Wylene Wilson the truth about laying this horse down!

[coxfarms]

It doesn't matter what you do if a horse shows any resistance at all people will call it cruel. Ppl think all horses are born respectfully gentile and broke. I'm glad I found your video, I have one that I feel will benifit from being layed down and I haven't done it in a couple years now so I was on here looking at others do it getting prepared for today's chore. Thank you for your video

[gcoxalaska]

Wylene, You're the MAN! You're an awesome horseman, but my advice? Have this clip Taken this clip off YouTube, too many people don't understand and think it's cruel...

[szandi20]

you're a big idiot!! ;)

[120petya]

a kurva anyád te rohadt állat kinzó fasz ribanc

[deborahboganowski]

This is the Extreme Wylene Wilson from the Mustang Makeovers. She's extreme alright. An extreme idiot. Show her true colors. Fugly horse was correct. She is a piece of work.

[saminiky]

Is this the western way of breaking a horse? I ride english and I've helped with allot of problem horses and with breaking in young horses but I've never had a 'fight' with a horse like this. Ofcourse the horse will undergo a great change in attitude and willingness, it's been broken in his head, I really feel sorry for the horse.

[voodoo1234567891011]

Idiot!

[mustangsthree]

its also called flipping a horse or an endorphan tap. there is no harm done to the horses legs, if anyone says this does harm to a horses legs then they also have to be against jumping since it is done repetitivly with the added weight of the rider. in any event it does work and is a last resort technique. allthough the way we do it is a little different the end result is the same.

[wildmareproductions]

the worst place in the world". To take the feet away from an animal that depends on them is NOT something to be enjoyed. My husband is a "changed" man each and every time he finds it necessary to do this. He is solemn and quiet. It affects him emotionally very deeply. It's as much a humbling experience for my husband as it is the horse. It's one of those things in life you'd rather not have to do but rather than allow the horse to be a continual danger to himself or others...is wise!

[wildmareproductions]

There are many different schools of thought and practice when it comes to training a horse. I do not know Wylene. I've never heard of her before today. But I have seen horses laid down. My husband is a professional horse trainer and is very well respected. I am certain Wylene does not lay a horse down unless it is NECESSARY. This is NOT a practice that is an every day thing with an everyday horse! My husband will only lay down a horse as a last resort. He calls it, "taking the horse to

[CaliforniaBlonde000]

@spottedappy88 Actually, my dear sister is an educated large animal vet who studied at the second top vet school in the United States. I have helped her work with horses frequently. So yes, I do want to be a vet. And yes, I do know for a fact that bending a horse's knee to the extreme as she strains against it, and forcing her to pound all 1200 pounds of her weight onto the other front leg, will hurt her.

[dilys0000]

@CaliforniaBlonde000 Okay so thn you must also be against jumping and racing RIGHT? Jumping a horse jumps 3ft or MORE into the air and lands on one front leg plus the weight and imbalance of the rider added 2tht.. racing a horse again lands on 1front leg while being only 2years old and NOT fully developed plus weight of the rider plus being driven to bone breaking speeds....? NOT all horses respond to certain training methods and just like ppl some horses need a little more to understand tht all

[dilys0000]

@CaliforniaBlonde000 we want is for them to listen to us so that a bond can be created between horse and rider.. this is a very old method which has been used for years to calm horses tht just block ppl out I personally have yet to see any horse be harmed or have permanent damage from this, when it is done on the correct ground with a person who knows wht he/she is doing.. if Im not mistaken it was even used in the movie the Horse Whisperer

[akmclain]

We were getting a young horse from a family member that could hardly be touched. We laid him down, and everyone sat and loved on him. He softened like butter, and even lay there for a bit afterwards. He's the sweetest, friendliest horse going since laying him down. We used a different method, but I'm sure someone would find it cruel. If you watch the video closely, you see her release the pressure when the horse softens.

[jory84]

you're calling that not cruel. seeing a horse which is a fleet animal beeing yanked to the floor. Must be something wrong with you people. you're just not patient enough to break in a horse. 

[CaliforniaBlonde000]

I would never, EVER go to this trainer. I can only imagine what that technique is doing to the horse's joints, and she'll probably be sore and nervous around that leg for a long time. I find it disgusting that people actually pay money for this to be done.

[myartfuldodger1]

@CaliforniaBlonde000 I lay my horse down all the time, he was just started under saddle in the last 120 days and he had trust issues, after laying my horse down like this (this doesnt hurt but scary the first time) he now trusts me, he first saw me as someone scary trying to get on his back and attack him, horses are a prey animal,after we first got him on the ground we rubbed him, appriciated him. He then could understand that we werent going to hurt him,it gets easyier every time after this!

