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  • Too much education can be a bad thing these days. If you have too much education or certifications then you will be considered over qualified and probably require a very high salary. Companies can save money buy hiring a lesser educated person for less money.

  • i have my Microsoft certificate cause i took a Microsoft coarse at school (high-school) 

  • thumbs up f you hate ads

  • "sticktuitiveness"! Awesome word.

  • Hi Chris, and greetings from up I-5 a tad! Your comments about MS Certification is very interesting and I have reason to agree but with a few caveats. I've run my own software companies since 1995, interviewed hundreds of people personally, and screened thousands of CVs. When someone presents their formal education I never assume that this means that they deeply *know* the things such an education represents, but rather that they've been successful at passing tests.

  • DEGREES > CERTS end of STORY.....

  • always wondered what he says at the end... bleet ya later?

  • @Matty6660 its "e ya later"

  • @lanswipe

    What does that mean?

  • @Borisyoch its a corruption of "see ya later" its "e ya later", thats e asin emails or e-commerce...cos hes a geek :)

  • @lanswipe

    "thats e asin emails" - what is this?

  • @Borisyoch instead of see ya later, like people usually say - beceause and he uses electronic stuff, he says "e ya later" the "e" standing for "electronic"

  • don't waste your money, you don't need microsoft certification to get a job. you want more education? get a technical degree in something like computer science or engineering. 

  • microsoft certification for what? i've never hired anyone with microsoft certification because we don't use their shit.

  • I disagree. I run my own IT corporation (software, design, multimedia) and we don't even consider Microsoft certified professionals.

    a) We use open platforms (Linux, PHP, mySQL)

    b) Microsoft certified professionals are usually overpaid, snobby nerds, who work on closed platform that only has like 10-15% market share

    I think having certification in programming or any other IT field is a good thing, but I just don't like MS professionals. Worked with a few (worked... past tense).

  • @bathellfire we don't hire those idiots either because we our applications aren't built on that shitty closed platform...

  • Not always the case. I also hope you are qualified to be giving such advice. If so, great work, if not - people why are you asking some random person for life changing advice - think about it.

  • It definitely depends on the certification itself. Being a "Microsoft Power User" doesn't mean you know how to program in C or Java, for example.

    Something at least a MCP or higher do help with your salary when you do get that job.

    Microsoft Certifications speak more than the various MBA programs (many of which frankly are not worth the paper they're printed on).

  • Go the academic route (degree, Masters).

    If not available then get MCSE training etc paid for by the company you work for.

    Don't pay out of your own pocket. It's very expensive and without work experience backing up an industrial qualification you'll probably end up in a junior role if you're lucky, meaning national minimum wage. With a few thousand to pay back.

    been there, done that, got the t-shirt

  • stick-to-it-ive-ness? or stick-tuitiveness? lol

  • and knowing is half the battle...

  • if you need to ask this question, you problaby need more XP anyway

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  • lol such a nerd and a virgin

  • @SirLawlDuck He has a wife...and he has more money than you do...and he's most likely smarter...and more popular...haha poor you, no wonder you're "trolling".

  • the test should be a do-or-die test.

    Meaning it should be live, not on paper. or at least it should be both and the live portion should carry more weight on the grading scale.

    Their are people with a zillion certifications who don't even know more than me.

    Geek squad has plenty of certified dummies.

  • i wanted to ask this question good video keep making them!

  • Some people cheated on MS cert. test..Wat about them????Sometime miss just the cover of certification.They may be fake or watever....

  • the problem with Microsoft Certs is that most people find these cracked practice test programs and just take them over and over until the can pass them. Then they go and take the real test and pass with flying colors. So we have another "Paper Certified Tech" with no actual experience and they totally suck as technical professionals. Certs are great but actual hands on experience is better.

  • @TheTechInAllThings then there are people who have exceptional troubleshooting skills,problem solving,decision-making, and even ARE experienced in performing most of the technician tasks,

    BUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

    may fail the test simply because they didn't know some useless questions that were merely thrown in to satisfy creator's need to prove they are the "geek-y-est".

    I am damn good and would've failed the practice a+ because of some small questions despite knowing most of the important stuff

  • thumbs up for anal fisting

  • did microsoft certificate help me to get good job

  • FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAG

  • @Best2FreshWorld So is your mother.

  • It gets you in the door for an interview. What you do at the interview is up to you.

  • were u at vidcon chris?

  • The audio is killing me.

  • who has 20 certs?

