A lot of my friends who play music usually say that Asians play their instruments very well, but without any sense of feeling or expression, I have to admit I sometimes surrender to that notion as well.
But this guy, even though he makes some obvious mistakes, really adds a lot of emotion to his playing. Fucking Bravo.
I started playing violin at age 6 and this was my first and continues to be my absolute favorite classical piece of all time...bravo mate, keep it up.
I know this is very hard to play, and this guy does it, same with pictures at an exhibition, but it will never sound as good as they sound in the piano, simply because they ARE for piano
its like paganini's capricce 24 played on the double bass, it will never sound as it sounds in the violin
OMG! not only the audiences, but you also enjoy your guitar playing and it seems that you are in "another world", and I bet that when you are playing guitar, you can't remember anything around you
I'm making tabs for this right now based on the sound. So far I only made it for 0:00 - 1:21. I might do a video of me doing a cover for those later on :)
i think this is a exelent cover of this piece by a guitarist... the guitar is harder to transpose to piano than visa versa.. so i think for a guitar cover its very good..
Listz is very difficult to play on the piano - it's much moire difficult to play on the guitar inf act I've never heard a guitar version of this rhapsody.
Great performance but this piece is really meant for a piano. There just aren't enough tones that a guitar can produce to fully experience this great music :)
More guitarists like Liantro should post their performances on You tube. Hats off to anybody who can do this stuff. The people who pick at performances like this are usually people who have tried to play guitar for many years but lack the talent. So they enjoy highlighting the imperfections in those who can do it.
It always cracks me up to see these long responses that are unrelated to the video.
But anyways, I have this transcription and its actually really good. Sadly he obviously did not practice it nearly enough. Its very sloppy and he is way too dramatic. Not a bad showman to the untrained eye I suppose.
@tikidung yes, go to scribd.com when you get ther type in "hungarian rhapsody for solo guitar" in their search section. You will have to be able to open it in PDF format. I have also found it thhrough basic search engines. The only stipulation is that you must type in -for solo guitar. Let me know if you have any issues. But let me tell you, this song is a beast to read.
this is such a remarcable rendition of this amazing piece on guitar!..requires extreme dexterity to be executed..though a bit rough, it sounds amazing..keep it up!
Permainan anda dalam Hungarian Rhapsodie No 2 Liszt itu hebat sekali, lagu ini permainan dalam piano saja sudah sangat sulit, apalagi anda memainkannya dalam gitar sampai begitu perfect, saya rasa bukan hanya pujian saja yang bisa saya utarakan,saya sangat tidak tahu bagaimana menyinggungnya, kalau dalam bahasa Mandarin istilahnya "出神入化(chu shenˊ ruˋ huaˋ)" kalau diterjemahkan dalam bahasa English "one's skill reaches the acme of perfection"
AWESOME!!! Maestro this is a wonderful rendering of Liszt's Rhapsody! Truly amazing! It's always been one of my absolute favourite pieces of music of all time. Thank you so much for playing it for us! God bless you!
5 stars ***** for the effort (Kazuhito Y. would get 10 stars!) and for entertainment value. It looks like you enjoyed this tremendously and sounds like the entire audience did too. I certainly enjoyed this. Thanks.
Yeah...Actually this piece needs at least 2 guitars...a marvelous, amazing performance gave the L.A.G.Q...this guitarist play this song too ...but it is completeless..it need more notes and more clear sound.....It is too difficult to play...It needs a lot of practice.....( I'm sorry for my english)..
mate you should never have performed this....not that i could have attempted it however i know when someone isnt up to the challange and lets be honest..it doesnt take a genius to see that...though it take a technical genius to pull this off. fisk is over rated anyway he does the same same to paaninis caprice 24 as you do with this piece: ruins it.
agreed he is an awesome guitar player but its so hard to pull this off by yourself on a guitar. I would also like to someone who got even close besides me lol just kidding
03:40. Oniric, awesome, formidable!!! What a technique!!!! I think if Tjahjoputro keep improving in his skills, the legacy of Kazuhito Yamashita will not be lost.
la mejor interpretación en guitarra que he visto en toda mi vida (sin exagerar)ya de por sí es una pieza perfecta y en guitarra lo es aun mas; mis felicitaciones por ser tan chingón!!!!!!!!!!!!
