@J0EY0924 sharp is not what we need in kata ...the principal characteristics of kata are the Kime /spirit + technique ..not speed ..if you use to do kata with speed you don't show the technique ..and the breathing ...he does not show spirit again ....
@catalyn080 those principles are in his kata as well.... spirit is not measured via screaming .. lol it must be seen in person.. spirit is what gives a spectators chills as they watch... you sound like another fool stuck on that open circuits bullshit.
@J0EY0924 spirit means kime ..when you do kata ..you need to be confident ..and to do breathing technique ...because he accelerate the kata means he can not breath as fast as he moves ...and here comes the fact he doesn't have spirit..after you do an move you need to be fixed a second on that technique..to show us the technique ...people can not understand much if he haste ,,,for that is kata ...to show how better you can do the techniques ....not how fast ...
@J0EY0924 check sensei frank brennan's nijushiho kata ..and you will see what means to be spirit ..to be focus ...to breath ...some parts of the kata are very fast ..and then sloww ...and then again ..
@J0EY0924 the technique is not shown correctly and the spirit because of the acceleration of the kata ...you need to be a stone statue for 1 second for every move
Luca is really good karateist. CalaD33 when you said that he needs to open hes kata to less understanding audience ... this is competition he must do it strong, quick and good technique and he do it best he can ... but different story is on his seminars I was on one of them and he treat us like young karateists and he learnd me so much so he's very good for chilldren od my age ( 10,11,12,13,14,15) luca is the best (:
Wow -- it's sad to see so many negative comments towards such a great practitioner. At first glance you naysayers sound jealous or bitter that you're either not as strong as he is, or are no longer as strong as you yourself once were.
The purposes of kata are so numbered that it's really not fair to call him strictly a performer because you don't understand his interpretation of the kata -- perhaps you should reevaluate your own training and practice instead of attack another.
It's not about Luca doin dramas on the tatami, and/or loving himself. Its about show! Why do we need show? To have more spectators on the competitions, and to have more watchers sitting before the TV. If you want karate to be popular, you need fans. This is how you make fans. Period.
He is undoubtedly a great athlete, but the simple fact that he finish his kata one meter far from the point he has started, implies that something is wrong.
The notion that all kata must finish in the same place that it began is ludicrous. Attempting to adjust your own practice of kata so that you do will only hinder your training.
Ludicrous?? You may want to re-think that. According to Masatoshi Nakayama (Funakoshi's student who authored the 'Best Karate Series' of books), there are 6 important points to Shotokan 'Kata'. Number 2 on the list is "beginning and end"; The kata must begin and end at the same point on the embusen.
You may not practice by those same standards, but to call Funakoshi's teachings 'ludicrous' is very absent-minded.
See NDshotokan's response. It's far from ludicrous, it's a fundamental goal. It's why Chinte has the silly hops in it. The kata was incomplete, but the importance of returning to the starting point remains. The indication is that if you follow the designated embusen, and your stances are consistent, you should end at where you started. If you don't, chances are you're tightening your stances throughout the kata, and ultimately coming up short. It's textbook from the masters.
Obviously not a clue about Shotokan then. Watch Nobuaki Kanazawa, he blows your theory away and he also blows valdesi away. Also, the Kata above is Goju Shiho Dai
This is Gojushiho Sho according to JKA. Kanazawa Kancho changed the names on the two kata reversing the Sho and Dai as he felt that the greater (Dai) movements were in the kata which was named Gojushiho Sho under the JKA.
This demonstration by Mr. Valdesi is not traditional. No hip movement, no kime, too slow, too fast in other places, stances too deep that he has to adjust his feet to correct, alignment of feet in kiba dachi is off, leg tension is incorrect, etc. It's only a performance
@johnbsan, you should put a clip of yourself doing this kata on you tube for us so that we can compare and see the differences. I do not have an educated enough eye to see everything that you discuss; comparing the two of you would be very useful for those of us have so much to learn.
@OreosRock555 I would only be demonstrating the traditional form which is so different to that of Sport Karate. Being twice the age of Mr. Valdesi I could not complete with his athletism - he's superb at what he does, which is why he wins the Sports Karate compeitions, but fails when it comes to the traditional competitions - he entered but did not place in a recent World Championship in traditional karate.
@johnbsan What you fail to mention, is that the opposite is just as true.
Were any traditional karate-ka to join a wkf competition, they would not be able to get past the first round. The views on what would be a good kata are simply too different.
They could do the perfect kata, under the rulings of their organisation, and still place last.
Seriously you cant say that he`s kicks are bad... then you havent seen many kicks. Afther he`s kick is over he`s foot stands in the air for a short time before he`s body pushes forward. I think he does that with purpose in kata... to make the kicks more visible. Thats he`s style.
i respectfully disagree with what said...we should try to improve ourselves only by comparing with us...u will never achieve perfection if u compare yourself with somebody else
@Andreya95 don't try to emulate him please unless your aim is to win tournaments. If you want to practice karate in the way that it was created - for self defence, health and character development then there are many better people you could emulate.
Then he's a performer, not a karateka. It's one thing to have tournaments to popularize karate, its another to pander to the crowd by bastardizing the kata. I'm jealous that I'll never have his talent, but I'll settle for doing *karate* (that's my attempt at emphasizing the word without italics) rather than what he degrades it to.
Whenever I email him, he's very humble in his replies, and humility is one of the characteristic traits of a true karateka. He performs the way he does because it's for entertainment and for competition. Come to think about it, he wouldn't be a world champion if he didn't have discipline, another characteristic trait. So, I wouldn't say he's not a karateka.
victoriuchiha, just because I don't have his raw skill,doesn't mean I can't recognize when he's doing something wrong. It also doesn't make him immune to criticism. It's a shame his insane amount of talent is wasted with flashy tricks to make his kata seem better. Funakoshi Sensei rolls in his grave every time Valdesi steps into the dojo.
So I'll stop criticizing him when he stops making a joke out of my passion.
again, why hit the stomach with the returning hand on the double punch kick punch at the start of the kata... i just dont get it... for someone with so much raw potential to throw it away for some power reducing showmanship... makes me sad :(:( still a great performance doe...
got you now, you mean the slap on the stomache with his hand... yeah the movements are stylised for effect but kata is open to interpretation so why not make it more accessible to a less understanding audience by make it more entertaining? Kata in essence isn't that applicable in a true power/defence/attacking role more a symbol. In itself its more like a story than an instruction. Know what I mean? I respect your point tho.
@CalaD33 well he slaps his gi to ensure that he can 'create' the semblance of powerful techniques consistently. It's a shame that he has to resort to cheap tricks when he could be spending his time creating the real power that would give him the snap he recreates theatrically.
