Professor Griff corrects Lenon Honor research errors and omissions

[almasdp]

mmh so we are supposed to believe that someone was way out there in the music industry made it big and it didn’t cost them anything?... whatever, up to everyone’s judgement.

i do not see how black men in uniform and with machine guns on their hands is a strong positive role model...? i fail to see it, that’s not a man that’s an animal, a coward scared dog, who hides behind a gun, we keep perpetuating this pathetic stereotype of what a man is and we will get nowhere.

[goatstaog]

the day you posted this, both Lenon and Griff did a radio show together. Did you not hear it?

[ThaFlyestMoor72]

@melvis because the masses don't listen,they follow trends only. Professor Griff is not a factor in there eyes because Strange Love and Flavor Of Love did what it supposed to do make an mockery of tje great work PE did in the eyes of tje new generation

[shenmueryu]

So much info going on out there seriously...and not even to bash anyone as they are entitled to their own opinions...but when you see these videos like this honor guy where he mixes truth hard down with his opinion and no source you get to think what the hell?

[tricey2300]

Professor Griff's purpose or what he is doing makes no sense and is meaningless. He is a whistleblower for the illuminati. He is a illuminati whore and puppet just like those stupid whorish singers

[Jayn0o]

Professor Griff screams in the mic and what he says is very unclear. I did not see or hear ANYTHING that proves his lyrical content wasn't straight shit. On the other hand when listening to Lenon Honor's documentary : Hip Hop the hidden hand and the degradation of masculinity Lenon ANALYSES the content of Professor Griff's lyrics line by line word by word. Very clear, very factual and easy to comprehend. This video proves nothing. Work harder...

[pointhimout]

y is Griff talking in that mic like that? he's killin my ears, even with the volume turned down. I'll have to hear more about Lenon and watch his clips. I'll say it again; Griff is a great teacher of info and breaking down/explaining his subject. When a person goes on and on and on, they end up repeating themeselves, so Lenon should work on that.

[DjJeffNess]

tha grif is deep.

[universeplayground]

i wondered what was up witht he baby face look....peace

[neilx666]

I've been banging on the iluminati since day 1 !! Yeah right u took the oath mofo just like every other music artist b4 u . There's a reason y Griff's allowed to speak on this stuff like this and it's not cause he's bringing truth to us all .I'm not following you !!! I don't follow any1 cause these people are not leaders .

[bertmarx]

@neilx666 i guess harriet tubman was in the illuminati too. elijah muhammad and farrakhan nobel drew ali, garvey.etc.. maybe some people just have balls. and arent scared and spooky like alot of people.. yall crack me up with all this shit

[neilx666]

@bertmarx i dont know nothing about those people but those in the music industry are all there cause they took an oath . Most will say it , some try and hide it . It just seems we're in a time where those who are bringing us the "truth" aren't really doing much of that or wouldn't they be deemed a threat by these people in power like others b4 them ??

[82Bdog]

@neilx666 what do you not agree with that he's said? Also what' up with your name?

[neilx666]

@82Bdog i just dont think someone who was in the music industry as deep as P.E. was didn't also take this oath . Why if these people are speaking the truth are they allowed to live ??? If these truths were such I believe this guy would be silenced . He could be controlled opposition like so many others out right now confusing and bringing us farther from the truth . He seems intelligent but with all this info coming at us it seems if they let u live you're not really saying much .

[rebelyell313]

May I ask some ques. about Griff? Is he a Christian? I am confused as to why he discusses God 9biblically) & goddess worship-Isis. Also, he practices eastern philosophies-Chakra energies. Thanks!!!!

[YAGIRLLUCCIONO]

Im a fan of GRIFF PERIOD!!!!!!!

[lsivels]

All them are agents......they give no solutions to the people but just form anarchy.

[neilx666]

Sometimes I feel the only true real truthers that were honestly out to bring this power structure down are the ones that are dead !! it just seems you're not a threat unless they want u taken out and when the iIuminati want you taken out we know it's not long til we read about it in their media!!!! Really how scared are the iluminati of you if they let you speak on "them" !!!

[rebelyell313]

@neilx666 I totally agree with you.

[Loadfaster]

@selhax ---- YOU ARE AN AGENT selhax..

[vman996]

The African history of Free Masonary Ha ha hah ah ha ha hah ah ha hah !!!!!!

What a fucking joke...

[Loadfaster]

@vman996 - I wish there was no freemasonry connection... But there is...

[liliokilani]

Interesting. But if the only way a black man can be a strong black man is with an uzi then there is a serious problem present. I prefer my men able to resolve conflict without automatic weapons aimed at innocent people.

