PEOPLE SHOULD STAY AWAY. THEY HAVE DONE ENOUGH DAMAGE WITH THIER ROADS, HORRIBLE LOOKING PLASTIC CONDOMIMUIMS AND HOTELS. PLEASE STAY AWAY AND LEAVE THE SEALS ALONE. SOME ONE SHOULD PUT UP A FENCE THERE TO KEEP PEOPLE OUT.
I have never heard of this issue before and I found it by accident but I just want to say I am 100% behind this! I love seals and they must be very thankful there are wonderful people like you in the world!
This is absolutely the best place to see seals. Protect the beach. Whenever I am in SD I make a point of going to La Jolla to see these beautiful animals.
You are absolutely right about Sea World, they helped to create this mess. You have to understand, All of the seal were not picked up at Children's Pool, they have been rescued from up and down the coast of San Diego county to the Mexican boarder, but they should have been returned to were they were picked up! Its like if you were picked up by an ambulance at you house in the desert and then released on the streets in down town. I am just informing the public of the truth, Im not spreading lies.
These seals are here because Sea World put them their.... they are the ones who helped to create this mess, along with The city council and mayor in the mid 90's
They are beautiful creatures and should not be domesticated just so we can get up close to see them... respect the seals , keep them wild in there natural environment and not on a MAN MADE BEACH for children...
These seals are here because Sea World put them their.... they are the ones who helped to create this mess, along with The city council and mayor in the mid 90's
They are beautiful creatures and should not be domesticated just so we can get up close to see them... respect the seals , keep them wild in there natural environment and not on a MAN MADE BEACH for children...
The name of this beach has been changed to Children's Pool voted by the city council of San Diego 80 years ago in appreciation for the gift from Ellen Browning Scripps as she created a safe place for children to enter and enjoy the ocean.
Most of these seals have been introduced here by Sea World after Mayor Goldding in the mid 90's to create a seal rock reserve and now the rehabilitated seals have taken over the beach, and thanks to the city council of today we have a shared use beach for all..
@MrSandcrabs do you have proof about this sea world statement? I have heard people say it, however I have not seen one person refer to where they found this info and whether it is accurate or not?
@MrSandcrabs First of all, thank you for the information. I really appreciate it. My main question at this point is that these seals came from our Pacific waters right? They were rehabilitated and released back into the Pacific waters, which happened to be in Casa Beach. So shouldn't everyone be fighting seaworld, not each other? It is not the seals fault they have been welcome there. Again, I appreciate the info.
@4passitontoday You are absolutely right about Sea World, they helped to create this mess. You have to understand, All of the seal were not picked up at Children's Pool, they have been rescued from up and down the coast of San Diego county to the Mexican boarder, but they should have been returned to were they were picked up! Its like if you were picked up by an ambulance at you house in the desert and then released on the streets in down town. I am just informing the public of the truth.
i don't see why people have to use this small beach while there is a very large and beautiful one just 1 mile north and while there are thousands of beaches in California. the way i see it, some people are just so selfish. do we have to wait until these seals are in danger to let them use the beach. please, just leave them alone. it doesn't hurt you a thing.
Most of this seal colony were introduced here by Sea World in the mid 90's, over 120 rehab seal to create the seal rock reserve that back fired, seals preferred the soft sandy beach and they are no longer afraid of humans. The city of SD did this without a EIR, now we have a MAN MADE PROBLEM ON A MAN MADE BEACH.
Educate yourself with the facts
Here are a couple sites I found with factuality documents.
These seals are lazy and serve no purpose. I am also an environmentalist but the seals took over the beach there is plenty of land for them on the rocks or buoys.
I respect nature.I support the MLPA, I am a supporter of PADI aware, and I am doing my best to stop shark finning but this excessive amount of seals located on one beach which raises the bacterial content in the water, is most certainly not natural.
Great video, and I totally support the seals staying there. Unfortunately, the "friends of seals" volunteers tend to be too fanatical and harass people that aren't breaking any laws, and are making enemies out of would be friends.