He may have the power already but he wants to ensure a snap 100% of the time. It's shameful really. The judges should mark him down for that.
wich kind of competitions? i know that we have to do the basic ones (Heian) but i haven´t seen somebody yet doing one of the Heians at the first round and after that Empi or Gojushiho Sho at less in all the competitions that i have been don´t.
pelo que andei lendo a respeito de Michel Milon ele se for por overdose de Heroína, mas pra falar a verdade acredito ser de cocaína pois heroina deixa marcas nos lugares onde ha a punção pra se injetar a droga
Victor concordo plenamente contigo o francês Michel Milon acredito que como karateca ( em kata ) irá demorar muito tempo para ser superado, pena que se foi tão jovem aos 29 anos de idade já como 4º dan (para você ver como a droga de modo geral é prejudicial seja ela qual for,pois voce sabe ele morreu de overdose não se sabe de qual droga) ele tinha estilo (muito estilo) oss !
Rodrigo,comento aqui sobre o kata gojushiho sho do valdesi, o Luca Valdesi é um grande campeão mundial (WKF) e não é por acaso,porem sua grande especialidade é o kata gankaku,em se trantando deste gojushiho sho ele peca (1) com sua base zenkutsu-dachi um pouco alongada,(2) ryô ken zenpô e heikô ni nobasu, (3) ele não obedece a linha de embusen,que para um atleta de seu nível é uma falha grande (ao se executar qualquer um dos gojushiho sho ou dai tem que tomar cuidado com este detalhe, oss !
tiene demasiados detalles para ser campeon del mundo...
creo que si es campeon mundial es porque no existe nada mejor en la WKF .. lo que no significa que sea realmente EL MEJOR de todo el mundo ... es una pena que el campeon mundial de WKF tenga errores tecnicos dignos de un niño pequeño...
Exelente atleta, si tubiera un "instructor" (no un entrenador)que le haga ver sus pequeños detalles como en el segundo 48 que se le suelta el hikita despues de la patada seria mucho mejor y podria competis con los mejores de Japon.
z spoons,i dont think we need a lesson in the history of karate from you, you have admitted yourself you dont even know what the wkf is, or who the jka are.you are a member of a group that is held in contempt in the karate world for its practises, hence the name mc dojo.
This is great to watch but reading your comments re zspoons all i can think is that you are a sad pathetic piece of excrement. You are a disgrace to yourself and whatever style you do. I like lots of bits of all styles and one can learn from all if you have an opne mind. Zspoons points were valid. You are so narrow minded and must be plain jealous of GKR. Take your head from out of your arse, on second thoughts just disappear up it.
hey, its the mouth warrior again,with his big butch trash talk,how can you take seriously people who call,shiko dachi "THE SUMO STANCE" and sanchin dachi"THE PIDGEON TOE STANCE" keep working hard and get your orange belt, then you can become a gkr instuctor,uncle bob must thank the lord,for muggs like you.
I note with irony that it was you mouthed of about GKR when some GKR people were just saying how they found this clip and others interesting.They werent rude and crude like you. You are a disgrace and your pathetic bleatings will not stop GKR. GKR has been going some 30 years and is huge. You are just jealous of its success. And are you telling me that sanchin dachi is not what is classically called a pidgeon toed stance? Your a nong and dispite you i will like and appreciate other styles.
Hey hssp900 you are a disgrace. I did shotkan for 10 years and loved it then moved house. Did GKR for 10 years and loved it then moved again. Now back to doing shotokan again and loving it again. All styles have benefit. GKR is a legitmate style. Your rantings tell me you have missed many points of Karate. I suppose you also feel that Karate is superior to all other martial arts? Please if you do shotokan please grow up, otherwise you are a blight on karate & the shotokan style in particular
is it legitimate to allow novices to teach,then hide their true grade from paying students with a phoney black and white belt,no that is a discrace,getting your own students to give you a seventh dan (because nobody else would)advertising yourselves as a genuine self defense group,( using murdered children) i could go on and on,if you treated your own students with honesty and resect you might get some back in the karate world.
What an ignorant person you are. Its obvious that you are just a bitter, twisted and jealous person. There would be a point to counter your wild accusations if there was any chance you would listen. Sadly it is all too obvious you would come back with some new rant. Oohh wait a minute do you reckon Koncho was involved in the Kennedy assasination or is he really the smoking man from the xfiles. Easy solution for you. Stop watching GKR stuff, get your own life. God bless
hssp900 you give legitimate Ma's a bad nmae. And i don't mean the small minded and purile few who slag of at different styles of karate or different styles of MA. I mean the vast majority of us who apprecaite and "get" the philosophies of karate and other MA's. Having done 3 styles of karate (including GKR) i can say i like them all, got so,mething out of all and enjoyed many friendships in each style. I imagine you don't go well on religious and philosophical differences. Well allthe best.
same old speech ,right out of the handbook, you cant deny the practises you use, so you try to stifle debate,you know using begginers to teach is wrong,but still you continue.shame on you.
When karate started it was taken from somehere and changed. Then over time things change also. At the start their was no tradition. A tradition starts from somewhere as new at one point in time. Look all around. Is any sport the same as once it was. The olympics are professional. Look at golf, look at the modern sportsman. I believe you don't throw the past ou because its old. Conversly all that is new is not bad. Japan may have "invented" karate but heh others may now be doing it better.
typical italian.... all he is worried about is what he looks like. there is no zanshin... the draging of the foot on the front kicks. It shows a serious lack of technique his inability to retract or "snap" his foot back during these kicks... he lands like a sack of potatos!!!
He has so much potential but its lost by his attitude.
He will never be fit to clean Frank Brennan's shoes.
And Frank Brennan could also fight. So well that the JKA built a team to stop him, and failed. :)
What are you on about? Seriously. No malice please explain. FYI. I am in Australia, do GKR but love all sorts fo good karate. Your comments on the surface seem a bit zenophobic and myopic. I may be wrong but as i said please explain and what is your level etc etc
Valdesi tiene velocidad, tiene tiempo de cada tecnica, posee la armonia de llevar las partes lentas, relajadas y las partes rapidas, pero ahi es donde le falta algo mas de potencia, el kime, pero de por si, tiene un muy bueno gojushiho-sho, pero puede mejorarlo.
En efecto, con esos comentarios tal pareciera que ustedes hacen mejor kata, y si lo hacen, pues quitenle el titulo a Valdesi, obvio no es el único en hacer bien las cosas...
En efecto, con esos comentarios tal pareciera que ustedes hacen mejor kata, y si lo hacen, pues quitenle el titulo a Valdesi, obvio no es el único en hacer bien las cosas...
los que critican son jueces o que pdo??? pinches comentarios mamones mejor aprendan algo y agan mejor su kata si es que asen vdd tal vez si se equivoco pero somos humanos...pff ademas el wey es campeon de kata no por algo lo es =P
among other problems hes maegeri is fucked up plus that really bad turn in hibadatchi is showing that valdesi doesn't deserve 1st place at wold championship...maby alot of u think that hes a "god" but hes loaded whit problems n shortcuts(made only to impress referees)..