He is a great guitarist, but is really over emoting here and seems like he is in love with his playing otherwise a great performance of a very difficult piece.
wah banyak punya fans pemula ya, pak! tapi intepretasi memang tidak bisa menipu, dari sudut mata pemusik mungkin bapak harus banyak mendengarkan & mempelajari karya aslinya dulu sebelum performance ini di publikasikan keseluruh seantero dunia. menurut saya interpretasi karya ini gagal total dan saya melihat repertoire anda hanya mencari pengakuan atau jati diri saja bahwa anda sanggup memainkan karya susah & bukan mencoba mengintepretasikan suatu karya dengan benar, sekali lagi sayang ....
O saya sudah terbiasa dikritik orang Indonesia sendiri . Tapi bukan golongan gitaris Indonesia yang hebat hebat. kalau hebat hebat malah teman. Paling Gitaris kacangan yang bisa main Adelita tapi coba kritik main Bach atau Paganini dan pengecut tanpa identitas jelas dan nama samaran
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you didn't answer my question! are you really a student of Prof. Elliot Fisk? when do you graduate your guitar study with him? I mean in which year? because in Indonesia you tell a public lying. do you have a certificate from the Koeln Music University?
. Eliot wrote: .I am very happy to declare that Lianto Tjahjoputro was my student in Koeln, Germany, at the Hochschule fuer Musik Rheinland for several years during the 1980's. I was extremely happy to work with Lianto and I consider him a great talent on the guitar and a soulful and special musician. It is true that Lianto did not complete a degree in Koeln, but he has always remained in my memory as one of the biggest talents I have ever taught.(The complete one,read in my biography book)
so you didn't have a certificate or diploma, how can you said that you studied in Germany under Prof. Elliot Fisk, what a bad story! know you said by yourself about the real fact! what a shame, you sell mr. Fisk name all over Indonesia even all over the world, what a pity! I've heard all of your students were gone, because you were in jail for 2 days. the news is written in the newspaper, but I want to know from you what really happened????
prof.fisk obviously is a pretensious git if he is letting this uy play such a technically demandin piece wen he blatantly cant play it well..its embarrasing.....so is fisk incredbly shite version of paganinis 24 caprice it seeems as though fisk is only good at bein pretensious.
@yandipur1 You are very proud about your Achens certificate, but in Indonesia, you even cant play anything than Adelita. How about recital duel meet with me? Lets play your five top difficult pieces and five tops mine. We each play ten pieces. Dont use any nickname. It just embarrasses your Achen.
@yandipur1 Okay, Achen's alumnus. When will we held our recital duel meet in Indonesia? Remember to bring your Achen's certificate diploma on the stage. Show the Indonesian audience before we play. I'm waiting for you as soon as possible.
??? kamu gitaris Indonesia pengecut yang mana memakai nama samaran tetapi sok tau tentang Bach dan merasa ahli. Bagaimana kalau kutantang Resital Duel Meet. Tunjukkan 5 lagu andalanmu, demikian juga aku. Kita masing masing bermain 10 lagu, atau kalau kamu takut recital live denganku, kirimkan saja Chaconne, Toccata Fuga di youtube, biar aku tahu bahwa kamu bukan gitaris kroco yang sok tahu.
Bagi kita yang dibesarkan ditengah budaya kesenian yang berbeda dengan negara asal, interpretasi terhadap karya2 dari Barat dari anak negeri tetap perlu diacungi jempol, luar biasa. Sama susahnya orang bule menyanyikan keroncong.
haha om... aku henry & victor... yg ini lagu paling aku suka hehe... om rekamin lagui "ES LILIN ala om donk" keren tuh aku suka lagu ES lilinnya om... taro youtube hohoho
Oh my god, please send me the score! I will be forever grateful!
NstGuitarist 3 weeks ago
the most wonderful " Hungarian Rhapsody " I've never heard !
Bravo !!!
guitaronly17 1 month ago
wow that made my night. look at those finger strechtes.. ridiculous. sounded sweet too
supercookieduster 1 month ago
can u send me the score ? just maybe i will learn it in the university or something ... :DD
iamsavarez@citromail.hu <- my mail *thank you
IamDaCapo 1 month ago
That waaaaas awesome !!!!! wow
nedomrdlo 1 month ago
ese man como toca de sucio, le falta limpieza, claridad y calidad ,, no es la gran cosa,,
anqpguitar 2 months ago
A lot of my friends who play music usually say that Asians play their instruments very well, but without any sense of feeling or expression, I have to admit I sometimes surrender to that notion as well.
