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  • Jenna from Pretty Little Liars <3

  • This is why I will NEVER understand Kane and Kirsty.

  • What is the episode numbber ? pleasse im desperate !!!

  • @HPemio101 3049 and its up

  • for historical reasons,did this air 1:25 rte 1? because it didn't half six

  • this aired 9-11 in ireland

  • This is exactly why I found it really difficult to relate to and enjoy the later storylines with Kirsty and Kane. You don't just forget that someone did that. And it was SO unrealistic. I have two sisters, and I'm much more likely to kill someone who hurt them then I am to bloody marry them. It would never happen. Especially not if you were witness to the whole ordeal like Kirsty was.

  • @NewCorrieeps Yeah it was great storylining after that but still. Pretty harsh for Dani.

  • What is the ep like the number i want to watch the with out the edit things

  • The fact that she took a bath could maybe insinuate that maybe she was rape. Not enough proof though so just keep everyone with their own opinion

  • Dani looks like Selena Gomez!

  • @vgirls2008

    yeah there is a resemblance

  • i never figured out if kane actually raped dani or just sexually assaulted her.. can anyone help me out?

  • they were meant for eachother

  • Home and away is fucking stupid.

    Did they even insinuate that Kane rapes Dani? No.

    "Ohh this boy kissed me and felt my boobies and now I'm emotionally scarred for life!

    Big fucking deal.

  • @SynestthesiaX I was thinking the same think. Did he rape her or not? If he only kissed her and touched her than she is being dramatic.

  • in real life the chicks dad would of murdered the guy

  • Kanes an ass!! its been ages and I still hate him

  • id rape her ass anyday

  • i used to luvv dani wen i used to watch dis wen i was yunger loool i was wat 6 or 7 years old... <3

  • All they showed was Kane kissing Danni and Danni telling him to "stop it" and the next thing Danni is sulking......and we're to believe Danni was "assaulted" so badly like she thought it was the end of the world??

  • Kane's a pervert...How did he get away with this again?

  • Hes a lucky man, Tamin and now christy hayes!

  • @HateFenians

    Moron, when you rape someone, that doesn't count as if you've dated them.

  • He never raped her, she made a pass at him and she invited hm onto her then she regretted it.

  • @HateFenians

    FFS, surely you must be saying that to piss me off, nobody is retarded enough to misunderstand a storyline so badly

  • She was horny, she was playing hard to get in other episodes before that happened.

    Plus bits of this episode was cut out by the uploader, cos when I saw she was flirting with him when her ma was helping him out.

  • Prove it and I will be a nice fella, then I'll say you were right all along.

  • @HateFenians

    For people of normal intelligence, watching the show is proof enough.

  • Kirsty and Kane relationship was just sick, honestly dunno HAA is thinking sometimes!

  • I Remember This Episode Too Well :) My Favourite Era, Not My Favourite Sotryline Though - Poor Dani

  • >MisterShaq7427 Poor Danni nothing, they were only kissing??

  • did it show anymore?

  • is this episode edited or was it like this orginally cos i never saw this episode, the 1 that snowballed nearly 4 years of a storyline...

  • it is edited . with just the parts with kane and dani .

  • @bubblegum4909 this episode (3049) was supposed to air on 9-11 in ireland. does anyone remember if it did? 125 rte 1(certainly not at half 6 rte 2) or skipped or what.exactly.  4 years of storyline .

  • @bubblegum4909 maybe they weren't dong the weekend omnibus then?now you know they didn't actually show anything and why the years of flashbacks didn't show anything. it ends abruptly(see full episode)

  • kirsty shudnt have got with kane thats like fact and sense but i'm glad she did because home and away was better with kirsty and kane and all the tention over those 4 years

  • that bitch i cant believe did dah omg its just a tv show lolz

  • See tbh idk wot u fink is rite bout kirsty n kane after this but u no ollie is adorable n kirsty is over kane but ollie the adorable kid came out of it so hu cares whether it wos kane hu fathered him or not ( I don't really no wot the conflict is bout so move on)

  • I agree with TotalKnockoutDiva. Kirsty Should have never gotten with Kane after what he did to Dani!

  • @cityfolkferal no shit man but i'm glad she did because kane one was of the best characters over this decade no doubt

  • I don't care what anyone else thinks,and I know you can't help who you fall in love with, but Dani had every right to react how she did to K&K's relationship, he raped her, forced her to have sex with him, and he then went on to have a relationship with her 15 year old little sister (that was exactly how old Kirsty was when she and Kane started their relationship), I would completely disown Kirsty if she was my sister.