Secondo il mio modesto parere, Mae-geri ridicolo, Kokutsu dachi imprecisa ogni volta e molti punti in cui l'esecuzione è troppo frettolosa... non da campionato del mondo...
perdon con todo respeto tecnicamente valdesi esta muy mal tiene un infinito de defecto , los cuales son comunes en cinturones blancos. espero puedes apreciar mejor los detalles. osu!
se sabe que la tecnica no es lo que mas depurado tiene, pero la potencia hace q el minimo q le falta de tecnica sea imperceptible.. para mi es un monstruo
valdesi no tiene potencia lo q posee es un buena velocidad , si tuviera potencia tendria kime y su velocidad esta encacillada en si mal jikite dado q las tecnicas se haceb mas cortas y de por si menos trayectoria a la vista parecen mas rapidas.
i'm sorry to say but if that is the guy that is world champion then the standard of kata in the wkf isn't very high.....he cannot even come close to the jka world champions
....yes his definitely good but did you notice his front kick?....maybe its quick and snappy...but it is out of form....but i admit that his really good....
Pls help me understand what is out of form about his front kick. Maybe you can help me improve my own front snap. Always looking for improvement. Thanks
He's very, very quick, ok. But: Many techniques are not clear enough. And that's not the point with traditional Karate! I'm missing often the beginning phase of the technique, Kokutsu Datchi is not back enough.
I'm surprised that he is world champion, I thought you have to do it better to become a world champion, but he is good after all, and he does a impressive kata. But not perfect :)
I have seen him perform in real life. Open Holland: I was there. And nobody is perfect however at the moment his is the best in kata. He is not perfect but he is extremely good.
Karate, empty hands, a way of life. Life changes. We are suppose to continue to practice to imporve ourselfs. When a karateka becomes "pefect", he has just failed. We all must continue to get better.
This guy REDEFINES karate, and this is how it should be: ourknowdlegde increases so our karate can be improved. Tradition is great but it is only a starting point.
Should we all not contribute to bringing karate further??? Mr Valdesi just shows the redefinition according to the Technical director of the Italian karate federation: mr P Aschieri. This is a 8th dan Sensei and professor in biomechanics and professor in traningmethods, both with a specialization in martial arts and karate specifically.
I would say he and the Italian Federation with Mr Valdesi as active member certainly are in a position to redefine karate....
Blah blah blah... "Redefine karate"?!? Give me a break! The fact that he's already an 8th Dan (at the tender age of 32!!!) says a lot about the quality and validity of his so-called "Italian karate federation"... Yeah he got the medals: but certainly not JKA medals... This guy wouldn't pass the first round in JKA All-Japan Championships.
I would say to you that Valdesi is 5th Dan not 8th. Know question why do you think he wouldn't pass first round at the JKA All Japan championships. I think he is much better than anyone in the JKA and so he became 2 times worldchampion!
5th dan, 8th dan, same bloody difference... (in JKA you don't get 5th dan until you've passed 40); the fact that you're saying "he is much better than anyone in the JKA" clearly shows you have no idea what you're talking about! anyway, good luck to you! and all the best in your karate!
i've watched that video of Italian team kata on your page, and it's not good: they're all doing kekomi jodan instead of kiage (a ridiculously high jodan kekomi, by the way, totally unnecessary), and the kicks are sluggish since they are not pulled back quickly enough; the kicks just stomp back on the floor, which breaks all the momentum in the next moves. See? this is what happens when Westerners build their own karate schools: standards dip to a pityfully low level.
And another well thought out post by our resident internet hero. If only he would join a competition himself then he might know what he's talking about.
What you fail to understand is that your precious JKA champions wouldn't get through the first round of even a national wkf championship. Different game, different rules. Why not go train and compete, in a JKA competition if you will, instead of trolling every WKF video.
Probably one of the most ridiculous comments we, on Youtube, have ever had the misfortune of reading. "My willy is bigger than yours", "My dad is bigger and stronger than yours"... If you are to make a point about your WKF, please -oh please- make your point a TECHNICALLY pertinent one. You can make a fool of yourself all you want. You've done that and that's fine. Next time, try to PERSUADE us that WKF, compared to JKA, is worth the stretch. Because this Valdesi guy sure doesn't. Best of luck.
Did I ever in my comment say that I was better than you? I just think that there are better ways to spend your time. If you don't like Valdesi, then why go and watch every single movie of his?
As to technical part. From the average JKA movie, perhaps you can give me a link to a good one, I see a lack of explosiveness, kime. There's also a lot of unecessary body movement, the head that bobs during techniques for example.
There's also a lack of crispness, techniques flow into eachother.
Noting the comments with interest between you and aiyer1989. Pardon my ignorance but what is WKF and JKA. I do GKR in Australia and on youtube alot of malicious people are less than nice about us. I like my GKR but i also like watching shotkan and Go Ju kata's and any other sort of martial arts. I am not the greatest karate ka but i enjoy what i do. This may even not be all that good to "experts" but it has it's merits (in my humble opinion). Have you seen the Michael Milon Unsu. It's brilliant
Oh yes: one last thing (this comment is not directed at you, my very dear aiyer1989 friend; I think we've all understood how sound your knowledge of karate is, and we thank you for your little comments). I would encourage EVERYBODY to look at the WKF's website: one will not miss to see how this organisation (to summarise very briefly) actually originated from the JKA, and is nothing more than a classic (and poor)European attempt to appropriate a strong technique (JKA) and make it there own.
tradition this, tradition that. That's all you hear from many of these guys. He's the fucking World Champion! Are you really that blinded that you think you do it better than him? Why not show us your kata and we'll see how good you are.
And, in my opinion, it is a lot harder to do kata like Valdesi than to do it traditionally. Have you seen traditional kata kicks? and traditional kata is slower and with higher stances. Its just not as impressive. lol, alright, that is the end of my rant.
Okay, some of you are saying he isn't traditional. This might be true, but he is competing in Holland, not Japan. He is a competitor, not a scholar. Yes, he is not perfect in all senses, but obviously he is putting emphasis on the right things if he is a world champion. When you are training for tournaments like that, you do your homework and you find out how to win. Depending on where you compete in the world things are different.
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monicalaura2011 1 month ago
I dont understand why there so many ppl out their who just cant differentiate between sports[wkf] and traditional kata.
espg4 2 months ago
Catalyn080... u dont know what your talking about.. get your close minded jka garbage out of here.
