As an X owner of a stock 05 LS2 M6 GTO.Best I did was 12.97@109MPH which was faster than 95% of other Goats I ran both A4 and M6.Unfortunately I hung around with 5 GN nuts and I was usually slower by at least a second(10 car lengths). If I saw a 1.37 60' pop up by a GN, I was usually off the gas by the 330' mark. Why fuckin bother continuing was my modo LOL. GTO's, especially the manual are a bitch to get below 2.0-1.9 60'. Even with a DR a 1.89 was a perfect launch for me. Too much wheel hop
I was going to buy an LS2 GTO. I spent the down payment money on a 1987 Grand National that wasn't running. I got help getting it going from the local Buick club. Smartest decision I ever made! This thing hauls so much ass and was getting me thumbs up from strangers before I even installed bumper fillers. I love turbo Buicks.
Driver Mod in the GTO. Drag Radials and you manage a fucking 13.8. Thats fucking pathetic. A slap in the face to all GTO owners! Stock I've seen 13.28 from the LS2
@adokenk3nnbasil - thanks. I sold it last year. I miss it sometimes...but other times I'm reminded of how hard it was doing things on only 6 cylinders.
@pwnapoluzastudios Yes, I got an '02 Trans Am. Not to race, though. I haven't really been to the track since I sold the GN. The TA's rear and clutch are too fragile to effectively race it regularly. I may beef it up some day, but for now it's just a fun car to own.
@pwnapoluzastudios My dad has a '99 SS and my brother has an '01 SS (after having sold his '02 WS6 TA). It's hard to resist the simplicity and power of a small block Chevy. I have an LT1 in my '94 Fleetwood limo. Was thinking about hot-rodding that just for shock value, but it's stock for now.
@boost4fun Doing your best?? Knowing you gave it your all and improved your performance over last time?? If you think 'the win' is everything, I truly feel sorry for you - you either don't deal with disappointment well, or are a delusional person who cannot admit their own short comings and possibly you need some mental health help...
@marcomariaz26 wow. You performed a complete psychoanalysis based on twisting a single sentence response to your nonsensical statement totally out of context. Brilliant. Again, in this video I won - this is the context in which you made your statement and to which I responded. Based on what you see in the video, how is that not "ftw"?
makes me really want to restore my GN ('87 GN with 144k miles grandma gave to me after it was sitting for 10 years) now i need to do a whole shit load of work to it
the grand national gnx hits 0-60 in 4.7 sec. that's the exact same time as the 2010 camaro ss! and 0.2 sec faster than the mustang gt. imagine how beastly this car was in its prime... this car owned the 80's!
so much arguing,if one person says they have a gn then whos to say they dont? i have 2 trucks,is somebody gonna come on here and say i dont? stop with the bickering,you sound like a buncha prepubecent girls on here
@alakazam2929 theres noway u have two trucks! lol but i will admit that when i bought mine from a man in north carolina it was 12000 i had to get 4000 from my granddad to pay for it and it needed alot of restoration work. And it was just a grand national not a gnx. but i see what your saying u guys argue too much
I love the sound of the turbo and the look of the GNs
but that LS series engine sounds SICK along with the stick shift opion and the comfort and awesome driving of the GTO make it that much of a better car
the gnx or just stock grand national is faster but its not horsepower that gets you down the track its torque. but props to the vehicle i own an 85 t-type in restoration
A stock GNX would waste a stock gto. It has more torque, about same power, and a hell of a lot less weight. average quarter times were 13.3 @ 103ish back in '87 bone stock
Stock GNX only has 270 hp buddy. GTOs have around 350-425 hp depending on which motor. GNX is fast even if it weighs almost 4gs, and only has 270 hp. It was the fastest production car in 1987 and was discontinued due to the fact that it was able to beat the vettes of the same year and the vettes were suppose to be the fastest sports car GM offered.
yup.. i got a 87... chevy was bitchin that a buick was destroying g.m.'s flagship sports car "corvette" in 85,86,87... instead of bitching they should have done there homework..
@cavscoutmp GM did some homework, IE the Typhoon and Cyclone but yea the GN's smoked all and continue to impress even against the new class of muscle cars.
yeah just sucks that every time they come out with a car thats worth buying, they quit making it.. IE the typhoon,cyclone, grand national, camaro, firebird-transam, even though they bought it back "camaro"... there was a rumor they were gonna bring back the g.n. in 05-06-07, rumored it was gonna be a twin turbo v-6 w/ a est 400-450 h.p. id liked to have seen it..
THey where rated at 270 but if you look at a an old car and driver mag where they tested the GNX it actually put 300WHP. meaning the car has around 330 crank hp
In 87 it was the QUICKEST production car, not the FASTEST. And main reason it was discontenued was because the Regal went to a FWD platform and the diff wouldnt handle the power. The reason they didnt try to make it work was because it was outperforming the Vette
really you've seen McClaren dyno sheets like i have? I know it was rated at 276hp. That was the most GM would allow Buick to rate the GNX because it was destroying the vette. I dont mean to insult you guys but i know a lot more about these cars than u do. most gnx's produced 300-310 to the wheels from ASC. even the average gear head would know it has more than 300 hp just off the trap speed though.....