If you want to watch Seals, go to SEAWORLD. Because of these Seals, the Great White Sharks will soon be coming to San Diego / La Jolla Beaches. More Seals = More Great White Sharks. Google this “LA JOLLA SHARK ATTACK” and see for yourself. If you want to swim in San Diego’s Beaches, get rid of these Seals… otherwise watch your back for a Great White Shark when you swim or surf. Return Children’s Pool back to the “Children” as it was intended.
If you want to watch Seals, go to SEAWORLD. Because of these Seals, the Great White Sharks will soon be coming to San Diego / La Jolla Beaches. More Seals = More Great White Sharks. Google this “LA JOLLA SHARK ATTACK” and see for yourself. If you want to swim in San Diego’s Beaches, get rid of these Seals… otherwise watch your back for a Great White Shark when you swim or surf. Return Children’s Pool back to the “Children” as it was intended.
If you want to watch Seals, go to SEAWORLD. Because of these Seals, the Great White Sharks will soon be coming to San Diego / La Jolla Beaches. More Seals = More Great White Sharks. Google this “LA JOLLA SHARK ATTACK” and see for yourself. If you want to swim in San Diego’s Beaches, get rid of these Seals… otherwise watch your back for a Great White Shark when you swim or surf. Return Children’s Pool back to the “Children” as it was intended.
Get your facts straight. This whole video is full of blatant lies. Biologists with over 35 years of experience have stated that the seals are in no danger from beach use by people.
I grew up going to San Diego every weekend. The seals do make it a child's pool. I am old enough to know what it was like for a child before and after the seals, my lil sister doesn' t even remember a time without them on the beach instead of that rock. I love the seals and join a FB group to protect them and signed many papers for them. ^_^
I've been on the side of the trust mostly, but do you think by this point in history, we could say?: "Alright, take this one...", lol. "we've taken everything around it anyways".
I'd never want to see kids in that water .. they have the other side and that's fine. This part isn't suitable for kids. I love the seals .. they were the first place I took my son when I brought him out to San Diego .. it's mesmerizing to watch them. I can't believe this is still an ongoing issue after all this time.
it's a man made lagoon funded as a donation to San Diego...that the seals then took over. how did seals ever manage to survive before the seawall was constructed? surely this is NOT the only rookery. get real, get your facts straight. This beach is used to attract tourists and doesn't consider the seals well being at all
That is a great video. I am on my 5th year volunteering at that beach and people from around the world are amazed at such a wonderful site and they can't believe that a few people want to destroy this beach for own selfish use.
Ironically, getting to see the seals once a year in their natural habitat is for the children, rather than paying money for a zoo. How cool is that, when all I have to do is take my children to see this special phenomenon.
screw the seals. its was a great children beach. then the seals RAIDED it and attacked the children. SEVERELY injuring several children. they came in and took OUR land. its not like we are taking something from them. we r just taking it back! besides its already been proved that the seals here provide no benefit for the shoreline ecosystem.
Seals are the best animals alive! How can you possibly say "screw the seals" and even though the seals came in and started injuring children, think of this: Havn't people injured LOADS of seals?
Incase this is "OUR LAND", then "WE" must have taken their land, the sea...
Your bratty ass children have enough beaches to go to. People are so thoughtless and selfish. "OUR LAND" lol that sounds so idiotic I don't even need to say anything about that.
Let the seals have this small part of the beach, what is it? Like 200 feet? And we can enjoy the hundreds of miles of beach we already have along the west coast people.
I read earlier that seals are turning up dead with gun shot wounds? People throwing rocks and spitting at them? That's wrong folks, I'd have to say that I'm for the Seals and the environmental groups on this issue.
Ellen Browning set up a trust to construct and maintain this area for children to safely swim in. The trust, since she is dead, pays for that and only that. It does not pay for SeaWorld or any other home to endangered animals. Petition the Gov't to stop the destriction of rainforests...STILL!!!!!
Seals are one of many. I love seals, the ocean, and I'm a vegetarian. I also live in la jolla.
The big stink about the seals was that they destroy the beach with their bile and fecal matter and now because of it the people can't use the childrens pool which was who the beach was intended for.