J0EY0924 4 months ago
His front stance seems a little too far back, no? Back leg is too bent. Just the way I was taught. No disrespect intended.
deosullivan3 8 months ago
sharpest gojushiho sho i've ever seen
J0EY0924 8 months ago
@J0EY0924 sharp is not what we need in kata ...the principal characteristics of kata are the Kime /spirit + technique ..not speed ..if you use to do kata with speed you don't show the technique ..and the breathing ...he does not show spirit again ....
catalyn080 6 months ago
@catalyn080 those principles are in his kata as well.... spirit is not measured via screaming .. lol it must be seen in person.. spirit is what gives a spectators chills as they watch... you sound like another fool stuck on that open circuits bullshit.
J0EY0924 5 months ago
@J0EY0924 spirit means kime ..when you do kata ..you need to be confident ..and to do breathing technique ...because he accelerate the kata means he can not breath as fast as he moves ...and here comes the fact he doesn't have spirit..after you do an move you need to be fixed a second on that technique..to show us the technique ...people can not understand much if he haste ,,,for that is kata ...to show how better you can do the techniques ....not how fast ...
catalyn080 5 months ago
@J0EY0924 check sensei frank brennan's nijushiho kata ..and you will see what means to be spirit ..to be focus ...to breath ...some parts of the kata are very fast ..and then sloww ...and then again ..
catalyn080 5 months ago
@catalyn080 LOL sharp is not what we need in kata??? you're a close minded full.. probably another idiot from the JKA or on the open circuit.....
J0EY0924 4 months ago
@J0EY0924 the technique is not shown correctly and the spirit because of the acceleration of the kata ...you need to be a stone statue for 1 second for every move
catalyn080 4 months ago
I fell asleep by the third move Zzzzzzz
WestBfella 1 year ago
Luca is really good karateist. CalaD33 when you said that he needs to open hes kata to less understanding audience ... this is competition he must do it strong, quick and good technique and he do it best he can ... but different story is on his seminars I was on one of them and he treat us like young karateists and he learnd me so much so he's very good for chilldren od my age ( 10,11,12,13,14,15) luca is the best (:
Shackverson 1 year ago
That's very good !!!
But I think it's a little too slow... 2 minutes and 30 it's too much !!
adrianachiabrera 1 year ago
allah yehmeek ! :D
God bless you master !
aliswaidan89 1 year ago
Muito fera !!!
misael682 1 year ago
i think kung fu is better but karate is super good too
Scrumbrumlah123 1 year ago
TSUGUO SAKUMOTO
LUCA VALDESI
MICHAEL MILON
all three are on the top of competitive kata practionners
zenforce77 1 year ago
TSUGUO SAKUMOTO
LUCA VALDESI
MICHAEL MILLON
all three are on the top of competitive kata practionners
zenforce77 1 year ago
very good! what he get and keep up the good work.
hot2dachicks 1 year ago
what is the email of luca valdesi....
raze998 1 year ago
this preformens i great
i mean Luca Valdesi is very good and strong
he makes the katas very good whit no misstake
skopjem 1 year ago
Wow -- it's sad to see so many negative comments towards such a great practitioner. At first glance you naysayers sound jealous or bitter that you're either not as strong as he is, or are no longer as strong as you yourself once were.
The purposes of kata are so numbered that it's really not fair to call him strictly a performer because you don't understand his interpretation of the kata -- perhaps you should reevaluate your own training and practice instead of attack another.
deckyrd 1 year ago
This was an amazing performance. What a great kata and what an tremendous practicioner.
DannyKid1000 1 year ago
fantastic kata! ;)
LoLLoDKA 1 year ago
Haha, true :) Excellent kata.
239Montana 1 year ago
wow. i wish i could do katas like dis.. :\
he's SO good!
shawtycoolio 2 years ago
He's my idol. I barely wait to go on the European Championship.
kicedz12 2 years ago 2
I agree that the pace may have been a bit slow in parts. Overall, I think this is a great performance.
ThaHonestTruth 2 years ago 2
Too slow. You could go for a pee half way through this, and still get back in time for the end. Watch Osaka.
RYJAD27 2 years ago
It's not about Luca doin dramas on the tatami, and/or loving himself. Its about show! Why do we need show? To have more spectators on the competitions, and to have more watchers sitting before the TV. If you want karate to be popular, you need fans. This is how you make fans. Period.
wlknsn 2 years ago
perfect!
gasgatiric 2 years ago
why bother with trivial , aspects of karate like embusen,just gets in the way of your posing lol.
hssp900 2 years ago
lol--thats true he did stop about 6' short of his starting position.
calibansfury 2 years ago
He's a little sporty for me, but i'd kill to have transitions like that from the zenkutsu dachi to the kiba dachi.
lukkiop 2 years ago 2
He is undoubtedly a great athlete, but the simple fact that he finish his kata one meter far from the point he has started, implies that something is wrong.
NZQRC 2 years ago 2
@ NZQRC
The notion that all kata must finish in the same place that it began is ludicrous. Attempting to adjust your own practice of kata so that you do will only hinder your training.
NishidoKa 2 years ago
Ludicrous?? You may want to re-think that. According to Masatoshi Nakayama (Funakoshi's student who authored the 'Best Karate Series' of books), there are 6 important points to Shotokan 'Kata'. Number 2 on the list is "beginning and end"; The kata must begin and end at the same point on the embusen.
You may not practice by those same standards, but to call Funakoshi's teachings 'ludicrous' is very absent-minded.
NDshotokan 2 years ago
See NDshotokan's response. It's far from ludicrous, it's a fundamental goal. It's why Chinte has the silly hops in it. The kata was incomplete, but the importance of returning to the starting point remains. The indication is that if you follow the designated embusen, and your stances are consistent, you should end at where you started. If you don't, chances are you're tightening your stances throughout the kata, and ultimately coming up short. It's textbook from the masters.
calibansfury 2 years ago 2
Obviously not a clue about Shotokan then. Watch Nobuaki Kanazawa, he blows your theory away and he also blows valdesi away. Also, the Kata above is Goju Shiho Dai
redsunkarate 2 years ago
The kata above, such as, the kata in this video? If so, it's not Dai. It's Sho.
If I am mistaken in which you were not talking about this video, then disregard this comment.
kurtzisa7 2 years ago 2
This is Gojushiho Sho according to JKA. Kanazawa Kancho changed the names on the two kata reversing the Sho and Dai as he felt that the greater (Dai) movements were in the kata which was named Gojushiho Sho under the JKA.
