I think we can't really answer this question because everyone counts being gay as something different... what about latent gays? virgins? people who have never been in a gay relationship but have feelings for the same sex? Do bisexuals and pansexuals fit in to this? If we mean the LBGT+ community do queer and trans people count to? people who are in the closet? It's all really confusing =P Personally I consider myself gender blind and I am attracted to all people regardless of gender..
I very definitely believe 10 percent is more accurate than your figure of 2%! There definitely are NOT 10% OUT gay people, however. Whether someone admits he or she is attracted to someone of his or her does not matter. They are still gay. I have been a gay person in this old world a LOT longer than you have (I could be your grandfather), and believe maybe 5% to 7% might be more accurate than your figure of 2%. Did you count the females? They seem to be able to hide it better than we males!
i have given my thought on how many there might have been. I don't think it's 10% orless. If anything, it's not so cut and dry.It's like a string, not like two culumns. So i think basically we're all moreor less Bisexual.
i dont think 10 percent of the population is gay, but if you include persons which would sometime of their life love (and i mean love) a person of the same sex the number does not seem ridiculous im my point of view
@vanchai1 >.< you have to think about how much people there are in the world and then how much gays there are in the world....i think that about 10% is right....maybe 4%-7% you have to remember how much people there are in the world. and you have to remember that in 3rd world countries and stuff alot of the time homosexuals are killed because of religion, if the entire world was as free as the united states the the homosexuals that are in the closet would come out and higher the numbers...
@smartandstupid37 ok you made no sense just like your sn. just b/c you live in a 3rd world country dont mean you can't be gay. just b/c you deny it to your friends and family dont make you straight. homosexual exist across all of the animal kingdom and it is not limited to just people. being gay is not a choice and there are more people who are gay or bisexual then you can believe, and when i said 60%, i meant 60%.
as long as the guy is the top, the guy doesn't consider himself gay
@vanchai1 by the theres no gays in the 3rd world country thing is, if there are and they come out they are usually killed....and i was not counting animals....and i DO know that its not a choice because im gay...and i didnt choose, but then you - the percent of people who claim to be gay so...im just saying i dont think its 60%...40% atleast from personal experience. oh and wtf is a sn...?
@smartandstupid37 omg you're are naive. gays exist everywhere. if the 10% theory was true then why are all the straight married men cheating on their wives with other men. from personal experience i have seen and witness this not just from one area, but multi areas i've lived in. i am not condoning cheating but it happens.
@vanchai1 Fuck GAYS They are disgusting pigs from hell-wish you will burn and die . You are the faggots of HELL Wish you DEATH AND DEATH FOREVER YOU FAGGOTS.
People get the 10 percent from Alfred Kinsey. Hower, he said 10 percent of MALES were exclusively gay in his survey. In his survey 5 percent of FEMALES were lesbians. I wish people would actually tell the truth and do their homework!
@Indigos8rboi but then that would even lower the %....because if you add the male population and the female population then the population of human beings would be higher, so then you take 10% and turn it into around 7% then add the 5% of woman and turn it into around 3% and it would still be around 10% of the population
It is true. There are 25 million persons of the LGBT community that identify themselves as " LGBT " ... That does not include the ones who are out of the closet. There is more than 10% of the US population that are gay because usually 40% of them are not out of the closet. So get your facts straight before you make a video telling people lies.
@LoveTheCity123 All of my videos are my opinions. I researched a number of studies and based on those and my personal experience, I related my opinion. I also always ask for my viewer's opinions at the end of my videos, because I'm open to new ideas. Last time I checked, opinions weren't counted as lies, but if you feel I'm a big ol' liar then that's okay.
As for facts, there are a number of studies that have vastly different results on this issue. Some agree with your numbers, others don't.
The most disgusting thing about marrige is that the government is a party to it. A marrige is between the two (or whatever) people involved and whatever third parties they choose (churches,family, or friends). Its disconserting that the government would be involved at all.
It might not be as high as 10% but definitely not as low as 2%. I think the true numbers might be somewhere around 6%. I mean I know one would not define a person's sexuality on who they have sex with, but in my opinion if a person is having sex with partners from both genders that would squarely put that person in the middle on the sliding scale of sexuality and hence somewhere more towards bisexuality...and lot of those people are quite firmly in closet for life...speaking from experience.
@heartzeal But there are people that choose to define themselves strictly on either end of the spectrum. It's their choice, whether you find it agreeable or not.
Yeah I would agree with you on that. 2% seems more accurate. Usually they find a small number of gay men and an even smaller number of lesbians. With Bisexuals, maybe a slightly higher percentage at three percent. However, thankfully the percentages are higher in certain states and big cities. So, if you want to see a lot of gay people, move to San Francisco, Boston, Los Angeles, Houston, Atlanta, Seattle, Chicago ,or new York. Gay people usually concentrate in those cities and a lot of others.
It is incredibly hard to get accurate statistics on this...
I grew up in a rural community of say, 500-1000 people, and out of those, I only know three non-straights (including myself).
I like to think that most people are capable of some sort of same-sex attraction and just keep that little tidbit to themselves - it makes me feel less lonely.