The seals are protected under the National Marine Mammal Act... and that TRUMPS any law our CORRUPT City Council tries to pass against the seals!!!! THE ANTI-SEAL PEOPLE ARE A FEW RICH LA JOLLA RESIDENTS AND IGNORANT JERKS. SCOTT PETERS Should be ashamed for ignoring Federal law and being so anti-environment for some rich La Jolla people!
Me and my family go there almost every year. And the adults love it just as much as the children. Its a wonderful expirience, and just something that you have to see for yourself. I love La Jolla!
Very nice video and great to get the word out. As a resident La Jollan, I know there is plenty of beach space for both humans and seals. Let the seals have their rookery--the tourists love it and leave more educated about our marine life.
@bzlassie I really don't see why the city of SD would not be in favor of preserving a beach for seals. I have never seen seals on the beach in any other So Cal location. If they made an official seal preserve, I think it would attract alot more tourists because it will guarantee the seals will be there. I mean, people pay money to go to Sea World to see the same exact animal, so making a seal attraction would make La Jolla awesome.
A second comment/question: The seals have survived just fine for thousands if not millions of years on their own, without the childrens pool, in a bloody, brutal, danger filled ocean. Don't you feel that it is the height of human arrogance to think that without your interference they will perish?
Species are diminishing around the world due to human hands with and without guns. More with guns. Seals can't read. They don't know it was created as a children's pool. I simply feel that if the Seals find this to be an ideal place to raise their young then we should allow it. It's quite refreshing to be able to see habitat without having to 'pay' for it like going to a zoo...where they are also enslaved. Isn't that the height of human arrogance?
What do guns have to do with the problem at children's pool? NOTHING. The population of harbor seals in california isn't even endangered, rather it is expanding at an alarming rate due to overzealous protection. Further, there are over 1200 haulout sites in california per the PhDs at the DFG. What are your qualifications that make you think you know more than they do about this? Do you have a docterate in marine bio?
You wrote: "Most species die due to slash and burn techniques in the rainforests for the raising of cattle"
My reply: True, but in sheer volume, most life forms are dying on this earth and we are no longer going to have wild caught ocean fish available to feed humans in less than 50 years.
lori, you say above "We've built plenty of swimming areas and it's a parent's responsibility to keep their child safe while swimming." Where are those places and what makes you qualified to decide what is a safe place to take a child in the ocean? Are you an ocean professional such as a lifeguard? Because those people, the EXPERTS, say that there AREN'T any safe places nearby. What makes you think you know better than they do?
You only need walk up a few more yards to see where there is more beach front in La Jolla. Children do not need to go swimming in the Ocean. Note I said plenty of "swimming areas." That would mean swimming pools. When people have swimming pools in their back yard they don't have lifeguards. It's the parent's responsibility to help a child when swimming. No swimming in any water is 'safe' especially without supervision, and that includes the bathtub for some children.
but lori, that beach a few yards north is EXTREMLY dangerous, even to experienced swimmers due to a constant and heavy rip current. There is NO such current at the children's pool. in fact, the childrens pool is one of only 3 beaches in all of San diego that is listed as safe for inexperienced swimmers. Again, what are your qualifications that make you think you know what is a safe place in the ocean?
What I said was that children do not need to swim in the Ocean. In fact most do not 'swim.' They run around, play, throw water at the edge. Why are you asking my qualifications? What are yours? You obviously have an interest and so do I. That is exactly why I made the video to begin with--to share my opinion. I have a right. I'm a tax paying citizen.
Lori, What happened to my response to your questions? Why did you delete it? I anwsered your questions in a rational manner, and backed up my assertions with science based facts and provided my qualifications as well as reasons for doing so. All I am asking is that you and the La Jolla Friends of the Seals do the same. Is it that hard to simply be HONEST with the public? Apparently so.
I didn't work or volunteer for La Jolla Friends of Seals. As far as I'm concerned your comments about my experience were offensive and unnecessary and that is why they were removed. You are taking up your time, energy and anger on the wrong entity in the wrong place. BTW--Your TRUTH is different than mine. If there is so much information out there to counter what I have to say--Use it to educate people with your assertions. I'm not a journalist and I haven't professed to be one.