This demonstration by Mr. Valdesi is not traditional. No hip movement, no kime, too slow, too fast in other places, stances too deep that he has to adjust his feet to correct, alignment of feet in kiba dachi is off, leg tension is incorrect, etc. It's only a performance
johnbsan 1 year ago
@johnbsan, you should put a clip of yourself doing this kata on you tube for us so that we can compare and see the differences. I do not have an educated enough eye to see everything that you discuss; comparing the two of you would be very useful for those of us have so much to learn.
OreosRock555 1 year ago
@OreosRock555 I would only be demonstrating the traditional form which is so different to that of Sport Karate. Being twice the age of Mr. Valdesi I could not complete with his athletism - he's superb at what he does, which is why he wins the Sports Karate compeitions, but fails when it comes to the traditional competitions - he entered but did not place in a recent World Championship in traditional karate.
johnbsan 1 year ago
@johnbsan What you fail to mention, is that the opposite is just as true.
Were any traditional karate-ka to join a wkf competition, they would not be able to get past the first round. The views on what would be a good kata are simply too different.
They could do the perfect kata, under the rulings of their organisation, and still place last.
aiyer1989 1 year ago
It's great this kata is my fav, but shouldn't be a suryashi at 1:55?
DJWheed1 2 years ago
Muy bien hecho el kata , pero una solo cosa , si no me equivoco ¿ese no es el gojushiho dai ? . Buscalo .
leonhayunosolo 2 years ago
excelente
nibukay 2 years ago
Competition karate, sensei Kase would be so disagree with that...he doesn't make right the kata, the rithm is so bad at first.
Meltfrac 2 years ago
this helps my detail thanks for uploading this
kesslerdrummer93 2 years ago
YAY im gonno see him in 3 weeks=D he is coming to ontario tournament (grand prix 4) on march 29 and im gonno see him=D=D
iluvLP4life 2 years ago
At what ?
hssp900 2 years ago
luca valdesi is a master
dav32oo8 2 years ago 3
yo no se de karate pero tremenda sincronizacion de los movimiento , armonia y fuerza tremenda kata felisidades
murtypury 2 years ago
addeex1 Dai means Major, Sho means Minor and Ho means Steps
Shotokankarateguy 3 years ago
his speed is excellent and so are his hands. his kicks are bad, his foot stays hanging in the air (floppy) during the kick
Nesszors 3 years ago
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Ersanea 2 years ago
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Seriously you cant say that he`s kicks are bad... then you havent seen many kicks. Afther he`s kick is over he`s foot stands in the air for a short time before he`s body pushes forward. I think he does that with purpose in kata... to make the kicks more visible. Thats he`s style.
Ersanea 2 years ago
i just love karate
i now that im a girl but it's ok
i think that all people who do karate should take a look of this video and see how good is luca and we could try to be that good that he is
Andreya95 3 years ago
i respectfully disagree with what said...we should try to improve ourselves only by comparing with us...u will never achieve perfection if u compare yourself with somebody else
stf092 2 years ago
@Andreya95 don't try to emulate him please unless your aim is to win tournaments. If you want to practice karate in the way that it was created - for self defence, health and character development then there are many better people you could emulate.
bertthepickle 1 year ago
ma le posizioni nn sn troppo lunghe?!? cmq è fortissimo!!!!
simyy4ever 3 years ago
se le posizoni rimangono lunghe ma costanti vanno bene! no per niente è campione;)
Nene260390 3 years ago
be qst sicuramente.. io parlo da ignorante.. k sn sl cintura marrone! infatti resta fortissimo!!! :)
simyy4ever 3 years ago
this is my best kata... i just won double gold medals during the cebu city olpympics..
enneiluj11 3 years ago
Then he's a performer, not a karateka. It's one thing to have tournaments to popularize karate, its another to pander to the crowd by bastardizing the kata. I'm jealous that I'll never have his talent, but I'll settle for doing *karate* (that's my attempt at emphasizing the word without italics) rather than what he degrades it to.
skimarcus 3 years ago 2
that's directed towards victoriuchiha's response by the way, for some reason it put my "reply" up at the top.
skimarcus 3 years ago
I wouldn't say that Luca is just a performer.
Whenever I email him, he's very humble in his replies, and humility is one of the characteristic traits of a true karateka. He performs the way he does because it's for entertainment and for competition. Come to think about it, he wouldn't be a world champion if he didn't have discipline, another characteristic trait. So, I wouldn't say he's not a karateka.
loyalarcher 2 years ago 22
how did you get his email??? is amezing to have that contac..... he so good karateka i´m her fan!
jolieladyp 2 years ago
her mardito her ........ he's
RJHB13 2 years ago
"The ultimate aim of karate lies not in victory nor defeat,
but in the perfection of the character of its participants"
Gichin Funakoshi Sensei
the true meaning of the karate is lost:(
most people practice karate only because they think one day they'll be like jackie chan or jet li
stf092 2 years ago
victoriuchiha, just because I don't have his raw skill,doesn't mean I can't recognize when he's doing something wrong. It also doesn't make him immune to criticism. It's a shame his insane amount of talent is wasted with flashy tricks to make his kata seem better. Funakoshi Sensei rolls in his grave every time Valdesi steps into the dojo.
So I'll stop criticizing him when he stops making a joke out of my passion.
skimarcus 3 years ago 2
questo è un kata da 4 dan veramente molto b ello e lungo 59 passi mi pare
tezzuya79 3 years ago
;) ciao amico, la traduzione letterale di gojushiho-sho è 54 piccoli passi ;) (goju:50; shi:4; ho: passi; sho: piccolo)
paolo978 3 years ago
go=5 Ju=10 shi=4
But do you know that dai means?
addeex1 3 years ago
54 little steps ;) try to cont and let me know
paolo978 3 years ago
Gojushi means 54 and ho means little. But what does 'sho' mean? And in Gojushiho Dai, what does 'dai' mean?
addeex1 3 years ago
well, gojushi=54
ho=steps
sho=little
dai=big
paolo978 3 years ago
this is my kata... what a magnific interpretation! what a power and control!
e poi è strafighissimo!!!!
piccolack 3 years ago
I'm gonna hit myself with the draw hand every time so that it makes a lot of noise, and hopefully people will like me better.
skimarcus 3 years ago
again, why hit the stomach with the returning hand on the double punch kick punch at the start of the kata... i just dont get it... for someone with so much raw potential to throw it away for some power reducing showmanship... makes me sad :(:( still a great performance doe...
mokuso666 3 years ago
because that's the form. Form is there to remember the tradition, if your more intersted in the application then you should study the oyo or bunkai.
CalaD33 3 years ago
got you now, you mean the slap on the stomache with his hand... yeah the movements are stylised for effect but kata is open to interpretation so why not make it more accessible to a less understanding audience by make it more entertaining? Kata in essence isn't that applicable in a true power/defence/attacking role more a symbol. In itself its more like a story than an instruction. Know what I mean? I respect your point tho.