  • I got the IC³ Internet and Computing Core Certification when I was 14 it was sponsored for me by the Arbeitsamt (I m German)

  • Will having Microsoft Certifications help me to find a job for working in Apple? :D

  • @chunhon348 You'll know ways of harming the competition. It will make apple hire you one the spot!

  • Why do you have so many pillows?

  • I think getting a hands on experience should be more prioritized than just getting those certificates up in your resume. In fact those certificates requires you to have a hands on experience in that area.

  • 100%

  • thumbs up for the 5 people who missed the like button

  • @austgyu when i am typing, i dont really use perfect grammer if its not that important

  • @endlesstutorials

    Oh, but it is important.

    You could mess up really well if you do not type what you mean.

  • excuse my grammar, typing on a phone!

  • Sorry Chris i dont fully agree with you on this, you have missed "experience", i started in a companys IT department when i was 18 on the phone at a service desk. I stuck with it and gained training and experience in various different roles, server management,desktop support,server management,SQL developer i'm 28 now and started my new job as a senior TDA for Business intelligence i got the because of my experience and achievements, not because of the grades on my CV. but HARD WORK DOES PAY OFF

  • I don't know if Chris will make a video about this..

    But I really don't know what kind of direction I want to be going with my life I've dreamed about many things but in the end always found out that I don't qualify for those directions.

    I really hope Chris can help me out with this.. since I'm stuck about this decision since high school 21 years old now having 2 diplomas I don't want to spend the rest of my life delivering newspapers and being online all day doing nothing productive.

  • I would pick the one who is hotter :P (if it's a girl)

  • Probably the one with no education. We all have to be fare to everyone. Lol

  • Are you traveling or something? It looks like your in a hotel room.

  • I'm get Microsoft certified with an associates degree in IT. I plan to work directly for Microsoft or any large company such as HP, Sony, Dell, or a school and take as head of server support for any place that needs a server set up provider. All in all, I think my associates degree in IT and Microsoft certification will land me a job where I make some big dollar amounts.

  • WWCPD

  • NO ONE HARASSES CHRIS!!! HE IS GOD!!!

  • Thanks for answering my question Chris ;)

  • man u r awesome ..i like the part u say "One thing they cant take away from u is....wat u have(ur knowledge)"

  • I used to manage auto mechanics who had ASE certifications. Then I found out you could easily cheat to get certified or just buy the shirt patches. I see people on Craigslist who say they are certified (one even had a degree) and when I ask them basic computer questions they cannot answer them. I think it's going to be the same way with computer certifications if not already (a padded resume).

  • is every1 the 307th? thumbs up if you are

  • Your latest videos = Audio fail & Homo bedside fail

  • @cremerdude Your mother making me orgasm= fail. Wait, no, that wasn't a fail, that was a win. Your mother gives great blow-jobs.

  • @roxxas5 So i have heard :D.

  • youtube redesigned annotations! lol.. just noticed x]

  • Its who you know, not what you know...especially in this shit economy.!

  • i think youtube is messed up :O

  • guys go 0:29 and pause it its hilarious his face

  • sometimes you can be rejected for being "over qualified." So extra education is not *always* a good thing!

  • Chris shouldn't Vlog from his bed. It just looks wicked Gay. If I wanted to watch gay I'd download Brokeback Mountain. But I don't.

  • I'll "E you later" Mister!

  • I'm doing this after high school next year before i go to college =)

  • i hope u r having the life that u r not regretting to live because u r hell of a smart guy Chris

  • If only HR knew that most certified technicians have no real experience, and they all pass their test by studying braindumps.

  • Where would I go about getting Microsoft Certifications? Im currently going through ITT Tech so I can work at Microsoft and quit Mcdonalds :)

  • @Johnnyboyinthehouse ITT tech is a rip off

  • I think he is on vacation and in a hotel room(I think)

  • just yesterday I applied for a computer job ad they asked if I had Certification

  • Say one was Cisco-certified?

  • What's with the videos in bed all of a sudden?

  • @TheZman78 thats what i was just wondering. what was wrong with the previous setup?

  • lol got enough urls???

  • identical cvs (or resumes) except one has more certs? I would hire the one with more certs if thats all I had to go on. however interviewing both candidates might make me change my mind.

  • chris, turn your mic up. netbook speakers are not very good!!!

  • ill go with the black guy so I don't get sued

  • I like your videos keep up the work man I am going to share what I know soon on I do do tutorials on this channel but I like to do more also I have another channel that I like to do more than just tutorials since that is what I do on this account.