[kaliyuta]

Lenon is obviously projecting his own issues about the black male image,with his own daddy issues.I think he's intimidated by Griff.

[cmberriTV]

well can someone explain the picture taking for the cover called Black Draft...that was kinda disturbing...

[Sprafikk]

@cmberriTV There was a movie called "Backdraft". It was about firefighters and fires and some say that the artwork for Griff's song "Blackdraft" was somewhat of a foretelling for the attempt to blow up/burn down Griff's house.

[MyFunzy]

Lenon Honor promotes positivity within the black community and clearly Griff is a fake for showing the guys house and invading a good father and family mans personal space... who's a role model for blacks. He got a little too angry if you know what i mean...

[DMAXXG]

@MyFunzy - you have 2 be one of the dumbest people alive! griff didnt make this video ediat sum1 else did! it CONTAINS footage of GRIFF! is that clear enough for u 2 understand! the person doin the voice over, clearly is not griff! the person who created this video put the guys house up! so dumb! pls in future analyse adequate! b4 postin stupid comments! I REALLY HATE DUMB PEOPLE!

[MyFunzy]

@DMAXXG ur retarded... grow a brain... he obviously had a guy film it for him u moron... ur so dumb...get off griffs nuts and stop being so ignorant!

[DMAXXG]

@MyFunzy - 1st suck ur mum! 2nd how is it obvious? was u there? did u here the convo of griff asking him 2 do it? dumb shit! stop talking out ur azz! FAGGOT!

[savior02]

Lenon Honor is the fucking truth! Are YOU following me??

[Ladysugarshaft]

@savior02 lol

[Ladysugarshaft]

I've never heard of this Lenon negro until today. But, even so, it's so obvious that he is an agent working for the devil. Seems like his mission is to deliberately discredit Griff.

[MyFunzy]

@Ladysugarshaft Hey Lenon is amazing and speaks the truth about hip hop... watch some of his documentaries before you judge him.

[MIDNIGHT1DEMO]

@Ladysugarshaft Yeah but Lenon makes some tight vids. Maybe Lenon just slipped up a little when he accused Griff. Take a look at some of the man's vids and see.

[keemkemo07]

this shit is swashed divide and conquer leads to destruction

[RedQueenWarrior]

But I agree, their music made one thing clear..."Unite & Fight the power"; and Honors vids are appealing but...when watching them I felt something was wrong. Too many vids always talking about one/two things fam & sex...without talking about human history and without giving tips for our future & that of our children. peace

[RedQueenWarrior]

It's not really clever to make a written introduction, and make a spelling error of their name, especially when the topic is sexuality. Makes the whole thing look like a joke... It's pubLic enemy and not PUBIC enemy.

[kirtrevans]

I got on lenon about this he stopped me from commenting on his page. Lenon honor just started acknowledging his self as a black man with this situation. He is just a another house ngga wait I bet he start talking about astral projection crystal light kids . He does has good videos but dont follow him just extract the info.

[karma312000]

Proffessor Griff never answered why that picture Blackdraft looked the way it did. Why was he being so threatening to Lenon Honor and his wife? None of this makes any sense. What Lenon Honor said in his research were strong conclusions about the music industry as I also know a lot about the marketing of music to the black community. With all of the "movements" we've had look at where we ended up. Lenon Honor backtracked on all that he said which has made me lose all respect in him.

[djnoblegbc]

@karma312000 If LH previously claimed that PG is controlled, then by his own logic, does that mean his public recanting and conciliation reveal his own initiation and submission to control?

[oatstao]

@djnoblegbc how can you trust his Public Recanting to be truthful? It's rhetoric on the pulpit of his

audience. Nothing more. to keep talking about his legitimacy just because he cites William Carrs book (the person who did the REAL work here) as his legitimacy point. Whatever. That's like saying you are god

because you read the bible. This is garbage and people..knock knock..wake up.

[djnoblegbc]

@oatstao My last comment was meant to be facetious.

[txgreendrop]

@karma312000 @karma312000 actually he did answer it clearly and concisely on video, what gets lost in these debates is that PE was part of the initial wave of national hip hop artists who were figuring out the music industry while the industry was trying to figure out how to control hip hop and its messagee while earning millions. Lenon's own lecture, that is 30b, makes the point that PE's conscious message became increasly stronger as they released

[txgreendrop]

@karma312000 continued ..........albums, I interpret that as as they were the winning the battles for the messages in their music.  Lets not forget that "Fight the Power" was released in conjunction with Spike Lees movie "Do the Right Thing", that song included one of the most direct anti-american hero messages to date at that point....."Elvis was a hereo to most, but he never meant shit to me see straight out racist the sucker was simple and plain, motherfuck him and Jonh Wayne."