CalaD33 3 years ago 7
@CalaD33 well he slaps his gi to ensure that he can 'create' the semblance of powerful techniques consistently. It's a shame that he has to resort to cheap tricks when he could be spending his time creating the real power that would give him the snap he recreates theatrically.
He may have the power already but he wants to ensure a snap 100% of the time. It's shameful really. The judges should mark him down for that.
bertthepickle 1 year ago
excellent Luca, kimé+Finde mouvement tres bien FINI .Tout les jours je regarde ce kata
kamel357 3 years ago
I like this kata.
martexgreat 3 years ago
I'm are doing this kata at competitions + Empi, Heian Yondan and Heian Sendan. :)
CassieTheKarategirl 3 years ago
wich kind of competitions? i know that we have to do the basic ones (Heian) but i haven´t seen somebody yet doing one of the Heians at the first round and after that Empi or Gojushiho Sho at less in all the competitions that i have been don´t.
Ingcol 3 years ago
i do heian godan, empi, sochin, gojushisho/bassai sho
Trapp1993 3 years ago
pelo que andei lendo a respeito de Michel Milon ele se for por overdose de Heroína, mas pra falar a verdade acredito ser de cocaína pois heroina deixa marcas nos lugares onde ha a punção pra se injetar a droga
RikkyRider 3 years ago
Victor concordo plenamente contigo o francês Michel Milon acredito que como karateca ( em kata ) irá demorar muito tempo para ser superado, pena que se foi tão jovem aos 29 anos de idade já como 4º dan (para você ver como a droga de modo geral é prejudicial seja ela qual for,pois voce sabe ele morreu de overdose não se sabe de qual droga) ele tinha estilo (muito estilo) oss !
katashotokan 3 years ago
Rodrigo,comento aqui sobre o kata gojushiho sho do valdesi, o Luca Valdesi é um grande campeão mundial (WKF) e não é por acaso,porem sua grande especialidade é o kata gankaku,em se trantando deste gojushiho sho ele peca (1) com sua base zenkutsu-dachi um pouco alongada,(2) ryô ken zenpô e heikô ni nobasu, (3) ele não obedece a linha de embusen,que para um atleta de seu nível é uma falha grande (ao se executar qualquer um dos gojushiho sho ou dai tem que tomar cuidado com este detalhe, oss !
katashotokan 3 years ago
Why does everyone give a fuck about this guy so much that they need to start debates over fuckin' Youtube?
ctrainyu 3 years ago
tiene demasiados detalles para ser campeon del mundo...
creo que si es campeon mundial es porque no existe nada mejor en la WKF .. lo que no significa que sea realmente EL MEJOR de todo el mundo ... es una pena que el campeon mundial de WKF tenga errores tecnicos dignos de un niño pequeño...
exlost25 3 years ago
Exelente atleta, si tubiera un "instructor" (no un entrenador)que le haga ver sus pequeños detalles como en el segundo 48 que se le suelta el hikita despues de la patada seria mucho mejor y podria competis con los mejores de Japon.
Sensei Kagawa le encontraria muchos detalles.
jksmexico 3 years ago
ehh este tipo en realidad es el webo pelao en los katas....!!!
vaco1850 3 years ago
Falta kimê nesse kata... fora isso, a técnica está muito boa.
thataifreitas 3 years ago
z spoons,i dont think we need a lesson in the history of karate from you, you have admitted yourself you dont even know what the wkf is, or who the jka are.you are a member of a group that is held in contempt in the karate world for its practises, hence the name mc dojo.
hssp900 3 years ago
This is great to watch but reading your comments re zspoons all i can think is that you are a sad pathetic piece of excrement. You are a disgrace to yourself and whatever style you do. I like lots of bits of all styles and one can learn from all if you have an opne mind. Zspoons points were valid. You are so narrow minded and must be plain jealous of GKR. Take your head from out of your arse, on second thoughts just disappear up it.
Budo9991 3 years ago
hey, its the mouth warrior again,with his big butch trash talk,how can you take seriously people who call,shiko dachi "THE SUMO STANCE" and sanchin dachi"THE PIDGEON TOE STANCE" keep working hard and get your orange belt, then you can become a gkr instuctor,uncle bob must thank the lord,for muggs like you.
hssp900 3 years ago
I note with irony that it was you mouthed of about GKR when some GKR people were just saying how they found this clip and others interesting.They werent rude and crude like you. You are a disgrace and your pathetic bleatings will not stop GKR. GKR has been going some 30 years and is huge. You are just jealous of its success. And are you telling me that sanchin dachi is not what is classically called a pidgeon toed stance? Your a nong and dispite you i will like and appreciate other styles.
Budo9991 3 years ago
Hey hssp900 you are a disgrace. I did shotkan for 10 years and loved it then moved house. Did GKR for 10 years and loved it then moved again. Now back to doing shotokan again and loving it again. All styles have benefit. GKR is a legitmate style. Your rantings tell me you have missed many points of Karate. I suppose you also feel that Karate is superior to all other martial arts? Please if you do shotokan please grow up, otherwise you are a blight on karate & the shotokan style in particular
amiable33 3 years ago
is it legitimate to allow novices to teach,then hide their true grade from paying students with a phoney black and white belt,no that is a discrace,getting your own students to give you a seventh dan (because nobody else would)advertising yourselves as a genuine self defense group,( using murdered children) i could go on and on,if you treated your own students with honesty and resect you might get some back in the karate world.
hssp900 3 years ago
What an ignorant person you are. Its obvious that you are just a bitter, twisted and jealous person. There would be a point to counter your wild accusations if there was any chance you would listen. Sadly it is all too obvious you would come back with some new rant. Oohh wait a minute do you reckon Koncho was involved in the Kennedy assasination or is he really the smoking man from the xfiles. Easy solution for you. Stop watching GKR stuff, get your own life. God bless
amiable33 3 years ago
hssp900 you give legitimate Ma's a bad nmae. And i don't mean the small minded and purile few who slag of at different styles of karate or different styles of MA. I mean the vast majority of us who apprecaite and "get" the philosophies of karate and other MA's. Having done 3 styles of karate (including GKR) i can say i like them all, got so,mething out of all and enjoyed many friendships in each style. I imagine you don't go well on religious and philosophical differences. Well allthe best.
IronChief99 3 years ago
same old speech ,right out of the handbook, you cant deny the practises you use, so you try to stifle debate,you know using begginers to teach is wrong,but still you continue.shame on you.
hssp900 3 years ago
I am totaly agreeing with "bigmacintown".
Traditional is better than modern.
Japan is better than EuroAmerica.
Valdesi may be good.. but not in karate.