  • Selfish is going out with your sister's rapist.

    Dani had no choice in what happened to her, she was forced, Kirsty was not.

  • That's your opinion, I stick with mine, Kirsty was wrong and Dani was right.

  • I suggest you learn to accept that other people have opinions that don't match yours.

    Have a nice day.

  • And your opinion doesn't mean that you're right either.

    I am entitled to my opinion, as are you, I happen to disagree with your opinion, and you happen to disagree with mine, that's a part of life, I've accepted it, I think you need to as well.

    I'm not the one resorting to insults based on a person's personal opinion and age, I think maybe you should take a look at your own attitude before you comment on others'.

  • I assume you don'y have siblings or at least are not very close to them. i f your sister was raped you would not even be able to look at her rapist without feeling disgust never mind shack up with him. The whole story was unrealistic. I have never heard of anything like this happening in real life. Anyway chillax its just a Soap

  • @00AppleBlossom00 i agree with mostly eveything u said altho its very possiable that it could happen in real life a similer thinkg happen to someone i know

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  • Wow, your lying knows no bounds. I have NO çontacted' you in ANY way apart from on here. You clearly have notifications on and receive emails notifying you when new posts are being made. That is an automatic funtion from YouTube. So its either you have confusing YouTube automations with me PERSONALLY contacting you, or you are lying again, in order to defend yourneeding to delete your posts out of backtracking and embarassment. I'm doing this for other readers.Please discontinue lying about me.

  • Well, well, well. This time I AM contacting you personally. I found it! I found the PROOF. There is a clip that shows after Fisher went off at him, he went back in to Fisher and said that he really didn't mean to hurt her, he genuinely thought she wanted it. AND, Fisher even said Ï know Kane (he KNEW Kane didn't mean to hurt Dani). Fisher encouraged him to go on with his education elsewhere. On the way out, Kane saw Dani and said "I'm really sorry Dani, I didn't know. I'm so sorry".

  • The EVIDENCE can be found at Forbidden Delights: Kane and Kirsty - kane and kirsty etc its an official domain under clips under 2001. Directly under 'Scenes from Kane's obsession with Dani', its clip number 027.

  • I have a FANTASTIC memory when it comes to Home and Away and particularly KK, and I knew damn well I was right and you were lying and making it up as you go along. Unfortunately for you, you were found out and you knew it, which I guess, is why you removed those posts. To cover your tracks from making up your 'version'of the events. Even though we both know you haven't the decency or common courtesy nor maturity to apologise - Don't worry, apology accepted.

  • how come they couldnt say rape back then?

  • It was a G-rated programme (still is, I think) and they couldn't say 'rape' in that timeslot. Silly, I know. It has lead to SO many misunderstandings because younger viewers thought he merely assaulted or hit her.

  • kane did change and danni forgave him

  • Yep, he did change. And eventually moved on and accepted Kirsty and Kane, but it took her long enough, even though she went to counselling and had apparently left at peace then. Only to change her mind later and chuck a tanty. The irony of Kirsty supposedly being 'selfish' when Dani kissed her own uni lecturer and cheated on Scott, and then lied about it to police. Kirsty and kane when through hell because of Dani's self-centredness. Dani should have apologised to KK for being an obstacle.

  • hey i use to own the exact same top that dani is wearing in the clip it was all the rage in about 2001

  • what i don't get is that if my sister was raped by a guy why the hell would i date the man and marry him and have a kid by him??? kirsty is a bad sister!

  • Um, because they fell in love and TRULY loved each other! You cannot help who you love, honey. Kirsty was not a bad sister. She even stayed in Summer Bay and refused to go away with Kane (per DVD Hearts Divided) because of what it would do to Dani. Kirsty was very thoughtful, yet Dani only thought about herself and didn't appreciate the SACRIFICE Kirsty was making for her. I know who was the 'bad sister'and it certainly was not Kirsty.

  • soooooo you would be ok with your SISTER going out with, marrying and having a child with the guy that raped you??? are you fucking nuts!!!

  • I would hope that I wouldn't be as narrow-minded as you and carry a grudge against someone who made one mistake years ago. If my sister was truly in love with him, I would not be selfish enough to stop true love simply because of ONE mistake. I would be mature enough to move past it, see that people change, and that my sister and even the guy deserve a chance at happiness. I guess I'm more mature, more realistic, more open and less narrow-minded and judgemental than you though.

