I just love watching Keating talk because you can tell from the way he speaks that he has such a passion and vision for where he wants to lead Australia. He always talks about how governments today have no "narrative," in their argument and you can see what he means.. He wanted more than anything for Australia to become an outward-looking, progressive, modern country. Labor's issues today stem from a lack of desire to make this happen.
God dammit... We're up shit creek with today's bunch aren't we? Try to watch Julia Gillard or frogman Tony Abbott just read the script of one of Keating's tirades and they'll probably get tongue tied.
"don't uh, don't uh, don't waste your uh time on, uh me, uh son." -Tony Abbott, who apparently thinks that pausing and saying "uh" makes you sound like a smart person.
John Howard was trying to roll out a plan very similar to the Bush administration and in all honest (tho not to the same extremity) the Nazi party. Dropping educational standards in the country, raising patriotic values (boat ppl and the importance we deal with them) invading Papua (Natural Gas and Indonesia based forces for reconnaissance of boarder invasion) Although I dont believe in god, i thank the proverbial that the Australian ppl had more insight then the Americans with their situation.
Ceasing investment in the US at that time would have been a massive diplomatic error, cmon man think. Its not just about the economic position of the US, besides hindsight is 20 20. Like I said I know about his term, I don't need your reminders especially with the dizzying spin that you put on them. Not interested in debating in this restricted character limit, if you really want to discuss it I would be happy to, just send me a PM, wont reply tonight, playing poker.
Ha, Ha, Ha you Labor goons cheering the biggest enemy of the Australian Worker because he and Hawk lowered tarrifs productive Industries moved off-shore. Resulting in the decimation of Labor's support by Blue Collar Woorkers. Now Labor can only win Government with Greens in Government- LABOR in the Dust bin of history- thankyou rusted on saps for voting Hawk and Keating for 13 years .
It would have been great if Howard never was so successful. Wed have avoided a lot of the problems we have today. Still the best country in the world though.
For christ sakes Paul... come back...!! You aren't that bloody old.
Labor has morphed into a horrific joke of a party. Embracing all the worst aspects of the left...meanwhile the nation is spinning towards the British nightmare scenario - being taxed into the dark ages.
i recall the hawke keating years as easy going small population cheap mortgages not much traffic on the roads the people were more friendly when lazarus took office in 96 the greedy conservatives were risen by power the people changed money money arrogant laws against working people the big end of town prospered at the expense of the workers the boom created a flux of high house prices rents skyrocketed the cost of living tripled whilst the wages were frozen today we are worse off thanks to jwh
Everything he says there is right, and yet 15 years on, Howard is more fondly remembered my most Australians than Keating.
Keating actually cared about the welfare of all Australians and had a vision for the future, where Howard just rode the gravy train of economic reform instigated by the previous government.
undeniable keating at his best lazarus the cane toad after winning office fed the rich for 11 yrs at the expense of ordinary workers like me with his workchoices and industrial relations that live to this day the mad monk is a part of the right wing anti worker party that one day if he wins office will do the same to workers like the canetoad did for 11 yrs today the ir laws are a destructive bomb waiting to go off workchoices will never die if the lnp gets in power we must stop these devils
@3;20 on, is the part that spells out Liberailroad policies.The costs to my household have ramped upwards and my payslip has effectively trended downwards during Howards "time".
Basically it took Howard all of his 13 years to undo the work Paul and Bob had done. Like Paul says we were just about to join the world when John hooked our wagon back to Bush's America and turned us around toward the past again. Come back Paul FFS!
holy crap....man i was probably still under 5when this guy was in this video i didnt give 2 shits abt this crap at that time....but how the fuck did john howard win the election from this guy......
We voted out this man for John Howard for 11 years. Put your head in shame Australia. Keating should be brought back if anything and take Australia forward! If only.
@Sasquatch279 Howard was in the right place at the right time. Hitler could have just about beat Keating in that election. The sniveling little tightfisted, dishonest, nasty, ignoramus waited & waited then went to an election with funny last minute deals in marginal seats and 'rock solid iron clad' promises of no GST, never ever ever! Sound familiar?
@AndyG1678 Ahhh if politics was like a football game...the real statistics are the policies that have made this country what it is. Keating's legacy is that he was a visionary who created policy for Superannuation, deregulation of the banks, enterprise bargaining, APEC, ending the tariff system and a recognition of the indigenous cultures. He even postulated GST in the 80's but was shot down by Hawke....what is Howard's legacy? The only nation other that the US to NOT sign Kyoto. Workchoices??
@DrAhemkuf For starters, if Howard was that bad, then why did the majority of Australians vote him in a record 4 times, I repeat 4 times. That's not a fluke. Second longest serving PM, behind the great Menzies, he left behind a very healthy business sector, zero government debt, a budget surplus, 11 and a half years of strong economic growth, the lowest unemployment record in 33 years, low interest rates (on record), inflation steady between 2-3%, introduction of gun laws, etc.
@AndyG1678 Keating - basically did diddly squat except for proactive policies for gays and lesbians. He even said: "Australian is the arse end of the earth", now that was our leader, yeah some leader???? He destroyed the Australian Film industry, hated sport and did the worst thing possible to families and his so-called love children - the working class families, he watched and let home loan interest rates go to 17%. He will always be called Mr 17%! But it was Labor of course! What do we expect?
@AndyG1678 In saying that I think he was just trying to make a point of how insignificant we were on a global scale. People in Australia forget really all we are good for is minerals. If we didn't have them we would be nothing special and would be a much poorer nation, left with just farming and tourism like NZ.
@AndyG1678 22% when Howard was Treasurer and the highest inflation in Australia's economic history! His major policies when in government? The GST (which will never, ever be part of coalition policy) Workchoices (which saw him suffer the ignominy of being thrown out of his own seat) and the war in Iraq. But that was Liberal of course. What do we expect?
@AndyG1678 "Flack jacket Johnny's" ridiculous gun laws were a knee jerk reaction to one mentally disturbed youth's gun rampage...now Australians are left unprotected in their own homes..Pfft!!!!
PK one of the best PM's aust has had, totally under-rated, im sure PK's govt made mistakes but i think howard's regime has severely stunted a fledging nations ( cpl of hundred years ppl) progress. im not too impressesd with the labour machine at the moment, it reminds me of a dinosaur for some reason but for fucks sake!..Abbot as PM come on...grow up Australia....Go Gillard but more importantly down with Abbot and right wing degressive fucks
@BahRumbah - Paul keating was good, but John Howard was the best PM in the history on this nation, the 2nd longest serving pm, he won four elections in a row, with low interest rates, low unemployment, labor debt paid in full, plus other important reforms. he lost his seat, but in history books he was simply the best of the best.
truly epic was this response, should have absolutely destroyed howards reputation and his ability to lead the country, unfortuntately their are too many dumbarses who dont understand politics that decided howard was better . Woke up to themselves after 10 yrs.
