Greece Teaches: This is how you Take Over a Country 101

[cobone2]

BTW The Music of Epirus is Greek Music..as is Epirus is Greek,as the ancient finds show us,,and the ancient names show us..Albania and the Albanians NEED to stop this idea of a greater Albania,,,Greece is NOT Kosovo..never forget that Shqiptarians

[cobone2]

The problem with this propagandist video is it show one side...Why doesnt this video tell what the Chams did to the Greeks,,and how they wanted to created a seprate nation state within Greece..???As for language..YOU MUST LEARN THE LANGUAGE OF THE NATION YOU ARE LIVING IN.If you live in America YOU MUST LEARN HOW TO SPEAK ENGLISH.Alot Greeks who lived in Albania were NOT allowed to speak thier Greek language in Albania..So why are you Albanians crying foul now????

[Iaonas]

1.32 and they gave the lesson in turkish. Haha

We understand obviously that these people they are lying.

LOL they made the lesson in turkish. Liers.

[seldi09]

gayreks shut up and let chams to go in their houses

[2007LevinNZ]

the time of the communism the Greeks who lived in Albania couldn't speak Greek the Albanians teased them, they had no Greek schools only in some villages.

[Jasonbolt23]

they did worse to the MACEDONIANS

[makedon2008]

mbpabo!!!!!!!!!

[o0n1]

I am sick of all the hate in the Balkan peninsula the truth is that we managed to free ourselves from the turks only to commit atrocities on each other, I hope this will stop one day.

I am greek from Epirus and I know that both sides commited atrocities during the wars.

It is really sad

[velerephon]

Resistance Days WW2 Hellas:219 Norway:61 France:43 Poland:30 Belgium:18 Holland:4 Yugoslavia:3 Denmark:0 Czechoslovakia:0 Luxemburg:0 CASUALTIES Greek Soldiers during the 219 days:13676 Greek Civilians Executed by: Albanians:1165 Ιtalians:~8000 Bulgarians:~25000 Germans:~50000 Total Human Losses(executions,hunger,illne­sses,battles) Hellas:10%(~750.000) USSR:2,8% Holland:2,2% France:2% Poland:1,8% Yugoslavia:1,7% Βelgium:1,5%

[FlSHERMAN]

velerephon, your statistics is showing what albanians did after what you did to them in epirotes.. the video shown was before 1940.. i dont see any reason for albanians to not take revenge.. this was a chance for the Albanians to save their ass

[sakshama]

For sure I know that your statistic for other countries are wrong. Is that to cover up your current wrongdoings with minorytis living in Greece and present yourself as a victims?

[velerephon]

sakshama show me which statistics are wrong please.

also please inform me why do u have the byzantine eagle in your flag which is the flag of orthodox christendom and why giorgos kastriotis is an albanian hero according to your books?

cant u see that u make fools of yourselves?

[Dykefalos]

why do you muslim fools have a Byzantine Christian Flag?? and sport it while killing christians... you morons.. you dumb muslim monkeys made a christian crusader your national hero and you made a Byzantine symbol your flag you fools... you wanna talk about making a fool out of oneself you stupid fuck?!?! look in the mirror you soccer ball head inbred fuck!!!

[2007LevinNZ]

Bravo....... Ipeiros forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[valdrin85]

lol u wish jesus131181.

back in the day ppl didnt have access to the things that we do today, so ppl did this and got away with it, well in the eyes of the world.

but if u happen to know any albanians, u know we dont forgive or forget, what goes around comes around, keep telling urself this is propaganda, ask ur grandparents and tell em to tell u the truth, and u will be surprised, u frruckin backstabbing faggots, CAMERIA IS ALBANIAN. the world knows the mistakes they made in 1913.

[jesus131181]

There is no truth in this video. There are many Albanians living and working (legally or not)in Greece peacefully. It is in Greece's culture to despise such atrocities and to only use force for defense.

I myself daily examine many uninsured Albanian workers free of charge, and this happens in every greek hospital. Why can't the Balcans just work together towards prosperity?

It is obvious that this video is part of a centrally controlled propaganda that has a lot to do with the Kosovo matters.

[MusicOfEpirus]

How old are you?

I hope you were born in 1920s to have a say about the truthfulness of this.

I do agree however with you when you say we should work together. But do you know what that means in Greek Language?

"OK, let your guards down Albania so that we can slap you gain, but now better, when no one is watching and listening."

It will never happen unless the Democratic Republic of Greece is truly Democratic*

*Being a religious state does not mean Democratic, but a Medieval Empire.

[jesus131181]

There is no intention for quarrel from the Greek side. There is no reason. Greece's main goal is financial leadership in the Balcan area (being the only EU member state in the region), and this will only happen if every neighbouring country develops simultaneously, thus securing the commercial routes and keeping the foreign investors reassured that there is stability in the area. This could lead to happier and more prosperous times for both our nations.