[myartfuldodger1]

@CaliforniaBlonde000 Wylene is not a mean/ abusive trainer! Shes one of the best horseman/ women you will ever find!!!!! You should understand how horses think and how this is a great trust and training tool before you just assume.........

[CaliforniaBlonde000]

@myartfuldodger1 I do understand how horses think, and therefore I understand that they don't forget a traumatic event like this. I disagree with laying a horse down at all, but even so, there are much less aggressive and damaging ways to do so.

[123456789mischief]

its a good training tool it works. we called it flipping theres an aussie who calls it an endorphan tap. the horse is not harmed it ids udusly done as a last resort. I would use it before I would use a gumline witch inflicts pain like some people resort to when they run into a dificult animal.

to wylene nice job very smooth amazing the differnce it makes isn't it?

[lyndawittig]

I have seen this done this way on many videos but i feel like this method only does one thing. Stroke the handlers ego. A horse can be trained to respect you without fear or man handling. Remember what every good trainer knows. Its all about pressure/release/body language. I was a big Wylene fan until I saw this video.

[88barrelracer]

Oh my goodness!! You tied his legs up!!!??? You are supposed to hold them. You could have killed your horse

[JudyHart1]

My trainer used something like this method for my spoiled gelding, worked miracles.  It's kinda scary when they go down, however, it really makes the horse think. You have to make sure the horse understands that you have ultimate power over them. They're like a piece of construction equipment without a safety switch. I'd rather have this done to them than have traction for myself (best scenario). We used to say that he was praying.

[rob1wifey]

I will say this in addition to my previous comments... Maybe this horse is a nutcase and a more "agreesive / though not abusive" approch had to be taken... I'd have to see if this is her standard method or just in response to behavior of this one...

[rob1wifey]

Interesting method but I'd much rather do it where the horse understands and isn't jumping about. Confused about what the hell is happening. Try taking a look Craig Cameron... Tell me which one lookes easier on the horse and the trainer. You can force a horse in 3 min or you can take your time and do it in 10 w/out such a display. Granted how cool does a horse being hobbled in mid air look... right. hmmm or something like that. She is known as a good trainer though. Just diff methods.

[rob1wifey]

Interesting method but I'd much rather do it where the horse understands and isn't jumping about. Confused about what the hell is happening. Try taking a look Craig Cameron... Tell me which one lookes easier on the horse and the trainer. You can force a horse in 3 min or you can take your time and do it in 10 w/out such a display. Granted how cool does a horse being hobbled in mid air look... right. hmmm or something like that. Why fight a horse when you can work with a horse.

[JEnnY3334]

oh and this isnt violent at all.. i havent tried this myself but i have seen the positive result of it. not everyone uses this method, but everyone has their own way and if it works, then thats great. its not violent or cruel at all.

[JEnnY3334]

i got my horse in august & she already trusts me enough to let me take her blanket off completely and sit on her while she is laying down. i think laying your horse down is a great way to gain trust with a horse that is hard to bond with. i know one horse that this would have been great for, because she was once abused and turned aggressive and would take advantage of anyone she could. she would charge me and try to buck me off when i NOTHING mean/cruel. but im just scared to try it this way lol

[herewefly]

Would never treat my horse like this but whatever, each his own

[iiHorseFreak]

laying down is great way to actually gain trust! It can take alot of trust for a horse to lay down with a human! this is one of many methods! and its not violent. :) Thanks for posting this!

-jor

[nanal01]

What the hell is wrong with you people? Just because the horse doesn't speak the same language as you do you think it's okay to frighten it into submission? I respect her relationship with horses, but if this is how she dose it, all respect I ever had for her is gone.

[rob1wifey]

@nanal01 I've heard good things about her... but this is rather "old-school" you could say. Think I may have to re-think my take on her. Atleast in this regard. I always figure I have all the time in the world afterall I'm going to outlive the horse anyway so why push and rush. I'd rather take 10 calm min then 3 frenzied ones any day...

[kdewitt655]

control freak.

[Skinnydrumma]

youre aboslutely shitting me. that was in NO way cruel; do you people know what the definition of cruel is? good god, it's a HORSE. you'd be eating them at mcdonalds if they moved as slow as a cow. animal rights can be taken to such a ridiculous level, and claims of cruelty in this video are well into the crazy zone.

[PartyXxXBoy]

Why did you put this on YouTube?

[gundogs89]

Well thats nice, Jasons coming home for a couple days. lol

[AnywhereButHere09]

Good show.....this is what the oldtimers always did to get the horse's attention & respect. No harm done at all. Horses are, after all, livestock not poodles. They certainly are not "nice & huggy" to each other in the wild are they?