My theory is that the vast majority of people are capable of and experience attractions to both sexes. Then there is that small minority of people that are firmly and exclusively into one gender - either 100% straight or 100% gay. The 2-10% statistic reflects only these two minorities; it doesn't begin to cover the amount of people who have the potential to find happiness in same-sex relationships, if they only dared. Sadly, yet understandably, everyone with a "choice" chooses heterosexuality.
@ryanclovis Very true. Most of the bisexual friends I knew as a teenager ended up ignoring that side and marrying into a heterosexual relationships. I suppose I can understand why, but I hope none of them turned their back on someone they loved for convenience.
@ryanclovis Ryan, unless you are an expert in the social sciences, your own theories on sexual orientation are pretty useless. To draw a parallel, imagine if I (someone who does not play chess) went on to make my own theories on the interpretations of the rules of chess.. would these views be respected? Probably not. Current psychological science tells us that sexual orientation in men is very non-plastic (not changeable) and is almost always near an extreme end of the straight-gay continuum.
@sliders1127 I'd be very curious to know what "current psychological science" you're quoting there, as I can't seem to find any credible studies that support your claims.
@ryanclovis Not everyone who identifies outside the extremes "chooses heterosexuality"; plenty of bi/pan/queer people form lasting relationships with s/s partners. I've been with my partner for over 7 years now. It wasn't a choice. I didn't wake up and say, "Hey, I'll be gay today and maybe straight tomorrow." We fall in love with whom we fall in love, just like anyone else.
Unfortunately, in MY experience, people like me are pressured to identify as gay/straight, even if we're something else.
there is lots of gay people trust me, there are so many, in my experiences there is about 1 in 10. but unfortuantly alot of people are to scared to tell the truth, and who blames them.
I vote lez"love" (using the term with a very loose knot) is just into being unkind. I don't think we will ever get an accurate count for many of the reasons you mentioned, and until the majority stops with the "shame game". Ha, ha...love the gay marriage comment, half the people running out in the streets having gay sex and pride parades..." From what I hear, the gay "agenda" is all about recruitment. Perfectly straight folks accidently wander into "those bars" and come out gay! :-)
I'm sure it is ALOT higher than that, just most people are in the closet & are scared of ridicule.. I say that every LGBT person should come out & get active, that is the only way we can get anything done. I can honestly say that probably 70% of people where I live are at least bi maybe more than that, but there are only 4 out gay people =/
Hi JayBellBooks, very interesting video (all your videos are great!).
I think the whole '10% of people being gay' quote started with the Kinsey Report in the US? Is that wrong? 10% might be accurate as Kinsey and colleagues asked responders completely anonymously, so they had nothing to be afraid of when asked about their sexuality.
Also, about the Gay Jew thing, not sure if you watch CNN, but one of the hosts, Richard Quest (he's British) is both! He was asked to join Al-Jazeera but declined.
The Kinsey reports have been almost backed up with survey even to present day. Kinsey found that 10% of men had more than occasional attraction to their own sex, so sure the numbers change because of many reasons, most of which are political. I would not however rely on data from political exit poles. LOL. Of course Kinsey himself said that human sexuality is not a static orientation in most. Perhaps you are thinking of only 7's on the kinsey scale.
The ten percent number always seemed high to me. I'd say 5% gay, 2-3% out. Not sure about bi... But, like everyone else is saying, it's impossible to really know and it'll depend on when and where the surveys are done.
I have the feeling that the proportion of gay people to the population at large can vary widely from city to city. Also, the attitudes in some areas can greatly affect the willingness of some to be open about their sexuality. Here in Austin, which is known to be a very blue, liberal city in the middle of the rather red state of Texas, the gay population seems to be bigger and visible than in a lot of other places.
I have always liked the Kinsey formula (10/10/40/40). I think sexuality in humans, like in other primates or advanced mammals for that matter, is very fluid. And if it were not for social and religious "norms", I believe, this would be far more transparent.
I tried to add a link to an interesting article on sexual fluidity for you in a comment earlier, but it did not post. I guess Youtube does not allow that. Let me know if you're interested to read it.
I'd love the article about sexual fluidity. I guess sending the link by private message would be best.
Speaking of the pressure of social norms, one study really caught my eye. In 1970, 18% of boys aged 16-18 reported having a sexual experience with another male. That same survey in 1990 had only 2% willing to admit their homosexual encounters. The man responsible for the study felt this change was due to homosexuality being touted as a choice, something you can become, in more recent times.
It is abit like a guessing competition to guess how many of one colour beans are in a jar containing hundreds of beans of differt colours. My guess 3%.
You had me at the start of this vid but then you lost me when YOU started making up numbers out of thin air... The analogy of "the gay guy" in an office is very limited, what if you work in theatre of the fashion or any other creative industry where it's 90% gay? We are more than 10% since most people in surveys will not say they're gay. Love you vids!
