Luciano Berio, Sequenza IV, for piano (part 1)

[Telogismick]

Hello, I'm no expert on this subject so I have curiosity to know if this piece is written in a serial system of composition or is written in a tonal system. thanks

[RudolfMing]

Maybe it's music, but not for my ears...

[jocydeoliveira]

Sequenza IV was written to Jocy de Oliveira . Please correct the right name

[NevinJarek]

sigh

[fja6]

Please: Who's the pianist?

[GreggaryPeccary]

@fja6 David Arden

[earlymusicof]

O. Messiaen points out: Every piece of music is written in a mode (even though it might not have a specified key). The mode is defined by the notes chosen and the rhythm adopted. There is virtually no piece of music than can be completely pan-tonal (atonal) because, from a practical standpoint, it's impossible to have an absolutely even distribution of the twelve tones. Even if all tones are evenly distributed through a piece, certain tones would predominate in parts.

[sologuitardeath]

@earlymusicof That's one of the most informative comments posted on youtube. Thank you kindly.

[alecemusic]

@earlymusicof Never heard of Twelve-tone technique?

[TaterGumfries]

@earlymusicof Once you choose your tones from a set that don't got no near sonorities, that problem goes away. 18 tet or 11 tet, for instance.

[Superape613]

@earlymusicof clearly someone hasn't heard of Anton Webern or Arnold Schoenberg.

[mekore]

@earlymusicof thats a simple fact, no need to cite messiaen

[thimkthimk]

@earlymusicof where is that information from?

[AfroDeezeeYak]

@earlymusicof When all factors other than harmony are omitted, sure.

When things like rhythm, register, dynamics, ect are manipulated in ways unconventional to pre-20th century music, harmony loses its power to convey tonality (although 'tonic' and 'dominantic' ideas can still be expressed).

[nikiboy86]

this is good!

who's playing?

[disturbedeleven]

There are some very interesting things happening in the first few bars; I suspect that originaly he began by playing the notes with his eyes open. As the piece progresses, he closes his eyes and begins to play random notes, some spaced close together, others farther apart. As the random banging on keys developes, he quickens the pace that his fingers are moving, although in no particular pattern that makes his "music" sound good to many peoplewho listen to it or attempt to "play" it.

[Crufflespugchen]

Ha. Pretty much agree.

[CaptainBluebear08]

@Crufflespugchen

rofl

[theretheyare65]

Is your point music is only real music when someone prescribed it by jotting notes on notation paper?

[MarkGrindell]

There are some very interesting things happening in the first few bars; I suspect that there is a very obvious bitonal progression in two keys spaced a minor third apart. The very FIRST two chords, when you look at them this way, are nothing other than a dominant to tonic cadence.

While it quickly gets very much more complex, to me (at least) it has a very strong tonal feel.

Of course, if I could actually play this beyond the first page, I could write serious cheques!

[mod07]

@MarkGrindell What the fuck!!!! he is postserialist.