But this guy, even though he makes some obvious mistakes, really adds a lot of emotion to his playing. Fucking Bravo.
AchelonX 2 months ago
kkkkkk face lmao.. wtf lol!!!!
zaken6 2 months ago
I started playing violin at age 6 and this was my first and continues to be my absolute favorite classical piece of all time...bravo mate, keep it up.
samzscott 2 months ago
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samzscott 2 months ago
you makes me cry, I HAVE A NEW IDOL
elchicofiestero 3 months ago 2
I just dont get it
I know this is very hard to play, and this guy does it, same with pictures at an exhibition, but it will never sound as good as they sound in the piano, simply because they ARE for piano
its like paganini's capricce 24 played on the double bass, it will never sound as it sounds in the violin
javierr999 3 months ago
this guy make me jizz in my pants
shadowjuan2 4 months ago
ESSE CARA TOCA MUITO!
shaveslavers 4 months ago
This is insane. Amazing!!
sk8luv333 4 months ago
OMG! not only the audiences, but you also enjoy your guitar playing and it seems that you are in "another world", and I bet that when you are playing guitar, you can't remember anything around you
DennyDhani 4 months ago
Job well done!
mraquinas 6 months ago
Possibly, he is one of the most professional guitarist I've ever seen...
jetbutut90 6 months ago
Beautiful, dear Lianto!
Yuriy21 8 months ago
I'm making tabs for this right now based on the sound. So far I only made it for 0:00 - 1:21. I might do a video of me doing a cover for those later on :)
lavamaster530 8 months ago
@lavamaster530
If you want the actual score i can send you it
kikkom4n 2 months ago
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lavamaster530 8 months ago
JIZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
AJHans12 9 months ago
Simplemente, SUBLIME.
Mrelocodemierda95 9 months ago
great !!!
vetmath2 9 months ago
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UGLY FACE , UGLY PLAYING
sampah3 9 months ago
i think this is a exelent cover of this piece by a guitarist... the guitar is harder to transpose to piano than visa versa.. so i think for a guitar cover its very good..
handycappo 1 year ago
Increíble y vibrante interpretación llena de energia, virtuosísmo y musicalidad! mi mas sincera enhorabuena. BRAVO!!
carlokapuscinski 1 year ago
Listz is very difficult to play on the piano - it's much moire difficult to play on the guitar inf act I've never heard a guitar version of this rhapsody.
You are absolutely GREAT - well done.
mychoicegrech 1 year ago 13
@mychoicegrech i did not imagine it was possible to play this piece on guitar.....it surprised me!
justinoalberic00 1 month ago
he eats alot of burger king !!
alleverrr 1 year ago
very... emphatic playing. certainly very good, I admit but... very.... em(twitch)phati(wibble)c.
pax.
childofape 1 year ago
Great performance but this piece is really meant for a piano. There just aren't enough tones that a guitar can produce to fully experience this great music :)
gyurchev 1 year ago
6:11 : METAL!!!!!!
drakeluv92 1 year ago
пыхтел, пыхтел, да не выпыхтел
NeedMorePowerGir 1 year ago
Bravo!
More guitarists like Liantro should post their performances on You tube. Hats off to anybody who can do this stuff. The people who pick at performances like this are usually people who have tried to play guitar for many years but lack the talent. So they enjoy highlighting the imperfections in those who can do it.
EeyoreTiggerPooh2 1 year ago
greaaaattttt
Re9syr 1 year ago
Thank you! I laugh at the clown wanabees that criticize you. I hope you do too.
EarlLedden 1 year ago
It always cracks me up to see these long responses that are unrelated to the video.
But anyways, I have this transcription and its actually really good. Sadly he obviously did not practice it nearly enough. Its very sloppy and he is way too dramatic. Not a bad showman to the untrained eye I suppose.