I have the perfect solution, tear down the wall and return this beach to its original status. The wall was built for the children (swimmers) who are not allowed to use it anymore and as the video states this area was a seal colony long before the wall. So lets eliminate the man made aspect and return it to its original splendor!
Nice idea, but that's not legally possible from any aspect. The trust or the MMPA. This has been a shared use beach since it was built up until someone found a way to make a profit by swindling poor tourists out of donations that aren't used for anything in any way to protect what doesn't need protection. Shared use worked 45 years. It can still work. The beach is usable by people and seals. I just don't see the conflict unless I follow the money.
A few facts and a few lies. Pretty much the standard for any of the videos about "Childrens Pool". (refered to as "Casa Beach" to distance the truth) For 30 years I shared this beach with seals with no problem, NOW you want it NOT for shared use? This is the best beach for young swimmers in San Diego. Life Guard, Showers, protection from breaking surf. Sad that you want to take that away from the children and send them to unsafe beaches.
Thank you for your comment. Unfortunately, others are not as good at sharing property. Most war and conflict is about territory. I love children, but what's a better lesson: swimming or seeing valuable habitat procreate and live where they want? These and other species deserve a place for themselves and I don't mean the zoo. We've built plenty of swimming areas and it's a parent's responsibility to keep their child safe while swimming.
My intention wasn't to advocate for dual use. In my opinion, it's a gift to be able to go to Casa Beach and see glorious marine life. In so many other areas humans have blotted out species. Here's another place where they are trying the same thing. It's really the duty of the people that believe the Harbor seals have a right to their beach to be vocal and speak up or back to the bullies, on the seal's behalf.
Uhm, what about those who support dual use? Listen, there's no denying Children's Pool was deeded to the city decades ago under the proviso that the beach always be kept open for the people of San Diego. A judge recently upheld this ruling.
whack jobs it is called children's pool.
brettmberry619 2 months ago
seal loving wack jobs !!!!! hope a white shark moves in and eats them all
MrRcDumper 4 months ago
PEOPLE SHOULD STAY AWAY. THEY HAVE DONE ENOUGH DAMAGE WITH THIER ROADS, HORRIBLE LOOKING PLASTIC CONDOMIMUIMS AND HOTELS. PLEASE STAY AWAY AND LEAVE THE SEALS ALONE. SOME ONE SHOULD PUT UP A FENCE THERE TO KEEP PEOPLE OUT.
TheEarthcam 8 months ago
this beach is for humans...........go away
surfandshop 10 months ago
I have never heard of this issue before and I found it by accident but I just want to say I am 100% behind this! I love seals and they must be very thankful there are wonderful people like you in the world!
overhang88 11 months ago
This is absolutely the best place to see seals. Protect the beach. Whenever I am in SD I make a point of going to La Jolla to see these beautiful animals.
Don't miss the aquarium at UCSD either.
TheGailrubino 11 months ago
You are absolutely right about Sea World, they helped to create this mess. You have to understand, All of the seal were not picked up at Children's Pool, they have been rescued from up and down the coast of San Diego county to the Mexican boarder, but they should have been returned to were they were picked up! Its like if you were picked up by an ambulance at you house in the desert and then released on the streets in down town. I am just informing the public of the truth, Im not spreading lies.
MrSandcrabs 1 year ago
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These seals are here because Sea World put them their.... they are the ones who helped to create this mess, along with The city council and mayor in the mid 90's
They are beautiful creatures and should not be domesticated just so we can get up close to see them... respect the seals , keep them wild in there natural environment and not on a MAN MADE BEACH for children...
MrSandcrabs 1 year ago
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These seals are here because Sea World put them their.... they are the ones who helped to create this mess, along with The city council and mayor in the mid 90's
They are beautiful creatures and should not be domesticated just so we can get up close to see them... respect the seals , keep them wild in there natural environment and not on a MAN MADE BEACH for children...
MrSandcrabs 1 year ago
The name of this beach has been changed to Children's Pool voted by the city council of San Diego 80 years ago in appreciation for the gift from Ellen Browning Scripps as she created a safe place for children to enter and enjoy the ocean.
Most of these seals have been introduced here by Sea World after Mayor Goldding in the mid 90's to create a seal rock reserve and now the rehabilitated seals have taken over the beach, and thanks to the city council of today we have a shared use beach for all..