  • you seriously need your head checked out as no SANE person who ever be ok with anyone they know let alone their sister going out with the man that RAPED them!!!

  • Did NOTHING I said to you sink into your thick head? YOU are the one who needs your head checked. YOU are one who thinks someone who made one mistake can't be forgiven and redeem themselves. If you stop true love just because you can't move past one mistake, then you are an extremely selfish, sick bitter and vengeful person who is seriously ill and needs help. Grow up and truly THINK about what you are saying.

  • @Salemaniac1 so what you are saying is anyone who has been sexual assulted and holds that grudge is not mature? You haven't got a the first idea about it at all have you?

  • im not making excuses for kane but danni did lead him on!

  • so what if she lead him on it doesn't change the fact that she kept on saying no!

  • Thats the whole point! She did NOT say 'no'! She HERSELF, said this in court. She did not say no!

  • She didnt no?? did they actually show the rape cause here all it showed was dani pushing kane away.

  • Nope, they didn't show the rape or Dani saying no.

  • Let me ask a question then, do you think if dani had of said no then kane would have stoped? or do you think dani didnt say no because she actually enjoyed it? whats your opinion.

  • I have no doubt Dani was raped and she had my sympathies for that. I'm not disputing that she was raped, she clearly was. And she clearly did not want it. I was just clarifying for a couple of people below who said that she said no, thats all. I wasn't disputing that he raped her. To answer your question, I don't know. I think he still would have raped her. And he still would have been wrong. The difference to me; is in the intent. I.e maliciousness, or really not meaning to rape her.

  • Thanks for being rational and reasonable. Its good to debate with people who are mature enough to discuss the facts rationally without being deceitful and desperate to prove a point by have to resort to twisting and distorting the facts as seen in the episodes to save face. So thanks. :)

  • Well i only ever saw the story line from when kirsty started secretly seeing kane, and i was 11 at the time so i never actually knew what kane was supposed to have done and i was quite irritaed at how everyone was acting so hostile to him. I dont really care either way, this show is not an accurate depiction of reality, and i really hated both those characters anyway.

  • and as well as that i mean did kane use a condom? and did dani have to take a pregnancy test??

  • im sure dani would have put im some kind of resistance unless she went into complete shock which can happen.

  • no way she didnt at all....no means nooooo

  • Yes, she did. She was using him to make Will jealous. Check out earlier episodes. And no may mean no, but Dani never actually said 'no'. Dani admitted this herself.

  • Kane and Dani actually looked cute together when they first kissed in this video.

    I think if Kane had actually went to jail for raping Dani instead of getting away with it and then come out of jail a reformed character, getting with Kirsty after that then their relationhip would be easier to accept and understand.

  • i wish i had 2001 - 2004 on dvd it sucks how i cant get them h&a is shit now

  • i so can't belive what kane did im still in shock x

  • which episode is this??

  • They are from episodes 3049 and 3050 (:

  • it would be great if you could get this whole ep up

  • omg does that one play stacey from east enders?

  • no not at all!!! that's so wierd though they look a bit alike

  • Man this is sooo old. Haha, wierdest story line ever though; guy rapes your sister, you marry him. Hmm righto.

  • @beccajanne

    Kisty is a dumass.............

  • I missed this and I never miss an episode. I wondered if they showed the assult. I believe this actually aired 9/11 in Ireland

  • where did you the clips from?

  • they should of filmed a bit more of it as you didnt get to see how aggressive the character was suppost to be.

  • Did he just forcefully kiss her or was there more to it than that?!

  • He raped her which is why it was then so unbelievable that Kirsty would have then fallen in love and had a child with him. What is worse is that, thanks to the writers, many viewers actually supported their relationship and thought Dani and the other Sutherlands were being unfair by trying to keep them apart. Sick.

  • Kane shouldn't have to pay for that mistake forever. He also did a lot of good things, like save Shelley's life, & rescued the Sutherlands when they fell down that mineshaft. It really pisses me off how no one wants to remember all the good things he did. Yeah, the story's a bit far-fetched, but the show is about redemption of 'baddies'. That is what Home and Away is about. Irene, Nathan, Aden, its ALL ABOUT redemption & giving people second chances. As for Dani, she was always a spoiled brat.