Now that little dweeb Howard is running around the US looking for another audience to listen to him because in Australia he wore us all out with his lies and hideous policies. But now we have to deal with his spawn Tony Abbott. Tony Abbott is the most dangerous aparachik this country has ever seen. We must fight like hell to keep him out of the office of Prime Minister. My God no. Not Tony Abbott.
lol that's why i keep looking back to this video...i wonder did paul keating congratulate john howard for kicking his ass in the election, or did he just mope about it?
Keating was razor sharp. Just listen to him speak and you can tell that no matter how busy he was, he was always reading and studying and learning new things.
And this from a man who never went to university... However my own degree turns out, I just hope that I'm even one-tenth as switched on as he's been throughout his entire life.
No wonder the bogans hated him. They don't particularly like university graduates, but they DESPISE people who are into all that 'book-learning' for FUN.
@sneakypete008 Well I am not intoxicated as I don't drink alcohol, although I dress relatively casually it's still somewhat semi-professional, and I don't go around bashing up random people on the street. So that rules out drunk, bogan, and thug. No matter, I love freedom of speech.
Though I was actually joking, I actually don't believe anyone is superior or better then anyone else. All I was saying was that the bogans in question could have...greater aspirations, and this could serve them well
@tfpmacheath Yes you are dead right. He was one in million. A very very intelligent man indeed. I was disgusted recently to read that "sookie baby Hawke" rubbished him for not having a university education. I would back Keating anyday.
@pungooer - Paul keating was good, but John Howard was the best PM in the history on this nation, the 2nd longest serving pm, he won four elections in a row, with low interest rates, low unemployment, labor debt paid in full, plus other important reforms. he lost his seat, but in history books he was simply the best of the best.
@tfpmacheath Hope your University studies went well..."YES" Keating was/is THE MAN. In regard to bogans I quote The Marquis de Sade, "The reasoning man who scorns the prejudices of simpletons, necessarily becomes the enemy of simpletons; he must expect as much and laugh at the inevitable".. I think Paul would agree with this sentiment!
I must admit I love listening to this speaker too, though there's something about his voice that makes him harder to take as seriously as most of the Liberal speakers which tend to go by the book.
I've said Keating was good but he unforunately presided over a recession which killed him politically.
Howard managed to stay in office for 11 years whether through good managment or a poor Labor opposition he still beat Labour in 4 elections. Now that is an achievement.
I could say the same thing about 2007 workchoices scare campaign, climate change and Iraq. Everything else was the same between the Liberal party and the Labor party (don't forget Rudd's me-too policy). Unemployment is going up, Labor's environment policy is weak and widely criticised. Only thing they've done right is pull out of Iraq but it's easy to pull-out now that Iraq has stabilised, doubt Labor would have turned down the US when requested for troops.
actually, he didn't really when the 98 election, Beazley won the count, just in the wrong seats...Howard was on the nose 2 years in, he had incredible luck in 2001 with 9/11.
Keating was only treasurer when the recession was taking place...
How many of the other Prime Ministers in that best Prime Minister vote lost their seat at an election. That's Howard's legacy. The Libs historically go missing in times of economic crisis. They just carp from the opposition benches with no clue and wait until the economy picks up after the hard work is done by the other side.
Keating was great but Howard was good too. All these comments wreak of political bias. They were both great PMs if anyone disagrees then they are effectively saying the Australian public can't choose good leaders.
Paul keating may have been an arrogant bastard, but i would prefer to have a non-slimy arrogant bastard as opposed to a fascist, opportunistic and pathetic cunt like howard.
May we remember that if it wasnt for the great former PM Keating our nation would be a far cry of what it is today. I recall the then liberals, led by that cockroach Peacock, their anti-asian sentiment and pro monarchy stance would have been a major setback for this wonderful nation that we live in today. Keating was one of the greatest forward thinking heads of stateever to have served Australia with distinction . If it wasnt for keating , our trade with China would probably be a JOKE !!!
no its not all his fault however his bumchum bush had a lot to do with it and like i said Howard rode keatings wave to success but when the waters receeded what did howard do ????? nothing ???? why ????? because he had no idea
so before you go insulting people make sure you got the facts right, you over capitalised, bold fonted underscored dickhead
you clearly implied it was howards fault for the current situation we are in yet then you go on to back up this argument by talking about how he just continued keatings "wave to success". what i dont understand is why some imbeciles like you think that just because a new government has been voted in means that they should immediately change things even if they are working efficiently...?
yeah real efficient lets just look at the majority whom voted the silly liitle desicated coconut out. They were working families whom were about to enter the slave market under Howards policies thats right his own pollicies , because when he didnt know how to continue keatings vision he started writing his own policies and where did that get him ? Voted out of office. howards best mate , George bush has now been voted worst president ever whats howards?
Umm howard has recently been voted as the best prime minister since WWII. he came in with 28% of the vote where as your anal buddy keating only receives a mere 9%. anything more?
yeah one more thing the last election was based on howards workplace reforms diminishing Australian standards so if he had been voted the best since world war 2 why did he suffer the worst defeat at the working class peoples voting opinion last year so much so that the people of Australia would have rather vote a cockroach in rather than your American ass licking desicated coconut. Anything else ?
ohh and your news poll is quite outdated check it out and it was also polled by a company which makes large donations to the libs in supporting a criminal tax system for the rich, anything more ?
Voted by who fuckhead? 2 million doll-bludging inbred bogan cunts? Or a large group of 60+ year old obsolete stuck-in-the-past old-fashioned turds? I want more info on this bullshit "vote" RIGHT!
sorry one more thing i dont know keating and dont wish too know keating so as far as anal buddies go, look at howards public life in office bending over and taking it up the arse from bush in the continuously. Man of steel phhhh my arse
@gor0356 Yeah he did... AFTER FOUR TERMS AS PM, you silly bugger. He was far from a tory, the guy was probably more working class than the both of us.