I have no problem admitting that my perceived 2% is just an opinion and a guess. I'd love to be wrong, believe me. Great point about different professions having a higher percentage of gay people. I didn't consider that. Thanks for the comment! =)
Furthermore, Kinsey, who I'm assuming you have read, since he is where the 10% idea comes from; stated that 10% of the population is heterosexual, 10% is homosexual, and the other 80% is leaning to one side or the other (40/40). His suggestions question whether or not sexuality is concrete, or fluid - clearly he found it to be fluid. Other researchers have based genetic studies off of his study and most indicate that people are predispositioned to a sexuality due to genetic and societal factors.
Kinsey's study allowed people to rate their sexuality on a scale, which I like. I've always felt that sexuality is fluid and never truly one or the other. Regardless, I still find it difficult to believe that 10% of people are strictly homosexual. My methods aren't very scientific, but of all the people I've met, lived next to, worked with, come into contact with in any manner, only a tiny fraction were gay. Can you really say that every tenth person you meet is gay or even every twentieth?
In my high school around 20 -30 of a 400 person class was homosexual. More so if we count bisexual. So I would say, yes I believe on average 10% is a decent figure especially in the realms of sexuality where classifying ones sexuality is far more complicated than saying "gay" or "striaght".
Where did you go to high school, out of curiosity? It sounds nice. In my class of 2,000 I knew of about 5 guys, and even if there were ten times that number, it still wouldn't have been close. I would honestly like you to be right. I just haven't seen it in my personal experiences.
I can understand how you would underestimate the number of gay people you have seen. As far as the high school thing I said before, a lot of them didn't come out until we were out of high school. My self and a couple others were open about being gay but that was it. Then after about a year or so of being in college a number of them came out.
I would say my largest critisicism with what you are saying is that you assume that you know for certain that the people around you are not homosexual. This is largely impossible because of a number of reasons, but the most significant being societal constraints.
But don't get me wrong, I'm not saying 10% is a hard fact or anything, I just think sexuality is far to complex to say only 2% of the population is homosexual.
True. I could pass way more gay people on the street than I ever realize due to our incognito nature. That combined with the blurry lines of sexuality, as you've mentioned, make this difficult to measure. My 2% isn't hard fact either, not by far. It's just my own personal estimate based on what I've experienced in life.
Would you agree that less than 10% of the population identifies themselves as being exclusively gay and is open about their lifestyle to family and friends?
I would absolutely agree that less than 10% "identify" as homosexual; however I would emphasize "identify". I mean that's really my whole point. You can identify however you like, but society can force you into beliving you are straight.
However it wont change the genetics and from a genetic level 10% makes sense; to me at least, and from the research I've done
10% number is used to represent the fact that society suppresses a number of people from coming out of the closet. Anywhere near a 10% genetic variable is a normal frequency for genetic expression thus sexual orientation should display at this frequency, hence the reason we say 10% of the population is gay. Same as 10% of the population (male) is colorblind. It tends to be a frequency at which deeply in-bedded innate genetic factors express at quite often in a vast population.
I'm not sure I understand this, since less than 1% of the female population is color blind. It's true that there are fewer lesbians than gay men, but not at that ratio. Only about 7% of men are color blind, so even there we don't reach the fabled 10%.
That's why I said male lol. Colorblindness is linked to the Y Chromosome. There have been various studies on the frequency of expression, I qouted an average.
I believe that in the past it was measured as lower, but in all honesty I believe that there may be more of us in recent times 10%-15%, but human sexuality is much more complex then the black and white stereotypes which it is portrayed, it would be interesting to me if these surveys were expanded to include "maternal" sexuals and celibacy as well as Hetro and Homo sex
I think the gay population is higher than 2 or 3% but I don't know about 10%... I would say that's a possibility but it's a bit far-fetched. And that's weird about the Jewish aspect because I think I know as much jewish people as I do gay people... makes ya wonder...
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I think 2-3% sounds right, and that your numbers are on point. It just makes sense in my head, and that was a nice interesting insight you pointed out about Jewish people.
I agree with MrPinPinz, based off my experiences most gay guys (that I've met) are not really into monogamous relationships. :(
I have to say, most guys I've met, gay or straight, don't seem to be into monogamous relationships. But all my guy friends are still 18-ish, so maybe it comes with age :)
I think 2% sounds about right, although I have a query - are you including bisexuals in that number? Or is it just homosexuals?
Good question. I was only including homosexuals. Bisexuals would up the numbers, bringing it closer to 5% in my own crazy guestimations. Interestingly, the UK government did a study before legalizing civil unions in order to estimate the expense and found that about 6% of the population is gay, lesbian, or bisexual. I can believe those numbers, since I think bisexuality is much more common than homosexuality.
Oh yeah, if the 2% figure only includes homosexuals then I agree. I don't actually know any gays in my year at school, but it was a boarding school and sexuality was a touchy subject :S although weirdly I didn't know any Jewish people either. But I live the UK so I suppose the statistics might be different.
The Jewish population in the UK is around 1%. One of my previous boyfriends was Jewish and (obviously) gay. I didn't realize at the time how rare he was. I could have sold him on Ebay. =)
I always heard boarding schools in the UK had lots of older guys making the younger ones do sexual favors for them. Some sort of dominance thing. Or is that all fantasy?
Lol! :D And the scary part is, someone probably would have bought him!