Lol, Actually they are... A excellent condition low milage GN goes for around 20K - 30K... GNX's go for around 50K-90K depending on milage condition ect, Look up some prices...
the gnz was low in hp even turboed but the torque was ungodly not to mention the mythical way it hooked up on track it was high 12s low 13 on average it was beating the vettes badly and they had the 5.7s and was trying to break on the super car scene of the era. both cars get my respect but even todays tech has hard time competeing with the gn or gnx. the gt 500 with 500 hp even falls short to the gnx with 270 or so hp on the quarer
The GNX ran mid-low 13s stock. It would be a driver's race. But, we're not talking about stock cars, or a GNX. Mine's a GN. Good luck finding a stock GN these days.
i dont think so man, if your going stock for stock it would be wicked close the gtos cant hook for shit and ive seen them run anyware from low 14s to mid 13s. it would no doubt have the higher trap speed for sure
i'm sorry you dont understand that a stock GTO makes a lot more power than a stock GNX with curb weights being relatively close. its a no brainer. before u get ill I personally love the GNX and dont care at all for the GTO' looks at all. stock against stock tho is like comparing a stock 93 LT1 Vet to a 93 ZR-1 Vet. anyway my Top fuel dragster owns everything on here so. kiddin , take a valium sheesh
This isnt a GNX, its a Grand National, and GTOs weight about 400-500 pounds more then a GN. GNs runs low 14s, high 13s, GNX does low 13s to 13 secs flat. And there was never a " 93 ZR-1 Vet ". GNs and GNXs are faster then they look and only has from 200 to 250 whp between the two. Thats relatively fast, GTOs arent even comparable to those cars. In my opinion, the modern GTOs was a waste of a car. They should bring back the GNs.
@imadrunkenfooL11 no it wouldn't the gnx is just a faster car... 20 years old and it still owns every muscle car made today. 0-60 time is 4.6 2010 ss camarro 0-60 time 4.8. that says alot
@Calbenmike 12.9 is what a stock '02 Trans Am will do with the LS1, the GTO's LS1 had a little more power but was slightly slower....the GTO's LS2 is 400hp stock, but I dont know what the 1/4 mile time is for one, but I could see it doing a 12.9
It was Street Legal night, so it was a random race. You line up with whoever you line up with, unless you pick the grudge lanes in which case you choose your opponent.
im a die hard GM fan but the gto's are slow even the LS2's most stock LS1 F-body cars run with them To bad we didnt get a camaro with a LS2 it would have been faster that the 03 cobra
They cut back the POWERBAND and tranny gear ratio to reduce emissions, therefore making the car too heavy for it's highly reduced LS motor.(Believe it or not GM used to make some pretty heavy cars!!
the ls2 gto would beat a ls1 camaro on the highway, trackwise the ls1 gto, camaro, and ls2 gto are all very close, but in a street race with both skilled drivers the ls2 would come out on top. The gto also has better handling with the fully independent rear suspension. But the suspension and body make the gto a lil heavier which is why the ls1 camaros are close to the same speed. and the 03 cobra barely beats a ls2 gto ive seen like 10 vids of those races on here and theyre usually pretty close.
all you did was agree with me, thanks. The weight of the ls2 gto keeps it fom being a good drag car but the higher HP makes it a little faster than the ls1 camaro on top end pulls. the ls1 gto is not as fast as a ls1 camaro in any rpm or speed range. The 03 cobra barly beats the ls1 camaro, a couple tenths diff in the 1/4 a mustang magazine tested the 03 cobra vs 02 ss the ss went 13.0 and the cobra went 12.8. the slow pass for the ss was 13.3 the slow pass for the cobra was 13.2
I don't know, and I don't have the timeslip anymore. I think he spun off the line, but I'm not sure. My 60' was one of my better - I'm thinking in the 1.6xx range.
It could be very slow for a couple reasons, one bad driver, and two high elevation. If the track is located on a high elevation, the track times would be slower then usual. Stock GTOs should be running close to low 13s and high 12s.
i brought the knife!!! lol kinda funny looking at stuff on youtube and come across your car... not to bad for my first time ever at the track.. and yes earlier that day she trapped a 105 or 106.. just exhaust and cold air
That was you? It took you a couple years to find it, but there it is. I knew your car ran faster at different times, but that's the one that Febus caught on film. There's some scary quick turbo GTOs at Island. I'm glad you weren't one of them :-p
no i guess you can't... GN's are legendary. i will hopefully own a GN soon after my car is done, and my goat and turbo buick will sleep together in the garage, peacefully. :D
They were popular, but that was 21 years ago. They sold all they could make in the last year (1987). They went through a period of time when people didn't understand them. Musclecar enthusiasts tried to like them but the V6 turned them off. They have a small but loyal fan base, though.
not many 20 yr olds know abot the power of that buick is what i was trying to say. my dad had one back in 88. he took it to go get a paint job and the painter went joy riding and crashed it. my dad still talks shit about that guy today.
interestingly enough i think it's turning out to be the same with the GTO. most people don't like them, didn't sell a whole lot, but like you said with another comment they target the same type of buyer really. both cars rock, imho GN > GTO but that's because guys with grand nationals have been doing it longer so their are plenty of fast ones around. give the GTO a few more years...
im allso opinion based tho cause for the last 4 years of my life the buick grand national has been pretty much my dream car but i bought my camaro for 500$... thats proably less then what ppl spent on their tires alone for the gtos if i put how much their cars are worth into my car it wouldnt even be a compatition
you're an idiot. that rebadged australian car has been kicking ass overseas for along time. that poor slob was someone with a stock GTO who obviously doesn't know how to drive his car. there are plenty of GTO's running 10's and 9's. wait a few years and you'll see them plenty faster.
haha! yea those GTO's r heavily modified, my Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT8 and my GN can obliterate any of those jellybean insults to the musclecarlovers of America... please!!!
any of them? riight. you have a sub 9 second srt8? i can see you smashing some stock goats, but that's about it. i think your stupidity is an insult to the muscle car lovers of america. and that's 3 words, not one. thanks for not graduating high school.
hey asshole! I'm talking about slightly modified or stock cars not some ridiculously over-modified cars that r'nt even street legal...so blow me asswipe the new GTO's need thousands of dollars in upgrades just to break into low 13's end of story...
man you are stupid. thousands of dollars in upgrades? my goat ran a 13.0 stock. with a set of longtubes and a good set of drag radials i ran a 12.7 in 80 degree weather. stock auto gto's can run high twelves. there are plenty of street legal gto's in 11's and some in 10's. get a life, you don't deserve a grand national and probably don't even own one, considering you know jack crap about cars.