Nice job, miss!

[squist29]

Therapists often make thier clients very upset or uncomfortable during sessions. This may be considered cruel to observers, however, the overall quality of life and ability to function is improved by the methods used. Allowing a horse to live in constant anxiety is far more cruel than causing it temporary distress.

[BarebackRider13]

Looks to me like she's just teaching the horse to give up...How is this training again? It looks really cruel and sad..

[yahamagirl160]

so thats how she does it!

[horsefeathrs]

I've done this before and have seen great results but you must NEVER take this kind of thing lightly. It CAN be dangerous to the horse. They can fall down just the right way and hit their head in just the right spot and bam....game over. The last time I did this was 4 years ago because I had exhausted ALL other options and was finally able to get through to a very very troubled horse using this method. This should NOT be your routine training method for all horses. Just my humble opinion t

[Nicole7Queshua]

To each his own. I guess I just feel that this is not the only way. I'd probably strangle any person who even thought about doing this kind of thing to one of my mares, but I have maybe a different kind of bond with them, and I don't ride western.

[chevygirl88]

Wylene's great. In my opinion, she has one of the best methods around.

I understand how those who are not experienced or knowledgeable in horse training might perceive this as "violent," but it is not. Bella435 is absolutely correct, Wylene wasn't fighting the horse, she was letting this mare "find the right answer." Once this horse understood where she could find relief, Wylene immediately released the pressure.

[borntoride1948]

I have seen many, many horses layed down but never this way. I understand the reasoning behind laying down a horse and the success it gives a trainer but, as I viewed this footage I was un-nerved as this horse lunged again and again forward being driven with it's hind legs all but landing on the front legs as this horse plugged it's self forward. I'm not sure who this person is that is using this method but there are hundreds of trainers that lay horses down and it's not this violent.

[yalzanna]

@borntoride1948 I'm sorry you feel this was violent - it truly was not. It is no different than a horse bracing against a bit- we encourage them to stop with methods some people, who don't understand, would find violent. What you can't see is the change the horse went through - yes she fought laying down but once down the trainer and owner took turns laying on her stroking her and speaking softly. Her breathing relaxed and eye softened and did not want to get up.

[DeathByPurpleUnicorn]

@yalzanna - The huge difference between this was the fact that this was so dangerous and laying a horse does not accomplish anything. You do not want to dominate your horse, you want to come to an understanding. Domination only works for so long(the horse only fears you and will eventually turn on you).

[montesbugsalive]

@DeathByPurpleUnicorn ...my mare that was ABUSED before I got her (she had to be roped to be caught, then when you finally had a halter on her, when you went to pet her, she would try to bolt away) then after she was laid down, using this method, she is now my best lesson horse! (she is 4) In fact, she is so trusting she can graze out on 300 acres and comes running up to us, where as before she was laid down, she had to be stalled in a tiny pen, and then ROPED to be caught! proof in the pudding!

[DeathByPurpleUnicorn]

@montesbugsalive - Like I said, it only works for so long. Your mare is 4 therefore she hasn't figured out how to "stand up to the bully" yet. 

[montesbugsalive]

@DeathByPurpleUnicorn okay....well I'm not wasting my time talking to some dude who doesn't have any fruit on the tree....over & out

[DeathByPurpleUnicorn]

@montesbugsalive - For one, I am not a dude. For two, I train horses as a living and have studied them all of my life. I know my stuff. Best of wishes though.

[kmphillips99]

@yalzanna YOU are the one who does not understand. The idea of laying down a horse for submission is silly,they are not dogs they don't think like dogs.If you want to teach em a trick then cool,but that particular way was ill-timed,dangerous and unkind.

[sorcha24]

@yalzanna sorry but this is barbaric, it could have easily broken a fore leg, im with borne to ride, there are better ways to achieve the same resulty, personality and behavious wise too...

[yalzanna]

Thank you for viewing this video, It is so frustrating to me when someone uses partial facts and purposely misleading info to bolster their opinion. This video is truly shown in it's entirely, unedited and untouched!

[trudeemypony]

I agree! Thank you for the clarification, the process of laying a horse down, when it is done the correct way, does help horses tremendously. The benifet is the over-all result, and when a horse owner smiles and beams with satisfaction because they accutally are able to finally ride the horse of their dreams, then a person fully sees with their own eyes how laying horses down properly, can be a useful tool in teaching a horse to understand what we are asking without putting them in danger.

[yalzanna]

@trudeemypony Thank you for viewing this video, It is so frustrating to me when someone uses partial facts and purposely misleading info to bolster their opinion. This video is truly shown in it's entirely, unedited and untouched!