Well it's a bit more complicated than that. That kind of thing used to happen in all-boys boarding schools, because the 'pretty' pre-pubescent boys were the closest they could get to girls. Nearly all of them were actually straight. They've pretty much all gone co-ed now though so it doesn't happen any more, as far as I know. Stephen Fry talks about it in his book 'Moab is my Washpot' since he went to Eton when it was all-boy
I really dont see how being promiscuous would be important with this percentage. Straight people can be just as promiscuous as gays, and who knows maybe even more so. You are always going to have those people where sex is what matters to them no matter their orientation. Believing just because you hear that gays only want sex and not a monogamous relation is and sorry if this is rude, somewhat ignorant.
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I think that what's more important is that among these 2% is that we need to know how many people are actually promicuous Vs how many people are in flavour of monogamous relationship.
Coz from what I'd heard is that most gay people are only interested in sex rather then relationship.. which is sad
That's completely untrue. I'm gay, I've only had one partner, and we've been together for three years now. Most of my friends are completely monogamous as well. But there are the few that aren't, just the same as my heterosexual friends.
One out of ten does seem a little high, and of course I wish it were that high as well. However, I do feel your low numbers are more accurate or rather realistic, out side of gay establishments. Thinking of that I can only remember meeting a handful of other gay people outside gay establishment over the last 30 years. Probably the reason I agree your numbers are realistic.
Ok, I don't usually leave comments, but there are a couple things.. You always make my day when a new video shows up - intelligent, well-spoken, and gay is, in my mind, much more difficult for the hater population to dismiss.....
Also, side note, I know you're taken, as am I, but wow, glasses make you even more cute than you already were.
Grew up in the midwest, but moved to suburbs of San Fran, so I've seen both extremes of 'gay visability'.... averaging the two, 2-3% is about accurate
But many people don't know that... When I walk down the street you can"t see that I'm pansexual unlike someone who is black or fat...
happyanne515 1 month ago
I think we can't really answer this question because everyone counts being gay as something different... what about latent gays? virgins? people who have never been in a gay relationship but have feelings for the same sex? Do bisexuals and pansexuals fit in to this? If we mean the LBGT+ community do queer and trans people count to? people who are in the closet? It's all really confusing =P Personally I consider myself gender blind and I am attracted to all people regardless of gender..
happyanne515 1 month ago
I very definitely believe 10 percent is more accurate than your figure of 2%! There definitely are NOT 10% OUT gay people, however. Whether someone admits he or she is attracted to someone of his or her does not matter. They are still gay. I have been a gay person in this old world a LOT longer than you have (I could be your grandfather), and believe maybe 5% to 7% might be more accurate than your figure of 2%. Did you count the females? They seem to be able to hide it better than we males!
MrMusiclover41 1 month ago
I'd agree around 2% are openly gay. But there will be loads more than that who have same sex attraction of some degree or another.
FengLong 2 months ago
Ye 2 percent is definitely accurate and Jewish people damm I live in jewville lol I know about 50+ out of 400 I'd say
Mogardie 4 months ago
i have given my thought on how many there might have been. I don't think it's 10% orless. If anything, it's not so cut and dry.It's like a string, not like two culumns. So i think basically we're all moreor less Bisexual.
timtheloner 4 months ago
im beginning to think that 9/10 people are gay
BananaSandwich1 7 months ago
i dont think 10 percent of the population is gay, but if you include persons which would sometime of their life love (and i mean love) a person of the same sex the number does not seem ridiculous im my point of view
NinguemTemEste 8 months ago
i actually came across this video by typing in ants vs gay lol
anyways...10% is a low number...it's more like 60% of guys are gay
vanchai1 1 year ago
@vanchai1 >.< you have to think about how much people there are in the world and then how much gays there are in the world....i think that about 10% is right....maybe 4%-7% you have to remember how much people there are in the world. and you have to remember that in 3rd world countries and stuff alot of the time homosexuals are killed because of religion, if the entire world was as free as the united states the the homosexuals that are in the closet would come out and higher the numbers...
smartandstupid37 1 year ago
@smartandstupid37 ok you made no sense just like your sn. just b/c you live in a 3rd world country dont mean you can't be gay. just b/c you deny it to your friends and family dont make you straight. homosexual exist across all of the animal kingdom and it is not limited to just people. being gay is not a choice and there are more people who are gay or bisexual then you can believe, and when i said 60%, i meant 60%.
as long as the guy is the top, the guy doesn't consider himself gay
vanchai1 1 year ago
@vanchai1 by the theres no gays in the 3rd world country thing is, if there are and they come out they are usually killed....and i was not counting animals....and i DO know that its not a choice because im gay...and i didnt choose, but then you - the percent of people who claim to be gay so...im just saying i dont think its 60%...40% atleast from personal experience. oh and wtf is a sn...?
smartandstupid37 1 year ago
@smartandstupid37 omg you're are naive. gays exist everywhere. if the 10% theory was true then why are all the straight married men cheating on their wives with other men. from personal experience i have seen and witness this not just from one area, but multi areas i've lived in. i am not condoning cheating but it happens.
sn stands for screen name
vanchai1 1 year ago
@vanchai1 sorry...i just dont see 60% of my school being gay -.-
smartandstupid37 1 year ago
@vanchai1 Fuck GAYS They are disgusting pigs from hell-wish you will burn and die . You are the faggots of HELL Wish you DEATH AND DEATH FOREVER YOU FAGGOTS.