God ur a moron, idiot, and I own an 87 GN with 18K on the clcok and an 06 SRT8 both of wich can mutilate any pathetic jellybean look-a-like gto, that car was the biggest mistake Lutz ever made by authorizing some rebadged Australian car to wear the GTO badge and it was a dismal failure, enough said...like I said blow me asswipe, I'll bee seeing ur dumbass gto disappearin' in my rearview mirror heheh
um excuse me sir i work at a drag strip i have yet to see a gto win a race and some of them a fairly well modded the one was gettin beat by a chevy 2500 (not to mention that truck was running low 11's)
hahaha sure whatever you say buddy. you must have some crappy goat drivers where you live. i usually win and am stock except for basic intake and exhaust crap. beat rustangs, a ford lightning, a terminator cobra, and a few other ricer cars that aren't worth mentioning. GTO's are decently quick they just suck launching. the only "mistake" gm made was the suspension and rear tires. get some decent drag radials and 9 inch rear wheels and they hook very well.
Don't forget to mention that the suspension components out of the higher end Monaro models from AUS can basically bolt right on for not much cash to solve the problem US Goats have with launching, and from what I've seen, the 4AT models don't have problems launching really, just some wheel hop with the 6MT.
my uncle just bought the new challenger and stock tht thing is running great and i love me some gm but they messed up big time on the new gto srry its not fast or does it look anything like a sports car its turning into demestic rice
the new challenger is a pig. 4100 pounds... sad people are just impressed by looks. gto slow huh? why are you people so incredibly ignorant? my GTO will spank a stock SRT challenger all day.
I know of a buick Owner that's running 22 lbs boost,and he admitted he lost alot of races and won alot.this will never end ,that's what I love about Muscle cars of today and the past.....Let's race..............
Tell your friend that the fun begins at 30 PSI. Let's face it, the Turbo Regals are now 20+ years old. Even the new Accord is quicker stock vs. stock. But no one cares about stock. The fun part is modifying them. There are GNs that look like they rolled off the showroom floor running low-14s and running 9s. You won't know which one you've line up against until it's too late.
At 30 psi for a street car I look for a grenade effect soon..modified cars vs stock,naturally aspirated vs forced induction will never end.Now in germany on the Autobahn I was a witness to a stock 911 turbo pull away from SC Z06 at 168 mph, Now that was too late................
gns and ttypes are geting expensive now. i mean for the money you can spend on ac lean GN you could put a down payment on new mustang or buy a ls1 car like a f-body or new camaro. lets just face it time isn't kind to these cars alot have been beaten to death and the rest are garrage queens.
my sentiments exactly boost4fun!the gnx is one of the things that make me despise the domesticvsimport crap, ever since i was a kid the image of a gnx to me MEANS muscle.it looked like muscle and out muscled the muscle and that 3.8 can handle INSANE amounts of boost stock much like the famous rb26 and 2jze
GN's were mid to high 13second cars a few minor upgrades and it'll beat almost any of 2days cars including the Vette, so much for having it's ass handed to it hehe and I"ve handed more then enough Evo's Stangs and GTO's whipping papers and that's with a turbo upgrade only!
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Grand Nationals were good 1/4 mile cars but,todays cars will hand them there ass on a platter,I've served many Gn owners Ass Whipping papers..Not afraid
You are a Dumb Ass Moron probably CEO of the company..GN/GNX was fast and still there times then are respectable today but,I personally handed many GN's walking papers.Todays cars are faster,better built.Buick GN/GNX can't brake or handle worth a Dam..I'm highly educated,and can and will teach you....Let's line'm Up....still not scared.......Never have never will.............
dude. single turbo buicks run in the 7's and 8's. and cars today are better built? no car today is better built and is structurally stronger than older cars in general *though the 80's was a terrible decade with aluminum engines and werent perfected yet* mustangs, vettes, evos, supras, camaros, S2000's still can get outrun by this old timer v-6
As an X owner of a stock 05 LS2 M6 GTO.Best I did was 12.97@109MPH which was faster than 95% of other Goats I ran both A4 and M6.Unfortunately I hung around with 5 GN nuts and I was usually slower by at least a second(10 car lengths). If I saw a 1.37 60' pop up by a GN, I was usually off the gas by the 330' mark. Why fuckin bother continuing was my modo LOL. GTO's, especially the manual are a bitch to get below 2.0-1.9 60'. Even with a DR a 1.89 was a perfect launch for me. Too much wheel hop
westy44cal 3 months ago
Grand National surfed on air for a couple of seconds lol
ZerolockXXX 6 months ago
Grand national is a beast
GeneralGHustler 6 months ago
Terrible start in the GTO
Mikelord8611 7 months ago
cool video, i bought my car from the dealer right at the end of that shitty ass road leading up to island dragway in great meadows.
i've been wanting to go up there since i got it almost a year ago but never really had the time..
dwnrety1 8 months ago
never was a fan of the newer gto
cornraker 10 months ago
GN looks just plain evil launching out of the smoke.
