I think there are some hurt feelings on this. it was a good game, who the hell cares? life goes on... and if ur talking about MSU's "great defence", why not talk about how they had to suspend multiple players for punching and otherwise unsportsmanlike conduct. i know no team is perfect, but really? only divisions thats got dirtier teams than MSU is the SEC.
@patriottomyself "why not talk about how they had to suspend multiple players for punching"
first off, one player gone rogue doesn't represent the entirety of the university.
second off, this has been looked over multiple times, i'm not justifying gholston's punch, but taylor lewan ALONE had 36 uncalled facemasks that game, including the play that antagonized the punch.
msu wasn't the only team to play "dirty" that game.
NCAA Basketball: avg. attendance during season: 5038. Avg. attendance for NCAA B Ball Championships: 20,178. Ho-hum. Who cares how many games or championships little schools like MSU win in minor sports? Avg. attendance for NCAA football games: Michigan (#1 for 13 straight years): over 111,000. MSU: (#19) 73,556.
Izzo's teams are good teams: but I think overall MSU has always been a temporary rival. 2011 was the last win Dantonio will have against Michigan football for a long time.
@xHaterofHatersx: Dream on - MSU has one of the best basketball programs in the country but when it comes to football: MSU has always been a team with once-in-40-years win streaks of 3 to 4 years. Time's just expired for Spartan football. MSU may have 1 of the top defenses but Michigan is building a top offense w/ 4-5 star players on their O line.
@xHaterofHatersx Those weren't the 4 and 5 star offensive lineman playing. They are RECRUITS which means they come this year. Sparty will be good at football for a few years, but Michigan will be GREAT. Enjoy your run while you can.
@xHaterofHatersx: Yur losing focus and talk nonsense. The reason MSU was able to pressure & sack Denard last game was because of inadequate offensive line play. Sparty's D is good but they aren't really THAT good against top offensive linemen.
Claim: MSU & Mich on "opposite levels" than previous. -- U think 4 wins puts MSU on a higher level?? : even though 3 of those wins were against the worst UofM teams EVER? Spartans will take back seat again for another few decades, always have.
@MSUSpartan483: Ever hear of reload and top coaching and recruiting? MSU is worth some respect but lets not get carried away by imagining MSU has the coaching, recruiting power and man power Michigan has. Not to mention disparities in stadium and indoor practice facilities. Sparty needs 36 straight wins to even catch up to the Wolverines. Lotsa luck with that one. ;-)
@xHaterofHatersx: CURRENTLY?? CURRENTLY?? Did Dantonio go 11-2 in his first year at MSU?? Hah!! The 2011 Wolverines were mostly juniors and led by a first year coach under a completely different system. Tell us, how do you manage to call that "sucking"??
@Dunkleosteus3691 "Sparty's D is good but they aren't really THAT good against top offensive linemen."
you see, here's where i find it hard to take you seriously in the slightest bit. how can you say that after msu pulled out to extremely close and evenly matched games against wisconsin, the biggest O-line in the NCAA? that's a complete contradiction, and you clearly don't know what you're talking about.
I do think that MSU's program is on a higher level than they have been in the past few decades, all the proof you need is on paper.
"3 of those wins were against the worst UofM teams EVER?"
This shows that UofM's football program is currently on a lower level than they have been in the previous decades, and supports my claim fully. You claim your program is "back" after beating a terrible team for a BCS win, but you're in for another reality check.
@xHaterofHatersx Think whatever you like. My point still stands: Michigan has had rare down periods and MSU has benefitted... temporarily. There's no way that MSU's football program can sustain success against Michigan's. I'm actually glad Sparty won the last 4 games vs the Wolverines: keeps things interesting and it's more fun when Lil' Sparty gets all full of himself, then gets knocked into the back seat again.
@Dunkleosteus3691 Think whatever YOU like. My point still stands: Michigan has never been in this situation before. They have never had to recover from their coach fucking up their program lower than it's ever been. They're hardly back to their original point, and their buy-in Sugar Bowl win against an overrated ACC team doesn't prove anything to me.
I also think that Michigan is gonna start the next season off on some sour notes opening against Bama. Good luck with that one.
@xHaterofHatersx: I see yor problem, you don't know much about what's going on here in Ann Arbor since Hoke became HC. And you don't know the actual history of Michigan football or you'd know they HAVE BEEN in this situation b4. Look up Bump Elliot's coaching record @ Mich. Elliot's poor record happened just when MSU was at its 1 and only national championship level. Everybody beat Michigan during those years - Sparty included. Bo came in '69 and instantly turned things around.
@xHaterofHatersx: Part 2: U have lots of opinions and few facts. Sour grapes over Michigan's bowl advantage is all u got. How soon will MSU be scheduling Bama or any other top team for their 1st game?? National audiences want to see top teams play - that's why MSU gets back-burner bowls and no national interest. Sometimes Good Sparty can't make it on the national stage. MSU: 31 games behind vs Michigan. U should be embarrassed. :-)
@Dunkleosteus3691 lmao dude... that's really all you have? you have histtory possibly repeating itself from the late 50's? you talk like msu isn't about to open up against 12-1 boise state next year, you say msu doesn't appeal to the national audience, while just a few months ago they were playing in the B1G championship, and a few months before that were being featured on college gameday. you bring up all time records when frankly, i don't give a shit about what happened then.
@xHaterofHatersx: those who do not know (or care about) history are damned to repeat it.
Repeater MSU will be in the back seat again... that's all there is to it. It's unavoidable, so learn to live with it. Dantonio is Jim Tressel's BFE, probably wears his Sparty skirt on dates with his hero, Jimmy. MSU and its fans have an inferiority complex: well earned as everyone else knows. ONE good year doesn't make a football legend.
@Dunkleosteus3691 interesting comment. i guess i'll just be the bigger man here. i've said my piece, and all you seem to want to do is repeat yourself and throw in as many irrelevant insults you can at Dantonio.
@xHaterofHatersx : I HAVE TO repeat some points because you keep ignoring them in favor of insults and need reminding. Just get that straight. Meanwhile, it's fine with me that you're backing into silence - it's your best mode of expression. :-)
@Dunkleosteus3691 i'm not ignoring your points, in fact i clearly acknowledge them in my comments in rebuttal. you claim that history will repeat itself, but the past 2 years don't support that at all. michigan wasn't even close with either of those games. msu even GAVE michigan half their offense's total yardage worth of penalties and michigan still couldn't make it past msu's D. the same D that's only losing 2 players to the draft. what makes you think UofDenard has a chance?
@xHaterofHatersx: Oh, sorry, I thought you had an actual strategy but instead it's just your problem with reading comprehension. Your "rebuttal comments" seldom connect to the points I'm making. In fact, you just proved my point by erroneously referring to "the last two years" when trying to refute the cyclic nature of the Michigan - MSU rivalry OR any other pairing of football opponents. Bottom Line: MSU cannot sustain a dominance in the rivalry: the disparity in resources is too great.
@xHaterofHatersx : Part 2 - your best mode of expression is still silence. No one's talking about the last two games - except grabbing at straws you. If you imagine Sparty will continue their success vs Michigan, you're in for disappointment. Easy pickins is over 4 MSU. We'll see that when Sparty comes to the Big House in a few months. UofDenard (good one!) will be cracklin' lightning on MSU's D. That is, IF their D can stay out of jail. Go with the rising star: become a Michigan fan.
