did you find Halstead a tough company to get in touch with? Their web presence seems slim, and contact info hard to attain. I'm having the same problem as you with my tiles. HD recommended ripping them all up, sanding off all the old adhesive, and using a vinyl glue... but I'd rather treat individual tiles than do the whole job again because of a bad product.
I did an entire kitchen/laundry room with these tiles and had no problems. It was done over an existing vinyl floor that I cleaned very well and primed with an adhesive primer. After I put all the tiles down, I rented a floor roller and went over the entire room for about an hour. I had no problems. I put the grout in and let it set for a day and it still looks perfect after almost a year.
The instructions on this product do not suggest nor state that the tiles are to be heated by heat gun or hair dryer. When examining the bottom of these tiles the glue does not effectively reach the corners, and based on the design of the tile, it causes it to lift the corners after placement whether you use a rolling pin or 90 lbs floor roller. Also, the post from @taxminis0311 sounds too much like marketing promotion.
@taxminia0311: I have many years of renovation experience. In the case of this product simply following the instructions is not good enough. The product has flaws in design. I only recommended the glue that the Halstead Industries sent me. Using any thick floor or tile adhesive on these would likely be too thick and would squish up around the tiles, making it nearly impossible to grout. The whole idea of a peel and stick tile is that you should not need to use any additional adhesive right?
Believe me this isn't the 1st time I've done this and they have never lift up on me, not once as long as you read the instruction and do what the manufacture requirements,you to do you wont go wrong, also let the tile get use to the temperture of the home for 48hrs prior to laying them down.
I purchased the same floor today, which I will be laying them down some time after I paint the kitchen, but first thing is first
Read instruction prior to laying them down, Lift up all vinyle floor and glue, roll primeer on sub-floor, snap chalkline to locate the center of the floor, heat up tile w/hair dryer or heat gun lay them downstarting from the center and last, but not least roll w/rolling pin and grout & your done, and that my friend is the correct way to lay this type of floor down.
ppl make me laugh they expect that the adhesive that come with there vinyl floor is suppose to hold itself down. ppl wake up use a hair blow or heat gun to activate the glue strip prior to laying it down also don't remove the tape adhesive protector until you are about to lay them down sooner, don't do it otherwise the glue will dry up on you.
Also remove the old vinyl floor add extra adhesive to the sub floor prior to laying them down..don't lay it down on the old floor it will uplift.
You need to ensure that the sub floor is clean and dry. A primer should be applied before lying tile. Very pleased with this product so far. Very nice look.
I had this tile installed for over 4 years. no problems as soever. i will need to re-grout it next year. to this day everyone sees it thinks that it is a ceramic tile. do not rely on the tile adhesive glue alone.
I don't believe Adhesive promoter would have worked. The problem with the tiles is that they bow up and the corners lift because of the way they are made, and there isn't enough glue on the edges and corners. Lifting and returning 80% of the tiles was unrealistic as they leave to much glue residue on the floor. The temperature was steady near 70F and the tiles were acclimatized for over a week. A test grouting piece failed. The grout is only 1/8" thick and the corners lift long before the gro
you should of used adhesive promoter, you spread it over the floor and it makes the tiles stick better. but also keep in mind things like room temp may stop it from sticking well. looks like your were grouting too, it won't come up once you add the grout. finally you can take the defective tiles back and get them replace. its like with buying at flooring you're going to get a few defective ones.
The subfloor is 5/8" t&g plywood, filled with the floor filler from HD, and primed with Armstrong Flooring Primer (also recommended by HD). I called HALSTEAD Industries (Illinois) and they sent me 3 tubes of "Allure" glue. Turns out to be thick crazy glue (Cyanoacrylate). 4 hours of lifting each corner and side and placing glue under them, then holding them down for a minute or so and it stayed down. I have since grouted it with an acrylic grout and it looks good. Will post a video later
Mine did the exact same thing, only I laid about 300 square feet of it. Guess I get to track down the warranty information. The stuff is junk as far as I'm concerned.
@stretch2187 the installation sucks... I agree. However, I dropped a hammer on it while working and there was no damage. The product is tough, but finicky to install.
@stretch2187 Ouch! I was just stating below how we changed our mind and decided to go with ceramic on our almost 300 sq. ft. b/c we hated to have these things happen on such a big area. So sorry!!!
Most of these comments refer to Allure "plank" flooring. This is tile flooring, a different product. This is peel & stick tile & would probably leave a sticky floor. I just removed stick on tile from a house we are remodeling & it was very sticky on the remaining floor. That is why it is call "peel & stick". Maybe we can get relevant comments now. I'm Considering using this tile & wanted to get feedback on the grout. It appears that you intended to use the grout here. Did you intend to?
@dearjanesdogs I did use grout. On the second 50 sqft, I took the time to add the special Cyanoacrylate glue that was supplied by HALSTEAD Industries around the sides and corners of every tile before placing them. This kept all corners and edges down. I then grouted with a flexible acrylic grout product (from HD). The Resilient Tiles have beveled edges and to allow for grouting. I will post a video of the finished floor later.