anx1300c 11 months ago
I have an 05 GTO and ive been wanting a GN for awhile now haha soon i hope i can have both
grandmayolli 1 year ago
How is the GN so damn fast ??? Speedy box wins again
WhatIThinke 1 year ago
I was going to buy an LS2 GTO. I spent the down payment money on a 1987 Grand National that wasn't running. I got help getting it going from the local Buick club. Smartest decision I ever made! This thing hauls so much ass and was getting me thumbs up from strangers before I even installed bumper fillers. I love turbo Buicks.
slaphappyjacko 1 year ago
/watch?v=QVbuu2qI7Kg
Enzofromwb 1 year ago
Danm Gto didnt stand a chance
jeffdaniel09 1 year ago
Driver Mod in the GTO. Drag Radials and you manage a fucking 13.8. Thats fucking pathetic. A slap in the face to all GTO owners! Stock I've seen 13.28 from the LS2
Ensilvanation 1 year ago
The Buick GN had only one purpose that it was built for, kill the Vette!
papachuck63 1 year ago
nice GN
adokenk3nnbasil 1 year ago
@adokenk3nnbasil - thanks. I sold it last year. I miss it sometimes...but other times I'm reminded of how hard it was doing things on only 6 cylinders.
boost4fun 1 year ago
@boost4fun ohh truu truu...
lot of work was put into dat car and stuff...
i would miss 2 but yee its done its job..
adokenk3nnbasil 1 year ago
@boost4fun Did you get something with a V8 instead?
pwnapoluzastudios 5 months ago
@pwnapoluzastudios Yes, I got an '02 Trans Am. Not to race, though. I haven't really been to the track since I sold the GN. The TA's rear and clutch are too fragile to effectively race it regularly. I may beef it up some day, but for now it's just a fun car to own.
boost4fun 5 months ago
@boost4fun Sounds good, I have a '94 Firebird Formula myself, they're fun cars to drive
pwnapoluzastudios 5 months ago
@pwnapoluzastudios My dad has a '99 SS and my brother has an '01 SS (after having sold his '02 WS6 TA). It's hard to resist the simplicity and power of a small block Chevy. I have an LT1 in my '94 Fleetwood limo. Was thinking about hot-rodding that just for shock value, but it's stock for now.
boost4fun 5 months ago
@boost4fun Yeah I agree completely man, my '94 has an LT1 as well, there's a lot of stuff I want to do to it as well.
pwnapoluzastudios 5 months ago
Grand Nationals are the KING of drag racing :)
UrbanTurbanz 1 year ago
man, I can not seem to keep from freaking out from watching this video!
demariojason 1 year ago
Yeah gto boy was shifting way to early
MrButterflyking 1 year ago
@MrButterflyking
So you think shifting later would have helped? I think not.
boost4fun 1 year ago 6
@boost4fun Are you kidding? You can hear and see it, im not saying he would have won but i am saying he could have ran better..
MrButterflyking 1 year ago
@boost4fun better time, yes. ftw? not a chance.
marcomariaz26 5 months ago
@marcomariaz26 a better time is for the win. Not sure what else really matters.
boost4fun 5 months ago
@boost4fun Doing your best?? Knowing you gave it your all and improved your performance over last time?? If you think 'the win' is everything, I truly feel sorry for you - you either don't deal with disappointment well, or are a delusional person who cannot admit their own short comings and possibly you need some mental health help...
marcomariaz26 5 months ago
@marcomariaz26 wow. You performed a complete psychoanalysis based on twisting a single sentence response to your nonsensical statement totally out of context. Brilliant. Again, in this video I won - this is the context in which you made your statement and to which I responded. Based on what you see in the video, how is that not "ftw"?
boost4fun 5 months ago
@MrButterflyking You know very little about racing. Who knows what gear he even has. There was no catcing that GN...
badlilstang 1 year ago
nice win Nelly!
vicious6 1 year ago
@buddiiee +5 psi isnt stock though xD
SP3CTRE90 1 year ago
makes me really want to restore my GN ('87 GN with 144k miles grandma gave to me after it was sitting for 10 years) now i need to do a whole shit load of work to it
jslatts89 1 year ago
you jerk! that wasn't fair! lol! nice video
ilnn408 1 year ago
the GTO sounded better lol... but that's about all.
ztwntyn8 1 year ago
the only car i'd own with a buick name tag on it. buick made one hella of a v6
SVTCO 1 year ago
@SVTCO What about the 1970-72 GS or GSX? Those stock were bad ass. With the Stage 1 package, well they were just unbeatable.
matthewt2010 1 year ago
@matthewt2010 yeah the "GSX was a torque factory =)
worldtravel101 1 year ago
the grand national gnx hits 0-60 in 4.7 sec. that's the exact same time as the 2010 camaro ss! and 0.2 sec faster than the mustang gt. imagine how beastly this car was in its prime... this car owned the 80's!
Veechie4short 1 year ago
what did the gto driver fall asleep
coltonwithano 1 year ago
thats a sick vid and sicker music. whats that song?
MeowSysTheCat 1 year ago
Thanks! That's "Freaking out" by Adema.
boost4fun 1 year ago
The GTO got raped by a v6... LOL.
pontiaclives 2 years ago
turbo v6 m8. and I almost want to say the gto had a bad start. almost.
Thanks boost4fun!