DrStabkill 1 year ago
@DrStabkill hey is there a way i can get this transcription from you by email or sumthing?
or do u know where i can find it for free? please help
tikidung 1 year ago
@tikidung yes, go to scribd.com when you get ther type in "hungarian rhapsody for solo guitar" in their search section. You will have to be able to open it in PDF format. I have also found it thhrough basic search engines. The only stipulation is that you must type in -for solo guitar. Let me know if you have any issues. But let me tell you, this song is a beast to read.
DrStabkill 1 year ago
@DrStabkill aww cool =]
thanks soo much. im looking forward to a couple years reading this -__-
jk =]
tikidung 1 year ago
@tikidung hi can you also share the score with me. I am sorry to intrude and also thx in advance for any help.
1Yonzon 1 year ago
@DrStabkill hi sorry to intrude butcan you also help me find the score? I tired scribd but my search turned up nothing.
1Yonzon 1 year ago
this is such a remarcable rendition of this amazing piece on guitar!..requires extreme dexterity to be executed..though a bit rough, it sounds amazing..keep it up!
soniramsonitnatsnok 1 year ago
Jaw Dropping BRAVO! I have never seen guitar playing like this...
ReturnOfTheStienway 1 year ago
Permainan anda dalam Hungarian Rhapsodie No 2 Liszt itu hebat sekali, lagu ini permainan dalam piano saja sudah sangat sulit, apalagi anda memainkannya dalam gitar sampai begitu perfect, saya rasa bukan hanya pujian saja yang bisa saya utarakan,saya sangat tidak tahu bagaimana menyinggungnya, kalau dalam bahasa Mandarin istilahnya "出神入化(chu shenˊ ruˋ huaˋ)" kalau diterjemahkan dalam bahasa English "one's skill reaches the acme of perfection"
William1638 1 year ago
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William1638 1 year ago
sloppy
GALACTICGATE1111 1 year ago
AWESOME!!! Maestro this is a wonderful rendering of Liszt's Rhapsody! Truly amazing! It's always been one of my absolute favourite pieces of music of all time. Thank you so much for playing it for us! God bless you!
redmansounds 1 year ago
it's annoying. you should know your technique limitations
gpcracker888 1 year ago
jodio PAYASOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NO MAMESSSSSSSSS, la musica no es hacer caras y menos cuando tocas tan horribleeeee.
angsalvel 2 years ago
interesting to see. not to ear
renatovcortereal 2 years ago
why???
Achilleas1995 2 years ago
Awesome. I think I recall hearing this song featured on an old Tom and Jerry episode from my childhood days.
jtothedubya 2 years ago
Probably the hardest flashy piece to play off on classical guitar, in my opinion.
casonetto 2 years ago
XDXDXDXDXD
thejugglenaut90 2 years ago
sick. Only a classical guitarist could pull crap like this off. That's just freaking amazing. zomg. :)
techie646 2 years ago
@techie646 crap....you got that one right!
paultreselli 2 years ago
5 stars ***** for the effort (Kazuhito Y. would get 10 stars!) and for entertainment value. It looks like you enjoyed this tremendously and sounds like the entire audience did too. I certainly enjoyed this. Thanks.
ricointx 2 years ago
Congrats, it's a very very very difficult piece!
luizcadu 2 years ago
Well done! Though there is few trips it is still a great achievement.
iankyoko 2 years ago 2
Bagus sekali !!! Bagus sekali !!! His heart is in the music !!!
Watch it from this budaya !
Rein,
reinmarchal 2 years ago
is a fucking clown.. is good.. but is a FACKING CLOWN...
bradpitin79 2 years ago
On jest hardkorem!
fesiopl 2 years ago
awssome
MrElbruno 2 years ago
It is very hard this song to play...He even can't play it...Don't try to play it... :-0
mariospkt 2 years ago
100% agree with you not to play this piece! it's really a pity for an eliot fisk stuudent to play this hard piece with a bad intepretation.
yandipur1 2 years ago
Yeah...Actually this piece needs at least 2 guitars...a marvelous, amazing performance gave the L.A.G.Q...this guitarist play this song too ...but it is completeless..it need more notes and more clear sound.....It is too difficult to play...It needs a lot of practice.....( I'm sorry for my english)..
mariospkt 2 years ago
@mariospkt
you should listen to KY play it
its pretty impressive and sounds particularly gypsy like
kikkom4n 1 year ago
listen to the vid response
NathanS1994 2 years ago 4
omg xd
ferg6us 2 years ago
plays with a very much round arm.