@adenowa3232 did he lead a conservative party, the answer is yes ,being a tory has nothing to do with your background rather your political leanings. And remember he did lose his seat no matter ho highly you regard him the fact remains he lost his seat
@irishgodfatherchris The term 'tory' for Australians has pejorative connotations which do relate to background, it does not just mean 'conservative politician'. Yes he lost his seat, everyone knows this. I don't feel that his losing his seat detracts from the success of his period in office. He had to lose eventually, and yes he fell hard in the final term. Howard used his final term to do things he knew would be unpopular, but he also knew they were good for Australia. Yes he lost his seat.
@adenowa3232 lets see, he set us up for the problems were in now, he willingly misled the Parliament when sending troops to Iraq (thats a crime by the way), remember children overboard scandal.
@irishgodfatherchris Look mate I know a lot about his term don't need your silly reminders, we are obviously not going to agree. Would you like me to list the litany of Rudd's failings, or Keating's for that matter? Even the most successful politicians can be attacked on certain issues, especially after 4 long terms.
@adenowa3232 the issues have nothing to do with this he failed to realise that the US was financially in trouble and should've ceased investment there not good for someone who had under Fraser been the Treasurer, he misled the Parliament you seem to be brushing that to one side he committed a crime, he misled the Australian people on the children overboard scandal which conveniently happened during the lead up to an election in 2007 he asserted he was right even though it was proven to be false
Our best PM ever? Questionable. Undeniable is the fact Howard probably believed your sentiment far too much and it cost him the job of PM, his seat and has left the Coalition is its current mess. And if we use past election results as a gauge, Howard may well have 'crushed' Keating, but by the same token Rudd certainly 'kicked Howard's arse'....
Best PM ever by what standards you braindead illiterate gutless coward SHEEP? Howard was an ineffective right-wing super-conservative racist blind-Bush-following chicken shit 500-year-old obsolete old-fashioned CUNT!!! A cunt who cared more about the wealthy & his precious fucking GST (which he swore how many times he'd NEVER introduce) than any real Aussies.
"hows it goin curly?" lmao, Keating always had the best sense of Humor in Parliament, especially the famous lip flapping towards the Liberals. That was great!
Suck a Fart Howard. Good God, where would Australia be now if Keating, the greatest genius in the world, hadn't lost the election because bogans thought he was arrogant.
Costello (really it was Howard, but let's pretend) had a chance to reform, and build something. Panadawn, he did exactly what you suggested (i.e. nothing) and Australia lies here completely unprepared for the ramifications as the global credit squeeze tightens. Compare that to Australia's situation during the 1997 Asian Currency Crisis, one month after Keating was punted for John Howard.
Your point is irrelevant. You said he should have spent his way to re-election. I only stated why he couldn't. You can't spend what you don't have. You don't realise that Howard did to Keating what Rudd did to Howard - he said he would be responsible and not spend too much money. He refused to give the same tax cuts keating promised, if keating spent money Howard would have called him irresponisble. That was the whole election strategy.
That's a joke right? Howard was hardly a responsible spender. The Iraq war is only more proof of this. His goal was to lower terrorist threats in Australia, yet he only made terror threats high as ever. Fact is Howard was never fit to clean Keatings shoes.
They were uncomfortable with Keating criticising Howard for Government spending, because that was Labor's biggest weak point at the time.
Rule number 1 in politics is you don't make people think about your weaknesses. He mentioned government spending at a time the government was 90 Billion in debt, and was borrowing 1 billion every month to fund Labor's government spending.
It was a real shambles, thats why they got very uncomfortable when he mentioned Howards spending under Fraser.
you know shit about politics and economy. The reserve bank sets the interest rates, not the PM. National economy can only follow global economy when it comes to recession and temporary fixes such as through the real estate in 2001 will only get you so far.
When Keating was treasurer the Reserve was not independent. Keating used to brag about having them in his back pocket. It was stupid for Howard to promise to keep rates low because he didn't control them, but Keating had quite a bit of control when he was treasurer.
The highest interest rate when Keating was in power was still 5% less than when Howard when treasurer. So when people say to me 'Keating gave us 17% interest rates' I take it as a compliment.
Haha, yes they were quoting that one during the election campaign, with no media wanting to correct it. Why don't you elaborate on the two different types of interest rates?
Or the Labor interest rates, which, when they are high, are an indication of how bad a shape the economy is in, and when they are low, are also an indication of how bad a shape the economy is in (ie now); and the Liberal interest rates, which, when they are low, show how good a condition the economy is in, and when they are high, show how good a condition the economy is in and they have to raise the interest rate to slow the economy down?
Every country has there nice guy, their messiah, the people's darling, for Australia it was Hawke. At the same time, every country has their Matyr, the guy that comes to do what needs to be done, does what's necessary for all, even when they are to stupid to realise it. They do what it takes, regardless of popularity or likely election out comes. That takes courage, and that was PK in a nutshell. Out and out courageous.
You Laborites are pathetic the way you dig up stuff from when Howard was a treasurer, when it had nothing to do with the track record of the Howard government. I guess all the stops had to be pulled out to finally get Howard out of office.
The resources boom does has provided an environment for exceptional terms of trade yes, but that's not the only reason why the economy is booming and has been growing for 18 years straight. Besides the GST and NoChoices, what economic reforms did the Howard government make?
keating floats the dollar, uncaps mortgage rates and lowers tariffs, which affects every single person in the country and all howard reforms is the waterfront (which would amount to 50000 jobs at the very most.)
but howards the great economic reformer that gave us prosperity for 11 years?
the liberal party should name itself the revisionist party.
Didn't Howard get the income tax free threshold from 5K to about 16k on his watch. I would prefer that and half the interest rates thanks. Labor stands for high taxing of the worker, high interest rates and debt. Oh not to mention corruption. They may have been the peoples party in 1908, but in 2008 no way!
I'm not a liberal voter by any stretch of the imagination, if anything I find Rudd and Beazley far too conservative for my liking so don't pass it off as bias, but if you watch carefully it appears like the heavy laughter at the end results from Howard making some witty retort across the floor which we can't hear because it wasn't at the dispatch box. Again I much prefer Keating to Howard, it's just an observation.
Keating fans who think he won this debate are kidding themselves.
His big finale was to suggest the Liberals were just being stingy when they criticise government spending. To suggest 'we can't be spending too much, because their spending was higher as a % of GDP'
Labor was 90 Billion in debt and borrowing 1 billion every month for current spending, and he had the nerve to call the Liberals stingy for criticising it?
The guy just didn't get it, and this speech proves it.