Thank you
adhamsabree 3 years ago
When karate started it was taken from somehere and changed. Then over time things change also. At the start their was no tradition. A tradition starts from somewhere as new at one point in time. Look all around. Is any sport the same as once it was. The olympics are professional. Look at golf, look at the modern sportsman. I believe you don't throw the past ou because its old. Conversly all that is new is not bad. Japan may have "invented" karate but heh others may now be doing it better.
ZSpoons 3 years ago
he really does deserve his few world champion titles
Trapp1993 3 years ago
no se... tiene algo que no me gusta.
Tiene muy buen tiempo y ritmo, pero no es muy tecnico... me molesta un poco verlo, se desarma mucho al cambiar de posicion...
exlost25 3 years ago 2
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mike5789 3 years ago
typical italian.... all he is worried about is what he looks like. there is no zanshin... the draging of the foot on the front kicks. It shows a serious lack of technique his inability to retract or "snap" his foot back during these kicks... he lands like a sack of potatos!!!
He has so much potential but its lost by his attitude.
He will never be fit to clean Frank Brennan's shoes.
And Frank Brennan could also fight. So well that the JKA built a team to stop him, and failed. :)
mokuso666 3 years ago
What are you on about? Seriously. No malice please explain. FYI. I am in Australia, do GKR but love all sorts fo good karate. Your comments on the surface seem a bit zenophobic and myopic. I may be wrong but as i said please explain and what is your level etc etc
ZSpoons 3 years ago
Valdesi tiene velocidad, tiene tiempo de cada tecnica, posee la armonia de llevar las partes lentas, relajadas y las partes rapidas, pero ahi es donde le falta algo mas de potencia, el kime, pero de por si, tiene un muy bueno gojushiho-sho, pero puede mejorarlo.
Haisen 3 years ago
pongan sus GOJUSHIHO-SHO's!! cara rotas!! no esta muy tecnico pero esta recontra firme!! q mas!!
WaskAnimeFansub 3 years ago
En efecto, con esos comentarios tal pareciera que ustedes hacen mejor kata, y si lo hacen, pues quitenle el titulo a Valdesi, obvio no es el único en hacer bien las cosas...
deartsguitar 3 years ago
En efecto, con esos comentarios tal pareciera que ustedes hacen mejor kata, y si lo hacen, pues quitenle el titulo a Valdesi, obvio no es el único en hacer bien las cosas...
deartsguitar 3 years ago
los que critican son jueces o que pdo??? pinches comentarios mamones mejor aprendan algo y agan mejor su kata si es que asen vdd tal vez si se equivoco pero somos humanos...pff ademas el wey es campeon de kata no por algo lo es =P
sirkrwling 3 years ago
Si kereis ver a alguien k hace el kata mejor buscar la dle sensei ruben cernuda y aprender k kitando un pekño fallo d estabilidad el kata es perfecto
Sinrry69 4 years ago
Isnt it last kata?
ExFluxx100 4 years ago
muy lindo
tulem 4 years ago
un grande campione ke ha fatto grande il karate in italia
picio93 4 years ago
ma gosa
picio93 4 years ago
che spettacolo daje valde daje
simone221 4 years ago
kata ruim de mais, mae-gueri curto coisa feia, base tudo estranha, esse kata ta ruim
ciofe04 4 years ago
/cry thats so sad
nel3000 4 years ago
Is this not Gojushiho-Dai rather than Gojushiho-Sho?
DonalPhelan 4 years ago
Ignore that question, brain not engaged while keyboard plugged in.
DonalPhelan 4 years ago
non buono
mkman100 4 years ago
:D my new fav kata ... valdesi n lucio maurino r great !
jakov123 4 years ago
hey jakov, go jack off
xiao5136 4 years ago
A parte il Mae-geri direi che è veramente un bel Kata.
Rotazioni magnifiche!!
KageShito 4 years ago
among other problems hes maegeri is fucked up plus that really bad turn in hibadatchi is showing that valdesi doesn't deserve 1st place at wold championship...maby alot of u think that hes a "god" but hes loaded whit problems n shortcuts(made only to impress referees)..
dark1tdr 4 years ago
he finishes the last strike in a cat stance and i'm pretty sure the feet are supposed to be cross at that point
shotokan213 4 years ago
bad kata
mike5789 4 years ago
zenkutsu dachi troppo lungo secondo me
bomboloneallacrema 4 years ago
That's because the aspect ratio of the video is distorted. (Sorry, I can only read Italian, not write it %-)
hYdratatiOn 4 years ago
Secondo il mio modesto parere, Mae-geri ridicolo, Kokutsu dachi imprecisa ogni volta e molti punti in cui l'esecuzione è troppo frettolosa... non da campionato del mondo...
UnsuJunkie 4 years ago
siccome è campione del mondo......ci sarà qualke motivo ciao amico!!!
TOCO94 3 years ago
bueno es el campeon, porque nadie acepta que es el mejor n estos momentos en katas tradicionales WKF
pedrdele 4 years ago
perdon con todo respeto tecnicamente valdesi esta muy mal tiene un infinito de defecto , los cuales son comunes en cinturones blancos. espero puedes apreciar mejor los detalles. osu!
mike5789 4 years ago
Pero que dices anormal? Valdesi es dios en Kata, de modo que si taaaanto sabes de Shotokan, por favor, comienza a enumerarlos; porque tio...
Circonius 4 years ago
1.- al patear abre los codos
2.- su jikite esta casi a la altura de la tetilla
3.-en el nukite no hay ritmo de sambon
4.-mal embusen
5.- kokutsu rodilla no cae encima del dedo gordo del pie.
bueno espero haberte aclarado alguna dudas.
mike5789 4 years ago
se sabe que la tecnica no es lo que mas depurado tiene, pero la potencia hace q el minimo q le falta de tecnica sea imperceptible.. para mi es un monstruo
rumsala 4 years ago
valdesi no tiene potencia lo q posee es un buena velocidad , si tuviera potencia tendria kime y su velocidad esta encacillada en si mal jikite dado q las tecnicas se haceb mas cortas y de por si menos trayectoria a la vista parecen mas rapidas.
mike5789 4 years ago
y por cierto no hagas falsos dioses y el anormal no soy yo. OS.
mike5789 4 years ago
i'm sorry to say but if that is the guy that is world champion then the standard of kata in the wkf isn't very high.....he cannot even come close to the jka world champions
madgecic 4 years ago
he did something funny on the second chamber of the front kick, i think.
shotokan213 4 years ago
this kata is good, 1 of the main things wrong it though is the FRONT SNAP KICK IS WAY OUT OF FORM, OH YEAH AND THE VID IS KINDA SQUASHED
dethdragon999 4 years ago
....yes his definitely good but did you notice his front kick?....maybe its quick and snappy...but it is out of form....but i admit that his really good....
japoysmsm 4 years ago
Pls help me understand what is out of form about his front kick. Maybe you can help me improve my own front snap. Always looking for improvement. Thanks
ikoshodan 4 years ago
Boys, which belt do you have? WHITE?