MrSandcrabs 1 year ago
@MrSandcrabs do you have proof about this sea world statement? I have heard people say it, however I have not seen one person refer to where they found this info and whether it is accurate or not?
4passitontoday 1 year ago
@4passitontoday Here is a web site with the courts findings and order of the law suite for the city's breach of trust.
children's pool.org legal/2005-08-25-o-sullivan-vs-city
Also,.friends of the children's pool.com seal_rehab.
click on Rehabilitation Disposition Form NOAA Fisheries Services
MrSandcrabs 1 year ago
@4passitontoday on the court document, pages 22,27 and 30 is about Sea World release program.
MrSandcrabs 1 year ago
@MrSandcrabs First of all, thank you for the information. I really appreciate it. My main question at this point is that these seals came from our Pacific waters right? They were rehabilitated and released back into the Pacific waters, which happened to be in Casa Beach. So shouldn't everyone be fighting seaworld, not each other? It is not the seals fault they have been welcome there. Again, I appreciate the info.
4passitontoday 1 year ago
@4passitontoday You are absolutely right about Sea World, they helped to create this mess. You have to understand, All of the seal were not picked up at Children's Pool, they have been rescued from up and down the coast of San Diego county to the Mexican boarder, but they should have been returned to were they were picked up! Its like if you were picked up by an ambulance at you house in the desert and then released on the streets in down town. I am just informing the public of the truth.
MrSandcrabs 1 year ago
i don't see why people have to use this small beach while there is a very large and beautiful one just 1 mile north and while there are thousands of beaches in California. the way i see it, some people are just so selfish. do we have to wait until these seals are in danger to let them use the beach. please, just leave them alone. it doesn't hurt you a thing.
sisystar 1 year ago
This is NOT there NATURAL ENVIRONMENT
Most of this seal colony were introduced here by Sea World in the mid 90's, over 120 rehab seal to create the seal rock reserve that back fired, seals preferred the soft sandy beach and they are no longer afraid of humans. The city of SD did this without a EIR, now we have a MAN MADE PROBLEM ON A MAN MADE BEACH.
Educate yourself with the facts
Here are a couple sites I found with factuality documents.
friends of the childrens pool.com
childrens pool.org
MrOunoit 1 year ago
These seals are lazy and serve no purpose. I am also an environmentalist but the seals took over the beach there is plenty of land for them on the rocks or buoys.
sourdoughress 1 year ago
@sourdoughress ur not an environmentalist, one would respect nature, period.
4passitontoday 1 year ago
@4passitontoday
I respect nature.I support the MLPA, I am a supporter of PADI aware, and I am doing my best to stop shark finning but this excessive amount of seals located on one beach which raises the bacterial content in the water, is most certainly not natural.
sourdoughress 1 year ago
Great video, and I totally support the seals staying there. Unfortunately, the "friends of seals" volunteers tend to be too fanatical and harass people that aren't breaking any laws, and are making enemies out of would be friends.
odysseusnissan 1 year ago
@odysseusnissan I agree, I think people are loosing sight of the real issue, instead of seals vs people, its become people vs. people.
4passitontoday 1 year ago
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If you want to watch Seals, go to SEAWORLD. Because of these Seals, the Great White Sharks will soon be coming to San Diego / La Jolla Beaches. More Seals = More Great White Sharks. Google this “LA JOLLA SHARK ATTACK” and see for yourself. If you want to swim in San Diego’s Beaches, get rid of these Seals… otherwise watch your back for a Great White Shark when you swim or surf. Return Children’s Pool back to the “Children” as it was intended.
rocketscyther 1 year ago
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If you want to watch Seals, go to SEAWORLD. Because of these Seals, the Great White Sharks will soon be coming to San Diego / La Jolla Beaches. More Seals = More Great White Sharks. Google this “LA JOLLA SHARK ATTACK” and see for yourself. If you want to swim in San Diego’s Beaches, get rid of these Seals… otherwise watch your back for a Great White Shark when you swim or surf. Return Children’s Pool back to the “Children” as it was intended.