Like me:)
NathanS1994 2 years ago
I've heard it referred as "not choking the neck," and I try to keep my posture with electrics the same.
tonehog 2 years ago
great musician... we saw it, he can play the guitar very well... but i think those songs are not for that instrument...
trufas666 2 years ago
bravo bravo
26030656 2 years ago
HOLY CRAP THIS GUY IS AWESOME! ahahahahaha
jtchen22 2 years ago
mate you should never have performed this....not that i could have attempted it however i know when someone isnt up to the challange and lets be honest..it doesnt take a genius to see that...though it take a technical genius to pull this off. fisk is over rated anyway he does the same same to paaninis caprice 24 as you do with this piece: ruins it.
p6rn6g6thic 3 years ago 4
agreed he is an awesome guitar player but its so hard to pull this off by yourself on a guitar. I would also like to someone who got even close besides me lol just kidding
Johancielto13 2 years ago
Sorry, you have not done justice to this piece at all. You need to practice with the metronome first.
jawdim29tu 3 years ago
03:40. Oniric, awesome, formidable!!! What a technique!!!! I think if Tjahjoputro keep improving in his skills, the legacy of Kazuhito Yamashita will not be lost.
dumisedodan 3 years ago 3
you are sucks
chang24y 3 years ago
please, let Liszt rest in peace!!!
violadordemasas 3 years ago
he definitely cannot play this piece, not enough technique, and feeling like an indonesian song
o0o0oo00oo00 3 years ago
Don't be such a git.
Grayfog 3 years ago
true. this is at most a home party performance. shouldn't play at a concert. even tuning is not right.
if you can't agree, watch the same piece played by yamashita.
rnmmrn 2 years ago 3
¡¡Este es el triángulo de los GENIOS: Liszt,
Yamashita y Tjahjoputro!!
Incomparable técnica puesta al servicio de una gran musicalidad.Este genio debe haber
venido del mismo planeta que Yamashita.
¡¡Sos un genio Lianto Tjahjoputro!!
osvaldoraul 3 years ago
WOW
PickingSaffron 3 years ago
la mejor interpretación en guitarra que he visto en toda mi vida (sin exagerar)ya de por sí es una pieza perfecta y en guitarra lo es aun mas; mis felicitaciones por ser tan chingón!!!!!!!!!!!!
ratahorrible 3 years ago
He is a great guitarist, but is really over emoting here and seems like he is in love with his playing otherwise a great performance of a very difficult piece.
anewlow23 3 years ago
I'm Hungarian, really good song, grat the guitarrist and Ferenc Liszt (:
erickoston05 3 years ago
Awesome
lyonsd1875 3 years ago
Pakkkk, keren pakk... :D
-Calvin-
mumetz66 3 years ago
Hallo Calvin, kangen om...... kalau ada pesta ultah jangan lupa undang om lho ya.
Liantotjahjoputro 3 years ago
wah banyak punya fans pemula ya, pak! tapi intepretasi memang tidak bisa menipu, dari sudut mata pemusik mungkin bapak harus banyak mendengarkan & mempelajari karya aslinya dulu sebelum performance ini di publikasikan keseluruh seantero dunia. menurut saya interpretasi karya ini gagal total dan saya melihat repertoire anda hanya mencari pengakuan atau jati diri saja bahwa anda sanggup memainkan karya susah & bukan mencoba mengintepretasikan suatu karya dengan benar, sekali lagi sayang ....
yandipur1 3 years ago
O saya sudah terbiasa dikritik orang Indonesia sendiri . Tapi bukan golongan gitaris Indonesia yang hebat hebat. kalau hebat hebat malah teman. Paling Gitaris kacangan yang bisa main Adelita tapi coba kritik main Bach atau Paganini dan pengecut tanpa identitas jelas dan nama samaran
Liantotjahjoputro 3 years ago
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you didn't answer my question! are you really a student of Prof. Elliot Fisk? when do you graduate your guitar study with him? I mean in which year? because in Indonesia you tell a public lying. do you have a certificate from the Koeln Music University?