A key point which you whom dare I suggest are a tori voter, ignore is that Keating and Howard both overspent as treasurers, but when Keating left office he left a firm, world class infrastructure, when Howard left the treasury and Fraser office Australia the countries infrastructure was significantly worse than it had been at the dismissal of the whitlam government. Both failed to raise taxes where neccessary but whilst Keating made something good with the debt, treasurer Howard made a mess.
God look at Kim Beazley... that fat son of a politician really looks like your typical labourer doesn't he?
grassfell 2 months ago
Downer, whose wife was not even an Australian citizen at that stage.
CaptainNavman 2 months ago
I just love watching Keating talk because you can tell from the way he speaks that he has such a passion and vision for where he wants to lead Australia. He always talks about how governments today have no "narrative," in their argument and you can see what he means.. He wanted more than anything for Australia to become an outward-looking, progressive, modern country. Labor's issues today stem from a lack of desire to make this happen.
rococonroll 3 months ago 3
God dammit... We're up shit creek with today's bunch aren't we? Try to watch Julia Gillard or frogman Tony Abbott just read the script of one of Keating's tirades and they'll probably get tongue tied.
"don't uh, don't uh, don't waste your uh time on, uh me, uh son." -Tony Abbott, who apparently thinks that pausing and saying "uh" makes you sound like a smart person.
urprobablyright 3 months ago
i wish him and all his fuck bodies a painful death he got and had no class at all pedophiles
Ononetwothreego 4 months ago
THE MEMBER FOR BALLARAT! STFU!
paratrooper6 5 months ago
John Howard was trying to roll out a plan very similar to the Bush administration and in all honest (tho not to the same extremity) the Nazi party. Dropping educational standards in the country, raising patriotic values (boat ppl and the importance we deal with them) invading Papua (Natural Gas and Indonesia based forces for reconnaissance of boarder invasion) Although I dont believe in god, i thank the proverbial that the Australian ppl had more insight then the Americans with their situation.
pallentine 7 months ago
The ego speaks.
Enricom23 7 months ago
Ceasing investment in the US at that time would have been a massive diplomatic error, cmon man think. Its not just about the economic position of the US, besides hindsight is 20 20. Like I said I know about his term, I don't need your reminders especially with the dizzying spin that you put on them. Not interested in debating in this restricted character limit, if you really want to discuss it I would be happy to, just send me a PM, wont reply tonight, playing poker.
adenowa3232 10 months ago
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Ha, Ha, Ha you Labor goons cheering the biggest enemy of the Australian Worker because he and Hawk lowered tarrifs productive Industries moved off-shore. Resulting in the decimation of Labor's support by Blue Collar Woorkers. Now Labor can only win Government with Greens in Government- LABOR in the Dust bin of history- thankyou rusted on saps for voting Hawk and Keating for 13 years .
laborlosers 10 months ago
What a legend.
member805639 11 months ago
It would have been great if Howard never was so successful. Wed have avoided a lot of the problems we have today. Still the best country in the world though.
jayrod105 1 year ago
@jayrod105 I sure know there are alot of countries out there that would wish they had "John Howard" as their biggest problem. Be thankful.
4fear4hunger4pride 1 year ago
For christ sakes Paul... come back...!! You aren't that bloody old.
Labor has morphed into a horrific joke of a party. Embracing all the worst aspects of the left...meanwhile the nation is spinning towards the British nightmare scenario - being taxed into the dark ages.
ozgipsy 1 year ago 2
i recall the hawke keating years as easy going small population cheap mortgages not much traffic on the roads the people were more friendly when lazarus took office in 96 the greedy conservatives were risen by power the people changed money money arrogant laws against working people the big end of town prospered at the expense of the workers the boom created a flux of high house prices rents skyrocketed the cost of living tripled whilst the wages were frozen today we are worse off thanks to jwh
luneco100 1 year ago 6
Everything he says there is right, and yet 15 years on, Howard is more fondly remembered my most Australians than Keating.
Keating actually cared about the welfare of all Australians and had a vision for the future, where Howard just rode the gravy train of economic reform instigated by the previous government.
FCScorpio79 1 year ago 3
undeniable keating at his best lazarus the cane toad after winning office fed the rich for 11 yrs at the expense of ordinary workers like me with his workchoices and industrial relations that live to this day the mad monk is a part of the right wing anti worker party that one day if he wins office will do the same to workers like the canetoad did for 11 yrs today the ir laws are a destructive bomb waiting to go off workchoices will never die if the lnp gets in power we must stop these devils
luneco100 1 year ago 4
@3;20 on, is the part that spells out Liberailroad policies.The costs to my household have ramped upwards and my payslip has effectively trended downwards during Howards "time".
C906070 1 year ago
Basically it took Howard all of his 13 years to undo the work Paul and Bob had done. Like Paul says we were just about to join the world when John hooked our wagon back to Bush's America and turned us around toward the past again. Come back Paul FFS!
razorback0z 1 year ago
holy crap....man i was probably still under 5when this guy was in this video i didnt give 2 shits abt this crap at that time....but how the fuck did john howard win the election from this guy......
tiggakayz 1 year ago
DrAhemkuf. Couldn't have said it better myself bud, spot on.
EnarPilrith 1 year ago
We voted out this man for John Howard for 11 years. Put your head in shame Australia. Keating should be brought back if anything and take Australia forward! If only.
talkingpointless 1 year ago 6
@Sasquatch279 Howard was in the right place at the right time. Hitler could have just about beat Keating in that election. The sniveling little tightfisted, dishonest, nasty, ignoramus waited & waited then went to an election with funny last minute deals in marginal seats and 'rock solid iron clad' promises of no GST, never ever ever! Sound familiar?
ex1le444 1 year ago
what were Australians thinking to ever vote Howard in?
stonem001 1 year ago 6
ol darling lol!
gotmyfingerrscrowsed 1 year ago
Face it Keating! The Score: Keating - 1 Howard - 4
AndyG1678 1 year ago
@AndyG1678 Ahhh if politics was like a football game...the real statistics are the policies that have made this country what it is. Keating's legacy is that he was a visionary who created policy for Superannuation, deregulation of the banks, enterprise bargaining, APEC, ending the tariff system and a recognition of the indigenous cultures. He even postulated GST in the 80's but was shot down by Hawke....what is Howard's legacy? The only nation other that the US to NOT sign Kyoto. Workchoices??
DrAhemkuf 1 year ago 2
@DrAhemkuf For starters, if Howard was that bad, then why did the majority of Australians vote him in a record 4 times, I repeat 4 times. That's not a fluke. Second longest serving PM, behind the great Menzies, he left behind a very healthy business sector, zero government debt, a budget surplus, 11 and a half years of strong economic growth, the lowest unemployment record in 33 years, low interest rates (on record), inflation steady between 2-3%, introduction of gun laws, etc.