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DottryG 2 years ago
so much arguing,if one person says they have a gn then whos to say they dont? i have 2 trucks,is somebody gonna come on here and say i dont? stop with the bickering,you sound like a buncha prepubecent girls on here
alakazam2929 2 years ago
@alakazam2929 theres noway u have two trucks! lol but i will admit that when i bought mine from a man in north carolina it was 12000 i had to get 4000 from my granddad to pay for it and it needed alot of restoration work. And it was just a grand national not a gnx. but i see what your saying u guys argue too much
cbcrog 1 year ago
whatever the facts are on these two cars. the GN is beautiful
noloveinNEWJERSEY 2 years ago
GNX's had ladder bar that kept traction to the rear tires during hard acceleration. Cool feature on a badass fucking car.
ilshwak 2 years ago
I love the sound of the turbo and the look of the GNs
but that LS series engine sounds SICK along with the stick shift opion and the comfort and awesome driving of the GTO make it that much of a better car
bigman95impala 2 years ago
the gnx or just stock grand national is faster but its not horsepower that gets you down the track its torque. but props to the vehicle i own an 85 t-type in restoration
cmcclure89 2 years ago
A stock GNX would waste a stock gto. It has more torque, about same power, and a hell of a lot less weight. average quarter times were 13.3 @ 103ish back in '87 bone stock
1quickWS6 2 years ago
Stock GNX only has 270 hp buddy. GTOs have around 350-425 hp depending on which motor. GNX is fast even if it weighs almost 4gs, and only has 270 hp. It was the fastest production car in 1987 and was discontinued due to the fact that it was able to beat the vettes of the same year and the vettes were suppose to be the fastest sports car GM offered.
Pracerdohczx2 2 years ago
275hp, and that is underrated. test show more than that at the wheels. more like about 325 at the crank. 0-60 in 4.7, 1/4mi in high 12's, stock.
Knew someone who had an '87, with chip, exhaust, pulleys, intake, tune - ran 11.88.
gto's only have 400 max stock, but the car weighs 3800lbs...
marcomariaz26 2 years ago
yup.. i got a 87... chevy was bitchin that a buick was destroying g.m.'s flagship sports car "corvette" in 85,86,87... instead of bitching they should have done there homework..
cavscoutmp 2 years ago 8
@cavscoutmp GM did some homework, IE the Typhoon and Cyclone but yea the GN's smoked all and continue to impress even against the new class of muscle cars.
chowhound3 2 years ago
yeah just sucks that every time they come out with a car thats worth buying, they quit making it.. IE the typhoon,cyclone, grand national, camaro, firebird-transam, even though they bought it back "camaro"... there was a rumor they were gonna bring back the g.n. in 05-06-07, rumored it was gonna be a twin turbo v-6 w/ a est 400-450 h.p. id liked to have seen it..
cavscoutmp 2 years ago
THey where rated at 270 but if you look at a an old car and driver mag where they tested the GNX it actually put 300WHP. meaning the car has around 330 crank hp
judgementdey 2 years ago
@judgementdey auto mush box has close to 20% loss thru the drive train, which meant it was 350 to 360 hp at the fly wheel
jimbofisherman 2 years ago
In 87 it was the QUICKEST production car, not the FASTEST. And main reason it was discontenued was because the Regal went to a FWD platform and the diff wouldnt handle the power. The reason they didnt try to make it work was because it was outperforming the Vette
GMdrivingMOPARguy 2 years ago
really you've seen McClaren dyno sheets like i have? I know it was rated at 276hp. That was the most GM would allow Buick to rate the GNX because it was destroying the vette. I dont mean to insult you guys but i know a lot more about these cars than u do. most gnx's produced 300-310 to the wheels from ASC. even the average gear head would know it has more than 300 hp just off the trap speed though.....
1quickWS6 2 years ago
uh ok? I have a GNX myself.
Pracerdohczx2 2 years ago
Doubt you have a GNX... They are around 80K+
Breze84 2 years ago 3
ok and? Who said I bought the GNX? it was passed down to me from my dad.
Pracerdohczx2 2 years ago
ok...
Breze84 2 years ago
no they aren't ? lol you can find one for probably around 30
minidakota318 2 years ago
Lol, Actually they are... A excellent condition low milage GN goes for around 20K - 30K... GNX's go for around 50K-90K depending on milage condition ect, Look up some prices...
Breze84 2 years ago
80k+ where do you get your information at?????? you can get them way cheaper than that.
ibanez4482 1 year ago
What are you talking about, You can find them from 50 - 80K like I said before, It all depends on Milage ect.... Look around at the value of one...
Breze84 1 year ago
@Breze84 HATER
betito1288 11 months ago
@betito1288 Dont think im a hater bud, I own both a GTO and a 87 GN....
Breze84 11 months ago
im sure you do
DoubleMRecordsTV 2 years ago
you have no idea what you are talking about so please research your facts, then come back with a legit answer. :)
p8ntballr101 2 years ago
the gnz was low in hp even turboed but the torque was ungodly not to mention the mythical way it hooked up on track it was high 12s low 13 on average it was beating the vettes badly and they had the 5.7s and was trying to break on the super car scene of the era. both cars get my respect but even todays tech has hard time competeing with the gn or gnx. the gt 500 with 500 hp even falls short to the gnx with 270 or so hp on the quarer
gypman921 2 years ago
phew! crazy, i love it!
fabiolas4 2 years ago
a stock GTO vs a stock GNX would be a joke. love the GNX but it would get its ass handed to itself on a platter
imadrunkenfooL11 2 years ago
The GNX ran mid-low 13s stock. It would be a driver's race. But, we're not talking about stock cars, or a GNX. Mine's a GN. Good luck finding a stock GN these days.
boost4fun 2 years ago
my brother found one not to long ago. real 87 hard top. all stock. 50k miles. 5 grand. rescued from a bad owner =P
ZickBoost 2 years ago
@boost4fun I've got a stock GN with 20k miles on it.
spuy767 1 year ago
@boost4fun
thats not bad for a car built in the late 80s thou
heartboy86 1 year ago
fuck that your a dumb cunt...those turbo buicks smoke anything...trust me i own several!!