Goldenroseful 7 months ago
People get the 10 percent from Alfred Kinsey. Hower, he said 10 percent of MALES were exclusively gay in his survey. In his survey 5 percent of FEMALES were lesbians. I wish people would actually tell the truth and do their homework!
Indigos8rboi 1 year ago
@Indigos8rboi but then that would even lower the %....because if you add the male population and the female population then the population of human beings would be higher, so then you take 10% and turn it into around 7% then add the 5% of woman and turn it into around 3% and it would still be around 10% of the population
smartandstupid37 1 year ago
It is true. There are 25 million persons of the LGBT community that identify themselves as " LGBT " ... That does not include the ones who are out of the closet. There is more than 10% of the US population that are gay because usually 40% of them are not out of the closet. So get your facts straight before you make a video telling people lies.
LoveTheCity123 1 year ago
@LoveTheCity123 All of my videos are my opinions. I researched a number of studies and based on those and my personal experience, I related my opinion. I also always ask for my viewer's opinions at the end of my videos, because I'm open to new ideas. Last time I checked, opinions weren't counted as lies, but if you feel I'm a big ol' liar then that's okay.
As for facts, there are a number of studies that have vastly different results on this issue. Some agree with your numbers, others don't.
JayBellBooks 1 year ago 2
gay and proud :)
MissMurderMichelle 1 year ago
@MissMurderMichelle faggot and retarded you are asshole!!!!!!!!
88nascarracer 1 year ago
@88nascarracer okay :)
MissMurderMichelle 1 year ago
@88nascarracer lol you said "faggot and retarded you are asshole" learn english kthanxbye p.s you have no right to call someone retarded.
smartandstupid37 1 year ago
10% boys r gay,,n 36% boys r bi and growin :) ....iam 19yrs boy n gay n proud :)
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88nascarracer 1 year ago
im jewish and gay haha
lovetooplaytennis 1 year ago
@lovetooplaytennis STUPID GAY JEW FAGGOT!!!!!
88nascarracer 1 year ago
How come I feel like making a fruit basket all of a sudden?!?! I feel dirty now...
nezzi69 1 year ago
The most disgusting thing about marrige is that the government is a party to it. A marrige is between the two (or whatever) people involved and whatever third parties they choose (churches,family, or friends). Its disconserting that the government would be involved at all.
lengthyounarther 1 year ago
It might not be as high as 10% but definitely not as low as 2%. I think the true numbers might be somewhere around 6%. I mean I know one would not define a person's sexuality on who they have sex with, but in my opinion if a person is having sex with partners from both genders that would squarely put that person in the middle on the sliding scale of sexuality and hence somewhere more towards bisexuality...and lot of those people are quite firmly in closet for life...speaking from experience.
heartzeal 1 year ago
First of all I think defining people on either end sexuality spectrum is stupid... and secondly I vehemently DISAGREE!
heartzeal 1 year ago
@heartzeal But there are people that choose to define themselves strictly on either end of the spectrum. It's their choice, whether you find it agreeable or not.
JayBellBooks 1 year ago 2
Yeah I would agree with you on that. 2% seems more accurate. Usually they find a small number of gay men and an even smaller number of lesbians. With Bisexuals, maybe a slightly higher percentage at three percent. However, thankfully the percentages are higher in certain states and big cities. So, if you want to see a lot of gay people, move to San Francisco, Boston, Los Angeles, Houston, Atlanta, Seattle, Chicago ,or new York. Gay people usually concentrate in those cities and a lot of others.
ralvarez15 1 year ago
It is incredibly hard to get accurate statistics on this...
I grew up in a rural community of say, 500-1000 people, and out of those, I only know three non-straights (including myself).
I like to think that most people are capable of some sort of same-sex attraction and just keep that little tidbit to themselves - it makes me feel less lonely.
mazajaria 1 year ago
My theory is that the vast majority of people are capable of and experience attractions to both sexes. Then there is that small minority of people that are firmly and exclusively into one gender - either 100% straight or 100% gay. The 2-10% statistic reflects only these two minorities; it doesn't begin to cover the amount of people who have the potential to find happiness in same-sex relationships, if they only dared. Sadly, yet understandably, everyone with a "choice" chooses heterosexuality.
ryanclovis 1 year ago
@ryanclovis Very true. Most of the bisexual friends I knew as a teenager ended up ignoring that side and marrying into a heterosexual relationships. I suppose I can understand why, but I hope none of them turned their back on someone they loved for convenience.