  • but which certs are worth more or are more respected?

    i've heard some comptia certs are pretty worthless and that a cisco cert would look better on my resume.

    any truth in that?

  • what about the guy with 10+ years experience with no certs and then the new guy no real experience but has his certs?

  • What better fireFox Extensions Or Google Chrome Extensions? Plz Say In Your next video

  • don't go to far making videos in your bed

  • @coked007 thats because he's somewhere interviewing for a job i believe. whereas, you couldnt even begin to make a resume.

  • @coked007

    I believe he is in a hotel.

  • @coked007 : It stops air getting into ur mac, and Frys everything inside.. Fact! And not covered by apple care...

  • people, he said if all things were equal he would take the person with more certs, so if the position was down to 2 people, you, or you with more certs, who would you choose?

  • get off your bed chris lmfao

  • @willmax95 But the bed is the most fun place to make videos in a hotel room xD

  • MS Certs are good, but there generally things that you get AFTER you've been in the workforce for 2-3 years. Prior to certification, I think you'd do well to build up your portfolio of applications. In many cases, that's enough proof that you know what you're doing. People can rote learn a bunch of cheat sheets to pass their exams and still fail in the real world.

  • @cybersphere

    Well said.

    What you know is more important than a grade. Back in 97 when I was in tech school I didn't really care what I got as a grade, but if I got something wrong I wanted to know what the correct answer was, or why I was wrong.

    :P

  • I would go with one without certifications,but Im not businessman

  • Why Microsoft? Apple + Iphone 4 issues = Press Conference tomorrow. this just in IOS 4.1 just released download it now!!!

  • Certs mean absolutely nothing to any real IT Admin. Experience is the key. Same with a college degree.

  • Get a life!

  • i LIke that you are making these videos on the bed :P its soft!:D

  • i bet this guy is still a virgin

  • @RelevanceProductions

    Judging by the fact that he is married and lives with his wife, I'd say he is probably not a virgin.

  • @RelevanceProductions y would you need to go there?

  • @RelevanceProductions He's been married a couple of times. His current wife is a fox.

  • I must strongly disagree. The information provided by this individual from his bed, is only general. The nature of the "other education" is of paramount importance. For instance, when the IT job I was applying for went into the third round of interviews, my interests in amateur proctology combined with my (highly acclaimed) sculptures made entirely from human waste and my volunteer work at the Church Of Satan....didnt go over well with upper management. A pity. But learn from this.

  • Microsoft Certifications means you are a good little hoop jumper.

    But I agree most HR departments are looking for key words and fluff.

    But here is the real truth... If you have a ton of Microsoft Certifications that means you are spending the current company you are working for time studying for the certification and neglecting actual real work.

  • @batfly

    I see this all the time... Especially in the software development field.

    Developers proudly boast their technical prowess with the latest and greatest tools... And yet their productivity is nil.

  • take the guy with more work experience over pieces of paper every time

  • Holed up in a hotel for days . . . Chris is now closer to becoming the "Howard Hughes" of Geeks.

  • @TheNewYorkPete Dude, that shit was hilarious and so true.

  • Back in 00 took every Mcert I could, finished them all up and went as far as even getting my (Cisco) CCNP... Everyone wanted a Degree around 00 so Certs were nearly worthless for my average expected salary. So... I went back into the military and did 5 more years. Now I'm out and in Med School. Odd how things work out.

  • I don't believe they do..I had a cert by microsoft didnt help at all..

  • @jayde1ash thats easy to say but maybee the cert was the only good thing... dont realy think that but i'm just trying to make a point here.

  • If I was an employer I would give everyone a some form of test... I hate how people assume... no cert, no knowledge.

  • Im just about to the MCDST and MCP exams, i have one tomorrow :D

  • Whats up with the audio its so low I need to put my speakers to MAX in order to hear you fine Chris

  • thumbs up if your the 307th viewer

  • @endlesstutorials why? Looks like I'm the 307th views. what does it mean to be the 307th?

  • @royalconcrete1 im 308 (i guess it means nothing)

  • @royalconcrete1 it stays at a random number for a while then the views get higher...its a joke everyone does on lockergnomes videos

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  • @endlesstutorials 5 hours later, I'm still the 307th view xD

  • @endlesstutorials haha im the 307th viewer. Hella random I read your comment then I looked up at the Views and it was "307" awesome bro!!

  • So it is a good thing to become certified in Adobe things then?