[txgreendrop]

@karma312000 continued.......the album went on to talk about how none of our heroes appear on stamps, and directly knocked the hit song at the time, "dont worry be happy" by Bobby McFarrin etc etc. I just think Lenon didn't fully do his historical context homework...he had no basis to defend his conclusions. Finally his message is a 'johhny come lately' msg pointed at the wrong group, that, coupled with his constant donation requests put his motvies to feed his family up front and center.

[txgreendrop]

@karma312000 correction,,,,his video 3b-1, whihc has been removed from his site and youtube.

[oatstao]

@txgreendrop but the caveat here, is the fact the WHOLE industry of hip hop was following the same demographic commodity trend curve of "conscious" hip hop. It was not only P.E. and once we all start exposing more of the puzzle you will see it's not just PE who were demonstrating this trend. Although I do not fully support Lenons move to retract, but he obviously feels a bit under the weight of the corporate rain man. With a family at stake I support his move in that regard. The truth will hold

[oatstao]

@txgreendrop It's funny how he uses Chuck D as the scapegoat for his reason to sign to Luke, like he was the little boy lost, yet Griff is older than Chuck? There were hundreds of labels to sign to then and the motivation is Clear to anyone on LUKE the cocaine duke. Double forked tongue talk y'all.

[txgreendrop]

@oatstao he has stated that Luke was the only deal available at the time of that controversy - re his comments about the Jews. Are you saying it not likely that labels would have been avoiding him?

[djnoblegbc]

A little game of problem, reaction, solution.

[madJedi1]

bollocks i dont beleive a word PG says... its easy 2 make out u had nothing 2 do with the system years after the damage is done and people are waking up..

It was alright 4 you when u were earning off it PG, its only when u were droppped did u open your mouth... this is all tittle-tattle to keep us confused and a sly way to take down someone whose onto something

[djnoblegbc]

@madJedi1 This was just some "argument" between two FB friends.

[oatstao]

@madJedi1 his arguments are the weakest but most persuasive in their repetition of key words like "you following me" Low level mind control techniques which even had Lenon Honor going "YEAH" ???

[irongiant20012001]

@oatstao THat's no damn different than "Doyouknowwhatimsayin'?"

[djnoblegbc]

Check out "Critical Thinking Part 4" by InfamousJBlack99. Reveals that Lenon & Griff have been FB friends for over a year.

[oatstao]

@djnoblegbc I will check that out, thanks for the tip.

[aran08504]

Griff has called Pdiddy, Russell Simmons and others gay, called Beyonce a witch am not sure why what Lenon's research and assertions are any different. None of the folks he has featured in his video critiques have caused such as stir before now.  I don't think KRs1 has spoken out either. I just don't understand where all the uproar is about. Pdiddy has a family but folks don't care about how statements affect them.

[djnoblegbc]

@aran08504 That's a fair enough conclusion. Might I add that Lenon is probably not of any concern to KRS-ONE, nor should he probably ever hope to be. Remember PM Dawn? LOL

[djnoblegbc]

How can something be neutralized if not first infiltrated? There is no calculation in Lenon targeting someone who, for over 20 yrs, has been at the same thing he is, instigate by false accusations, then alter by not only trying to look like the good-guy but end up being the gate-keeper of info, as well? Did Machiavelli and Sun Tzu not write of such strategies? Are they more recently not in "The 48 Laws of Power"?

[deesince1985]

Lenon honestly had me dyiiiing of laughter...Its over, lol...but it was funny to me.....and if youre familiar with Lenon, u knew what was really going on & wut really took place......GREAT JOB LENON....Peace & Love @ Professor Griff & Everybody else.....

[djnoblegbc]

In ministries, the loss of credibility in one often hurts the credibility of all.

[txgreendrop]

I concur, the issue has been addressed by both, however Grif has to correct any misrepresentations, miscommunications, or misinformation re PE or himself. Honor made it clear he meant no harm but that does not mean harm was not done and needs to be addressed.

[bnthinkpositive]

This was a HUGE misunderstanding (on both sides). To be clear, Lenon's main goal was NEVER to "attack" PG. Both "men" already apologized to each other, clarified their points and committed themselves to continuing to spread “consciousness” (especially within the black community). Now, EVERYONE, please take an example from BOTH MEN, and let’s MOVE on! You don’t HAVE TO choose ONE or THE OTHER. You can choose BOTH (or neither)..the choice is yours.

[extractormann]

Lenon honor is the man...........