[MusicOfEpirus]

Nice talk... those could be the intentions of a portion of the population and we're ready to cooperate.

I'm talking about the Greeks that dig Albanian graves in the South and place Anatolian dead bodies in them for territorial and historical claims... burn property and population registration centers.

This happened in MY property where Greek immigrants live.

Not saying all of you do it, but the church does have access in Albania ;)... monasteries etc.

Let's fight them together then.

[velerephon]

musicofepirus. with all due respect, u r one sick son of a b#@$c!!!

[Truejustice100]

@jesus131181 yeah after killing us and stealing lands you wanna live peacefully right now?? Chameria was never yours and never will be! Murders!

[olothimistos]

you stupid Albanian and Greek nationalists!!We have the common right to live with each other peacefully.If you fight about the borders the only one that wins is the ones that want us separate,the rich!!Make peace in the balkans you morrons!!You will get killed for your nation (Albania or Greece or Serbia or Kroatia)and the rich will get richer!Stupid people!!

[jimmys2010]

And language eroshi! you always forget the language. The idea that you are the pure nation and the rest are bastards sounds pretty racist if you ask me.

[jimmys2010]

Hello!

[balkancoolhead]

and as we look into "greek" history today and we see very clearly how a long list of regional traditions have been labeled "greek" and are not associated with albania, we say, this is unjust, historically inaccurate and thanks to America's Internet, there is no place to hide the distortions and omissions any longer...

[balkancoolhead]

your culture, like many cultures, tried to tie together various elements of tradition and history from the region in order to create a homogenous identity. this historically unforgivable act almost worked, but for the fact that you never succeeded in assimilating albanians... so with each new generation, the old identity returned and demanded to be heard...

[balkancoolhead]

and you continue the same shameless attacks on the Albanian/Illyrian connection even into the 21st century? where is the intellectual honesty? what if our histories are intertwined... what if illyrian/pelasgian folklore formed the basis of for greek mythology... what about the unique language of the Albanians.. would it not be something to celebrate if it turns out that the aboriginal peoples of europe have survived to this day through their language?

[balkancoolhead]

some of you are reasonable, some of you clearly possess limited intellect and you violate any italian, french, german, austrian, hungarian, even romanian or bulgarian version of the history of the region. much archival evidence suggests atrocities by your culture against the albanians, from rape to ethnic cleansing, to genocide, to attempts at destruction of identity... there is no place to hide now, America's Internet continues to shine a light on those and other shameful acts.

[blainereininger]

NOP, there are many paintings with the heroes of Greek revolution (1821) with fustanella and not all of them were Arvanites, like Grigoris Dikaios for example. Fustanella was invented by Albanians that is true but Greeks used to wear it too. To give you an example the soldiers of the presidential guard in Greece

still wear fustanella.

[MusicOfEpirus]

Not even a variant of a dialect. IT IS ALBANIAN.

Megas will no longer post here.

[jimmys14]

LOL! I mentioned only last names! Almost all the Greeks wore fustanella before 1800s. Only the intellectuals wore European clothes. Ignorance is a path that leads to hatred. Botsari and Javela were Arvanites but they were not the only families in Souli.

[jimmys14]

The names Drakos, Zervas, Panou, Diamades, Antonopoulos sound Greek to me. You think that anybody wore a fustanell was an Albanian/Arvanite?

[Aerospartan]

Albos had hostile tensions to Greece and Greeks and when the Italianos attacked us, albos joined them, they hated us. So we applied some restrictions to you, as natural. Don't moan, morons

[MusicOfEpirus]

Why was there even Albos in Greece??

... do you ever ask yourself that question?

Why did they hate you?

[Aerospartan]

Some Albos lived in Epirus (cameria as you call it), as Greeks lived and live in North Epirus (south Albania). This is normal, happens everywhere. They had no reason to hate us, we didn't harm them in any way.

[MusicOfEpirus]

K, this my last message:

From what these people say, NO ONE knew Greek in Southern Epirus! Greek was introduced in 1939.

Greeks in NE do not exist, just Greek Orthodox Albanians.

In Southern Epirus (Çamëria) there were ONLY Albanians divided into Muslim and Greek Orthodox.

Greece has been long dead... you are carrying the name unjustifiably like the FYROMians are carrying Macedonia.

Cheers.

[Skitzo001]

haha ur all just mad cuz greeks rule

[MusicOfEpirus]

Read my friend... read the subtitles and lear who the Greeks are. They are Albanian orthodox.

Your parents have been humiliated and violated for speaking your so called "old language Arvanitika".

Are you proud of that?

[zapshock]

Greek minority has been treated no where near to the savage level greeks treated the chams. All you can do is lie to make yourself feel otherwise.