@MSUSpartan483 : The follower phenomenon is an evolutionary trait which is vital only for the support and protection of nations today. We all have that instinct but applying one's devotion to second rate countries usually has a sad ending. Likewise: there's no real consequence in being a fan of lesser football teams because it's only entertainment.Pretending theres value in being a Spartan fan is futile.
@Dunkleosteus3691 Right, there's no value whatsoever in being a fan of a basketball program that has made 6 final fours over a span of 12 seasons, and won a national championship to boot, or of a football program that has posted back to back 11 win seasons. Moreover, if I really wanted to switch teams, why would I pick UofM to root for over, say Alabama for instance?
it's all evidence of an inferiority complex michigan created above msu that is slowly disappearing. but low and behold, michigan plays an easy 2011 schedule, and they jump 3 higher ranked teams to the sugar bowl because they can sell more tickets, only to narrowly come out with a win against VT.
@xHaterofHatersx Idk about "inferiority complex." It's just how fans are and have always been since the beginning of sports. When team A is historically better than team B, but team B has been better recently, fans of team A will point to the all-time record, while fans of team B will point to recent wins. This is what Michigan and MSU are experiencing in both football and men's basketball.
@xHaterofHatersx cont. Michigan is historically much better in football, but MSU has been better for a few years, so MSU fans are talking about how MSU is better now, while Michigan fans are talking about all-time records. It's the same in basketball. MSU has been better historically (I think Michigan still leads the all-time series), but Michigan has won a few in a row, and we want to talk trash, but MSU fans just point to MSU's dominance over the last 15 or so years. It's just how things work
@osustinks1 here's the problem though, i historically see
A > B
but what happens when A takes a turn for the worst while B is building an empire? the inferiority complex was created over the years, and i will admit that michigan has had the greater history, but as far as the past goes, it doesn't. it's over...
but in regards to basketball, i bring up the past only in relevant situations. i don't cling to it like a sore loser and shove it in other's faces in slight opposition.
@xHaterofHatersx I already explained what happens. Fans of team B brag about how good their team is, while fans of team A brag about the past. MSU is team A in basketball, while Michigan is team A in football. I've seen the exact same arguments take place over and over again in both sports, but with the team names reversed. It's just kinda funny. Neither Michigan basketball nor MSU football appears to be "building an empire," so I'm a little confused as to why you said that.
@osustinks1 msu football doesn't appear to be building an empire? idk what you've been paying attention to, but i've been noticing a better and better team every year...
@xHaterofHatersx Records since 2008, when MSU started beating Michigan every year: Michigan: 3-9, 5-7, 7-6, 11-2 with win in Sugar Bowl. MSU: 9-4, 6-7 (oops), 11-2, 11-3. Which team is getting "better and better every year?"
@osustinks1 fun fact, out of the 7 losses msu had in 2009, 5 of them were within a one possession game down to the last minute.
in conclusion, regardless of the record, msu had a great team that year, hence my statement that "msu is getting better and better every year" still stands.
@xHaterofHatersx Lol, a "great team." Let's take a closer look at that team. MSU scored 384 points that year and gave up 342. They played against 7 teams that went to a bowl game. They played against 5 teams that finished the season in the AP top 25, and lost to all of them (one of those teams was Central, who played absolutely no one). Better than their record indicates, but let's compare them to another team that I doubt you would consider good.
@xHaterofHatersx cont: The 2011 Michigan Wolverines: Scored 432 points, allowed 226. Played against 11 teams that went to bowl games and 3 teams that finished the year ranked in the AP top 25, beating 2 of them. Considering that you've been constantly calling this team overrated on youtube, I am sure you don't think they were a great team. So you obviously won't call MSU from 09 a great team.
@osustinks1 MSU from 09 actually played a tough schedule, while the 2011 michigan team played the easiest schedule in the B1G, pulled out the luckiest 11-2 record of the year (michigan was an overthrown td pass away from losing to osu in the last minute, and only beat notre dame because of one of the biggest chokes in college football history), and is now claiming to be "back" after barely winning the sugar bowl against an even more overrated team, VT.
@xHaterofHatersx MSU from 09 went 6-7 and didn't beat a single top 25 opponent, and you're claiming that they were "a great team." Michigan went 11-2, beat 2 top 25 opponents and won a BCS bowl, and you seem to think they were bad. Do you not realize the humor in this?
@xHaterofHatersx Since you asked, Michigan played 3 opponents that won bowl games (and beat 2 of them). Purdue and Western played each other, so one of them had to lose, and Michigan beat Virginia Tech. MSU from 09 played 5 opponents that won bowl games (one of whom was Texas Tech, who beat msu), and didn't beat any of them -- not even Central, who struggled to beat Troy in the GMAC Bowl. Michigan beat 9 of the 11 bowl teams it played. MSU beat 1 of 7 bowl teams it played in 09.
@xHaterofHatersx MSU's combined opponents' record in 09: 91-61, for a winning % of about 60. Michigan's combined opp record: 96-73, for a winning % of about 57. Pretty similar strength of schedule if you ask me. That doesn't seem to account for the massive difference in performance between the two teams.
@osustinks1 cute novel, no why does any of the shit you just threw in there matter? why are you comparing two completely different teams from two completely different years? the fact is, msu was one possession each game away from an 11 win season. in this situation, the record doesn't reflect the quality of the team (much like the 2011 wolverines, but i wont go there). now please, fit your point into one comment this time, i'm losing interest.
@xHaterofHatersx Hey, you're welcome to drop out of this discussion whenever you want. I'll make my comments as long as I want. To answer your question, you claimed that the 09 MSU team was a "great team." I have been refuting this claim. I'm comparing them to the most recent Michigan team because you don't think that team was good. However, that team was much better than the 09 MSU team, as I have shown. You are saying that MSU was very close to winning 11 games, as Michigan did this year...
@xHaterofHatersx cont. You also seem to think that Michigan is much worse than their record indicates. However, I pointed out the point differential of the 2 teams. MSU was at +42, while Michigan was at +206, and as I have pointed out, the two teams played very similar schedules (I didn't include Montana State in the opponents' record for MSU). This seems to suggest that Michigan was a lot better than the 09 MSU team. Therefore, it is ridiculous to suggest that MSU was a great team.
@osustinks1 what i said was that if the 2009 msu had a couple mnutes of their season back to retry, they had the potential to take back 5 of those losses, while the 2011 michigan team was 30 seconds of notre dame blown coverage and a last minute overthrown touchdown pass by braxton miller away from a 9-4 season.
the point differentials don't mean anything, that just means that msu put up a good fight against every team they played, including #6 iowa.
@xHaterofHatersx They would also have the potential to lose the overtime game against 5-7 Michigan and the 3-point win against 5-7 Purdue. Also, Michigan came close to beating Iowa this year, and given another opportunity they might beat Iowa. But they didn't beat Iowa. You can play this "what if" game with any team in any sport from any year. Yes, win/loss records can be misleading. That's why I'm looking at point differential and strength of schedule.