rocketscyther 1 year ago
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If you want to watch Seals, go to SEAWORLD. Because of these Seals, the Great White Sharks will soon be coming to San Diego / La Jolla Beaches. More Seals = More Great White Sharks. Google this “LA JOLLA SHARK ATTACK” and see for yourself. If you want to swim in San Diego’s Beaches, get rid of these Seals… otherwise watch your back for a Great White Shark when you swim or surf. Return Children’s Pool back to the “Children” as it was intended.
rocketscyther 1 year ago
Please kid, take two and tell your friends to take some also.
uldb 1 year ago
Get your facts straight. This whole video is full of blatant lies. Biologists with over 35 years of experience have stated that the seals are in no danger from beach use by people.
sealadmirer 1 year ago
I grew up going to San Diego every weekend. The seals do make it a child's pool. I am old enough to know what it was like for a child before and after the seals, my lil sister doesn' t even remember a time without them on the beach instead of that rock. I love the seals and join a FB group to protect them and signed many papers for them. ^_^
Zeldagirl86 1 year ago
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4passitontoday 1 year ago
I've been on the side of the trust mostly, but do you think by this point in history, we could say?: "Alright, take this one...", lol. "we've taken everything around it anyways".
s0ngcatcher 2 years ago
I'd never want to see kids in that water .. they have the other side and that's fine. This part isn't suitable for kids. I love the seals .. they were the first place I took my son when I brought him out to San Diego .. it's mesmerizing to watch them. I can't believe this is still an ongoing issue after all this time.
worldpeaz 2 years ago
it's a man made lagoon funded as a donation to San Diego...that the seals then took over. how did seals ever manage to survive before the seawall was constructed? surely this is NOT the only rookery. get real, get your facts straight. This beach is used to attract tourists and doesn't consider the seals well being at all
rhyne26 3 years ago 7
so was the land your living
CaliCal68 2 years ago
That is a great video. I am on my 5th year volunteering at that beach and people from around the world are amazed at such a wonderful site and they can't believe that a few people want to destroy this beach for own selfish use.
sdbcrn 3 years ago
Ironically, getting to see the seals once a year in their natural habitat is for the children, rather than paying money for a zoo. How cool is that, when all I have to do is take my children to see this special phenomenon.
stuntactorsagaftra 3 years ago
screw the seals. its was a great children beach. then the seals RAIDED it and attacked the children. SEVERELY injuring several children. they came in and took OUR land. its not like we are taking something from them. we r just taking it back! besides its already been proved that the seals here provide no benefit for the shoreline ecosystem.
Wildboyzz 3 years ago
Seals are the best animals alive! How can you possibly say "screw the seals" and even though the seals came in and started injuring children, think of this: Havn't people injured LOADS of seals?
Incase this is "OUR LAND", then "WE" must have taken their land, the sea...
Think of that...
Anto395Productions 3 years ago
Your bratty ass children have enough beaches to go to. People are so thoughtless and selfish. "OUR LAND" lol that sounds so idiotic I don't even need to say anything about that.
TarahWolf 2 years ago
the beach smells like shit anyways
shntlly 3 years ago
Let the seals have this small part of the beach, what is it? Like 200 feet? And we can enjoy the hundreds of miles of beach we already have along the west coast people.
I read earlier that seals are turning up dead with gun shot wounds? People throwing rocks and spitting at them? That's wrong folks, I'd have to say that I'm for the Seals and the environmental groups on this issue.
minykim1 3 years ago 4
Most of the seals are gone ) 8
JiggaNigga9 3 years ago
Ellen Browning set up a trust to construct and maintain this area for children to safely swim in. The trust, since she is dead, pays for that and only that. It does not pay for SeaWorld or any other home to endangered animals. Petition the Gov't to stop the destriction of rainforests...STILL!!!!!