@roskelm2 Thanks for the response and I can't wait to see your finished floor. Sounds like it worked out in the end. Glad to hear. Since reading your problem and not finding much more info on this product we decided to go with ceramic instead of peel and stick. We have laid ceramic before and are more comfortable with the process. Guess we're thinking better safe than sorry on this one. We are covering almost 300 sq. ft. Ouch! A mess up would have been devastating!
Looks like you stuck the Allure planks to the cement floor. LOL. Of course it is going to fail. You should watch some videos on how to install allure plank flooring correctly.
"This leaves 60 sqft of sticky floor and more than 12 hrs of wasted time."
You obviously did not read the instructions on how to install. Allure flooring cannot leave a "sticky floor" if installed right because the glue edges over lap one another to form a floating floor. You cut off the glue edges when you are against a wall both at the top and bottom edge and the right and left sides leaving a 1/8" expansion gap. It looks like you installed each plank of Allure with a 1/8" expansion gap.
@scri8e this is not Allure flooring, and Yes I did read the instructions. Perhaps before jumping to conclusions, you would ask first? Perhaps you missed the title "TrafficMaster Resilient Tile Flooring". Resilient Tile is a product.
Okay, I can understand your frustration, but more info is needed to address this situation...
Which one of their products are you showing here? What surface are you laying it down on? Was the area cleaned of all dust and residue?
It kind of looks like its on concrete... unless it was chemically stripped and cleaned, you are going to have adhesion problems due to dust... a sealer perhaps?
Either way, the brand is sold special under Homedepot and that is never a good business practice, and as you said, that usually means that customer service is non existent, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the product is faulty.
did you find Halstead a tough company to get in touch with? Their web presence seems slim, and contact info hard to attain. I'm having the same problem as you with my tiles. HD recommended ripping them all up, sanding off all the old adhesive, and using a vinyl glue... but I'd rather treat individual tiles than do the whole job again because of a bad product.
cantordustmusic 4 weeks ago
Does anyone know how well theses hold up with dogs? Thinking of doing them in our kitchen but unsure if the dogs with scratch them up....
breebabys40 1 month ago
I did an entire kitchen/laundry room with these tiles and had no problems. It was done over an existing vinyl floor that I cleaned very well and primed with an adhesive primer. After I put all the tiles down, I rented a floor roller and went over the entire room for about an hour. I had no problems. I put the grout in and let it set for a day and it still looks perfect after almost a year.
villenuv27 4 months ago
The instructions on this product do not suggest nor state that the tiles are to be heated by heat gun or hair dryer. When examining the bottom of these tiles the glue does not effectively reach the corners, and based on the design of the tile, it causes it to lift the corners after placement whether you use a rolling pin or 90 lbs floor roller. Also, the post from @taxminis0311 sounds too much like marketing promotion.
roskelm2 4 months ago
@taxminia0311: I have many years of renovation experience. In the case of this product simply following the instructions is not good enough. The product has flaws in design. I only recommended the glue that the Halstead Industries sent me. Using any thick floor or tile adhesive on these would likely be too thick and would squish up around the tiles, making it nearly impossible to grout. The whole idea of a peel and stick tile is that you should not need to use any additional adhesive right?
roskelm2 4 months ago
1) make sub-floor is place down well if not nail or staple gun it down, roll primer liquid on sub-floor, locate center of floor w/ chalkline
2) place extra adhesive on primed sup-floor with trowel, if need prior to laying the tiles
3) heat up tiles w/hair dryer or heat gun & roll w/rolling pin & palce tile beginning from coner center line out
4) grout mouter, clean grout correctly 2 swips w/ clean water and your done....good luck
Taxminia0311 4 months ago
Believe me this isn't the 1st time I've done this and they have never lift up on me, not once as long as you read the instruction and do what the manufacture requirements,you to do you wont go wrong, also let the tile get use to the temperture of the home for 48hrs prior to laying them down.
Taxminia0311 4 months ago
I purchased the same floor today, which I will be laying them down some time after I paint the kitchen, but first thing is first
Read instruction prior to laying them down, Lift up all vinyle floor and glue, roll primeer on sub-floor, snap chalkline to locate the center of the floor, heat up tile w/hair dryer or heat gun lay them downstarting from the center and last, but not least roll w/rolling pin and grout & your done, and that my friend is the correct way to lay this type of floor down.
Taxminia0311 4 months ago
ppl make me laugh they expect that the adhesive that come with there vinyl floor is suppose to hold itself down. ppl wake up use a hair blow or heat gun to activate the glue strip prior to laying it down also don't remove the tape adhesive protector until you are about to lay them down sooner, don't do it otherwise the glue will dry up on you.
Also remove the old vinyl floor add extra adhesive to the sub floor prior to laying them down..don't lay it down on the old floor it will uplift.
