Nice video. I do have one question though. I can't seem to find any videos about marking for a cut. By that I mean, when you mark a line to cut a piece of wood, have do you handle that line? Do you cut to leave the line? Do you cut to the left or the right? Do you cut down the middle? what if your blade is thicker or thinner than the line? What is your rule? Cheers
@MrDhandley Always cut to the outside of the line away from the piece of wood you need. The thickness of your blade will make your piece too small if you cut middle or wrong side.+++Bob
"Cut an inch" I also cut 10 inches making it easy to remember a measurement. If I cut 10 inches and my tape reads 17 1/2 inches I know that the measurement is 7 1/2 inches. Also, the inch monster almost never bites me when I do it this way because it's so obvious if my cut is 10 inches too long whereas 1 inch may not be noticeable.
Thanks for the excellent video. I did notice that you say the inch monster might cause you to cut your wood short. Wouldn't it be one inch too long if you took it literally and forgot to SUBTRACT the inch that you ADDED by starting with the one-inch mark? This is actually an extra plus, since a mistake will always give you another shot and you can slice off that last inch.
Start using lasers and all these tricks aren't needed. The laser measures from either the front or the back of the laser and it's more accurate than ant tape.
Also I can shoot a line a lot longer that the length of any existing take without it bending and twisting.
@CBSNEWS69 I do believe you will be using tapes for at least the balance of my lifetime. Now i could be wrong but I doubt it.+++Bob Now if we were talking about steering wheels on car I might be with you.
@CBSNEWS69 Sorry to join the discussion so late, but don't laser rangefinders actually use sonar? In that case they can be fouled by objects in the room. I was told the laser is only a target to aid us in aiming.
I burn 10 inches.. that way the last number remains the same.. 47-7/8" becomes 37-7/8".. the inch monster doesn't get you that way..
also Lee Valley sells a little "tape tip" for a few dollars.. at first you might think it's one of those useless gadgets but it is actually an awesome accessory especially for odd ball measurements and working alone..
aha i have a new tape measure purchased it recentlly.
as i am sure you know most people just but the end of the tape against the wall and then add on the distance of the tape body all tape bodys have a measure menton them that tells how much you have to add.
but back tomy new tape. on the under side the measurment for the tape body has already been deducted and you just need to but it up against the wall.
Two things-1 is that a good tape measure will tell you in inc's what to add for the body of the tape so you can get a size without bending the tape into the corner. If you get used to using the tool correctly you will get accurate measurements without marking up the walls.
2-in your line of work you should keep up with some special tape rules.
FASTCAP has some very good custom tapes that are very reasonable in price.
Best tape measure is a paper one! IKEA or Hornbach (Europe) provide them. One can bend them plus paper is extremely thin, making it perfect for exact measuring.
I place a short piece of blue masking tape on the wall before I make any pencil markings. That way I simply pull off the tape instead of trying to erase any markings or having to touch up the paint.
I just wanted to expand on the Butt Measurement trick. If you need to find the center of a wall that's over 25' long (standard tape) measure an equal distance from each corner and mark. Thn measure the distance between your marks to find your center
Once again, all great, simple, oh I should have thought of that, suggestions. For years I've been bending the rule into the corner and guessing. Never want to take the time to turn the brain on.
On using the folding ruler for the inside measurement, 28 1/2"? Looked like 28 1/4" to me, but I've not used that ruler. I'm going to use your trick of 2 butt measurements instead, seems easier. But I am going to inspect tape ends from now on.
It was 3 1/4 I cannot believe I missed that LOL! One of those instances where I was too busy filming what I was doing and not paying attention to WHAT I was doing!+++Bob
I always figured a laser tape was good for getting rough or approximate distances.Unless its calibrated to engineering standards.Would you actually use it to cut ,oh lets say,crown molding ?+++Bob
Good info Bob! A good quality laser tape is the bees knees! It can measure over distances that are difficult to reach or requires two people... It can also calculate the area, volume etc... It also can use Pythagoras for getting heights when obstacles are in the way of a direct drop. I must admit though, I found myself using the normal tape to check the laser at first. Once again, good info, i recon that you covered all bases for the handy man.