AndyG1678 1 year ago
@AndyG1678 Keating - basically did diddly squat except for proactive policies for gays and lesbians. He even said: "Australian is the arse end of the earth", now that was our leader, yeah some leader???? He destroyed the Australian Film industry, hated sport and did the worst thing possible to families and his so-called love children - the working class families, he watched and let home loan interest rates go to 17%. He will always be called Mr 17%! But it was Labor of course! What do we expect?
AndyG1678 1 year ago
@AndyG1678 In saying that I think he was just trying to make a point of how insignificant we were on a global scale. People in Australia forget really all we are good for is minerals. If we didn't have them we would be nothing special and would be a much poorer nation, left with just farming and tourism like NZ.
gotmyfingerrscrowsed 1 year ago
@AndyG1678 22% when Howard was Treasurer and the highest inflation in Australia's economic history! His major policies when in government? The GST (which will never, ever be part of coalition policy) Workchoices (which saw him suffer the ignominy of being thrown out of his own seat) and the war in Iraq. But that was Liberal of course. What do we expect?
Jujufucka 1 year ago
@AndyG1678
howard technically lost the '98 election,only because of the distorted electorate populations he got back in.
for 9 years he dint have a majority in the senate,so he couldnt get workchoices through,if he did,he would have been a one term wonder.
lowest interest rates on record occured under kevin rudd 3%
low inflation? did you check your grocery prices? they skyrocketed under howard. conservative politics doesnt work
heathirving 1 year ago
@AndyG1678 "Flack jacket Johnny's" ridiculous gun laws were a knee jerk reaction to one mentally disturbed youth's gun rampage...now Australians are left unprotected in their own homes..Pfft!!!!
hargra123 1 year ago
PK one of the best PM's aust has had, totally under-rated, im sure PK's govt made mistakes but i think howard's regime has severely stunted a fledging nations ( cpl of hundred years ppl) progress. im not too impressesd with the labour machine at the moment, it reminds me of a dinosaur for some reason but for fucks sake!..Abbot as PM come on...grow up Australia....Go Gillard but more importantly down with Abbot and right wing degressive fucks
BahRumbah 1 year ago 5
@BahRumbah - Paul keating was good, but John Howard was the best PM in the history on this nation, the 2nd longest serving pm, he won four elections in a row, with low interest rates, low unemployment, labor debt paid in full, plus other important reforms. he lost his seat, but in history books he was simply the best of the best.
TheVictor2512 1 year ago
Legend........
BahRumbah 1 year ago 2
That guy is tough.
McHunt7 1 year ago
3:36.... sly little prick there
wnxsystem 1 year ago
truly epic was this response, should have absolutely destroyed howards reputation and his ability to lead the country, unfortuntately their are too many dumbarses who dont understand politics that decided howard was better . Woke up to themselves after 10 yrs.
raff23 1 year ago
Now that little dweeb Howard is running around the US looking for another audience to listen to him because in Australia he wore us all out with his lies and hideous policies. But now we have to deal with his spawn Tony Abbott. Tony Abbott is the most dangerous aparachik this country has ever seen. We must fight like hell to keep him out of the office of Prime Minister. My God no. Not Tony Abbott.
AntipodeanStar 1 year ago 2
Paul Keating. Phew. He just doesn't stop. Don't stop til you get enough.
JermirCaesar 1 year ago
CD-ROM and information highway.
duke222222 1 year ago
How the fuck did he lose to that fool, John Howard.
llMiCKll 1 year ago 2
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Good riddance to you Keating, you were an arrogant prick
wigram 1 year ago
i love it " dont waste your time on me son , i know you "
thatsit07 2 years ago 4
lol that's why i keep looking back to this video...i wonder did paul keating congratulate john howard for kicking his ass in the election, or did he just mope about it?
Stephen19852009 2 years ago
@Stephen19852009 And I wonder if that small-minded do nothing turd Howard moped about losing his seat to Mckew and the Rudd government
plnckrsn 1 year ago
Keating was foretelling what a Howard government would be like. Listen to what Keating was saying and remember what Howard did
001AussieMale 2 years ago 20
too bloody right mate !!
brankog7 2 years ago 2
It must have been great to be an MP during the Keating era. No matter what side you were on, you would never have been bored. He was just brilliant!
SagansMoon 2 years ago 9
Keating was razor sharp. Just listen to him speak and you can tell that no matter how busy he was, he was always reading and studying and learning new things.
And this from a man who never went to university... However my own degree turns out, I just hope that I'm even one-tenth as switched on as he's been throughout his entire life.
No wonder the bogans hated him. They don't particularly like university graduates, but they DESPISE people who are into all that 'book-learning' for FUN.
tfpmacheath 2 years ago 101
@tfpmacheath Maybe those bogans should try going to school and getting a degree.
Stephen19852009 1 year ago
@Stephen19852009 and you are superior because you have a degree??
1dschamp 1 year ago
@1dschamp In comparison to a drunk bogan thug, certainly.
Stephen19852009 1 year ago
@Stephen19852009 YOU CANT TALK YA FUCKING BRAINDEAD CUNT
sneakypete008 1 year ago
@sneakypete008 Well I am not intoxicated as I don't drink alcohol, although I dress relatively casually it's still somewhat semi-professional, and I don't go around bashing up random people on the street. So that rules out drunk, bogan, and thug. No matter, I love freedom of speech.
Though I was actually joking, I actually don't believe anyone is superior or better then anyone else. All I was saying was that the bogans in question could have...greater aspirations, and this could serve them well
Stephen19852009 1 year ago
@tfpmacheath Yes you are dead right. He was one in million. A very very intelligent man indeed. I was disgusted recently to read that "sookie baby Hawke" rubbished him for not having a university education. I would back Keating anyday.
pungooer 1 year ago
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@pungooer - Paul keating was good, but John Howard was the best PM in the history on this nation, the 2nd longest serving pm, he won four elections in a row, with low interest rates, low unemployment, labor debt paid in full, plus other important reforms. he lost his seat, but in history books he was simply the best of the best.
TheVictor2512 1 year ago
@tfpmacheath Hope your University studies went well..."YES" Keating was/is THE MAN. In regard to bogans I quote The Marquis de Sade, "The reasoning man who scorns the prejudices of simpletons, necessarily becomes the enemy of simpletons; he must expect as much and laugh at the inevitable".. I think Paul would agree with this sentiment!
hargra123 1 year ago
love the speaker's nasal voice! lol!