1999RMK 2 years ago
hahahaha don`t think so imadrunkenfool11 the GN would still OWN
1999RMK 2 years ago
i dont think so man, if your going stock for stock it would be wicked close the gtos cant hook for shit and ive seen them run anyware from low 14s to mid 13s. it would no doubt have the higher trap speed for sure
hooters1058 2 years ago
are u retarded a gnx is faster than a dumb shit gto
slipknot928 2 years ago
im sorry i would have to raise the RED BLUUSHIT Flag on that statment.
daltex81 2 years ago
i'm sorry you dont understand that a stock GTO makes a lot more power than a stock GNX with curb weights being relatively close. its a no brainer. before u get ill I personally love the GNX and dont care at all for the GTO' looks at all. stock against stock tho is like comparing a stock 93 LT1 Vet to a 93 ZR-1 Vet. anyway my Top fuel dragster owns everything on here so. kiddin , take a valium sheesh
imadrunkenfool 2 years ago
This isnt a GNX, its a Grand National, and GTOs weight about 400-500 pounds more then a GN. GNs runs low 14s, high 13s, GNX does low 13s to 13 secs flat. And there was never a " 93 ZR-1 Vet ". GNs and GNXs are faster then they look and only has from 200 to 250 whp between the two. Thats relatively fast, GTOs arent even comparable to those cars. In my opinion, the modern GTOs was a waste of a car. They should bring back the GNs.
Pracerdohczx2 2 years ago
@imadrunkenfooL11 no it wouldn't the gnx is just a faster car... 20 years old and it still owns every muscle car made today. 0-60 time is 4.6 2010 ss camarro 0-60 time 4.8. that says alot
Veechie4short 1 year ago
13.8 out of a GTO. Driver sucks. You can get a 12.99 out of that car no problem bone stock.
dustmundo 2 years ago
Which still would have put him a full second behind.
boost4fun 2 years ago
not what ive saw! 13.8 is more the norm!
westfabrications 2 years ago
@dustmundo 12.9? Keep dreaming.
Calbenmike 1 year ago
@Calbenmike 12.9 is what a stock '02 Trans Am will do with the LS1, the GTO's LS1 had a little more power but was slightly slower....the GTO's LS2 is 400hp stock, but I dont know what the 1/4 mile time is for one, but I could see it doing a 12.9
Heywoodjablowmeh 1 year ago
@dustmundo LOL since when?? My GTO is mid 13s with the 6 liter! I wish it would do high 12s.
LordSamuelJ 1 year ago
when i raced an ss camaro it wasnt close in my gto i walked away easy
gtodryvah 2 years ago
some people cant drive though
ziggy41197 2 years ago
Am I the only one that notices this Grand National isnt stock? Heavily modded Grand National vs a stock GTO, isnt a fair race.
Pracerdohczx2 2 years ago
run what you brung homie. it looked to me like a random race anyway, not a real car class. like test and tune
ziggy41197 2 years ago
It was Street Legal night, so it was a random race. You line up with whoever you line up with, unless you pick the grudge lanes in which case you choose your opponent.
Mikes87TurboT 2 years ago
Notice the GN's 11.84 mile time. EVOs get 12.5 to 13 mile time.
IfYouRFrightened 2 years ago
evos do not run that every evo and sti i have seen run 14.0 even modded they are slow and have the overratted jap hp!
hooters1058 2 years ago
Modded STIs run 14.0? Must've been a bad driver, cause even a economical SRT-4 does 14s and it doesnt even come close to a STI.
Pracerdohczx2 2 years ago
This video is just further proof that it's usually best to avoid screwing with anything on Draglites.
Khazule 2 years ago
agreed
bullitt774 2 years ago
im a die hard GM fan but the gto's are slow even the LS2's most stock LS1 F-body cars run with them To bad we didnt get a camaro with a LS2 it would have been faster that the 03 cobra
HKuspDADDY 2 years ago
They cut back the POWERBAND and tranny gear ratio to reduce emissions, therefore making the car too heavy for it's highly reduced LS motor.(Believe it or not GM used to make some pretty heavy cars!!
kpj200 2 years ago
the ls2 gto would beat a ls1 camaro on the highway, trackwise the ls1 gto, camaro, and ls2 gto are all very close, but in a street race with both skilled drivers the ls2 would come out on top. The gto also has better handling with the fully independent rear suspension. But the suspension and body make the gto a lil heavier which is why the ls1 camaros are close to the same speed. and the 03 cobra barely beats a ls2 gto ive seen like 10 vids of those races on here and theyre usually pretty close.
jons2000camaro 2 years ago
all you did was agree with me, thanks. The weight of the ls2 gto keeps it fom being a good drag car but the higher HP makes it a little faster than the ls1 camaro on top end pulls. the ls1 gto is not as fast as a ls1 camaro in any rpm or speed range. The 03 cobra barly beats the ls1 camaro, a couple tenths diff in the 1/4 a mustang magazine tested the 03 cobra vs 02 ss the ss went 13.0 and the cobra went 12.8. the slow pass for the ss was 13.3 the slow pass for the cobra was 13.2
HKuspDADDY 2 years ago
More proof that the new GTO was just an add campaign.
slbiggs36 2 years ago
what was the 60' time on the GTO? that launch looked really gnarly.
jlee72 2 years ago
I don't know, and I don't have the timeslip anymore. I think he spun off the line, but I'm not sure. My 60' was one of my better - I'm thinking in the 1.6xx range.
boost4fun 2 years ago
sounds like he just dumped the clutch so he bogged and hopped (cause the GTO has nasty wheel hop thanks to the IRS...)
nice GN run though. =)
jlee72 2 years ago
oh than it was very slow
gtodryvah 3 years ago
It could be very slow for a couple reasons, one bad driver, and two high elevation. If the track is located on a high elevation, the track times would be slower then usual. Stock GTOs should be running close to low 13s and high 12s.