@xHaterofHatersx You say that "point differentials don't mean anything." You must realize that point differentials are how we determine the winners and losers of games, and to ignore point differentials would take all the fun out of sports for fans. I mean, why don't we just not keep score in a Michigan-MSU game? Point differential doesn't matter anyway.
@osustinks1 I understand how point-differentials are relevant, but much like records, they don't always reflect the quality of the team. All those point differentials mean is that msu went toe-to-toe with most of the teams they played, and given the SOS, that's a pretty decent accomplishment.
what i'm trying to get across is that the 2009 msu team had the potential to have a great season, but drew the short straw for a decent amount of their games.
@xHaterofHatersx They're much more reliable than records because it is an accumulation of stats over an entire season, while a game can turn on a few plays. You're dealing with a larger sample size with point differentials over a full season. That's the advantage. Again, looking at the strength of schedule, MSU's opponents had a slightly higher winning percentage, but that isn't including Montana State.
@xHaterofHatersx Montana State won 7 games in 09. I think it's safe say that a team that wins 7 games in 1AA is the equivalent of a 2 or 3-win 1A team. We'll say they would have gone 3-9 in 1A, which is a generous estimate. That brings MSU's opponents' winning percentage down to 57.3%, just about even with Michigan's opp win% from this year.
@osustinks1 they did play the easiest schedule in the B1G this year. they never played wisconsin, played 8 home games, played 2 ranked teams all year, played a joke of a team in the sugar bowl, and the only real team they played on the road was msu...
now in regards to the 2009 msu schedule, it was a rough year, but in my opinion was a tougher schedule, but look at what happened after that. my original point still stands. msu is progressively getting better and better by each year.
@xHaterofHatersx They also never played Indiana, the worst team in the Big 10. I'm not saying it was a tough schedule; it was easy. I'm just comparing it to MSU's schedule from 09 and pointing out that it's basically the same schedule. MSU's was very slightly more difficult, but that slight difference doesn't come close to accounting for 5 fewer wins and a difference of about 160 points in point differential.
@xHaterofHatersx They have improved since 08, sure, but the team that actually has been, without a doubt, getting better and better every year is Michigan, which, according to your logic, means that they are "building an empire," whatever the fuck that means.
It amuses me that you can use a word as strong as empire to describe a team that hasn't even been to a BCS bowl.
@osustinks1 i may have been a tad off when i used the phrase "building an empire" a while back, but i don't regret what i meant overall. with dantonio and narduzzi signing their new contracts, msu is indeed building a football powerhouse. it's really only a matter of time. i'll admit to the faulty word choice, but i wont say that my overall point is wrong.
however,
"They also never played Indiana"
doesn't change the fact that michigan played one real team the entire year... and lost.
I guess Nebraska, who blew out MSU, is not a "real team?" Virginia Tech? Notre Dame, who also blew out MSU? Iowa?
It was an easy schedule, but 11 of the teams they played went to bowl games, and they still won 11 games and had a huge positive point differential, indicating that they were a good team, all this in the first year under a new coach.
@osustinks1 Nebraska and Notre Dame proved to be extremely inconsistent last year, Michigan lucked the fuck out against ND, and Nebraska played their worst game of the year in Ann Arbor.
Virginia Tech? A real team? HA! They got blown out by Clemson twice, and Clemson was proven to be overrated as hell in their bowl game. VT was not a good team this year.
Iowa was good, but not great. They're the only team that UofM and MSU played on equal footing in Iowa, and only MSU could beat them
@xHaterofHatersx Well, Iowa, and also Minnesota and Northwestern, but comparing those scores wouldn't work in your favor, would it?
Regardless, I don't really care to argue which team was better this year right now, so I'll leave you with this: both teams appear to have bright futures. We'll see what happens. Until next time, sir...
@xHaterofHatersx its over? hahahhaha didnt state have a good run in football against UofM in 1950 to 1969, where they went 14-4-2???? look it up dude? thats 19 years owning the wolverines. but YOU STILL ARE DOWN 67-30-5! Have your little ... what is it? 4 year run? enjoy it while it lasts. history shows that BIG BLUE will be back. and all youll have is basketball.... a sport that the nation thinks baseball is better (awww so sad).
@dayday69 thanks for reminding me that msu's program used to suck while michigan's program used to be good. but now, michigan's program sucks, and is currently clinging to a gift of a bcs bid in which they barely beat a team almost as overrated as michigan, VT.
meanwhile, msu wins against one of the better teams in the toughest conference in the nation, georgia.
"all youll have is basketball.... a sport that the nation thinks baseball is better"
@xHaterofHatersx You are a typical state fool. Reverting to another sport unrelated to the one in the video. I know you and you fellow state idiots are upset, but don't worry. Your welfare checks should be coming soon so you have that to look forward to.
@WolverineDevotee you see what's funny is the fact that i was responding to another's comment where the subject of football was brought up and completely relevant, but i guess i shouldn't assume you would have the mental capacity to notice that over just flying off the handle over an assumption.
"3 in a row, soon to be 4."
michigan has proven this year that they can't play real teams on the road, and considering that they could barely beat msu WITH home-court advantage...
@WolverineDevotee I don't need to believe my team is great because I know they are... What other teams had a 15 game winning streak while playing 3 out of 4 ranked teams on the road? Michigan, meanwhile, has lost 3 of 4 road games, and 2 of which being against unranked teams...
And NEXT season? When MSU adds 3 4*'s and a 5* sniper Gary Harris to our experienced team?
We'll see then...
Just remember, MSU's program isn't famous for pulling out the wins in January or February...
@xHaterofHatersx Listen fool, state has not won one significant road game all season. Road games are not this conference's specialty this season if you have noticed. Michigan has now beat TWO Top-10 ranked teams, the second most in the conference behind ohio. Sorry I forgot about state's great run in the tournament last season....oh wait they got bounced by ucla, just one game in. And Michigan adds a 5 star, #2 player in the nation and two 4 stars to their experienced team.
@xHaterofHatersx Hey MORON, as of the 2011 NCAA Tournament the first round is now called the First Four and is played in Dayton. Look it up fool. Michigan played tennessee in the second round and lost to duke in the third. Therefore, you saying Michigan hasn't made it past the second round is WRONG.
Seriously, don't have you something better to do than troll a Michigan basketball video all day? Don't you have a job? Or are you sitting at home waiting for your welfare check to come like many other of your fellow state fans?
@xHaterofHatersx Sorry that you didn't reply in 2 seconds because your life revolves around sitting at home on youtube trolling? Okay. And putz, You said Michigan did not make it past the second round. I corrected you, you called me a moron. I showed you proof, thus, I made my point. Why don't you fools just worry about your team and stop obsessing over Michigan. Michigan won, again. You lost, again. GET OVER IT. The better team has proven themseleves on the court 3 straight.
and i never said michigan didn't make it to the second round, i said they never made it PAST the second round, implying that they couldn't win their second game in the tourney to make it to the sweet sixteen... you showed me no proof of anything and your point is non-existent...
@xHaterofHatersx That's not what I was talking about fool. I don't give a rats ass about your point. What matters is mine. Like I said, you want proof, look up the 2011 bracket.
