.
Muslims must be taught to respect others if they want respect.
Muslim traders now highlight the halal sign in all their shops in the hope that western mugs will start to accept it as normal.
All muslim resturants and food outlets are halal,
I never eat that shit
Do not eat animals that are tortured to death and die writhing in agony.
Do not promote the filth of islam by eating halal shit
halalisevilll 4 months ago
please watch this mercy halal islamic slaughter video on youtube so you can see how disgusting it really is.
alexit26 5 months ago
Please sign the petition in the link i have just singed it,People are signing it but not very often
MrCrusader363 5 months ago
we are in the uk....if you cant respect uk culture and customs please find another country. the uk is turning into an international toilet
mrtoptenatten 5 months ago
It's mad how the English are just expected to roll over for everyone isn't it!
Get your backbone back Britain!!
You were once a roaring lion - now you're a frightened little kitten shivering in the corner!!
davedenisetigg 5 months ago 3
A big dilemma for UK is that most of the take-aways these days are run by the Muslim brethren esp. in my area. I am a Sikh and as the journalist said its totally against our 'cultural' ethics to consume Halal, but since I don't wanna waste time cooking I go to Asda. But finding that Asda is also Halal, is soo disheartening.
guruasis 5 months ago 16
am I the only one who thinks that meat isn't really this guys problem? Seems like a bit of a hidden agenda, particualrly with the use of emotional imagery like embracing the lamb!?
asulei 5 months ago
@asulei The presenter is holding the sheep so it won't walk off and spoil the shot!
christianvoiceuk 5 months ago 7
I think back before the advent of the modern world, halal slaughter was relatively humane for the time, how do you kill an animal humanely without advanced tech to help deliver the a swift death for example? Still, i'm merely an atheist! :) Doesnt really bother me if it's halal providing they stun the animal, and conditions are no worse than they would otherwise be. It would probably annoy me to eat halal if i were christian or jewish however.
BVargas78 5 months ago
Christianvoiceuk- living in fear of Islam. And stirring up trouble over something as simple as Halal meat in their grocery store. Get over it, honestly.
HarunDanyal 5 months ago
Nothing surprises me in this shitole country we live in. All they care about is money. That's why when the Polish started coming over a "world foods" aisle appears in the supermarket which just so happens to be polish food. The government is always pleasing every other nationality apart from it's own people. I have nothing against any nationality but I'm sick of being treated like a second class citizen in my own country.
yummybummy69 5 months ago 2
another option if the idea of giving up meat eating is not an option for you
stick to pork and ham
whitesquirrel7 6 months ago 3
@whitesquirrel7 Or buy all your meat from Morrisons or M&S where it is all non-halal except for the frozen New Zealand lamb.
christianvoiceuk 6 months ago
there is a simpler way
give up eating meat and go veggie / vegan
no problem with labelling or not labelling then
whitesquirrel7 6 months ago
I take the point about supermarket not labelling halal as halal. Also what is the point in them selling halal that ain't labelled halal? A muslim's not gonna exactly buy it unless it's label halal. Plus Muslims normally buy their meat from halal meat stores, not supermarkets, so why are they doing this and angering and offending other faiths and giving muslims a bad name? to put this in context it wouldn't be very nice if lets say someone sold pork mislabelled to a muslim as halal lamb. peace
nightvigilante 6 months ago
@nightvigilante Good Question! Waitrose said (not in so many words) that if they slaughter halal they can dump the cuts and offal the non-Muslims won't eat onto the Muslim market. That depends on the non-Muslim market accepting halal-slaughtered meat or buying it in ignorance. And that's where we came in!
christianvoiceuk 6 months ago
@nightvigilante I hear its cheaper to buy halal that non halal
justafriend08 5 months ago
@justafriend08 It could well be, because of economies of scale. Halal lamb is certainly no more expensive than non-halal, that's for sure.
christianvoiceuk 5 months ago
nope, is not because he's Christian, you funny muslims always blaming and babbling other, is a jew, is a christian, is a hindu... bla bla bla..
I'm atheist and as the rest of the population ( 5.5 billions of people) hate islam ( 1.3 billions) because is simply violent and so wrong.
And during history brought so much terror and wars, till nowadays... is just a scourge of humanity
missberetta2 6 months ago
May I ask if you would object to Kosher meats too, thanks?
bingosocks 6 months ago
@bingosocks The issue here, as we have to keep repeating, is not the stunning or lack of it, but the dedication to Allah said over the animal at the point of slaughter. Those of us who are concerned about this issue just do not want to eat food sacrificed to a false god. Halal meat should be labelled as ritually slaughtered whether it has been stunned or not.
christianvoiceuk 6 months ago
@christianvoiceuk shut up
hiyoitsmehamza 5 months ago
@christianvoiceuk It is sad that there exists so much misinformation about this subject. If one does a thorough research, one will find that several veterinary medicine studies done in Germany and elsewhere have very clearly shown that ritual (halal) slaughter of animals did NOT cause any or at least NO MORE pain than killing by stunning! Google the following: German veterinary weekly, volume 85 (1978), pages 62-66.
sbrebook 5 months ago
also, you should be happy to get halal meat, it's a lot healthier as most of the blood leaves the body of the animal...
sbrebook 5 months ago
@sbrebook The animal is bled out in stunned slaughter just as in non-stunned. Our objection is not based on whether the animal is stunned but on the sacrifice or dedication of it to Allah.
christianvoiceuk 5 months ago 2
thats my asda and tesco
Millzz1001 6 months ago
Thats my asda o-o
Millzz1001 6 months ago
The unions support muslims
TheLongfords 6 months ago
@TheLongfords The whole Establishment supports Islam, either out of fear or out of adherence to the anti-Christian multi-cultural dream. But no-one is having a go at Muslins on this channel, we are simply saying our food should be labelled so we know what we are buying.
christianvoiceuk 6 months ago
Oh my God, UK is going down the pan, disgusting islamic method of killing animals by halal is all over UK.