[MusicOfEpirus]

Greek minority have not been expelled from their homes. They still live in Albania. Even when they didn't have property, Enver Hoxha accomodated them, and after communism Sali Berisha gave them whatever house they lived in.

It is clear that the Greeks are always smarter.

They take LAND, and they excuse themselves with fictious minority mistreatement.

IT'S ALL ABOUT THE LAND!

[jimmys14]

So the Greeks did not allow Albanian students to speak Albanian in school so what? Your governments have done the same and even worse to the Greek minority in North Epirus not to mention the collaboration of the Chamerians with the Nazis or your communist past I am sure you are proud of. Losers. Albanian barbarism that's the right word.

[MusicOfEpirus]

Don't lie.

There's a minimum of 10 Greek schools in Albania. In Greece only HALF of a one.

Either way, the point here is that, whatever Epirus is right now, is OCCUPIED!

Albanians comprise 30% of Greek population, and they have been denied the rights of speaking their language (Arbanitika), flag, identity, opinion... and all their ancestors are propagated to the Western Tourism as "highlander Greeks".

[jimmys14]

Arvanites made a choice long ago. We did not even have to try. Chamerians is a different issue we agree. But no Greek government could impose to an ethnic minority what to believe about themselves. Most of the Arvanites consider themselves Greeks that is enough for me. Otherwise Greece would look like Turkey- your alies and the pioneers in violation of Human Rights in Balkans

[MusicOfEpirus]

Don't make useless comments.

Arbanites made very wise choices, and one of them was the BILINGUAL Greek ORTHODOX state (not Greek state). Where is the second language now?

Why is the Marco Boçari's painting in Athens being called "A Greek Highlander"? Why is it so hard to say that him and his tribesmen (a concept that does not exist in Greece) were Albanians?

Egypt says that it's greatest king of all times was Albanian. Fairly civilized and secure I'd say.

[jimmys14]

1)Yes, this king you know, had some problems with the Turkish authorities before it became king of Egypt. Imagine who saved his ass. Yes, correctly it was the bad Greeks.

2)The English chose a state with these characteristics and the leaders of Arvanites accepted it long ago, otherwise we would have a civil war- but guess what? We didn't.

3) Souliotes were mixed Greeks and Arvanites

so it is not that bad, LOL!

[MusicOfEpirus]

Suliotes were Arvanites... and Arvanite simply means Albanian. Just like Greeks mean Ellinas... nothing more, nothing less.

But please, tell me more about how Greeks helped Mehmet Ali get in power. You probably consider Arbanites/Arnauts/Albanians Greek still? I don't get it.

[MusicOfEpirus]

One day you'll probably decide to call Alvania "Almpania"... and then you'll say... the Alvanoi that live in Greece as immigrants are NOT Albanians from Almpania. lol

[megas05]

Bizarre statements, Arvanites including Marcos Botsari were fiercely Greek and thought AGAINST Albanians. The fact they spoke a language similar to Albanian is due to the fact they lived alongside Albanians. It is like saying I am English as I can speak English...

[MavrosStavros]

a langage similiar to the albanian they only can be understod by albanians does that make him " A GREEK HIGHLANER" lol u greeks should all become colwns as you are great jokers

[albob1o2]

hahahahah thank u hahaha

[balkancoolhead]

megas05, i understand that these statements seem "bizarre" to you... you have simply not been exposed to the facts, so this is new to you. the idea that the state within which you reside possesses another history of less than notable acts must surely create a sense first of disbelief, and then, hopefully, a curiosity and a will to ask questions.

[balkancoolhead]

your "english" analogy to today is one of the weaker ones i have seen. if you were living close to england (such as scotland) then your analogy would at least be off to a reasonable start. but to speak about albanian as if it was an international language is bizarre.

and as for botsari being "fiercely Greek", this is typical greek conflation of Church & State. your church "intellectuals" have long mixed up ethnicity and culture with religion, which confuses the civilized West, but not us.

[vasili33]

Not "so what", Jimmy - I'm Greek, anywhere where people were forbidden to speak their own language, it should ring alarm bells, it's ethnic cleansing or destroying culture. Be objective. What the other side did is irrelevant. Two wrongs don't make a right, they are just two wrongs.

[jimmys2010]

vasili33

They were not forbidden to speak their language in general.

Simply they were not allowed to speak their language while at school.

Plus you cannot compare the situation in Balkans 70 years ago with the situation in Australia nowadays.Although the Aboriginals might have a different opinion LOL!

[vasili33]

I know it wherever I see it - Greece or Australia. Laughing at your own jokes is not a great look, mate, especially since they don't really hit the mark. Not much point in trying to make me feel bad about the country I live in, because as an individual I don't have any patriotic allegiances. I have an interest in original culture and folklore, anywhere from Iran to Hungary; 20th century nationalism has done nothing except destroy the rich historic interactions between the region's cultures.