@WolverineDevotee "run with your tail between your legs you welfare dependent buffoon."
thanks for the laugh. i didn't "deflect" anything, because there was nothing to deflect. you had no point in that comment, just mindless insults and a statment telling me to look at a bracket that i've already seen.
nice game against an unranked ARKANSAS btw, looks like big blue can't do shit on the road...
@xHaterofHatersx Don't know what you're talking about since Michigan beat purdue in mackey. Remember the last time Michigan played state on the road? Probably not since you were too busy in the fetal position crying.
@WolverineDevotee oh you don't know what I'm talking about when I say Michigan is inconsistent on the road?
Check their 2-4 road record then. (lol you lost to arkansas)
Or you could just wait until their next road game against OSU, I'm sure that should be a fun one to watch...
And I don't care about what happened last year. MSU had a talented team with no chemistry because of the fact that Izzo kicked two of our star players off of the team. What's done is done, see you in EL.
@xHaterofHatersx I've seen you on the notre dame michigan game highlights, and just a word, you need to get a life. You are pathetic man. I bet your going to be really happy when you see I'm responding to your trolling because all you want is some form of attention. So get a life, stop making stupid comments, and I'm going to close with this:
3 wins in a row in basketball against the spartains
11-2 football record and 7th best recruiting class in the nation.
@playerricky4 "you need to get a life. You are pathetic man."
i agree completely, the obviousness that i have no life is completely evident knowing that i spend 5 or so minutes every couple of hours or days to comment on youtube videos.
@xHaterofHatersx it's not the fact that you comment on youtube videos, it's the fact that you comment on michigan related videos that do not relate to michigan state videos, like the notre dame one, and make ignorant comments hating on u of m. when you spend the majority of your time on youtube talking trash about the wolverines, it says something about you.
"you spend the majority of your time on youtube talking trash about the wolverines"
"you spend the majority of your time on youtube"
"the majority of your time"
"majority"
5 minutes of my time once or twice a day is definitely the majority of my time. you got me :/
but in regards to the notre dame video, my bad for voicing my opinion regarding that the game was not at all an "instant classic" like everybody raved on about it.
No mention of MSU 10-pt win a couple of weeks later?
bballer199992 19 hours ago
I think there are some hurt feelings on this. it was a good game, who the hell cares? life goes on... and if ur talking about MSU's "great defence", why not talk about how they had to suspend multiple players for punching and otherwise unsportsmanlike conduct. i know no team is perfect, but really? only divisions thats got dirtier teams than MSU is the SEC.
patriottomyself 4 days ago
@patriottomyself "why not talk about how they had to suspend multiple players for punching"
first off, one player gone rogue doesn't represent the entirety of the university.
second off, this has been looked over multiple times, i'm not justifying gholston's punch, but taylor lewan ALONE had 36 uncalled facemasks that game, including the play that antagonized the punch.
msu wasn't the only team to play "dirty" that game.
xHaterofHatersx 3 days ago
anybody know who that was next to Denard the whole game wearing the sunglasses?
StormintheUK 1 month ago
@StormintheUK That is my fave - Roy Roundtree!!
TheDaytonDragon 4 weeks ago
NCAA Basketball: avg. attendance during season: 5038. Avg. attendance for NCAA B Ball Championships: 20,178. Ho-hum. Who cares how many games or championships little schools like MSU win in minor sports? Avg. attendance for NCAA football games: Michigan (#1 for 13 straight years): over 111,000. MSU: (#19) 73,556.
Dunkleosteus3691 1 month ago
This rivalry between these two schools is getting stale. Michigan is too good.
1233pc 1 month ago 6
@xHaterofHatersx cool story bro.
PGauding09 1 month ago
Get off our court Sparty!
GO BLUE!
Poole1Dan 1 month ago
Izzo's teams are good teams: but I think overall MSU has always been a temporary rival. 2011 was the last win Dantonio will have against Michigan football for a long time.
Dunkleosteus3691 1 month ago
@Dunkleosteus3691 lolololol as long as denard and gardner are your qb's, you won't come close to penetrating one of the best defenses in the country.
xHaterofHatersx 1 month ago
@xHaterofHatersx: Dream on - MSU has one of the best basketball programs in the country but when it comes to football: MSU has always been a team with once-in-40-years win streaks of 3 to 4 years. Time's just expired for Spartan football. MSU may have 1 of the top defenses but Michigan is building a top offense w/ 4-5 star players on their O line.
Dunkleosteus3691 1 month ago
@Dunkleosteus3691 MSU and Michigan football are both on completely opposite levels than in the previous decades, so your comparison is invalid.
"MSU may have 1 of the top defenses but Michigan is building a top offense w/ 4-5 star players on their O line."
oh yeah, because your O line did SO good in East Lansing last year. what was it, 8 sacks on denard? 20+ plays for loss of yardage?
xHaterofHatersx 1 month ago
@xHaterofHatersx Those weren't the 4 and 5 star offensive lineman playing. They are RECRUITS which means they come this year. Sparty will be good at football for a few years, but Michigan will be GREAT. Enjoy your run while you can.
blueregime 1 month ago
@blueregime *yawn* we'll see... I've been hearing that shit for years...
xHaterofHatersx 1 month ago
@xHaterofHatersx: Yur losing focus and talk nonsense. The reason MSU was able to pressure & sack Denard last game was because of inadequate offensive line play. Sparty's D is good but they aren't really THAT good against top offensive linemen.
Claim: MSU & Mich on "opposite levels" than previous. -- U think 4 wins puts MSU on a higher level?? : even though 3 of those wins were against the worst UofM teams EVER? Spartans will take back seat again for another few decades, always have.
Dunkleosteus3691 1 month ago
@Dunkleosteus3691 So MSU won this year because your offensive line sucked? If so, then why won't it suck next year?
MSUSpartan483 1 month ago
@MSUSpartan483: Ever hear of reload and top coaching and recruiting? MSU is worth some respect but lets not get carried away by imagining MSU has the coaching, recruiting power and man power Michigan has. Not to mention disparities in stadium and indoor practice facilities. Sparty needs 36 straight wins to even catch up to the Wolverines. Lotsa luck with that one. ;-)
Dunkleosteus3691 1 month ago
@Dunkleosteus3691 tell me this though, if michigan has all of mthose advantages against msu, why do they currently suck so badly in comparison?
xHaterofHatersx 1 month ago
@xHaterofHatersx: CURRENTLY?? CURRENTLY?? Did Dantonio go 11-2 in his first year at MSU?? Hah!! The 2011 Wolverines were mostly juniors and led by a first year coach under a completely different system. Tell us, how do you manage to call that "sucking"??
Dunkleosteus3691 1 month ago
@Dunkleosteus3691 I'll let you know when I care about the outcome of games that were played 30-40 years ago.
MSUSpartan483 1 month ago
@MSUSpartan483 : Don't bother because I don't care what you care about.