  • Kane never did pay for the rape, that is the point. he got away with it. Rape is a serious issue and suggesting that everyone, including Dani should have just forgotten about it because Kane pulled a snake off Shelly is one of the reasons I hated the storyline. I work with rape victims, many of whom never fully recover from the experience and so the idea of anyone viewing a rapist as a 'good guy' is repellent.

  • True, he didn't go to jail like he should have. However from the harassment and hounding he got form the town, & no one ever suffered that much, not even armed robber Nathan Roberts or Dodge, I believe that made up for it. Writing the good Kane did by merely pulling a Snake off Shelley because it doesn't fit your need to be unforgiving, to me, is repellent. As someone who works with victims, you should know that forgiveness is the key, for victim & attacker. The attacker has a life sentence too.

  • For many rape victims, the key is seeing the person who hurt them be punished for their crime. Forgiveness is something that many never manage to attain as they are frankly far too scared and messed up to ever get to that point. Anger is what many of them feel and continue to feel. As for the idea of the unpunished rapist living a life sentence, I suggest you actually read up as the subject as I have no idea how you have come to such a conclusion.

  • Clearly you are not thinking realistically, in fact, youa re not thinking at ALL. What I said, is only COMMON SENSE. When a rapist rapes - he has to LIVE WITH WHAT HE DID, FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE. Guilt etc, he also gave HIMSELF a life sentence. If you bothered to actually COMPREHEND and *THINK* and ponder that, you would have understood. As a counsellor, I can assure you those that don't move past anger have a disfunctional life.

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  • Wow, you are so immature. Its called EMPHASISING. In absence of a 'bold' function on here. You are so OBSESSED with the fact that Kirsty taking up with Kane. Why is it so personal to you? You are the one who needs to run your wrists under a cold tap. This is clearly very personal to you and you obviously have issues. And yet AGAIN, you PROVE you never WATCH or COMPREHEND the episodes. Kane truly thought Dani ran him over and that is what it truly looked like. Yet lying seems to be your mo.

  • Well see the thing is i don't think your crimes should define you for the rest of your life. Obviously once the crime has done it can never be erased from time, and will probably haunt the victim for a very long time unless they get professional help and therapy.

  • Kane lied about the rape, resulting in Dani having to go through a harrowing court case only to see her attacker get away scott free. If Kane had paid for his crime I would totally agree that he shouldn't be defined by it but as it was he never did.

  • You really need to get your facts STRAIGHT. Kane did not "lie"about the rape; he truly GENUINELY thought she wanted it. If he raped her at knifepoint and KNEW it was rape, that would be different. But, according to what he said MANY times if you had watched, he honestly truly thought she wanted it. It was still rape, yes, but he didn't 'lie', at all! He misinterpretted. Also, the amount of good he did, saving people, and the abuse he copped, he paid for it more than if he had went to jail.

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  • I suggest you do that. Because he NEVER DID ADMIT SUCH A THING. In FACT, he told his counsellor Flynn, that he TRULY BELEIVED she wanted it. AND, when he was expelled, he went around to the Sutherlands in tears after he came to the realisation of what he did. He TRULY thought it was consensual, and the EPISODES PROVE THIS, not your lies, miscomprehension and distortions. Clearly you are not mature enough to debate without insults, lies, omissions and distortions.

  • I suppose if kane was that remoarsful and sorry for would he done, he would have just fucked off completely instead of getting it off with dani's sister! its clear from this video that kane was well aware of what he done, firstly forcing her to have sex, then not admitting to it, then getting it off with her sister, and then convincing kirsty to runaway with him. why would he put dani through all that if he was so sorry?

  • This video only showed the rape, and even then it didn't show it so how can you get that he was "well aware of what he had done" from this clip? The episode of where he left SBH and finally realised what he had done, and in fact if I recall correctly told Rhys at the doorstep Ï didn't realise what I did", proves it. He maintained he honestly and genuinely thought it was consensual, ALL along. That, is what the episodes SHOW. as to Kirsty, so in order to somehow 'prove' he was remorseful, he

  • had to abandon his OWN happiness? Look, he already tried that, when he drove Kirsty back to Summer Bay. So he did TRY. But he and Kirsty fell in love. ou cannot help who you love. When you love someone, you want to be with them. I fail to see how having Kane & Kirsty miserable seperately, would have made up for it. Everyone is so hung up on him being with Kirsty, but they truly LOVED one and other. Both deserved some happiness, and redemption. Why make an extra 2 people suffer for 1 mistake?