Seals are one of many. I love seals, the ocean, and I'm a vegetarian. I also live in la jolla.
s0ngcatcher 3 years ago
The big stink about the seals was that they destroy the beach with their bile and fecal matter and now because of it the people can't use the childrens pool which was who the beach was intended for.
pred178 3 years ago
The seals are protected under the National Marine Mammal Act... and that TRUMPS any law our CORRUPT City Council tries to pass against the seals!!!! THE ANTI-SEAL PEOPLE ARE A FEW RICH LA JOLLA RESIDENTS AND IGNORANT JERKS. SCOTT PETERS Should be ashamed for ignoring Federal law and being so anti-environment for some rich La Jolla people!
sddesigner 3 years ago 2
Your rights are also protected under the Terrorist Act. Don't you feel safe?
s0ngcatcher 3 years ago
Me and my family go there almost every year. And the adults love it just as much as the children. Its a wonderful expirience, and just something that you have to see for yourself. I love La Jolla!
lajollacat 3 years ago
what the hell were they saying when the said seals produce polution just leav them alone thir are plenty of beachs just let them have that one
Blakefe 3 years ago
I find it ironic that she says "observing them in their natural habitat".....with the wall there it aint natural.
If you spend time IN the ocean you'll see plenty of them, got off your arse and into the water!
007Stallion 4 years ago
Very nice video and great to get the word out. As a resident La Jollan, I know there is plenty of beach space for both humans and seals. Let the seals have their rookery--the tourists love it and leave more educated about our marine life.
bzlassie 4 years ago
Thank you and I couldn't agree more about tourists loving it, I can certainly see why.
lorihope908 4 years ago
@lorihope908 agreed! I am a North County resident, and I used to ALWAYS go to this beach to look at the seals.
4passitontoday 1 year ago
@bzlassie I really don't see why the city of SD would not be in favor of preserving a beach for seals. I have never seen seals on the beach in any other So Cal location. If they made an official seal preserve, I think it would attract alot more tourists because it will guarantee the seals will be there. I mean, people pay money to go to Sea World to see the same exact animal, so making a seal attraction would make La Jolla awesome.
I would like to try feeding the seals one day.
JetHawk 1 year ago
A second comment/question: The seals have survived just fine for thousands if not millions of years on their own, without the childrens pool, in a bloody, brutal, danger filled ocean. Don't you feel that it is the height of human arrogance to think that without your interference they will perish?
SDlobsterman 4 years ago 2
Species are diminishing around the world due to human hands with and without guns. More with guns. Seals can't read. They don't know it was created as a children's pool. I simply feel that if the Seals find this to be an ideal place to raise their young then we should allow it. It's quite refreshing to be able to see habitat without having to 'pay' for it like going to a zoo...where they are also enslaved. Isn't that the height of human arrogance?
lorihope908 4 years ago
What do guns have to do with the problem at children's pool? NOTHING. The population of harbor seals in california isn't even endangered, rather it is expanding at an alarming rate due to overzealous protection. Further, there are over 1200 haulout sites in california per the PhDs at the DFG. What are your qualifications that make you think you know more than they do about this? Do you have a docterate in marine bio?
SDlobsterman 4 years ago
Most species die due to slash and burn techniques in the rainforests for the raising of cattle.
s0ngcatcher 3 years ago
You wrote: "Most species die due to slash and burn techniques in the rainforests for the raising of cattle"
My reply: True, but in sheer volume, most life forms are dying on this earth and we are no longer going to have wild caught ocean fish available to feed humans in less than 50 years.
stuntactorsagaftra 3 years ago
Predators steal their lives, not their territory.
kingofseals 4 years ago
@SDlobsterman
Why, yes I do!
EcoManPHD 1 year ago
lori, you say above "We've built plenty of swimming areas and it's a parent's responsibility to keep their child safe while swimming." Where are those places and what makes you qualified to decide what is a safe place to take a child in the ocean? Are you an ocean professional such as a lifeguard? Because those people, the EXPERTS, say that there AREN'T any safe places nearby. What makes you think you know better than they do?
SDlobsterman 4 years ago
You only need walk up a few more yards to see where there is more beach front in La Jolla. Children do not need to go swimming in the Ocean. Note I said plenty of "swimming areas." That would mean swimming pools. When people have swimming pools in their back yard they don't have lifeguards. It's the parent's responsibility to help a child when swimming. No swimming in any water is 'safe' especially without supervision, and that includes the bathtub for some children.
lorihope908 4 years ago
but lori, that beach a few yards north is EXTREMLY dangerous, even to experienced swimmers due to a constant and heavy rip current. There is NO such current at the children's pool. in fact, the childrens pool is one of only 3 beaches in all of San diego that is listed as safe for inexperienced swimmers. Again, what are your qualifications that make you think you know what is a safe place in the ocean?