Thank you Bob for all your helpful information! I kept wondering why my measurements were always just a little off. Your explanation about the wiggle room on the tape measures just makes me go, "Doh"! I guess everyone is supposed to know this?
I love your posting thanks so much and keep up the great work. I bought a Rotozip per your drywall demos. I am finishing my basement and my outlets and around windows and doors cuts look great! Thank you
PS ever thought about a video on ceiling tongue and groove? I just purchased a BoWrench and intend to use that to get a nice fit but would love you take on a project like this.
I always take a second tape and check by measuring the orig. tape while its still locked down to make sure I'm getting a good read . Then continue on . The folding rule with the slide out is really the best methed . Johnny Strawser 28 year Union Carpenter thank you for the tips.
How about adding the 3 inches or what ever is stamped on the tape itself, it might be 31/2" when doing an inside Measurement, by Butting buth ends of the tape .
One can take, two pieces of say 1x2, to get a dimension. Just hold them together, slide to the length and make a mark on the 1x2. Then when cutting just hold the two pieces back to the mark previously made and make the mark of the length on the actual piece. You don't know the actual dimension in feet and inches but most of the time you don't really need it anyway.
It was 3 and a quarter inch! on the wood measurement.
Adriancoable 5 days ago
Nice video. I do have one question though. I can't seem to find any videos about marking for a cut. By that I mean, when you mark a line to cut a piece of wood, have do you handle that line? Do you cut to leave the line? Do you cut to the left or the right? Do you cut down the middle? what if your blade is thicker or thinner than the line? What is your rule? Cheers
MrDhandley 2 weeks ago
@MrDhandley Always cut to the outside of the line away from the piece of wood you need. The thickness of your blade will make your piece too small if you cut middle or wrong side.+++Bob
HomeRemodelWorkshop 2 weeks ago
um that wood ruler read 28 1/4 "
boone13619 2 months ago
"Cut an inch" I also cut 10 inches making it easy to remember a measurement. If I cut 10 inches and my tape reads 17 1/2 inches I know that the measurement is 7 1/2 inches. Also, the inch monster almost never bites me when I do it this way because it's so obvious if my cut is 10 inches too long whereas 1 inch may not be noticeable.
phk1853 5 months ago
Thanks for the excellent video. I did notice that you say the inch monster might cause you to cut your wood short. Wouldn't it be one inch too long if you took it literally and forgot to SUBTRACT the inch that you ADDED by starting with the one-inch mark? This is actually an extra plus, since a mistake will always give you another shot and you can slice off that last inch.
RoborantTube 6 months ago
Right now i am a greenhorn at all this so i am really grateful for ur videos.
dreambeliever62 7 months ago
Hey bob........is 28 1/4 not 28 1/2
omar0778 7 months ago
i use a 25' stanley fatmax with blade armor its a great tape measure
dclistheman 8 months ago
4:13 Thats what she said. ( sorry I had too)
YiuTeub 9 months ago
Start using lasers and all these tricks aren't needed. The laser measures from either the front or the back of the laser and it's more accurate than ant tape.
Also I can shoot a line a lot longer that the length of any existing take without it bending and twisting.
For me tapes are gone like buggy whips.
CBSNEWS69 1 year ago
@CBSNEWS69 I do believe you will be using tapes for at least the balance of my lifetime. Now i could be wrong but I doubt it.+++Bob Now if we were talking about steering wheels on car I might be with you.
HomeRemodelWorkshop 1 year ago
@CBSNEWS69 ...are you going to stop using pencils and paper as well because of computers??