MichaelJackson2 2 years ago
Julia Gillard has a case of that now!
jeremytravers1 2 years ago
I must admit I love listening to this speaker too, though there's something about his voice that makes him harder to take as seriously as most of the Liberal speakers which tend to go by the book.
Stephen19852009 2 years ago
Are you serious....... You prefer fer fer fer johnny speaking?
thatsit07 2 years ago
huh? i am not talking about the SPEAKER not the PM's
Stephen19852009 2 years ago
ahha look at all you pro-labor arse lickers.
I've said Keating was good but he unforunately presided over a recession which killed him politically.
Howard managed to stay in office for 11 years whether through good managment or a poor Labor opposition he still beat Labour in 4 elections. Now that is an achievement.
PLooBzor 2 years ago
he won the 2001 by luck even by his own party's admission as he used scare tactics ie. September 11th, War in Afghanistan and Children overboard
irishgodfatherchris 2 years ago 4
I could say the same thing about 2007 workchoices scare campaign, climate change and Iraq. Everything else was the same between the Liberal party and the Labor party (don't forget Rudd's me-too policy). Unemployment is going up, Labor's environment policy is weak and widely criticised. Only thing they've done right is pull out of Iraq but it's easy to pull-out now that Iraq has stabilised, doubt Labor would have turned down the US when requested for troops.
PLooBzor 2 years ago
and Keating and Hawke beat the Liberals in 5 straight elections. Now THAT'S an achievment.
moonfolk999 2 years ago 3
actually, he didn't really when the 98 election, Beazley won the count, just in the wrong seats...Howard was on the nose 2 years in, he had incredible luck in 2001 with 9/11.
Keating was only treasurer when the recession was taking place...
skycruiser777 2 years ago
How many of the other Prime Ministers in that best Prime Minister vote lost their seat at an election. That's Howard's legacy. The Libs historically go missing in times of economic crisis. They just carp from the opposition benches with no clue and wait until the economy picks up after the hard work is done by the other side.
selkevh 2 years ago
The little desiccated coconut just got OWNED
jampt1989 2 years ago 5
Keating was great but Howard was good too. All these comments wreak of political bias. They were both great PMs if anyone disagrees then they are effectively saying the Australian public can't choose good leaders.
PLooBzor 2 years ago
howard was fucking atrocious.
Paul keating may have been an arrogant bastard, but i would prefer to have a non-slimy arrogant bastard as opposed to a fascist, opportunistic and pathetic cunt like howard.
synkronyk 2 years ago 3
why didnt we listen to keating.. why did we get howard???!!!
justpostit 2 years ago
SWITCHITTER
camerondavo 2 years ago
Howard - USED KEATINGs ideas.
CarNNNN 2 years ago 5
May we remember that if it wasnt for the great former PM Keating our nation would be a far cry of what it is today. I recall the then liberals, led by that cockroach Peacock, their anti-asian sentiment and pro monarchy stance would have been a major setback for this wonderful nation that we live in today. Keating was one of the greatest forward thinking heads of stateever to have served Australia with distinction . If it wasnt for keating , our trade with China would probably be a JOKE !!!
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nyjetf18 2 years ago 4
To those whom think Howard was this countries best PM just think you are now living in the aftermath of his rule..... enjoy
vinygee 2 years ago 2
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yea its howards fault there is a world economic crisis. pull your head in u moron
benji84401 2 years ago
no its not all his fault however his bumchum bush had a lot to do with it and like i said Howard rode keatings wave to success but when the waters receeded what did howard do ????? nothing ???? why ????? because he had no idea
so before you go insulting people make sure you got the facts right, you over capitalised, bold fonted underscored dickhead
vinygee 2 years ago
u have evidenced yourself as a moron.
you clearly implied it was howards fault for the current situation we are in yet then you go on to back up this argument by talking about how he just continued keatings "wave to success". what i dont understand is why some imbeciles like you think that just because a new government has been voted in means that they should immediately change things even if they are working efficiently...?
benji84401 2 years ago
efficiently...? 23% GDP at howards best ?
yeah real efficient lets just look at the majority whom voted the silly liitle desicated coconut out. They were working families whom were about to enter the slave market under Howards policies thats right his own pollicies , because when he didnt know how to continue keatings vision he started writing his own policies and where did that get him ? Voted out of office. howards best mate , George bush has now been voted worst president ever whats howards?
vinygee 2 years ago
Umm howard has recently been voted as the best prime minister since WWII. he came in with 28% of the vote where as your anal buddy keating only receives a mere 9%. anything more?
benji84401 2 years ago
yeah one more thing the last election was based on howards workplace reforms diminishing Australian standards so if he had been voted the best since world war 2 why did he suffer the worst defeat at the working class peoples voting opinion last year so much so that the people of Australia would have rather vote a cockroach in rather than your American ass licking desicated coconut. Anything else ?
vinygee 2 years ago
ohh and your news poll is quite outdated check it out and it was also polled by a company which makes large donations to the libs in supporting a criminal tax system for the rich, anything more ?
vinygee 2 years ago
Voted by who fuckhead? 2 million doll-bludging inbred bogan cunts? Or a large group of 60+ year old obsolete stuck-in-the-past old-fashioned turds? I want more info on this bullshit "vote" RIGHT!
JohnoEAL 2 years ago
sorry one more thing i dont know keating and dont wish too know keating so as far as anal buddies go, look at howards public life in office bending over and taking it up the arse from bush in the continuously. Man of steel phhhh my arse
vinygee 2 years ago
I love his question at 2:37
I just wish that the answer wasn't "plenty, Australia is full of hoodwinked rednecks"
scoobajunky 2 years ago
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Howard got the last laugh over Keating!
newsnational 3 years ago
And the Rat lost his own seat of Bennalong! You sniverlling tory twat.
gor0356 3 years ago 27
@gor0356 Yeah he did... AFTER FOUR TERMS AS PM, you silly bugger. He was far from a tory, the guy was probably more working class than the both of us.
adenowa3232 1 year ago
@adenowa3232 did he lead a conservative party, the answer is yes ,being a tory has nothing to do with your background rather your political leanings. And remember he did lose his seat no matter ho highly you regard him the fact remains he lost his seat
irishgodfatherchris 10 months ago
@irishgodfatherchris The term 'tory' for Australians has pejorative connotations which do relate to background, it does not just mean 'conservative politician'. Yes he lost his seat, everyone knows this. I don't feel that his losing his seat detracts from the success of his period in office. He had to lose eventually, and yes he fell hard in the final term. Howard used his final term to do things he knew would be unpopular, but he also knew they were good for Australia. Yes he lost his seat.