SDlobsterman 4 years ago 2
What I said was that children do not need to swim in the Ocean. In fact most do not 'swim.' They run around, play, throw water at the edge. Why are you asking my qualifications? What are yours? You obviously have an interest and so do I. That is exactly why I made the video to begin with--to share my opinion. I have a right. I'm a tax paying citizen.
lorihope908 4 years ago
Lori, What happened to my response to your questions? Why did you delete it? I anwsered your questions in a rational manner, and backed up my assertions with science based facts and provided my qualifications as well as reasons for doing so. All I am asking is that you and the La Jolla Friends of the Seals do the same. Is it that hard to simply be HONEST with the public? Apparently so.
SDlobsterman 4 years ago
I didn't work or volunteer for La Jolla Friends of Seals. As far as I'm concerned your comments about my experience were offensive and unnecessary and that is why they were removed. You are taking up your time, energy and anger on the wrong entity in the wrong place. BTW--Your TRUTH is different than mine. If there is so much information out there to counter what I have to say--Use it to educate people with your assertions. I'm not a journalist and I haven't professed to be one.
lorihope908 4 years ago
Children do need to play in the ocean. Nearly 71% of the Earth is ocean.
s0ngcatcher 3 years ago 2
I have the perfect solution, tear down the wall and return this beach to its original status. The wall was built for the children (swimmers) who are not allowed to use it anymore and as the video states this area was a seal colony long before the wall. So lets eliminate the man made aspect and return it to its original splendor!
deathcar 4 years ago 3
Nice idea, but that's not legally possible from any aspect. The trust or the MMPA. This has been a shared use beach since it was built up until someone found a way to make a profit by swindling poor tourists out of donations that aren't used for anything in any way to protect what doesn't need protection. Shared use worked 45 years. It can still work. The beach is usable by people and seals. I just don't see the conflict unless I follow the money.
ffm1501 4 years ago
A few facts and a few lies. Pretty much the standard for any of the videos about "Childrens Pool". (refered to as "Casa Beach" to distance the truth) For 30 years I shared this beach with seals with no problem, NOW you want it NOT for shared use? This is the best beach for young swimmers in San Diego. Life Guard, Showers, protection from breaking surf. Sad that you want to take that away from the children and send them to unsafe beaches.
ffm1501 4 years ago
Thank you for your comment. Unfortunately, others are not as good at sharing property. Most war and conflict is about territory. I love children, but what's a better lesson: swimming or seeing valuable habitat procreate and live where they want? These and other species deserve a place for themselves and I don't mean the zoo. We've built plenty of swimming areas and it's a parent's responsibility to keep their child safe while swimming.
lorihope908 4 years ago
btw i love the video, especially the ending!
V8S10Blazer 4 years ago
oh i was replying to powervideo's suggestion of dual use. :)
V8S10Blazer 4 years ago
unfortunately due to humans treatment of seals they are afraid of humans meaning dual use isnt possible...
Theres hundreds of miles of beach for humans to use, why is it so important that the seals cant have the 100 yard stretch of beach...
I think people are just greedy and want someone to pick on who cant fight back...
V8S10Blazer 4 years ago
My intention wasn't to advocate for dual use. In my opinion, it's a gift to be able to go to Casa Beach and see glorious marine life. In so many other areas humans have blotted out species. Here's another place where they are trying the same thing. It's really the duty of the people that believe the Harbor seals have a right to their beach to be vocal and speak up or back to the bullies, on the seal's behalf.
Thanks for commenting on the video.
lorihope908 4 years ago
this was an informative video. i hope that this area can be preserved for the seals. they are wonderful to watch in person.
sugarpienorman 4 years ago
Uhm, what about those who support dual use? Listen, there's no denying Children's Pool was deeded to the city decades ago under the proviso that the beach always be kept open for the people of San Diego. A judge recently upheld this ruling.
powervideo 5 years ago