VincentPriceRushJob 1 year ago
@CBSNEWS69 Sorry to join the discussion so late, but don't laser rangefinders actually use sonar? In that case they can be fouled by objects in the room. I was told the laser is only a target to aid us in aiming.
xizdaqrian 1 week ago
Hey bob at 5:49 is that metal bar reading 3 1/4 or 3 1/2?
domaniccat 1 year ago
it was really helpfulllllllllllll thanks man
ommarkumar2000 1 year ago
exellent!
TheFoodMan1516 1 year ago
the 10 inch demon...every carpenter has fallen to his power many times hahah i know i have 8-)
InShatteredMolds 1 year ago
I burn 10 inches.. that way the last number remains the same.. 47-7/8" becomes 37-7/8".. the inch monster doesn't get you that way..
also Lee Valley sells a little "tape tip" for a few dollars.. at first you might think it's one of those useless gadgets but it is actually an awesome accessory especially for odd ball measurements and working alone..
MrMeanderthal 1 year ago
these are great videos!
jjlwis 1 year ago
New title; How to make INACCURATE measurements with a folding ruler.
Check it @ 5:45 - Just do a simple voice over edit for that mistake.
bruno2260 1 year ago
EXCELLENT....!!!!
signupsigma 1 year ago
aha i have a new tape measure purchased it recentlly.
as i am sure you know most people just but the end of the tape against the wall and then add on the distance of the tape body all tape bodys have a measure menton them that tells how much you have to add.
but back tomy new tape. on the under side the measurment for the tape body has already been deducted and you just need to but it up against the wall.
bobski1976 1 year ago
I think your videos and advice are great. I just became a subscriber.
ed61151 1 year ago
Hi, nice video.
Two things-1 is that a good tape measure will tell you in inc's what to add for the body of the tape so you can get a size without bending the tape into the corner. If you get used to using the tool correctly you will get accurate measurements without marking up the walls.
2-in your line of work you should keep up with some special tape rules.
FASTCAP has some very good custom tapes that are very reasonable in price.
ron732489 1 year ago
GREAT JOB! BOB!
minnecana 1 year ago
mm if you don't have any ikea stuff now you know how to do it, quite simple but effective ; )
youutubestinks 2 years ago
Regarding the Burn an Inch method. What to do if your working solo? There is no one to hold tape down on the inch mark?
FotheLandscaping 2 years ago
Best tape measure is a paper one! IKEA or Hornbach (Europe) provide them. One can bend them plus paper is extremely thin, making it perfect for exact measuring.
Great channel
DavidMaas 2 years ago
+++I've built lots of cabinets and I've never actually seen a wood rule probably because I never looked for one.
arabrockerman 2 years ago
excellent tips. Thanks for sharing.
usaearthling 2 years ago
Dyslexic.. yeah, that gets me now. I was this way as a kid and thought I overcame it. But every now and then it rears its ugly head.
MRSketch09 2 years ago
I place a short piece of blue masking tape on the wall before I make any pencil markings. That way I simply pull off the tape instead of trying to erase any markings or having to touch up the paint.
BajaPete 2 years ago 7
lufkin make a multi read tape measure that measures including the case very accurate
bostonamstaff 2 years ago
I just wanted to expand on the Butt Measurement trick. If you need to find the center of a wall that's over 25' long (standard tape) measure an equal distance from each corner and mark. Thn measure the distance between your marks to find your center
kakedog 2 years ago
Been there done that. Thanks for the post+++Bob
HomeRemodelWorkshop 2 years ago
Thanks,I have never got as accurate a number as I want doing it that way but If it works for you continue doing it.+++Bob
HomeRemodelWorkshop 2 years ago
the inch monster has gotten me more than I want to admit
chucklestheclow59 2 years ago
I don't think that's an exclusive club!+++Bob
HomeRemodelWorkshop 2 years ago
I totally agree,viewer comments are a great way for me to learn also+++Bob
HomeRemodelWorkshop 2 years ago
Love your stuff. You can across so friendly and helpful. Good clear, simple explanations and demos. Easy for my hard-of-hearing ears to get.