adenowa3232 10 months ago
@adenowa3232 lets see, he set us up for the problems were in now, he willingly misled the Parliament when sending troops to Iraq (thats a crime by the way), remember children overboard scandal.
irishgodfatherchris 10 months ago
@irishgodfatherchris Look mate I know a lot about his term don't need your silly reminders, we are obviously not going to agree. Would you like me to list the litany of Rudd's failings, or Keating's for that matter? Even the most successful politicians can be attacked on certain issues, especially after 4 long terms.
adenowa3232 10 months ago
@adenowa3232 the issues have nothing to do with this he failed to realise that the US was financially in trouble and should've ceased investment there not good for someone who had under Fraser been the Treasurer, he misled the Parliament you seem to be brushing that to one side he committed a crime, he misled the Australian people on the children overboard scandal which conveniently happened during the lead up to an election in 2007 he asserted he was right even though it was proven to be false
irishgodfatherchris 10 months ago
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Howard crushed Keating and went on to be our best PM ever.
11111FALCON11111 3 years ago
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Hear, Hear!
bottledlightning 3 years ago
Our best PM ever? Questionable. Undeniable is the fact Howard probably believed your sentiment far too much and it cost him the job of PM, his seat and has left the Coalition is its current mess. And if we use past election results as a gauge, Howard may well have 'crushed' Keating, but by the same token Rudd certainly 'kicked Howard's arse'....
verve71 2 years ago 3
Best PM ever by what standards you braindead illiterate gutless coward SHEEP? Howard was an ineffective right-wing super-conservative racist blind-Bush-following chicken shit 500-year-old obsolete old-fashioned CUNT!!! A cunt who cared more about the wealthy & his precious fucking GST (which he swore how many times he'd NEVER introduce) than any real Aussies.
FUCK
YOU
JohnoEAL 2 years ago
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Now now you little bogan rodent. I did not write the history books only the facts.
11111FALCON11111 2 years ago
That's interesting because I didn't see one fact in your original post.... WHY was Howard the "our best PM ever"???
JohnoEAL 2 years ago
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RUDDS A DUDD
ruddsadudd 3 years ago
"hows it goin curly?" lmao, Keating always had the best sense of Humor in Parliament, especially the famous lip flapping towards the Liberals. That was great!
ihateskirts 3 years ago 4
This is the best speach I have heard.
tadpole1971 3 years ago
ahahahahahahahaa, oh you got owned johnny.
newam5qi 3 years ago
Suck a Fart Howard. Good God, where would Australia be now if Keating, the greatest genius in the world, hadn't lost the election because bogans thought he was arrogant.
BoldBenHall 3 years ago 3
I think it was about that time that legislation was enacted to separate the RBA from Government.
It was "the recession we had to have" and the threat of a banana republic that hastened the separation.
Bob11111111111 3 years ago
Keating was hilarious, wish we had more like him.
reimeo 3 years ago 5
that was a keating SMACKDOWN on howard. What a ledgend...
sharpz123 3 years ago 7
i like this paul keating bloke very passionate isnt he.
antossss 3 years ago 4
it over for the old bald parrot tell him to piss off down a sewerage line
judyhughes 3 years ago
I wish Paul Keating were running for the US presidency. GODDAMN that would be fun.
boscoruby 3 years ago
pk wanted the gst but bob knocked it back after the tax summit so paul then decides to oppose it so he's just a fucking nothing
tmg4evr 3 years ago
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PAUL KEATING JUST FUCK OFF AND DIE
SCHWANZKUSS 3 years ago
ah a young liberal i see..
n4859 3 years ago
he was right on the money
sloaney33 3 years ago
"It is never necessary to raise taxes" panadawn?
Costello (really it was Howard, but let's pretend) had a chance to reform, and build something. Panadawn, he did exactly what you suggested (i.e. nothing) and Australia lies here completely unprepared for the ramifications as the global credit squeeze tightens. Compare that to Australia's situation during the 1997 Asian Currency Crisis, one month after Keating was punted for John Howard.
stagman21 3 years ago
The Asian economic crisis didn't come one month after Keating was punted for Howard. It was about one and a half years later.
germanicelt 3 years ago
Keating goonrush
DunwichHorror333 3 years ago
All bile and insults, and still his fans don't understand why middle Australia didn't like him.
Panadawn 3 years ago
This isn't Question Time, what is it?
shazzatpm 3 years ago
Keating's reply to Howard's censure motion.
cfm343 3 years ago 2
Paul Keating, possibly our best Prime Minister. I bet he regrets not going on a spending spree like the Liberals did to win votes.
Ikazi 3 years ago
He didn't have money for a spending spree, the country was 90 Billion in debt.
Panadawn 3 years ago
Given it was a world wide recession, he did fairly well. The United States lost a lot more par GDP per capita.
Ikazi 3 years ago
Your point is irrelevant. You said he should have spent his way to re-election. I only stated why he couldn't. You can't spend what you don't have. You don't realise that Howard did to Keating what Rudd did to Howard - he said he would be responsible and not spend too much money. He refused to give the same tax cuts keating promised, if keating spent money Howard would have called him irresponisble. That was the whole election strategy.
Panadawn 3 years ago
That's a joke right? Howard was hardly a responsible spender. The Iraq war is only more proof of this. His goal was to lower terrorist threats in Australia, yet he only made terror threats high as ever. Fact is Howard was never fit to clean Keatings shoes.
Ikazi 3 years ago 3
What's up with the two guys in the second row moving away at 4:51 when PK mentions government spending?
aardbeias 3 years ago
They were uncomfortable with Keating criticising Howard for Government spending, because that was Labor's biggest weak point at the time.
Rule number 1 in politics is you don't make people think about your weaknesses. He mentioned government spending at a time the government was 90 Billion in debt, and was borrowing 1 billion every month to fund Labor's government spending.
It was a real shambles, thats why they got very uncomfortable when he mentioned Howards spending under Fraser.