Dunkleosteus3691 1 month ago
@Dunkleosteus3691 "Sparty's D is good but they aren't really THAT good against top offensive linemen."
you see, here's where i find it hard to take you seriously in the slightest bit. how can you say that after msu pulled out to extremely close and evenly matched games against wisconsin, the biggest O-line in the NCAA? that's a complete contradiction, and you clearly don't know what you're talking about.
xHaterofHatersx 1 month ago
@Dunkleosteus3691 *continued*
I do think that MSU's program is on a higher level than they have been in the past few decades, all the proof you need is on paper.
"3 of those wins were against the worst UofM teams EVER?"
This shows that UofM's football program is currently on a lower level than they have been in the previous decades, and supports my claim fully. You claim your program is "back" after beating a terrible team for a BCS win, but you're in for another reality check.
xHaterofHatersx 1 month ago
@xHaterofHatersx Think whatever you like. My point still stands: Michigan has had rare down periods and MSU has benefitted... temporarily. There's no way that MSU's football program can sustain success against Michigan's. I'm actually glad Sparty won the last 4 games vs the Wolverines: keeps things interesting and it's more fun when Lil' Sparty gets all full of himself, then gets knocked into the back seat again.
Dunkleosteus3691 1 month ago
@Dunkleosteus3691 Think whatever YOU like. My point still stands: Michigan has never been in this situation before. They have never had to recover from their coach fucking up their program lower than it's ever been. They're hardly back to their original point, and their buy-in Sugar Bowl win against an overrated ACC team doesn't prove anything to me.
I also think that Michigan is gonna start the next season off on some sour notes opening against Bama. Good luck with that one.
xHaterofHatersx 1 month ago
@xHaterofHatersx: I see yor problem, you don't know much about what's going on here in Ann Arbor since Hoke became HC. And you don't know the actual history of Michigan football or you'd know they HAVE BEEN in this situation b4. Look up Bump Elliot's coaching record @ Mich. Elliot's poor record happened just when MSU was at its 1 and only national championship level. Everybody beat Michigan during those years - Sparty included. Bo came in '69 and instantly turned things around.
Dunkleosteus3691 1 month ago
@xHaterofHatersx: Part 2: U have lots of opinions and few facts. Sour grapes over Michigan's bowl advantage is all u got. How soon will MSU be scheduling Bama or any other top team for their 1st game?? National audiences want to see top teams play - that's why MSU gets back-burner bowls and no national interest. Sometimes Good Sparty can't make it on the national stage. MSU: 31 games behind vs Michigan. U should be embarrassed. :-)
Dunkleosteus3691 1 month ago
@Dunkleosteus3691 lmao dude... that's really all you have? you have histtory possibly repeating itself from the late 50's? you talk like msu isn't about to open up against 12-1 boise state next year, you say msu doesn't appeal to the national audience, while just a few months ago they were playing in the B1G championship, and a few months before that were being featured on college gameday. you bring up all time records when frankly, i don't give a shit about what happened then.
xHaterofHatersx 1 month ago
@xHaterofHatersx: those who do not know (or care about) history are damned to repeat it.
Repeater MSU will be in the back seat again... that's all there is to it. It's unavoidable, so learn to live with it. Dantonio is Jim Tressel's BFE, probably wears his Sparty skirt on dates with his hero, Jimmy. MSU and its fans have an inferiority complex: well earned as everyone else knows. ONE good year doesn't make a football legend.
Dunkleosteus3691 1 month ago
@Dunkleosteus3691 interesting comment. i guess i'll just be the bigger man here. i've said my piece, and all you seem to want to do is repeat yourself and throw in as many irrelevant insults you can at Dantonio.
i'm done with you, so have a nice day :)
xHaterofHatersx 1 month ago
@xHaterofHatersx : I HAVE TO repeat some points because you keep ignoring them in favor of insults and need reminding. Just get that straight. Meanwhile, it's fine with me that you're backing into silence - it's your best mode of expression. :-)
Dunkleosteus3691 1 month ago
@Dunkleosteus3691 i'm not ignoring your points, in fact i clearly acknowledge them in my comments in rebuttal. you claim that history will repeat itself, but the past 2 years don't support that at all. michigan wasn't even close with either of those games. msu even GAVE michigan half their offense's total yardage worth of penalties and michigan still couldn't make it past msu's D. the same D that's only losing 2 players to the draft. what makes you think UofDenard has a chance?
xHaterofHatersx 1 month ago
@xHaterofHatersx: Oh, sorry, I thought you had an actual strategy but instead it's just your problem with reading comprehension. Your "rebuttal comments" seldom connect to the points I'm making. In fact, you just proved my point by erroneously referring to "the last two years" when trying to refute the cyclic nature of the Michigan - MSU rivalry OR any other pairing of football opponents. Bottom Line: MSU cannot sustain a dominance in the rivalry: the disparity in resources is too great.
Dunkleosteus3691 1 month ago
@xHaterofHatersx : Part 2 - your best mode of expression is still silence. No one's talking about the last two games - except grabbing at straws you. If you imagine Sparty will continue their success vs Michigan, you're in for disappointment. Easy pickins is over 4 MSU. We'll see that when Sparty comes to the Big House in a few months. UofDenard (good one!) will be cracklin' lightning on MSU's D. That is, IF their D can stay out of jail. Go with the rising star: become a Michigan fan.
Dunkleosteus3691 1 month ago
@Dunkleosteus3691 Real fans don't switch teams dude.
MSUSpartan483 1 month ago
@MSUSpartan483 : The follower phenomenon is an evolutionary trait which is vital only for the support and protection of nations today. We all have that instinct but applying one's devotion to second rate countries usually has a sad ending. Likewise: there's no real consequence in being a fan of lesser football teams because it's only entertainment.Pretending theres value in being a Spartan fan is futile.
Dunkleosteus3691 1 month ago
@Dunkleosteus3691 Right, there's no value whatsoever in being a fan of a basketball program that has made 6 final fours over a span of 12 seasons, and won a national championship to boot, or of a football program that has posted back to back 11 win seasons. Moreover, if I really wanted to switch teams, why would I pick UofM to root for over, say Alabama for instance?
MSUSpartan483 1 month ago
@Dunkleosteus3691 cont.
all you idiots say the same things:
"we'll be back"
"wait till next year"
"shoelace! wooo!"
"lol all time records"
it's all evidence of an inferiority complex michigan created above msu that is slowly disappearing. but low and behold, michigan plays an easy 2011 schedule, and they jump 3 higher ranked teams to the sugar bowl because they can sell more tickets, only to narrowly come out with a win against VT.
michigan is far from their old perch.
xHaterofHatersx 1 month ago
@xHaterofHatersx Idk about "inferiority complex." It's just how fans are and have always been since the beginning of sports. When team A is historically better than team B, but team B has been better recently, fans of team A will point to the all-time record, while fans of team B will point to recent wins. This is what Michigan and MSU are experiencing in both football and men's basketball.
osustinks1 1 month ago
@xHaterofHatersx cont. Michigan is historically much better in football, but MSU has been better for a few years, so MSU fans are talking about how MSU is better now, while Michigan fans are talking about all-time records. It's the same in basketball. MSU has been better historically (I think Michigan still leads the all-time series), but Michigan has won a few in a row, and we want to talk trash, but MSU fans just point to MSU's dominance over the last 15 or so years. It's just how things work
osustinks1 1 month ago 5
@osustinks1 here's the problem though, i historically see
A > B
but what happens when A takes a turn for the worst while B is building an empire? the inferiority complex was created over the years, and i will admit that michigan has had the greater history, but as far as the past goes, it doesn't. it's over...