Often some good ideas from commenters, too.
davidqxo 2 years ago
Once again, all great, simple, oh I should have thought of that, suggestions. For years I've been bending the rule into the corner and guessing. Never want to take the time to turn the brain on.
On using the folding ruler for the inside measurement, 28 1/2"? Looked like 28 1/4" to me, but I've not used that ruler. I'm going to use your trick of 2 butt measurements instead, seems easier. But I am going to inspect tape ends from now on.
WaterbugDesign 2 years ago
It was 3 1/4 I cannot believe I missed that LOL! One of those instances where I was too busy filming what I was doing and not paying attention to WHAT I was doing!+++Bob
HomeRemodelWorkshop 2 years ago
Too funny. I've done it soooo many times. I'd like to find a tape the had a red line for the 1/4 and 3/4. They're just too similar.
WaterbugDesign 2 years ago
bob withthe sliding wood ruler it was 3 1/4 inches you slid it out . Just being a dork. Thanks for the videos. Have an awesome weekend
aquapro1 2 years ago
It was 3 1/4 I obviously am the dork LOL+++Bob
HomeRemodelWorkshop 2 years ago
I always figured a laser tape was good for getting rough or approximate distances.Unless its calibrated to engineering standards.Would you actually use it to cut ,oh lets say,crown molding ?+++Bob
HomeRemodelWorkshop 2 years ago
Good info Bob! A good quality laser tape is the bees knees! It can measure over distances that are difficult to reach or requires two people... It can also calculate the area, volume etc... It also can use Pythagoras for getting heights when obstacles are in the way of a direct drop. I must admit though, I found myself using the normal tape to check the laser at first. Once again, good info, i recon that you covered all bases for the handy man.
243WW 2 years ago
Thank you Bob for all your helpful information! I kept wondering why my measurements were always just a little off. Your explanation about the wiggle room on the tape measures just makes me go, "Doh"! I guess everyone is supposed to know this?
5150hs 2 years ago
I love your posting thanks so much and keep up the great work. I bought a Rotozip per your drywall demos. I am finishing my basement and my outlets and around windows and doors cuts look great! Thank you
PS ever thought about a video on ceiling tongue and groove? I just purchased a BoWrench and intend to use that to get a nice fit but would love you take on a project like this.
staciepaul 2 years ago
I always take a second tape and check by measuring the orig. tape while its still locked down to make sure I'm getting a good read . Then continue on . The folding rule with the slide out is really the best methed . Johnny Strawser 28 year Union Carpenter thank you for the tips.
jstrawse 2 years ago
Thanks for your comment, 28 years is a long time congrats!+++Bob
HomeRemodelWorkshop 2 years ago
How about adding the 3 inches or what ever is stamped on the tape itself, it might be 31/2" when doing an inside Measurement, by Butting buth ends of the tape .
jstrawse 2 years ago
I personally have'nt had any luck doing that with measurements that need to be real accurate maybe its just my tape,or my math +++Bob
HomeRemodelWorkshop 2 years ago
Thanks Bob for the info!
R42464 2 years ago
Excellent info
StevenJamesJ 2 years ago
wow, i didn't know all that
CanadianToolGuy416 2 years ago
An alternative to measuring is (google) story sticks, works very well.
tanerofies 2 years ago
I watched the video and will remember this if I ever have to lay out a kitchen Thanks+++Bob
HomeRemodelWorkshop 2 years ago
One can take, two pieces of say 1x2, to get a dimension. Just hold them together, slide to the length and make a mark on the 1x2. Then when cutting just hold the two pieces back to the mark previously made and make the mark of the length on the actual piece. You don't know the actual dimension in feet and inches but most of the time you don't really need it anyway.
tanerofies 2 years ago
Simple but effective,always some type of scap on job to do this with! I will remember this if I forget my wood rule. Thanks+++Bob
HomeRemodelWorkshop 2 years ago
good
PennyDropper 2 years ago