  • Right now, I'm trying to find the clip where Kane was expelled from SBH, and soon after comes to the realisation of what he truly did. He then goes to Summer bay House to try to speak to dani and apologise. Rhys of course, won't let Dani speak to him. Kane in tears, says he finally understands what he did and said he truly thought she wanted it, apologises and says something to the effect that he will be leaving town. Anyone know where it is, let me know. Just to clarify some lies being made.

  • And I have a far far better memory than you obviously, because I have exposed your lies, omissions & plain distortions of truth and fact, as shown in the episodes. You cannot debate, you insult, manipulate the facts as SHOWN on the episodes, and outright lie. You are hung up on Kirsty dating Kane, and hung up on erasing the FACT that he truly thought it was consensual, even though he has always maintained that, even went he went to the Sutherlands to apologise. Your past issues are clouding you.

  • Lastly, I can see your pain as I'm experienced with this. You truly need help. Perhaps then you will be less angry and antagonistic and too willing to see the bad in people.

  • Agreed. Kane gave 2 people life sentences. Dani; and himself. He will have to live with knowing what he did, every day for the rest of his life. Everywhere he goes, prejudiced people will judge him based on that ONE MISTAKE. That, is a life sentence. The good he had done saving people from minshafts, saving Shelley etc FAR, FAR, *FAR* outweighs his one mistake that he made, which he truly didn't mean to do and honestly thought Dani wanted it. Thank you for being a voice of REASON.

  • cry baby although rape is wrong people should get second chances if they can prove they are a good person he should of gone to jail though and then redeemed himself

  • He redeemed himself 5 times over, without even going to jail.

  • I hate the fact kirsty went out with and had a baby with kane - completley implausible and annoying. there's no way you could do that with someone who had done that to your sister.

  • They fell in love, got married, and then had a baby. People deserve second chances, and Kane redeemed himself enough to certainly deserve that.

  • Danni s So pretty. Kane is such a dick and nows he back hes still annoying

  • god brody is so weird every few years in home and away there seems to be annoying weird people brody, cassie and now melody WTFuck

  • and now xavier fraya and nicole and now belles annoying!

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  • That;s amazing I was 16 and my sister was 10 in 2001 LOL

  • so how did kane get off with it?

    and why is he now seen as a good character if he did that??

  • i hated kane for what he did to dani, but i am a huge fan of kirsty and kane!

  • it was early 2000's

  • weirdest storyline ever when Kirsty and Kane got together.

  • I remember this storyline quite clearly, a few weeks later Kirsty got lost with Kane in the bush, or something and then they got together, I thought it was rearly far fetched at the time. I stopped watching H&A about 2003. This must be around 2001 I guess.

  • did he rape her, or just assault her?

  • He sadly raped her, the show went out early evening so they didn't show it.

  • that is so sad. i got the impression from the dialouge that it was just like assault.

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  • Unfortunately, because of the timeslot they can't say yhe word 'rape' so they say 'assault' or 'sexual assault' instead. But from the dialogue and scenes, its fairly obvious what happened.

  • Well she had a shower and people generally who've been raped have a shower to cleanse away the dirt on them.

  • It wasn't just a few weeks later. It was after the court case and all, so pobably about 6 months after.

  • I've never ever watched h&a in my life... I only watched this because tammin is currently my #1 favourite soap actress because of y&r.. and it shows that she can do a lot more than give lily advice

  • dani was soOoOo distraught after this how could kirsty have done that 2 her? going off with kane!

    xXx

  • did he rape her?

  • yes

  • yes

  • Bring Kane back!!!

  • thanks so much for those clips, been wanting to see them again because i was quite young the first time round.

  • dani is so pretty

  • I remember not knowing what happened, I was about 6 at the time!!! I've been watching H&A Since I was Born!!!! I LOVE HOME AND AWAY!!!!!

  • Kirsty was such a selfish little brat getting together with kane after that happened to Dani.

  • she has grown up alot now

  • Wrong. She pulled back many times, because she didn't want to be selfish. She tried everything she could, but you can't help who you fall in love with. Kane saved several Sutherland's lives at least 3 times over, and STILL they wouldn't give him a chance. Now THAT is what I call selfish.

  • I'm pretty sure they were episodes 3049-3050.

  • WHOOOOOP i've been waiting to see this. Missed it the first time and was extremely confused about the following kane+Kirsty storyline

    thanks !!

  • poor Dani:( they could've seen that she had sex and not by her own will!!!

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