but in regards to basketball, i bring up the past only in relevant situations. i don't cling to it like a sore loser and shove it in other's faces in slight opposition.
xHaterofHatersx 1 month ago
@xHaterofHatersx I already explained what happens. Fans of team B brag about how good their team is, while fans of team A brag about the past. MSU is team A in basketball, while Michigan is team A in football. I've seen the exact same arguments take place over and over again in both sports, but with the team names reversed. It's just kinda funny. Neither Michigan basketball nor MSU football appears to be "building an empire," so I'm a little confused as to why you said that.
osustinks1 1 month ago
@osustinks1 msu football doesn't appear to be building an empire? idk what you've been paying attention to, but i've been noticing a better and better team every year...
xHaterofHatersx 1 month ago
@xHaterofHatersx Records since 2008, when MSU started beating Michigan every year: Michigan: 3-9, 5-7, 7-6, 11-2 with win in Sugar Bowl. MSU: 9-4, 6-7 (oops), 11-2, 11-3. Which team is getting "better and better every year?"
osustinks1 1 month ago
@osustinks1 fun fact, out of the 7 losses msu had in 2009, 5 of them were within a one possession game down to the last minute.
in conclusion, regardless of the record, msu had a great team that year, hence my statement that "msu is getting better and better every year" still stands.
xHaterofHatersx 1 month ago
@xHaterofHatersx Lol, a "great team." Let's take a closer look at that team. MSU scored 384 points that year and gave up 342. They played against 7 teams that went to a bowl game. They played against 5 teams that finished the season in the AP top 25, and lost to all of them (one of those teams was Central, who played absolutely no one). Better than their record indicates, but let's compare them to another team that I doubt you would consider good.
osustinks1 1 month ago
@xHaterofHatersx cont: The 2011 Michigan Wolverines: Scored 432 points, allowed 226. Played against 11 teams that went to bowl games and 3 teams that finished the year ranked in the AP top 25, beating 2 of them. Considering that you've been constantly calling this team overrated on youtube, I am sure you don't think they were a great team. So you obviously won't call MSU from 09 a great team.
osustinks1 1 month ago
@osustinks1 MSU from 09 actually played a tough schedule, while the 2011 michigan team played the easiest schedule in the B1G, pulled out the luckiest 11-2 record of the year (michigan was an overthrown td pass away from losing to osu in the last minute, and only beat notre dame because of one of the biggest chokes in college football history), and is now claiming to be "back" after barely winning the sugar bowl against an even more overrated team, VT.
do you see the difference?
xHaterofHatersx 1 month ago
@xHaterofHatersx MSU from 09 went 6-7 and didn't beat a single top 25 opponent, and you're claiming that they were "a great team." Michigan went 11-2, beat 2 top 25 opponents and won a BCS bowl, and you seem to think they were bad. Do you not realize the humor in this?
osustinks1 1 month ago
@osustinks1 also,
"Played against 11 teams that went to bowl games"
tell me, how many of those teams won their bowl game?
xHaterofHatersx 1 month ago
@xHaterofHatersx Since you asked, Michigan played 3 opponents that won bowl games (and beat 2 of them). Purdue and Western played each other, so one of them had to lose, and Michigan beat Virginia Tech. MSU from 09 played 5 opponents that won bowl games (one of whom was Texas Tech, who beat msu), and didn't beat any of them -- not even Central, who struggled to beat Troy in the GMAC Bowl. Michigan beat 9 of the 11 bowl teams it played. MSU beat 1 of 7 bowl teams it played in 09.
osustinks1 1 month ago
@xHaterofHatersx MSU's combined opponents' record in 09: 91-61, for a winning % of about 60. Michigan's combined opp record: 96-73, for a winning % of about 57. Pretty similar strength of schedule if you ask me. That doesn't seem to account for the massive difference in performance between the two teams.
osustinks1 1 month ago
@osustinks1 cute novel, no why does any of the shit you just threw in there matter? why are you comparing two completely different teams from two completely different years? the fact is, msu was one possession each game away from an 11 win season. in this situation, the record doesn't reflect the quality of the team (much like the 2011 wolverines, but i wont go there). now please, fit your point into one comment this time, i'm losing interest.
xHaterofHatersx 1 month ago
@xHaterofHatersx Hey, you're welcome to drop out of this discussion whenever you want. I'll make my comments as long as I want. To answer your question, you claimed that the 09 MSU team was a "great team." I have been refuting this claim. I'm comparing them to the most recent Michigan team because you don't think that team was good. However, that team was much better than the 09 MSU team, as I have shown. You are saying that MSU was very close to winning 11 games, as Michigan did this year...
osustinks1 1 month ago
@xHaterofHatersx cont. You also seem to think that Michigan is much worse than their record indicates. However, I pointed out the point differential of the 2 teams. MSU was at +42, while Michigan was at +206, and as I have pointed out, the two teams played very similar schedules (I didn't include Montana State in the opponents' record for MSU). This seems to suggest that Michigan was a lot better than the 09 MSU team. Therefore, it is ridiculous to suggest that MSU was a great team.
osustinks1 1 month ago
@osustinks1 what i said was that if the 2009 msu had a couple mnutes of their season back to retry, they had the potential to take back 5 of those losses, while the 2011 michigan team was 30 seconds of notre dame blown coverage and a last minute overthrown touchdown pass by braxton miller away from a 9-4 season.
the point differentials don't mean anything, that just means that msu put up a good fight against every team they played, including #6 iowa.
xHaterofHatersx 1 month ago
@xHaterofHatersx They would also have the potential to lose the overtime game against 5-7 Michigan and the 3-point win against 5-7 Purdue. Also, Michigan came close to beating Iowa this year, and given another opportunity they might beat Iowa. But they didn't beat Iowa. You can play this "what if" game with any team in any sport from any year. Yes, win/loss records can be misleading. That's why I'm looking at point differential and strength of schedule.
osustinks1 1 month ago
@xHaterofHatersx You say that "point differentials don't mean anything." You must realize that point differentials are how we determine the winners and losers of games, and to ignore point differentials would take all the fun out of sports for fans. I mean, why don't we just not keep score in a Michigan-MSU game? Point differential doesn't matter anyway.
osustinks1 1 month ago
@osustinks1 I understand how point-differentials are relevant, but much like records, they don't always reflect the quality of the team. All those point differentials mean is that msu went toe-to-toe with most of the teams they played, and given the SOS, that's a pretty decent accomplishment.
what i'm trying to get across is that the 2009 msu team had the potential to have a great season, but drew the short straw for a decent amount of their games.
xHaterofHatersx 1 month ago
@xHaterofHatersx They're much more reliable than records because it is an accumulation of stats over an entire season, while a game can turn on a few plays. You're dealing with a larger sample size with point differentials over a full season. That's the advantage. Again, looking at the strength of schedule, MSU's opponents had a slightly higher winning percentage, but that isn't including Montana State.