Taxminia0311 4 months ago
You need to ensure that the sub floor is clean and dry. A primer should be applied before lying tile. Very pleased with this product so far. Very nice look.
lizturn1 7 months ago
I had this tile installed for over 4 years. no problems as soever. i will need to re-grout it next year. to this day everyone sees it thinks that it is a ceramic tile. do not rely on the tile adhesive glue alone.
qtdev 7 months ago
I don't believe Adhesive promoter would have worked. The problem with the tiles is that they bow up and the corners lift because of the way they are made, and there isn't enough glue on the edges and corners. Lifting and returning 80% of the tiles was unrealistic as they leave to much glue residue on the floor. The temperature was steady near 70F and the tiles were acclimatized for over a week. A test grouting piece failed. The grout is only 1/8" thick and the corners lift long before the gro
roskelm2 8 months ago
you should of used adhesive promoter, you spread it over the floor and it makes the tiles stick better. but also keep in mind things like room temp may stop it from sticking well. looks like your were grouting too, it won't come up once you add the grout. finally you can take the defective tiles back and get them replace. its like with buying at flooring you're going to get a few defective ones.
devGOD 8 months ago
The subfloor is 5/8" t&g plywood, filled with the floor filler from HD, and primed with Armstrong Flooring Primer (also recommended by HD). I called HALSTEAD Industries (Illinois) and they sent me 3 tubes of "Allure" glue. Turns out to be thick crazy glue (Cyanoacrylate). 4 hours of lifting each corner and side and placing glue under them, then holding them down for a minute or so and it stayed down. I have since grouted it with an acrylic grout and it looks good. Will post a video later
roskelm2 9 months ago
Mine did the exact same thing, only I laid about 300 square feet of it. Guess I get to track down the warranty information. The stuff is junk as far as I'm concerned.
stretch2187 9 months ago
@stretch2187 the installation sucks... I agree. However, I dropped a hammer on it while working and there was no damage. The product is tough, but finicky to install.
roskelm2 9 months ago
@stretch2187 Ouch! I was just stating below how we changed our mind and decided to go with ceramic on our almost 300 sq. ft. b/c we hated to have these things happen on such a big area. So sorry!!!
dearjanesdogs 8 months ago
Most of these comments refer to Allure "plank" flooring. This is tile flooring, a different product. This is peel & stick tile & would probably leave a sticky floor. I just removed stick on tile from a house we are remodeling & it was very sticky on the remaining floor. That is why it is call "peel & stick". Maybe we can get relevant comments now. I'm Considering using this tile & wanted to get feedback on the grout. It appears that you intended to use the grout here. Did you intend to?
dearjanesdogs 9 months ago
@dearjanesdogs I did use grout. On the second 50 sqft, I took the time to add the special Cyanoacrylate glue that was supplied by HALSTEAD Industries around the sides and corners of every tile before placing them. This kept all corners and edges down. I then grouted with a flexible acrylic grout product (from HD). The Resilient Tiles have beveled edges and to allow for grouting. I will post a video of the finished floor later.
roskelm2 9 months ago
@roskelm2 Thanks for the response and I can't wait to see your finished floor. Sounds like it worked out in the end. Glad to hear. Since reading your problem and not finding much more info on this product we decided to go with ceramic instead of peel and stick. We have laid ceramic before and are more comfortable with the process. Guess we're thinking better safe than sorry on this one. We are covering almost 300 sq. ft. Ouch! A mess up would have been devastating!
dearjanesdogs 8 months ago
I can't quite make it out, but did you use the primer they suggested or did you place the tiles directly on the wood subfloor?
llamos 1 year ago
Looks like you stuck the Allure planks to the cement floor. LOL. Of course it is going to fail. You should watch some videos on how to install allure plank flooring correctly.
scri8e 1 year ago
@scri8e Nope its wood. #FAIL
roskelm2 9 months ago
"This leaves 60 sqft of sticky floor and more than 12 hrs of wasted time."
You obviously did not read the instructions on how to install. Allure flooring cannot leave a "sticky floor" if installed right because the glue edges over lap one another to form a floating floor. You cut off the glue edges when you are against a wall both at the top and bottom edge and the right and left sides leaving a 1/8" expansion gap. It looks like you installed each plank of Allure with a 1/8" expansion gap.
scri8e 1 year ago
@scri8e this is not Allure flooring, and Yes I did read the instructions. Perhaps before jumping to conclusions, you would ask first? Perhaps you missed the title "TrafficMaster Resilient Tile Flooring". Resilient Tile is a product.
roskelm2 9 months ago
Okay, I can understand your frustration, but more info is needed to address this situation...
Which one of their products are you showing here? What surface are you laying it down on? Was the area cleaned of all dust and residue?
It kind of looks like its on concrete... unless it was chemically stripped and cleaned, you are going to have adhesion problems due to dust... a sealer perhaps?
Just my two cents...
MrHitmanx 1 year ago
Either way, the brand is sold special under Homedepot and that is never a good business practice, and as you said, that usually means that customer service is non existent, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the product is faulty.
MrHitmanx 1 year ago