Panadawn 3 years ago
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Who gave us the worst recession in 60 years?? PAUL KEATING
Who gave us the highest unemployment since the great depression?? PAUL KEATING
Who gave us the highest foreign debt since great depression?? PAUL KEATING
Who gave us the highest sustained interest rates since great depression?? PAUL KEATING
Who gave us the record levels of bankruptcies?? PAUL KEATING
mctroyboy 3 years ago
you know shit about politics and economy. The reserve bank sets the interest rates, not the PM. National economy can only follow global economy when it comes to recession and temporary fixes such as through the real estate in 2001 will only get you so far.
pivkan 3 years ago 4
When Keating was treasurer the Reserve was not independent. Keating used to brag about having them in his back pocket. It was stupid for Howard to promise to keep rates low because he didn't control them, but Keating had quite a bit of control when he was treasurer.
Panadawn 3 years ago
So when interest rates soared under Keating, he was in control of the RBA, as he said. Ah well at least he was honest then that it was his fault.
germanicelt 3 years ago
the asian economic crisis came later yes , but he still had to deal with the fallout of the early 90's global recession and black monday
thievinbrudda 3 years ago
The highest interest rate when Keating was in power was still 5% less than when Howard when treasurer. So when people say to me 'Keating gave us 17% interest rates' I take it as a compliment.
vinnyd91 3 years ago 4
Haha, yes they were quoting that one during the election campaign, with no media wanting to correct it. Why don't you elaborate on the two different types of interest rates?
germanicelt 3 years ago
The real and nominal interest rates?
Or the Labor interest rates, which, when they are high, are an indication of how bad a shape the economy is in, and when they are low, are also an indication of how bad a shape the economy is in (ie now); and the Liberal interest rates, which, when they are low, show how good a condition the economy is in, and when they are high, show how good a condition the economy is in and they have to raise the interest rate to slow the economy down?
vinnyd91 3 years ago
as you said interest rates are set by the RBA.
the prime minister DOES NOT control the RBA!
where did you get this idea from?
nww1986 3 years ago
True, but Keating himself said back then that he had the RBA governor in his back pocket. Maybe he was just big noting himself.
germanicelt 3 years ago
in theory they are set by the RBA but in the real world the government makes them do wat ever they want.
yuddda 3 years ago
costello made the RBA independent, back in keatings day, the government essentially set interest rates
hugsydids 3 years ago
er, what?
keating made no secret of the fact that he despised treasury. do you think he would despise it if he was making its decisions for the RBA?
deregulation of the banks was a hawke/keating reform. well basically it was keating's idea and hawke was the salesman...
scoobajunky 2 years ago
You obviously don't know much about politics. You remind me of the Libs shouting 'Labour out' in 92...then getting smashed.
danichols49 3 years ago
He certainly did let them have it.
It must have been like a wave of dry sarcasm blasting across the table at the front benchers.
BerryJoy 3 years ago
Every country has there nice guy, their messiah, the people's darling, for Australia it was Hawke. At the same time, every country has their Matyr, the guy that comes to do what needs to be done, does what's necessary for all, even when they are to stupid to realise it. They do what it takes, regardless of popularity or likely election out comes. That takes courage, and that was PK in a nutshell. Out and out courageous.
McFrosty2014 3 years ago 9
whitlam too
campbellu2002 3 years ago 2
look at big fat kim. he looks like jabba the hut
goblues2008 3 years ago
Well I guess JH had the last laugh...
stu22aus 4 years ago
and unfortunately we are all the worse for it.
Treasurer with 22% interest rates!
t3y22610 4 years ago 4
You Laborites are pathetic the way you dig up stuff from when Howard was a treasurer, when it had nothing to do with the track record of the Howard government. I guess all the stops had to be pulled out to finally get Howard out of office.
germanicelt 3 years ago
No, it shows that Howard did NOT do the hard yards for the economy...Keating and Hawke did
jampt1989 3 years ago
Yep they stuffed things up alright. Funny, I thought it was the resources boom. How did Hawke/Keating pull that one off?
germanicelt 3 years ago
The resources boom does has provided an environment for exceptional terms of trade yes, but that's not the only reason why the economy is booming and has been growing for 18 years straight. Besides the GST and NoChoices, what economic reforms did the Howard government make?
jampt1989 3 years ago
Waterfront.
germanicelt 3 years ago
is that all ?
some reform
keating floats the dollar, uncaps mortgage rates and lowers tariffs, which affects every single person in the country and all howard reforms is the waterfront (which would amount to 50000 jobs at the very most.)
but howards the great economic reformer that gave us prosperity for 11 years?
the liberal party should name itself the revisionist party.
thievinbrudda 3 years ago
Didn't Howard get the income tax free threshold from 5K to about 16k on his watch. I would prefer that and half the interest rates thanks. Labor stands for high taxing of the worker, high interest rates and debt. Oh not to mention corruption. They may have been the peoples party in 1908, but in 2008 no way!
germanicelt 3 years ago
okay high interest rate hey?
when the howard-fraser government left office mortgage rates where 13%
when keating left office they were 7.53%
OH LOOK ITS LIBERAL MYTHOLOGY.
the tax free threshold is not at 16k where the fuck did you get that idea.
its still $6000
then up to 17k you still get taxed but it is lower tax rate.
thievinbrudda 3 years ago
Keating was on the campaign trail that saw Howard lose the election and his own seat.
I'd say Keating had the last laugh.
Timeshift99 3 years ago 3
Keating had the last laugh .
beautiful comment
71taurian 3 years ago 4
I'm not a liberal voter by any stretch of the imagination, if anything I find Rudd and Beazley far too conservative for my liking so don't pass it off as bias, but if you watch carefully it appears like the heavy laughter at the end results from Howard making some witty retort across the floor which we can't hear because it wasn't at the dispatch box. Again I much prefer Keating to Howard, it's just an observation.
cleaverwielder 3 years ago 2
Keating fans who think he won this debate are kidding themselves.
His big finale was to suggest the Liberals were just being stingy when they criticise government spending. To suggest 'we can't be spending too much, because their spending was higher as a % of GDP'
Labor was 90 Billion in debt and borrowing 1 billion every month for current spending, and he had the nerve to call the Liberals stingy for criticising it?
The guy just didn't get it, and this speech proves it.
Panadawn 3 years ago
A key point which you whom dare I suggest are a tori voter, ignore is that Keating and Howard both overspent as treasurers, but when Keating left office he left a firm, world class infrastructure, when Howard left the treasury and Fraser office Australia the countries infrastructure was significantly worse than it had been at the dismissal of the whitlam government. Both failed to raise taxes where neccessary but whilst Keating made something good with the debt, treasurer Howard made a mess.
cleaverwielder 3 years ago
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It is never necessary to raise taxes.
You should always cut spending, which is what Costello did when he got in, to the chagrin of socialists everywhere.
Panadawn 3 years ago