Pracerdohczx2 2 years ago
ok? GTO still woulda got beat outta the hole. GN on sticky-icky tires vs. not so sticky-icky tires. GTO was asleep at the wheel... ZZZZZzzzzz
bullitt774 2 years ago
Huh? Im talking to HKuspDADDY.
Pracerdohczx2 2 years ago
oh i know... just throwing in my 2 cents. not trying 2 start a fight
bullitt774 2 years ago
THE GTO WAS STOCK IT RAN 13.1
gtodryvah 3 years ago
Not that run. It was a 13.8 @ 99.
boost4fun 3 years ago
Oh please! that wasn't a race that was a blitzkrieg!
BlacKnightRising 3 years ago
Was there even a question???
onixbeats 3 years ago
that GN showed the GTO what's what
Konformation07 3 years ago
That GM showed that other GM what was... what?
sfhawkeye 3 years ago
these are my two favorite american cars ever made
Greefus 3 years ago
The new GTO isn't American made...It's an Australian Holden Monaro.
earnhardtfanthree 2 years ago
might be made there but the ls1/ls2 are very american things
Greefus 2 years ago 2
It's an American Car.....still my badges says GTO same as the ole muscle ones..
orlnz 2 years ago
no it isn't....the only thing american on or in the new gto is the engine and transmission
earnhardtfanthree 2 years ago
actually the whole car is american it was made in australia but by the GM branch in australia therfore it is still american made. Nice try tho.
jons2000camaro 2 years ago
no...australian made aussie car...the holden is all aussie...imported by gm as a pontiac.....loaded with the stellar 350 small block.
earnhardtfanthree 2 years ago
it has a 364 ci small block 04 have 350s
gtodryvah 2 years ago
V8 pos got pwned by turbo power !!!!!!
TwiztedTurbo 3 years ago
That Goat got kicked in the nuts and slapped in the face
boss12 3 years ago
can you say ass raped!!!!!!!!!!
lakerhater4 3 years ago
GN's are awesome. I have a GTO, but would rather have a GN.
tdawgheelfan 3 years ago 2
The GN tree'd the goat hard...
1BadGN 3 years ago 2
owned!
jaminadams 3 years ago
i brought the knife!!! lol kinda funny looking at stuff on youtube and come across your car... not to bad for my first time ever at the track.. and yes earlier that day she trapped a 105 or 106.. just exhaust and cold air
jsaw89 3 years ago
That was you? It took you a couple years to find it, but there it is. I knew your car ran faster at different times, but that's the one that Febus caught on film. There's some scary quick turbo GTOs at Island. I'm glad you weren't one of them :-p
boost4fun 3 years ago
what wheels are on that GTO, I have TSW's and thats what they look like kinda.
tdawgheelfan 3 years ago
who brought the knife to the gun fight, not even fair.
slaterzzz 3 years ago 2
i got a 6.0 gto stock it is fast as fuck but you cat compare it to the gn thir just beast
eyelovehimxx 3 years ago
no i guess you can't... GN's are legendary. i will hopefully own a GN soon after my car is done, and my goat and turbo buick will sleep together in the garage, peacefully. :D
jpvulpes 3 years ago
DAMM LOOKS LIKE NO1 CAN BEAT THIS GN...
NOTORIOUSCARCLUB 3 years ago
the old gto's kick ass the new ones suck look too much like cavaliers and their not that fast stock
budman127 3 years ago
im still impressed with the GN's power damn its just a v6. turbo v6's today still cant compete with it. its a shame it wasnt a popular car.
jbreezy07 3 years ago
They were popular, but that was 21 years ago. They sold all they could make in the last year (1987). They went through a period of time when people didn't understand them. Musclecar enthusiasts tried to like them but the V6 turned them off. They have a small but loyal fan base, though.
boost4fun 3 years ago
not many 20 yr olds know abot the power of that buick is what i was trying to say. my dad had one back in 88. he took it to go get a paint job and the painter went joy riding and crashed it. my dad still talks shit about that guy today.
jbreezy07 3 years ago
interestingly enough i think it's turning out to be the same with the GTO. most people don't like them, didn't sell a whole lot, but like you said with another comment they target the same type of buyer really. both cars rock, imho GN > GTO but that's because guys with grand nationals have been doing it longer so their are plenty of fast ones around. give the GTO a few more years...
jpvulpes 3 years ago
im allso opinion based tho cause for the last 4 years of my life the buick grand national has been pretty much my dream car but i bought my camaro for 500$... thats proably less then what ppl spent on their tires alone for the gtos if i put how much their cars are worth into my car it wouldnt even be a compatition
86Camaro305 3 years ago
i spend about that for my camaro. selling it, too. because it's a camaro. have fun with your 17 second 305.
jpvulpes 3 years ago
oh please! that wasn't even a contest, GTO go home! it's nothing more than a rebadged Austrialian car, GM dropped the ball with that car big time!!
BlacKnightRising 3 years ago
you're an idiot. that rebadged australian car has been kicking ass overseas for along time. that poor slob was someone with a stock GTO who obviously doesn't know how to drive his car. there are plenty of GTO's running 10's and 9's. wait a few years and you'll see them plenty faster.
jpvulpes 3 years ago
haha! yea those GTO's r heavily modified, my Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT8 and my GN can obliterate any of those jellybean insults to the musclecarlovers of America... please!!!
BlacKnightRising 3 years ago
any of them? riight. you have a sub 9 second srt8? i can see you smashing some stock goats, but that's about it. i think your stupidity is an insult to the muscle car lovers of america. and that's 3 words, not one. thanks for not graduating high school.
jpvulpes 3 years ago
hey asshole! I'm talking about slightly modified or stock cars not some ridiculously over-modified cars that r'nt even street legal...so blow me asswipe the new GTO's need thousands of dollars in upgrades just to break into low 13's end of story...