  • EXCUSE ME MR. CHRIS... CAN I HAVE A JOB PLEASE!!! SERIOUSLY !!!!

  • @ganmanG Mr. Chris? Chris isn't his last name....

  • @braddudeguy Ok...Mr. Chris Pirillo...oh yea srry for the Caps! I know he hates it! :)

  • you advertise too much

  • your cool. You remind me of the leader of the GEEK HOUSE on American Pie Beta House

  • Chris (in this video) looks like one of those "pay for chatting" webcam sluts. I mean the whole scenery just fits that description, the bed, the laptop, Chris' position on the bed, etc. :D

  • U FORGOT LOCKERGNOME

  • I tried to apply at Frys for a summer job. I had 3 certifications. Comptia Strata, Comptia A+ and comptia net+. Above average GPA.

    Didn't get the job. Not even a sales person.

    But, the kid next to me, from school, got the job. He got a technician job, only had a OSHA 10hour certification..Average GPA.

    I lost faith in mankind.

  • @Teldara was there an interview?

  • @Teldara That falls more on the employer not understanding who and what he really needs. Employers look more at if someone has went to school and if they have a degree in something instead of worrying about if the person can actually do the job or not. At the end of the day a degree is just a piece of paper. Its the skills they take that really matter. You should have been hired over a kid who only took a 10 hour course. Not getting that job maybe left you open for a better one somewhere else.

  • When it come's to I.T certification's, both experience and certifications should be used together, of course if you only have certification's then getting an entry job and starting from the bottom shouldn't be too hard.

  • @hexem2k i resent that...well..according to the state you're in.. ;s

  • No doubts that more education really helps you getting a job but we should forget that experience also really counts. :)

  • @t3st3 Experience counts even more.

  • you should always start with the Comptia A+ certification

  • chris is a microsoft certification

  • I go to the only Microsoft certified high school in the world, and I'm a Microsoft Certified Application Specialist. As well as (not Microsoft) Comptia A+ certified. This coming year I will be given the chance to obtain 2 Cisco certs: CCNA (Cisco certified Network Associate) and CCENT (Cisco certified Entry level network technician) as well as Comptia Net+. And in my junior and senor year, I have the chance to obtain MCSA (Microsoft Certified Systems Administrator) as well as some Server 2008.

  • Chris i applyed at mcdonalds and they said i was over qualified

  • @Dot2TheLock It's 'applied', you obviously aren't that qualified. 

  • @TO3NA1L LMAOO!!!! Mc Donalds WIN...hahaa

  • Just one word might not get you the job, the word is called overqualified.

  • @ZwittyD Nuff' said. LAWLz :-P

  • @ZwittyD there's no such thing anymore

  • The funny thing is, the guy who did not know anything got the job because he knows the boss...or his dad or his friends mom who was his 3rd grade teacher who was also friends with the guys mom who plays bingo with your granny. or something like that.

  • @WozTech its called networking l2rl

  • @Dot2TheLock its called BS lol. I don't care who you know. It should be what you know. I know this is not reality but i'm just saying

    BTW: what is l2rl? learn to ? and there is no need to be cocky about anything this is a friendly chat.

  • If you have more certifications you have more of a chance :) as you said

  • Like the angle. Chris Joe Pirillo.

  • "More education = more opportunity." You summed it up perfectly in one line.

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  • change the bed sheet.

  • If everything was equal between the two, I'd go with the person without certification. If the person without certification could accomplish the same thing, without the push of instructors, that shows major evidence of initiative, persistence, diligence, genuine interest, and the most important trait of all... PASSION. The chances of this person creating something worthwhile for your company are dramatically raised. On the other hand... People like this usually aren't the ones looking for jobs ;)

  • @thecinemaoferic Unfornately not all see it like that.... I am currently trying to get into the IT industry as I am tired of where I am now. I am finding it hard because even though I would have no problems in the jobs I am applying for, I am probably overlooked due to what I have on paper which is not alot. I am pretty confident that I shall find somewhere at some point...

  • @k1llmebill You'll find it, for sure. Just make sure that you stick with it and don't forget the power of networking, delightful acquaintances, and genuine friendship. I do hope you find your way successfully within your endeavors, sir/madam!

  • Great video, very informative.

  • Chris this is a topic i always wanted you to do. Well done. If you had to do a Microsoft certificate which one will you do most likely?

  • Neat video, Chris. Do you have a Microsoft Certification or for that matter any Mac Certification? You seem very knowledgeable and just wondering if you have either of these.

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