yandipur1 3 years ago
. Eliot wrote: .I am very happy to declare that Lianto Tjahjoputro was my student in Koeln, Germany, at the Hochschule fuer Musik Rheinland for several years during the 1980's. I was extremely happy to work with Lianto and I consider him a great talent on the guitar and a soulful and special musician. It is true that Lianto did not complete a degree in Koeln, but he has always remained in my memory as one of the biggest talents I have ever taught.(The complete one,read in my biography book)
Liantotjahjoputro 3 years ago
so you didn't have a certificate or diploma, how can you said that you studied in Germany under Prof. Elliot Fisk, what a bad story! know you said by yourself about the real fact! what a shame, you sell mr. Fisk name all over Indonesia even all over the world, what a pity! I've heard all of your students were gone, because you were in jail for 2 days. the news is written in the newspaper, but I want to know from you what really happened????
yandipur1 3 years ago
Just think it by yourself, or u also can ask Prof. Elliot Fisk, because he knows all about that, okay bro? Bye ^ ^
Liantotjahjoputro 3 years ago
prof.fisk obviously is a pretensious git if he is letting this uy play such a technically demandin piece wen he blatantly cant play it well..its embarrasing.....so is fisk incredbly shite version of paganinis 24 caprice it seeems as though fisk is only good at bein pretensious.
p6rn6g6thic 3 years ago
@yandipur1 You are very proud about your Achens certificate, but in Indonesia, you even cant play anything than Adelita. How about recital duel meet with me? Lets play your five top difficult pieces and five tops mine. We each play ten pieces. Dont use any nickname. It just embarrasses your Achen.
Liantotjahjoputro 1 year ago
@yandipur1 Okay, Achen's alumnus. When will we held our recital duel meet in Indonesia? Remember to bring your Achen's certificate diploma on the stage. Show the Indonesian audience before we play. I'm waiting for you as soon as possible.
Liantotjahjoputro 1 year ago
??? kamu gitaris Indonesia pengecut yang mana memakai nama samaran tetapi sok tau tentang Bach dan merasa ahli. Bagaimana kalau kutantang Resital Duel Meet. Tunjukkan 5 lagu andalanmu, demikian juga aku. Kita masing masing bermain 10 lagu, atau kalau kamu takut recital live denganku, kirimkan saja Chaconne, Toccata Fuga di youtube, biar aku tahu bahwa kamu bukan gitaris kroco yang sok tahu.
Liantotjahjoputro 3 years ago
@yandipur1 gimana tantanganku, lulusan Achen Jerman? Kamu masi tidur aja jadi gitaris? gimana tantanganku recital duel meet? kapan diadakan?
Liantotjahjoputro 1 year ago 4
Bagi kita yang dibesarkan ditengah budaya kesenian yang berbeda dengan negara asal, interpretasi terhadap karya2 dari Barat dari anak negeri tetap perlu diacungi jempol, luar biasa. Sama susahnya orang bule menyanyikan keroncong.
MrMarjohan 9 months ago
you're rock!!man!!!! congrad!!
gitarre1987 3 years ago
Thank, are u living in Thailand or America. I saw also ur Giuliani, Greats.
Liantotjahjoputro 3 years ago
very interesting performing, congratulations,
are you interested to visit México?
sergiogascag 3 years ago
wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow!
I don't Believe
ferpopp 3 years ago
oh ahaha, it's tough to play those high notes on classical guitar. bravo!
jakaput 3 years ago
pro
tangyx127 3 years ago
awesome!
JesseGuitar07 3 years ago
haha om... aku henry & victor... yg ini lagu paling aku suka hehe... om rekamin lagui "ES LILIN ala om donk" keren tuh aku suka lagu ES lilinnya om... taro youtube hohoho
Sancipa 3 years ago
He he he salam Jumpa di you tube. Ajak papa
dan mama nonton ya
Liantotjahjoputro 3 years ago
Ha ha ha siapa kamu kog panggil om
Liantotjahjoputro 3 years ago
he..he.. yg pasti salah satu penggemarlah Om..aku pasivisnya kpgki.jadi bukan aktivis..
ferpetlab71 3 years ago
Wow..kereen..
Ekspresinya itu lho..bisa besaing sama Dimitri Illarionov nih..play by emosion..sukses Om..
ferpetlab71 3 years ago