BlacKnightRising 3 years ago
man you are stupid. thousands of dollars in upgrades? my goat ran a 13.0 stock. with a set of longtubes and a good set of drag radials i ran a 12.7 in 80 degree weather. stock auto gto's can run high twelves. there are plenty of street legal gto's in 11's and some in 10's. get a life, you don't deserve a grand national and probably don't even own one, considering you know jack crap about cars.
jpvulpes 3 years ago
God ur a moron, idiot, and I own an 87 GN with 18K on the clcok and an 06 SRT8 both of wich can mutilate any pathetic jellybean look-a-like gto, that car was the biggest mistake Lutz ever made by authorizing some rebadged Australian car to wear the GTO badge and it was a dismal failure, enough said...like I said blow me asswipe, I'll bee seeing ur dumbass gto disappearin' in my rearview mirror heheh
BlacKnightRising 3 years ago
um excuse me sir i work at a drag strip i have yet to see a gto win a race and some of them a fairly well modded the one was gettin beat by a chevy 2500 (not to mention that truck was running low 11's)
86Camaro305 3 years ago
hahaha sure whatever you say buddy. you must have some crappy goat drivers where you live. i usually win and am stock except for basic intake and exhaust crap. beat rustangs, a ford lightning, a terminator cobra, and a few other ricer cars that aren't worth mentioning. GTO's are decently quick they just suck launching. the only "mistake" gm made was the suspension and rear tires. get some decent drag radials and 9 inch rear wheels and they hook very well.
jpvulpes 3 years ago
Don't forget to mention that the suspension components out of the higher end Monaro models from AUS can basically bolt right on for not much cash to solve the problem US Goats have with launching, and from what I've seen, the 4AT models don't have problems launching really, just some wheel hop with the 6MT.
AzzMan2k6 3 years ago
my uncle just bought the new challenger and stock tht thing is running great and i love me some gm but they messed up big time on the new gto srry its not fast or does it look anything like a sports car its turning into demestic rice
th3godfatherofRS 3 years ago
the new challenger is a pig. 4100 pounds... sad people are just impressed by looks. gto slow huh? why are you people so incredibly ignorant? my GTO will spank a stock SRT challenger all day.
jpvulpes 3 years ago
I know of a buick Owner that's running 22 lbs boost,and he admitted he lost alot of races and won alot.this will never end ,that's what I love about Muscle cars of today and the past.....Let's race..............
orlnz 3 years ago
Tell your friend that the fun begins at 30 PSI. Let's face it, the Turbo Regals are now 20+ years old. Even the new Accord is quicker stock vs. stock. But no one cares about stock. The fun part is modifying them. There are GNs that look like they rolled off the showroom floor running low-14s and running 9s. You won't know which one you've line up against until it's too late.
boost4fun 3 years ago
At 30 psi for a street car I look for a grenade effect soon..modified cars vs stock,naturally aspirated vs forced induction will never end.Now in germany on the Autobahn I was a witness to a stock 911 turbo pull away from SC Z06 at 168 mph, Now that was too late................
orlnz 3 years ago
GTO didn't stand a chance. I want a Grand National/GNX!
lancerevo1994 3 years ago
Buick, if you want to improve your image and sell to the younger generation, BRING BACK THE GRAND NASH!
joness105639 3 years ago
gns and ttypes are geting expensive now. i mean for the money you can spend on ac lean GN you could put a down payment on new mustang or buy a ls1 car like a f-body or new camaro. lets just face it time isn't kind to these cars alot have been beaten to death and the rest are garrage queens.
Ilovegirlfights2 3 years ago
my sentiments exactly boost4fun!the gnx is one of the things that make me despise the domesticvsimport crap, ever since i was a kid the image of a gnx to me MEANS muscle.it looked like muscle and out muscled the muscle and that 3.8 can handle INSANE amounts of boost stock much like the famous rb26 and 2jze
rettalvr 3 years ago
yall r dumb asses come on that grand national would smoke any of ur matchbox cars
CDBCOOL 3 years ago
GN's were mid to high 13second cars a few minor upgrades and it'll beat almost any of 2days cars including the Vette, so much for having it's ass handed to it hehe and I"ve handed more then enough Evo's Stangs and GTO's whipping papers and that's with a turbo upgrade only!
BlacKnightRising 3 years ago
548 gnx were built they are sinister and to find a real gnx willing to run is even harder
jeffandmissymello 3 years ago
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Grand Nationals were good 1/4 mile cars but,todays cars will hand them there ass on a platter,I've served many Gn owners Ass Whipping papers..Not afraid
orlnz 3 years ago
you sir... are literally an uneducated moron. you need to know your car. the only thing the GNX lacks is handling compared to any car of any age.
LoganHankins 3 years ago
You are a Dumb Ass Moron probably CEO of the company..GN/GNX was fast and still there times then are respectable today but,I personally handed many GN's walking papers.Todays cars are faster,better built.Buick GN/GNX can't brake or handle worth a Dam..I'm highly educated,and can and will teach you....Let's line'm Up....still not scared.......Never have never will.............
orlnz 3 years ago
dude. single turbo buicks run in the 7's and 8's. and cars today are better built? no car today is better built and is structurally stronger than older cars in general *though the 80's was a terrible decade with aluminum engines and werent perfected yet* mustangs, vettes, evos, supras, camaros, S2000's still can get outrun by this old timer v-6
LoganHankins 3 years ago
island dragway baby!
GN's representing NJ
awesome
Tyxlaw66 3 years ago