osustinks1 1 month ago
@xHaterofHatersx Montana State won 7 games in 09. I think it's safe say that a team that wins 7 games in 1AA is the equivalent of a 2 or 3-win 1A team. We'll say they would have gone 3-9 in 1A, which is a generous estimate. That brings MSU's opponents' winning percentage down to 57.3%, just about even with Michigan's opp win% from this year.
osustinks1 1 month ago
@xHaterofHatersx And let me remind you that you called Michigan's schedule this year "the easiest schedule in the B1G."
osustinks1 1 month ago
@osustinks1 they did play the easiest schedule in the B1G this year. they never played wisconsin, played 8 home games, played 2 ranked teams all year, played a joke of a team in the sugar bowl, and the only real team they played on the road was msu...
now in regards to the 2009 msu schedule, it was a rough year, but in my opinion was a tougher schedule, but look at what happened after that. my original point still stands. msu is progressively getting better and better by each year.
xHaterofHatersx 1 month ago
@xHaterofHatersx They also never played Indiana, the worst team in the Big 10. I'm not saying it was a tough schedule; it was easy. I'm just comparing it to MSU's schedule from 09 and pointing out that it's basically the same schedule. MSU's was very slightly more difficult, but that slight difference doesn't come close to accounting for 5 fewer wins and a difference of about 160 points in point differential.
osustinks1 1 month ago
@xHaterofHatersx They have improved since 08, sure, but the team that actually has been, without a doubt, getting better and better every year is Michigan, which, according to your logic, means that they are "building an empire," whatever the fuck that means.
It amuses me that you can use a word as strong as empire to describe a team that hasn't even been to a BCS bowl.
osustinks1 1 month ago
@osustinks1 i may have been a tad off when i used the phrase "building an empire" a while back, but i don't regret what i meant overall. with dantonio and narduzzi signing their new contracts, msu is indeed building a football powerhouse. it's really only a matter of time. i'll admit to the faulty word choice, but i wont say that my overall point is wrong.
however,
"They also never played Indiana"
doesn't change the fact that michigan played one real team the entire year... and lost.
xHaterofHatersx 1 month ago
@xHaterofHatersx Ok, we'll see if they can build a powerhouse.
I guess Nebraska, who blew out MSU, is not a "real team?" Virginia Tech? Notre Dame, who also blew out MSU? Iowa?
It was an easy schedule, but 11 of the teams they played went to bowl games, and they still won 11 games and had a huge positive point differential, indicating that they were a good team, all this in the first year under a new coach.
osustinks1 1 month ago
@osustinks1 Nebraska and Notre Dame proved to be extremely inconsistent last year, Michigan lucked the fuck out against ND, and Nebraska played their worst game of the year in Ann Arbor.
Virginia Tech? A real team? HA! They got blown out by Clemson twice, and Clemson was proven to be overrated as hell in their bowl game. VT was not a good team this year.
Iowa was good, but not great. They're the only team that UofM and MSU played on equal footing in Iowa, and only MSU could beat them
xHaterofHatersx 1 month ago
@xHaterofHatersx Well, Iowa, and also Minnesota and Northwestern, but comparing those scores wouldn't work in your favor, would it?
Regardless, I don't really care to argue which team was better this year right now, so I'll leave you with this: both teams appear to have bright futures. We'll see what happens. Until next time, sir...
osustinks1 1 month ago
@osustinks1 agreed, this conversation has gotten a tad stale. Have a good one, bud.
xHaterofHatersx 1 month ago
@xHaterofHatersx its over? hahahhaha didnt state have a good run in football against UofM in 1950 to 1969, where they went 14-4-2???? look it up dude? thats 19 years owning the wolverines. but YOU STILL ARE DOWN 67-30-5! Have your little ... what is it? 4 year run? enjoy it while it lasts. history shows that BIG BLUE will be back. and all youll have is basketball.... a sport that the nation thinks baseball is better (awww so sad).
dayday69 1 month ago
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@dayday69 thanks for reminding me that msu's program used to suck while michigan's program used to be good. but now, michigan's program sucks, and is currently clinging to a gift of a bcs bid in which they barely beat a team almost as overrated as michigan, VT.
meanwhile, msu wins against one of the better teams in the toughest conference in the nation, georgia.
"all youll have is basketball.... a sport that the nation thinks baseball is better"
doesn't make sense... lrn2grammar
xHaterofHatersx 1 month ago
@osustinks1 jesus, do you just find every Michigan video and talk shit on it? kinda sad.
dayday69 1 month ago
@dayday69 I'm going to assume you're talking to xHaterofHatersx, because I am most certainly not talking shit.
osustinks1 1 month ago
@osustinks1 yeah my bad man, i clicked the wrong link to reply haha. it was to Haters
dayday69 1 month ago
watch denard in the maize rage, he started jumping for joy before they took the final shot haha
mgoski23 1 month ago
@mgoski23 yeah, denard finally knows what it is like to win against msu!
xHaterofHatersx 1 month ago
@xHaterofHatersx You are a typical state fool. Reverting to another sport unrelated to the one in the video. I know you and you fellow state idiots are upset, but don't worry. Your welfare checks should be coming soon so you have that to look forward to.
Stop whining and suck it up you loser.
60-59, 70-63, 61-57. 3 in a row, soon to be 4.
WolverineDevotee 1 month ago
@WolverineDevotee You guys beat us by 1 point at your place. I don't see you beating us in East Lansing.
MSUSpartan483 1 month ago
@WolverineDevotee you see what's funny is the fact that i was responding to another's comment where the subject of football was brought up and completely relevant, but i guess i shouldn't assume you would have the mental capacity to notice that over just flying off the handle over an assumption.
"3 in a row, soon to be 4."
michigan has proven this year that they can't play real teams on the road, and considering that they could barely beat msu WITH home-court advantage...
xHaterofHatersx 1 month ago
@xHaterofHatersx Keep believing your team is so great and I'll keep watching the Michigan wins against them add up.
And then NEXT season? Holy shit. You better run for the hills right now, because White Thunder and Tre Robinson are coming.
WolverineDevotee 1 month ago
@WolverineDevotee I don't need to believe my team is great because I know they are... What other teams had a 15 game winning streak while playing 3 out of 4 ranked teams on the road? Michigan, meanwhile, has lost 3 of 4 road games, and 2 of which being against unranked teams...
And NEXT season? When MSU adds 3 4*'s and a 5* sniper Gary Harris to our experienced team?
We'll see then...
Just remember, MSU's program isn't famous for pulling out the wins in January or February...
xHaterofHatersx 1 month ago
@xHaterofHatersx Listen fool, state has not won one significant road game all season. Road games are not this conference's specialty this season if you have noticed. Michigan has now beat TWO Top-10 ranked teams, the second most in the conference behind ohio. Sorry I forgot about state's great run in the tournament last season....oh wait they got bounced by ucla, just one game in. And Michigan adds a 5 star, #2 player in the nation and two 4 stars to their experienced team.
WolverineDevotee 1 month ago
@WolverineDevotee Since you brought up road games, UofM has yet to win a single conference road game. MSU already has 2 road conference victories.
MSUSpartan483 1 month ago
@MSUSpartan483 Wonderful, you also lost the road game that you wanted to win the most. AGAIN.