He's very, very quick, ok. But: Many techniques are not clear enough. And that's not the point with traditional Karate! I'm missing often the beginning phase of the technique, Kokutsu Datchi is not back enough.
I'm surprised that he is world champion, I thought you have to do it better to become a world champion, but he is good after all, and he does a impressive kata. But not perfect :)
Xtoph1980 4 years ago
Nobody is perfect... question: did you see him perform in real life?.. My guess is no
elmokataista 4 years ago
No, I haven't. Like I said, I would be happy to be half quick like him!
Xtoph1980 4 years ago
I have seen him perform in real life. Open Holland: I was there. And nobody is perfect however at the moment his is the best in kata. He is not perfect but he is extremely good.
aiyer1989 4 years ago
Karate, empty hands, a way of life. Life changes. We are suppose to continue to practice to imporve ourselfs. When a karateka becomes "pefect", he has just failed. We all must continue to get better.
karatecurtis1 4 years ago
Nobody is perfect, but I wonder who can perform as well as Mr Valdesi
elmokataista 4 years ago
This guy REDEFINES karate, and this is how it should be: ourknowdlegde increases so our karate can be improved. Tradition is great but it is only a starting point.
elmokataista 4 years ago
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8kt8 4 years ago
Should we all not contribute to bringing karate further??? Mr Valdesi just shows the redefinition according to the Technical director of the Italian karate federation: mr P Aschieri. This is a 8th dan Sensei and professor in biomechanics and professor in traningmethods, both with a specialization in martial arts and karate specifically.
I would say he and the Italian Federation with Mr Valdesi as active member certainly are in a position to redefine karate....
elmokataista 4 years ago
Blah blah blah... "Redefine karate"?!? Give me a break! The fact that he's already an 8th Dan (at the tender age of 32!!!) says a lot about the quality and validity of his so-called "Italian karate federation"... Yeah he got the medals: but certainly not JKA medals... This guy wouldn't pass the first round in JKA All-Japan Championships.
bigmacintown 3 years ago
I would say to you that Valdesi is 5th Dan not 8th. Know question why do you think he wouldn't pass first round at the JKA All Japan championships. I think he is much better than anyone in the JKA and so he became 2 times worldchampion!
Karadota 3 years ago
5th dan, 8th dan, same bloody difference... (in JKA you don't get 5th dan until you've passed 40); the fact that you're saying "he is much better than anyone in the JKA" clearly shows you have no idea what you're talking about! anyway, good luck to you! and all the best in your karate!
bigmacintown 3 years ago
i've watched that video of Italian team kata on your page, and it's not good: they're all doing kekomi jodan instead of kiage (a ridiculously high jodan kekomi, by the way, totally unnecessary), and the kicks are sluggish since they are not pulled back quickly enough; the kicks just stomp back on the floor, which breaks all the momentum in the next moves. See? this is what happens when Westerners build their own karate schools: standards dip to a pityfully low level.
bigmacintown 3 years ago
And another well thought out post by our resident internet hero. If only he would join a competition himself then he might know what he's talking about.
What you fail to understand is that your precious JKA champions wouldn't get through the first round of even a national wkf championship. Different game, different rules. Why not go train and compete, in a JKA competition if you will, instead of trolling every WKF video.
aiyer1989 3 years ago
Probably one of the most ridiculous comments we, on Youtube, have ever had the misfortune of reading. "My willy is bigger than yours", "My dad is bigger and stronger than yours"... If you are to make a point about your WKF, please -oh please- make your point a TECHNICALLY pertinent one. You can make a fool of yourself all you want. You've done that and that's fine. Next time, try to PERSUADE us that WKF, compared to JKA, is worth the stretch. Because this Valdesi guy sure doesn't. Best of luck.
bigmacintown 3 years ago
Did I ever in my comment say that I was better than you? I just think that there are better ways to spend your time. If you don't like Valdesi, then why go and watch every single movie of his?
As to technical part. From the average JKA movie, perhaps you can give me a link to a good one, I see a lack of explosiveness, kime. There's also a lot of unecessary body movement, the head that bobs during techniques for example.
There's also a lack of crispness, techniques flow into eachother.
aiyer1989 3 years ago
Noting the comments with interest between you and aiyer1989. Pardon my ignorance but what is WKF and JKA. I do GKR in Australia and on youtube alot of malicious people are less than nice about us. I like my GKR but i also like watching shotkan and Go Ju kata's and any other sort of martial arts. I am not the greatest karate ka but i enjoy what i do. This may even not be all that good to "experts" but it has it's merits (in my humble opinion). Have you seen the Michael Milon Unsu. It's brilliant
ZSpoons 3 years ago
Oh yes: one last thing (this comment is not directed at you, my very dear aiyer1989 friend; I think we've all understood how sound your knowledge of karate is, and we thank you for your little comments). I would encourage EVERYBODY to look at the WKF's website: one will not miss to see how this organisation (to summarise very briefly) actually originated from the JKA, and is nothing more than a classic (and poor)European attempt to appropriate a strong technique (JKA) and make it there own.
bigmacintown 3 years ago
tradition this, tradition that. That's all you hear from many of these guys. He's the fucking World Champion! Are you really that blinded that you think you do it better than him? Why not show us your kata and we'll see how good you are.
aiyer1989 4 years ago
valdesi è bravo ma se c'era milon non c'erano cazzi...
german085 4 years ago
And, in my opinion, it is a lot harder to do kata like Valdesi than to do it traditionally. Have you seen traditional kata kicks? and traditional kata is slower and with higher stances. Its just not as impressive. lol, alright, that is the end of my rant.
ccox222 4 years ago
Okay, some of you are saying he isn't traditional. This might be true, but he is competing in Holland, not Japan. He is a competitor, not a scholar. Yes, he is not perfect in all senses, but obviously he is putting emphasis on the right things if he is a world champion. When you are training for tournaments like that, you do your homework and you find out how to win. Depending on where you compete in the world things are different.
ccox222 4 years ago
Small correction: he competes all over the world, including Japan ;)
He beat Japan in the world championships...
elmokataista 4 years ago
Luca Valdesi does a crisp, low stance version of Gojushiho Sho. Its a pleasure to watch.
drlazer 4 years ago
que feas las posiciones tan bajas a mi criterio no esta bien ejecutado el kata os!!
mike5789 4 years ago
The guy is flippin' World Champion, but it seems like there's a few Solar System Champions commenting here. I'd sure like to see their kata...
SugarPhallus 4 years ago
posicion muy baja malo
mike5789 4 years ago