JayBellBooks 1 year ago 2
@ryanclovis Ryan, unless you are an expert in the social sciences, your own theories on sexual orientation are pretty useless. To draw a parallel, imagine if I (someone who does not play chess) went on to make my own theories on the interpretations of the rules of chess.. would these views be respected? Probably not. Current psychological science tells us that sexual orientation in men is very non-plastic (not changeable) and is almost always near an extreme end of the straight-gay continuum.
sliders1127 1 year ago
@sliders1127 I'd be very curious to know what "current psychological science" you're quoting there, as I can't seem to find any credible studies that support your claims.
territorygal 1 year ago
@ryanclovis Not everyone who identifies outside the extremes "chooses heterosexuality"; plenty of bi/pan/queer people form lasting relationships with s/s partners. I've been with my partner for over 7 years now. It wasn't a choice. I didn't wake up and say, "Hey, I'll be gay today and maybe straight tomorrow." We fall in love with whom we fall in love, just like anyone else.
Unfortunately, in MY experience, people like me are pressured to identify as gay/straight, even if we're something else.
territorygal 1 year ago
there is lots of gay people trust me, there are so many, in my experiences there is about 1 in 10. but unfortuantly alot of people are to scared to tell the truth, and who blames them.
yttihp11 1 year ago
I vote lez"love" (using the term with a very loose knot) is just into being unkind. I don't think we will ever get an accurate count for many of the reasons you mentioned, and until the majority stops with the "shame game". Ha, ha...love the gay marriage comment, half the people running out in the streets having gay sex and pride parades..." From what I hear, the gay "agenda" is all about recruitment. Perfectly straight folks accidently wander into "those bars" and come out gay! :-)
kirakakelady 2 years ago
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you're unintelligent.
lezlove21 2 years ago
Care to explain why you feel that way, or did you simply feel like being unkind?
JayBellBooks 2 years ago 2
What a load of shit.
100% of all people are bisexual.
That is the seed of human sexuality.
As a gay dork, you really failed.
You are welcome JayBellBooks
yageman 2 years ago
There's actually a lot to be said for that opinion, but it would help if you didn't have the articulation of an angry 12 year old.
JayBellBooks 2 years ago
im sorry, I was very very drunk.
I just didnt like your approach so I voiced my opinion. (too simple)
Its all good.
"Gay dork" was a stupid thing to say.
Way more than ten percent of people are gay.
Most are bisexual to some extent.
I just like to look at it my way.
If you are looking for guys that want to have all sorts of sex with you, then yes, 5% would probably be sort of accurate.
I was just commenting about the % of people who repress all sorts of natural human sexuality. anything goes
yageman 2 years ago
I'm sure it is ALOT higher than that, just most people are in the closet & are scared of ridicule.. I say that every LGBT person should come out & get active, that is the only way we can get anything done. I can honestly say that probably 70% of people where I live are at least bi maybe more than that, but there are only 4 out gay people =/
lilphatboi5 2 years ago
Hi JayBellBooks, very interesting video (all your videos are great!).
I think the whole '10% of people being gay' quote started with the Kinsey Report in the US? Is that wrong? 10% might be accurate as Kinsey and colleagues asked responders completely anonymously, so they had nothing to be afraid of when asked about their sexuality.
Also, about the Gay Jew thing, not sure if you watch CNN, but one of the hosts, Richard Quest (he's British) is both! He was asked to join Al-Jazeera but declined.
LondonNano 2 years ago
im technically a gay jew i don't follow the religion or any by that mean but how many gay jews do you think are out there i say 4 lol
blue2kid3 2 years ago
Nah, there's at least six. ;)
JayBellBooks 2 years ago
The Kinsey reports have been almost backed up with survey even to present day. Kinsey found that 10% of men had more than occasional attraction to their own sex, so sure the numbers change because of many reasons, most of which are political. I would not however rely on data from political exit poles. LOL. Of course Kinsey himself said that human sexuality is not a static orientation in most. Perhaps you are thinking of only 7's on the kinsey scale.
chopin65 2 years ago
talking about the workplace gay pop id say in ym job their is about 200 people and id say their as about 4 / 5% of us that are gay lol
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joehahira 2 years ago
I'd say it's more than 2%.
I'd guess it's about 5.
TheYolk 2 years ago
i love your glasses...very handsome lookin! You should wear them more!
matthewsteelman 2 years ago
It's nice to see another new video from you. :]
I would say that about 10% of the world's population is Homosexual but only about 4% or so are "out of the closet".
x3Days4MyValentinex 2 years ago
actually.. if tht is true, i met a lot of jews without knowing ;P i think i've met more gays than jews.. but the numbers do seem comparable
freakishneko 2 years ago
The ten percent number always seemed high to me. I'd say 5% gay, 2-3% out. Not sure about bi... But, like everyone else is saying, it's impossible to really know and it'll depend on when and where the surveys are done.
miamlarda 2 years ago
I have the feeling that the proportion of gay people to the population at large can vary widely from city to city. Also, the attitudes in some areas can greatly affect the willingness of some to be open about their sexuality. Here in Austin, which is known to be a very blue, liberal city in the middle of the rather red state of Texas, the gay population seems to be bigger and visible than in a lot of other places.
We've even had a lesbian sheriff!
TimCubUAkbar 2 years ago
Hmm 10% I think about 5% gay another 25% Bi & about 3% of us that are out. Great video.
depfox 2 years ago
I have always liked the Kinsey formula (10/10/40/40). I think sexuality in humans, like in other primates or advanced mammals for that matter, is very fluid. And if it were not for social and religious "norms", I believe, this would be far more transparent.