WolverineDevotee 1 month ago
@WolverineDevotee OSU is the team I most want to beat on the road this year. Nice try though.
MSUSpartan483 1 month ago
@WolverineDevotee "state has not won one significant road game all season."
ummm, 3 top 25 teams on the road? who the hell has michigan beaten on the road?
last season was a fluke. we lost two players consecutively and the chemistry on our team disappeared, i never expected them to pass ucla.
now you tell me the last time michigan has made a sweet 16.
also, tell me who the hell is "experienced" on michigan's team? none of them have made it past the second round of the tourney.
xHaterofHatersx 1 month ago
@xHaterofHatersx Uh....last year Michigan beat tennessee in the second round and came up short in the third round against duke.
WolverineDevotee 1 month ago
@WolverineDevotee .................................you're a moron...
check a bracket and tell me again that michigan made it to the sweet sixteen...
xHaterofHatersx 1 month ago
@xHaterofHatersx Hey MORON, as of the 2011 NCAA Tournament the first round is now called the First Four and is played in Dayton. Look it up fool. Michigan played tennessee in the second round and lost to duke in the third. Therefore, you saying Michigan hasn't made it past the second round is WRONG.
WolverineDevotee 1 month ago
@WolverineDevotee show me some proof, because i can't seem to find any...
my point, however still stands.
michigan has yet to get past the second game in the tourney to move on to the sweet 16. while msu only 2 years back made it to the final four.
you tell me, who is more experienced?
xHaterofHatersx 1 month ago
@xHaterofHatersx Look up the 2011 NCAA Tournament bracket fool.
Seriously, don't have you something better to do than troll a Michigan basketball video all day? Don't you have a job? Or are you sitting at home waiting for your welfare check to come like many other of your fellow state fans?
WolverineDevotee 1 month ago
@WolverineDevotee sorry for my late response, i was studying all of last night and had to work all of this morning.
and according to the 2011 ncaa bracket, michigan played 2 games, and did not make the sweet sixteen. i'm still waiting for your point.
xHaterofHatersx 1 month ago
@xHaterofHatersx Sorry that you didn't reply in 2 seconds because your life revolves around sitting at home on youtube trolling? Okay. And putz, You said Michigan did not make it past the second round. I corrected you, you called me a moron. I showed you proof, thus, I made my point. Why don't you fools just worry about your team and stop obsessing over Michigan. Michigan won, again. You lost, again. GET OVER IT. The better team has proven themseleves on the court 3 straight.
WolverineDevotee 1 month ago
@WolverineDevotee lol whatever you say. you obviously know me...
and i never said michigan didn't make it to the second round, i said they never made it PAST the second round, implying that they couldn't win their second game in the tourney to make it to the sweet sixteen... you showed me no proof of anything and your point is non-existent...
xHaterofHatersx 1 month ago
@xHaterofHatersx That's not what I was talking about fool. I don't give a rats ass about your point. What matters is mine. Like I said, you want proof, look up the 2011 bracket.
Nice one and done last season.
WolverineDevotee 1 month ago
@WolverineDevotee lol you're an idiot. goodbye, sir. have a nice life.
xHaterofHatersx 1 month ago
@xHaterofHatersx Exactly. Deflect the comment and run with your tail between your legs you welfare dependent buffoon.
WolverineDevotee 1 month ago
@WolverineDevotee "run with your tail between your legs you welfare dependent buffoon."
thanks for the laugh. i didn't "deflect" anything, because there was nothing to deflect. you had no point in that comment, just mindless insults and a statment telling me to look at a bracket that i've already seen.
nice game against an unranked ARKANSAS btw, looks like big blue can't do shit on the road...
xHaterofHatersx 1 month ago
@xHaterofHatersx Are you talking crap to someone whose team beat yours 3 in a row? Smart.
WolverineDevotee 1 month ago
@WolverineDevotee i'm talking crap about the team that can't play on the road worth shit lol
i can't wait to see those clowns come to east lansing :)
xHaterofHatersx 1 month ago
@xHaterofHatersx Don't know what you're talking about since Michigan beat purdue in mackey. Remember the last time Michigan played state on the road? Probably not since you were too busy in the fetal position crying.
WolverineDevotee 1 month ago
@WolverineDevotee oh you don't know what I'm talking about when I say Michigan is inconsistent on the road?
Check their 2-4 road record then. (lol you lost to arkansas)
Or you could just wait until their next road game against OSU, I'm sure that should be a fun one to watch...
And I don't care about what happened last year. MSU had a talented team with no chemistry because of the fact that Izzo kicked two of our star players off of the team. What's done is done, see you in EL.
xHaterofHatersx 1 month ago
3 in a row bitches
mgoski23 1 month ago
Why MSU was ranked so much higher than Michigan is beyond me.
GoongalaGoongala 1 month ago
@GoongalaGoongala idk, records?
xHaterofHatersx 1 month ago
@xHaterofHatersx I've seen you on the notre dame michigan game highlights, and just a word, you need to get a life. You are pathetic man. I bet your going to be really happy when you see I'm responding to your trolling because all you want is some form of attention. So get a life, stop making stupid comments, and I'm going to close with this:
3 wins in a row in basketball against the spartains
11-2 football record and 7th best recruiting class in the nation.
playerricky4 3 weeks ago 2
@playerricky4 "you need to get a life. You are pathetic man."
i agree completely, the obviousness that i have no life is completely evident knowing that i spend 5 or so minutes every couple of hours or days to comment on youtube videos.
xHaterofHatersx 3 weeks ago
@xHaterofHatersx it's not the fact that you comment on youtube videos, it's the fact that you comment on michigan related videos that do not relate to michigan state videos, like the notre dame one, and make ignorant comments hating on u of m. when you spend the majority of your time on youtube talking trash about the wolverines, it says something about you.
playerricky4 3 weeks ago
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@playerricky4 there's that funny assumption again.
"you spend the majority of your time on youtube talking trash about the wolverines"
"you spend the majority of your time on youtube"
"the majority of your time"
"majority"
5 minutes of my time once or twice a day is definitely the majority of my time. you got me :/
but in regards to the notre dame video, my bad for voicing my opinion regarding that the game was not at all an "instant classic" like everybody raved on about it.
xHaterofHatersx 3 weeks ago
@playerricky4 i'm sending a second comment because i ran out of room on the last one:
"3 wins in a row in basketball against the spartains"
lol spelling
but if michigan can barely beat us at home, what makes you think that they will do anything tomorrow in east lansing?
"11-2 football record and 7th best recruiting class in the nation."
I have the best defense in the big ten with only 2 starters leaving for the draft. so yeah, keep bragging about your freshmen lolol...
xHaterofHatersx 3 weeks ago
@xHaterofHatersx the hypocrisy of your user name is palpable
jmcieslak0 1 week ago
@jmcieslak0 sticks and stones...
welcome to the internet.
xHaterofHatersx 1 week ago
Get the f*ck off their court!
plabute10 1 month ago
HAIL!
MrDunedon 1 month ago
Ha Ha Sparty! Turds............
coacht93 1 month ago
HAIL!!!!
edybaby98 1 month ago
HECK YES!
BenjaminIsMyName 1 month ago