Wake up Britain! Stop this vile and primitive practice before those muslim fanatics stop YOU!
Hungaria56 7 months ago
@Hungaria56 same method is used by jews that's why we can eat their meat you swine.
red44ever 7 months ago
@red44ever Hey, stop the name-calling both of you - there is no abuse allowed on this channel. Both the Orthodox Jews and the non-stun Muslims claim their way of slaughter is faster and more humane than the stunning method, and I'm not that sure that inducing an epileptic fit in a sheep is the height of animal welfare. The key point being made in the video is the Shahada or declaration to Allah said at the point of slaughter in both stunned and non-stunned Islamic slaughter.
christianvoiceuk 6 months ago
@UKRetroGames 50,000+ viewings rather indicate this is a very good use of 12 minutes!
christianvoiceuk 7 months ago
lool u lot are very illogical lemme sum this up
layla4humza 7 months ago
this man is gone crazy .. doing useless commentary on islam ... telling lies
ahmedtauseef 7 months ago
why do we have to have this in our country ,there is no good reason for it.
edwards21416 7 months ago
This guy speaks about Christianity as it it is fact lol.
I do think that it is wrong that they aren't labelling the meat properly. Nobody should have religion forced upon them.
AtPGaming 7 months ago
@AtPGaming Maybe because he IS a Christian, the same way Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens blabber on about a godless universe, as if it's irrefutable fact.
OzDeist 6 months ago
Allah is not God. Islam denies Jesus, who says of Himself that He is I AM (Yahweh). Islam also denies Holy Spirit, in other words they do not worship God, only the moon god Allah, which is in fact a demon. I have read the Qu'ran, it denies the Trinity and is therefore antichrist!
The God of the Jews is not entirely the same as the Christian God either, since they leave Jesus Christ out of the picture, the Son of God, who is actually I AM in the flesh.
thalonen 7 months ago
There is one and ONLY one reason why they do not label it. Because sales WOULD drop if they did. GUARANTEED.
gdub12345 7 months ago
Acts 21, 25 - that is not an instruction to Christians. It is the Jewish Elders' observation on what they feel to be Christian behaviour. The episode takes place during Paul's visit to Jerusalem - Paul, a man that never met Christ and who does not have a Gospel.
The other thing he said in Corinth was "If any of them that believe not bid you to a feast, and ye be disposed to go; whatsoever is set before you, eat, asking no question for conscience sake."
Long23 7 months ago
@Long23 It is an instruction to Gentile Christians, plain as day, and is backed up by Christ's condemnation of the churches of Thyatira and Pergamos. Paul does not have a Gospel? Surely shome mishtake? Go see Acts 16:10, 20:24; Romans 1:1-16, 2:16, 10:15&16, 15:16-29, 16:25; 1Cor 1:17, 4:15 etc, etc. The quote from 1Cor goes on say that if you know the food is dedicated to an idol, don't eat it, as a witness. Precisely what we do when tell a supermarket why we aren't buying their meat.
christianvoiceuk 7 months ago
Go Vegetarian that will solve the problem...
willgadget 7 months ago
I remember the scream the cow made when the halal approved slaughter sliced its throat while its legs were bound together kicking trying to get away the sound of pain blood gurgling and look of terror in its eyes ...I never ate halal since and NEVER will ....This is not gods food this is the opposite
hiewy 7 months ago
Meat should be banned outright. Most people don't know that 70% of all agricultural land is used for rearing farmed animals.
Most people don't know that you can feed 30 vegans on the resources it takes to feed one person a hamburger.
However, if we're stuck with this foul industry, we should at the very least ban Halal. The cruelty inherent in this foul practise is outrageous.
Did you know that all schools in Harrow, Middlx will, from Sept 1st 2011 have Halal only on their menus? God help us.
key2kingdom 7 months ago
This all seems like a lot of fuss over nothing to me. All the animals are stunned before slaughter, but with some you have a daft Muslim giving a silly blessing. I have no problem. The real problem is Islam itself, not some silly ritual.
JimmyMacJones 7 months ago in playlist Exposing Evil Islam
You are misleading people. The word Allah just means one and only God. Muslims do not worship the so called "moon God" as the person is saying in the video at 5:30. This claim is easily refuted in the Quran Chapter 41 verse 37 which says Bow down in worship neither to the sun nor the moon; but (bow down) to Allah Who created them; if it is Him ye wish to serve.
razaa09 8 months ago
They should ban halal altogether in the UK in my opinion. Its barbaric n inhumane. The welfare of the animal (something we know exists) should come before the happiness of some God (something we don't know exists)
KrazyChick17 8 months ago
This crap is happening in Australia too.
clubpenguin777 8 months ago