I tried to add a link to an interesting article on sexual fluidity for you in a comment earlier, but it did not post. I guess Youtube does not allow that. Let me know if you're interested to read it.
Hephaestion123 2 years ago
I'd love the article about sexual fluidity. I guess sending the link by private message would be best.
Speaking of the pressure of social norms, one study really caught my eye. In 1970, 18% of boys aged 16-18 reported having a sexual experience with another male. That same survey in 1990 had only 2% willing to admit their homosexual encounters. The man responsible for the study felt this change was due to homosexuality being touted as a choice, something you can become, in more recent times.
JayBellBooks 2 years ago
1 in my class of 100, and me :)
powersc69 2 years ago
It is abit like a guessing competition to guess how many of one colour beans are in a jar containing hundreds of beans of differt colours. My guess 3%.
dogday29 2 years ago
Jay, I think I like you better with your glasses! ;-)
Philip
terpprm 2 years ago
You had me at the start of this vid but then you lost me when YOU started making up numbers out of thin air... The analogy of "the gay guy" in an office is very limited, what if you work in theatre of the fashion or any other creative industry where it's 90% gay? We are more than 10% since most people in surveys will not say they're gay. Love you vids!
PaulLeary 2 years ago
I have no problem admitting that my perceived 2% is just an opinion and a guess. I'd love to be wrong, believe me. Great point about different professions having a higher percentage of gay people. I didn't consider that. Thanks for the comment! =)
JayBellBooks 2 years ago
According to my Human Sexuality class 1 out of 4 men have had a sexual experience with another male.
splitz2008 2 years ago
I Understand.. Sorry If i Hurt Anyone's Feelings =x
MrPiNPiNz 2 years ago
Furthermore, Kinsey, who I'm assuming you have read, since he is where the 10% idea comes from; stated that 10% of the population is heterosexual, 10% is homosexual, and the other 80% is leaning to one side or the other (40/40). His suggestions question whether or not sexuality is concrete, or fluid - clearly he found it to be fluid. Other researchers have based genetic studies off of his study and most indicate that people are predispositioned to a sexuality due to genetic and societal factors.
Vantado 2 years ago 4
Kinsey's study allowed people to rate their sexuality on a scale, which I like. I've always felt that sexuality is fluid and never truly one or the other. Regardless, I still find it difficult to believe that 10% of people are strictly homosexual. My methods aren't very scientific, but of all the people I've met, lived next to, worked with, come into contact with in any manner, only a tiny fraction were gay. Can you really say that every tenth person you meet is gay or even every twentieth?
JayBellBooks 2 years ago
In my high school around 20 -30 of a 400 person class was homosexual. More so if we count bisexual. So I would say, yes I believe on average 10% is a decent figure especially in the realms of sexuality where classifying ones sexuality is far more complicated than saying "gay" or "striaght".
Vantado 2 years ago
Where did you go to high school, out of curiosity? It sounds nice. In my class of 2,000 I knew of about 5 guys, and even if there were ten times that number, it still wouldn't have been close. I would honestly like you to be right. I just haven't seen it in my personal experiences.
JayBellBooks 2 years ago
I can understand how you would underestimate the number of gay people you have seen. As far as the high school thing I said before, a lot of them didn't come out until we were out of high school. My self and a couple others were open about being gay but that was it. Then after about a year or so of being in college a number of them came out.
Vantado 2 years ago
I would say my largest critisicism with what you are saying is that you assume that you know for certain that the people around you are not homosexual. This is largely impossible because of a number of reasons, but the most significant being societal constraints.
But don't get me wrong, I'm not saying 10% is a hard fact or anything, I just think sexuality is far to complex to say only 2% of the population is homosexual.
Vantado 2 years ago
True. I could pass way more gay people on the street than I ever realize due to our incognito nature. That combined with the blurry lines of sexuality, as you've mentioned, make this difficult to measure. My 2% isn't hard fact either, not by far. It's just my own personal estimate based on what I've experienced in life.
Would you agree that less than 10% of the population identifies themselves as being exclusively gay and is open about their lifestyle to family and friends?
JayBellBooks 2 years ago
I went to school in New York.
I would absolutely agree that less than 10% "identify" as homosexual; however I would emphasize "identify". I mean that's really my whole point. You can identify however you like, but society can force you into beliving you are straight.
However it wont change the genetics and from a genetic level 10% makes sense; to me at least, and from the research I've done
Vantado 2 years ago
10% number is used to represent the fact that society suppresses a number of people from coming out of the closet. Anywhere near a 10% genetic variable is a normal frequency for genetic expression thus sexual orientation should display at this frequency, hence the reason we say 10% of the population is gay. Same as 10% of the population (male) is colorblind. It tends to be a frequency at which deeply in-bedded innate genetic factors express at quite often in a vast population.
Vantado 2 years ago
I'm not sure I understand this, since less than 1% of the female population is color blind. It's true that there are fewer lesbians than gay men, but not at that ratio. Only about 7% of men are color blind, so even there we don't reach the fabled 10%.