[jimmys2010]

Cool man!I am sure you are above from this shit.

But the only active and dangerous nationalism in Balkans is the Albanian. Partially due to the Stalinist communist regime and partially due to fact that the Albanians were the last to gain their independence from the Ottomans.

[vasili33]

I'm over your ignorant comments. Bosnian Muslims, Croats and Serbs have suffered. Serbs have been bombed by NATO. Absolutely horrific attrocities against Kosovar Albanians. Sounds like the results of active and dangerous nationalism to me. Not to mention Greece's economic embargo of MK which set back a poorer neighbour who knows how many years. You, clearly, are not "above from this shit". Typical mentality, it's always the other to blame, but you can't see the wrongs of your own people.

[jimmys2010]

You are the ignorant vasili. First of all, FYROM is governed by VMRO a typical nationalistic party. And the "horrific atrocities against Kosovar Albanians" have not been proved yet. And to update your information since you are talking only about the previous decade the only really dangerous nationalism left is the Albanian. Greek government offers economic help both to Albania and FYROM. I thought you meant well but you are just a smart-ass.

[vasili33]

The fact that you need proof before you will accept it happened says it all. Disgusting, really. You probably wouldn't be nearly as strict in your demand for proof if Muslims, rather than your Serb brothers had done this. The issues are complex but having a conscience is a simple thing.

[jimmys2010]

Do not play the "Muslim card" to a Greek. My country has excellent relationships with all the countries of the Muslim world and hundreds of thousands of Greeks including me have supported the Palestinian struggle for freedom. In Kosovo contrary to Bosnia no evidence of mass murders-graves was found so

allow me to doubt about the "facts".

[vasili33]

vre, that is like when you accuse a racist and he says 'but my best friend is Black/Jewish/Muslim' - spare me! i'm not saying the others are perfect but i know first hand the average Greek's sentiments toward other cultures, 7 of 8 great grandparents of mine are Greek. If you doubt the suffering of Kosovar Albanians, google "rugove" and it's the first site on the list - with photos. And I recommend you haven't eaten recently.

[jimmys2010]

For me as a student Albania was just a country in the map. I had not seen an Albanian even on TV before 1992. You cannot be racist towards somebody you do not know he exists. I saw the photos. All are adults male and with the exception of a couple of guys probably the rest died in battle-the AKs-47 were next to them. The death of 100-200 civilians is a tragedy but not a proof of ethnic cleansing.

In ethnic cleansing there is a master plan and

involves the death of at least thousands of people.

[aspetosi]

--U should be a poor student.There were 12,000 victims of Kosovar albanians,tens of massive graves some of them discovered by SERBIAN human rights activists in the outskirts of Serbia full of albanian bodies-1 million people deported from their country (like in biblical times)-For one like u, these facts are'nt enough cuze u are a LITLE WORM,production of an ecclesiastical state like Greece who has been the only one to have HAD GREEK TERRORIST ORGANISATIONS AFFILIATED WITH ARABIAN TERRRORISTS.

[jimmys2010]

First I was a frighten puppy then I become a little worm. How old are you? 15-16? You make me laugh with your stupid conspiracy theories. I bet you are about 1.60m and you believe in UFOs. Just for the record I am an atheist. Bye bye kid.

[aspetosi]

jimmy 1.60m is my dick and when it slides inside ur as becomes 2.U are like a worm in ur character,as all u greek etiopians are,depraved from any moral values to be called a human being,and make sense cuze ur spiritual teachers are some human beings who are suffering from a warped sense of human insticts;---there is not any conspiracy u little fagg about the fact of 'DECEMBER 17' A GREEK TERRORIST ORGANISATION AFFILIATED WITH ARABIAN TERORIST and 'MAVI' another GREEK TERROIST ORGANISATION.

[Pinturicchio1018]

i qifsha motren greqis. hajde un jam im i pari te vete ne luft me greket. kush tjeter?

[ulkonja]

Une

[suliot]

"greek civilisation", i don't think so.

"greek barbarism" that's the right word.

[NYPD44]

Congratulations "MusicOfEpirus"

You always bring beautiful videos

[ILLYRICUMSACRUM]

Ah dreqt e zinje, do ti haje dreqi keta se shpejti. Te ndalohet rreptesisht perdorimi dhe perdorja e cdo simboli grek ne trojet shqipetare. Te mos perdorim prodhime "greke" e as serbe.

[valosi]

Vetem disa jave na ndajne nga pavarsia e Kosoves...mos te mendojne qe me kaq e perfunduam ne Shqipetaret, do te vazhdojme me pjesen Shqipetare te Maqedonis...e pas disa vjetesh atehere do vjen radha Grekut do e marrim pjesen tone edhe atje.