JayBellBooks 2 years ago
That's why I said male lol. Colorblindness is linked to the Y Chromosome. There have been various studies on the frequency of expression, I qouted an average.
Vantado 2 years ago
between 0.5-6% sounds right
I think there are at least 20 gays and lesbians in a high school of 1000 students
I knew at least 3 gays in my graduation class of about 200 students, not to mention lesbians
there are a lot of bisexual people as well but they choose to be heterosexual
orehnid 2 years ago
I think it is higher, but it bugs me that it's so low.
ABookByAnyOtherName 2 years ago
I believe that in the past it was measured as lower, but in all honesty I believe that there may be more of us in recent times 10%-15%, but human sexuality is much more complex then the black and white stereotypes which it is portrayed, it would be interesting to me if these surveys were expanded to include "maternal" sexuals and celibacy as well as Hetro and Homo sex
JAMD456 2 years ago
Your eyes are so engaging, I'm charmed by them... ^^,
alonelychild 2 years ago
Great video! However, I think it is probably about 5-8%
cmcintosh33 2 years ago
I think the gay population is higher than 2 or 3% but I don't know about 10%... I would say that's a possibility but it's a bit far-fetched. And that's weird about the Jewish aspect because I think I know as much jewish people as I do gay people... makes ya wonder...
roobaloxicoocoo6 2 years ago
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I think 2-3% sounds right, and that your numbers are on point. It just makes sense in my head, and that was a nice interesting insight you pointed out about Jewish people.
I agree with MrPinPinz, based off my experiences most gay guys (that I've met) are not really into monogamous relationships. :(
-Vic
VictorReese 2 years ago
I have to say, most guys I've met, gay or straight, don't seem to be into monogamous relationships. But all my guy friends are still 18-ish, so maybe it comes with age :)
I think 2% sounds about right, although I have a query - are you including bisexuals in that number? Or is it just homosexuals?
SlashWorship 2 years ago
Good question. I was only including homosexuals. Bisexuals would up the numbers, bringing it closer to 5% in my own crazy guestimations. Interestingly, the UK government did a study before legalizing civil unions in order to estimate the expense and found that about 6% of the population is gay, lesbian, or bisexual. I can believe those numbers, since I think bisexuality is much more common than homosexuality.
JayBellBooks 2 years ago
Oh yeah, if the 2% figure only includes homosexuals then I agree. I don't actually know any gays in my year at school, but it was a boarding school and sexuality was a touchy subject :S although weirdly I didn't know any Jewish people either. But I live the UK so I suppose the statistics might be different.
SlashWorship 2 years ago
The Jewish population in the UK is around 1%. One of my previous boyfriends was Jewish and (obviously) gay. I didn't realize at the time how rare he was. I could have sold him on Ebay. =)
I always heard boarding schools in the UK had lots of older guys making the younger ones do sexual favors for them. Some sort of dominance thing. Or is that all fantasy?
JayBellBooks 2 years ago
Lol! :D And the scary part is, someone probably would have bought him!
Well it's a bit more complicated than that. That kind of thing used to happen in all-boys boarding schools, because the 'pretty' pre-pubescent boys were the closest they could get to girls. Nearly all of them were actually straight. They've pretty much all gone co-ed now though so it doesn't happen any more, as far as I know. Stephen Fry talks about it in his book 'Moab is my Washpot' since he went to Eton when it was all-boy
SlashWorship 2 years ago
I really dont see how being promiscuous would be important with this percentage. Straight people can be just as promiscuous as gays, and who knows maybe even more so. You are always going to have those people where sex is what matters to them no matter their orientation. Believing just because you hear that gays only want sex and not a monogamous relation is and sorry if this is rude, somewhat ignorant.
Dasplaty 2 years ago 7
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I think that what's more important is that among these 2% is that we need to know how many people are actually promicuous Vs how many people are in flavour of monogamous relationship.
Coz from what I'd heard is that most gay people are only interested in sex rather then relationship.. which is sad
MrPiNPiNz 2 years ago
That's completely untrue. I'm gay, I've only had one partner, and we've been together for three years now. Most of my friends are completely monogamous as well. But there are the few that aren't, just the same as my heterosexual friends.
Vantado 2 years ago
One out of ten does seem a little high, and of course I wish it were that high as well. However, I do feel your low numbers are more accurate or rather realistic, out side of gay establishments. Thinking of that I can only remember meeting a handful of other gay people outside gay establishment over the last 30 years. Probably the reason I agree your numbers are realistic.
Dasplaty 2 years ago
Ok, I don't usually leave comments, but there are a couple things.. You always make my day when a new video shows up - intelligent, well-spoken, and gay is, in my mind, much more difficult for the hater population to dismiss.....
Also, side note, I know you're taken, as am I, but wow, glasses make you even more cute than you already were.
Grew up in the midwest, but moved to suburbs of San Fran, so I've seen both extremes of 'gay visability'.... averaging the two, 2-3% is about accurate
keyser257 2 years ago
The average of all those polls is around 2% of the 100% population. Newest beliefs makes it approximately 2% gay. 98% straight.
jonvcan 2 years ago